I can see right through you Shannon, you've been hiding this whole time that you only like the Ducks, and you've been hiding it by being as fair in your analysis as you can towards all teams
shannon, you don't have to justify yourself. everyone has their own definition of "fandom", sometimes its "they can never be wrong and if you're not like me you're not a fan" and sometimes its "i will express my love for this team by shitting on everything against them" keep up the great work!
I'm only 24 and I feel the same way about the Canucks. I'm cautious. You know why? Because I care about the Canucks. I care, and I don't want to let myself get excited only to be let down again. That's an emotional response. I'd say it's akin to a trauma response in a way. I am deeply emotionally invested in the Canucks. That's what makes me a fan and it's what makes you a fan. Screw those guys for saying you're not.
I hear you I was too cocky during 2011 when they were in the finals and thought lord Stanley is coming home only to watch it blew up in my face not making that mistake again.
I'm not a leafs fan. But seeing how Steve dangle is like the regular season. You see how Steve loses and gains hope constantly. A long time fan thinks differently than other fans. I liked THG more than Steve due to his maturity about his team.
You have to be one of the most practical Canucks fan. You have supported the Canucks but have a realistic viewpoint from your 40 plus years of watching them. It’s hard to support a losing team (with some but few spectacular years) but there you are still supporting them. I congratulate you on your realistic view of the Canucks it is refreshing to see. All the best to you during this holiday season. Go Canucks Go. From a fellow hockey fan.
You're the best Hockey person out there. You're smart, fair, and very reasonable. I used to only watch my team, but since I found your channel I follow the entire league much much more.
How can you guys nearly reduce this guy to nearly tears? I never comment on anything. Ever. This is our guy. The Hockey Guy. Come on guys and girls. We all love this sport.
@@matt0395 Guess what bud. He does. He's cheered for Vancouver his entire life, and Boston ever since he was a teenager. He mentioned it in a video last year I think when Boston was dominating the league. Let the man be a fan of as many teams as he wants.
Depends on what you mean by "critique". As a Leafs fan, it's insufferable in the comments after a loss, which EVERY team endures, EVERY YEAR. Someone always needs to be traded, fired, sent down, is complete "garbage", etc. I hate 90% of the online fanbase, I really do.
Hey Shannon! I know it’s easy to say don’t let these comments get to you, but it’s easier said then done. You make hockey accessible to everyone, and you make league wide breakdown and fun videos. I look forward to your videos at the end of every night and your takes on the league. Thank you for doing what your doing, don’t let idiots get you down. You do amazing things.
Shannon your channel is one of my favorite to get unbiased commentary on Canucks games with a even handed mix of reporting the scores, notable plays and opinion as well. I also remember the 94 and 2011 runs and heartbreak and favor your cautious approach to optimism of our club. Have always been a subscriber to your main channel, and because of this video, just subscribed to The Entertainment Guy channel too. Go Canucks Go!
Some people think being a fan means you can't be cautious in your optimism. If anything being cautious shows you know your history with a team and you have seen certain songs and dances before. Just means you are an informed fan
Other people think you can't be a fan unless you talk your team down after a win: "This team will fall off before Christmas. None of you know what you are talking about. Garbage win. This means nothing."😂
@@bartsanders1553 I was referring to The Hockey Guy in reference to Canucks, since that is what this video is about. Of course fans can be super happy about their team and never speak negatively about them. The Hockey Guy isn't saying people can't do that. My post said "Some people", not all people. Nor did I say you can't be happy about your team. I was saying in this context, The Hockey Guy knows the history of the Canucks and is an informed fan, so he has a right to be cautious in his optimism. But other than that, good joke haha
@@bartsanders1553 Sorry man, I re-read and gotcha. It looked like it mirrored my message but just opposite so it looked like mocking hahaha. Thanks for explaining
I’m 47 and have been a canucks fan since dad sat me in front of the tv at age 4. I completely understand your stance on the canucks and I appreciate all the work you do on ALL nhl teams. It’s great to be a canucks fan but the game of hockey deserves to be celebrated as well. Keep doing what you’re doing! If it wasn’t for you, I wouldn’t know what was happening around the league. Keep hope alive! Go Canucks Go!
I love the amount of professionalism you are trying to put in your videos. I've seen quite a bit of backlash to any negativity towards the Canucks lately. Sad state of things with people demanding blind praise to them.
I can't stand people who gatekeep fandom. "Oh, you're not a real fan because you don't think like I do". I don't think anyone does themselves any good by being unrealistic about whatever team (or teams) they cheer for.
Shannon does an excellent job being neutral for the channel and still being an avid Canucks fan. Gotta be hard, especially when he mentions the teams he is not a fan of because they beat the North Stars and The Canucks in the finals and knocked Boston out a few times(Islanders). Even then he resists the temptation to really lay into a team.😊
Oh man. Twitter / X is a total cesspool of ignorance. Shannon my friend - I just turned 50, I’m a lifelong Canucks fan and I agree with your analysis 100%. You’re the only guy I trust on them.
Twitter can be an absolute toxic dump, Shannon. I wouldn't worry about what some people on there say, all your subscribers and supporters know otherwise!
The amount of canuck fans who hate Shannon because he “Hates the Canucks” because he’s “Too Negative” is Absured. Shannon is the most fair fan i’ve come across. Will defend this gem to the end. Never Change, THG!
I never understand the whole "you can't be a fan of this team if they annoy or frustrate you and you don't worry about how things are going" argument. To me the a big part of the appeal of sports fandom is that you get this shared experience of suffering and worry and frustration with an entire fan base, and then when your team breaks through (whatever breaking through looks like in their context) it's genuinely electrifying. Or at least that's how I justify being a Ranger fan since I got Blades of Steel as one of my first three NES games in 1991 and "New Jersey" wasn't there but "New York" was so I decided I was a Ranger fan...hey, I was 6, it made as much sense as anything else.
Hey Shannon I understand how you feel, my dad is around your age and when he talks about the canucks he always says “they’ll find a way to fuck it up”. The years of heartbreak takes a toll. He gave up watching hockey after 2011, and only got back recently. Big Habs fan too. It’s too bad but that feeling runs deep with older fans. A lot of younger fans like me don’t really get it Also I feel like it’s a lot easier to be critical towards your own team cause you tend to watch them more (maybe not in your case) easier to give the other team the benefit of the doubt. You love the Canucks so much so you hold them to the highest standards Thanks for being awesome
Brother, I do the same shit with the Rangers, and the same shit gets said to me. But you know what, over half the time, I’m right, and a lot of that has to do with the fact that I watch multiple teams regularly, mainly two, ironically the Canucks being the other one, so I have a much more objective outlook than I otherwise would. That way i see each team in the league roughly twice as much as I normally would if I was only a rangers fan, and I get more of a sense of what’s going on. I also just have the tendency to focus on what the team I’m cheering for needs to work on, and not if they get a bad call against, or if there was an unfortunate bounce. Then I get called a bad fan for that. For example, say trouba throws a questionable hit, and say he does undoubtedly cross the line upon further look’s, I’m the first guy to call that out because i hate that kind of play. In my point of view, and this only really happened when I picked up the canucks as a second team, and I do the same thing for them as well, is that blindly cheering for everything your favorite team does, and thinking your favorite team can do no wrong, is an ignorant way of watching the sport and it’ll get you into more nonsensical arguments than it’s worth. Spend two minutes looking in the hockey chat discord and you’ll see my point.
Shannon, that is my single favorite jersey I've ever seen you wear. Despite that, you really need to submit your TPS report...And I'll also need you to work on Saturday...Ohh, and yeaah, I'll also need you to come in on Sunday.
The comments you’re getting are either 15 year old fans or bandwagon canucks fans. You’re doing a great job, and as a Canucks fan myself I’ve never thought your criticism of the Canucks has been unfair
Dude you are a beauty. I’m a hockey fan first, Canucks second and a very controversial as a nucks guy Chicago fan third. Van has won some games lately that they looked like absolute hot garbage in some periods. I have agreed with all your rankings and look forward to seeing them. Keep doing your thing buddy, your page is going to grow and you will do amazing.
As your channel grows, you will invariably attract some of the louder, less intelligent among us. Ignore those guys; they're definitely not the majority.
To say Twitter can be weird is an understatement. It really brings home the fact that while the Intertubes gives you access to the World, it also gives the World access to you, and there are a lot of nutters and trolls out there. Keep up the good work!
Ive been a Canucks fan my entire life (19 years). I know that isnt a very long time, but my dad, has been around since they came into the League. And from all the things Ive witnessed and all the shit Ive heard, I get why Shannon is cautious. I am too. I get why he didnt put us #1 in power rankings either. We havent been playing our best hockey the last few games, were slow coming out in the first which results in us being down a goal early. Yeah we get that goal back at some point, but if we want the Canucks to be #1 in power rankings, they have to play like it. They gotta play the full 60 minutes. Edit: I get why youre waiting for everything to go bad again. Its classic Canucks hockey where we start to do good, and then it goes bad. Happened to us too many times. And who knows, they could be #1 in the power rankings that get posted later today, we wont know until the video is out. The Canucks were at 5 last week, I can see us moving up to a maximum of #2, I still dont think we're playing #1 hockey for power rankings, but I dont know what all Shannon puts into the way he makes his power rankings, we could be #1 but like I said, we wont know until later tonight.
Great coverage of all 32 teams! When I watch a broadcast of any sport I expect the commentators to be neutral to all teams. When they are homers, I change the channel.
The internet is a weird place. People can say whatever they want, whether it makes sense or not. I’ve been accused of the same thing. I’ve only been watching since 1990 and I’ve got serious Canucks PTSD. When people insist I’m not a Canucks fan because I say I need to see more to convince me that they’re for real and not just a pretender despite their amazing start, I’m accused of being a hater. Welcome to social media in 2023. People say things they’d never say to you in person sober, and delight in starting Facebook and Twitter (sorry, X 🤢 ) Wars. Apparently hockey is like politics. You have a team you cheer for and any criticism at all or hesitation in your full and undying support is a betrayal and you’re obviously a troll who hates their side and supports someone else. It’s why I don’t have a blog anymore. I have enough anxiety. Well, keep doing what you’re doing, because there are more people who support you than those who want to tear you down.
Unfortunately, there are too many haters and trolls on social media these days. They're desperate for attention and know they'll get it by acting out, and it works. I agree that if you don't like something, you stay away from it, not run towards it. There's a few haters/trolls that are on every video possible of the Leafs, who I follow the most, and 1 troll in specific that is usually very early to comment the same stupid things everytime. The big difference is this 1 has a put 7 burner accounts to comment on the comment they originally left but with a different account. This person will literally have a conversation with themself using different accounts. Some just love and need that attention no matter where it comes from. I do believe you're biased in some regards, I don't believe that you're not a Cunucks fan. A real fan can talk the good and bad of the team they cheer for without becoming insulting or claiming someone needs to be traded, fired, sent down or is just "garbage". Many have alot to learn.
The thumbnail could've been Jim's look from the office. I highly appreciate your fair analysis of all the teams in the league, and I dig that your power rankings have so many good factors in play. Good on you, eff the haters!
Historically I've been a one team guy, and that's changed over time. Habs when I was really young because of Dryden, Oilers(Gretzky) and now the Canucks( since Brodeur and Linden) but the realization after watching this video that you've helped me appreciate other teams and the game as a whole is eye opening, I mean, I've been cheering for the leafs this year! Thanks Shannon, keep on trucking 👍
@@suchaguf8974 Ahh, I didnt know we had a Brodeur on our team, I dont know much about the 82' team. Havent really looked into it since I dont wanna see the ending where we get swept in the Finals.
@@IanStrain23328 S'all goodman, '82 was the team that captured an entire province's hearts and cemented the nucks as B.C.'s team. 👍😁👍 I guess now that I think about it, the '94 team cemented it, '82 just got the party started. The '24 team is sure feeling like the championship team to be sure. The Vancouver Canucks are good.
I've said this under one of your power ranking videos recently and ill say it again here, I can not and will not understand how any canucks fan can be mad at you for not having the canucks at first. First off, they shouldn't be. Secondly, just the fact that they are even in the conversation for being even close to first should be seen as a blessing from the hockey gods. We have seen garbage year after year especially in recent years. This has been a miracle year so far and I will not be taking it for granted and even though I think they're legit I still don't believe it 100% and I will tread carefully. So any fans giving you shit for that baffles me to no end, be thankful
Funny as a Wings fan I know their not your favorite team and I understand why but never felt like you hate on them or treat them/ fan base any different from others. Think you do a great job keeping it balanced for everyone, these guys just don’t have anything better to do with their lives. And I hope for all the long suffering Canucks fans that this team is real and makes a deep run this year want a Canadian team to win so badly lol
well said from a fellow Wings fan and since our team are on a slide and might miss playoffs I'd be happy seeing a Canadian team win and if its the Canucks that's great if it made Shannon happy! 👍
Don't let comments like this guy's bother you, Shannon. As someone who works in Social Media - I know it's super hard to do, but you need to just ignore them. Most people are known as "keyboard warriors" as they would never say this to your face. I have no idea how you do such a good job as so unbiased in your videos as you have for years now on this channel. Anyone who watches your videos should give you the utmost respect for that. It wouldn't be professional to cover every NHL team and be biased against the Canucks just because of your fandom. As I always say, just keep doing everything that you're doing as the GOAT of Hockey TH-cam!
Love your takes. The world today is full of haters, so please try to ignore them. I agree with with your rankings as you do them objectively. Most annalists had the Canucks not making the playoffs and that includes most members of Canuck Nation. So 33 games in there numbers are great but it is 33 of 82 games. I think at this stage the Canucks are for real but lets see how they do in 2024 to the playoffs. We have been terrible for a decade so many of us want to take this short term success in stride. Go Canucks! Shannon just keep doing what you're doing as your the best at it. Happy Holidays to all.
I think the problem is they didn't get a copy of the memo. Maybe one of your 8 bosses can send it to them. Love the sweater, I was just referencing Office Space earlier today.
THG is a hockey fan first, and fans of teams second. He has a true passion for the sport and provides his opinion on every team. Thats what makes his channel so good. Don't listen to these clowns theyre not even worth addressing. They cant be reasoned with
It's crazy that it's gotten to a point where you have to explain yourself in a video for this, for nimwits who just want a forever echochamber. I guess it's time for The Canuck Guy channel #3!
PS. I love listening to you because you are the most unbiased person I know 👍 PPS. That other Canucks fan needs a bug-ectomy😱 PPPS. I've been a Ranger fan all my life (60+ years). But there were plenty of years where they were stinkers. There were plenty of years where they were good but self destructed in the playoffs. I never pulled punches with them. You've heard my disappointment with them when warranted. PPPPS. I've been an unbiased fan myself. Listening to you has only made me even more unbiased. 👍
You are my favorite youtuber. You are fair and realistic and hilarious and I don't care that you hate the Devils (JK). You're amazing. Your videos are amazing.
Long time watcher, first time commenter… Just wanted to say that I love your videos and I hope these trolls don’t get you down too much. It’s clear how much effort you put into providing an unbiased look at the league and I think you do a fantastic job. Also, the fact that some of them say you’re not a fan because you’re MORE critical of your favorite team is silly IMO. Even if you are a little harder on the Canucks, it’s obviously because you’re just way more invested in their success. Anyways, keep it up and know there’s plenty of us out here that appreciate what you do!
I think you are doing a great job. Sure there are some fans who think their team is the best when things are going good, or the worst if things are going bad. But that isn`t what this show is. These fans just tune in to hear you praise their team. They probably don`t even listen to the rest of the video. You don`t make this show for them. This show is an opinion based report on the league based on stats and trends. You do an awesome job, keep your head up and stick on the ice my guy!
love the channel! how many times a team breaks your heart is irrelevant. you are in a position to have a perspective that only a proportionate few of the youtube community have. that should be enough. keep up the good work!
Haters gonna hate. I used to only watch Rangers games but thanks to Shannon I have become a much more well-rounded hockey fan. It upsets me to see you affected by the mouth-breathing trolls, keep up the good work my man!
Sounds like these twitter guys want you to be like the Toronto TH-cam channels that only cover the Leafs and only think Leaf players are good and claim they watch other teams but they don't know anything going on outside of Leafs Nation. It's understandable to want your team to be #1 but if they don't like your rakings they can do their own. Or just don't watch. This is the only channel where I actually believe the TH-camr watches the games. So many hockey channels have guys that go off on what's wrong with a team or what they need but if you listen to them you can tell they haven't watched games and are only looking at stats.
You're the most Even Keeled Reporter on anything that I follow on youtube. There are teams in the NHL that I dispise for the conduct of some of their former players And I couldn't report on those teams fairly and honestly. My bias against them would creep in and my bias for the canucks woulds creep in for the canucks. I don't know how the heck you do it and be so awesome.
As a fellow Canuck fan, I see your pain for over 40 years and have mad respect. These folks commenting negatively are the epitome of wrestling with a pig. You’re gonna get dirty, and chances are, the pig is gonna like it.
I know it's easy to say don't mind those comments but they really get you although most comments are positive. You can be Canucks fan and still be a hockey fan. Also you give us the best hockey content out there so thanks for that Shannon! Some people just don't get it.
Thg has to deal with this yet I live in Toronto and it's perfectly fine for their media to actually be biased. Shannon reality is ppl will complain either way, just be you.
The Caps fan base is very similar. I have been a Caps fan since 1974. So my heart has been broken many times as well. But, if I dare to point out that they are the second oldest team in the league (thankfully they have been calling up younger players recently) or mention that the power play is awful on the fan forums, I get called a fake Caps fan.
People tend to forget power rankings don't equal the standings, cause if they did there would be no point to the power rankings. Shannon, keep up the good work, really enjoy your content and appreciate the hard work you put in.
The problem in the first place are people who have black and white definitions about anything. Being a fan doesn't mean that you can't be practical or realistic about it. You can still support the team and want them to do well but have expectations that they won't win the cup in any given year. It should be common sense but those people just won't get it. You're a fan of the sport, THG and any reasonable person can see that. Keep up the great work!
I hate my team right now, but I watch your channel because I feel like you keep it balanced. I refuse to watch a lot of the mainstream media because they are either overhyped for your team or their perspective is so shallow it just makes their comments vacuous.
This is a hockey channel that Shannon has built from the gound up for years He covers all 32 teams believe it or not it's allowed. If you want a good Canucks fandom channel. Head on over to Kempner Canucks. Keep up the good work Shannon!
I don’t have any issues with your coverage. The only thing I question is why as Canucks fans do many of us feel the need to cheer cautiously? We’re allowed to cheer and be happy if they are doing well. We can do it immediately too. There’s no need to wait and see. I don’t get this mentality. We understand there’s been disappointment in the past but that should not stop us from being happy for a short period of success. They should not have to prove their worth to us. Are we so afraid of a potential disappointment that we can’t cheer for them ? Isn’t that part of the roller coaster of sports fandom ? The hockey guy coverage is acceptable but I question all of us Canucks fans who feel the need to wait and see before being happy about new success. Yes it may go bad. But that can happen at any time. Even after your artificial wait and see time period has passed. I say let’s just enjoy the ride. Don’t be afraid to cheer or to be happy or get your hopes up based on team success. That’s when it’s fun. When the hopes are up. Cheers fellow Canucks fans.
Canucks have broken my heart before, so before I go all in on Canucks again, I need reality check from someone who looks at every team objectively. keep up the good work. Having said that, I also appreciate you making this video to give your perspective. At the end, adds more credibility
Many years ago, I met a Canadian guy who could not stand the Canucks, which sort of surprised me. I would understand disliking successful teams like Montreal or overexposed teams, like Toronto. But I didnt understand hating the Canucks as they have never won anything. I'd always felt kinship with Canucks fans, as like my team, they had never won. After my team won, I was hoping long-suffering Vancouver fans could experience that joy. But a few years back, I encountered some Canuck fans during a playoff series and I really could not believe the level of arrogance. It put me off the Canucks completely.
Very simple Shannon, you're a professional. We all have biases, but as a professional, you give credit where it's due and criticism when it's warranted. If you show preference or favoritism to the Canucks, you'll lose all credibility to hockey fans. The truth hurts but it'll also set you free.
It is so weird to me how many people there are, that do not understand or identify satire, sarcasm and tongue in cheek humor. Those comments on that Twitter account are so cringey. Wouldn’t be surprised if one of them were the person that left that childish rant/comment that you made the video about.
If you don't have unbridled non-stop optimism towards your team, and downgrade every effort of the opposition as pure luck and not skill, you're not a fan. An other kind of fan is the typical "everything's bad and I will never see them win anything". Both are so tiring. The loudest people online are those who see things as either pitchblack or angelic white. Personally, the ones I respect the most are the ones who actually have a gray-scale of emotions and analyzes, with your own team, the opposition and the league as a whole. You're one of those. Never change.
I think you have been fair to all teams. You can be proud of the teams you cheer for but still acknowledge that there are other better teams out there. That is why some people cheer for the underdogs.
People who are all in on a team, right or wrong, are exhausting. The wild swings from love to hate in 15 minutes during a game makes me just not watch any stuff. You're the only hockey content I watch unless there's a GM press conference for the Flyers. I don't care what idiot reporters ask tired hockey players in the locker room. And I absolutely don't care about random people screaming about everything.
I saw this thread when it went down. Think its pretty clear these people either don't actually listen to what he says or watch at all because we have had this sort of discussion a billion times
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I can see right through you Shannon, you've been hiding this whole time that you only like the Ducks, and you've been hiding it by being as fair in your analysis as you can towards all teams
shannon, you don't have to justify yourself. everyone has their own definition of "fandom", sometimes its "they can never be wrong and if you're not like me you're not a fan" and sometimes its "i will express my love for this team by shitting on everything against them" keep up the great work!
You can't cheer for Boston if you're a canucks fan are you daft
This is our Hockey Guy. He does this for all of us. We all need to support him. Canucks fans need to stop this. The team is doing so well.
Nah, let's commit to the purity spiral until nobody qualifies as a fan.😂
I'm only 24 and I feel the same way about the Canucks. I'm cautious. You know why? Because I care about the Canucks. I care, and I don't want to let myself get excited only to be let down again. That's an emotional response. I'd say it's akin to a trauma response in a way. I am deeply emotionally invested in the Canucks. That's what makes me a fan and it's what makes you a fan. Screw those guys for saying you're not.
I hear you I was too cocky during 2011 when they were in the finals and thought lord Stanley is coming home only to watch it blew up in my face not making that mistake again.
I'm not a leafs fan. But seeing how Steve dangle is like the regular season. You see how Steve loses and gains hope constantly. A long time fan thinks differently than other fans. I liked THG more than Steve due to his maturity about his team.
You have to be one of the most practical Canucks fan. You have supported the Canucks but have a realistic viewpoint from your 40 plus years of watching them. It’s hard to support a losing team (with some but few spectacular years) but there you are still supporting them. I congratulate you on your realistic view of the Canucks it is refreshing to see. All the best to you during this holiday season. Go Canucks Go. From a fellow hockey fan.
He doesn't truly support the canucks if he also cheers for the bruins know your shitbud
You're the best Hockey person out there. You're smart, fair, and very reasonable. I used to only watch my team, but since I found your channel I follow the entire league much much more.
ignore the negativity brother. Thanks for what you do
Never considered that a Canadian team might not win in my lifetime. 😮. There's a maturity in the way you approach your coverage.
Bettman won't let a Canadian team win do to business. Hopefully the next Commissioner will be better
How can you guys nearly reduce this guy to nearly tears? I never comment on anything. Ever. This is our guy. The Hockey Guy. Come on guys and girls. We all love this sport.
What are you talking about? This is The Entertainment Guy. The Hockey Guy is a completely different person!
Because you can't cheer for both Vancouver and Boston are fn daft no true canucks fan would ever cheer for the bruins
@@matt0395 Guess what bud. He does. He's cheered for Vancouver his entire life, and Boston ever since he was a teenager. He mentioned it in a video last year I think when Boston was dominating the league. Let the man be a fan of as many teams as he wants.
I would argue a fan of a team should critique their team just as much as cheer for them.
100%
Depends on what you mean by "critique". As a Leafs fan, it's insufferable in the comments after a loss, which EVERY team endures, EVERY YEAR. Someone always needs to be traded, fired, sent down, is complete "garbage", etc. I hate 90% of the online fanbase, I really do.
Hey Shannon! I know it’s easy to say don’t let these comments get to you, but it’s easier said then done. You make hockey accessible to everyone, and you make league wide breakdown and fun videos. I look forward to your videos at the end of every night and your takes on the league. Thank you for doing what your doing, don’t let idiots get you down. You do amazing things.
At 51 now you are one of the best that I have seen in all my years of watching hockey. Just keep it up there's no one close to you
Shannon your channel is one of my favorite to get unbiased commentary on Canucks games with a even handed mix of reporting the scores, notable plays and opinion as well. I also remember the 94 and 2011 runs and heartbreak and favor your cautious approach to optimism of our club. Have always been a subscriber to your main channel, and because of this video, just subscribed to The Entertainment Guy channel too. Go Canucks Go!
Some people think being a fan means you can't be cautious in your optimism. If anything being cautious shows you know your history with a team and you have seen certain songs and dances before. Just means you are an informed fan
Other people think you can't be a fan unless you talk your team down after a win: "This team will fall off before Christmas. None of you know what you are talking about. Garbage win. This means nothing."😂
@@bartsanders1553 I was referring to The Hockey Guy in reference to Canucks, since that is what this video is about. Of course fans can be super happy about their team and never speak negatively about them. The Hockey Guy isn't saying people can't do that. My post said "Some people", not all people. Nor did I say you can't be happy about your team. I was saying in this context, The Hockey Guy knows the history of the Canucks and is an informed fan, so he has a right to be cautious in his optimism. But other than that, good joke haha
@@abovewater6918 I was making an aside about "that guy" that always seems to be around. Shannon's a champ!
@@bartsanders1553 Sorry man, I re-read and gotcha. It looked like it mirrored my message but just opposite so it looked like mocking hahaha. Thanks for explaining
I’m 47 and have been a canucks fan since dad sat me in front of the tv at age 4.
I completely understand your stance on the canucks and I appreciate all the work you do on ALL nhl teams.
It’s great to be a canucks fan but the game of hockey deserves to be celebrated as well.
Keep doing what you’re doing! If it wasn’t for you, I wouldn’t know what was happening around the league.
Keep hope alive!
Go Canucks Go!
Once he stops cheering for Boston he can be considered a true canucks fan and only then
@@matt0395sorry but nah
I love the amount of professionalism you are trying to put in your videos. I've seen quite a bit of backlash to any negativity towards the Canucks lately. Sad state of things with people demanding blind praise to them.
I can't stand people who gatekeep fandom. "Oh, you're not a real fan because you don't think like I do". I don't think anyone does themselves any good by being unrealistic about whatever team (or teams) they cheer for.
Shannon does an excellent job being neutral for the channel and still being an avid Canucks fan. Gotta be hard, especially when he mentions the teams he is not a fan of because they beat the North Stars and The Canucks in the finals and knocked Boston out a few times(Islanders). Even then he resists the temptation to really lay into a team.😊
Oh man. Twitter / X is a total cesspool of ignorance. Shannon my friend - I just turned 50, I’m a lifelong Canucks fan and I agree with your analysis 100%. You’re the only guy I trust on them.
Twitter can be an absolute toxic dump, Shannon. I wouldn't worry about what some people on there say, all your subscribers and supporters know otherwise!
The amount of canuck fans who hate Shannon because he “Hates the Canucks” because he’s “Too Negative” is Absured. Shannon is the most fair fan i’ve come across. Will defend this gem to the end. Never Change, THG!
I am not one for handing out advice to content creators, but screw Twitter (X). Ignore it. It's a cesspool of hate.
He didn’t do his TPS reports, clearly.
He did the TPS reports, he just didn't put the new cover sheet on the TPS report. If you want I can get you a copy of the memo.
Can't be bothered: too busy jumping to conclusions.
I never understand the whole "you can't be a fan of this team if they annoy or frustrate you and you don't worry about how things are going" argument. To me the a big part of the appeal of sports fandom is that you get this shared experience of suffering and worry and frustration with an entire fan base, and then when your team breaks through (whatever breaking through looks like in their context) it's genuinely electrifying. Or at least that's how I justify being a Ranger fan since I got Blades of Steel as one of my first three NES games in 1991 and "New Jersey" wasn't there but "New York" was so I decided I was a Ranger fan...hey, I was 6, it made as much sense as anything else.
You do such a great job! I am amazed that you can watch every game. You analysis is top notch... keep up the good work.
As if people on Twitter have ANY relevance.
You do you, man. Screw the people on Twitter and their stupid gatekeeping.
Hey Shannon I understand how you feel, my dad is around your age and when he talks about the canucks he always says “they’ll find a way to fuck it up”. The years of heartbreak takes a toll. He gave up watching hockey after 2011, and only got back recently. Big Habs fan too. It’s too bad but that feeling runs deep with older fans. A lot of younger fans like me don’t really get it
Also I feel like it’s a lot easier to be critical towards your own team cause you tend to watch them more (maybe not in your case) easier to give the other team the benefit of the doubt. You love the Canucks so much so you hold them to the highest standards
Thanks for being awesome
Brother, I do the same shit with the Rangers, and the same shit gets said to me. But you know what, over half the time, I’m right, and a lot of that has to do with the fact that I watch multiple teams regularly, mainly two, ironically the Canucks being the other one, so I have a much more objective outlook than I otherwise would. That way i see each team in the league roughly twice as much as I normally would if I was only a rangers fan, and I get more of a sense of what’s going on. I also just have the tendency to focus on what the team I’m cheering for needs to work on, and not if they get a bad call against, or if there was an unfortunate bounce. Then I get called a bad fan for that. For example, say trouba throws a questionable hit, and say he does undoubtedly cross the line upon further look’s, I’m the first guy to call that out because i hate that kind of play. In my point of view, and this only really happened when I picked up the canucks as a second team, and I do the same thing for them as well, is that blindly cheering for everything your favorite team does, and thinking your favorite team can do no wrong, is an ignorant way of watching the sport and it’ll get you into more nonsensical arguments than it’s worth. Spend two minutes looking in the hockey chat discord and you’ll see my point.
Shannon, that is my single favorite jersey I've ever seen you wear. Despite that, you really need to submit your TPS report...And I'll also need you to work on Saturday...Ohh, and yeaah, I'll also need you to come in on Sunday.
The comments you’re getting are either 15 year old fans or bandwagon canucks fans. You’re doing a great job, and as a Canucks fan myself I’ve never thought your criticism of the Canucks has been unfair
Dude you are a beauty. I’m a hockey fan first, Canucks second and a very controversial as a nucks guy Chicago fan third. Van has won some games lately that they looked like absolute hot garbage in some periods. I have agreed with all your rankings and look forward to seeing them. Keep doing your thing buddy, your page is going to grow and you will do amazing.
This is crazy you are great I follow you because you are so impartial and you cover the entire league. Don’t listen to the haters
As your channel grows, you will invariably attract some of the louder, less intelligent among us. Ignore those guys; they're definitely not the majority.
Twitter is a shit hole.
It is definitely odd how some people think that having realistic expectations of whoever you support in whatever sport means you're not a true fan.
first thing I thought when the season started going good was these boys are going to hurt me so bad.
To say Twitter can be weird is an understatement. It really brings home the fact that while the Intertubes gives you access to the World, it also gives the World access to you, and there are a lot of nutters and trolls out there. Keep up the good work!
Ive been a Canucks fan my entire life (19 years). I know that isnt a very long time, but my dad, has been around since they came into the League. And from all the things Ive witnessed and all the shit Ive heard, I get why Shannon is cautious. I am too. I get why he didnt put us #1 in power rankings either. We havent been playing our best hockey the last few games, were slow coming out in the first which results in us being down a goal early. Yeah we get that goal back at some point, but if we want the Canucks to be #1 in power rankings, they have to play like it. They gotta play the full 60 minutes.
Edit: I get why youre waiting for everything to go bad again. Its classic Canucks hockey where we start to do good, and then it goes bad. Happened to us too many times. And who knows, they could be #1 in the power rankings that get posted later today, we wont know until the video is out. The Canucks were at 5 last week, I can see us moving up to a maximum of #2, I still dont think we're playing #1 hockey for power rankings, but I dont know what all Shannon puts into the way he makes his power rankings, we could be #1 but like I said, we wont know until later tonight.
Everytime Boeser scores i always say to my wife
Shannons dancing right now
Accurate. That's 23 dances so far this year.
Great coverage of all 32 teams! When I watch a broadcast of any sport I expect the commentators to be neutral to all teams. When they are homers, I change the channel.
The internet is a weird place. People can say whatever they want, whether it makes sense or not. I’ve been accused of the same thing.
I’ve only been watching since 1990 and I’ve got serious Canucks PTSD. When people insist I’m not a Canucks fan because I say I need to see more to convince me that they’re for real and not just a pretender despite their amazing start, I’m accused of being a hater. Welcome to social media in 2023.
People say things they’d never say to you in person sober, and delight in starting Facebook and Twitter (sorry, X 🤢 ) Wars. Apparently hockey is like politics. You have a team you cheer for and any criticism at all or hesitation in your full and undying support is a betrayal and you’re obviously a troll who hates their side and supports someone else. It’s why I don’t have a blog anymore. I have enough anxiety.
Well, keep doing what you’re doing, because there are more people who support you than those who want to tear you down.
“Stupid Entertainment Guy… this would have gotten 20x more views on THG.”
But I get why it’s here.
Love the channel(s).
I appreciate how you cover Hockey. Ignore the haters saying you aren’t being a Canucks fan the right way as they’re still watching the videos.
Unfortunately, there are too many haters and trolls on social media these days. They're desperate for attention and know they'll get it by acting out, and it works. I agree that if you don't like something, you stay away from it, not run towards it. There's a few haters/trolls that are on every video possible of the Leafs, who I follow the most, and 1 troll in specific that is usually very early to comment the same stupid things everytime. The big difference is this 1 has a put 7 burner accounts to comment on the comment they originally left but with a different account. This person will literally have a conversation with themself using different accounts. Some just love and need that attention no matter where it comes from. I do believe you're biased in some regards, I don't believe that you're not a Cunucks fan. A real fan can talk the good and bad of the team they cheer for without becoming insulting or claiming someone needs to be traded, fired, sent down or is just "garbage". Many have alot to learn.
I love these bad takes breakdown videos. People get dumber when typing things on the internet. 10/10 free content.
The thumbnail could've been Jim's look from the office. I highly appreciate your fair analysis of all the teams in the league, and I dig that your power rankings have so many good factors in play. Good on you, eff the haters!
Historically I've been a one team guy, and that's changed over time. Habs when I was really young because of Dryden, Oilers(Gretzky) and now the Canucks( since Brodeur and Linden) but the realization after watching this video that you've helped me appreciate other teams and the game as a whole is eye opening, I mean, I've been cheering for the leafs this year! Thanks Shannon, keep on trucking 👍
Since Brodeur and Linden? I assume you mean Bure, and not Brodeur. Since we never had Marty Brodeur, tho I woulda loved it if we did.
@@IanStrain23328 King Richard, bure was great but I'm referring to players I admired the most, Linden was the heart of that team.
1982 King Richard, going to take us to the top, King Richard, going to take us to the cup!!
@@suchaguf8974 Ahh, I didnt know we had a Brodeur on our team, I dont know much about the 82' team. Havent really looked into it since I dont wanna see the ending where we get swept in the Finals.
@@IanStrain23328 S'all goodman, '82 was the team that captured an entire province's hearts and cemented the nucks as B.C.'s team. 👍😁👍 I guess now that I think about it, the '94 team cemented it, '82 just got the party started. The '24 team is sure feeling like the championship team to be sure. The Vancouver Canucks are good.
I've said this under one of your power ranking videos recently and ill say it again here, I can not and will not understand how any canucks fan can be mad at you for not having the canucks at first. First off, they shouldn't be. Secondly, just the fact that they are even in the conversation for being even close to first should be seen as a blessing from the hockey gods. We have seen garbage year after year especially in recent years. This has been a miracle year so far and I will not be taking it for granted and even though I think they're legit I still don't believe it 100% and I will tread carefully. So any fans giving you shit for that baffles me to no end, be thankful
Funny as a Wings fan I know their not your favorite team and I understand why but never felt like you hate on them or treat them/ fan base any different from others. Think you do a great job keeping it balanced for everyone, these guys just don’t have anything better to do with their lives. And I hope for all the long suffering Canucks fans that this team is real and makes a deep run this year want a Canadian team to win so badly lol
well said from a fellow Wings fan and since our team are on a slide and might miss playoffs I'd be happy seeing a Canadian team win and if its the Canucks that's great if it made Shannon happy! 👍
All Canadian final?
That boogie episode was a wild multilayer crossover
Keep doing what you're doing! You make my day ❤😊
Don't let comments like this guy's bother you, Shannon. As someone who works in Social Media - I know it's super hard to do, but you need to just ignore them. Most people are known as "keyboard warriors" as they would never say this to your face. I have no idea how you do such a good job as so unbiased in your videos as you have for years now on this channel. Anyone who watches your videos should give you the utmost respect for that. It wouldn't be professional to cover every NHL team and be biased against the Canucks just because of your fandom. As I always say, just keep doing everything that you're doing as the GOAT of Hockey TH-cam!
Love your takes. The world today is full of haters, so please try to ignore them. I agree with with your rankings as you do them objectively. Most annalists had the Canucks not making the playoffs and that includes most members of Canuck Nation. So 33 games in there numbers are great but it is 33 of 82 games. I think at this stage the Canucks are for real but lets see how they do in 2024 to the playoffs. We have been terrible for a decade so many of us want to take this short term success in stride. Go Canucks! Shannon just keep doing what you're doing as your the best at it. Happy Holidays to all.
I think the problem is they didn't get a copy of the memo. Maybe one of your 8 bosses can send it to them.
Love the sweater, I was just referencing Office Space earlier today.
THG is a hockey fan first, and fans of teams second. He has a true passion for the sport and provides his opinion on every team. Thats what makes his channel so good. Don't listen to these clowns theyre not even worth addressing. They cant be reasoned with
I follow you because I love the Canucks but I also think you do your best to be unbiased and tell us what you think so thank you
It's crazy that it's gotten to a point where you have to explain yourself in a video for this, for nimwits who just want a forever echochamber. I guess it's time for The Canuck Guy channel #3!
PS. I love listening to you because you are the most unbiased person I know 👍
PPS. That other Canucks fan needs a bug-ectomy😱
PPPS. I've been a Ranger fan all my life (60+ years). But there were plenty of years where they were stinkers. There were plenty of years where they were good but self destructed in the playoffs. I never pulled punches with them. You've heard my disappointment with them when warranted.
PPPPS. I've been an unbiased fan myself. Listening to you has only made me even more unbiased. 👍
Some people really think being a fan means leaving your brain at the door lol
You are my favorite youtuber. You are fair and realistic and hilarious and I don't care that you hate the Devils (JK). You're amazing. Your videos are amazing.
Suffering is part of the fun of being a Canucks fan
Nope, sorry, this 15 minute explanation won't convince me! Vancouver hater confirmed LOL keep up the great work THG/TEG. Try to ignore these dinguses.
Long time watcher, first time commenter… Just wanted to say that I love your videos and I hope these trolls don’t get you down too much. It’s clear how much effort you put into providing an unbiased look at the league and I think you do a fantastic job.
Also, the fact that some of them say you’re not a fan because you’re MORE critical of your favorite team is silly IMO. Even if you are a little harder on the Canucks, it’s obviously because you’re just way more invested in their success. Anyways, keep it up and know there’s plenty of us out here that appreciate what you do!
I think you are doing a great job. Sure there are some fans who think their team is the best when things are going good, or the worst if things are going bad. But that isn`t what this show is. These fans just tune in to hear you praise their team. They probably don`t even listen to the rest of the video. You don`t make this show for them. This show is an opinion based report on the league based on stats and trends. You do an awesome job, keep your head up and stick on the ice my guy!
So being practical and not a homer makes you a hater. Who knew?
love the channel! how many times a team breaks your heart is irrelevant. you are in a position to have a perspective that only a proportionate few of the youtube community have. that should be enough. keep up the good work!
Haters gonna hate. I used to only watch Rangers games but thanks to Shannon I have become a much more well-rounded hockey fan. It upsets me to see you affected by the mouth-breathing trolls, keep up the good work my man!
Sounds like these twitter guys want you to be like the Toronto TH-cam channels that only cover the Leafs and only think Leaf players are good and claim they watch other teams but they don't know anything going on outside of Leafs Nation. It's understandable to want your team to be #1 but if they don't like your rakings they can do their own. Or just don't watch. This is the only channel where I actually believe the TH-camr watches the games. So many hockey channels have guys that go off on what's wrong with a team or what they need but if you listen to them you can tell they haven't watched games and are only looking at stats.
Ignore those horses with blinders. They can't see what you see.
You know how dare you be one of the most unbiased people who talk about a sport.
You're the most Even Keeled Reporter on anything that I follow on youtube.
There are teams in the NHL that I dispise for the conduct of some of their former players
And I couldn't report on those teams fairly and honestly. My bias against them would creep in
and my bias for the canucks woulds creep in for the canucks.
I don't know how the heck you do it and be so awesome.
In my opinion you do a fantastic job on both of your channels!!
As a fellow Canuck fan, I see your pain for over 40 years and have mad respect.
These folks commenting negatively are the epitome of wrestling with a pig. You’re gonna get dirty, and chances are, the pig is gonna like it.
I know it's easy to say don't mind those comments but they really get you although most comments are positive. You can be Canucks fan and still be a hockey fan. Also you give us the best hockey content out there so thanks for that Shannon! Some people just don't get it.
You should just say something disparaging about Leaf fans, that will give you instant cred with Vancouver fans.
Thg has to deal with this yet I live in Toronto and it's perfectly fine for their media to actually be biased. Shannon reality is ppl will complain either way, just be you.
The Caps fan base is very similar. I have been a Caps fan since 1974. So my heart has been broken many times as well. But, if I dare to point out that they are the second oldest team in the league (thankfully they have been calling up younger players recently) or mention that the power play is awful on the fan forums, I get called a fake Caps fan.
People tend to forget power rankings don't equal the standings, cause if they did there would be no point to the power rankings.
Shannon, keep up the good work, really enjoy your content and appreciate the hard work you put in.
The problem in the first place are people who have black and white definitions about anything. Being a fan doesn't mean that you can't be practical or realistic about it. You can still support the team and want them to do well but have expectations that they won't win the cup in any given year. It should be common sense but those people just won't get it. You're a fan of the sport, THG and any reasonable person can see that. Keep up the great work!
If you can’t criticize something you like, do you really like it?
I hate my team right now, but I watch your channel because I feel like you keep it balanced. I refuse to watch a lot of the mainstream media because they are either overhyped for your team or their perspective is so shallow it just makes their comments vacuous.
This is a hockey channel that Shannon has built from the gound up for years He covers all 32 teams believe it or not it's allowed. If you want a good Canucks fandom channel. Head on over to Kempner Canucks. Keep up the good work Shannon!
Welcome to the internet and the lovely people who lurk on social media..
I don’t have any issues with your coverage. The only thing I question is why as Canucks fans do many of us feel the need to cheer cautiously? We’re allowed to cheer and be happy if they are doing well. We can do it immediately too. There’s no need to wait and see. I don’t get this mentality. We understand there’s been disappointment in the past but that should not stop us from being happy for a short period of success. They should not have to prove their worth to us. Are we so afraid of a potential disappointment that we can’t cheer for them ? Isn’t that part of the roller coaster of sports fandom ? The hockey guy coverage is acceptable but I question all of us Canucks fans who feel the need to wait and see before being happy about new success. Yes it may go bad. But that can happen at any time. Even after your artificial wait and see time period has passed. I say let’s just enjoy the ride. Don’t be afraid to cheer or to be happy or get your hopes up based on team success. That’s when it’s fun. When the hopes are up. Cheers fellow Canucks fans.
Canucks have broken my heart before, so before I go all in on Canucks again, I need reality check from someone who looks at every team objectively. keep up the good work. Having said that, I also appreciate you making this video to give your perspective. At the end, adds more credibility
Neutrality can appear as negativity to those who don’t get outside of their bubble.
Many years ago, I met a Canadian guy who could not stand the Canucks, which sort of surprised me. I would understand disliking successful teams like Montreal or overexposed teams, like Toronto. But I didnt understand hating the Canucks as they have never won anything.
I'd always felt kinship with Canucks fans, as like my team, they had never won. After my team won, I was hoping long-suffering Vancouver fans could experience that joy.
But a few years back, I encountered some Canuck fans during a playoff series and I really could not believe the level of arrogance. It put me off the Canucks completely.
The entertainment guy talking about the hockey guy can’t wait till he hears about this one
The only proper response is to point and laugh.
Very simple Shannon, you're a professional. We all have biases, but as a professional, you give credit where it's due and criticism when it's warranted. If you show preference or favoritism to the Canucks, you'll lose all credibility to hockey fans. The truth hurts but it'll also set you free.
Canucks at #1 on power rankings is WILD.... as a lifer canucks fan there is no way
We all know that, at best, this is going to end in tears and downtown Vancouver in flames.
It is so weird to me how many people there are, that do not understand or identify satire, sarcasm and tongue in cheek humor. Those comments on that Twitter account are so cringey. Wouldn’t be surprised if one of them were the person that left that childish rant/comment that you made the video about.
If you don't have unbridled non-stop optimism towards your team, and downgrade every effort of the opposition as pure luck and not skill, you're not a fan.
An other kind of fan is the typical "everything's bad and I will never see them win anything". Both are so tiring.
The loudest people online are those who see things as either pitchblack or angelic white. Personally, the ones I respect the most are the ones who actually have a gray-scale of emotions and analyzes, with your own team, the opposition and the league as a whole. You're one of those. Never change.
I think you have been fair to all teams. You can be proud of the teams you cheer for but still acknowledge that there are other better teams out there. That is why some people cheer for the underdogs.
Vancouver was the town that booed team Canada in 72.... then a couple of riots... we have issues.
People who are all in on a team, right or wrong, are exhausting. The wild swings from love to hate in 15 minutes during a game makes me just not watch any stuff. You're the only hockey content I watch unless there's a GM press conference for the Flyers. I don't care what idiot reporters ask tired hockey players in the locker room. And I absolutely don't care about random people screaming about everything.
Ngl im starting to suspect the hockey guy and the entertainment guy might he the same person
The last thing we need are more conspiracy theories right now man!
Being a canucks fan has been bad for my health 😝😂
I saw this thread when it went down. Think its pretty clear these people either don't actually listen to what he says or watch at all because we have had this sort of discussion a billion times