I can understand adding the celebration of the birth of the fulfillment of the Hebrew Prophets with pagan superstition at THAT time is for after all still a celebration - believers in Christ Jesus at that time as in of today are not participating in a pagan ANYTHING ( a little context and common sense please) - Christianity was not legal until after the year 300 AD - The opposite of Jew is not Christian - the opposite of Jew is Gentile - there were no multitudes of Gentiles that had any regard for Israel nor their Messiah till after the New Testament book of Acts - I'm sure the Rabbi Saul stating that both groups were made One New Man in Christ Jesus was in itself a great controversy in the first century - I can assure you those who make this an issue have serious flaws in their understanding of other scriptural Truth and reality
The shocking truth They weren't Wiseman, they were sorcerer's The Greek word mágoi can mean "sorcerer," "magician," "wizard," "oriental astronomer or scientist," or "wise man".
You're missing the point that even if 'magi' means "sorcerer, wizard, etc," they were still *Wiser* than everyone in Judea because they knew how and when to follow a star to the very doorstep of The King born in a different country and not even known how to find amongst His own countrymen. Do you even know where in the sky that star was, what year, what time of year, and how long it shone???
The School of the Magi was started by Daniel after Babylon was captured by Cyrus the Great. It continued after the birth of Christ. They studied everything that could possibly relate to the coming of Christ
It's the opposite - Messiah was born in the Spring, and John the baptist in the Autumn. Also, why doesn't anyone ever ask why there's a two-year discrepency concerning Messiah's birth year?
I can understand early Christians celebrating the birth of Jesus at a time when everyone else was celebrating tho in superstition of more than one false god - we are still in this world NOT OF THIS WORLD and there's absolutely no indication that they were compromised or we are compromised today - the opposite of Jew is not a Christian - the opposite of Jew is Gentile - I'm sure there was great controversy when the Rabbi Saul wrote in the first century that God made both groups One New Man in Christ Jesus - actually in the book of Acts when Paul went back to Jerusalem to confer with James Jesus's brother Peter and John concerning such things as circumcision and in the law of Moses - the English translation is "no small dispute" -(the word in Greek was KNOCK DOWN DRAG OUT (for all you gnat strainers and camel swallowers)
@@auh2o148 winter The registration. Shortly before Jesus was born, Caesar Augustus issued a decree ordering “all the inhabited earth to be registered.” Everyone had to register in “his own city,” which might have required a journey of a week or more. (Luke 2:1-3) That order-probably made to support taxation and military conscription-would have been unpopular at any time of year, but it is unlikely that Augustus would have provoked his subjects further by forcing many of them to make long trips during the cold winter. The sheep. Shepherds were “living out of doors and keeping watches in the night over their flocks.” (Luke 2:8) The book Daily Life in the Time of Jesus notes that flocks lived in the open air from “the week before the Passover [late March]” through mid-November. It then adds: “They passed the winter under cover; and from this alone it may be seen that the traditional date for Christmas, in the winter, is unlikely to be right, since the Gospel says that the shepherds were in the fields.” In early fall We can estimate when Jesus was born by counting backward from his death on Passover, Nisan 14 in the spring of the year 33 C.E. (John 19:14-16) Jesus was about 30 years old when he began his three-and-a-half-year ministry, so he was born in the early fall of 2 B.C.E.-Luke 3:23.
Daniel predicts the coming of the anointed one in 483 years not 490 years after the decree
I can understand adding the celebration of the birth of the fulfillment of the Hebrew Prophets with pagan superstition at THAT time is for after all still a celebration - believers in Christ Jesus at that time as in of today are not participating in a pagan ANYTHING ( a little context and common sense please) - Christianity was not legal until after the year 300 AD - The opposite of Jew is not Christian - the opposite of Jew is Gentile - there were no multitudes of Gentiles that had any regard for Israel nor their Messiah till after the New Testament book of Acts - I'm sure the Rabbi Saul stating that both groups were made One New Man in Christ Jesus was in itself a great controversy in the first century - I can assure you those who make this an issue have serious flaws in their understanding of other scriptural Truth and reality
The shocking truth
They weren't Wiseman, they were sorcerer's
The Greek word mágoi can mean "sorcerer," "magician," "wizard," "oriental astronomer or scientist," or "wise man".
Hardly. Wise men refers to them being studious.
@anilkanda611 depends on what translation you are using. They are referred to as Magi in many translations
You're missing the point that even if 'magi' means "sorcerer, wizard, etc," they were still *Wiser* than everyone in Judea because they knew how and when to follow a star to the very doorstep of The King born in a different country and not even known how to find amongst His own countrymen. Do you even know where in the sky that star was, what year, what time of year, and how long it shone???
The School of the Magi was started by Daniel after Babylon was captured by Cyrus the Great. It continued after the birth of Christ. They studied everything that could possibly relate to the coming of Christ
They were astrologers following a light that Satan put there
It's the opposite - Messiah was born in the Spring, and John the baptist in the Autumn. Also, why doesn't anyone ever ask why there's a two-year discrepency concerning Messiah's birth year?
I can understand early Christians celebrating the birth of Jesus at a time when everyone else was celebrating tho in superstition of more than one false god - we are still in this world
NOT OF THIS WORLD and there's absolutely no indication that they were compromised or we are compromised today - the opposite of Jew is not a Christian - the opposite of Jew is Gentile - I'm sure there was great controversy when the Rabbi Saul wrote in the first century that God made both groups One New Man in Christ Jesus - actually in the book of Acts when Paul went back to Jerusalem to confer with James Jesus's brother Peter and John concerning such things as circumcision and in the law of Moses - the English translation is "no small dispute" -(the word in Greek was KNOCK DOWN DRAG OUT (for all you gnat strainers and camel swallowers)
@MichaelPetrone-ng5yx huh?
He died in the spring and was born in early October
@Truth_Seeker14 prove it
@@auh2o148
winter
The registration. Shortly before Jesus was born, Caesar Augustus issued a decree ordering “all the inhabited earth to be registered.” Everyone had to register in “his own city,” which might have required a journey of a week or more. (Luke 2:1-3) That order-probably made to support taxation and military conscription-would have been unpopular at any time of year, but it is unlikely that Augustus would have provoked his subjects further by forcing many of them to make long trips during the cold winter.
The sheep. Shepherds were “living out of doors and keeping watches in the night over their flocks.” (Luke 2:8) The book Daily Life in the Time of Jesus notes that flocks lived in the open air from “the week before the Passover [late March]” through mid-November. It then adds: “They passed the winter under cover; and from this alone it may be seen that the traditional date for Christmas, in the winter, is unlikely to be right, since the Gospel says that the shepherds were in the fields.”
In early fall
We can estimate when Jesus was born by counting backward from his death on Passover, Nisan 14 in the spring of the year 33 C.E. (John 19:14-16) Jesus was about 30 years old when he began his three-and-a-half-year ministry, so he was born in the early fall of 2 B.C.E.-Luke 3:23.