Can You Hear The Difference Between Cheap And Expensive Pianos? (N. 3)
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- Can you hear the difference between cheap and expensive pianos? (N. 3)
I started the video by playing in a cheap piano, and then in the more expensive ones. I played 5 different pianos. Can you hear any difference in sound? Which one has the best sound?
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I never knew that I'd be able to hear "you can't afford this" so clearly with my ears
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Aaaah, friend, your joke made my day!!!
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Same
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I'm blown away at how noticeable the sound difference is in piano quality. What a great video.
Wait what? This is a joke right? Did you actually hear a difference? I thought this was supposed to show that how much you invested into your piano didn't matter??
Please let me know if you can actually hear the difference
@@brentenyam9193 I can the notes of the more expensive piano has more depth in it's sound and tails off more. Idk the exact terminology as I'm not a pianist. He just plays so well that its hard to notice but it's there. The cheaper one is a bit idk twangy and a bit too high pitched I feel as well.
I agree with you on a few of them, but between most I couldn't tell a difference not to mention hearing a recording uploaded to TH-cam. I did hear change between a few of them tho and the sound was amazing mly better, bores sounded cleaner and reverbed better, the notes sounded better for sure
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The higher priced ones don‘t have much difference except for their age and intended use i guess and how they sound in the end is also heavily dependent on where the piano stands, so this isn‘t exactly a good video for comparison.
f.e. the 1200 sounded pretty cheap to me while the 600 was perfect sound quality.
@@brentenyam9193 the sound quality difference isn't as noticeable as the difference between the low end and slightly above it...
But that's where build quality, materials, feel, etc come in.
the very used barthol and berlin actually sounded really good
definitely the best value of the bunch
Glad it's not just me. I thought it had lovely resonance.
Agree
The last one looks like you get a free sample piece of the piano without paying for the full subscription😂😂
Piano by E.A. .
Piano from wish
Piano dlc & loot boxes
"we have a piano at home".
The piano:
The last piano is the Ubisoft subscription to World of Pianos.
Before I bought my house in 2014 I did a walk through. The previous owner had a piano in his living room. I had mentioned to him that I’ve played piano since I was 12. He immediately asked me to sit behind this gorgeous piano and play something for him. So I played Aladdin’s “A Whole New World” and I thought I did fairly well considering I don’t play every day. He was so polite lol... He then talked a little about the piano and that it was a Louis XVI style Gbaby grand piano. He then sat and played what he told me was an original piece. I was floored, this man played that piano as if he was playing for the POTUS lol... when he was done he pulled out a document and turned to the third page that showed he had paid $132,000 for this piano and that it was insured for $160,000. I looked around and asked: “But how did you get it into this house and how do you plan to get it out?” He explained that in just a few hours a private company would be here to start dismantling it. That it all would be carefully packed and shipped down to Florida where he had already bought a new house. He looked like he was about to cry and I asked him if he was ok. He said that he had never been so nervous in his life and that he feared something would happen to his piano. It made it down there safely. I felt so honored to play it.
@@Rhamirezz85 President Of The United States
@@Rhamirezz85 idk, it's Murica
I'm glad you clarified that the piano was okay. Reading that was emotional... It's also 3 am
@@Rhamirezz85 that's a very, very common abbreviation
I'm Australian and I'm familiar with POTUS
The biggest difference for me was the upgrade to the $8K Yamaha upright. Beyond that the sound quality upgrade was smaller while the price went up exponentially.
Agreed. The $8,000 Yamaha was where it got good. I can tell differences all the way up to the quarter million piano as a layman, but going beyond the $17k GB1 doesn't seem to offer enough of a difference to warrant the massive price jumps. 🤷🏻♂️ $8k is an affordable premium unit for a serious player, it seems. The audience will likely be normal people and it will sound beautiful to us without a doubt while not breaking the bank and not causing someone to cry if it gets lost in a tornado. 😺
same here
Almost all of that difference was simply that as a new piano, it was properly tuned. The pianos before that could be fixed up to sound essentially the same with a tuning and in the case of the first piano, fixing that broken key.
Same, that was a dramatic difference
This is true with more products than pianos.
80% of the quality is between the cheapest brand and mid line.
You can observe this yourself in everyday things like toilet paper. Not only do you get more, it’s higher quality. Buying the ultra cheapo stuff just means you use more and buy it more often.
The fact that an expensive piano nearly a century old can sound so good just makes the clearest point no one can argue.
I love how he keeps looking at the camera as to say "SEE!"
Yamaha really knows how to make some lovely sounding pianos, don't they.
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And Yamaha makes a LOT of different things. This was parodied in (the original) _RoboCop_ when a commercial in the movie said you could get a Yamaha artificial heart.... 🤣
69 likes, nice!
In the 70ies we had a kawai, iirc. Similar.
Sounds metallic to me. A Steinway is good, but nothing beats Bösendorfer - if you can afford it 😉 (up to half a million)
The Yamaha Upright definitely was the biggest jump in quality to me, everything after that sounded really good but was a much subtler difference imo.
Good god it sounds so good in comparison to the first ones
"Everything after was subtle"
3:44 is that right??
I thought he might have used a different microphone o record the video. The difference hit so hard!!!
Agreed
@@sarinaagarwal4949 it is subtle. If a brick was subtle.
I usually watch these without looking. I really liked the first two, but had to click over and come see the Yacht one. Because that was breathtaking. The look of it pleasingly matched the sound quality, too.
I got a beautiful piano from my parents when I was young child and gave it forward to younger people in my family some years ago. No two piano's sound the same and that makes all piano's unique and special.
I love the added equivalent price comparisons for pianos
and little details like _"alarm included"_ or _"preferably blue"_ are cherry on top of a cake
Who puts a cherry on top their cake lmao
With a tuned horn haha
here in brazil we used to punch each other when we see a blue beetle as kids.
@@rafaelbaldoni3711 here in New York State my kids had "Punch Bugs" - a car with one headlight.
Chanel bag - empty 😅😅
Whether it's a cheap or an expensive piano, Vinheteiro plays just as good either way.
Bruh , will you get a mustache finally LMAO
like that if u think this guys everywhere
I had a friend name "Just some guy with a Mustache"
Isn’t at some point ~5000-8,000 it is more about how long it will stay tuned vs how often you have to tune it the big gap between those and 15k pianos? IDK just a random thought.
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seen this done with guitars. glad you did this video. very apparent the piano at home verses hearing the pianist at the C.S.O.
Man i love how this guy just made 6 million subs only with a piano and his pure talent and no clickbaits
Man you are a legend
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Nó he made 6 million subs with many piano
No clickbait?
Well, I don't know. That trap piano price was a little clickbaity. The most realistic price was the penultimate piano he showed.
Stares...
I've just read many of the very valid comments, but one I haven't seen; man, the quality of Yamaha instruments across their full price spectrum is remarkable and, particularly at their lower-to-mid range, are exceptional value for money - which is where they'll make the majority of their sales.
Their marketing strategy has nailed it, imo.
Beautiful brand, Yamaha
You ever rip a peewee 50? Those guys know what their doing
@@yeahitskimmel I've no idea what you're talking about - but as an early GenX dude, I fully accept that I'm probably not down with the kids. ;) Still, I'm just basing my comment on my experience and what's right here in the vid, mate.
The Yamaha concert grand, remarkable
Agreed, Yamaha makes good pianos.
Love your comparisons… beautiful playing
in person the difference is much greater. i work in a 170yr old building that has many pianos. we recently cleared out the un-named lower grade ones but kept a few that are classic uprights like Heintzman's and Steinway and Sons. the sound of them stands above the ordinary pianos. we also have a Steinway baby grand and also a c.bechstein 9ft concert piano. even though we also have some new electric pianos and a new upright, the best players always prefer the old premium ones.
I love how he looks into the camera.
He’s like “you hearing this shit?”
His facial expression is killing me 😆😭😄😂🤣
He's thinking..... you hearing this Schmidt ? 😂
😂
Exactly ☺
Same thought😂
For those wondering (like I was), the name of the piece he’s playing is Nocturne in C sharp minor by Chopin ❤️
Thankyou!
The irony for me is that I could tell each piano, except the pleyel. Which Chopin... played pleyel. And I love chopin, and I've played steinways, boes, and pleyels. Still to this day, though, I love the feel and sound of pleyels.
Nocturne #2 e flat op9 no2
@@mohaz7187 Nocturne n°20 C sharp minor
Thanks!
I was on tour years ago, known as a trumpet player, classically trained, but well known commercially. I had a gimmic, that I finaled all my shows doing an arrangement of my own on the Grand Piano. All evening, center stage, the grand piano was lit, nobody played it. I stood just in front, with many different trumpets and entertained them. We had just pulled into West Palm Beach Florida, as usual not much time, we got everythign arranged, including the piano. That night I sat down, and everything sounded UNBELIEVABLY AMAZING. I mean, I was heaven, I could not believe the sounds from that instrument. Well, my arrangements went from the bottom to the top, I played every key with my runs, and various virtuoso techiques, and everytime I went down and hit an OCTAVE A, with my left hand, (where the piano very closely ends) I had these "extra keys." As I performed I thought, I've only ever heard of Bosendorfer having extra keys (I may be wrong, but they are known for it). So as I played, I finally looked at the name, and yes, it was a Bosendorfer, it was a predicatable standing ovation. Not because "I'm all that," but that is why it is called entertainment, all in how you build and work the audience. However that night, the piano was unbelievably amazing and wonderfully sounding. (If the piano wasn't a grand piano, or in tune, I would simply not do the concert pianio number because it couldn't support all the things I did on the keys, it simply fell flat.) So I would change out and do a another number on the Trumpet.
Must be a Bosendorfer Imperial🎹🎶
Incredible that he was able to tune those pianos and then tuna fish.
For 17.000$ they could oil the sustain pedal :D
Still, you hear what you pay for! )))
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nah that's just a bird nest in there :)
That cracked me up
@@Liastnir LOL. Yes. me too :) It was very funny.
The $600 one although not the absolute best there honestly really amazed me. There was an astonishing about of crispness to the high notes I wasn’t expecting considering how cheap it was.
I have no idea how pricing works in piano world, but why a hundred year old antique piano cost so little?
Agreed. To me, it had the most personality, though not as precise of a sound across all notes.
Exactly what I thought. Yamahas sounded good but lacked character. Same as all their guitars...
@@Bogdan221192 maybe because of the condition🎹🎶
@@MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 then how much would it cost if it was in pristine condition?
I really enjoy your video they make me smile, because of your facial expression when playing various pianos 😊
Dude that Barthol & Berlin sounds amaaaazing!
To me every Yamaha sounds like a perfectly made piece of art, they all bring the perfect elements of the sound spectrum to be amazing to the ears
I prefer the yamaha too, which is why when they helped build the lexus lfa it became one of the best sounding cars in the world, car manufacturers should hire people who made musical instruments like these
Hello yes I had to preferred the Yamaha I took my grandson for piano lessons once and the man had a Yamaha it was not a particularly expensive one I think he’d paid £2000 for it but he did say he got it for a very good price at that the sound when he played was breathtaking it was as though I had
never heard of piano before, Whilst the others were good there was something different about the Yamaha some sweetness of the note some purity thank you
Yup Yamaha also make great sounding bikes... like my RD400....
Define, "amazing to the ears" please.
That's the problem with these kinds of comparisons - you can't. Not honestly, because your opinion of what sounds "amazing" is subjective to you. When I was younger my family owned a Yamaha for a bit, I hated how it sounded. So of course my parents ended up storing it in my bedroom, because why wouldn't they, and I got to listen to whoever playing it all the time, like fingernails on a chalkboard.
@@looneyburgmusic I define it as a warm but clean noise, in all of these recordings every yamaha did not bring out any excessive harshness to the sound as in not much mechanical noise or any unwanted piano parts resonating internally. They all sound like well made and have a consistent quality to them through their price ranges
For those wondering the music being played is Nocturne in C-sharp minor (no20)
just the comment I was looking for.
Thank you.
Sweet. Thanks! :-)
Thanks. I was just looking for this information.
Surprised people dont know this after all these years especially being featured in The Pianist movie.
Я грав на аккордеоні і вже хотів піти з мизичної школи,але мій репититор запросив мене зіграти той самий репертуар на німецькому аккордеоні ....Я влюбився в глибину його звука і провчився ще один рік. Тому "так" різниця велика. Просто іі майже не чутно зі смартфону). Дякую за вашу працю,дуже гарно!
Use English, not Moiva!
@@ukrainesov21xoxol, there's translate button
@@ukrainesov21 зачем ты на языке врагов пишешь???? Предатель?
@@laomy8224 враги это те, кто устроили майдан и кто привел страну к разорению! Кастрюлю с головы давно уже надо бы снять!
No Moiva for us,
The more money the more pronounced it sounds. Crisp clear. Beautiful
For the ones that might be wondering what this piece is called it’s: Frédéric Chopin’s Nocturne in C# minor No.20
Thank you! I was scouring the comments and almost lost hope
Fred for the win. Good look 🙌🏿
Thank you Mr Goose
I wasn’t
Thank you!! ;)
For a casual listener like myself, all this does is illustrate how quickly you run into diminishing returns. To my untrained ears, the upright Yamaha sounded just fine, and everything after it sounds slightly different, but not noticably better per se.
That's about what I thought. The differences in the following ones that I *thought* I heard could just be chalked up to different room acoustics. Like the last Yamaha grand was in a room with considerably less echo than the Playel grand so did the Yamaha sound "warmer" because of the piano or the room? I cant tell.
One difference you *don't* hear is from the perspective of the pianist, the more expensive pianos have better touch characteristics. Upright pianos offer less control for playing softly and have trouble with rapidly repeating notes, and old pianos that haven't had significant servicing for a few decades, as well as cheap low quality pianos, can have problems such as one key sounding louder than the others or not striking the string at all if you try to play too softly.
For the expensive pianos, a big difference is the quality of the bass notes. To make a deep note, you need a very long string. However, you can work around this by using a thick string. However, a long string will sound significantly better. But this only affects the bottom octave and a half or so of the piano since only the bottom notes have any need for strings long enough to not fit inside smaller pianos. The big reason this isn't noticable in the video is simply that he's not actually playing any of the really low notes in that piece. Also, even if he was, you wouldn't be able to hear it unless you're using decent headphones or speakers with halfway decent bass response. Laptop and phone speakers are out.
The main difference is that from the upright yamaha on they were tuned properly. Even the cheaper ones would sound much closer if tuned.
There is probably differences that can’t be picked up on microphones.
I agree with that and I have a pretty good set of head phones as well! I do wonder if the feel of the piano starts playing a bigger role then the sound of it at that point or its the same diminishing returns
Instead of ramping up slowly like the video intended, I saw the first piano and immediately transitioned to the most expensive one……upon hearing the last piano, I was moved to tears of joy
that trap producer one was a joke right?^^
The way you are looking at us ... I love it!
Wow, this video is incredible. I suppose the phrase, 'you get what you pay for' is very applicable in this context. A big thank you to the highly talented @vinheteiro
The Yamaha Grand Piano CFX has the cleanest, most beautiful sound out of all of these. I could listen to it for hours on end. Absolutely beautiful.
But the pleyel had the most character to it
It was something wasn't it. My wife was playing this video on my phone while I walked around the kitchen and that was the one that really tweaked my ears. Beautiful sound.
How about this one?
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@@frankmarsh1159 good beter than the Carl Hardt. I'd still prefer the real thing, however the P 515 is still great, and I would love to try one🎹🎶
@@MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 The 515 has the new CFX sample set and a Bosendorfer plus a really good speakers system. Of course it can't compete with the real thing but for the money it's probably the best digital piano out there IMHO.
The squeaky pedal on the Yamaha grand, was killing me
They needed to oil the sustaining pedal. It was so distracting.
I'm a techy person. I would just spray some wd40 on it and be done lol
WD-40 is a solvent, not a lubricant, you probably would damage it in the long run with this method@@VideoManDan
@@Exiax1989 WD-40 IS in fact a lubricant.
it's both according to google@@Fluke2SS
Perhaps the differences from the room is what we were hearing in some but in some of the more controlled environments you can hear a difference. I liked the 3rd and 2nd to last the best but the first yamaha sounded great also.
Amazing voices) .
I'm not a musician, but it's really nice when you hear a good sound, it makes the soul sing
The first yamaha for 8,000 was the point where the sound started to even out in quality for me.The 1915 model was my favorite of the cheap ones.
Same here. That one peaked for me.
Yeah same from 8000 sounds like it wouldn't be worth going over this
I thought the 17 grand baby grand was turning point. Grand pianos just have a different sound than uprights. The earlier ones are definitely the ticket if playing ragtime music. I don’t think an expensive concert grand piano can pull that off.
@@dochaze1 I think it will if you don't tune it for a long time LOL🎹🎶
The song is by Frédéric Chopin - Nocturne No.20 in C-Sharp Minor, Op. posth.
Thank you!!!
Thank fucking Christ someone said this. Ive been scrolling for days hoping I would find it.
@@s.v.848 Me too lol fuck that was brutal.
Yep, been here looking for this, thanks a lot!
That song is so sad.I remember hearing it as a little 5 year old kid and crying my eyes out.Mum was asking w hats wrong and when I told her she looked at me like I was crazy.
My favorite thing about your videos is that there's no filler. I don't need to skip four minutes in to get to the good part. You just deliver the entire time. Fantastic.
Whoever knew a engine builder would make such great sounding pianos
They made pianos first🎹🎶
@@MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 I know, they didn't start making engines until the emperor of Japan ordered all manufacturers to make war machines for WW2. I was being facetious.....
Now go listen to an MT10
I love the tone, clarity and mellowness of all the Yamahas . The GB1 has a beautiful sound but that squeaky sustain pedal is driving me crazy.
You can have that fixed before you buy it🎹🎶
Me toooooo
I didn't even notice it until you pointed it out. So thanks for that.
They just have a certain warmth to them. Clean!
Hear hear
While listening with one dollar earphone these pianos sounds just amazing.
LOL
@@tretansakera_war250
I know
Right
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I find it really interesting that even though the older cheap pianos clearly sound "worse", they have this sort of character to them still. Playing some spooky or solemn music on those things would sound amazing.
So much fun , thanks
Love the little rocker at the end.
The way he looks at the audience while playing each piano is priceless and funny as hell.
Haha seriously.
he’s like: “do your hear the difference, bxtch?”
Lucas Brar has the same look. 😆
He makes sure you listen and don't leave. He pins you down. If you try to escape, a laser from his eyes will punish you in the back.
I showed my girl she is like what is he looking at haha 😄
love how he checks up on his every now and then to see how we’re doing. so thoughtful wow
Just can't get over how you keep looking at the camera in all your videos, keep on playing and sharing! Be AWESOME!
The name of the song is: Frederic Chopin - Nocturne, posth. In C-Sharp Minor, Lento
Thank u !!!!
voting up so ppl can find this comment!!! took me 10000000 years of scrolling to do so lol
Chopin nocturne c sharp minor
Thank you buddy
Beautiful
This highlights the point of diminishing returns with instrument price really well. Usually the “just above beginner” models work pretty well in 95% of applications lol
Sure. For someone that just wants to play.
But someone that wants to feel the notes and not have their ear holes raped by nails on a chalk board. Youd kill to play on the last piano.
@@krotchlickmeugh627 A yes playing on a 300k piano will feel likes my ears will be raped by nails and chalkboard if I would be an experienced player
I mean, tbh, so much of the recorded sound is due to the room is super hard to judge. Tbh I thought the 8k option was the sweet spot but I also don't know how much thr room played a role. Basic speakers in a well treated room will always trump absalute top of the line in a small shitty reflective room for example
@@everything-has-a-handle-now I he meens the Yamaha CFX🎹🎶
It is very rare to find cheep acoustic pianos that sound good. Most of them are just junk,. These pianos are cheep for a reason🎹🎶
out of those i´d say the upright is the best choice. you have a clear improvement in sound quality and with the even more expensive choices it´s not worth it anymore if you are just playing for yourself at home and not for a large audience/ or have loads of money to burn
i also enjoyed the price examples with the little text underneath the foto
Grands have beter actions than uprights, however if one doesn't have the space for a grand an upright might be the only option🎹🎶
Just want to highlight that not only do the different pianos sound different at different price points, they FEEL completely different as well.
I remember my $2000 upright piano felt super light, the $5000 generic Yamaha baby grand in my teacher's studio felt heavy and clunky (he didn't like it either), and the $160,000 Fazioli felt like the absolute perfect balance of lightness from an upright and weightiness of a grand piano.
In my opinion the Yamaha c2 was surprisingly nice, even compared to the more expensive and bigger grands.
My take too
I agree
Agree 2
Indeed.
Yep, so now i know my next piano will be at least $30k 🙃
The expensive ones are obviously, clearly superior, but I love the sound of the 2nd piano. It sounds like it'd be perfect for silent movie music or in an 1880s saloon.
And I thought that Yamaha C2 sounded great. I actually liked it better than the second to last one although that might've just been the room.
Yeeessss i agree! The second one sounds really nice. You can really notice the difference
I agree and I thought maybe that was the high-end upright in opposition to the cheapo piano but it was cheap itself! But what a nice sound.
I dont have a clue about pianos but i agree totally with you the second one had a great sound.. also i believe that from the third to the last one there was no difference in the quality of sound. They just have different sounds
Thank god I'm not the only one, I love the tone of the 2nd piano. Better than some of more expensive ones after it!
Yea, that looks the same for me ✌️😜
I don't play very well at all, I studied music at university but I play guitar. Had the chance to play an old Steinway Concert D.. it was beautiful, can definitely tell the difference.
the look back to make sure were still watching haha. still here bro!
Also, Yamaha is such an excellent brand in any engineering they participate in from Motorsports to Pianos.
My favourite was the 8,000 dollar Yamaha upright. (also, it would be cool if you returned to the first cheap piano after the most expensive (proper) piano to end full circle and get a good read on the difference.) Much love and respect from an aspiring piano enthusiast.
you could rewind*
@@dumatol2 thanks, lol, you just blew my mind. What i was thinking by what i said though was simply that it would be a cool idea for a smooth transition to instantly hear the difference. Didn't mean for it to come accross as so rude or condecending that someone like you felt the need to jump to his defense about it. But thanks tips, I'll go sit down and let your revelation wash over me.
You're welcome 🤙
I thought the same.. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
So funny . I dont know if sound was pick up right or why but my choice was 8000. One to.
Wish we could have heard all the pianos in the same room, the acoustics really do make a difference. That being said, the 9k Yamaha grand had probably the best tone for price. Of course the 289k had (imo) the best tone, but I think the room sound may have had an influence. It also seemed to have the most fluid action, just from what I could see. I loved the tone of my teacher’s Yamaha over the Steinway in the performing arts building at my school, but the Steinway had an action just like a hot knife through butter.
Used piano didn't give same tone by the way, I think it s make a big difference too
That and the biggest differences come from the age of the piano
Recorded with the same mics and preamps!
(ahah utopia xd)
Agreed, this is a variable that needs to be controlled for
Yes, let's drag all these heavy pianos all into one room.
Even if the pianos are considered cheap. With their appearance and age, it does feel like you’ve walked into a fancy old time bar lol. there’s something about them that has its own charm. The Pleyel sounded so lovely as well, I know nothing about piano care but still sounding so clear after almost a hundred years is wonderful!
When producing music in studio recordings I often choose the cheap, upright piano with the honky Tonk sound because in the mix with the other instruments it sticks out a lot better because it has that brighter, and transient heavy attack which can sound a lot better in the mix than the baby grand or concert hall piano because those tend to sound too dark and soft. I think when the only instrument is the piano I may prefer the concert hall piano because it has a more dynamic and full sound, but in the mix the cheap pianos often sound better in my opinion.
You're a cap'! Indeed Different uses will rather want cheap or expensive! And tbh even if in person you can feel the difference... recording it already make it "cheap" especially if it's for youtube and plateforme that got some compression
The price differences and the differences in sound are huge. But to be fair, to get a real comparison between the sound of the pianos, you would have to play them in the same setup (room, mics, etc.).
I wonder how much more of a difference it would be in person, seeing how we're listening through a speaker lol
@@thomasbarton1050 Microphones and Speakers always have an impact on the sound you are hearing. Also the sound will vary with your placement in the room
If only trained ears can tell the difference you wasted your money but go ahead and say whatever you want so that you can sleep at night at the end of the day a roomful of Master piano players is a boring room the master plays for the people that cant play and they can't tell the difference therefore it's a waste of money
@@marioncobretti8210 I don't get your comment. The only thing I was saying is, that if you really want to compare the instruments (especially the higher end ones), you have to get the same recording evironment, otherwise you can't tell how much of the difference in the recording, is due to the instrument or due to the environment
Speaker is the same for the whole video, so the difference is still there even if they're cheap. And I must say the difference here is insane. The piano for 8,000$ is so beautiful in comparison to dead sound of the first one.
That $600 piano was a great surprise. It had a rounder sound, but maintained a dulcid sharpness in the high notes. That sound was not equaled until the $50,000 grand piano. Granted, the acoustics of each room where they were played varied quite a bit.
Was about to write the same thing
Both of the pianos that had a timbre that appealed to me turned out to be yamahas. Kind of surprised me.
The way he keeps eerily looking back at us during each session 👀
I'm trully amazed with the Barthol's character. Cheap and detuned, but what a lovely feeling.
Was it just me or did that $8000 Yamaha upright sound freaking amazing? The tone was so dark and clean. I loved that.
No, I’m with you on that one.
depend on you headphones or speakers. For me 8000 sounds most interesting, not sure what is the reason. More expensive models sounds super clean, but 8000 model is reach of harmonics and I want to listen it again.
The cheaper pianos had a "tinny" sound. The more expensive pianos, from the Yamaha and up were smoother, richer sounding. This is my personal inexperienced ear.
Exactly what I was coming on to say, some notes sound harsher on the cheaper piano.
I really like that tin sound tbh
@@AlexSoetekouwProductions I think some types of songs actually need that tin sound for them to sound right!
@@carishaw4143 i.e. Thomas the tank engine theme
I think it depends on the purpose as well, the $53000 one’s sound can linger in a room and ring longer LOL if that makes any sense
That was an amazing demonstration of the differences between pianos. I have a terrible ear for music, yet could hear very clearly the sound getting better. Except for that last wee little thing!! Thanks for the lesson!
crazy i didn't know but is truly a difference. Thanks for show us.
The more expensive they are, the warmer and smoother they sound.
Same like cars bruh
No bruh
Three cylinders sounds good bruh bruh bruh
Bruh
Except for the last one!
I don’t have expertise in pianos but I’m impressed that Yamaha as a company again excels in offering such finely engineered products at less than insane prices. I’m familiar with their studio monitors, and in the that product field, I can say they provide the same level of stellar engineering without bankrupting musicians. Hats off to them and their engineers :)
Yamaha electric basses are also very well regarded. Top-quality, comfortable and nice-looking instruments.
Yeah, yamaha mio is the best 😌
the sound stage in that last yamaha was impressive. when you close your eyes it feels like you are there.
As you went up in price the richness and clarity of the music improved.
In the hands of the experienced pianist,every piano sounds wonderfull!🌌🌠
I am not all that. But I'm glad you enjoyed it.
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@@Lord_Vinheteiro Thank you for doing good content for us! You are my favorite pianist!
@@khalidcherkaoui274 Get a life, posting the same vid on almost every comment. React to the skills of the above vid, dont link other people's vids shamelessly like that.
I'm surprised by the fact that you can build a piano for $40 bucks.
He said it was built from piano parts probably made in someone's garage
A lot of people are giving away uprights these days. They take up space and peoples' spaces are getting smaller. A good digital piano with good headphones is often a trade off that people are willing to make. If you look around for a while you might find an upright for an astonishingly good price.
@@joyofpoverty5058 although, most of them are probably not in good condition🎹🎶
@@joyofpoverty5058 Indeed, a lot of folks are trading them out for space reasons (though a decent digital piano has a similar footprint), but more so because the maintenance and tuning costs are quite high. An acoustic piano should be tuned a couple of times a year, which costs upwards of $60 a time...
Some pianos in U.K. it’s for free, donation, 40$ it’s a good price
Usted es un gran músico maestro.abrazos
Definitely you can feel the difference. Especially between Yamaha upright and the previous models. The sound from yamaha upright and the next models is gently, more and more gently. Sometimes what you pay for, you get. As we say in Greece.
I wonder if Steinway is the best company for pianos.
Steinway is not the best it is one of the best. There is no such thing as the overall best piano brand🎹🎶
There's most definitely a difference, but another Factor that seems to be overlooked by most is the positioning of the piano, and the size of the room. I'll assume that the recording device is the same for each piano, but the other variables will greatly affect the sound quality.
Yes
Eh I wouldn’t say greatly. There’s definitely more of a difference between the piano themselves than a difference due to their positioning/environment.
@@Remixable100 especially with the larger grands because they have longer strings and, a larger soundboard🎹🎶
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Last time it was tuned too lol
Growing up in church, my grandma played the piano. She started learning when she was 4 and has played every day of her life since then. (she is 93 now). Our church didn't have a lot of money and the piano sounded ok but its the only piano I had ever really heard much and my parents always said it needed to be tuned. When we would go to her house on holidays though, she had a beautiful grand piano and lord god almighty there was a major difference
I loved the sound of the PGC circa 1928. Great buy for $53K This was my favorite, it had a beautiful voice, can you play some more using that piano
Stunning variety of expression of the pianist.
I am far from being a pianist, I just took lessons for 12 years when I was a child, then I quit before 19. Now I'm 58 and haven't played a piano in ages. This said, I had the pleasure to play on a Steinway & Sons about ten years ago, and even the crap I was playing sounded awesome. Put a little boost in my pride.
There is a very noticeable difference in the sound of every piano.
I thought it was interesting that he didn't have any steinways.
With that talent everyone sounds great!
For those asking..
Chopin - Nocturne in C Sharp Minor, Op. Posth
If someone need to ask it.. well...
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@@francoestrubia6503 oh god you have so much culture!!
Thanks, knew it was Chopin but not which piece specifically
I was in classical guitar study for 15 years from when I was 9. Started on a 50 dollar guitar. When I was 17 my father purchased me a really lovely classical guitar and the difference was huge but the thing is you can still make good music on something like that it depends on how hard you play it and why. We couldn't afford much but my father saved and got me a very nice now unfortunately passed away Luther ryoji matsuoka. Beautiful Japanese made classical and it will be my treasured gift for the rest of my life. Such a treat to play and I appreciate the ease after years and even on nylon strings having bleeding fingers. Did my high school exams to get into university with this and man I got there. But I could have done it on the cheap guitar too. Its all about how you play. The sound is better obviously but your skill as a musician doesn't change depending on the value of your instrument.
True🎹🎶
I have a very cheap guitar and a much better guitar ,but often practice on the cheap one just to see what l can get out of it ...
This is true for most things. Power tools, chef knives, furniture, bicycles and sports cars come to mind.
that's so cool! I'm a classical guitarist too, currently studying it in college 😁
@@michellem.8621 Thanks ,obviously the better guitar does sound a lot better but it,s a bit of a challenge to see what you can get out of a very cheap guitar ,then when you pick up the better guitar you appreciate it more ..
That trap piano was the most infuriating and jarring interruption I've ever experienced
I love it
They all need a good tuning, with the exception of a couple.
The comparison would be a lot more meaningful with all pianos well tuned.
I love how he keeps looking back just to make sure we're still listening.
The problem with these is that the pianos are being played at different locations.
Some have an echo, some have outside sounds interfering with the music.
But props to this man and his team for not only finding all of these pianos, but getting permission to even play them. Wow!
Yes all are the same, its just the echo
@@gibbon2381 the difference is probably more notiseable in person than in the video🎹🎶
THIS MAN HAS NO TEAM. HE IS ONLY MAN.
not really, notice the lowest notes in the song, some are like broken
@@MERCEDES-BENZS600GUARD_V12 it’s very clear by the sound which belong to the cheap group and which are expensive. However it might be difficult for you, if you only have little experience with pianos so far. Also the biggest differences are lost by playing it on smartphone speakers…
2 years ago I saw this video, and bought my first electric piano just so that I can play this chopin nocturne myself.
Love that the chicken was never far away throughout 👌🏼
Also, I think the sound was better in the warehouse than the shop front. Maybe a lot of stuff in the shop affects acoustics... Or maybe I imagine things 🤷🏻♂️😂
There was a huge jump in sound quality with the first Yamaha. To me not all were worth the difference in price from all the ones below them but the last full sized piano was sublime. They all sounded way different from each other even at the higher prices.
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I think the acoustics of the room also changed a lot with that one. If that's all just the piano I'd be a bit surprised
@@Ben-ew3hv that's mostly the piano🎹🎶
Maybe there was some difference, but for the average nobody they would all sound the same up from that first Yamaha baby grand.
@@PiotrBarcz Perhaps I know quality when I hear it, which is why I'm subscribed to Vinheteiro. Once a music teacher tested my class for ability to detect slight changes in relative pitch. The other students accused me of cheating but the teacher said "but he's at the far end of the room!" This "room" is the best! As for piano quality, the one Vinheteiro just purchased sounds wonderful!
"This is equivalent to the value of a Europe trip"
Me, a European: Does this mean I get it for free?
😂
Yeah moit. Free towels as well.
@@Cengizomerca No, my towels aren't actually free. Well, at least I own them and a free Trip to europe is a free trip to europe, so I won't complain
Euro trip means for me a trip over european countries. Is it still free for you?
@@snakemgs3766 It's a joke
The quality of the wood is what really makes the piano. It’s essentially a giant resonance box. Warped or cheap wood alters the sound quality.
Also notice that some of the cheaper pianos sound more “tinny”
More expensive pianos also spend more time being refined than cheaper ones🎹🎶
Wow. This is so interesting. I could clearly hear The differanse between each one😮 and The last one …. Is a killer ❤
The sound is so much more "clear and precise"...so pure...crystal clean...going up with the amount of money
But it's not pure and crystal enough to justify such a high price. BTW - contemporary digital pianos sound amazing and they are not that pricey.
The Vallet is emptier going up with the amount of money 😂
Up to the $32k level, I'd agree. I bet the full size instrument is capable of being louder and projecting better, but I'm not sure that matters unless there's a whole orchestra they have to level-match or something like that.
You got grifted and now you're ashamed you payed so much that a $40 piano could produce lol
I can notice the different between the 1st and 2nd
As the 2nd piano sound more....how to put it, more crisp and clear. But the higher the price is my ears already so used to hear it i cant differentiate them anymore 😕
I noticed a difference in sound between all of them, but after the huge jump between the $40 assembled piano and the $600 Berlin, i couldnt tell much difference that i could contribute to quality and price rather than different building methods to fit a different sound. Berlin for me sounded the best so i would find price after a certain point to be less indicative of subjective audio quality, and more about the quality of the craftsmanship, though even that seems to have diminishing returns given that the Berlin piano sounded like a dream despite being heavily used and over a century old.
I think you're right that different pianos are built differently to purposely sound different. But one of the factors that makes a piano expensive is how stable it is. How long wll it stay in tune, how will it respond to changes in temperature, etc.
To be honest I liked the 600$ one the most
Also called the louder always seems better effect. 600$ one seems the loudest
Can u tell me the name of the masterpiece?
@@cubertofu Im actually unsure. i looked around for a bit and couldnt find it. im sure someone else in the comments knows though
As a pianist, kudos to you for the pricing in BTC, lol. Jumping about in your video it is striking to hear the variations. Actually, surprised to discover Yamaha make a piano worth more than my home, so that's interesting.