The problem with California's Ebike Rebate (And my solution)

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  • @topotone
    @topotone หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You've just set the bar higher than any other company can reach. Not just with this deal, but your commitment to providing excellence in your product and integrity in your mission to deliver amazing quality bikes. Good on ya!

  • @NWforager
    @NWforager หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    the BlackBird blows away all the similar 750w ebikes . Larger disc brakes make a huge difference . Torque sensor , good fork , 52volts . Super Deal for the components and 16hundred ⚡⚡

  • @Arod40
    @Arod40 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wish I lived in Cali to come and check out y'alls shop. I'm a disabled veteran and loved going on bike rides and had back surgery 6 years ago and it's really hard to go riding and i've been looking into getting into an E-Bike and stumbled across your channel and y'all are awesome. Keep up the great work.

  • @sanchezs7614
    @sanchezs7614 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We need rebates and more bike lanes! 😢 My area is over saturated with cars and i get tired of driving everywhere

  • @Biffwellington4518
    @Biffwellington4518 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Who are the UL certified e-bike/e-bike battery manufacturers? Knowing how Gruesome Newsom works, follow the money.

  • @punkdigerati
    @punkdigerati หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Clearing stock, finding out what UL fits the requirements, then re-releasing it under those parameters for when the rebate actually goes live.

  • @kokopelli314
    @kokopelli314 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I totally agree with UL certification for subsidized batteries. I would add that if sellers are to receive any taxpayer money, they must adhere to strict price controls.

  • @qibble455
    @qibble455 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    A Blackbird for $1600~$1700 is just amazing. Imho It's defiantly one of the best bikes for the money even at the old price.

  • @georose33
    @georose33 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the new location, I hope you're in good health.

  • @mikeyp5130
    @mikeyp5130 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a freaking mess.....Thanks for the info always Kyle!

  • @jimp.7286
    @jimp.7286 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Best I can figure,...UL probably got dragged in by either insurance companies or attorneys for the state due to lithium battery fires in the news, (people store their bikes inside houses, apartments ect. while charging them there),. Perhaps they feel a u.l certificate is worth something to the state in case a structure goes up and there's loss of life by providing the state some legal protection tied to their rebate program?

  • @damondonner1198
    @damondonner1198 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That is an amazing price for this bike! Wish I had the $$. I would drive down from Oregon to get it.

  • @turkeyssr
    @turkeyssr หลายเดือนก่อน

    Keep it the good work. We appreciate it.

  • @JediGeronimo
    @JediGeronimo หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'll have to pop by the shop to check it out!

  • @richardlewis2290
    @richardlewis2290 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Our shop followed the Rebate Program. The Cal Rebate Program was a joke even before the UL change. The UL change is the nail in the coffin on that program.

  • @MoosesValley
    @MoosesValley หลายเดือนก่อน

    The most powerful motor allowed on an ebike where I live (Qld, Australia) is 250W - the power of which is virtually negated by the extra weight of an ebike. Would love an 750W (or better) ebike like the Blackbird, but not legal here ... yet. No sign of any ebike rebates here either. And we desperately need more bike lanes / bike paths in rural and other areas.

  • @iblackfeathers
    @iblackfeathers หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    why is the front fender so far away from the front tire? in comparison, the rear tire is close to the rear fender like in most other dual suspension e-bikes with fenders.

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thats due to the inverted fork design. Mechanical speaking it can't be mounted lower.

  • @erides
    @erides หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great Deal with good specs and from the good company

  • @bellyacres7846
    @bellyacres7846 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wow, just wow. . .
    UL? uh can we get a sticker ;)
    that black bird has my interest, Ive a step over & a step thru now.
    gee I prefer the step thru now that I have one.
    used to think its just a gurls style - then I got one and found I do like it.
    my next ebike needs to be a step thru and I prefer the twist throttle [seldom use it now, but like the twist]
    North Idaho is a bit of a drive or Id have come by as your ebikes and store really has my interest.
    Its just a bit of a drive for this old boy.

  • @jwebbw
    @jwebbw หลายเดือนก่อน

    What I know of CA is that they get their money to fund programs in July, so I was looking at the month of July for them to have the program approved.

  • @bruzza1
    @bruzza1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If I was to design one I would make it so you can take the key out and I would definitely have a layaway plan there is a few that have payment plans

  • @chrisolberz3308
    @chrisolberz3308 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very cool deal. Bummer I'm in Ireland ;-) I'd defo get on of them otherwise. Kudos to your business sense

  • @bruzza1
    @bruzza1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would think holes in the rims would make them weaker if you hit something to hard that is going to bend

    • @Wize817
      @Wize817 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Possibly double walled is strong and light?

  • @kevincolwell3066
    @kevincolwell3066 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone who is just starting to look into e-bikes do you have a suggestion on where to start.
    A little background if it helps. I was diagnosed with MS 8 years ago and my health as of about 3 years ago made it so I can no longer work. I currently can not afford a car and am looking for an alternative to get to doctors appointments (currently have to ask for rides or use Uber). Most of my doctors are within 15 miles one way. Cash is obviously very tight and looking to see if this could be a good alternative. Any suggestions on we’re to start looking would be greatly appreciated.

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're already in the right place! Area13ebikes.com

  • @carlu-dovica
    @carlu-dovica หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    An incredibly good idea for future ads. Promote your own product while slamming the corrupt government pukes at the same time. Love it! 🙂

  • @Greatgadgetsgear
    @Greatgadgetsgear หลายเดือนก่อน

    No rebates in my state. I wish they are expensive but fun.

  • @balloney2175
    @balloney2175 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The problem is that there is no real rebate.

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well there should be... but ya, not yet.

  • @SaltyDomeRat
    @SaltyDomeRat หลายเดือนก่อน

    Background noise compliments of Jory!

  • @jayobannon5359
    @jayobannon5359 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The problem is rebates. Just like subsidies, bond issues and fiat currency.

  • @_jurist
    @_jurist หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    So the rebate wasn’t for the consumers the rebate was for the e-bike sellers. Because that incentive is taking taxpayer money and put it in your pocket. The government needs to get out of all retail and quit effing with the market.

    • @jeffmpvd7689
      @jeffmpvd7689 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The government spends countless tax $$$ to repair roads and now deal with climate change (floods and fires) . The idea it's to get some people out of their cars in sunny CA and use a bike instead. A high percentage of car trips are under 3 miles, perfect for many on an eBike.

    • @_jurist
      @_jurist หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jeffmpvd7689 first of all if you actually believe climate change is a real thing, caused by CO2 then there’s no help for you. You are intentionally ignorant, an NPC.
      The governments responsibility is to do the infrastructure those things which an individual can’t do for themselves. Roads sewers, water and that’s it.

    • @HammerHed13
      @HammerHed13 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jeffmpvd7689 Sorry bud, e bikes will always be a recreational luxury device for 90% of the public. They will never replace the car. Some small trips are perfect for bikes but you cant carry much. Ask me how I know.

    • @disciprine
      @disciprine หลายเดือนก่อน

      The purpose of the rebate was for politicians to virtue signal they are doing something in California. It's complete BS

    • @petepop4319
      @petepop4319 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jeffmpvd7689 elec cars do twice the damage to roads

  • @monzell1443
    @monzell1443 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think I'm going to try to sell my ebike, and get this one. Quick question, why don't ebikes use lipo4 batteries? As far as I'm aware they are both cheaper, and last longer. Appreciate you.

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lifepo4 is a great chemistry. They are in fact safer and have longer cycle life. The issue is energy density. They take up much more space and are quite a bit heavier. You can fit about 2x the capacity in the same space with lithium ion.

  • @ELECTRICBIKEDIYLIFE
    @ELECTRICBIKEDIYLIFE หลายเดือนก่อน

    One problem I just thought of and this is not directed towards you. I think other ebike retailers will jack up the price of their bikes to take advantage of the voucher system and still make a profit up front from the customer. Let the gouging commence, but hopefully not. They should allow us to buy bikes from online retailers like amazon because you're going to get the best deal. A lot of us old school ebikers know how to get the best bang for your buck but noobs aren't going to have that knowledge and I'm afraid they're going to get taken advantage of.

  • @E-Ryders
    @E-Ryders หลายเดือนก่อน

    WHAT!? $1699......Now that's a Steal!
    We don't usually buy bikes, but if you have any used ones with miles on it or even banged up a bit you can discount more, we would love to review it on our channel.

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We do have a few refurbished bikes for even less.

  • @larryjanson4011
    @larryjanson4011 หลายเดือนก่อน

    with the threat of having to pay taxes each year to own it. reg with the dmv as a motor bike,
    forced insurance for a motor bike, the rider would need a motor bile permit and helmet.
    banned from ALL trails. that motorcycles can not use.
    can only use it on the same streets cars drive on, as in NO sidewalks were people walk.
    why bother.

  • @tomtribur458
    @tomtribur458 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And this is California. The purchaser would have to claim that free bike as income and pay income tax on it. I recently took a class provided by my employer that they had a value tied to. That value was included on my income tax.

  • @pecanset4390
    @pecanset4390 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Did u loose weight. Looking good 👍

  • @bruzza1
    @bruzza1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can get one for 8:50 that goes 28 mph, and when the dude did the speed test it went up to 30 750 watt motor

  • @leftjab6187
    @leftjab6187 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Vote out those city politicians for wasting time and money of the people...

  • @bruzza1
    @bruzza1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Still not worth the price why because it has bigger tires plus I don't like those kind of handlebars

    • @bradcamillo1966
      @bradcamillo1966 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And you can’t afford it 😂

  • @Timbodacious
    @Timbodacious หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    sucks. ul certification is sort of a joke because nobody ever physically inspects you bikes or batteries except for electrical diagrams on paper and maybe a few pictures of your electronics and bms.

    • @jeffmpvd7689
      @jeffmpvd7689 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Much better than nothing, no?

  • @bruzza1
    @bruzza1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And it doesn't even have a cassette protector

  • @Wize817
    @Wize817 หลายเดือนก่อน

    They should have just made the battery chargers and pack makers have UL approval as THATS what was causing the fires. People used mismatched chargers and low quality battery packs were the problem, not the ebikes. Now very FEW ebikes are gonna be approved on this Rebate list, screwing the buyer and the seller from even using it. Another thing that sucks is I read you cant use the rebate on any online retailer?! Cali govt really dont want us to use this "rebate" do they? 😅

    • @jeffmpvd7689
      @jeffmpvd7689 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They want the business benefit to go to CA bike shops not out of state online. Sounds reasonable to me.

    • @Wize817
      @Wize817 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jeffmpvd7689 Lol well if they gotta charge $3000 for $1000 bike I guess so 😅 This obviously has less to do with getting people on green ebikes and saving $ and more about benefitting some big players and costing the buyer more. Many of the local retailers sell online also! They all made in China! Many got offices and warehouses in CA so? 😆

  • @petepop4319
    @petepop4319 หลายเดือนก่อน

    if you pony up to newsom he'll put your bike on the list, just bake your own bread

  • @TheRickurb
    @TheRickurb หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    UL cert is a great idea, and should be mandatory, not just for rebates.

  • @steveklick
    @steveklick หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are the options for bikes they have now more expensive bikes or less affordable?

  • @jasonkrantz8946
    @jasonkrantz8946 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lol good deal dang

  • @jjboohoo9641
    @jjboohoo9641 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am so blessed not to live in California.

  • @disciprine
    @disciprine หลายเดือนก่อน

    The whole program is BS. The income requirements are pointless given the cost of living in California. People still won't use these as transportation replacements in California because of the non-bike friendly infrastructure. Whole thing is a waste of taxpayer dollars

    • @vinroc
      @vinroc 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      San Luis Obispo ,SF, and Berkeley have highly rated bike infrastructure for the US . I ride my bike about 30% of my trips .

  • @mrhawk2005
    @mrhawk2005 หลายเดือนก่อน

    a con

  • @harryhoesch3793
    @harryhoesch3793 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sounds like the non-UL certified bikes will be shipped out of California at a slight discount. Sounds safe for the government go at the moment. A national program sounds the way to go.

  • @chuckwolf9869
    @chuckwolf9869 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The problem is they need to make class 4 bikes with greater than 750 watts and a top speed of up to 40 mph as long as they are sold stock with fully functioning pedals legal and classified as bicycles, I don't see why my dual motor 2000 watt nominal/ 3000 watt peak, 21 speed fat tire mountain style ebike with a 35 mph top speed isn't considered a bicycle under the law

    • @bensonr2
      @bensonr2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Cause at 35 mph you are crossing into low powered motorcycle territory and those vehicles really should be registered and insured. You can really hurt someone at 35 mph.

    • @chuckwolf9869
      @chuckwolf9869 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bensonr2 oh hush, keep your opinion to yourself. if it has pedals it's a bicycle. if it didn't have pedals i'd agree then it would be a motorcycle, but if it can be pedaled it's a bicycle

    • @punkdigerati
      @punkdigerati หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're voicing an opinion and then telling people not to voice theirs.

  • @mikelaplante1837
    @mikelaplante1837 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Day 2 of asking for an ebike giveaway ❤

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Step 1. Start making videos. You need to put in the effort!

    • @mikelaplante1837
      @mikelaplante1837 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Area13ebikes i dont have a bike to review my friend

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@mikelaplante1837 just make a video about ebikes. Plenty of things you can do.

    • @Wize817
      @Wize817 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dude I seen your comment all over YT. You beggin for the most pricey/popular ebikes?! 😅 Just buy a cheap one or use a payment plan. They got some as low as $400 online or try scooters? Thats how most people start. At this point theres almost too many ebike reviewers, you have to be dedicated full time and do all the tests or not bother, most dont make much $, but good luck.

  • @Zetler
    @Zetler หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    CA have 5% unemployment, the highest in the nation. E-bike rebate gotta go.

    • @alexpuzzanghera5393
      @alexpuzzanghera5393 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's dumb this will help people get to work. Invest in working class people. Lower traffic for everyone

  • @bruzza1
    @bruzza1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude it's only worth a thousand

    • @Area13ebikes
      @Area13ebikes  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Then unfortunately you don't know about quality or bicycle components. You couldn't even buy the parts for 1k.

  • @WaffleStaffel
    @WaffleStaffel หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The larger companies who already have UL cert spread some money around. This sort of corruption is out in the open these days. Check out the story from the Edison Motors guy who's making electric semi-trucks. The person in the government who approves grants contacted him via a different email address turns out this person also runs a private company who writes grant applications/greases the skids for grants. th-cam.com/video/XkrJDCvDUrk/w-d-xo.html

    • @jeffmpvd7689
      @jeffmpvd7689 หลายเดือนก่อน

      EBikes are evolving. Do you think the California government wants to be held responsible for putting a bike in some family's hands with a big rebate only to have it start a fire in their home? UL certification is not perfect but a good start.

    • @WaffleStaffel
      @WaffleStaffel หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@jeffmpvd7689 Then why did they clam up when asked to explain the sudden change of heart? If it was all above board they should be happy to share. Honestly. _People like you are why so many still believe that Arabs with box cutters brought down _*_3_*_ skyscrapers..._