Jordan sounds like a bitch 🤧🌚 the pistons didn't bitch when the Celtics did them wrong that's how they got the Eastern Crown 👑 and Champagne championship 😞 team fuck you mean I'm starting to not care what he says (Micheal JORDAN) all he says is 6 is better then 4 yeah but if lebron gets another title he'll be on the level 😜 of jordan 😹 he's already but if he wins a 3 peat while AD leads them to the title but LeBron makes Finals MVP he'll pass jordan because he's all around he barely lays eggs.
@@hothous3jo3y32 but thats not very sportsman like, the celtics and pistons shouldn't really have done that and waited till the buzzer went off to congratulate the winners.
John Salley interviews are the best. He tells some great stories and he keeps it real. I’m an MJ fan but how can you not love the Bad Boy Pistons! They were some of the coldest and most ruthless competitors to ever step on the court.
I was the biggest MJ fan growing and I hated the Bad Boys because of Bill Lambier and Dennis Rodman. Now I hate MJ more than anything. I only still hate Bill Lambier. Dennis has some mental issues, so I excuse his behavior. He was also an underdog story.
Faaaaaaaacts!! Annnnnnnnnnd nobody mentions that shit at allllllllllllllllllllll!!!! But the bad boys aka Detroit Pistons do it now their sore losers etc (in my old granny voice). Ppl are just mad because the Pistons are the ONLY team to be all the greats! Bird Mckale Parrish Jordan Pippen Price Barkley Dominique Magic Kareem Worthy Drexler Porter Miller Etc!!!
I swear Salley tells some of the best stories, its not even so much the stories but the way he interprets and explains them is hilarious, hes a natural entertainer
Bulls signed him a few years later and he won a title with them. So did Rodman and James Edwards. So yeah a few Bad Boys joined that same Bulls team they snubbed.
Damn right - respect to John Salley I like the fact he said I don't want know part of that shit Laimbeer and IT are up to - I'm going back in. A classy player.
@@markoconnor7163 What "shit?" Nothing shitty happen. Torch was passed, Coach Jackson wanted them to hate them to compete. Calm down. Media is mostly overblowing it.
I'm glad he mentions the brilliant marketing of Michael Jordan. I've been saying that for years. The NBA and the companies that endorsed him did a great job. They took it to another level.
That’s largely why he’s considered to be the greatest of all time. Not that I personally agree with that opinion. But, he definitely had the advantage of a personal mass media blitzkrieg that Abdul-Jabbar and Chamberlain (among other all-time greats before him) never did.
As if "marketing" Michael Jordan was necessary or had any effect on his greatest or accomplishments. Give me a break ... only a fool wouldn't put a camera on MJ and just let it roll.
The NBA probably won't find anyone close to MJ. The way MJ did it was thru determination and perseverance. The Bad Boys played a physical style that no other team has had since and they were a great team. The NBA's answer to the "next MJ" is always to make it easier for "their hope/hype". Michael Jordan earned his goat status.
DaRebel Knicks had it. They just weren’t as great offensively or as smart as pistons. Bulls had it too but not with physical fouls just physical defense. Pistons inspired the greatest defensive era from 1988-2004 made the rules get changed to favor perimeter players offensively now we get the nba today.
Why do y’all disrespect Kobe like that lol. It’s crazy dude is right behind Jordan. If they played together like same era. Same drive same talent they had in prime I believe Kobe could take him
@@knowledgeiskey8355 You have to remember that MJ inspired Kobe but unlike Dr. J whom inspired MJ but got surpass by him, Kobe never did surpass MJ in scoring titles, scoring average, field goal percentage, steals, 1st team defense selections, MVPs, NBA Finals MVPs, and championships as the best player and leading scorer on his team among other examples ✅ That's why he will never be mentioned 1st over MJ by most people ✅ He has him beat in statistics, championships, and popularity ✅
KnowledgeIsKey Kobe never was close that’s why the nba changed rules after 2003/04 where 1 nba player avg 25 points Mcgrady on 41% FG, Bron was at 41% FG, Kobe was under 45% FG, in the finals he was 38% FG took 22.5 shots to avg 22.6 points that’s trash! Rules got changed that summer now Nash mvp, Kobe mvp, and every other wing when before centers and power forwards won mvp unless your name was Jordan, Magic, Bob Cousy, Dr J and Oscar Robertson! Nba had to help Kobe and Lebron era by banning defenses that were allowed throughout the history of the nba and making scoring easier then Kobe started getting career highs without having Shaq hide him from double teams but couldn’t win shit until he got another center that could score in the low post. Jordan never had a low post scoring teammate
I'm glad more people are finding out the Celtics did this 1st. People always blame the Pistons but don't know the Celtics did it 1st. Finally, most of you find out the truth about why it happened.
Quadry Johnson Uh how the hell could you forget? I was 15 when The Celtics did it & remembered it when The Pistons did it and thought why are people freaking out?
For me, celtics walk out is bad but they never played dirty like trying take someones life. Look at what bad boys did to win those 2 championship, they tried to kill the other team. That is bad. Really bad. They won games in a comfortable margin of 8 to 15 points but you know why ? By the 3rd quarter, they already struck fear, thats why the game couldnt be caught up. When phil came, he made the bulls played smart, laimbeer was in the paint expecting only jordan to drive in but he didnt expect pippen to be doing it, when he turn his attention to pippen, you have jordan now confusing them, but jordan played like a team player, passing to paxson when he could.
@yddubbud8229 so it wasn't bad sportsmanship or bad behavior for the Bulls to talk about the Pistons not deserving to be champions and about their families the day before the sweep in a press conference? I wouldn't have shaken their hands either after that. When you get personal like that all bets are off. The Bulls were the bad guys after that. It's one thing to say they were a disgrace as Champions but to ridicule someone family? That's way too far.
Man I had to do a college report on the marketing of Jordan/Nike brand (like I’m sure most business majors have) and it’s really revolutionary and may never happen again, how they built him; but his game was also revolutionary, and he played up to to that level on the court as much as off of it..
Man! I used to hate those Pistons! But damn it, They were Solid! The League had tried to rewrite history and leave the Pistons out of it! But No! The Bad Boys were Great!
Kakaroto K facts. Even when we won in 04 they tried to scrub us out, and hardly acknowledged us as champs that year. It’s nothing new to us though... we got 3 🏆🏆🏆. Most folks don’t even have one lol shrugs
People still don't want to admit how good the Pistons were from 1987-1991. They were such a tough and deep team. The 1989 Team was easily one of the best NBA teams ever.
THANK YOU. WHY NO ONE TALK ABOUT THE CELTICS DOING IT 1ST? Even as a bulls fan I give the Pistons a pass on that. It I absolutely loved it. I shouted at the TV YEAH GETT OFF THE COURT..THATS RIGHT.. IT OVER
Shows you how powerful the media is; and at the same time shows how weak, superficial, and susceptible to environmental manipulation the human mind is.
I remember the moment that John is talking about when the Celtics walked off the court before the game was over. There was no backlash nor were the Celtics ever called classless. Wonder why? I'm jus saying
Joey Pipkorn Not “everyone” outside Detroit hated the Pistons. Just as not “everyone” outside Chicago loved/loves Jordan and jumped on the Bulls bandwagon in the 1990’s. Though it sure seemed like it.
Jaylen said it... John’s saying it.... You have to understand the “Detroit” mentality. The entire “Bad Boys” era, never really ended here... it’s tough. It’s working class. It’s willing everything out of nothing... it’s not a black or white thing, it’s a Detroit Metropolitan thing. It’s a Michigan mindset... So when you’re talking slick like MJ, his sidekick Robin, and the rest of the Bulls backup singers... and it’s in an intense competitive rivalry like we and the folks West across the Lake have... These things happen. Shrugs It’s not just basketball. It’s a rivalry on everything. Again it’s a mindset. Like Jalen said.... there were not that many Jordan fans from where I’m from. To this day you don’t see a ton of Jordan jerseys walking around my city... The feelings above fame are real.
facemobb02 ok... Zeke was from the Chi, and Jordan was from North Carolina.... your point? Name me any championship team, player etc that doesn’t take on the identity of the city they’re in.... Go on.... I’ll wait. So be it the Blackhawks v Wings, Bulls v Pistons etc hasn’t our teams always been divisional rivals? Michigan Avenue starts in downtown Detroit... and ends in Chicago (historically this was the route from our cities before highways). There’s always been a rivalry. This isn’t a Big Meech story... sports wise again this is historical. I know the point I was making though... not so sure about yours. But if you want to debate some more I’m game...
It is shown and written in Michael Jordan's "For the love of the game" book, that the only 3 Pistons who shook the Bulls hands and showed any class were: John Salley, Joe Dumars, and Vinnie Johnson
This is why I really really hate seeing Isaiah in interviews. How he throws his teammates under the bus about Jordan. "It wasn't me. I didn't do nothing. It was my teammates Bill Lambier and Rick Mahorne that hit MJ. I'm innocent." Come on Isiah just be a man about it finally.
MJ in his book said dumars, Salley and someone else came over to congratulate them but was never mentioned in the press. Difference between Celtics was MJ congratulated Isiah after every loss.
@@Fakename70 He's salty because the lack of sportsmanship showed by the Pistons. Knowing how hurtful it was when the Celtics did it to them, they should've taken the high road by not doing the same.
abidamn When have any of the Pistons moaned about how Boston left the floor against them in 1988? They were pissed that Jordan was publicly shit talking their style of play to gain favour with the referees, but they never openly whined about how Boston passed the torch to them in 1988. Never. They’ve merely only pointed out that they’ve been held to a different/double standard. Which they have. If the Last Dance was intended to be a look behind the curtain on the Bulls 1997-98 season, why the fuck does the 1991 Eastern Conference Final and 1992 Olympic team have to be included, except for the purpose of Jordan dragging Isaiah Thomas?
The thing that pisses me off, is that so many people talk about the Celtics walking off. It wasn’t done for the same reason. It was for safety reasons and not poor sportsmanship. The security guards actually encouraged the Celtics to walk off because they knew the fans were going to swarm the court. The Pistons keep being that up as a comparison but it’s not even close to being a fair comparison.
For those that don’t know. Reebok tried to use MJ to boost their product during the dream team ring ceremony. But MJ found out and out smarted the Reebok execs.
Optimus Prime yes they did. The one difference was that the Celts lost in Detroit and they wanted to get off the court before the fans rushed the court. The pistons lost at home. But still, I am ok with the hypocrisy because I hated the Pistons. 😇
John Salley did reapect Michael and the bulls but not the core players. It's very obvious those are classless act. When MJ was getting beaten so badly he always congratulates the winner.
Now I see why Sally stayed back-he was playing in the game. I agree I hated how they marketed Michael at the time. It wasn’t until he late in his career did I appreciate him. I still heated when Magic retired
MJ was marketed so well because he was amazing. He wasn't a beast because endorsements were lined up. Endorsements were lined up BECAUSE he was a beast. Marketing couldn't make Detlef Schrempf a global household name. It sounds like he's trying to slight MJ on the slick without being slick. Lol
You must be joking. Check out Oak chasing that entire Pistons team across the court when he was with the Bulls. Mahorn didn't want none with Oak when it came to putting hands on him.
@@Israel-nb7ip Fuck out here you ain't even from the 80's saying some silly shit like that .The whole NBA including David Stern new not to fuck with Mahorn and you going to tell that lie like I said Rockin Rick beat the bulls ass and Doug Collins there coach we had there heart until Phill Jackson snitched . I'm Detroit since 1972 didn't miss a game from 85 to 2015 so nigga please.
As a 11yr old kid, seeing the Pistons walk off without shaking hands, was the best feeling ever. Lol I didn’t care if we didn’t win the chip in 91. Beating the Pistons was the championship. Lol - Signed 02/25/2024
John Salley was one of the few Pistons that stayed and congratulated the in Bulls 1991. The only reason the Celtics left the court early 1988 was because they couldn't control the crowd at the Silverdome and the Celtics were told to leave so nothing would pop off with the Roddy heathen Piston fans.
@@MrHealthJunkie what do you mean all of those guys did. Dr. J used to come into the arena with expensive suits, if you listen to Jordan's interviews that's how Dr. J used to talk to the media. Larry bird talked the most shit outside of Gary Payton in the league. Magic was an ego of his own. And had a mean streak, ultra competitive. All of these guys had that alpha swag. It's just Jordan's agent ans Nike marketed Jordan as such that when he preformed then it validated their claims.
@@Jburneyjr Everything you mentioned is not swag. Jordan was bigger than Michael Jackson because every man every color and creed wanted to be at his level of Alpha. Why is Mike Tyson treated like a GOD in any country he visits, was that marketing too???
Why did isiah Thomas say something totally different??? He said in 91 they was mad and they shouldn’t of done it they was wrong so who’s lying isiah or salley???
Bulls swept Pistons 4-0 1991 went on to beat LA to win NBA Championship. Did the Pistons sweep the Celtics 1988?? They went on to lose against LA. For the NBA Champ.... Awww there sore losers like the Celtics were following there example about walking off the Court! Blame! Blame! Its like boys cant take butt whipping...Be Man and take the lost!! Haha!
I like how every time Detroit players tell this story they put it on Boston not shaking their hands. When you have class, you have class! You don’t blame someone else for your shortcomings when you get caught
He said that the Celtics did the same thing to them. But he went on the floor to avoid taking part in that poor sportsmanship! Salley stated that the Bulls was trained to hate them. If a team uses dirty blows and tactics to win meanwhile hurting you in the process; why the f@@k should you love him? That’s a stupid thing to say. Did you think people were going to believe that your team was unfairly judged?
I never caught these JoHn SaLLey interviews but they are golden... Damn I never knew it was Magic who kept ZeKe off the team.. But I did know about the CeLtics. I saw that video... JaLen Rose is hilarious
Let me tell you something. I have watched many a game with Michael Jordan back in the day and when he lost, he didn't shake anyone's hand. that's why when I hear ppl talking today about poor sportsmanship, I always think about Jordan. It's BS no one called him on it back then or since.
lol...at the end of the day the pistons chose to walk off regardless of who did it prior ...bulls had nothing to do with what the celtics did but respect to john salley showing sportsmanship
Zeke has been on record saying that if he had a chance to do it all over again, he would’ve congratulated the bulls. He didn’t because of the disrespect before game 4 from Jordan and the bulls.
🤔 there are times that Isiah has me scratching my head. You know what I dislike about him? How he talks out of both sides of his face. I lost respect for him when he went on those interviews and openly threw his own teammates under the bus by him claiming, "It wasn't me. I didn't do nothing to MJ. It was Bill Lambier and Rick Mahorne that would hit MJ. I'm innocent." I'm like 🤔😳 for real? You are naming names? You are excluded but you calling out Bill and Rick?
They walked off for several different reasons, the biggest reasons was because the NBA Commissioner favored Michael Jordan & made sure he won by changing the rules & having the refs favoring him. Isaiah Thomas mentioned the rules changed for Jordan.
They walked off cause they were sore fuckin losers. How could y'all blame MJ for something they chose to do? Y'all keep giving these bullshit ass excuses, the shit was weak, period!
🤔 yeah the same guy who threw/throws his own teammates under the bus about roughing up MJ. The same guy who actually name names of Bill Lambier and Rick Mahorne. Isaiah:"It wasn't me. I didn't do nothing. It was Bill Lambier and Rick Mahorne that would hit MJ. I never hit nobody." Really Isaiah? It's come to this? You throwing your teammates under the bus?
@@arizonaFIREent Jordan didn't cry about anything, Sall just told you what he did. Sall said MJ got in the gym so he could be prepared for the Pistons physicality. Stop spreading the Jordan hate please...
Champion actually made the Dream Team uniforms. Reebok did make the jackets they were wearing at the medal ceremony though. That's what he is talking about.
It don’t matter if the Celtics did the same thing the year before what matters is that once you do something that’s not right , it’s on you for the rest of your life , remember there is no going back in time to fix it you will have to live with it forever so to conclude make sure you do the right thing because there is no time travel
There are something missing: you know why the Celtics walked off? It’s because of the extra things that happened outside of the court. Rodman said that if Bird was black he’d be a regular player and Thomas co-signed it. At that time, Bird was the best player in the league. So saying that about him wasn’t something that bird or the other Celtics liked. Or the fouls that Laimbeer would commit on Bird. This dude literally jumped on Bird and could have broke his neck. So the Celtics walked off not because it was good natured but because they didn’t respect the Pistons because of the extra shit they did on and off the court. I’m saying overall as a team.
calvin Brice. T “May 26, 1987 · Laimbeer, who was fined $5000 for fighting after a flagrant foul against Larry Bird last Saturday, is braced for a hostile reception. Rod Thorn, National Basketball Association vice president of operations, also announced Monday that Bird was fined $2,000 for fighting and Bill Walton $500 for leaving the bench after Laimbeer slammed Bird to the court in Game 3 at the Pontiac (Mich.) Silverdome. NBA Commissioner David Stern attended Sunday`s game at the Silverdome, where the only action came from Celtic forward Darren Daye shoving Piston forward Rick Mahorn. ''The level of physical play seems to be stepping up this year,'' Stern said. ''It is not acceptable at all. The whole situation of physical force on fouls will be dealt with by the league this summer.'' The Pistons have lost 16 straight at Boston Garden with their last victory here coming on Dec. 19, 1982. The Celtics are 17-2 when playing Game 5 on their home court with a playoff series tied. They have won the last 13 such games with their last loss April 14, 1962.” LAIMBEER FINED $5,000, BIRD $2,000 Bob Sakamoto, Chicago Tribune CHICAGO TRIBUNE May 26th, 1987 www.google.com/amp/s/www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1987-05-26-8702080931-story,amp.html
John Salley is the smoothest story teller there is. So genuine. Doesn’t exaggerate anything.
Abba Brahim seriously watching the last dance and everything he said is spot on
@@jordandowling9377 well.
..not entirely true....Michael does NOT like Isiah at all...to this day.
Even if he did exaggerate, we wouldn't know. Cause he did it very calmly and smoothly. That must be some very good weed he smoked there.
Scott Davidson Maybe. But Salley doesn’t want to play the cheap controversial that most will do. I totally get him saying the like each other
@@BIgDAD450 John a real cat. Loves his Vegan life and smokes weed on the regular.
In Jordan's book he said only John Salley, Joe Dumars and Chuck Daley congratulated them.
And Vinnie Johnson
That's more than the Celtics did.
And James Buddha Edwards
Jordan sounds like a bitch 🤧🌚 the pistons didn't bitch when the Celtics did them wrong that's how they got the Eastern Crown 👑 and Champagne championship 😞 team fuck you mean I'm starting to not care what he says (Micheal JORDAN) all he says is 6 is better then 4 yeah but if lebron gets another title he'll be on the level 😜 of jordan 😹 he's already but if he wins a 3 peat while AD leads them to the title but LeBron makes Finals MVP he'll pass jordan because he's all around he barely lays eggs.
@@hothous3jo3y32 but thats not very sportsman like, the celtics and pistons shouldn't really have done that and waited till the buzzer went off to congratulate the winners.
John Salley interviews are the best. He tells some great stories and he keeps it real. I’m an MJ fan but how can you not love the Bad Boy Pistons! They were some of the coldest and most ruthless competitors to ever step on the court.
The era they played in including the bull dynasty, the dream team of that time was an is the best
I was the biggest MJ fan growing and I hated the Bad Boys because of Bill Lambier and Dennis Rodman. Now I hate MJ more than anything. I only still hate Bill Lambier. Dennis has some mental issues, so I excuse his behavior. He was also an underdog story.
@@njm844 I'm not the biggest fan of MJ off the court, but I'm still an admirer of his and the Bulls ✅ Why can't you stand him, though?
Motor City Badboys back2 back 89/90 baby!
Nismo Kali I thank them for the rivalry that made us, Chicago, the GOATS. 72/10 + 🏆
Im SO GLAD he mentions that the Celtics did THE SAME EXACT THING the year before.
But they always talk about the Pistons doing it
And that makes it ok?
@@michaelroberson7476 Uh...yeah! Bird and McHale can do it without persecution...then so can Isiah and his boys.
Think it was more like 3 years before
Faaaaaaaacts!! Annnnnnnnnnd nobody mentions that shit at allllllllllllllllllllll!!!! But the bad boys aka Detroit Pistons do it now their sore losers etc (in my old granny voice). Ppl are just mad because the Pistons are the ONLY team to be all the greats!
Bird
Mckale
Parrish
Jordan
Pippen
Price
Barkley
Dominique
Magic
Kareem
Worthy
Drexler
Porter
Miller
Etc!!!
I swear Salley tells some of the best stories, its not even so much the stories but the way he interprets and explains them is hilarious, hes a natural entertainer
John Salley never walked off the court he. He hung back and congratulated Chicago
Bulls signed him a few years later and he won a title with them.
So did Rodman and James Edwards. So yeah a few Bad Boys joined that same Bulls team they snubbed.
Damn right - respect to John Salley I like the fact he said I don't want know part of that shit Laimbeer and IT are up to - I'm going back in. A classy player.
Joe Dumars did too
@@markoconnor7163 He was raised right. Isaiah a supposed leader allowed another man to lead him
@@markoconnor7163 What "shit?" Nothing shitty happen. Torch was passed, Coach Jackson wanted them to hate them to compete. Calm down.
Media is mostly overblowing it.
The bad boys Pistons were a joy to watch. Intense and passionate. Thanks guys
I'm glad he mentions the brilliant marketing of Michael Jordan. I've been saying that for years. The NBA and the companies that endorsed him did a great job. They took it to another level.
Nothing brilliant about it, they just recognized his enormous talent and appeal and capitalized on it...
That’s largely why he’s considered to be the greatest of all time. Not that I personally agree with that opinion. But, he definitely had the advantage of a personal mass media blitzkrieg that Abdul-Jabbar and Chamberlain (among other all-time greats before him) never did.
As if "marketing" Michael Jordan was necessary or had any effect on his greatest or accomplishments. Give me a break ... only a fool wouldn't put a camera on MJ and just let it roll.
You don't throw marketing behind a bum. They were flying commercial before jordan. He was famous world wide, not just in the American market
@@mikepagliaro2123 FACTS
If Social media had a time machine it would be John Salley. Luv the behind the scene stories John gives from back in the day....
"The way Jordan was marketed was PHENOMENAL"
@Glock hands Yep. The greats should be marketed. Especially if they're dedicated
Believe it or not that is what save his NBA career
@@jameswatts6878 Whose career? 🤔
@@sholovesholove4620 Michael Jordan
@@jameswatts6878 💯💯Yo i been saying that for YEARS!
I just realized John Salley is the realest dude ever.
The NBA probably won't find anyone close to MJ. The way MJ did it was thru determination and perseverance. The Bad Boys played a physical style that no other team has had since and they were a great team. The NBA's answer to the "next MJ" is always to make it easier for "their hope/hype". Michael Jordan earned his goat status.
DaRebel Knicks had it. They just weren’t as great offensively or as smart as pistons. Bulls had it too but not with physical fouls just physical defense. Pistons inspired the greatest defensive era from 1988-2004 made the rules get changed to favor perimeter players offensively now we get the nba today.
Why do y’all disrespect Kobe like that lol. It’s crazy dude is right behind Jordan. If they played together like same era. Same drive same talent they had in prime I believe Kobe could take him
@@knowledgeiskey8355 You have to remember that MJ inspired Kobe but unlike Dr. J whom inspired MJ but got surpass by him, Kobe never did surpass MJ in scoring titles, scoring average, field goal percentage, steals, 1st team defense selections, MVPs, NBA Finals MVPs, and championships as the best player and leading scorer on his team among other examples ✅ That's why he will never be mentioned 1st over MJ by most people ✅ He has him beat in statistics, championships, and popularity ✅
KnowledgeIsKey Kobe never was close that’s why the nba changed rules after 2003/04 where 1 nba player avg 25 points Mcgrady on 41% FG, Bron was at 41% FG, Kobe was under 45% FG, in the finals he was 38% FG took 22.5 shots to avg 22.6 points that’s trash! Rules got changed that summer now Nash mvp, Kobe mvp, and every other wing when before centers and power forwards won mvp unless your name was Jordan, Magic, Bob Cousy, Dr J and Oscar Robertson! Nba had to help Kobe and Lebron era by banning defenses that were allowed throughout the history of the nba and making scoring easier then Kobe started getting career highs without having Shaq hide him from double teams but couldn’t win shit until he got another center that could score in the low post. Jordan never had a low post scoring teammate
@@kristion9774 Preach 📢🗣
Michael Jordan is not only the GOAT, but he is also the Keyser Soze of all basketball!!
I'm glad more people are finding out the Celtics did this 1st. People always blame the Pistons but don't know the Celtics did it 1st. Finally, most of you find out the truth about why it happened.
Quadry Johnson Uh how the hell could you forget? I was 15 when The Celtics did it & remembered it when The Pistons did it and thought why are people freaking out?
For me, celtics walk out is bad but they never played dirty like trying take someones life. Look at what bad boys did to win those 2 championship, they tried to kill the other team. That is bad. Really bad. They won games in a comfortable margin of 8 to 15 points but you know why ? By the 3rd quarter, they already struck fear, thats why the game couldnt be caught up. When phil came, he made the bulls played smart, laimbeer was in the paint expecting only jordan to drive in but he didnt expect pippen to be doing it, when he turn his attention to pippen, you have jordan now confusing them, but jordan played like a team player, passing to paxson when he could.
so what if the celtics did it first. it was wrong for them to do it so to emulate this bad behavior and unsportsmanlike conduct is just silly.
@yddubbud8229 so it wasn't bad sportsmanship or bad behavior for the Bulls to talk about the Pistons not deserving to be champions and about their families the day before the sweep in a press conference? I wouldn't have shaken their hands either after that. When you get personal like that all bets are off. The Bulls were the bad guys after that. It's one thing to say they were a disgrace as Champions but to ridicule someone family? That's way too far.
Celtics punk move on them doesn’t means that they has to do the same shit on Bulls…There is nothing to be " glad " about dude…
John Salley gives the best interviews.
I respect john for tht shaking jordans hand an the bulls
Pussy shit
@@arizonaFIREent 🤨
@@arizonaFIREentyo mama
Fuck Jordan, Salley should've rushed em for talkin shit bout the D
@Michael McMillan Nobody is on jordans nuts but we respect how he played the game
Man I had to do a college report on the marketing of Jordan/Nike brand (like I’m sure most business majors have) and it’s really revolutionary and may never happen again, how they built him; but his game was also revolutionary, and he played up to to that level on the court as much as off of it..
Man! I used to hate those Pistons!
But damn it, They were Solid!
The League had tried to rewrite history and leave the Pistons out of it!
But No!
The Bad Boys were Great!
Kakaroto K facts. Even when we won in 04 they tried to scrub us out, and hardly acknowledged us as champs that year. It’s nothing new to us though... we got 3 🏆🏆🏆. Most folks don’t even have one lol shrugs
Yes they were Great
Damn I loved each and every one of those Pistons!
People still don't want to admit how good the Pistons were from 1987-1991. They were such a tough and deep team. The 1989 Team was easily one of the best NBA teams ever.
@@Sassonic From what I see they started being good in 85
THANK YOU. WHY NO ONE TALK ABOUT THE CELTICS DOING IT 1ST? Even as a bulls fan I give the Pistons a pass on that. It I absolutely loved it. I shouted at the TV YEAH GETT OFF THE COURT..THATS RIGHT.. IT OVER
🤣 Go Bulls❗
DUNKED ON!!! DA BULLS!
@@chistability5405 Running of the Bulls 🐂🐂🐂🐂🐂🐂🐂🐂🐂🐂🐂🐂🐂❗❗❗❗❗❗❗❗❗❗❗❗❗
DA BULLLLLLLS!!!!!!!
Shows you how powerful the media is; and at the same time shows how weak, superficial, and susceptible to environmental manipulation the human mind is.
I remember the moment that John is talking about when the Celtics walked off the court before the game was over. There was no backlash nor were the Celtics ever called classless. Wonder why? I'm jus saying
Cause the pistons were already hated by everyone outside of Detroit for their style of play.
Joey Pipkorn
Not “everyone” outside Detroit hated the Pistons. Just as not “everyone” outside Chicago loved/loves Jordan and jumped on the Bulls bandwagon in the 1990’s. Though it sure seemed like it.
Whose here after the Last Dance Episode 4 Isaiah Thomas💯
Jaylen said it...
John’s saying it....
You have to understand the “Detroit” mentality. The entire “Bad Boys” era, never really ended here... it’s tough. It’s working class. It’s willing everything out of nothing... it’s not a black or white thing, it’s a Detroit Metropolitan thing. It’s a Michigan mindset...
So when you’re talking slick like MJ, his sidekick Robin, and the rest of the Bulls backup singers... and it’s in an intense competitive rivalry like we and the folks West across the Lake have...
These things happen. Shrugs
It’s not just basketball. It’s a rivalry on everything. Again it’s a mindset. Like Jalen said.... there were not that many Jordan fans from where I’m from. To this day you don’t see a ton of Jordan jerseys walking around my city... The feelings above fame are real.
Ppl understand that but it's still about sportsmanship
Meanwhile Zeke & Agguire are Chicago cats!!!! Don't act like the d punked us, we know that ain't true
Did the whole city of Chicago vs Detroit rivalry start with Bulls vs Pistons or was it before that?
Preach
facemobb02 ok... Zeke was from the Chi, and Jordan was from North Carolina.... your point?
Name me any championship team, player etc that doesn’t take on the identity of the city they’re in....
Go on.... I’ll wait.
So be it the Blackhawks v Wings, Bulls v Pistons etc hasn’t our teams always been divisional rivals?
Michigan Avenue starts in downtown Detroit... and ends in Chicago (historically this was the route from our cities before highways). There’s always been a rivalry. This isn’t a Big Meech story... sports wise again this is historical.
I know the point I was making though... not so sure about yours. But if you want to debate some more I’m game...
It is shown and written in Michael Jordan's "For the love of the game" book, that the only 3 Pistons who shook the Bulls hands and showed any class were: John Salley, Joe Dumars, and Vinnie Johnson
Exactly and John sally is full of shi.
Salley always was consistent in interviews, always told the truth from his perspective and never stretched anything.
This is why I really really hate seeing Isaiah in interviews. How he throws his teammates under the bus about Jordan. "It wasn't me. I didn't do nothing. It was my teammates Bill Lambier and Rick Mahorne that hit MJ. I'm innocent."
Come on Isiah just be a man about it finally.
John Salley given out more free information then tekashi 69 in federal court 💯
who?
It's not criminal + 69 was a plant
@@jstine7671 "a plant" you sound stupid
Man shut da fuck up you dumb as fuck! Not even close to being a comparison
@@SouljaSolo Not so laid back after all.
I think Joe Dumars gave MJ a handshake and congratulated him when they walked off
MJ in his book said dumars, Salley and someone else came over to congratulate them but was never mentioned in the press. Difference between Celtics was MJ congratulated Isiah after every loss.
@@at1212b the other was James Edwards.
Laimbeer has class.
T.K. Kirkland: I taught the Pistons how to walk off the court.
"You take your ass whippin like a man, I don't care how you walk off..." Michael Jordan when addressing the Pistons walk off.
TexanTube
Nah. He’s just salty because they wouldn’t bow down.
@@Fakename70 He's salty because the lack of sportsmanship showed by the Pistons. Knowing how hurtful it was when the Celtics did it to them, they should've taken the high road by not doing the same.
abidamn
When have any of the Pistons moaned about how Boston left the floor against them in 1988? They were pissed that Jordan was publicly shit talking their style of play to gain favour with the referees, but they never openly whined about how Boston passed the torch to them in 1988. Never. They’ve merely only pointed out that they’ve been held to a different/double standard. Which they have. If the Last Dance was intended to be a look behind the curtain on the Bulls 1997-98 season, why the fuck does the 1991 Eastern Conference Final and 1992 Olympic team have to be included, except for the purpose of Jordan dragging Isaiah Thomas?
Jalen Rose in 98 was his best season ever.. He was balling!!
He had the coolest free throw shot to
Yep! He was a beast that year and almost helped the Pacers get M.J.
Ram Martin what about 2000?
@@marcbibanga5601 he had a good season in 2000, not like 98 especially in the conference finals again Mike.
@@marcbibanga5601 Him and Reg was bringing it to the Lakers!
Spider stories make miss the 80s,90s, 00s basketball
The thing that pisses me off, is that so many people talk about the Celtics walking off. It wasn’t done for the same reason. It was for safety reasons and not poor sportsmanship. The security guards actually encouraged the Celtics to walk off because they knew the fans were going to swarm the court. The Pistons keep being that up as a comparison but it’s not even close to being a fair comparison.
Wow.. This is the 1st time I actuality think Salley should have his own show again
The way Salley’s positioned himself in the culture is dope! #Evolution
For those that don’t know. Reebok tried to use MJ to boost their product during the dream team ring ceremony. But MJ found out and out smarted the Reebok execs.
“There’s some shit goin Down, put me back in the game” 😂😂😂
It made Chicago better thank you for that we took it personal
😂🤣😂😂😂🤣😂
The Bad Boys were like the Deathrow Records of the NBA. A team full of Suge Knights, Pacs and Mob James'
Lol damn that's a good one
@sharon curry ummmm they were good and im not even a Pistons fan lol and why you call them thugs ? Hahahaha
You really reached throwing James in there but okay
Did this guy really compare Bad Boys to Death Row?
@sharon curry you must be Pippen fan...lol
The way he broke down, Jordan’s marketing was perfect
Durrrell Jordan talk about it
The Celtics did walk off the court on the Pistons. Lots of NBA fans don't know this.
Optimus Prime yes they did. The one difference was that the Celts lost in Detroit and they wanted to get off the court before the fans rushed the court. The pistons lost at home. But still, I am ok with the hypocrisy because I hated the Pistons. 😇
@andre jamison nah you're just a dumb racist
Detroit created a monster and his name Michael Jeffrey Jordan. Thanks Detroit. #goat
“We handed them the torch like we were handed the torch.” Key word is torch. 🤣
John Salley did reapect Michael and the bulls but not the core players. It's very obvious those are classless act. When MJ was getting beaten so badly he always congratulates the winner.
Michael Duncan and ended his career with 5 mvps, 6 rings, 6 fmvps, 1 dpoty, and 12 scoring titles 🥱
John should have been given more minutes on the court. He was a true "Spiderman."
Everytime I see anything about John salley I always read his name in isiah Thomas theme music voice “Johnnn sallleey” 😂
Now I see why Sally stayed back-he was playing in the game. I agree I hated how they marketed Michael at the time. It wasn’t until he late in his career did I appreciate him. I still heated when Magic retired
MJ was marketed so well because he was amazing. He wasn't a beast because endorsements were lined up. Endorsements were lined up BECAUSE he was a beast. Marketing couldn't make Detlef Schrempf a global household name. It sounds like he's trying to slight MJ on the slick without being slick. Lol
When Salley said, "C'mon, son" he sounded just like Ed Lover.. lol
It would be cool to interview Michael Jordan and hear some of his stories.
Mahorn.... Was one of few ppl outside Antoine Carr..... Who could make Oak hesitate...
Mahorn beat Oakley and half the Bull's ass and threw there coach about 5 feet.
Facts lol 🏆
You must be joking. Check out Oak chasing that entire Pistons team across the court when he was with the Bulls. Mahorn didn't want none with Oak when it came to putting hands on him.
Oak smacked their whole team lol
@@Israel-nb7ip Fuck out here you ain't even from the 80's saying some silly shit like that .The whole NBA including David Stern new not to fuck with Mahorn and you going to tell that lie like I said Rockin Rick beat the bulls ass and Doug Collins there coach we had there heart until Phill Jackson snitched . I'm Detroit since 1972 didn't miss a game from 85 to 2015 so nigga please.
As a 11yr old kid, seeing the Pistons walk off without shaking hands, was the best feeling ever. Lol
I didn’t care if we didn’t win the chip in 91. Beating the Pistons was the championship. Lol
- Signed 02/25/2024
The Detroit Metropolitan Area cared little about Jordan when the rest of the world was losing their collective minds over him.
Mo Betta the pistons and Detroit saw how incredible Jordan was but they knew the bulls couldn’t beat them through one mans efforts.
I'm really glad he gave that context. Always thought that was some funny shit.
Salley the realist sportscaster ever
This is one THOSE interviews!!!
Rose mentions pre sleep
“Positive mental rehearsal”
1 of the best kept secrets in sports
John Salley was one of the few Pistons that stayed and congratulated the in Bulls 1991. The only reason the Celtics left the court early 1988 was because they couldn't control the crowd at the Silverdome and the Celtics were told to leave so nothing would pop off with the Roddy heathen Piston fans.
That's that bullshit Tommy Heinsohn told you, huh?!? 😂😂😂
BS
Genius marketing??? It's easy to market superman. What was genius was Michael play on the court.
True.....Not to be on lebron nuts but he's the greatest "athlete" at marketing
It was genius marketing. Or else Wilt, Dr. J, Magic, or Bird would be as popular
@@Jburneyjr Wilt, Dr. Jay, and Bird didn't play with the Alpha male swag Jordan had. Jordan was like a black Stallion.
@@MrHealthJunkie what do you mean all of those guys did. Dr. J used to come into the arena with expensive suits, if you listen to Jordan's interviews that's how Dr. J used to talk to the media.
Larry bird talked the most shit outside of Gary Payton in the league. Magic was an ego of his own. And had a mean streak, ultra competitive. All of these guys had that alpha swag. It's just Jordan's agent ans Nike marketed Jordan as such that when he preformed then it validated their claims.
@@Jburneyjr Everything you mentioned is not swag. Jordan was bigger than Michael Jackson because every man every color and creed wanted to be at his level of Alpha. Why is Mike Tyson treated like a GOD in any country he visits, was that marketing too???
Why did isiah Thomas say something totally different??? He said in 91 they was mad and they shouldn’t of done it they was wrong so who’s lying isiah or salley???
Isiah is one of the best players ever. However, as a person he’s terrible. He was jealous of Michael ever since he came to Chicago
Bulls swept Pistons 4-0 1991 went on to beat LA to win NBA Championship. Did the Pistons sweep the Celtics 1988?? They went on to lose against LA. For the NBA Champ....
Awww there sore losers like the Celtics were following there example about walking off the Court! Blame! Blame! Its like boys cant take butt whipping...Be Man and take the lost!! Haha!
Mj IS THE TRUE GOAT 🐐.....
BULLS ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Never beat a dominant mvp center that matters
@@versatiletitan2466 Patrick Ewing doesn't count??? He wasn't MVP but still...
(⭐️💩💩)💩💩💩💩💩💩⭐️⭐️⭐️⚾️💩⭐️⭐️⭐️🎰🎰🎰💩💩. If you look at MJ’s career like this, it’s more 💩 than ⭐️.
@@versatiletitan2466 what he beat alonzo mourning shaq ewing david robinson lol
John Salley was actually the only one who greeted the Bulls before leaving the court.
Mike is the GOAT hands down
The best to ever do it ....str8 like that
I like how every time Detroit players tell this story they put it on Boston not shaking their hands. When you have class, you have class! You don’t blame someone else for your shortcomings when you get caught
So they are basically telling us they became nothing more than a bunch of followers.
He said that the Celtics did the same thing to them. But he went on the floor to avoid taking part in that poor sportsmanship! Salley stated that the Bulls was trained to hate them. If a team uses dirty blows and tactics to win meanwhile hurting you in the process; why the f@@k should you love him? That’s a stupid thing to say. Did you think people were going to believe that your team was unfairly judged?
Dennis Gibson I agree, not buying that crap Jordan Sally is saying
I never caught these JoHn SaLLey interviews but they are golden...
Damn I never knew it was Magic who kept ZeKe off the team.. But I did know about the CeLtics. I saw that video...
JaLen Rose is hilarious
Michael Jordan said during an interview if I just got my ass kicked I wouldnt shake hands neither.
Let me tell you something. I have watched many a game with Michael Jordan back in the day and when he lost, he didn't shake anyone's hand. that's why when I hear ppl talking today about poor sportsmanship, I always think about Jordan. It's BS no one called him on it back then or since.
That's false.
Every time the Bulls lost to that same Pistons team, Jordan did indeed congratulate them before he left the court.
John Salley has always been very articulated in his interviews.
I'm convinced that the only reason Michael keeps Sal around is because he feeds off hate and negativity.
Huh
teedubb71 wat
They are friends, I know the media has convinced y’all MJ is the devil as of late but actually listen to the people who knew him.
I remember that game and its the truth!!! Anyone agree?
lol...at the end of the day the pistons chose to walk off regardless of who did it prior ...bulls had nothing to do with what the celtics did but respect to john salley showing sportsmanship
Good interview man
“If Kevin Mchale walked in this room right now what would you do”
Zeke has been on record saying that if he had a chance to do it all over again, he would’ve congratulated the bulls. He didn’t because of the disrespect before game 4 from Jordan and the bulls.
🤔 there are times that Isiah has me scratching my head. You know what I dislike about him? How he talks out of both sides of his face. I lost respect for him when he went on those interviews and openly threw his own teammates under the bus by him claiming,
"It wasn't me. I didn't do
nothing to MJ. It was Bill Lambier and Rick Mahorne that would hit MJ. I'm innocent."
I'm like 🤔😳 for real? You are naming names? You are excluded but you calling out Bill and Rick?
You go John.
Everybody always bringing this up as so bad
Best one yet!
Looking back that Celtics did the same thing, I have far less of an issue of the Bad Boys doing it
The Celtics was told by security to leave the court early because back then the crowds stormed the court.
What a great storyteller
One thing you can bet the house on is Vlad saying " when I interviewed* insert black person's name*".
For real like it makes him feel important or connected lmao
Vlad is the Police
They walked off for several different reasons, the biggest reasons was because the NBA Commissioner favored Michael Jordan & made sure he won by changing the rules & having the refs favoring him. Isaiah Thomas mentioned the rules changed for Jordan.
They walked off cause they were sore fuckin losers. How could y'all blame MJ for something they chose to do? Y'all keep giving these bullshit ass excuses, the shit was weak, period!
🤔 yeah the same guy who threw/throws his own teammates under the bus about roughing up MJ. The same guy who actually name names of Bill Lambier and Rick Mahorne. Isaiah:"It wasn't me. I didn't do nothing. It was Bill Lambier and Rick Mahorne that would hit MJ. I never hit nobody."
Really Isaiah? It's come to this? You throwing your teammates under the bus?
The argument is the reason the Celtics walks off is safety reason since the Fans could rush the court. Nobody mentioned it.
The Celtics left for the locker room to avoid a mob scene on Detroit home court after a win. I think it was more for safety then anything else.
John silly Salley was awesome knowing it's a game, and you can be human after.
These interviews kinda reminds me of the charlie murphy stories
Bad Boys should always be known for forcing the GOAT to go Super Saiyan in order to beat them.
Walking off the court because you finally lose to the team you’ve beaten for years, is in the top 3 weakest nba move of all time!
They handed them the torch. Detroit bad boys
Is LeBron joining the heat and Durant going to gsw #1 and #2
Jordan crying to David Stern about changing rules to Avoid physical defense is a weak move
Tha Ruthless 1_ AZF Phil Jackson went to Stern, all Mike did was lift weights and got stronger! Going on to win 6 and become the 🐐.
@@arizonaFIREent Jordan didn't cry about anything, Sall just told you what he did. Sall said MJ got in the gym so he could be prepared for the Pistons physicality. Stop spreading the Jordan hate please...
This man just called Jordan “The New Messiah”
He was being sarcastic
Bad boys for life!
Champion actually made the Dream Team uniforms.
Reebok did make the jackets they were wearing at the medal ceremony though.
That's what he is talking about.
For god sake, just say we were wrong, we were pist off , we show zero sportsmanship and that was wrong ! Why is si difficult?
They can say it when the Celtics say it
Celtics walked off the court because fans were gonna rush the court. Pistons were at home when they lost
Boston got away with so many excuses. They are arguable the original bad boys and so maany dirty fouls
It's hard to believe there isn't a video clip somewhere confirming 4 Pisons walked off - not 12. It was Isiah, Laimbeer, Aguire and Rodman.
Jalen looking like Rog from What's Happening...
Look up bill burrs comments on this situation...priceless!!
Well, no one on the Piston gave Jordan a high five. Everyone on the Pistons has a different story about what happened to spur the walk off.
Joe Dumars did shake Jordan hand after the game... 28 years ago
Mike Perry Dumars has class, though I’d never seen the video.
It don’t matter if the Celtics did the same thing the year before what matters is that once you do something that’s not right , it’s on you for the rest of your life , remember there is no going back in time to fix it you will have to live with it forever so to conclude make sure you do the right thing because there is no time travel
That's a fine explanation, but the Bulls congratulated yall everytime you beat them in the playoffs, it was a bush league move.
For the longest time, I thought John Salley and JB Smoove was the same person. They look so much alike.
There are something missing: you know why the Celtics walked off? It’s because of the extra things that happened outside of the court. Rodman said that if Bird was black he’d be a regular player and Thomas co-signed it. At that time, Bird was the best player in the league. So saying that about him wasn’t something that bird or the other Celtics liked. Or the fouls that Laimbeer would commit on Bird. This dude literally jumped on Bird and could have broke his neck. So the Celtics walked off not because it was good natured but because they didn’t respect the Pistons because of the extra shit they did on and off the court. I’m saying overall as a team.
calvin Brice. T Commissionersaid he fixing flagrant fouls issue from piston in 1987 over bird and didn’t until 1990/91
calvin Brice. T “May 26, 1987 · Laimbeer, who was fined $5000 for fighting after a flagrant foul against Larry Bird last Saturday, is braced for a hostile reception. Rod Thorn, National Basketball Association vice president of operations, also announced Monday that Bird was fined $2,000 for fighting and Bill Walton $500 for leaving the bench after Laimbeer slammed Bird to the court in Game 3 at the Pontiac (Mich.) Silverdome.
NBA Commissioner David Stern attended Sunday`s game at the Silverdome, where the only action came from Celtic forward Darren Daye shoving Piston forward Rick Mahorn.
''The level of physical play seems to be stepping up this year,'' Stern said. ''It is not acceptable at all. The whole situation of physical force on fouls will be dealt with by the league this summer.''
The Pistons have lost 16 straight at Boston Garden with their last victory here coming on Dec. 19, 1982. The Celtics are 17-2 when playing Game 5 on their home court with a playoff series tied. They have won the last 13 such games with their last loss April 14, 1962.”
LAIMBEER FINED $5,000, BIRD $2,000
Bob Sakamoto, Chicago Tribune
CHICAGO TRIBUNE
May 26th, 1987
www.google.com/amp/s/www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1987-05-26-8702080931-story,amp.html
If you believe that BS, then I got a bridge for sell. Or better yet, a wall along the Mexican border...
MiSTaH bOmBAsTiK bro what im saying is in the 30 for 30 bad boys lmao. You can watch it
@@calvinbrice.t2140 still unsportsmanlike
Who’s here after the last dance