Starship Chopstick Slap Tests and Falcon Heavy Flies Again - The Flame Trench

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  • Join us for our seventh episode of "The Flame Trench". Starship is taking steps to get to the first Booster catch, with SpaceX performing tests on the Orbital Launch Mount, with the prototype B14.1.
    The Flame Trench is the new name of our weekly, 5PM eastern Friday show, where we discuss all the recent space news, and developments of the space industry.
    If you are interested in using footage captured by this stream, please review our content use policy: www.nasaspacef...
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  • @MrKellymcilrath
    @MrKellymcilrath 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Great Flame Trench! thank you EJ for hoasting, and thank you Sawyer, & Ryan also! GO NSF!!!

  • @ericplouvin7286
    @ericplouvin7286 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    As a (very) amateur bassplayer, that intro had me in stitches !

    • @-danR
      @-danR 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      _These Spacemen Must Be Stopped!!_

    • @vonpredator
      @vonpredator 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      David504 has entered the chat:

  • @garreth629
    @garreth629 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Landing tower works, but I vote to call it a dock. Spaceships dock. Boats and ships dock.
    It's easier to say than landing tower every time. Dock makes more sense than landing pad or runway. Docking with the tower is what's happening.

    • @Grandwigg
      @Grandwigg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I like it, but i think @CocoaBeachLiving had it right in another comment: Landing Interface

  • @HarryOttele
    @HarryOttele 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If Falcon Heavy was launched from Texas Stare Base the Falcon Heavy center core could land in Florida. When Super Heavy booster is enlarged for longer burn it can land in Florida.

  • @Grandwigg
    @Grandwigg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I totally get X-ray irradiated Sawyer=spicy Sawyer. Test days can lead to irritability especially if you have to do multiple transfers to and from your chair and other contortions.
    While it's amazing that one provider in particular is doing great work and specific payload capacities and target orbits and such, but it is better for everyone if we get more and more companies to that stability point and reliability point and capability point.
    Besides, more rockets, more better.

  • @nillennir
    @nillennir 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    you have to add the flap of IFT4 to the intro

    • @Grandwigg
      @Grandwigg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      EMPHATIC YES! There has to be at least a couple frames worth of good footage available.
      (As I wrote that I realized that they probably won't, as I think the intro is only clips of stuff from their cameras, and the only hero flap footage is from SpaceX. )

    • @vsikifi
      @vsikifi 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Grandwigg There is a clip showing the solar panel deployment of James Webb Space Telescope. That's definitely not a NFS camera as that camera is mounted on the second stage of Ariane 5.

    • @Grandwigg
      @Grandwigg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@vsikifi ooh, then there's hope for the SuperFlap!

  • @Marc83Aus
    @Marc83Aus 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So the issue with the falcon heavy core recovery is that since the falcon heavy was first developed the performance of the regular falcon 9 has increased so much that there isnt much payload difference between a fully expended falcon 9 and a fully reused falcon heavy, there just likely isnt many customers that actually need a payload that will fit on a fully reused F heavy that doesnt also fit onto a falcon 9.

  • @GnomeOrMrNiceGuy
    @GnomeOrMrNiceGuy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Congratulations Slappers… 😂😂 🎸

  • @vonpredator
    @vonpredator 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The truth about Boeing is they tried to cut corners buy basing themselves on legacy data and technology. You must remember that many manufacturing methods and materials are no lover available. Therefore ‘equivalent’ materials and manufacturing methods were used. These equivalents, almost always have a limitation or disadvantage. These disadvantages are amplified in a harsh environment, like space.
    It is up to Boeing to properly mitigate that risk. And they have chosen to ‘do-it-live’.
    Bold choice, but that similar philosophy has gotten the into big trouble with the 737 and 787.

  • @vonpredator
    @vonpredator 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @Davie504 Can SpaceX slap the base/booster better than you! 🎸

  • @jamescobban857
    @jamescobban857 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One of the issues with recovering the centre core is that the performance of a Block 5 F9 is so high that there are few applications for Falcon Heavy, and therefore only the most extreme contracts demand a Falcon Heavy.
    The side boosters are doing less than mach 5 when they start their return. The core booster is over mach 6. And remember that kinetic energy, which must be dissipated during reentry, depends upon the square of the velocity.

  • @elizabethhoeppner8881
    @elizabethhoeppner8881 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You are always a welcome part of my day. Laughing and interesting discussions. 😅😊😊

  • @CocoaBeachLiving
    @CocoaBeachLiving 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Call the catch arm landing a 'landing interface' 😅😅

    • @Grandwigg
      @Grandwigg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I rather like that.
      It fits, makes use of terminology already in use with space activity, and isn't overly wordy (as I often am hahaha).

  • @One_Bar
    @One_Bar 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    🎸

  • @-danR
    @-danR 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Within the first few seconds of the intro I somehow sensed what was coming. Maybe I've watched too much Davie504.

  • @Mike-tv9rk
    @Mike-tv9rk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you guys aware of Wallace and grommet. EJ and grommet have the same eyebrows . I swear!! 😂

  • @Mike-tv9rk
    @Mike-tv9rk 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How does EJ get such good signal when he's out in Dexter's boat somewhere!??

  • @stuartarmet3526
    @stuartarmet3526 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If for some reason they cannot catch it, they can fly it away and land/crash it in the open area. If they have enough fuel.

  • @revy1063
    @revy1063 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    @24:16 I do that sometimes in the morning especially after a good night of curry. xD

  • @DeanIllinger
    @DeanIllinger 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not my cup of tea. Looking for Allisya's weekly Friday recap of SpaceFlight. Found this instead. I'll keep looking ...

    • @Grandwigg
      @Grandwigg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, flame trench is a bit more free form than the scripted stuff.
      Lots of good info, but its also a bit of banter and friendly disagreement and very informal debate. I do believe that's why they chose Flame Trench as the name.
      It's definitely more podcast/club meeting and personality driven in format.

  • @tomsheridan989
    @tomsheridan989 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks again

  • @Starship21-p5r
    @Starship21-p5r หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love it!

  • @jupiter604
    @jupiter604 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Slap like now

    • @-danR
      @-danR 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pineapple on pizza... _puii!_

  • @m1shuC
    @m1shuC 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hopefully EJ keeps hosting these, he's great!

  • @jaj4217
    @jaj4217 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Where is the IFT 5 patch???

    • @ResonantLive_
      @ResonantLive_ 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm sure it'll be out around the actual flight. Still some time off before then, so I imagine once we're a bit closer to the launch date we'll see it

    • @Grandwigg
      @Grandwigg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've been really impressed with the ones I have. I'm not surprised they've been selling out quick.

  • @BonzoOnFMB
    @BonzoOnFMB 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It was better than last weeks.

  • @motokid6008
    @motokid6008 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    EJ's energy is contagious...

    • @motokid6008
      @motokid6008 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Gomtu - I'm sure some have that opinion yes.

    • @Grandwigg
      @Grandwigg 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For me, he seems more like people I know, and feels like 'just a guy' who's just gone full force into a chosen subject.
      (As opposed to the 'space nerd' I am, and others some of the associated seem to be.)
      I think it's a good thing it's not all the same personality types. Sometimes clash, but slightly more rounded perspective .
      I feel he also does well taking the devil's advocate position on occasion.
      The rotating host and participants they seem to be doing works for me.

  • @ScottHinkle-pg3un
    @ScottHinkle-pg3un 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just wish you had something I could read. Don't like waiting though all your advertisements. Just saying.

    • @NASASpaceflight
      @NASASpaceflight  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Boy, do we have a deal for you. www.nasaspaceflight.com - Das

  • @bobholland9924
    @bobholland9924 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you hear that . Somebody is walking through Boeings corporate headquarters playing taps. If it's Boeing I ain't going!!!

    • @jamescobban857
      @jamescobban857 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There used to be a sign on the street leaving Boeing that read "Would the last person leaving please turn off the lights."

  • @bobholland9924
    @bobholland9924 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Turn that crap music off.