John Salley: Magic, Not Jordan, was the Reason Isiah Thomas Didn't Make the Dream Team (Part 4)
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In this clip, John Salley explained where the origin of the perceived beef between Michael Jordan and Isiah Thomas started. According to John, it was sparked by Isiah's nephew wearing a Chicago Bulls jersey which made Isiah develop a certain disdain for the Bulls. But John explained further that it wasn't personal. He also said that the story of MJ keeping Isiah off the Dream Team was a myth and in fact, it was Magic Johnson's doing which kept him from making the Olympic squad.
Later on, John Salley talked about the Bulls becoming a force only after Scottie Pippen assumed more responsibility and that the narrative around the "Bad Boys" of the Detroit Pistons was started by Phil Jackson.
Sally: Jordan loved Isiah, loved everything about him.
Last Dance Jordan: I respect his game but I hate the guy.
Hating someone as a person is different than how you veiw them as a competitor. Everybody hates a vicious bad dog, unless that Dog is guarding their house. See what I mean....it all changes when you are on my team.
Who cares if they hated each other, that's what makes competitors great.
Everyone riding on Jordan's dick. Jordan just speaking on how his emotions back in the younger days.
If Michael deems you important enough to hate you, you are doing something right.
You guys are not getting the point. Jordan clearly said he doesn’t like Zeke in the last dance but Salley says he does so either Jordan is lying or Salley doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
He also called mj introvert, wtf, whats he on about?.... MJ is being called a bully by some because of his extrovert attitude, whats this geezer on about
Robert Parrish hit Bill Laimbeer with a 6 punch combination.And stayed in the game!!
He was likely the only one..In The NBA to do so..
@Frank Converse Yeap 😂.
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@Frank Converse He deserved worse than that screw lambeer
Dammit Man!!!
Lets be real. They were not shutting Mike down. They were beating the Bulls. But not shutting him down. Mike was still dropping 30 and 40. Mike just didn't have any help
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Facts
uh no goofball. that was not his field goal percentage dummy. nice job making shit up you ignoramus.
Mike averaged 29.7ppg in the 89 series, and 32.1 in 1990.
@The Uppercut That's what happens when you are the only scoring option in a doug collins offense and was the best defensive player in the league at the same time. There is a reason James harden doesnt play defense
Who remembers the Best Damn Sports show Period ?
Used to be my favorite show
Can’t forget Lisa Guerrero!
Bruhhhh 😂😂
Jelani Caldwell I used to watched that show in high school. I liked that show.
Jelani Caldwell funny as hell
Isiah Thomas gets upset because his nephew is wearing a Michael Jordan jersey. Isiah then motivates his team to create the Jordan Rules. The Jordan Rules resulted in the biggest factor of Michael Jordan having that competitive🔥🔥
So🤔🤔basically Isiah Thomas nephew is responsible for creating the greatest sports figure of all time 😂😂😂
Adrian Terrell Absurd right?haha
Everyone has their perspective of a certain situation, and this is his perspective and truth. There is truth is what he says, but it goes further than that. IT was from Chicago, it was not just his nephew, it was the fact that he didn't play for the Bulls and was hated in his own town. On top of that the fact that Jordan was actually the face of his own town, made him boil inside.
Jordan had the competitive fire since youth, he would have never been 6 time champ until they got some talent around him, players like Gervin and Reggie Miller would have some rings if teammates were as talented as Bulls, Pistons, Celtics, and Lakers of that era. Early in Jordan's career he could score 40, 50, 60 and still didn't win. You must have a team.
Yeah right!
He was hypnotized with hatred
“Isiah went downstaiiirs & his kid was playin MJ highlights.
Now he is hypmatized by hatred!” - Boosie
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Exactly!!
Great reference 😂😂
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Fucking 😂😂😂😂 brilliant
the back-to-back Detroit championship team of the '80s will definitely get a lot of fouls if it were playing in today's league. but, boy, it would intimidate and terrorize all the teams, no exception. i'm a Celtics fan, btw. peace!
@MUFC bro you still hating on basketball?no offense on soccer its a great sport but bro you better stop the toxicity bro it aint good for you man
@MUFC ok man peace too i agree bro its a great sport but you dont gotta convince everyone just appreciate the greatness for both sports and its controbutions bro
@MUFC not Philippines dude... there's only a few here who play soccer...... most of us loves Basketball preperably it's our past time and every streets from cities to municipalities even in locals way up in the mountain we have a built in basketball court...
@MUFC wtf that got to do with this?
You dont think they roughed up ISAIH 2?
Zeke was left off because he had beef with Bird, Magic, Scottie, Malone and Jordan didn’t fuck with him. He had beef with a lot of them back in the day and a lot of them besides Jordan had a lot of say so
Bird didn’t have beef with Isaiah, come on!
Isaiah was left off the team because David stern the nba top exc would not let Chuck Daley isaiah's piston coach put him on the team, he did not like isaiah. He stop funding the CBA league isaiah purchased after he retired, CBA went bankrupt. NBA started their (now the G league)
Facts.
still putting your personal feuds and grudges above the national team is the worst thing an athlete can do. Executives are already known for this
Isaiah Thomas’s reputation was tarnished league wide. His Dream Team exclusion cannot be ascribed to just one individual because he was loathed and consensually.
It’s very simple: IT burned a lot of people around the league - it all culminated in his exclusion from the Dream Team.
After watching The Last dance it doesn't take a genius to see that this is FAKE NEWS 😂. Jordan STILL hates Isaih!
Jordan never had implied he loved Isiah, Jordan implied he acknowledged and respected Isiah game. So theres no chance it was Jordan call that Isiah didn't make The Dream Team.
Isiah is jealous that Jordan play for Chicago !!! From the beginning Isiah want to play for Chicago, that’s where it came from !!!
S B just because Isaiah and Michael aren’t friends doesn’t mean that Jordan forced Isaiah out of the dream team. From the Last Dance it shows that the dream team situation wasn’t Michael, it was the other players having personal beef with Isaiah and him being on the team would ruin the chemistry of the team
S B your comment is fake news. Just because the GOAT hates Isiah and vice-versa, doesn't mean it was MJ that kept him out of the Dream Team. They hated each other, but also respected each other, for their basketball greatness and competitiveness. Anyway Isiah is Isiah (sometimes not even put in the top 3 or top 5 PGs of all time) and the GOAT is the GOAT (not just the greatest basketball player ever, but the greatest athlete of all time).
I heard, but not sure, there was no one to defend Isiah for joining the Dreamteam, I mean if you use to have beef with everyone, who will say that "oooh ok I want him in my team".....
The Michael loves Isiah comment hasn’t aged well.
lololollol. no not at all
It was unbelievable the second it came out of his mouth.
@@LKaramazov Nice! I needed a good laugh this morning. :o)
Honestly, who is Salley to be privy to all this great information.
@@7521eric I'm not saying he's not stretching the truth but he did play with both of them and was on the Pistons during the whole Bad Boy Pistons era. So he's a pretty credible source. Unless they all sit down and talk about it for the fans to see, which would be highly unlikely, none of us will ever know.
I love to hear from people who were there in any story..
Mel Vino me too
A lot of John's stories have inconsistencies though. There are other interviews from players & even John Salley himself that contradict his statements. Micheal Jordan is ABSOLUTELY the SOLE REASON Isaiah wasn't on the Dream Team. Scottie Pippen stated Michael didn't want him. Michael was the biggest star in the world alongside Michael Jackson & Oprah in 1992 & the organizers of the Dream Team NEEDED him not Magic Bird or anyone else. Magic was upset & didn't want Isaiah, Michael was ultimately the deciding factor. This is a well known fact.
Jamal big mad😂
I saw the Magic documentary. He's right about the Olympic fallout.
Those were the years that you can really feel the excitement waiting for the games to start. It was not just a basketball game, it is a battle. Nowadays, you just watch both teams try to outscore each other in the three point area.
Amen. I been watching basketball since i was 5, i am 43 now. My grandfather was a college and NBA ref and he took me to so many games over the years. And today's NBA is hands down the worst most boring basketball i have ever seen.
Optimus Prime sure bud and my grandpa was Hitlers butlers butcher
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Isiah hypnotised with hatred. Even in his house his nephew wearing MJ Jersey. He saw MJ everywhere
MJ was everywhere. Lolz.
Lmaoo lil Boosie
I'm glad Spider came out and said this.
People didn't know who were friends then, because they all tried to kill each other on the court.
They didn't have to be on the same team to be close or friends. That's the bs that ruins today's basketball.
I'm glad he publicly took that off MJ, too. Jordan hasn't talked publicly about the Isiah "freeze," because he doesn't care what people think. That's what made him great.
Salley never knew the "Last Dance" coming out😅
Love John Salley - never met him personally but always down to earth, real and never any drama. He’s that guy. You can just tell.
there is a video of Magic apologizing to Isiah Idk if it was cause of that reason but they cried afterwards
They had a dust up in one of the series where they took cheap shots at each other and ruined their friendship
@@tomaxxamot4906 It was the 1988 Finals. The story goes that Pat Riley called out Magic Johnson after Game 2 and questioned if his effort to win was compromised by his friendship with Isiah.
@@drestathagangsta8880 Just curious, are u the real Dresta
@@tomaxxamot4906 Lol, no I'm not. But I was nicknamed that by my older cousins when I was a kid because he was their favorite rapper.
@@tomaxxamot4906 after Magic came out with his HIV announcement it was rumored that Zeke accused him of being homosexual. That's what fractured their friendship for almost 30 years
Isiah Thomas mad his hometown Chicago loves Jordan more than him
Why wouldn’t they lmao
so isaiah went home n everywhere he looked he saw jordan jerseys .like someone once said i quote" he got Hypnotized by hatred"
Terrance Khonde Boosie
Boosie aint neva lied! Thats the truth. Everywhere he look he 👀 jordan jerseys!
Why not move his home to Detroit? Such a simple solution. Hundreds years ago his ancestors home was in Africa.
@@davenue3428 the fuck are you saying?
@@quab5783 dogs will have six weeks in
MJ really respecting Isiah is true. Jordan had a Q&A at his camp a couple year back and when they asked who the toughest player he ever went up against was, Isiah was the first name he mentioned.
John please! Michael and Isiah did not like one another PERIOD. I was at a game in the old stadium after the 1st Bulls championship and the first meeting since the walk off by the Pistons. Both teams are warming up at the same time. Isiah seeks out Jordan at half court and tries his phony sneaky friendly person towards Jordan..Jordan wasn't having it. Barley said two words and never looked at Isiah. Walked away and left Isiah standing there looking stupid. Michael never loved Isiah. He could have at some point but Isiah and his jealousy of Michael owning his hometown would always be a roadblock. No one in the NBA outside of Detroit liked Isaiah Thomas. NO ONE!
I can’t co-sign this Jordan Dream Team story. Everyone, even Pippen, said Jordan gave Team USA an ultimatum: “Isaiah or me.” Of course they picked MJ and the rest is history. The fact that Magic didn’t want him on the team is another matter altogether.
who asked for ur cosign?
LyfeMuz Magic does say that in the documentary though. You never hear Jordan nor do you hear Isaiah say that Jordan was the reason. But you do hear John Salley and Magic say that Magic was the reason. Why would you run with what you want to believe? Satire media at its best lol
@Hey Mister DJ ur mother
Magic said himself he didn’t want Isiah on the team. Pippen said “I can’t speak for Michael,but I’m pretty sure he didn’t want him either” Mike just ran with it, but it’s been well documented that Mike didn’t say shit,but he also didn’t try to clear his name either. He didn’t mind ppl thinking he had something to do with Isiah not being on the team.
Stop smoking crack it was both MJ AND MJ
I think it's interesting that Sal said Mike is more of an introvert. I think most ppl would probably never think that, because of the superstar status, commercials and what have u..things of marketable reasons. Outside of interviews mj never really has been much of a talker.
He did alot of talking on the court.
I was around in that era, and I'll tell you that doesn't surprise me. When Jordan would be interviewed it was at group settings you'd see on the news but he NEVER had one on one interviews unless it was for a book. And good luck ever getting him to say anything other than platitudes until very late in his run. He was very image conscious in those days. And the media was complicit in keeping his dark side hidden until he retired.
@@MrT571I don't know why people couldn't see that he was an introvert.. They show their true selves around a few people..ijs. He was never my cup tea, respect his game though
VLAD has gotten 1 million people to snitch on camera. Congrats 🍾🎈🎉🎊
So funny
ikr..wth is really going on with VladTellAllVision?
Salley didn't tell the truth, though. So much for snitching...
Vladimir, I am respecting your show more and more every day. I am on a binge right now and my eyes are opening
Love these nba stories, John Salley was always funny in the league.
So the play where Jordan goes up in the middle of the lane and gets fouled by 3 Pistons and as he is coming down Rodman elbows em in the gut, that isn't dirty John Salley? I guess it just felt dirty but wasn't actually dirty? Or how about the numerous fights Laimbeer got in? Video doesn't lie and there are countless clips on youtube where you can see the dirty plays over and over from the Pistons. Rodman shoving Pippen into the backstop wasn't dirty either right Salley? 🤦♂️ John smokin too much.
I guess you never watched this Celtics much did you. You heard "Plastic Man" say Its a man's game if you come in the paint. The league is much different now than then. They created the Barkley rule. Now the league is about the 3 ball and yiu can't put your hands on somebody. I agree that the games were starting to get like hockey. But it was never about hurting someone. Just that you are getting fouled if you come into the paint.
Also him talking about how they werent trying to end careers but Laimbeer was stepping on ankles whenever he could.
Basically, when Michael bought in to the triangle offense, the Bulls were a better team than Detroit or any other team ever could be. In the era of the "Bad Boys" I agree 100% when Laimbeer said "Chicago has the best player, but we have the best team." But that all changed when Tex Winter helped put in that system.
The Bulls didn't become great until Jordan got help. So it took a bit, but once Pippen was all-nba level and horace grant was an all-star, did jordan get a finals. That was his 7th season in the league
@@morecowbell235 Horace Grant’s only all-star appearance was during the 1993-94 season. Pippen began to flourish but what helped MJ become a champion was trusting his teammates. John Paxson hit a lot clutch shots against the Lakers in the ‘91 Finals.
@@QuietstormRB Pippen made Grant and BJ all-stars that season. Jordan was gone trying to play baseball. Even though the documentary tries to save face by saying Jordan was getting better and becoming a MLB talent. that's bullsack MJ sucked at baseball (compared to MLB, Minors players)
@@Hero-3 not necessarily they already won three straight championships with playoff struggles prior to those championships. BJ and Horace had to step up tremendously because MJ was gone!
@@Hero-3 Statistically he absolutely was getting better.
So glad Salley cleared up the Myth of players back in the day wasn't friendly and didn't fuck with each other... We just didn't see it like we do now....
We just see it because of social media, folks just run with bs
@The R. Who are these friendly players on the court you speaking of?
If my own coach don't vouch or advocate for me to be with this Dream Team then Isiah's issue should've been towards Chuck Daly. Coach Knight had Steve Alford on the team back in 84 when he cut Charles Barkley, Karl Malone and John Stockton when everyone knew Steve shouldn't been on that roster but that was his guy.
"Harper hit the game winning shot against Utah not Jordan" -John Salley
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Right
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I miss the old days of basketball ball games. So many classics
In the DreamTeam documentary people said MJ seen 2 different rosters on paper he pointed to the one with Isaiah Thomas and said if u go with that roster I'm not playing.Facts
"I'm chosing chris mullen first"
Haha love that ish. Respect
They're both from Brooklyn.Salley is a year younger
That was crazzzzzzzy picking Christian Laetener over Shaq for the 92 Olympics. I was only 13 years old when that decision was made and I found it Ludacris and at 40 years old I Find it Ludacris.
"Scottie was an anomaly. We didn't know what to do with this." :)
What he left out was because of the way Doug Collins was coaching the team. They had to make the switch to Phil because Tex Winter was the orchestrator of the Triangle offense...Because he understood how to get the other player's involved instead of standing around watching one man try to beat an entire team. So Tex told Doug there's another way to play this game but Doug being a Super Fan of MJ didn't wanna hear it because he was to emotional. So they fired Doug plug in Phil and Tex Winter and they began to play real team basketball where everyone is involved Especially Horace Grant and John Paxson. Scottie started to develop as a #2 and that made them lethal, But keep in mind all they gave MJ was one ALL-STAR and he destroyed the NBA.
Today that guy in LA who calls himself the Greatest player of All-time need multiple established HOF/Perennial All-star player's to win and in this soft ass version of the NBA can't even 3PEAT...
john salley is living in an alternate universe thinking Jordan likes Thomas
This man has no reason to lie...good journalism...
"Played for the BAD BOYS!" He was a part of the BAD BOYS!
Mike and Isiah ironically minus the freeze out game.. had great chemistry onward whenever they were teammates during all star games.
Did anybody else catch the part where he said it was supposed to be Shaq and not lattner on the dream team and he says that's was political
Of course it was political. Latinier had no business even being in the stands.
@@DeepfriedBaby Sorry, but Christian Laettner absolutely deserved it more than Shaq or any other collegiate player that year. Obviously they didn't need a college player to win the gold, but they were clearly rewarding the guy that had just completed one of the all-time greatest careers in NCAA history. Nobody was arguing that Laettner was going to be a better player in the NBA, but the fact was that he had just graduated, finishing a 4-year career (Shaq was a year behind him) while going out as the winner of all 6 major national player of the year awards, a back-to-back NCAA Champion, all-time leader for most career points in the NCAA tournament, and the only player in NCAA history to start in 4 CONSECUTIVE FINAL FOURS. How could you possibly not select a player with that list of accomplishments if you only have one spot open?
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That's his opinion.
@@DeepfriedBaby 🤣🤣🤣🤣
NBA stories are up there with Prince and Rick James stories.
John Salley is always great to listen to
So much for “players weren’t friends back in the day” LOL
Puts that bullshit to rest, don't it?
Mike didn't like or respect Isiah after they walked off the court in the playoffs
You really think Mike gave a shit he laughed at it while golfing during pickup games
I think I will roll with John Sally someone who played the game. I believe what Sally says about Mike and Isaiah's friendship.
@@rodinmotion4331 you think Mike respected Isaiah after he and the Pistons walked off the court lol
@@TheOneAboveAll_ I was very clear with what I said, no need to question it.
@@rodinmotion4331 if it was so clear then there wouldn't have been a need to make a response lol, but you obviously must not remember that situation so I see why you would think that
The reason basketball was so great then is because they played the job, not let the job play them.
Vlod is little late, Magic and Isaiah had this discussion already when they patched it finally a couple years ago...
I don’t believe Salley. Jordan loved isiah? Total bs.
As men, who competitively perfect their craft through combat, you appreciate a great warrior. Iron sharpens iron. The Isiah vs Magic beef was personal bcuz they were friends b4 Isiah spread that rumor
Yea Pippen and Charles Oakley did an interview were they said PM everybody hated Isaiah and both of those guys are MJs best friends, not to mention Isaiah discredits Jordan everytime they compare Lebron to him, he ways picks who ever they compare to MJ the hate is real
Yea bs mike didn't like him
kostas pap naw dog, t was personal. We were all blood enemies.
It’s a shame because they played so well together on the east all-stars. Isiah would have heightened the prestige of the team. They should’ve kept Christian off the team.
Detroit were really UFC fighters holding mj
All then ESPN and Fox and CBS guys don’t know all this. They speak the fancy English with the fancy screen.
John Salley always has the best NBA stories. The most underrated sports commentator
I'm glad that John Salley set the record straight on this, so people can stop blaming the GOAT 🐐 Michael Jordan for Isiah Thomas' absence on the Dream Team.
@4:04 Salley taking about going thru their AD transition which Vlad had no idea what he was talking about lol. Adrien Dantley
If by “shutting Michael Jordan down” they mean they held him under 30 points then they occasionally shut him down, let’s not pretend they had him averaging under 20ppg on 30% shooting. A “shut down” MJ was the still by far the best and most productive player in the series on both teams.
This kills the myth that old players hated each other they were just rivals and competitors
Once again, when Sall is referring to players as "A.D." (Adrain Dantley) "Joe" (Joe Dumars), "Horace" (Horace Grant), he has to know he's talking to us and not to Vlad
You mean "Adrian Dantley" if we are being precise.
@@mca4u he might be talking about Adrian's plumber cousin, Adrain.
John Salley's statement about Mike loving the Detroit squad is kind of contradicting to Mike's statement during the last dance docu lol
maybe some particular members of the badboys bcoz if MJ really hate all of them , He wouldnt allow Rodman to be in Bulls or exchanging tickets with salley.
🤷Believe it or not u need friends like John Salley🤣🤣💪💪💯💯
Youngins dnt even know bout AD (Not Anthony Davis)
Dominique Edwards the original low post small forward
Adrian Dantley
"Wasn't Jordan but Dave Corzine who dropped 63 in the Garden. Wake up people." - John Salley
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I use to see mj and zeke talking all the time...they both had respect for each other...all media hype
I agree. When Isiah was announcing during Jordan's final season with Chicago, Isiah repeated acknowledged Jordan as the greatest player of all time and praised him many times
ego and pride keep Zeek off the dream team..its a shame cause if u look at the 1989 all star game MJ and Zeke played better as teammates than opponents..
@@TRJ2241987 But now, Zeke picks a different GOAT every time he is asked. He needs to stick with one rather than changing it every two weeks. Or just don't answer the question.
Salley could be telling the truth. Because if you watch the Dream Team Documentary. Magic and Bird were the captains of that team... not Michael Jordan. And others have been on record saying they didn't want Isiah on the team. But Jordan is the biggest name, so that's where the public's propaganda-influenced brains gravitate towards. Even Scottie Pippen said he didn't know if Jordan wanted Isiah on the team or not. Scottie didn't though. But Jordan is a very private person. He didn't even talk to Pippen about it.
Over the years there were a lot of interview with dream team players (not the main stars) and most of them said US national team is about comradery and players chemistry.
Well, Isiah wasn't friendly with most of them like all the players. And it will take only one star to say : If Isiah plays I'm out, because nobody in the team will say I wound like to play with Isiah and I stand with him.
And the question all these years is who was it ?
Jordan, Magic, Bird or all of them.
When I was a kid Isaiah was at Home of Good BBQ signing autographs.I didn't know any better or even care but I jumped in front of everybody to have him sign my Jordan Bulls shirt. Isaiah didn't care he just signed it.
There was something funny about Magic and Isiah's relationship. I remember at the start of games they played against each other, they would kiss
Now both there sons are gay
it's a friendly gesture. Nothing wrong with it. Weird a bit? Yeah but that's about it.
Dey was best friends ... I think dey was getting freaky together actually
Naw it's more than funny.....they used to fuck each other NO CAP
I think so too frfr them niggas gay
It wasn't the hard fouls that made Detroit hated, it was the constant fouling. They fouled every possession. Made it impossible for the refs.
No they didn't . Its obvious you never played the game. They were physical,and positional. And they played the best team defense in the league for several years. You are a Bulls fan so you hated them . We get it. Respect the best.
Salley is that older friend you love to get stoned with and hear great stories and learn some life lessons at the same time.
As an ACC guy,i've always liked Spider.I can listen to him talk all day.NY all day every day
The Bad Boys were not just bad boys. Much talent on that team.
He always coming up with some alternative shit
The lighting in this interview was perfect.
If John Salley had an ice cream truck it would be Mr. Softee.
After watching The Last Dance its hard to take much of this interview seriously....I am a Cleveland Cavaliers fans and I know the Pistons and the Celtics were dirty teams, the players will bend and break the rules to their advantage. There is no doubt the Pistons and Celtics both had some great talent but they resorted to dirty play to win and the NBA allowed it to happen because it was good for ratings, Magic called the Cavs the team of the decade in the 80's but without an enforcer or dirty play they could never achieve this. Once the NBA saw that Jordan was the money machine things changed.
Yer full of 💩 calling the Celtics “dirty”. They didn’t need to play dirty to win. Stupidest thing I’ve seen today! Bwahahahahaaaa!
CLEVELAND!!!!! This is for you!!!!!!!!
Pistons and Celtics were dirty? lol What are you, like 10 yrs old? Hilarious. I felt bad for the Cavaliers too. It was just a bummer that your best teams couldn't beat those teams, and then would proceed to choke against the Bulls when the Bulls sucked. I can understand your frustration. Makes you say silly things.
It's confirmed. Michael Jordan didn't like the Pistons and Isaiah then, and he doesn't like them now. What John Salley's talking here, is bullshit 😼
Pharoah 1 the documentary proved they all hated Isiah. You've got blinkers on.
Yeah idk what sally talking about. Magic and Jordan both probably blocked Isaiah from the dream team but mj and Isaiah hated/hate each other.
@@jeffrejr1 , truth👍👍
MJ need to get over it.
When Sally played for the Bulls he wasn't that great a player!! I believe they traded him too!!
If you stay with a team and win multiple championships like a Scottie then you can speak facts but Sally is just not credible.
Excellent interview... 👏🏼
In 6 games vs Detroit during the 1988-89 season Michael Jordan scored 159 total points for a 26.5 points per game average vs the Pistons. I'd say that's damn good...
This is BS - Scottie for one hated and still hates Zeke. He admitted this much when interviewed by Rapaport on the Players Tribune. Not sure what angle Salley is playing here.
Truth.
Mind blown...25 years later And it's ova a nephew...man niggas went hard back then... basketball ain't the same we need that old-school mentally again
Isiah Thomas was a great point guard no question about that and his skills should have allowed him to be on The Dream Team. But his personality kept him off the team. Look in the mirror Isiah to see who kept you off that squad. Face it.
Just here for the “keefe d” and “tk Kirkland “ comments 😂
Check out his Nelson Mandela shirt R.I.P.
And R.I.P. Steven Biko
Man they would have killed S.curry back then I would love to see curry trying to go to the lane with lambieer and rodman waiting for him.
He wouldn't make it.
It would’ve been a massacre
Like putting a marshmallow in a blender
Respect for John Sally 👊😷✌
Good point...John
Isaiah was jealous Jordan was the star of not only the NBA but Chicago, were Isaiah was from and his own family, not just Chi-town loved Jordan, he was jealous af and MJ was from North Carolina lol
The sad part was Zeke took it out on Chicago too. I never seem Zeke come back and do anything for Chicago youth but he did a lot for Detroit.
Cory Rimpson I don’t blame him they showed him no love so they get no love
TheREalCiTy Even Zeke's College Coach "Bobby Knight" said Jordan was the Goat. That ate Him up inside too, pure envy.
Those are lies
He's from Brooklyn NY
Isaih didnt make the dream team because almost everybody there didnt want to play with him! Move on bro its was 1992
+Michael Antonio;tell Jordan the same thing about Jeffrey being bumped-off way back in 93 ,and then dumped in Gum Swamp over Air Jordans tremendous ambling debts!! Get OVER it Mike,he aint coming back,THIS side of the Resurrection,so move ON!!
@Tom Ross TV Isiah didn't make the team cause nobody liked him. He simply pissed off too many people. Having him there would cause problems. So he's out and Stockton was in.
Magic blocked him cause Mj said if Isaiah on the team I'm not playing..So Magic went to Chuck (RIP) and made a executive decision 🤣🤣💯
Bro you got to stop LOL
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i use to see Salley in a hotel i worked at in buckhead in ATL. he was always high af.. would always speak and be polite
"...Until Pippen arrived. John corrected him. Pippen had already arrived, but he wasn't as involved as he would be in 1991, when the Bulls finally prevailed.
bro...in 1990 he averaged 32, 1989 29 and in 1988 he averaged 27, they played him tough and whatnot but they didn’t shut him down. also the only people who gave them any comp in their championship years was the bulls in the conference finals, only loses in the playoffs they had in 89 was against the bulls, they had 4 loses in 1990 and 3 came from the bulls.
Didnt shut down MJ but his FG% was lower than usual
Marko Rabin going from shooting 52% to 47% isn’t a big deal
@@billyfresh23 i agree but i assumed lower...dude it's been 30 years since i watched these games
John Stockton and Karl Malone being unable to win an NBA Title with the Utah Jazz was karma for John Stockton being selected to the 1992 Dream Team over Isiah Thomas.
@Patrick Savage MJ's feelings can change. Anyone who's watched can see the divide has just grown. Also, Sally is pretty honest guy and not caught up in the POLITICAL FIRESTORM that caused the whole problem like MJ, Magic, etc. But back to MJ changing. He's clearly changed a TON since he was a young and his dad was alive. Watch his interviews from then. He was so humble, so kind. He acted like a person who had GREAT PARENTS. NOW.... he acts like someone who's been worshiped as a god.... what would you expect. No person can handle his level of adulation/sycophancy without becoming at least somewhat arrogant and out of touch. I actually think he's done a remarkable job at that despite his serious failings, when you consider the LEVEL of INSANE, and it really is INSANE ROCK STAR LOVE HE GETS. He's Elvis+TheBeetles+Muhammad Ali+.........in that specific 'seen as larger than life' way. I mean he's virtually a LIVING PR MODEL.
All the fans overlooked one important person in the bar boys team. The hardest hit of the BY was the HC, Chuck! He implemented the tough nose d; he instructed his team to make each foul counts!!!
i believe it was magic but as for Jordan loving the pistons and especially zeke is a lie. mike said it himself he respects zeke as one of the greatest pgs to ever play but he hates his guts.
John Salley is 100% right! Jordan and I. Thomas were just battling for the NBA title and they didn't really have anything against one another. Magic was the main guy who calls the shot. I. Thomas was at Jordan's hall of fame induction ceremony and he was very joyful and was clapping when they asked Jordan to go to the podium. John Salley and Dennis Rodman were originally from the Pistons and they both even played along with Michael Jordan in the Bulls organization. John Salley is no bullsh*t.
MJ didn't have a problem with the Pistons... He had a problem with Isiah. In actuality, Magic and Isiah were competing for the crown, plus they had been close friends for years. Magic wasn't the guy the Pistons were beating up and beating in the playoffs, it was MJ. The tension grow stronger and stronger each year. Once the Bulls conquered them, MJ felt like the Pistons or at least Isiah who was the leader, would have enough respect to congratulate them seeing as the Pistons had beatin them the last 3 years. When Isiah walked by that Chicago bench before the buzzer sounded, ducked his head and didn't make eye contact, right then MJ lost all respect for him.. Unfortunately, the the Dream Team situation was perfect time for MJ to flex his muscle on Isiah. After the Bulls beat the Pistons, MJ and Magic met in the finals, then months later Magic announced he had HIV and that's when him and Isiah fell out. 6 to 7 months after that, the Dream Team was being assembled and by this time, Isiah was on everybody's shit list. MJ not wanting him to be on the team was the cake, Magic's disapproval was the icing. Idk why John Salley on here trying sway ppl away from facts they already know about the situation that came from the players themselves.
Stop it they didn't shut mj down they beat him yes but shut down the black cat nah b
John Salley is high. He’s talking BS% 😂😂😂
Salley spilling all beans.
So much truth here.
"Michael's gonna have to guard AD. ADs gonna give him numbers, check the stats". Just watched highlights of Jordan guarding AD in the 88 playoffs. Dude literally scored one time and Jordan stripped him several times....?!?!?! Come on Salley.
the Pistons won that series 4-1 and AD had three 20+ point games. www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/198805100DET.html
So you just literally lied. LOL
@@cbm3 sigh.....who cares who won. This is about his quote. When Jordan guarded AD, he didn't do shit...#facts