For anyone wanting to try this out, here's a link to my Logic Template and the 'Orch Empty' Divisimate patch www.dropbox.com/sh/r5rfboofcscsj9p/AADM8I71ppd81Q2O9SvCQpwXa?dl=1
I totally didn't expect that but I found this video the most inspiring thing I've seen in a long time. Not only because of the awesome tool but thanks to your amazing skills. It's sooo pleasurable to watch/hear a pro like you going through such a variety of styles using just sampled orchestra. It reminds me in how amazing times we live in and that we literally have so realistically sounding orchestra under our fingers. I need to try this Divisimate by myself!
Do you mean less heavy on system resources? I’d probably lean more on ensemble patches and only use solo legato instruments where absolutely necessary- or use rubbish sounding samples and then re record later with better samples and using freeze or live instruments. On my current laptop, though, this kind of setup is totally doable as long as there aren’t any CPU spikes as a result of bugs.
Thinking of writing a .mid to repeater preset converter, unless someone already has. The arp-style semitone sliders are a bit tedious, but the preset picker traverses folders, so we could dump all our Scaler or Strummed Guitar patterns and whatnot in there and batch convert.
Won't work. Mistook the velocity sliders for semitones... :/ Maybe a sequencer that receives input note and chord+program changes on separate channels could sit in between. The next hunt begins...
Lovely/tasteful spontaneous comp skills! Is the cello SWAM? Does divisimate add latency and thus the need to use audio modeling to achieve a low latency. Would cinimatic studio strings become even more unbearable to compose with in realtime? Thx for the great video i really dig your channel!
Hey there! Glad you enjoyed the video. Have a look on the description for the full list of instruments. I’m using a layered css sketching patch (non legato strings plus a shorts latch for the attach ) here. Using Css legatos as part of the setup is totally doable I just like the flexibility of having polyphonic patches for real time improvisation.
@@vincecomposer thx for the reply i feel a bit foolish not having checked the description in more detail. You have everything dialed in so nicely and it is so generous of you to share your recipes. This is the kind of set up that i will soon emulate and may not leave the studio for months on end. Thx a million
Thanks! Nothing particularly fancy with the setup - the main trick is all of the software instruments I've chosen for my setup are capable of playing a variety of articulations without any keyswitching. Apart from that it's just a question of setting them up as per the divisimate manual and balancing them to taste. Let me know if you have any specific questions!
@@vincecomposer Iam interested in setting up reverb .. I loved them. And second the strings .. how did you layered with swam solo. And what is the modifier doing on all tracks
@@akshaygurav9855 Ah ok - I've added some details about the reverb settings to the video description. Regarding the modifiers, I just tend to use those to determine how the instruments respond to the vibrato CC input (which I control with bite). So for instance clarinet, I used the modifier to turn it off completely and on some other instruments I have the value scaled so it's more subtle and blends better in an ensemble context. With the string layering I just put the two (e.g. cello) instruments in a track stack, balanced the volumes and then assign the track stack to the Divisimate appropriate channel. Hope that makes sense?
This is a great way to explore sound colouring/voicing. Noodle paradise. Don't really know much about Divisimate. Pity about the resolution on your video. I need to do a bit of research on this. Thanks, Vince. PS - Which brass and wind libraries are you using?
Hey Martin, yes unfortunately I don't have a 4k monitor so it loses quality when i zoom in. Brass - Infinite Brass, Woodwinds - SWAM series (other instruments listed in the description)
Well done! In curious, once you have this level of flexibility, do you use it for everything? Do you still go back to templates that have key switches and whatnot? Love divisimate, and this is perhaps my favorite video I’ve seen using it
Hiya! Glad you enjoyed the video. To be clear, right now I pretty much only use divisimate for improvisation and having fun. But I do generally use samples without key switching for as much as possible. The reason i would bring in a traditional sample with key switches is always because I prefer the tone of thar sample for a particular musical context. It’s very content dependent! I don’t normally use templates due to the kind of projects I work on
Amazing thing you shared.. Can we use padel controller instead of breath and bite controller.. because I am singing also while I play.. is it possible??
I split my midi keyboard to play different midi channels, then selectively arm the tracks I want to audition. Is that not the same thing that this is accomplishing? Not knocking it... Genuinely asking about the contrasting benefits.
Cool, I might have to try that! Do you do that using the keyboards own firmware? Yes, it’s achieves the same thing but only partially - this program also can split the individual notes of a chord to separate channels, which can be handy eg if you want to play chords end up with 1 track per trombone part for example
@@vincecomposer I see, thanks! It definitely seems like it takes some manual effort away from what I'm currently doing, plus selectively arming tracks can get messy in my large templates.. And yes, I'm using the Arturia Keylab 88mkii which allows me to split the keyboard (via their control software) into separate midi channels. In Cubase, I assign higher melodic instruments to Channel 1 and lower instruments to channel 2 and selectively arm those tracks.
Ahhh I just saw you add the violin to the top line in the upper zone! I cannot do that with my setup. That violin would be playing the full chord in the upper zone. Now it makes sense!
Hiya! I removed the midi mapping for sustain pedal on the horn instruments (Infinite assigns it to legato bypass by default). Alternatively you can use a Modifier or Scripter plugin to block or redirect the incoming the sustain pedal CC signal.
So basically the cc1 and cc11 are controlled by your controller (faders, breath controller and whatnot) for ALL the instruments at the same time right?
Yes that's correct. You can customise how the CC values impact each instrument using modifiers in Logic (for example with piano I make sure that CC11 won't affect the dynamics and just use velocity). But in general with this setup it's not possible to do a quiet sustained trumpet simultaneously with a loud sustained flute for example, without tailoring the template on a case by case basis. FYI i just send one CC stream (CC11) to control the dynamics of everything (and map it in the instruments accordingly)
@@vincecomposer ok, thanks for reply. I need to upgrade my PC so that it can run divisimate better. It is a relatively new computer (2022). But there is only 16 Gb of ram. Would you recommend ram upgrade?
@@janneckchristiansen2778 It all depends on what samples you want to use and how big an ensemble you want to create. This template used Infinite Brass and SWAM woodwinds both of which are very light on RAM.
For anyone wanting to try this out, here's a link to my Logic Template and the 'Orch Empty' Divisimate patch www.dropbox.com/sh/r5rfboofcscsj9p/AADM8I71ppd81Q2O9SvCQpwXa?dl=1
One of the Best Divisimate video's I have seen. I could watch vids like this all day
I totally didn't expect that but I found this video the most inspiring thing I've seen in a long time. Not only because of the awesome tool but thanks to your amazing skills. It's sooo pleasurable to watch/hear a pro like you going through such a variety of styles using just sampled orchestra. It reminds me in how amazing times we live in and that we literally have so realistically sounding orchestra under our fingers. I need to try this Divisimate by myself!
Great to hear Rafal! It really is amazing times for musicians :)
Brilliant. Thank you for sharing your time and expertise with us.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you very much for showing me this very valuable and inspiring insight into your way of working! ❤🙏👍
You got me hooked from that first part with the clarinet bassoon and cello ❤
Im blown away. Im curious what kind of setup you would use had you had to go lighter.
Do you mean less heavy on system resources? I’d probably lean more on ensemble patches and only use solo legato instruments where absolutely necessary- or use rubbish sounding samples and then re record later with better samples and using freeze or live instruments. On my current laptop, though, this kind of setup is totally doable as long as there aren’t any CPU spikes as a result of bugs.
33:46 Laughed out loud when your unexpected reaction, only seconds later, perfectly mirrored mine!
so inspiring to see you just noodle away and come across some gems
More noodles in the pipeline!
Some lovely orchestral inprovisations Vince. Divisimate is really great for exploring tectures in a fun way.
Cheers Mark! Hours of fun ;)
As someone who always starts improvising in c-/Eb+, I love this video :D
But yeah, this is genuinely inspiring. Good stuff, man.
So beautiful colors and ideas!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thinking of writing a .mid to repeater preset converter, unless someone already has. The arp-style semitone sliders are a bit tedious, but the preset picker traverses folders, so we could dump all our Scaler or Strummed Guitar patterns and whatnot in there and batch convert.
Won't work. Mistook the velocity sliders for semitones... :/ Maybe a sequencer that receives input note and chord+program changes on separate channels could sit in between. The next hunt begins...
Lovely/tasteful spontaneous comp skills! Is the cello SWAM? Does divisimate add latency and thus the need to use audio modeling to achieve a low latency. Would cinimatic studio strings become even more unbearable to compose with in realtime? Thx for the great video i really dig your channel!
Hey there! Glad you enjoyed the video. Have a look on the description for the full list of instruments. I’m using a layered css sketching patch (non legato strings plus a shorts latch for the attach ) here. Using Css legatos as part of the setup is totally doable I just like the flexibility of having polyphonic patches for real time improvisation.
oh and I think i layered an instance of Swam cello with the sketching patch for detail!
@@vincecomposer thx for the reply i feel a bit foolish not having checked the description in more detail. You have everything dialed in so nicely and it is so generous of you to share your recipes. This is the kind of set up that i will soon emulate and may not leave the studio for months on end. Thx a million
Fantastic Performance !! Do you have a video on this template setup ? how did you setup with these libraries ? Would love to see that ..
Thanks! Nothing particularly fancy with the setup - the main trick is all of the software instruments I've chosen for my setup are capable of playing a variety of articulations without any keyswitching. Apart from that it's just a question of setting them up as per the divisimate manual and balancing them to taste. Let me know if you have any specific questions!
@@vincecomposer Iam interested in setting up reverb .. I loved them.
And second the strings .. how did you layered with swam solo. And what is the modifier doing on all tracks
@@akshaygurav9855 Ah ok - I've added some details about the reverb settings to the video description. Regarding the modifiers, I just tend to use those to determine how the instruments respond to the vibrato CC input (which I control with bite). So for instance clarinet, I used the modifier to turn it off completely and on some other instruments I have the value scaled so it's more subtle and blends better in an ensemble context. With the string layering I just put the two (e.g. cello) instruments in a track stack, balanced the volumes and then assign the track stack to the Divisimate appropriate channel. Hope that makes sense?
@@vincecomposer thank you so much for detailed response!!❤
This is a great way to explore sound colouring/voicing. Noodle paradise. Don't really know much about Divisimate. Pity about the resolution on your video. I need to do a bit of research on this. Thanks, Vince. PS - Which brass and wind libraries are you using?
Hey Martin, yes unfortunately I don't have a 4k monitor so it loses quality when i zoom in. Brass - Infinite Brass, Woodwinds - SWAM series (other instruments listed in the description)
@@vincecomposer OK. Thanks.
Well done! In curious, once you have this level of flexibility, do you use it for everything? Do you still go back to templates that have key switches and whatnot? Love divisimate, and this is perhaps my favorite video I’ve seen using it
Hiya! Glad you enjoyed the video. To be clear, right now I pretty much only use divisimate for improvisation and having fun. But I do generally use samples without key switching for as much as possible. The reason i would bring in a traditional sample with key switches is always because I prefer the tone of thar sample for a particular musical context. It’s very content dependent! I don’t normally use templates due to the kind of projects I work on
@@vincecomposer appreciate you sharing your process! Thanks!
Amazing thing you shared..
Can we use padel controller instead of breath and bite controller.. because I am singing also while I play.. is it possible??
Pedal controller for dynamics... Is it possible??
@@bonnyonkeys7428 absolutely! orchestra plus live vocals would be amazing :) I want to see a video of this
I split my midi keyboard to play different midi channels, then selectively arm the tracks I want to audition. Is that not the same thing that this is accomplishing? Not knocking it... Genuinely asking about the contrasting benefits.
Cool, I might have to try that! Do you do that using the keyboards own firmware? Yes, it’s achieves the same thing but only partially - this program also can split the individual notes of a chord to separate channels, which can be handy eg if you want to play chords end up with 1 track per trombone part for example
@@vincecomposer I see, thanks! It definitely seems like it takes some manual effort away from what I'm currently doing, plus selectively arming tracks can get messy in my large templates.. And yes, I'm using the Arturia Keylab 88mkii which allows me to split the keyboard (via their control software) into separate midi channels. In Cubase, I assign higher melodic instruments to Channel 1 and lower instruments to channel 2 and selectively arm those tracks.
@@vincecomposer BTW, your improve skills were well worth the watch, regardless of the software used.
Ahhh I just saw you add the violin to the top line in the upper zone! I cannot do that with my setup. That violin would be playing the full chord in the upper zone. Now it makes sense!
How are you able to get the piano sustain to work without triggering it to sustain horns solo?
Hiya! I removed the midi mapping for sustain pedal on the horn instruments (Infinite assigns it to legato bypass by default). Alternatively you can use a Modifier or Scripter plugin to block or redirect the incoming the sustain pedal CC signal.
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So basically the cc1 and cc11 are controlled by your controller (faders, breath controller and whatnot) for ALL the instruments at the same time right?
Yes that's correct. You can customise how the CC values impact each instrument using modifiers in Logic (for example with piano I make sure that CC11 won't affect the dynamics and just use velocity). But in general with this setup it's not possible to do a quiet sustained trumpet simultaneously with a loud sustained flute for example, without tailoring the template on a case by case basis. FYI i just send one CC stream (CC11) to control the dynamics of everything (and map it in the instruments accordingly)
What are the specs on your computer?
hi! This video was recorded using a 2013 'trash can' Mac Pro with 64GB of ram. Nowadays I use an M1 Macbook Pro also with 64gb of ram.
@@vincecomposer ok, thanks for reply. I need to upgrade my PC so that it can run divisimate better. It is a relatively new computer (2022). But there is only 16 Gb of ram. Would you recommend ram upgrade?
@@janneckchristiansen2778 It all depends on what samples you want to use and how big an ensemble you want to create. This template used Infinite Brass and SWAM woodwinds both of which are very light on RAM.