Cannon will either recuse herself or be forced out by the 11th Circuit Court. There's already precedent, they're the ones who ruled against her regarding the special master.
It really is incredible. I knew it would be disastrous, but i couldn't have imagined just how disastrous.. This guy is the worst thing to ever happen to this country, by far..
@@Bobbyb732 well arguably the Bush and Cheney regime was much more deadly and destructive, they literally killed over a million people based on total lies and disinformation...oh and Bush and Cheney pulled off an ACTUAL coup of the US government! So there's that...
That is the reason I never voted for Trump, I knew that it was an ego trip for him and I knew when he won on 2016 that when he lost in 2020 they would have to drag him out of the White House and he would take everything he could pack up and get away with.
Trump-"We should terminate the Constitution." Me-"Yes, now you have no rights or due process and we can now lock you up and let you rot in jail forever without consequence!"😅
That was his whole reason for his coup...the messed up part is his supporter don't understand if he was able to get votes flipped he wouldn't need them , after all you don't need voters if you have someone who will declare you winner when you actually lost
@@simonmultiverse6349 I doubt Trump even knew of any of those places existence when he was caught stealing at his gmas in ireland at 7 yo. He is self serving, hard stop.
The GOP should blame themselves for Trump's ultimate disgrace. The GOP should not have allowed Trump to get away with two criminal impeachments. The message Trump got from those two impeachment results is that I can get away with anything. The GOP will ALWAYS be there to give me the needed COVER. Period.
He can't use those big fancy college words at his rallies because it would cause confusion. You can forget about the cult members reading and comprehending the factual background and charges in the indictment.
But Lucy, u must be forgetting. Trump knows the best words and only hires tge best people even if they are as dumb as a rock. He truly is am embarrasment. A petulant child who has never had to face accountability well n I w he can rot in jail!!!
Millions? jared received billions, two to be exact, and the Saudis also reneged on a deal with Biden that would've lowered gas prices right before the election. Better to make us suffer so we'll vote for the guys who make us suffer more than the ones who are more apt to help us.
Everything you touch, Joy Reid, every group you put together, churns out high quality discussion and reviews. Excellent talk about the Trump indictment, the 'dark comedy'.
He had defense and weapons capabilities of both the U.S. and foreign countries; information about U.S. nuclear programs; potential vulnerabilities of the U.S. and its allies to military attacks; and plans for possible retaliation in response to a foreign attacks. The 4 countries most interested in that information are Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea. I am now convinced that he intended to sell the secrets...if he already hasn't.
I'll go out on a limb... Trump stole those documents to sell. No other reason It's possible, that whichever government purchased documents from trump, may now have buyers' remorse.
trump has to be imprisoned when found guilty. If not, every person in prison for a non-violent crime should be released as we would be known as a nation without laws.
Replace Trump’s name with Obama in every instance its mentioned in the indictment, Republicans would be foaming at the mouth demanding his immediate prosecution
Trump did not NEED to get himself into this situation. Trump now has a problem (probably A LOT of problems). I know he said that he could shoot someone dead on Fifth Avenue and get away with it, but... is he really that dumb? REALLY? *_REALLY_* ???
@@dennisharrell2236 …..or an historically unprecedented economic and military super power democracy ruled by its own people that blunder tragically and re elect him as their own president?
He refused to return the documents because he intended to use them to leverage power and to profit from them. It would be deliciously ironic, if the two things that he craves the most delivered his downfall.
His behavior is that of a malignant narcissist. This IS what they all do and say. *Zero conscience *Manipulative *Deceptive *Exploit others around them *Chronic liars/pathological lying *Vengeful *Zero empathy for others *NEVER, ever admit to their mistakes or crimes *Incapable of deep ties to ppl, only deals in transactional relationships. This is Dump; the narcissist and possibly sociopathic as well.
From page 23 of the indictment: On May 30, 2022, at 12:33 p.m., a Trump family member texted NAUTA: Good afternoon Walt, Happy Memorial Day! I saw you put boxes to Potus room. Just FYI and I will tell him as well: Not sure how many he wants to take on Friday on the plane. We will NOT have a room for them. Plane will be full with luggage. Thank you! NAUTA replied: Good Afternoon Ma’am [Smiley Face Emoji] Thank you so much. I think he wanted to pick from them. I don’t imagine him wanting to take the boxes. He told me to put them in the room and that he was going to talk to you about them.
I know you say sloppy storage but i suspect the “sloppy” storage was strategic so that the foreign operatives could easily access and photograph the contents. He is and has long been a russian agent.
There was some investigation a ways back into Russians planting attractive women to lure powerful men, as far back as from the 70s, and encourage them to run for office. It was to try and control, try and find info, and it pointed to both Ivana and Melania, and the weird ways they met donald.
The most important part of it being of his own doing is - his massive, grandiose ego that made him behave against his own best interests. That ego totally obliterated what every human being innately possesses - and that is self preservation
My mom retired from the State Department with a top secret clearance. If she’d done what Trump did. She would’ve been indicted and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Full stop.
It just makes you wonder, between January 2021 and June 2023, who visited Maralago, and did any of them use the bathroom - and more directly, did any of them use "this" particular bathroom.?
Not to mention, the "help" Dump hires. A foreign spy could get a job at MAGA-loco and really go to town!! Cameras today are very small and get all the details!!
@@turdferguson3475 oh, I have photos to prove it. You know, like someone today with a cell phone, who could easily upload the docs in s short time. Oh yeah, I was there.
Why would any President leaving office hold onto such documents? How many people leaving any job, would take home documents about their employers business ? The only possible reason for this behaviour, is that the person had thoughts about what they might do with the information. And with sensitive Government official records involved, this is worrying.
I don't live in the USA and I now understand the national security of the Five Eyes countries are in jeopardy because of the actions of the ex-president. I realize most people don't pay attention, or know, what those countries are. Search and find out. The security of NATO, EU, and others was undermined by those documents available for anyone visiting the home of the ex-president, even seeing piles of documents literally centre stage! Will this lower trust levels among allied countries, quite possibly. Yet some people defend the behaviour of the ex-president? That's both disgusting and horrifying to know how little they are concerned about international security reasons.
It's really sad! It's like a cult, they're willing to follow him through anything. Fortunately they're a minority, but still a lot, and they're very determined. Also, sadly, there are a lot of them not just in the US, but around the world. It's disturbed! But the majority of us are decent.
I've heard there's one in particular he took because he didn't want it to be seen by anyone else, a doc showing he ordered an attack on Iran that, fortunately, wasn't followed on. He's supposed to have wanted it to try and stay in power. The date of this wild be telling, like how close to January 6th it happened. But the rest, I'm sure he kept for bragging, and I autopsy out selling them, or using as a bribe-his-way-out-of-jail-free card. But it's also suspicious how jared kushner visited a Saudi prince, came back $2 billion richer, and the prince immediately reneged on an oil deal with Biden that would've lowered gas prices right before an election.
He actually endangered the whole world by keeping nuclear bomb information open like that. Rest of his life in prison is the only fair justice here, wouldn't you agree!?
What amazes me the most is that any of our allies are still willing to share even the time of day with us after this event, and even the most remote possibility that voters are willing to reelect Trump or replace him with a Trump Lite.
We will see. Judge loose Cannon has a lot of control. She can allow Dump to delay for quite awhile. She could even dismiss the case! Sounds insane but federal judges have a lot of power! This IS exactly why Mitch McConnell acted like a psychopath trying to maintain Rethuglicon senate control, like they had under Dump. 1000 judges all rightwing confirmed! And loose Cannon is Dump's sycophantic choice.
@@mile_high_topher ;After the DOJ Justice Department is done with tRUMP, sales of KFC and MacDonalds hamberders in and around Mar-A-Lardo will drastically fall.
@@mile_high_topherI've already got stock in orange jumpsuits, well, all colors. But that's just because in the future that's all anyone ever wears. Just look at all the futuristic space movies.
Why is the MAGA Judge Cannon being given this case? She could actually derail this entire case, she could delay this enough so that he gets re-elected. I’m blown away by this latest surreal development.
Thank you Joy MSNBC! Your appropriate and crucial coverage of these issues are the model for the other news channels. They fail miserably or neglect willfully.
The list of types of documents he had seem like something that Russia or North Korea would be interested in. We all knew when he kept saying the boxes were all secure and he had security guards was a huge lie, considering some were in the ballroom.
I don't think Russia or North Korea have enough money to meet trumps asking price. I think it's the Saudis ... They sure got to be buddy -buddy with trump.
@@alfredgeorge3186A woman who's most likely a Russian spy was at Mara Lago a whole bunch. But no worries, I'm sure she just stopped in to use the bathroom.
People commented after Ivana's burial at the golf course that for a creamated urn the pallbearers carry the casket looked like the casket had more than ashes in it. Why hasn't looked for the documents there?
@@marshamariner7897 ... Not our country 💭....she's buried in Scttland .... likely a bunch of international laws to consider. As usual: everything "Trump" just gets weirder & weirder......... 👀
This ugly conspiracy needs to stop. Why would Trump ever give his ex-wife anything? Why would Trump store documents in a place that was inaccessible? Most importantly, that woman is dead; let her rest in peace.
31 counts of the indictment relate to retaining individual documents. That is barely one third of all the documents they recovered under the search warrant. Some of the documents have their classification partial redacted. I have to assume the rest are so sensitive they can't even risk putting them in the indictment.
I really hope this is the one. I hope this is the one that gets him and he finally has to feel a consequence for his criminal lifestyle. This man doesn't know what it's like to be held accountable for anything. I hope they nail him to the wall.
@@natlegendlet's hope so....she could b the dominant factor in him NOT being guilty or sentenced right🍄🤡💩🤢🤮🤬...mayb in dc....she won't b around😵💫😵💫👾🥺🍄🤡💩🤢🤮🤬
I urge Trump lovers to read the entire indictment, but insert Biden`s name every place it says Trump, and then ask themselves if they would vote to convict Joe based on the information given.
They would indict Biden, in that example but remember you are talking about reasoning with a Rethuglicon. They all are infamous for their hypocrisy and lack of logic, facts and truth.
I heard a soundbite from somewhere "there is nothing in the US constitution that would prevent a President from serving their term from jail"... I only caught it in passing as it was on TV while I was in the kitchen and I laughed so hard I didn't hear anything said afterwards....but yea... Imagine that?😂 Actually....let's not.
It's true, sadly. I guess nobody ever thought they'd need to make it a rule. But I belive there is one in the 14th Amendment, or something, how if somebody tried to overthrow the government they can't hold public office. So that charge needs to doubly so stick.
In one of the many indictments issued pubically, Trump actually used some of the doctuments to show off his access to them, as well as make the few guests he showed off say "wow." he treated these senstive classified doctuments like a teen showing his friends the Playboy magazine he found from his dad's bedside drawers. This falls deep into the narsistic personaly disorder many doctors have stated by reviewing Trump's behavior pattens both in and out of office.
I think he might've wanted to cover up some stuff. I think there's some Intel showing he considered an attack on Iran or something, some horrific thing he almost did to try and stay in power. Then it became a game to him, bragging points, and he probably did use it some to try and make money. I want to know why jared kushner came back $2 billion richer after visiting an audio prince, who also reneged on a deal with Biden after that, that would've lowered gas prices right before an election.
I have avoided watching anything about Trump being my blood pressure goes way up at the mention of his name. I really get upset when I hear people talking about how much they love him. One of my dearest girlfriends of forty years, we met in college at SHSU in 1982. She is probably my closest girlfriend. We are both from Texas originally, I moved here to Colorado 26 years ago and she and her family actually moved here last summer for her husband's job. Plus her in-laws live retired here so they wanted to live closer to them. Pam and I get together pretty often to go do a shopping and for our dinner. She adores Trump and I LOATH him. I tried to keep my mouth shut and she doesn't bring him up around me so we've worked it out where he's a topic we avoid totally. I do like MSNBC and this topic caught my eye. I haven't kept up with what is going on with Trump, I'll find out later I would be so happy if he would be put in jail. Just the sound of his voice in the lies that come out of his mouth, I'll just wait till that's all over and not stress myself out. This was really interesting, I appreciate everything.
You know, since Dump was president, one site that aids Americans seeking to move out of America grew by 4000%. Our struggling democracy is on the line now. The night Dump lied and cheated to victory in 2016, I texted my rightwing neighbor, Karen. I told her I see no reason to continue our relationship. She specifically told me--warned me, not to ever bring up politics with her. Her husband, Stan, is a retired cop, also rightwing fanatic. He ORDERED Karen not to talk politics with me! She, being the conservative 2nd class citizen in her home, obeyed. I saw nothing of value in a relationship where we can't even discuss the fact her son is permanently disabled and receiving Social Security because it's political to Stan. I don't miss her. I certainly feel free now. Don't have to worry about making Stan mad. I'm happier.
It's going to be difficult to defend his behaviour after seeing how recklessly he treated these incredibly sensitive documents. Reading the indictment, it's clear that Trump thought himself to be above the law.
It's like finding your toddler with his hand in the cookie jar trying to get the last one out and instead of pulling his hand out saying "I didn't do it", he claims all the cookies are his.
There is such a celebratory mood of everyone. We've all been so traumatized by Trump .
They let a wolf in the henhouse. And there’s still no telling what damage he’s done with these docs
I too celebrated the indictments...then...I read them..
I don't think I will be sleeping too soundly.
LOCK HIM UP.
Whatever it takes to make sure he’s not in a position of power i the government again. He’s a security risk.
"We've all been so traumatized by Trump"........and THIS is why we call you snowflakes.
Absolutely!
Chelsea Manning got 35 years. Let's see if everyone really is treated equally before the law.
Yup! We’re about to see…
@@Los150 Teixeira was rounded up within hours. Ypur standards remain anomalous.
Very good point!!
Not the same case.... not even remotely close
He has been protected. I won't believe anything until he is arrested & put away.
I can't believe that people still support former guy, the evidence is there and yet his cult blindly follow him.
They will never own it. Who in their right mind could live with falling for such sheer stupidity?
In 2016 I said that I can't believe that anyone as corrupt as Trump would want the limelight of national politics shined on his shenanigans.
Because of AI? Is this the reason why big tech is panicking. That they lost control?
They aren't the majority, only the loudest, biggest idiots and insecure bullies.
@@laluba3603 dude that’s not the news, you have the Manchurian Candidate on. Change the channel
37 counts! Not 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 or 11 but 37 counts! Thats a lotta crimming on tRUMPs part.
So the current count is 71 felonies.
37 federal, 34 in NY.
And we are still waiting on Georgia.
I wonder if he'll hit 100 charges.
Yep! 45 is far behind in the rear view mirror!
@@petert3355 Fani might not get him over 100, but she might file over 100 total indictments against the more than dozen people she's investigating.
white women should not be in politics. they are not elevating. the right voices
@@petert3355 wait until he gets the GOP nomination! hundreds of indictments will be coming per day!
I believe Margie Green Taylor is a threat to our country as well!
Absolutely
It should be a crime to be as blunt and dumb as she is.
not sure about Margie Green Taylor, but Marjorie Taylor Green is a bit of a concern....her and her Jewish space lasers clearly can do enormous damage.
Majorie Trailer Queen exclaimed she could not remember her involvement in Jan 6 on video.
She’s a piece of work. That poor ex husband of hers.
DOJ needs to get the circus tent down in Florida tightened up. First thing, is sending Cannon back to traffic court or where ever she came from.
She was actually a prosecutor for the DOJ.
@@sdot5389 Make no mistake, she was groomed for her current lifetime position, She made a deal with an orange devil and his minion demons.
@@sdot5389 Under which president(s)?
Cannon will either recuse herself or be forced out by the 11th Circuit Court. There's already precedent, they're the ones who ruled against her regarding the special master.
@@mile_high_topher Who may be needed again to certify the general nature of the classified documents found.
I was shocked and dismayed when trump became president in 2016, but the fallout from his presidency has been far worse than I could have imagined.
It’s only the icing on the cake…
It really is incredible. I knew it would be disastrous, but i couldn't have imagined just how disastrous.. This guy is the worst thing to ever happen to this country, by far..
Yes. Nobody could foresee the pandemic and the mishandling by trump.
Yeah a lot of us feel that way 😕
@@Bobbyb732 well arguably the Bush and Cheney regime was much more deadly and destructive, they literally killed over a million people based on total lies and disinformation...oh and Bush and Cheney pulled off an ACTUAL coup of the US government! So there's that...
When will people understand that playing President was just a big game and grift for this guy.
Yeah, he ran for president to feed the ego and grow his brand, but didn’t intend to actually win.
@@starsalign9336 the dog that caught the car.
It seemed so obvious to some of us but others failed to see it.
@@arthurmee ; still fail to see it and continue to contribute to the grift!
That is the reason I never voted for Trump, I knew that it was an ego trip for him and I knew when he won on 2016 that when he lost in 2020 they would have to drag him out of the White House and he would take everything he could pack up and get away with.
Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were punished for far, far less
They were. 😢
Punished? They were executed
I believe Roy Cohn was working with father Trump during the years. Serendipitous?
@@poorthing I'll settle for that.
@@poorthing OK then >>> 'Rewarded" ?? are you happy now ??
Trump-"We should terminate the Constitution."
Me-"Yes, now you have no rights or due process and we can now lock you up and let you rot in jail forever without consequence!"😅
😭😅😅
That was his whole reason for his coup...the messed up part is his supporter don't understand if he was able to get votes flipped he wouldn't need them , after all you don't need voters if you have someone who will declare you winner when you actually lost
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I guess Trump got that idea from a nice gentle well-ordered humane country, like.... Saudi Arabia... or Russia ...or Myanmar ...or China... etc.
@@simonmultiverse6349 I doubt Trump even knew of any of those places existence when he was caught stealing at his gmas in ireland at 7 yo. He is self serving, hard stop.
The GOP should blame themselves for Trump's ultimate disgrace. The GOP should not have allowed Trump to get away with two criminal impeachments. The message Trump got from those two impeachment results is that I can get away with anything. The GOP will ALWAYS be there to give me the needed COVER. Period.
exactly.
@@lamdao1242 in friendly
The oppression of prison is what he wants" give it to him" Benedict Dumpster
Too true💯💯💯💯
Obsoletely true
I still couldn’t believe US had a President with the vocabulary of a 5yrs.old.
And a brain 🧠 to match.
It's so his supporters can understand him.
He can't use those big fancy college words at his rallies because it would cause confusion. You can forget about the cult members reading and comprehending the factual background and charges in the indictment.
But Lucy, u must be forgetting. Trump knows the best words and only hires tge best people even if they are as dumb as a rock. He truly is am embarrasment. A petulant child who has never had to face accountability well n I w he can rot in jail!!!
Juvenile delinquent
He was expecting to receive millions of dollars for those documents and not prison time.
Putin was giddy thinking about it. He probably got everything he want to know from Gump already.
Maybe the Saudis already got info they wanted.
Millions? jared received billions, two to be exact, and the Saudis also reneged on a deal with Biden that would've lowered gas prices right before the election. Better to make us suffer so we'll vote for the guys who make us suffer more than the ones who are more apt to help us.
But you are right
Even better to bring him to his knees in any way we can now.
Based on the number of "Truths" "Truthed" today, Trump has gone through three packs of Depends in the last 24 hours.
And no social media outbursts - he must be shell shocked - even for the draft dodger he is.
How much ketchup is now wallpaper?
@@livelife4471 Last I heard he was over thirty knock off tweets today.
David Packman calls them "Troaths" which somehow sounds more appropriate.
😂😂😂😂😂
Everything you touch, Joy Reid, every group you put together, churns out high quality discussion and reviews. Excellent talk about the Trump indictment, the 'dark comedy'.
2:45 Yeah but she mixed up Bewitched and I Dream of Jeannie. 4 stars.
And truth
@Jay Gatsby No she was right, Bewitched had the nose twinkle, and I Dream Of Jeannie had the head bob thing.
They need to exhume Ivana and see what Donnie stuffed in her casket.
I bet Trump put that love letter from Kim in therein lieu of an actual eulogy
Her cremated remains were placed in a full size casket that 10 men carried. So what else is in Ivana's casket?
@nancyevans2689I saw her at a restaurant the other day with Elvis.
@@beebuzz959 I saw her with Whitney Houston and Amy winehouse
@Nancy Evans Jimi Hendrix was there jamming on the guitar with Prince
Great reporting, Joy! Thank you!
He had defense and weapons capabilities of both the U.S. and foreign countries; information about U.S. nuclear programs; potential vulnerabilities of the U.S. and its allies to military attacks; and plans for possible retaliation in response to a foreign attacks. The 4 countries most interested in that information are Russia, China, Iran, and North Korea. I am now convinced that he intended to sell the secrets...if he already hasn't.
I'll go out on a limb...
Trump stole those documents to sell.
No other reason
It's possible, that whichever government purchased documents from trump, may now have buyers' remorse.
It’s not about selling them with him, but elevating his own self worth, as pitiful that it is, just like a middle school bully.
@@mendyviola He's a sick person then.
The single most dangerous man on the planet in my opinion!
@@mackydog99 Putin comes close!
What happened to the aid who had copies of these documents on a laptop and who were they shared with?
That wasn’t Kash Patel? he has partial immunity for some reason
It's all about "The Art of the Steal" !
😂😂
Well, he's definitely the fart of it.
The UK loves President Biden.❤❤
We love you Brits, too!
Ppl with common sense and taste. Nice. ❤
Lot of morons in the UK love Trump, mostly Brexiters.
trump has to be imprisoned when found guilty. If not, every person in prison for a non-violent crime should be released as we would be known as a nation without laws.
...and not a "country club" prison.
Watching *Ms Reid* present
breaking news gives me *JOY* 😊
" In my administration, I'm going to enforce all laws concerning the protection of classified information. NO ONE WILL BE ABOVE THE LAW! " ~ DJT
Do as I say......
EXCEPT MEEEE!
Lies, lies and more lies.
Every Rethuglicon always means the opposite of whatever they say or promise!! Don't we all know that by now?!
Replace Trump’s name with Obama in every instance its mentioned in the indictment, Republicans would be foaming at the mouth demanding his immediate prosecution
obama was not that stupid
Right!! They would have loved to hear that!
Exactly! they would immediately shut down the thought of a potential Uprising if the shoe was on the other foot.
Probably execution
Prosecution?? Shiiiiiid those mfers would be calling for a public firing squad. These dolts were inflamed over a TAN SUIT 🤣
There is no reason for Trump not to be indicted
TRUMP SHOULD ALREADY BE BEHIND BARS AWAITING TRAIL RIGHT NOW!!!!
HE SHOULD NOT BE A FREE MAN RIGHT NOW.
Exactly. He *doesn't* have money.
He's not a member of the ruling elite, he just pretends to be.
Trump did not NEED to get himself into this situation. Trump now has a problem (probably A LOT of problems). I know he said that he could shoot someone dead on Fifth Avenue and get away with it, but... is he really that dumb? REALLY? *_REALLY_* ???
@John Grey But would that movie be a political crime drama, or a comedy about an inept fool who keeps screwing up everything he attempts?
@@dennisharrell2236 …..or an historically unprecedented economic and military super power democracy ruled by its own people that blunder tragically and re elect him as their own president?
Did you see all those boxes?!?
We were bout to get sold up the river!😢😮
This man Trump is like that kid at school who is always at the Principal's office.
Well, it's time to expel him.
Wonder who the other members of The Supermax Breakfast Club will be.
ii'm sure he was. he punched a female teacher in the face for grading his paper accurately, he failed. little punk.
And never being truly held to account for being an obnoxious and cruel bully.
Yes 🥴😆
Half our country sees a strong leader. I see a terror, a traitor, and a lost angry little boy.
@@thebilboshow168 I'd be more concerned with what's happened to your brain over the last 8 years. Swiss cheese.
I see a mop fro NY, loving Putin and Xi, Trump would love to be the king of America, so he can do what ever he wants, scam people,
@@mile_high_topher
Go buy one of your leaders new T shirts. That is his new grift. Hope you did not miss out on trump bucks🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@tonythornley6270 😂
@@tonythornley6270 Mile high guy isn’t a Trump supporter.
He refused to return the documents because he intended to use them to leverage power and to profit from them. It would be deliciously ironic, if the two things that he craves the most delivered his downfall.
There's speculation there's evidence he also kept to cover up an attempted attack on Iran. I guess it was too try and stay in power.
Joy you're reporting brings me joy on Donald Trump😅😊
He's like a 2-year-old. Mine, mine, mine, mine!!
His behavior is that of a malignant narcissist. This IS what they all do and say.
*Zero conscience
*Manipulative
*Deceptive
*Exploit others around them
*Chronic liars/pathological lying
*Vengeful
*Zero empathy for others
*NEVER, ever admit to their mistakes or crimes
*Incapable of deep ties to ppl, only deals in transactional relationships.
This is Dump; the narcissist and possibly sociopathic as well.
LOCK HIM UP
Trump always projects himself onto others. He thinks he can make things how he wants them to be rather than reality.
If his wife knew about all this, is she in trouble too as an accomplice?
Yes.
Fingers crossed eh?
From page 23 of the indictment:
On May 30, 2022, at 12:33 p.m., a Trump family member texted NAUTA:
Good afternoon Walt,
Happy Memorial Day!
I saw you put boxes to Potus room. Just FYI and I
will tell him as well:
Not sure how many he wants to take on Friday on the
plane. We will NOT have a room for them. Plane will
be full with luggage.
Thank you!
NAUTA replied:
Good Afternoon Ma’am [Smiley Face Emoji]
Thank you so much.
I think he wanted to pick from them. I don’t imagine
him wanting to take the boxes.
He told me to put them in the room and that he was
going to talk to you about them.
Naaa, she was clueless, she just wanted to be pretty.
@@stevepitts7998 We don’t know what family member texted that. My speculation was Ivanka or Melania, but we don’t know.
Great job Joy! Love MSNBC! Truth Seeker’s!
Love the unnecessary apostrophe!
BREAKING NEWS...
June 9, 2023 has just been named 'Lock Him Up' a National Holiday.
😂😂😂😂..priceless
@@karenjacobson552 Thanks for comment
I know you say sloppy storage but i suspect the “sloppy” storage was strategic so that the foreign operatives could easily access and photograph the contents. He is and has long been a russian agent.
There was some investigation a ways back into Russians planting attractive women to lure powerful men, as far back as from the 70s, and encourage them to run for office. It was to try and control, try and find info, and it pointed to both Ivana and Melania, and the weird ways they met donald.
He's too stupid to be an agent. 😂
I believe you are correct.
I STILL UNDERSTAND!!
WHY ????????????????
HE'S NOT IN JAIL YET !!
PLEASE!! SOMEONE HAVE TO LOCK 🔐!! THIS CLOWN 🤡
Yes, he absolutely needs indicted for the tackiness of MAL.
I really like this man Smith. No words outside of facts!
The most important part of it being of his own doing is - his massive, grandiose ego that made him behave against his own best interests. That ego totally obliterated what every human being innately possesses - and that is self preservation
The word is “reckless”, not “cavalier” or “sloppy”.
Willful and Wanton lots of words or terms apply
The result is the same.
My mom retired from the State Department with a top secret clearance. If she’d done what Trump did. She would’ve been indicted and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Full stop.
All he needs is 11,780 days in jail
I like that!!🤣👏👏👏🥂
"I sometimes have to flush 5,8,15 times, or more!!!"
It just makes you wonder, between January 2021 and June 2023, who visited Maralago, and did any of them use the bathroom - and more directly, did any of them use "this" particular bathroom.?
There was a woman there who seems most likely to be a Russian spy. I'm betting she ate some shrimp or something and had a lot of "bad diarrhea "
Inna Yashchyshyn, pretended to be Anna de Rothschild, in case anyone wants to look it up.
Not to mention, the "help" Dump hires. A foreign spy could get a job at MAGA-loco and really go to town!! Cameras today are very small and get all the details!!
I want to know why his secret service detail isn't in prison
Probably because they lost the incriminating evidence, by total accident, when asked to hand it over.
They erased all evidence of their crimes.
Julius and Ethel Rosenberg were executed for far less
I attended a wedding reception at Mar A Lago. To think I could be walking around there, and find boxes of top secret classified documents...insane.
But you didn't.
@@turdferguson3475 oh, I have photos to prove it. You know, like someone today with a cell phone, who could easily upload the docs in s short time. Oh yeah, I was there.
Why would any President leaving office hold onto such documents? How many people leaving any job, would take home documents about their employers business ? The only possible reason for this behaviour, is that the person had thoughts about what they might do with the information. And with sensitive Government official records involved, this is worrying.
And, equally disturbing, it's speculated he didn't want it used against him that he almost started a war with Iran to try and stay in power.
Happy Indictment Day. 🎉 MAGA means Make Accountability Great Again. 😊 Trump for prison 20-24.
I don't live in the USA and I now understand the national security of the Five Eyes countries are in jeopardy because of the actions of the ex-president. I realize most people don't pay attention, or know, what those countries are. Search and find out.
The security of NATO, EU, and others was undermined by those documents available for anyone visiting the home of the ex-president, even seeing piles of documents literally centre stage!
Will this lower trust levels among allied countries, quite possibly. Yet some people defend the behaviour of the ex-president? That's both disgusting and horrifying to know how little they are concerned about international security reasons.
It's really sad! It's like a cult, they're willing to follow him through anything. Fortunately they're a minority, but still a lot, and they're very determined. Also, sadly, there are a lot of them not just in the US, but around the world. It's disturbed! But the majority of us are decent.
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I have a feeling he wanted to sell them
If hevdidnt already 🍄🤡😵💫🤢🤮🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
I've heard there's one in particular he took because he didn't want it to be seen by anyone else, a doc showing he ordered an attack on Iran that, fortunately, wasn't followed on. He's supposed to have wanted it to try and stay in power. The date of this wild be telling, like how close to January 6th it happened.
But the rest, I'm sure he kept for bragging, and I autopsy out selling them, or using as a bribe-his-way-out-of-jail-free card.
But it's also suspicious how jared kushner visited a Saudi prince, came back $2 billion richer, and the prince immediately reneged on an oil deal with Biden that would've lowered gas prices right before an election.
He actually endangered the whole world by keeping nuclear bomb information open like that. Rest of his life in prison is the only fair justice here, wouldn't you agree!?
And he'd need to be in solitary because he can't keep his mouth shut.
You don't even need to ask.
What amazes me the most is that any of our allies are still willing to share even the time of day with us after this event, and even the most remote possibility that voters are willing to reelect Trump or replace him with a Trump Lite.
That's why they are called cultists. Think Charles Manson's gang or Jim Jones tribe.
He's weaseled out of all his other crimes, but not this time, the wheel of karma comes around.
We will see. Judge loose Cannon has a lot of control. She can allow Dump to delay for quite awhile. She could even dismiss the case! Sounds insane but federal judges have a lot of power!
This IS exactly why Mitch McConnell acted like a psychopath trying to maintain Rethuglicon senate control, like they had under Dump. 1000 judges all rightwing confirmed! And loose Cannon is Dump's sycophantic choice.
Well done Smith and his team. From the other side of the Atlantic you’ve renewed my belief in your justice system. There’s hope.
You may want to rethink that, Judge Aileen Cannon has been given the case.
Who did he sell those file from the empty folders to? Will this come out in the trial?
Depends and Heinz stock is booming!
Hide the Ketchup
Dump your stock in hairspray, he won't be allowed any in super max.
@@annedonk6060 And tangerine spray tan! Sell sell sell!
@@mile_high_topher ;After the DOJ Justice Department is done with tRUMP, sales of KFC and MacDonalds hamberders in and around Mar-A-Lardo will drastically fall.
@@mile_high_topherI've already got stock in orange jumpsuits, well, all colors. But that's just because in the future that's all anyone ever wears. Just look at all the futuristic space movies.
Hillary's email scandal looks like a parking infraction next to Trumps Treason-Lago!
Charles is right! If Donnie Boy had just turned all these documents over immediately we would not be sitting here talking about it.
Will there be a firing squad, and will they allow witnesses 🎉😊
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May I be a trigger man?
Why is the MAGA Judge Cannon being given this case? She could actually derail this entire case, she could delay this enough so that he gets re-elected. I’m blown away by this latest surreal development.
Don't worry, she won't be around for long. She'll be removed on appeal.
DOJ will probably recuse her..
She wouldn't dare....
The entire world will be watching
It was a luck of the draw on her part.
@@natlegend She should have been removed already.
It's more about taking the documents in the first place.
It's more about him not returning them and how he handled them.
Oh boy, I love the pace of this gritty lowdown crime story- the denouement, I feel, will be mindblowing, and the sentencing as well🇺🇸💙
I might smile after I see Rump in that guilty wardrobe.
I can't imagine the expenses to American taxpayers over this massive security breach!!!!
Thank you for such a great panel Joy! 👍
Thanks,gang ! 🇱🇷
These people are laughing because the entire situation is so ridiculously horrific.
No one could dream this nightmare up.
Thank you Joy MSNBC! Your appropriate and crucial coverage of these issues are the model for the other news channels. They fail miserably or neglect willfully.
She’s great at reading a prompter like Biden smh. A 5th grader could do her job.
The list of types of documents he had seem like something that Russia or North Korea would be interested in.
We all knew when he kept saying the boxes were all secure and he had security guards was a huge lie, considering some were in the ballroom.
I don't think Russia or North Korea have enough money to meet trumps asking price.
I think it's the Saudis ... They sure got to be buddy -buddy with trump.
@@alfredgeorge3186A woman who's most likely a Russian spy was at Mara Lago a whole bunch. But no worries, I'm sure she just stopped in to use the bathroom.
Thanks Joy 👍
I laugh out loud every time I hear Donald Trump whine .. he's an innocent man !!
Trump
Pampers need changing.
❤. NSW. ❤. We keep. Doomed. J. Trump. Fracking. Stuff. Immediately after the new. Shot iasertmas. Are. Marking. Ringland. Offers
When you add up all the potential penalties for state and federal crimes he faces could amount to longer than he has been alive. Net Zero!
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Just finished listening to the charges on the Bulwark. I feel sick.
People commented after Ivana's burial at the golf course that for a creamated urn the pallbearers carry the casket looked like the casket had more than ashes in it. Why hasn't looked for the documents there?
EXACTLY!!!
To quote Keith Olbermann, "Never mind lock her up, dig her up!".
People STILL say....dig her up....THAT is a tricky one...if national security is a risk...a warrent mayb needed....this is new🍄🤡💩🤢🤮🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤡💩
@@marshamariner7897 ... Not our country 💭....she's buried in Scttland .... likely a bunch of international laws to consider.
As usual: everything "Trump" just gets weirder & weirder......... 👀
This ugly conspiracy needs to stop. Why would Trump ever give his ex-wife anything? Why would Trump store documents in a place that was inaccessible? Most importantly, that woman is dead; let her rest in peace.
ONE INDICTMENT FOR EVERY CRIME. THAT IS THE LAW OF THE LAND. NO MORE NO LESS.
31 counts of the indictment relate to retaining individual documents. That is barely one third of all the documents they recovered under the search warrant. Some of the documents have their classification partial redacted. I have to assume the rest are so sensitive they can't even risk putting them in the indictment.
Charges are regularly merged, the law of the land is RARELY "one for one". I get the desire but what you're saying is simply not true 💓
All he had to do was give them back but nooo.
I really hope this is the one. I hope this is the one that gets him and he finally has to feel a consequence for his criminal lifestyle. This man doesn't know what it's like to be held accountable for anything. I hope they nail him to the wall.
2 1/2 years for sn indictment, and Aileen Cannon will be presiding . What a waste of time.
Don't worry, she won't be anywhere near this trial. Thankfully she's already shown her prejudice, and will be removed immediately on appeal.
@@natlegend That Cannon should have been fired months back. Typical sloppy Joe, slow, thick and wet.
@@natlegendlet's hope so....she could b the dominant factor in him NOT being guilty or sentenced right🍄🤡💩🤢🤮🤬...mayb in dc....she won't b around😵💫😵💫👾🥺🍄🤡💩🤢🤮🤬
It is appalling, incomprehensible. The USA cannot be considered great if it behaves like this.
@@JelMainI think she had to be disbarred, right? Not sure, but I think federally adjoined judges are hard to get rid of.
I urge Trump lovers to read the entire indictment, but insert Biden`s name every place it says Trump, and then ask themselves if they would vote to convict Joe based on the information given.
They would indict Biden, in that example but remember you are talking about reasoning with a Rethuglicon.
They all are infamous for their hypocrisy and lack of logic, facts and truth.
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Please refresh my memory, who was it that requested a special counsel to oversee the document case in the first place ?
Terrific discussion!!
I bet his supporters are “so sick of all this winning”!🤣
A charge of espionage requires remand.
A gallows, perhaps.
@@mile_high_topher I'm against the death penalty, but since trump isn't... maybe they can use the one they made for Pence.
This Frump needs enhanced interrogation... What did you do traitor?
@@AccelerateYourSuccess I mean... The Rosenbergs.
I heard a soundbite from somewhere "there is nothing in the US constitution that would prevent a President from serving their term from jail"...
I only caught it in passing as it was on TV while I was in the kitchen and I laughed so hard I didn't hear anything said afterwards....but yea...
Imagine that?😂
Actually....let's not.
It's true, sadly. I guess nobody ever thought they'd need to make it a rule. But I belive there is one in the 14th Amendment, or something, how if somebody tried to overthrow the government they can't hold public office. So that charge needs to doubly so stick.
Why? I don’t want to just think he was gonna sell them to Russia or the highest bidder. But why did he keep them
In one of the many indictments issued pubically, Trump actually used some of the doctuments to show off his access to them, as well as make the few guests he showed off say "wow."
he treated these senstive classified doctuments like a teen showing his friends the Playboy magazine he found from his dad's bedside drawers.
This falls deep into the narsistic personaly disorder many doctors have stated by reviewing Trump's behavior pattens both in and out of office.
To boost his own ego?
I think he might've wanted to cover up some stuff. I think there's some Intel showing he considered an attack on Iran or something, some horrific thing he almost did to try and stay in power. Then it became a game to him, bragging points, and he probably did use it some to try and make money. I want to know why jared kushner came back $2 billion richer after visiting an audio prince, who also reneged on a deal with Biden after that, that would've lowered gas prices right before an election.
*Saudi prince
I have avoided watching anything about Trump being my blood pressure goes way up at the mention of his name. I really get upset when I hear people talking about how much they love him. One of my dearest girlfriends of forty years, we met in college at SHSU in 1982.
She is probably my closest girlfriend. We are both from Texas originally, I moved here to Colorado 26 years ago and she and her family actually moved here last summer for her husband's job. Plus her in-laws live retired here so they wanted to live closer to them.
Pam and I get together pretty often to go do a shopping and for our dinner.
She adores Trump and I LOATH him.
I tried to keep my mouth shut and she doesn't bring him up around me so we've worked it out where he's a topic we avoid totally.
I do like MSNBC and this topic caught my eye. I haven't kept up with what is going on with Trump, I'll find out later I would be so happy if he would be put in jail. Just the sound of his voice in the lies that come out of his mouth, I'll just wait till that's all over and not stress myself out.
This was really interesting, I appreciate everything.
Hang in there, this mess will probably be blasted everywhere for a while. Maybe try to meditate? Anyhow, good luck!
You know, since Dump was president, one site that aids Americans seeking to move out of America grew by 4000%.
Our struggling democracy is on the line now.
The night Dump lied and cheated to victory in 2016, I texted my rightwing neighbor, Karen. I told her I see no reason to continue our relationship.
She specifically told me--warned me, not to ever bring up politics with her. Her husband, Stan, is a retired cop, also rightwing fanatic. He ORDERED Karen not to talk politics with me! She, being the conservative 2nd class citizen in her home, obeyed.
I saw nothing of value in a relationship where we can't even discuss the fact her son is permanently disabled and receiving Social Security because it's political to Stan.
I don't miss her. I certainly feel free now. Don't have to worry about making Stan mad.
I'm happier.
Joy slipped on her words and called him Clump which is perfect.
I've always called him Dump. He deserves zero respect.
Feel free to add to this discussion maga trolls
Lol, I was thinking about that too!, but all I hear is crickets...it's so troubling that so many folks were entranced by this two bit hustler
It's kind of nice not hearing about Hillary's emails, Hunter's laptop, or Biden's docs he had "no right to have".
It's going to be difficult to defend his behaviour after seeing how recklessly he treated these incredibly sensitive documents. Reading the indictment, it's clear that Trump thought himself to be above the law.
The would have been one extra box of top secret documents in the toilet but apparently the guests ran out of toilet paper. Security at it's finest.
This isn't a (political) game anymore. This is a matter of security for the US. For the whole planet!
Exactly. No one should minimize the potential damage.
the smirk alone on Lawrence was the best part
The man who knew no responsibility
I couldn’t be happier to see a criminal brought to justice!
It's like finding your toddler with his hand in the cookie jar trying to get the last one out and instead of pulling his hand out saying "I didn't do it", he claims all the cookies are his.
Analogy is funny but not accurate. Nothing funny about nuclear secrets given out to foreign spies! And nuclear secrets aren't cookies.
Mar-A-Lardo not Mar-A-Lago!
I vote for "Mag-a-Lardo." 😂
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Mar-A-Dump🍄🤢🤮🤬🤡💩
I bet Donald knew he would throw Nauta under the bus the day he hired him.