Love & Hate - Yamaha Tenere 700
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 มี.ค. 2020
- Yamaha Tenere 700 is one of the most popular new adventure bikes out there. It features the legendary Tenere name and comes with a simple, rough bike, formula: less money, less electronics, stick to the basics. Here's our love and hate episode about the Yamaha Tenere 700.
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The only thing I don't like about this bike is that it's not it my garage or that I am not riding one at the moment .
@Mich Sky
No comment
@@hardworkingamerican8847 I'm checking in to get an update on if one is in your garage yet. It's been 3 years. What's the sitrep?
@@durtyred86
Well yes there is one in my garage . The bad news is that I have not had chance to ride it since June last year . Got busy after the summer trip to Lake Tahoe and a few months later my 22 year relationship ended . Long story but we are still friends and hopefully things will get better , I have known her since we were 9 . She and her sister inherited the house we had been living in and her sister and I are oil and water most times . Silver lining is that my dad is 84 and really can't keep up the house like he used to as he is doing so much for my mom and aunt who are living in an assisted living facility . He does the books for my business etc and I feed him and my dog .
For the first few months my head wasn't right for riding and this winter has been insane with all the rain here in Northern California . Probably will take it out in a week or so . Have to start easy and get to know it again .
I had a blast up at Lake Tahoe last summer and with the Motoz Tractionator ADV tires I really got confident on some sketchy spots . Along with those tires I put in a lithium battery Tourtech crash bars Tusk pannier rack Large replacement Tourtech windscreen along with a crap ton of moto camping gear . Still need Barkbusters a good GPS like the Garmin 750i Montana maybe the center stand and a couple other things but I can't put much money into that bike right now until funds recuperate . So that's what's up in my world , take care now .
I really like the tenere, because it looks amazing and it's pretty simple. There are some negative points, but all motorcycles have those.
I really like this series! These are tough times, and every time I see one of your videos it puts a smile on my face! I am watching all your adventure travel videos right now.
When all this is over, I will buy my first adventure bike. You have inspired me, Christian! Thank you and stay healthy!
Thanks for your kind words. Be safe!
I drove this bike "2019" for a 1500km T.E.T. (Trans Europian Trail) trip from the middle of Germany through the Swis mountains down to Italy and back and I learned so much about this bike. It handled the autobahn an some stretches well at 120km. The sock suspension setting was way soft on my 220lb frame. I tightened the front suspension 5 turns and the aft 2 turns. Was then working fine for 80% of the situations I put it in. The throttle DOES have an initial jurk when coming off the throttle stop. I hear there is some mapping fixes for this. Lastly the stock tires are good for asphalt and hard pack. Send is less then ok, but mud and wet grass is crazy bad... change them to something more aggressive if your ok with lossing ride quality at high speed on the road. Other than that its a great bike at the price!
Just changed to Michelin anakee wild and they seem a great compromise . Nothing can be all things to all people
Love, only love!! It’s a simple bike but it’s a perfect!!!
Perfect for a Yamaha rep!!
I agree totally 15000 km on mine some changes yeah exactly what I want love it
It is the lightest multi-cylinder ADV bike available, I think. That counts for a lot. I think it's the perfect mix of on-road comfort, off-road ability, affordability and reliability. Bravo, Yamaha!
it weighs a 100 lbs more than a ktm 690 and offers the same power and much less features. it doesn't make sense to me.
@@damytzeus I would say 690 is an Enduro and T7 is an adventure bike. I'd rather go RTW on T7.
@@damytzeus dude I have a 701 I know what your saying but ..the 690/701 is dual sport ...we modify them to be more like an adventure but they are not the same class of bike for sure. A 790 has a zero chance of going where a 690 can go , a 690 has zero chance of being as smooth and comfortable as a 790 on the road.
@@damytzeus I've ridden both and own a 690. The 690 is far quicker and more responsive, can be thrown around much more, and is far better off road. Both are limited by small fuel tanks. The Tenere is FAR more comfortable over distances. Tenere engine is smoother and entire ride is more refined. 690 is more expensive for aftermarket parts. For a RTW bike I'd go for the Yamaha. For tougher but shorter trips the 690 is hard to beat. Both are perfect bikes, and both are imperfect bikes. Both are full of compromises.
For examples I sometimes wish I had a 500 EXC or WR450F instead of my 690. I think I'd rather go for a KTM 790 over the Tenere too, even iff I'd have more confidence in the reliability of the Yamaha.
790 is lightest 2cyl adv ; cheers;
Thank God you're still making videos, this lockdown is driving me crazy, can't ride my bike aswell!
On topic: That "Dakar feeling" this bike has is awesome, looks really aggressive. It was on my list of possible next bike, however Brazil's market is a bit limited, no T700 available here.
I disagree, the throttle is a peach. The suspension isn’t bad at all, comes too soft but can be adjusted. I think stock, it’s a brilliant bike that still has scope to be made marginally better with a few upgrades.
One thing, it will still be going when some other makes has broken down..
Stephen Byford this and parts are not expensive. Loving my t7 so far. The suspension is an issue for me though and gonna replace that
gelul12 have you changed the suspension yet?
I must be very tolerant I haven't even turn the screw on my t7 suspension 15000 km nothing is perfect but I do just love the feel of this bike
Great vid guys. the biggest upgrade you should do is the suspension but for the money it’s a great value bike from my experience with it.
Excellent video - honest and to the point. Thank you for your motivation and enthusiasm during these tough times - 👍
Keep up the good reviews! Thanks from Texas!
This is the next KLR650 at a next level. I’ve been watching a lot of videos on the T7 and all but few reviews always present a negative to this bike. Usually about the suspension. But let’s be honest, unless you are a hard core enduro rider you are not going to notice the suspension that much. Hell my old KLR650 had stock suspension and I could easily do logging roads/stream crossings/small jumps and some single track riding. This T7 is going to be used off road like a KLR650 or a DR650 and so I can’t see the suspension being that much of a problem. Of course, if you are a heavy rider then a change in suspension might help. This bike has more capability than most riders. Check out FortNines review and also Pol Tarrés doing some amazing stunts on the T7.
Loves:
1:20 Engine
2:02 Looks
2:20 Simple/Lack of electronics
3:05 Good "base" to make the way you want
Hates:
3:41 Price
4:00 Brake and clutch levers break catastrophically
4:29 Bad headlight
4:37 Suspension
5:19 Seat is uncomfortable, dash vibrates
5:58 Throttle response / Snatchy unrefined throttle
I have a T7 from the first batch since July 19, I have done absolutely everything with it even hard trail or soft enduro and Cristian is right about the suspension and jerky Off-on throttle.
The suspension is harsh on rocks and deflects a lot, not plush on the street either. On jumps or coming down from wheelies it bottoms out if you not close the compression. it's not a lack of quality but internal valving setup.
The jerkyness can be mildly corrected by reducing throttle free slack but not Completely solved.
The engine is marvelous and also the handling.
you're right, getting proper spring for your weight and revalving suspension should fix all those issues. Anyway virtually every adv bike on the market needs that, so its not like its T7-specific issue ;
Progressive spring upgrade for the suspension & decent crash protection is what it needs
@@wickedleeloopy2115 not progressive, just right stiffness. Bike susp have progressive characteristics by design - air chamber over oil.
see pol tarres!!!!
I live in Zimbabwe Africa and I think the T7 is perfect no frills no fuss, with the closest reliable dealer 1200km away, I think it's a winner.
Where you ? I am in Bulawayo and have the 660 Tenere for now. Dreaming of the 700
Hello "neighbours". I'm from South Africa (Johannesburg)
I think you should stick to your electronic galore BMW...I'll take a well made and reliable, simple dirtbikeish T7
Real men Have an Africa Twin AS - Yamaha T7 and R1200GS!
nice episode, stay safe and take care, V!
Nice honest video. Looking forward to your comments on other bikes.Cheers!
Its so beautiful, I loved. I would want that it come to Brazil.
Yup, best looking ADV bike of all time
great like every time... greatings from Poland
It's nice to see really honest reviews like this pointing out pro's an con's :) Would love to see a review / discussion on the Royal Enfield Himalayan. I'm building a ww2 Norton Raf 16H at the moment very similar to a Himmy as I like my more simple bikes after running a 1967 Norton 650SS last year which was a revelation compared to my old BMW GSA LC 1200 which had an agricultural gearbox an had which spent 7 months in the workshop and worked through a few engines final drives and other components. Has to be said the power delivery on the 650ss and the gearbox are both silky smooth :) surprising for such an old bike that's been very reliable. It's a shame the Yam's got a snatchy throttle when brands of the yesteryear had those aspects right.
Having said that I don't think any bike ever is perfect :) Stay safe an keep making this ace videos.
Please do the same with the Moto Guzzi V85 TT! I remember how happy you looked like in the review, would be nice to hear your thoughts
Hi . Thanks for the videos most entertaining particularly now we are all on lockdown. Much appreciated. The only thing that I truly like about the Yamaha is the looks. As for the next episode, I would enjoy hearing your opinions on the KTM 790 Adventure R. :-))
You have unpacked de new Africa Twin 1100, you already have the chance to ride it? I would like your opinion on this one. Thanks and keep safe!
Gracias por tus opiniones....y a cuidarse del corona...saludos!!
Nice bike! Simple, I like.
Thanks.
Wonderful video thonkyou vairdy muuch
Very good vidéo ! Good bike
some say that riding basic tenere is more close to nature,do u guys agree with that? does traction control helps so much when u ride at offroad terrain?
You are 100% right, this bike handles amazing and the enginge is amazing but i especially agree on the price part, this is not cheap..
Thanks for honest review my friend. I like no BS approach on which bike is superior in different environments and all-round. You are doing a lot for consumers to make companies improve their products!
Geez Louise, make your minds up, before you said it was a great bike now all you do is slate the bike. We do t all have endless money puts to throw at a bike. We dont all want loads of electronic gizmos, some people just want a good all round bike without the fuss. My next bike will be the T7 roll on next year
The title of the video literally starts with “love & hate” sooooo........lol
Is the Tenere adequate for a 6’ 1” person or better suited for small 5’2” riders like most bikes these days?
You have some beautiful riding areas over there. Is that gas tank on the Tenere plastic or metal?
Metal with a plastic cover.
The bike sounds amazing:)
Im thinking to buy myself a 1st bike and help will be appreciated. Im dueling beetween T700 Rally or V-strom 650xt. Im 192cm tall, around 90kg and i like to drive through nature. If this is only what interests me i would buy T700, but its not. What else interests me is that to go on very long trip one day, probably desert area. So that 2nd reason is why im considering about v-strom 650xt. What do you suggest or anyone who reads this msg? Thanx. Btw good video.
I find the lights are very good compared to a tracer 700, so good I haven't needed to add fogs as well.
Is it ok for an adventure bike to have inverted shocks?
If it launches in India i will buy it for sure!! We dont hav dual sports in India but this one is mine
Thanks for telling us about the bad points; Yamaha have told us about all the good points 👍
I love this bike its very good looking simple one
Please tell something about nc750x bike I one and I want to try my self on dirt road. Is it going to survive since I am non experienced rider but lately I like adventure riding more and more and this season hopefully will try it
Your channel is one of my favourite
The nc750x is a road bike
Hi how are you I'm one of your watching your moto flog and I have questions . I'm looking to go around the world and I'm looking for nice bike and I need your advice for good motorcycle what is your advice KTM 1290 R ADVENTURE OR BMW 1250 ADVENTURE
REGARDS
Same price as the standard tiger 900 here in sweden. It's a no thanks for me, but I might buy a used one later as a second bike.
Hello what do you think of Suzuki V strom 650 xt vs yamaha xtz 700. Greetings from Bulgaria.
The Tenere is better suited for off-road adventures. The V-Strom is more of a street bike
Thank you
Dealers don't have them in the stores yet. Maybe you can special order but I would like to test drive or at least sit on one before I make a 10k purchase
So if not this motorcycle then which one compares to this one and is better?
How tall are you? And if you had to choose between the Africa Twin or Tenere 700 which would you choose?
He died last year in a crash with his bike :(
Wt is your height and l2g inseam?
This really convinced me to wait at least a year to see if they'll make any changes.
The changes are the 2021 Euro 5 version has extra cats, less power and extra weight.
Honda CB500x or the Yamaha 700. Which would you take if you could only have one brother?
greg mason Tenere 700
Saw it at the launch reveal and the Toronto Bike show. Very crude but simple machine. A modern KLR and more off-road focused bike. Seat is too high for me but not very comfortable for long range highway. No Cruze was a deal breaker.
Ended up being over $15 k when you add luggage, Center stand and a few other things. Got tired of waiting and got a BMW R1200R demo with all the gizmos and luggage for not much more.
I'm still riding my 12 year old KLR650 and have been really been checking out some new bikes think that maybe in a few months I might be able to purchase a new dual sport bike. The new KTM 790's are my first choice (but I haven't ridden any new ones yet). Now I see the new Triumph 900's with the new firing order and lighter weight making them more off-road capable and a lot more comparable to the KTM 790's. My 3rd runner up looks like the Base model African Twin. Could you rate the new Tiger 900 against the KTM 790 and the base African Twin.
Is the new CB500x comparable to the T7?
Great bike .This is real.
When I had a test ride I found that the clutch cover stuck out and I kept noticing it pushing my calf out. It put me off the bike. Did you experience this at all?
I did notice it, but I didn't find it annoying. Also, it only happened to me when I was sitting really far forward. When sitting normally or even further back, I didn't have the clutch cover against my leg. Maybe you're taller then me (180cm)?
I noticed that on mines. You get used to it and it's not really much of an issue.
Its just my opinion, thats this bike have it to long gears 1,2,3 for enduro? I was ride it. And for me its not good that bike type enduro have first gear for example 70 kmh?
Was wanting to go to Romania,then i found out there was 8000 bears....camping just got exciting :)
Interesting comment. Can you tell something about Moto Guzzi 850 TT also?
Ok.
Nothing is perfect in this world but Yamaha Manage to do an incredible job with the T7. Simple motorcycle and reliable! I think there marketing department miss something with the distribution of the bike around the world but otherwise, Wow! Can't wait to get mine and ride here in Québec Canada . Again, great job Yamaha!!
I am 95kg with all riding gear on, front and rear suspension is in mid setting except rear preload to max great all round fast scatching through the twisties and just soft enough to manually push front down to jump logs and wheely obstocles. Throttle twich is not bad ive had worst bikes. The commputer is annoying when im trying to read instant L/100 as it takes so long (really long ) its a distraction and takes my concentration from the road, ive never had that in any bike or car for that matter. The rest of the bike is a work of ARTISTIC engineering. Love your videos cheers.
I think that is a very capable bike... really good looking fun to ride.. in my opinion this bike is closer to compare with the new v strom 650 xt than the KTM 790 and BMW 850...
Maybe a simular talk about the KTM 790? Im in the market for a ADV bike and i have tested All the midsize models, but i keep leaning towards the 790, eventhough its abit more costly, even the demo bike i have been looking at.
Thanks for the videos, i look forward to every new video you guys upload.
imo get 2012 990r, still best value adv option, a lot cheaper, much more character.... but only if youre experienced rider ; cheers;
790 Adventure or the 790 Adventure R??
My advice would be to just go with your gut feeling... If you feel the 790 is the most suited for you than go for that! Personally I have the Teneré 700 and loved it a bit more than the 790 but that is just taste. Don't let a reviewer tell you which is best for you, only you can do that for yourself.
i have long arms and legs and i love to sit on this bike (86-88cm seat hight) but i bought the vstrom650 wich was a lot cheaper and offered more features.(200EUR extra for the vstrom extra high seat 85cm)
What I love more of the Teneré 700? Easy: the next rally version coming. 😊
Yeah, the T7 Rally looks absolutely great with the blue and yellow painting. Loving it so much.
I like that this "love an hate" is somehow fair! If you say that this bike is afforable (not cheap!) than you always have to say what is not coming with as technical features or suspension quality. Is fine if you don't need but therefore the price it not a point to compare. If you come from the other side that you want your bike to offer electronic features like traction or speed control, this bike isn't an option at all!
So I like this fair statements of this video! Thanks!
Suggestion/request for future review. Given that T7 moves away from computer assisted controls, would love to hear how rider(s) are adapting. For those of us who have gotten "lazy" with traction control, ride modes, ABS, dual brake assist, etc. what do we have to be prepared for when getting on a T7. I realize dirt bikers are gonna have their own "told you so" opportunities here but it would be an interesting opportunity to push bikes to their limit & see how they perform differently. And from a safety perspective, it could be very valuable for some who have come to rely on technology to keep the rubber side down.
You don't have to adapt, you just don't need it on this bike because it is so smooth. Plus there is something wrong with a rider if they think they can just pin it open coming out of a corner and let the computer do the rest. I'd advise anyone to get out on some loose gravel or grass and learn the break away point of any bike, it's a skill every rider should have . It's automatic to those of us coming off dirtbikes and a valuable skill to have .
I wish yamaha will make a smaller tenere 400cc 350 lbs what do you guys think
It would rock!
I would buy it, immediately.except if they fuck it up like they did with this bike. It needs ofcourse great suspension for off-road, a tank good enough for atleast 400km range, a rack for a topbox, and a passenger seat. :)
The versys 300 is very close, except for the excessive fairing and street oriented suspension.
In South America we got a Tenere 250. Discontinued already btw. It lacked a more powerful engine but the reliability is fantastic and the range is also great on that one too, and it also had enough seat to fit a pillion. Tenere 400 like that one insta buy for me :)
@@GaseousWorm versys has no power . I know the tenere 250 looks nice just needs a 400 450cc motor. Maybe now that ktm is making the 390 adv . Yamaha will get it.
Next episode....Tracer 700 pls 💪👍
I paid 8600€ for mine pre-order last sept....already done 8000 km on/off road & really have nothing negative to say about the bike. The seat was a little uncomfortable to start but now no problems.
If your really pushing it on road the engine can be thirsty. I also have a 1290 superduke & they're both sitting in the garage waiting for this crisis to be over......but when?
I consider the lack of electronics as a big plus. It's the same like with cars. The more electronics is in, the less reliable the cars are. And you really want to enjoy riding your bike. Electronic used to take control over it completely and when something bad happens with the electronics, you're stuck. Or worse in danger. People used to ride with electronics systems often cannot even break properly. Some are only using front break because the braking asistant automatically uses the rear break as well. Another plus is you can service this bike on your own and the service won't be very expensive anyway.
Got the Yamaha now also don't miss the fancy electronics. Had a BMW before just set the electronics and never touched them again I enjoyed riding not mucking around with switches I have traction control in my right wrist if it's raining I know it my brain sets it to wet simply don't miss any of it even abs can't be bothered switching it off just ride to the equipment and conditions
The headlights are awesome…..I have people flash me all the time at night because they think my brights are on. These are projector LEDs…..this is one place they didn’t cut costs. I personally think auxiliary lights would be a huge waste of money? The only thing I don’t like is the seat, it’s uncomfortable for long rides.
Please do honda Africa twin!!
ergonomics (seat/pegs/bar risers taller windshield ect) suspension at least upgrading to proper spring rates on the stock parts maybe a re-valve to match for starters ? , delete smog equip. inc cat & remap/flash ecu , add luggage and just ride it without the worries or expense i have now .......??
The Light is not bad. Consentrated and sharp.
More lamps is better, but for this price..
Don't know why, I think your accent make your video more interesting.
Bloody hell, you’ve really upset some Tenere owners with this one! 😂
Hello, please make same video with BMW F850 GSA :)
its less than 10k ..BUT.. no centre stand, optional higher seat (for people who don't fall over at traffic lights if they're not flat footed) is 300 EUR extra, no cruise control (i'd use it every time i enter the motorway/autobahn) plus a proper bash plate and some basic crash protection, plus 'fix' for the wobbly dash. (CAMÉL ADV makes a nice one).. last not least: suspension. Most testers didnt have a problem with it, but lets see how that changes over the years - I guess it is okay but nowhere near of what you get if you go for a 690/701
All the things you mentioned are addressable with mods and upgrades, my only true hate is the smallish tank/lack of range. Still want 1 tho!
Didn't say it's a bad bike. You can carry some spare fuel, I suppose.. Hate the small fuel tank, too
My tenere 700 does around 350 Kms when you drive it fully empty
Yebbut by the time you have taken the time and spent the money to make good the bad points you may as well have bought a KTM 790 Adv which is a much better spec in the first place and better bike. I think he made the point clearly that the T700 is a budget bike that you need to spend a bit of money on before you even ride to make it the bike Yamaha should have made it which is not good.
@@gelul12 last tank: 327 km ridden, 11,7 l fuel filled... not so bad (for me)
If you’re a hardcore enduro rider I fully understand why you’d choose the KTM, it’s an awesome bit of kit, but I like the simplicity, reliability and looks of the Yamaha more. Get the suspension set up for you (maybe upgrade it in a few years when it’s a bit tired), add a few mods and I’m sure you’d be very happy.
We miss you 😢
Thank you lockdown,it is force opportunity fir some good discussion..more than enough time..
Do you know why t7 don t have electronics programs?. Because it doesn t need. The engine is very easy to use, the power is delivered progessive.
I'm actually okay with the cost cutting measures Yamaha used. For example, the suspension. Even if it will cost me a grand to upgrade the Tenere's suspension, it would still be less than the price increase Yamaha would have to make to sell the bike with better suspension in the first place so that is something I will NOT complain about.
if you want to see how to ride this bike see the video of pol tarres !!! this bik is amazing and do not forget its a adventure bike ,its other bikes in comparison just wish i had one!!!!!!!
It's YAMAHA ! They will release a special model with batter suspension in a couple of years and obviously fix the brake levers and correct the display mounts . Can't wait for that model to come out 😍
yeah rights, lets wait another couple of years for Yamaha to sort out the flaws of their creation... same shite like the Honda AT, we were awaiting for the Honda AT for 2 years, cause they wanted to get it right ....after 3 years on the market they build a complete redesign .... laughable
This is the corona of midsize adventure bikes
It seems Honda will release the mid-size Africa Twin before the T7 is released. Of course we can't buy the CRF1100 either, so....
Hang on! What's this about the throttle response (5:59)? You gotta say more than that 1 unintelligible word which follows. You said more about the vibrating dash than the thing which controls the power supply.
How does the T700 compare with a f800gs
It doesn't. They are each aiming at completely different markets, different buyers. If you have the money you buy the F800GS no question. You don't even look at the T700.
@@alexmorgan3435 my last midweight bike was the F800GS. I went for T7...
If you have the money for the BMW you still get the Tenere, save a lot, do some minor upgrades if and when you need them and with the rest of the money you ride to the sunset. Cant beat its looks, reliability, performance and more.
I think Yamaha have produced a fine bike in the Tenere 700 (I'm a big Yamaha fan). However, for me I can't go past the value and performance of the KLR650. It's simple, reliable and oh so capable. I got mine for A$3000. It has taken me to some very inhospitable parts of Australia and back again many times. I'm not worried by dropping it, which I do most trips. Opinions vary, but for me while I'd like the Yamaha in my garage I'll stick with the KLR and spend more money on the actual adventures.
Do the KTM 790
Yeh Right Honest, :-)
Глаза "надуло" на мотике и улыбка до ушей ))
waiting same about KTM and BMW!
ikr
Yamaha all the way
Versys x 300 as next one!
La mejor moto trail del mundo
Every woman has her charms: Rather than the usual "this is best ADV bike in the world chats", why not go through the different ADV bikes you've ridden and tell us what each one is really good at with regards to travelling i.e. The Africa Twin is a cross country bike because, but sucks at...
so its better to buy the KTM 790 adventure R and give the extra money :-)
great review
The 790 is fugley and has too many engine problems.
So your'e saying basically its so crap you need to upgrade most of it, might as well just buy something else? Why not just enjoy it for what it is and ride it the way it was meant to be ridden?