Better Than Heljan's? | DJM 1361 Class | Unboxing & Review
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After the disaster that was Heljan's 1361, I decided to give the Kernow/DJM model a try!
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The weathered versions look great. Well, this isn't going to have much of a problem to beat the Heljan version, but never say never!
Ooh I can definitely imagine that - they do look very clean like this!
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@@tozboz1018 *slow clap intensifies*
@@theretrocrowe oh no, a ghost
Sam on the title I saw "heljan" and "1361" and thought he's either breaking it up for spares or he's doing an experiment with it (probably model train vs lava pool) and then realised it was djm
it would probably be good for his soul to do that experiment with the tango lol
@@donaldduckith6792 he did! Last August he ran it underwater in a paddling pool. It's called "Train Set vs. Swimming pool"
@@lukeslocomotives Yes, but sadly it survived.
*spares
haha sadly not - maybe an experiment would be fun?! :O
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I had heard these were some of DJM's best work (i've heard the beatie well tanks stand up very well too, but all mixed feedback on the rest of their output) but this is a comeback i wasn't expecting, a shame they'll be disappearing from the market soon.
it must be the photographic grey, between this and the garratt it's plain to see that a grey loco inherently makes it run better.
Yes this is much better than the DJM locos I've owned in the past! Yes it is a shame, but overall I can't say I'll miss those mechanisms!
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I like how this version added the little rings that you'd use to lift the tank of during maintenance (the little bit of detail behind the chimney at around 13:50) add to the feel of the real thing
Yeah I noticed a few little things like that - great attention to detail! :D
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Legit I just see my phone and see the video pop up, keep up the good work Sam!
haha awesome - thanks for coming along! :D
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WOW!!!! That is SO MUCH more beautiful than the Heljan. I also love the working cross-head feed water pump on the right hand side of the locomotive. Also the color and details of the engine is beyond amazing. It's a shame DJM never really had a fair chance because this engine shows that they could have sold good locomotives. However it doesn't make any sense how DJM is out of business, and Heljan is still going. However, Heljan's saving grace from the looks of it is the Byer Garrat engine.
I agree Chris - the difference is massive isn't it?! Me too - some of the details were superb! :D
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I love your videos. On these tank engine reviews, I'd love to see some footage of the engine pulling a train backwards as well. My understanding is that tank engines can run in either direction equally well, and did so regularly. I think it just looks nice and realistic to see them run "backwards".
Sure Ken, I can look at doing that! You're right, they can do! :D
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I'm very, very tempted by one of these, at this price.
Thanks for the review Sam.
So tempted I've just bought the BR weathered version (£4 extra). For £69 at Kernow I'd say it's good value and will hopefully run better still once chipped.
Awesome Steve - for the money, you can't go wrong really! :D
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Happy to watch. I would never have been aware the price had dropped to a sensible level if not for your review.
I hope you've bought one, there gorgeous! A great piece of westcountry history!
I was on TSW 2020 when I got the notification, clicked as soon as I saw it!
Thanks so much for the support mate - hope you enjoy it! :D
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I have tsw also
Imagine how discussions between this and the Heljan 1361 would be XD
DJM 1361: I'm ashamed to be related to you.
Heljan 1361: Duh, me go burn spin box
Hi Sam, just bought one of these, runs like a dream, so pleased with it. And looks great.😁
Ever wondered why some were locomotives were painted Photographic Grey? :
*Photographic grey, also known as works grey, was a paint scheme commonly applied to steam locomotives during the period before colour photography became commonplace. It was applied to allow sharper, more detailed images of the locomotive to be recorded.*
Every year, on the date of her disappearance into the tunnel, she runs again as a warning to others. Her shrill whistle rings out in the dead of night, scaring Sam out of his wits.
"Kelly, what are you talking about?" asked Sam perplexed.
"The Ghost Saddle Tank Engine, of course," laughed Kelly, although she was shaking like a leaf. "Haven't you bought enough ghost steamies already?" Sam apologised and Kelly felt better. But not before the Ghost Saddle Tank Engine whistled loudly and made Scaredy-cat Sam jump a mile, that is.
Aside from your chilling Ghost Steam Engine purchases, I'm batting my eyelashes at you. Come on, Sam. I'm still waaiiting for City of Truro to appear. Excuse my acting like Sonic the Hedgehog here, but I'm going to keep on saying it until you let City of Truro out of her box. It's not right to keep a lady locked up for this long. So let my beloved daughter out of her box, or you'll never hear the end of it. Get the picture?
Great Thomas reference! I thought about that episode too after seeing the engine.
I was waiting for Sam to review the C62 from Kato
REVIEW 3440/3717
Oh blimey Kelly, what a spooky tale!!
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This is making me shake in boots
haha good to see this video, told you it was better! I don't actually believe Kernow are making a profit on this; in fact they say on their website that the reason why it's currently so cheap is because the price is a reaction to Heljan selling their model to retailers at a much lower price than RRP; Kernow felt they had to do the same to keep their model on the market.
haha you certainly weren't wrong! Yeah you could be right - again though, I don't feel they'd go so far as to sell them at a loss!
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Really great Loco. It is much better than the other version. I think the price is very reasonable as well.
Thanks very much - yes I thought so too! :D
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Bought the Hornby Mallard pullman today because my great grandfather use to drive Mallard and thought family hertage would look nice on the layout. Thanks for the review 😊
Oh wow that's fantastic Tai - how is it?? :D
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Most locos only had one side painted in photographic grey - the other would have either been in primer or standard livery! PS You really need the Oxford Publications 'A Pictorial History of Great Western Enginss' (two vols) in your library. Photographs of every GW design in various conditions, scale drawings too. An absolute essential for any GW modeller. As for valve gears, Lake & Reidinger's 'Valves and Valve Gears for Steam Locomotives' is essential reading.
Great review asm I thought that little tank engine was cute 👍 also give this video a thumbs up and my comment thx Sam for the review see you next video
ASM
Thanks a lot Claire, glad you liked it! :D
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This little engine reminded me of an original engine character i made, i made him a saddle tank, a 0-4-0 combination, ocean blue livery, black chasis, intead of having a wall leading to the bunker, has two supports for the cab roof with a huge back window, and the name Alex, (saved from scrap)
Ooh that sounds awesome - I'd love to see that! :D
if youre still planning in doing any more of those “team thomas vs team real life” videos you should do bill and ben vs hornby pug saddle tanks
That'd be awesome Ben - great suggestion there mate! :D
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Love it! Much better then the Heljan one. Though I would change the couplings to the black ones, as I think the same colour ones stand out like that.
I agree Sammy - yes not sure where I stand on those couplings, lol! ;D
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I think I need this one for my growing collection. Great video!
Awesome! For £69, I can actually recommend this! :D
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Sam'sTrains since I first talked to you about starting my own collection I’ve spent over £1000 on new engines, I think you can tell I’m bored sitting inside from this virus 😂😂. It’s hard to get models over here in the U.S but so far I’ve been able to manage
I bought my dad a DJM 14xx for his birthday 2 years ago and it was a brilliant little model. Was really surprised that the J94 disappointed you so much.
Glad to hear you were happy with the 14xx! The J94 wasn't my cup of tea at all!
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great review again i have good news i just bought a train lot with a bachmann spectrum ge 70 ton And a gp 38-2 engines with lots of track!
Ooh that sounds like so much fun!! :D
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Sam'sTrains the gp38 smelt like burning mechanics
IIRC Kernow had to take over the project from DJM and completed it themselves with the factory - They could confirm. also IIRC when they put out that special original they indicated it was at a loss but due to hejan price needed to move models
Yeah I've been reading about that - sounds like a real hassle for them!
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An amazing videos Sam thank you for showing every one the different locomotives on offer from different suppliers. An amazing locomotive. Can not wait to see more videos like this. Hope you enjoy your new locomotive. Really enjoyed hearing the history on the magnificent model. Nice to hear that the loco has no flaw and about the amazing details on the locomotive. Take care of yourself
Thanks very much Lukes - I'm really enjoying this too!! :D
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opinions of its mechanism aside, i think this engine is the most visually impressive i have seen on your channel.
Yeah definitely - the level of detail is immense! :D
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Much better than Heljan’s model, and it kinda makes me wish DJM we’re still around. I also really like the white-grey paint job, as it looks super unusual. Great review Sam.
It's rather fascinating to see the differences in perspective vis-a-vis a good steam loco mechanism in OO and N. It might boil down to how delicate the parts are on an N steamer, but generally, you *want* it to be all wheel gear driven, you want it to use a split frame chassis rather than seperate pickups that inevitably get bent and stop working. Coreless motors...take 'em or leave 'em in N, though I will say they're prone to burning out down there. I have a Bachmann N USRA 4-6-0 that's burnt out two coreless motors because they can't handle the stress and overheat easily.
Thanks very much mate! Yes I suppose N is a very different kettle of fish - split chassis sounds more reasonable at that scale!
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Lol, I still like that LNER J50 of yours in the background.
Thanks Bryce - glad you liked that! :D
Cheers,
Sam :)
HI Sam. As far as the handrail on the side of the saddle tank being lower on the Heljan model is concerned, I think it is because the Heljan rail is bent, making it appear to be lower than the DJM version., which is perfectly straight. If you match up the Heljan version against the DJM version, you will note that the short handrail coming off the smokebox matches the height of the long handrail along the side of the saddle tank. Therefore, in my opinion, it is the Heljan version that is at fault here. I don't know what model everybody was looking at.
Thanks for sharing Kevin, haha you could be right there actually, very good point!
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The sound of it reminds me of the old Bachmann model I have of an SCL Bicentennial Dash-7.
haha awesome!! :D
I believe this is your 2nd locomotive in the photographic gray livery. I think your first locomotive you took a look at on this channel that has the photographic gray livery is the Heljan Beyer Garratt. The photographic gray livery for locomotives looks pretty attractive! :P
You might be right, though I do have a few other grey locos - not sure if they're considered photographic grey though!
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I am glad you got a much better 1361 class saddle tank model. The off grey colour makes it more distinctive than the generic GWR dark green colours. Although, I do like GWR colours.
Let's pretend that the Heljan 1361 has had a bit of an accident and that its pistons are overly lubricated with oil.
I'm glad too Tomas, thank you! Yes I guess it's hard to beat the GWR colours!
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What a lovely loco Sam, looking at the Heljan and DJH together reminds me of looking at your review of the Hornby princesses, the DJH being the most modern tooling and the Heljan, one from the 1980's! Take care, Terry.
Thanks a lot Terry - haha you're absolutely right actually - you'd never guess they were made at the same time! xD
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10:52 I find it funny that the running number is the same as the class name for this locomotive! XD
BTW, that 6 almost looks like a slanted 8 due to how the top edge of the 6 is touching the round part of the 6, it looks like a slanted 8 when it looks like that.
Yeah! It's pretty cool isn't it?! :D
I really enjoyed the review of this loco. It's not a great loco my no means but I have said before that any loco better than the Helijan one is an instant winner for me, I even said that the Helijan Tango holds a candle over the Helijan 1361. So the way I see it, I genuinely wouldn't mind getting this loco, sure it has flaws and a questionable price (not good or bad, just questionable), but it leaps over the Helijan model tenfold. It's not a great loco, but it's a win for me. Thanks for another great review Sam, really enjoyed this one.
P.S. Now, if we had a triple header with this, Percy and either Smokey Joe or Miles, then that would be great
Yeah I'm surprised too - I'm genuinely a fan of this model now, and I never expected to me!! haha awesome!! xD
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I love these comparison videos when you have a not so good loco and a better one. My heljan western has drooping couplings too and they are fitted in the most bazaar way.
Glad you liked that Jacob! Yes their couplings are useless aren't they?!
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It looks like there might be some space in the body to add some weights? Add in drive train lubrication and you could make another video on it.
Cutting out on points is yesterday's news, many people these days use live frogs. I use Trix C-track, everything is live, no dead spots or shorts anywhere no matter how you join it up.
Peco make electrofrog track although the wiring can be very complex using that system with double slips etc..
Yes there is a little room, not much mind you! Many people use insulated frogs - I think manufacturers should allow for this - the more reliable the pickups, the better!
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Best of the saddle tank engines ever I love it❤❤❤😂
The handrails were originally fitted below the window cutout level, the only example 1363 has the handrail fitted at the same height as the cab window cutout. Maybe this happened during preservation.
Duly noted, many thanks for the info!
Sam, there is nothing wrong with split frame and using bearings for pick up if will designed. At least the bearings will last longer (if lubricated) than wiper pickups which can wear out much quicker. I agree with your view about the gears to each wheel. It does not improve low speed running and is just an extra cost to make. You can always remove the unnecessary gears. Core less motors are great if you use filtered DC. They don't like pulse controllers, hence the poor jerky low speed crawl on your set up. Some of the more expensive DCC decoders are capable of running core less motors smoothly at low speeds.
Thanks Terry - yes that's true, though a design like this introduces other issues, such as lack of accessibility and serviceability. Of course regular lubricants won't work either (as they insulate), so a conductive one is required; inconvenient. The plastic spacer between axles is always a point of weakness - even on modern Dapol examples, the I often find the back to back going astray over time! Removing the gears is a great idea, though I wouldn't dare do it with these; the coupling rods are very thin and flimsy, not designed for transmission unfortunately :(
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains Most of my models are H0 and use bearings for pickups (old brass steam outline and typical diesel mechanisms following old Athern style bearing pickup construction) Even though in theory oil is an insulator, in practice light oils like transmission oil or Inox actually improves electrical conductivity. I use Inox for general lubrication and keeping wheels and track conductive. See this Aussie rant @ th-cam.com/video/1r2L8NSxOnQ/w-d-xo.html If wheels are going out of gauge on Dapol split frame models, then these models will fail and should be avoided, I believe you agree, as loose axles will be prone to also go out of quarter causing all sorts of failures. Loose axles are often a sign of a split collar and gear. It's why most manufacturers avoid split frame construction for steam locomotives. Cheers.
Hi Sam,
The value, @ £69, is pretty good, certainly better than 2.5 stars. What can you buy for £69 that’s better value? Not many locos... maybe a Hornby Class 66? A bit sad you finally get a good model from a manufacturer and they have just gone out of business. I bought some fantastic Vitrains Class 37’s and they are no longer around either! They were about £70 from eBay, and they are great value/quality.
Thanks for your continuing videos. They brighten our days.
Regards,
Jim
I took the RRP into account too, since other retailers don't have the luxury of reducing the price as Kernow did! yes that's true about Vi-trains - i wonder what happened to them?!
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Also to note I have tried the slow crawl with my vintage kit built mantua 3 pole Pacific since I only ran a little bit previously it didn't really but I ran it Sunday since I cleaned it beforehand and lubricated it before putting it away she did run beautifully and it did a crawl i was shocked. Mind you when I bought it at a trainshow in January it never was broken in at all.
Great to hear that Matthew - a bit of oil and a clean does wonders! :D
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Looks like DJM watched your review and improved their quality
A great model
Keep up the reviews! :D
haha that would have been nice - sadly they continued making poor choices :(
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you know, after years of having model trains as a lad, I never realised you could just push the bottom (vertical) parts of the couplings together to uncouple...
haha yeah absolutely!! I prefer to just lift and twist though - even less fiddly! :D
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I must try that as I hate trying to rerail coaches especially on curves after twisting the coahes to uncouple them when the track is on the floor. What was wrong with the Hornby Dublo couplings?
I don't get some why you don't switch to Peco track as as it is far more reliable as well as the electrofrog points will work on DC out of the Pack as I've been using them for N gauge in either case with its pico or any other brand best thing to do is to always wire up power to the fog based on the direction of travel that you're willing to go or get a polarity switch you can get manual or digital which will prevent cutting out on the Frog entirely
Unfortunately Peco track is no good if you like to run older/vintage locos - particularly their points!
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I loved the appearance of this loco the first time I saw it. Thank you for your review. I have just ordered one from Kernow.
No problem my friend, hope you really enjoy that! :)
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10:54 I’m pretty sure it’s etched, because mine is. DJM just likes to have the number plates sunken in instead of standing out for some reason.
You might be right - I'll have to double check - thanks for that! :D
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Lovely little loco. Very tempted by the 65 tag. I've never bought from Kernow before, is their site safe to use? I only ask because there's no security cert appearing on it for me. I know they're a reputable dealer, just being extra cautious! I am so buying the J70 (Toby) from your earlier video. It is exquisite.
Thanks mate - yeah for the price, I can overall recommend it! I'm not sure about that mate - I've never had an issue, but that doesn't necessarily make it secure!
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I must say, I purchased a Heljan 1366 class (1369 to be precise) , even despite the review on the 1361 class , which is obviously very similar. I purchased it, only because it runs on the South Devon railway.
I must say, I would say it beats both of the 1361 classes. I went over mine, and couldn't find any faults/seam lines anywhere on the model.
The couplings still droop, and larger points are still a pain. (Judder or stop at any accurate speed) and the 9 screws need to be done correctly, which is stupid
However, I feel with a stay alive fitted, it is actually a really good model. I like a loco to run quietly, unless fitted with sound, and from this video, that DJM was making a right noise!
Just my opinion, but while they are still on offer , I would try a 1366 class. Would be interesting to see how it gets on in someone else's eyes.
Glad to hear you were happy William - yes I will admit the Heljan was quieter than the DJM!
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Well... my Heljan 1361 died, like litteraly it catched on fire! I agree with you that this model is better.
It's nice to see a good 1361 model. It seems sad that Heljan has models of locos that are nice/good looking, like the Tango and 1361, but the models aren't so great. I also really like that grey livery. Any more locos in that livery and you might be able to do a grey locomotive running session! :)
Thanks Patrick - yes you're right, it's a shame they can't do justice to nice locomotives :(
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Hopefully this'll be your last DJM locomotive that you'll ever review. The DJM J94 was pretty awful, but at least this one is not too bad. I wonder if DJM is trying to improve their models, who knows?
haha maybe - we'll see if there are any other bargains to come out! :D
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16:35 Sam getting attacked by a wild 1361 class! It is trying to get revenge from the constant jokes! Well too bad, it practically is a joke thanks to Heljan!
Lol
haha I guess so, lol! ;D
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Took your advise and ordered one. Only took two days to get it from England to the Netherlands. Holding it even reveals more detail than your review. A real shame that DJM will not be able to produce more of these gems. Looking at the connecting bar between the wheels it realy looks to scale. But that makes it also very flimsy. Probably the reason for the overengineerd running gear as the bars would sertainlt give way if the would get loaded by one of the axis getting stuck. Thanks for the review. Shame I couldn't credit you at Kernows'website.
Great to hear you're pleased with yours Gerard - yes it is a shame they couldn't make more models like these! Good thought on the connecting rods - though many manufacturers have fine rods like that, which do transmit motion with no problems!
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28:00 This is one of the oldest tricks in the "marketing" book. Manufacturers commonly offer inflated MSRPs so that retailers can offer big "discounts" and yet everyone still makes a profit. Consumers love to save money so items priced significantly below MSRP tend to sell better just because they appear to be "good deals".
Yes you're right Scott! If only the actual discounting part happened more often! ;D
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you should do a running session of all your trains that were featured in movies? Just a suggestion :D - Jason
Ooh cool idea - I wonder which ones were?! :O
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28:28 I found the odd one out! Is that locomotive the Collett Goods class? All I know is that this locomotive is an 0-6-0 locomotive, but it's a tender engine and not a tank engine! :P
Very well spotted mate!! :D
There was two, the 2251 and J50
Well,Sam
At least you didn’t review the Bachmann LBSC Thomas but you did review some other loco you wanted to review
Thank you! Thank you - I did indeed!! :D
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thats pretty cute
the white color makes it look like a ghost
Thanks mate - yeah it does!! :D
It actually looks like a base locomotive, since it has grey all over and a little bit of black lining
haha absolutely - lots of people say that! xD
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This locomotive looks like it would be wearing a suit and tie! Splendid!
haha I agree!! ;D
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Hi Sam. I am not sure if you are aware that You Tube has been sending notices saying they will discontinuing surveys next month due to lack of use? Great review as usual. Happy railroading, stay safe. Hans ...
Yes they are Hans - it's a shame! Hopefully we get to keep them on the community tab!
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This is my first viewing of this engine. The only opinion is: It runs fair it's just a matter of a break in period. It's probably better than the old Rivarossi in the 1970s that I purchased in those days...
Yes after running in the performance was better, but still not fantastic!
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Would be clever if the middle axle had a bit extra up/down play, so it would always have the front and rear axle on the track..
Yeah maybe that would improve it - but I have plenty of models without that feature that run perfectly too! :D
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It looks like the silver avenger (a fan made Thomas and friends percy model)
Or Timothy
haha yeah it does!! ;D
One thing that bothers me most about the heljan model is the messiness of the paint around the cylinders
Yeah me too - though that's actually the die-cast surface - they're dreadful!
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Nice to see Sam flying the Cornish flag. The 1361's are cute locos and its good to see model companies have taken to the helm to make one. Keep it up Sam!!
haha thank you! Yes indeed - I agree! :D
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Would you dare to review the Heljan 1322? I am tempted to get one but I don’t see any other company making them. Cheers, Matt
Unfortunately I'm not willing to spend any more money on the Heljan steam locos! The Heljan 1322 looks similar to their 1361, and as such I wouldn't recommend it!
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Thanks Sam for another great impartial review of what i think is a quite a nice little model.. With regard to the price reduction whilst watching your review I went onto Kernows website and the answer is there. It seems they are now indeed making a loss on each one sold but the decision was taken as another manufacturer had heavily discounted the competition.. Out of the discounted price they still also give a £5.00 donation to the 1361 restoration group. You can check it out on the Kernow GWR 1361 info page.
Thanks Chris! Yes I read that too - it does say that the reduction has caused them to "lose money" (naturally), but it didn't say that they were selling at a loss, and there is a difference! They may well be selling them at a loss, but that isn't what the post said. I do applaud them in reducing the price though - it's allowed a lovely model to find its way into the hands of those unable to spend well over £100 on something like this!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Awesome Review There Sam, Love The Engine, What Really Caught My Attention Was The Number, 1361, In America 1361 Is The Pennsylvania State Steam Engine, A 4-6-2 Pacific Type, Also My Favorite Engine, And As Of Now Is Undergoing Restoration
Thanks a lot mate! Ahh I didn't know that - very cool!! :O
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I really like the shape of this loco and am actually tempted to put it on my wish list, which would be the first for a tank engine. The price is vey reasonable, but I found that your Hattons affiliate link listed them as about GBP 125. However, I did manage to find cheaper ones at the Kernow models site.
The only thing is that I don't like fine details that break off easily. If there is an older, second hand version of this engine at a lower price, I would definitely consider buying it.
Yeah, for the price you can't really go wrong at the moment! Yes the Hatton's price isn't as good, which is a shame :(
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Well you can do shunting the mixed of rolling stock's in the yard
Ooh I like that idea! :D
Not typically, companies tend to lose money when they sell their stock at a much lower price than the RRP, it's mathematics 101 .
When I am getting a new loco, I always check if you have reviewed one to see if it's good! :)
Same
Same for me. the only time I did not do it, it was for my DJM J94...
haha thank you! Oops Oliver!! ;D
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Detail is epic
I agree! :D
Excellent review of the DJM GWR 1361 Class Sam 👍👍
Now you have chosen the best one and that is the lovely light grey livery with white lining.
I know the DJM ones aren’t that perfect, but they are a little bit improvement than Heljan version.
Thanks very much Joe - yeah I loved the livery actually!! :D
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Since DJM has gone into receivership, they might be liquidating their stock through dealers at a fraction of the cost. Kinda like a store closing sale. When AHM went out in the 1980's, everything was sold dirt cheap to pay off investors as quickly as possible.
That would be good to see - but I think these were all purchased by Kernow long ago, so DJM's receivership wouldn't affect that!
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That's a nice looking little Tank engine! What is "Photographic Gray" Is it Grey Primer? What railroad is that for ... An Industrial Shunter colour? I would have got GWR Green myself.
When engines were built they'd be painted up in grey for their builder's photos. In a black and white photo the grey would show a lot more detail. A dark livery wouldn't show much contrast with everything coming out near black.
Thanks for the answer Paul, appreciate it! :D
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@@mrail3 Thank You... So they never actually "operated" in this paint scheme?
I'm not sure what British practice was. In the US they definitely didn't. In fact it was often only applied to one side of the loco here for what it's worth.
@@mrail3 You are correct, it was only for the photo.
Hey Sam, just got my Centenary Holden Tank from Hornby Premium (or whatever it’s called)!
Ooh that's awesome - how is it??? :D
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Always the weight is important.you can add weights if you want.
True, but there's very little space for more weight inside this one!
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Heljan and even DJM make steam locomotives like how Bethesda make video games.
haha you're right, lol! ;D
Sam'sTrains No problem, both come out in a mess.
Glad to see it's better than the helijan. I'm quite fond of the paint scheme for this loco. What railroad owned it?
Me too! I really liked this one! :D
The Great Western Railway onwed it before 1948.
@@OlivierGabin ah, thanks!
That livery was just used at the works it help to take better photos before colour photography became common place. It was also used as an "undercoat" during steam tests before getting its final livery.
@@Taggart00 that makes sense. The lighter colors always appeared better on camera. It still looks very nice though
Other than the mechanism, yup, liked that one Sam. You picked a really interesting livery as well. Great review, thank you.
Thanks mate - yeah me too overall! Cheers mate,
Sam :)
One video, instead of the categories being stars, they should be ducks. I'm 16 and I'm wanting to see things as stupid as this. The lockdown is driving me crazy!
haha, don't say things like that to me mate - it'll end up happening! ;D
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SAM, GRAB THE BLUEBELLS RAILWAYS 60TH ANNIVERSARY WAGON BY DAPOL! THERE IS ONLY 115 MADE! I just got one my self!
That sounds awesome actually!! :D
I have just bought this model in the green from Kernow models and although runs fairly well i noticed that the motor was a bit more noisy than I had expected but the one in the video seems to run without any noise.
Why is this?
argh, I hope youve put the body back on better since this Sam!
haha yeah - it's a right bugger - if it wasn't so flimsy/plasticy, I might have managed it!! ;D
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I see why you like Photogenic Grey now. Compliments it very well
Thank you! I think it looks lovely on this loco too! :D
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I wouldn’t say the price paid implies a big margin at RRP. Kernow dropped the price with some reluctance as the Heljan ones were effectively being dumped on the market. Thanks as always for the video!
Thanks for the comment Chrispy! Consider the Oxford N7 loco though; it's much bigger, is largely die-cast, has a similar amount of detail and performs much better due to it's superior mechanism! This costs £20 more than that! Similar story with the Hornby Terrier, which is £25 cheaper than this! There's no doubt in my mind that they'd be doing very well indeed at the RRP. It's a shame the market has been flooded with the inferior Heljan model though - but at least it's brought about decent prices for once!
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Sam'sTrains Excellent points! Being in Australia with the exchange rate the way it is, pricing is pot luck here!
Sam: I'm not going to buy another 1361 class locomotive.
DJM: I'm about to change this users whole opinion.
Note. This is another account that I own, and for some reason, have posted a few comments with by total accident.
haha that's not wrong, lol! ;D
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Photographic grey = loco drip
Something i realized now is
Why are the rods painted
If it where the real thing it wouldn't be painted because you need to check for cracks
This does look nice in grey and there isn't many that look good in that colour...I'm wondering if I should pick up a Ruston shunter.
Thanks mate, I thought so too! Yeah the Rustons are pretty awesome overall! :D
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A stunning looking model Sam, and despite it's running niggles, seems to represent good value for money...Thanks again for sharing your expertise..Bob
Thanks a lot Bob - yes at the new price, they're well worth it! My pleasure mate! :D
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Some time back I bought Heljan's Bayer Garret from Hattons.. Was not very pleased with the quality of Heljan. Certainly Heljan is way behind Brawa, Trix, Rapido etc.
Yeah, I'm not too happy with the quality of the Garratts either - latest release was much better, but still left a lot to be desired! :/
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hi Sam sorry i haven't commented lately oof
Do you have any recommendations for a 00 gauge loco that runs well over points and has a good slow speed ;D
That's okay Bee - most of the modern Hornby locos do - particularly tender engines! :D
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@@SamsTrains thanks sam i forgot to say in my other messidge i am locking for a shunting loco ; ) sorry i cant spell oof lol :(
I like this one better than the last one
Me too - it is much better! :D
29:50 Do I see Bullman behind the train of the DJM 1361 Class? :O
I can barely see anything at the rear since it's pretty blurry.
haha well spotted, lol! ;D
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