The difference between Biblical Christianity and Catholic Religion
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- This is the BEST description and animated explanation of the difference between biblical Christianity and the Roman Catholic Religion. This is courtesy of The American Gospel documentary available for purchase or rent on Vimeo. Please check out the documentary for yourself. It's very well done and explains the "True" Gospel/Good News of Jesus Christ.
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Since childhood I have been amazed with Biblical Christians obsession with the Church of Rome, which is one of twenty-three Metropolitain's sharing a common Tradition going back to the formation of the early church. I have never been in at Roman Catholic mass where the priest in their sermon condemned or even spoke of biblical Christian's. Why do Biblical Christians feel so insecure in their teaching that they need to constantly justify their beliefs?
Oh that's interesting to hear. Maybe it's different here in the UK but in my 60 years I haven't heard sermons condemning Roman Catholicism. In the churches that I've been a member of the sermons have always been systematic biblical exposition, usually with application. Similarly, when I'm teaching enquirers, I'm at pains to avoid any sectarian statements. If people ask me what church they should attend I generally encourage them to find a local church where the congregation and the clergy love the Lord and where the Bible is faithfully taught. I'm happy to let the Holy Spirit guide them to the right fellowship of believers.
My experience in the UK would match yours. In my 40 years of going to Catholic Mass all over the country, I've never heard a priest from the pulpit disparage or criticise the teachings of Protestant churches.
You forget the outside their church no salvation. Vatican 2 has destroyed the past and your church wants to deceive the world that they are more tolerant now. Wolves in sheep's clothing is apt description.
My moms pastor says Catholics and Orthodox Christians arnt saved. We got into a pretty heated debate about it lol.
@@dogman9657 😄It's actually really healthy to debate these things (politely of course) because it forces us to go back to biblical basics and find out what being saved means. I meet people from all sorts of denominations who are saved, and similarly (sadly) I meet others from those same denominations who aren't.
If I weren't Catholic, I'd look for the Church that the world despises, for the world despised Jesus, and he would be there. - Fulton Sheen
Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in you; he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood abides in me, and I in him. As the living Father sent me, and I live because of the Father, so he who eats me will live because of me.". Things seemed to be going pretty well. That is until Jesus said “For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed. He that eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood,dwelleth in me, and I in him.” This was too much for many of his disciples and “From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.” Jesus turns to the 12 and asks, “Will ye also go away? Vs 61, Jesus did not back down, for He said, "Does this offend you?" it offends protestants. They devoted themselves to the apostles’ teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer.
Jn 20:21, "As the Father has sent Me, I also send you."
Jn 17:18, "Even as thou hast sent Me into the world, so I have sent them into the world."
Jn 17:22-23, "And the glory that thou hast given Me, I have given to
Matt. 28, 18-20: And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye, therefore. and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Jesus says to the crowd, "He who believes and is baptized will be saved." But in reference to the same people, Jesus immediately follows with "He who does not believe will be condemned." This demonstrates that one can be baptized and still not be a believer. This disproves the Protestant argument that one must be a believer to be baptized. There is nothing in the Bible about a "believer's baptism."
"Accept Jesus as your personal Lord and Savior," or "Ask Jesus into your heart" isn't the biblical answer.
It’s important to be saved from hell, damnation, and the stain of original sin, but what are we saved for? We are saved for union with Christ. Our salvation began when we were born again through baptism and God’s own Divine Life was restored in our souls, making us like Adam and Eve were in the Garden before the Original (first) Sin. As we go through life, we are united with Christ through the Sacraments he left as gifts for us, especially through Penance (forgiveness of our sins committed since Baptism) and the Eucharist (partaking of God’s own Life, His own Divine Nature, 2 Peter 1:4) - until that day when we are truly united with Him in heaven.
Scripture teaches that one’s final salvation depends on the state of the soul at death. As Jesus himself tells us, "He who endures to the end will be saved" (Matt. 24:13; cf. 25:31-46). One who dies in the state of friendship with God (the state of grace) will go to heaven. The one who dies in a state of rebellion against God (the state of mortal sin) will go to hell. (For the teaching on venial (non-deadly) and mortal (deadly) sins, see 1 John 5:16-17)
What I must do to be saved:
*I must be baptized with water and the Spirit. Mark 16:16, John 3:3-5, Titus 3:5, I Peter 3:20-21. (Exceptions: [1] If I desire Baptism but die before I can be baptized with water and the Spirit, God accepts my desire to be baptized, and [2] If I am killed (martyred) because of my faith, but I have not had the opportunity to be baptized, God accepts my death as my baptism, called the Baptism of Blood).
* I must do the will of God the Father. Matthew 7:21
* I must keep the Commandments of God. Matthew 5:19-20, Matthew 7:21, Matthew 19:17, 1 Timothy 6:14, and others.
* I must accept the Cross (suffering). Matthew 10:38, Matthew 16:24-25, Mark 8:34, Luke 9:23, Luke 14:27. Phil 1:29, and others.
* I must be a member of God's true church. Acts 2:46-47.
* I must confess my sins. James 5:16, I John 1:9, John 20:19-23
* I must heed the words of St. Peter, the first Pope. Acts 11:13-14, Acts 15:7.
* I must eat the flesh and drink the blood of Jesus Christ. John 6:51-58, I Corinthians 10:16-17, 11:23-30.
* I must do unto others as I would have them do unto me and love my neighbor as myself. I must feed the hungry, give drink to the thirsty, clothe the naked, visit the sick and those in prison or give other aid to those in need. Luke 10:33 ff, Mt 25:31-46. "Do not neglect to do good and to share what you have, for such sacrifices are very pleasing to God" Hebrews 13:16. Good works don’t save us, but we will be judged by them.
*I must strive to be holy. "Strive for peace with everyone and for that holiness without which no one will see the Lord." Hebrews 12:14
*I must endure (persevere) to the end. Matthew 10:22, Matthew 24:13, Mark 13:13.
And ... ? What else must I do?
Catechism
#432 The name "Jesus" signifies that the very name of God is present in the person of his Son, made man for the universal and definitive redemption from sins. It is the divine name that alone brings salvation, and henceforth all can invoke his name, for Jesus united himself to all men through his Incarnation, so that "there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."🤦♂🤦♂
*Nazis&Hitler were despised too. That does not prove its truth. Stop using Dlogic.*
you said
f I weren't Catholic, I'd look for the Church that the world despises, for the world despised Jesus, and he would be there. - Fulton Sheen
As a Catholic who just heard what these protestants just said about our Church, I don't think they have it right. I was taught faith, etc & I feel very close to Jesus Christ & the Trinity. I'm not sure where these two got their information.
@@catmom1322 *Once again R Catholics demonstrate they do not read the Bible.*
*R Catholicism has nothing to do with God and His Words. R Catholic Church contradicts Scriptures in every possible ways!*
1. Catholics say Mary was sinless. But BIBLE says Mary offered a sinner's offering. She was a sinner. Bible says Mary needed a Saviour. Lk 2:23-24, Lev 12:6-8, Rom 3:10.
2. Catholics say clergies must be celibate. Yet BIBLE says Peter (supposed R Church first leader) had mother in law. Bible says celibacy is not a qualification for clergies. Mat 8:14-15, Mar 1:30-31, Luk 4:38-39.
3. Catholics say Mary was forever virgin. Yet BIBLE says Jesus had brothers and sisters. Mary was not perpetually virgin. Mk 6:3, Mat 13:55, Mat 27:56, Mar 6:3, Mar 15:40, Mar 15:47.
4. Catholics say confess to R priests in a box. BIBLE says nothing about confessing to priests in a box. Bible says confess to GOD only. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6, Romans 10:9-10.
5. Catholics say drink of the physical blood of Jesus. Yet OT and NT both say do not drink blood. Acts 15, Lev 7:26.
6. Catholics say pray to passed on Mary and "saints". Yet BIBLE says do not contact the dead. NT Church did not record a single case of NT believers asking passed on saints to pray for them. Deut 18:11, Isaiah 8:19.
7. Catholics make and bow down to statues. BIBLE says do not bow down to graven images (statues). Deut 4, Exo 20:4-5.
8. Catholics sprinkles “holy water”. But NT Church of the Bible mentioned nothing about “holy water”. There was no record of any Apostles sprinkling “holy water” on believers. Catholics claimed “holy water” came from OT. Yet Num 5:17 says “holy water” was water used to test adulterous women in OT temple. Hardly the same. Those were for Old Covenant Jews. Not New Testament Christians.
9. Catholics say Peter was pope - bishop of all bishops. Yet BIBLE says Peter was just a leader of the Jerusalem Church. Bible says nothing of the office of bishop of bishops. Gal 2:9, Mat 16:18.
10. Catholics say there is a seat of Peter. Yet BIBLE says nothing about it. Jesus said “not to lord over others”.
11. Catholics has clergy priesthood. Bible says clergy priesthood was done away with in New Testament. There is no clergy priesthood in NT. Heb 7:27, 9:12, 10:10.
12. Catholics preaches Works Salvation (faith + good works + partake R sacraments + submit to R pontiff + be in R Church + devote to Mary = to be saved). Yet Bible says “believe in Jesus to be saved”. Bible says Works Salvation is cursed. Gal 1:8-9. Acts 16:30-31, John 3:16, Romans 10:9-10.
13. Catholics says they must do Penance to atone for their sins. Yet Bible says repent, confess and sins will be forgiven. Catholic Bible changes the word “repentance” in NT into “penance”. Original Greek NT does not use or mean the word penance. Penance = work to atone for sins. Repentance = change of heart. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6.
14. Catholics say Mary went straight to heaven without dying. Yet Bible says nothing about it.
15. Catholics say Islam and Christianity have the same GOD. Yet Islam doesn't believe in death and resurrection of Jesus and Trinity.
If Roman Catholicism was founded by Simon Peter, why the name ROMAN Catholicism when Jesus and most of His apostles were crucified by the Romans? If Christianity was born in Israel, why is it based in Rome? Is it because Christianity was hijacked by emperor Constantine and mixed it with his pagan religion that is full of traditions, rituals and graven images? Why was the virgin Mary remained a virgin in your belief when he had sons and daughters that came after Jesus and why was she elevated to queen of heaven when nothing was said about her being queen of heaven in the bible? Why do you pray to her and the saints when the bible explicitly said that only Jesus is the way, the truth and the life?? My dear catholic brothers and sisters, you have to ponder about this questions and truly read the bible and understand what it preaches. I pray for your enlightenment and salvation. ✝️
@@ndor1429 *Yes indeed. R Catholics love pretending Peter founded R Catholicism then Jesus and Apostles were all murdered by the Romans. Lol*
Faith without work is dead.
And thus false faith. I was Protestant for 17 years. Thank God I was shown its errors
I agree. True faith produces good works.
Good works are the natural results of faith, but the good works don't earn you salvation. Good works are proof of your faith.
Faith without Joan of Arc is also dead. We must place our faith in her.
@@erichansen3641 Yeah...
@@vince2969 work for your own salvation with fear and trembling
as usual , the 'experts ' express their views and knowledge about what Catholic faith believes and their errors .
But honestly , this is further proof that these 'experts 'don't really know what Catholic faith and Catechism actually says & teach...
a beautiful quto , ' To truly learn the actual 'truth & go back deep in history , Is to cease to be a Prostants. ❤
This entire vid is (I suspect) well meaning. However, it's filled with half-truths. This is more dangerous and insidious than outright lies. The speakers grossly misinterpret the teaching of Catholicism and cherry-picked quotes out of context. No Catholic believes their works will get them into heaven any more than any other Christians (and Catholics ARE Christians, btw). The Catholic teaching is that when God offers us Grace, we must actively accept that Grace. This is in keeping with the belief of other denominations, believe it or not - because they also condemn "wrong" beliefs and "bad" behavior. The fact that these people are condemning Catholics for false reasons (idol worship, etc) is itself a refutation of their claim of Sola Fides. Because they're saying Catholics aren't *behaving* the way a good Christian should.
Let's not be hypocrites here, brothers and sisters!
See the problem comes from what most Catholics believe versus what the Catholic church actually teaches. A careful study of Catholicism shows that they are not lying! Most Catholics don't understand or believe what they actually teach, but nonetheless the Catholic church does teach many many false things!
Your creeds and confessions state otherwise. "if anyone believe that one is justified by faith alone let them me anathema (damned) -Council of Trent
Furthermore, if one is fully save (i.e going to heaven) by faith alone in the completed work of Christ, there is no need for purgatory. By nature of the existence of purgatory in Catholic belief, there must be room for human works that decipher whether one has "cooperated with grace" This is not a Christian belief. We are saved fully because of Christ's work, separate from ourselves.
@@jakewhennessy you’re so eager to destroy Catholicism that you’re not checking your information.
“Anathema” means “put out”. It doesn’t mean “damned.” Someone being declared anathema meant they could no longer call themselves Catholic. For example, if an otherwise Catholic were to say that Jesus isn’t Divine, but merely “just some guy that said nice things,” then the Church says that person isn’t a Catholic because he doesn’t believe what Catholics believe and is therefore separate from the Church. (Anathema)
You also seem to be confused about the nature of Purgatory. It’s not meant to be a place where you fix your actions. It’s a place where you’re made able to most fully enjoy heaven. For example, in your own assertion, if a man has confessed his faith in the Lord and is therefore saved, how can he fully enjoy heaven if he has some sort of mental disorder? Or other issues, such as feelings of anger or sadness due to life’s traumas? Purgatory is where you’re cleansed, like therapy for the soul.
The assertion that Catholics believe they deserve salvation due to jumping through hoops or magic type formulaic behaviors is a lie. Sadly, even some uneducated Catholics erroneously believe it as well. But true Catholicism just isn’t what this video makes it out to be.
you re beside the point....christians aren t suppose to believe in false doctrines ,has nothing to do with our works for salvation but our beliefs......and false beliefs bring to darkness.........
and there are no hafs truths when it comes to the false teachings of the catholic entity wich is at the top of the ecclesistic order profoundly luciferian.....
@@jasonrodgers880 I am actually glad you mentioned that. To "put out" of the church is to be damned. This is what was meant in the context of Trent. It was only until Vatican II when the Catholic Church claimed there could be salvation outside of it. This is how the Catholic Church defined the "keys of the kingdom" given to Peter. It could, in effect, have the power to save or to condemn.
Lastly, your view of purgatory seems very wacky if that is the case. You are saying a person cannot enter the complete joy of heaven if they have a mental disorder or if they went through trauma? A person toils and struggles all their life here on earth, only to be put in purgatory and not heaven because of it. That is not good news for the poor and broken hearted.
Not to mention, you own catechism speaks otherwise concerning purgatory:
“after death they undergo purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of Heaven."
This here is the great distinction between the protestant and Catholic faith. Your catechism says holiness is achieved by man in purgatory. Protestants say righteousness was achieved by Christ.
Paul says, "God made him who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God." Our sin was imputed to Christ, Christ's righteousness was imputed to us, all by faith alone. There is no purgatory, we are transformed in a moment.
The thief on the cross certainly experienced this. He surely had sin and baggage, but met with God in Heaven in an instant because the man on the middle cross said he could come.
The Catholic Church literally put the Bible together though...
Catholic church or not, God was going to make sure that His Word got through to the human race.
@@solaceboy Agreed.
You are repeating Catholic nonsense as Muslims do.They claim Islam was there even before Muhammed! So is Catholics.
You are repeating Catholic nonsense as Muslims do.They claim Islam was there even before Muhammed! So is Catholics.
@@solaceboy what. 1500 YEARS after Jesus died and the Protestants rolled around? Cmon.
"The Church is full of hypocrites...and we've always got room for a few more."
You mean the protestantesi church
@@carlovignati421 I mean all of us Brother
Then you are in a false church!
well, we know we're not God mate, but rather, his flawed creatures. I'll stick with this. You keep on with the Pharisaic Sadducaical method and see how that goes for ya@@verdadabsoluta9756
Revelation 22,12 „And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as HIS WORK shall be.”. Luke 6, 46 „Why do you call me, 'Lord, Lord,' and do not DO what I say?”. In Mathew 25 31-40, the goats will be separated from the sheep, according to THE WORKS they have done. And, off course, James 2: „14 What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? 15 Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. 16 If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? 17 In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead...26 As the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without deeds is dead.”. And so on and on...
And of course no reply from the prots
You know not your Bible . The book of Matthew is for the Jews during the tribulation . Matthew 15:24. I have not come. Except to the lost sheep of the House of Israel. James is to the 12 Tribes of Israel ( read the first couple lines of the book of Jame) it’s again to the the Jews during the tribulation . You know not how to rightly divide the word of God . 2 Timothy 2 verse 15
@@douggauzy6258 are you saying that the lords teaching in matthews gospel is not applicableto christians today?
@@wjm5972 please notify me when he/she reply
Dr Lawson,protestants always quote Mathew 23:9 '' do not call anyone father ' but Mathew 23: 8 says do not call anyone 'rabbi'( teacher). Doctor is Latin for teacher. I know 8 year olds that have a better grasp of Catholic teaching than these guys. It's actually embarrassing.
Rabbi doesn’t mean teacher. It means scholar of Halacha Law. Why don’t you read some more?
@@twicegod9160 According to the Encyclopedia Britannica it's, Hebrew:' my teacher ' or 'my master'. Maybe they should rewrite it. Collins dictionary declares ,' a man qualified in accordance with traditional Jewish religious law to expound,rule and teach.'
@@twicegod9160You need to do the reading, not him.
The exact title wasn’t the point. Jesus was using those verses to prohibit against titles that would give reverence and a sense of superiority to other men instead of reserving reverence and superiority to God and Christ.
What we have here is misrepresentation of Catholicism and a poor understanding of the bible.......
1// The Catholic Church does not teach that we earn our salvation by our own efforts, although it does teach that we have to work on our salvation. The same apostle who wrote Galatians also wrote Philippians, wherein Paul says, “Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling” (Phil. 2:12).
2// The official teachings of the Catholic Church teaches that we can do nothing to merit the grace that comes to us in baptism, which is the normal beginning of the Christian life. In fact, the Council of Trent condemned anyone who taught that we can save ourselves or who taught even that God helps us do what we could do for ourselves. The Church teaches that we can be saved only by God’s grace.
3// Following Paul, the Catholic Church teaches that justification comes by faith. Only it says that it doesn’t come through faith alone. If you look carefully at Paul’s writings, you will notice that he never says that our righteousness comes from faith alone-only that it comes from faith apart from works.
4// Romans 3:28 is a key verse in the differences between Protestants and Catholics. You will notice that Paul says a man is justified by faith (pistei in Greek). When Martin Luther translated the letter to the Romans into German in the sixteenth century, he added the word alone -but alone is not in the original Greek text. The phrase “faith alone” does occur in the New Testament: one time, in James 2:24. There the inspired apostle denies that justification is from faith alone. Let me quote it: “You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.”
5// Paul categorically excludes works from our salvation. But what kind of works is Paul talking about? If we believe the entire Bible, we need to see how Paul’s words fit together with James’s words, because James clearly says that “a man is justified by works.” If Paul and James mean the same thing by works, then they contradict one another. Since you and I both believe that the Bible cannot contradict itself, we must agree that Paul and James mean two different things by the word works.
6// The Catholic Church believes that we should interpret Scripture by using Scripture. You will note that sometimes Paul expands his phrase from works by adding the phrase of the law, as in Romans 3:20 and 28 and Galatians 2:16. Further, sometimes Paul substitutes the phrase through the law to describe the same reality. For example, in Romans 3:20, he says, “Through the law comes knowledge of sin.” In other words, when Paul uses the word works he is talking about the Old Testament law.
7// A careful reading of Galatians will show that Paul is using works of the law to refer especially to the law of circumcision. He is so strong about this that he says in Galatians 5:2, “Now I, Paul, say to you that if you receive circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to you.” Paul’s opponents in Galatia wanted to bring the Gentile Christians back into the Old Testament law. These are the works of the law that Paul is fighting against, and they have no place in our justification. Paul is saying in essence that Gentile Christians do not have to be circumcised and live like Jewish Christians in order to be saved.
Wonderfully said!
Do you have a link for the whole documentary on this? thanks.
Don't know either but i sugest reading Scripture if you are a catholic. Especially romans and hebrews
As Jesus says, "the bible is the Way the Truth and the Life" - pretty sure I got that right.
They are obviously too afraid to understand what the Catholic Church really believes.
Just goes to show, knowledge is the first casualty of hate.
No you got it wrong.
John 14:6 “I AM the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the father except through me”.
Jesus is the way and the only way to the father, not mary or bible. The scriptures contain the word of God but Jesus is ultimately THE WAY.
@@J_osh015 Why did you mention Mary?
@@PeterJohn-hl3ox well catholics claim to just venerate Mary meanwhile they have set prayers dedicated toward her.
@@J_osh015 But why is that a contradiction?
How do we venerate Mary in the absence of prayers?
@@PeterJohn-hl3ox to venerate is to hold someone with great respect. Prayer is spiritual and sacred to your God alone. Praying to mary is evil because you ought to pray to God. I hold Mary with great respect, but not to the point of giving what is God’s(prayer) to her.
Mary like you and me sinned and needed a savior
Luke 1:46-47”my soul glorifies the Lord and my spirit rejoices in God my savior”.
Mary definitely wasn’t holy like God to deserve my prayers. Mary didn’t save you and is dead ☠️. Jesus saved you and is alive. Jesus is the way, truth and life. He came to be like us as the perfect mediator between God and man. Mary is only human so she definitely can’t mediate and is therefore not worthy of prayers.
The good news is that Jesus died for you and me and brought us into salvation.
Mary didn’t do shit.☠️
The very founder of the "Reformation", Martin Luther, was the "regrettable" one, as he surveyed the damage that his rebellion against authority had caused. His writings show that he lamented his deed when he penned the following remarks...
"This one will not hear of Baptism, and that one denies the sacrament, another puts a world between this and the last day: some teach that Christ is not God, some say this, some say that: there are as many sects and creeds as there are heads. No yokel is so rude but when he has dreams and fancies, he thinks himself inspired by the Holy Ghost and must be a prophet."😂😂
Luther didn't have a little rebellion against authority. The RCC was incredibly corrupt. Luther had no notion of actually rebelling or starting a reformation. If you look into the history, he blundered into it by accident, and was actually forced into his position. All he did was write the 95 thesis, which was a college bulletin board way of starting a theological debate. It was a commonly done thing. It just so happened that he mentioned the selling of indulgences, which the pope was in on, and so powerful people in the church came against him. He really had no idea what he was starting. If the church hadn't been so corrupt, and hadn't tried to use him as an example, the things that happened would not have happened. Usually the church could just have a dissenter killed, which they did try to do w/ Luther. He had powerful allies, and I believe God was on his side on this one.
That’s an amazing quote because it describes Protestantism in a nutshell! This is what happens when everyone becomes their own pope:(
Those who love me will follow my commands, Lord Jesus.
Obedience to faith in Jesus Christ.
You cannot come to me unless my Father enables you.
Those who do the WILL of my Father will enter the Kingdom of God.
May our God, the Holy Trinity, bless our beautiful Catholic Church 🙏
This same Catholic church which is home to so many sodomite clergy?
Yes
Did you not see catholic church leads people to hell?
@@nosuchthing8please come to Christ
@@uganda_mn397 I was there long before you.
You read one verse and with that goes all of your beliefs. How about faith without works is dead ?
There many fine folks with noble intentions who performs good works WITHOUT FAITH IN JESUS. THE PROBLEM IS WHEN MERELY PROFESS FAITH VOCALLY AND SHOWS NO ACTION. CONFESS AND REAL FAITH WILL MOVE THE HEART TO ACTION.
That’s why you need both
What works did the thief on the cross do? We are in God's hands, and only He knows true hearts.
You're taking that verse out of context. Faith without works is dead, but it's not the works that save us. The works are evidence of our faith.
@@davidtakata7135
The thief on the cross admitted he was guilty of his sins., he changed his mind (repented)
Of his sinfulled life
He said:
Luke 23:41-43
We are punished justly, for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss.
[Thats Repentance]
42And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom. 43And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.
HE FEARED GOD. Anyone who refuses to acknowledge and change their mind (repent) about their sinfulled life will not be forgiven, just as the thief if he wouldn't have admitted his sins, he would not have believed or been forgiven.The thief on the other cross didn't admit he deserved to die he insulted Jesus, HE DID NOT FEAR GOD, he didn't admit his sins he said: If he is who he claims he is let him save himself and us.
The thief, first repented of sin along with believing is with Jesus in paradise.
LOL, Catholicism is the original, historic and biblical Christianity.
Without the Catholic Church, everyone of us would not have the Bible that we have it today, because the Catholic Church by the grace of God had compiled and canonized the Bible, deciding which holy books should belong and not to belong to it.
Hence, the Bible is a Catholic book and a Catholic document.
Folks, straighten your knowledge up!
Protestants don’t like authority
People, do not listen to these people who bring you their own opinions and interpretations and claim it is Biblical Christianity. There is only one Gospel and it is from the beginning: not from the 5th or 10th or 15th century. One Lord and one Gospel: read the early Church! Also read the early Church on the eternal damnation of those who separate from the Catholic Church and compose their own gospel message. Be warned and you will not have any excuse!
@georgepierson4920 *How simple is that?*
*Rev 17 speaks of Roman religion as the Apostate Church*
Check out this description from the Bible that fits Roman religion perfectly:
Roman religion, Rome (woman) ( city that sits on 7 hills)
Beast (spirit of Anti-Christ)
Woman on a scarlet beast : Roman religion and Rome which ride on the spirit of Anti X.
1. Roman priests love to wear scarlet and purple. Rev 17:4.
2. Roman religion loves to use golden cups. Rev 17:4.
3. Roman religion persecuted the real Christians (saints) in history from Roman times till modern days. Verse 17:6.
4. Seven mountains where the woman sits. Rome was called the city on 7 hills. Rev 17:9
THat's basically talking about Roman religion
5. Roman religion sits on peoples, multitudes, nations and tongues. Rev 17:15
6. Only Roman religion reigned over kings. Rev 17:18
7. Kings have whoredom with her. Rev 18:3
*Rev 18 R Church the Apostate Church destroyed*
Woman on the scarlet beast: Roman religion
Babylon: Rome
Beast: spirit of Anti-X
1. vs 2 . Corrupted Rome/ Roman religion has become a place for snomed (worshipping of queen of heaven Asheroth and others) and every f spirit.
2. vs 3. Roman religion had always been in collusive relationship with Kings of the earth, and had become rich through its corruption and greed.
3. vs 9. Roman religion used to ordain Kings . Kings used the power of Roman religion to conquer masses through control, and will lament its destruction.
4. vs 11-15. merchants who colluded with Roman religion would lament the loss of trade with R Church.
5. vs 20. Rome persecuted the Apostles of NT and prophets of old.
6. vs24. Roman religion who persecuted true Christians was found with the blood of prophet and saints
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You cannot prove Roman pagan religion is not biblical and Apostate
@Norbenrico Bacani *Where in the Bible says "Do Good Works to be saved" or "Bear fruits to be saved"? Where?*
*Versus Bible says "believe in Jesus to be saved". John 3:16.*
According to Scripture, Christ founded a visible Church that would never go out of existence and had authority to teach and discipline believers (see Matt. 16:18-19, 18:17). St. Paul tells us this Church is “the pillar and foundation of truth” (1 Tim. 3:15) and it was built on “the foundation of the apostles” (Eph. 2:20). Paul also tells us the Church would have a hierarchy composed of deacons (1 Tim. 3:8-13); presbyters, from where we get the English word priest (1 Tim. 5:17); and bishops (1 Tim. 3:1-7).
Paul even instructed one of these bishops, Titus, to appoint priests on the island of Crete (Titus 1:5). In A.D. 110, St. Ignatius of Antioch told his readers,
“Follow the bishop, even as Jesus Christ does the Father, and the presbytery as you would the apostles; and reverence the deacons, as being the institution of God. Let no man do anything connected with the Church without the bishop.” (Letter to the Smyrnaeans, 8)
Unlike the apostles, Christ’s Church would exist for all ages, so the apostle’s passed on to their successors the authority to bind and loose doctrine (see Matt. 18:18), forgive sins (see John 20:23), and speak on behalf of Christ (see Luke 10:16). Acts 1:20, for example, records how after Judas’s death Peter proclaimed that Judas’s office (or, in Greek, his bishoporic) would be transferred to a worthy successor. In 1 Timothy 5:22, Paul warned Timothy to “not be hasty in the laying on of hands” when he appointed new leaders in the church.
At the end of the first century, Clement of Rome, who according to ancient tradition was ordained by Peter himself, wrote,
“Our apostles knew through our Lord Jesus Christ that there would be strife for the office of bishop . . . [so they made preparations that] . . . if they should die, other approved men should succeed to their ministry” (Letter to the Corinthians 44:1-3).
Just as the apostles’ authority was passed on their successors, Peter’s authority as the leader of the apostles and the rock on whom the Church was built (Matt 16:18) was passed on to his successor. This man inherited the keys to the kingdom of heaven (Matt. 16:19) and Peter’s duty to shepherd Christ’s flock (see John 21:15-17). Peter’s successor was the pastor of Christ’s church and a spiritual father to the Lord’s children (1 Cor. 4:15), thus explaining his offices future title pope, which comes from papa, the Latin word for father.
Myth #2 - The Bishop of Rome had no special authority in the early Church. Peter was never even in Rome!
Both the New Testament and the early Church Fathers testify to Peter being in Rome. At the end of his first letter, Peter says he is writing from “Babylon” (5:13), which was a common code word for Rome, because both empires were lavish persecutors of God’s people (see Rev. 17-18; Oxford Dictionary of the Popes, 6).
In the words of Protestant scholar D.A. Carson, Peter was “in Rome about 63 (the probable date of 1 Peter). Eusebius implies that Peter was in Rome during the reign of Claudius, who died in 54 (H.E. 2.14.6)” (An Introduction to the New Testament, 180). Peter may not have always been present in Rome (which would explain why Paul does not address him in his epistle to the Romans), but there is a solid tradition that Peter founded the Church in Rome and later died there.
For example, Paul says the Roman Church was founded by “another man” (Rom. 15:21), and St. Ignatius of Antioch told the Christians in Rome he would not command them in the same way Peter had previously commanded them. At the end of the second century, St. Irenaeus wrote, “The blessed apostles [Peter and Paul], having founded and built up the church [of Rome], they handed over the office of the episcopate to Linus” (Against Heresies 3:3:3).
A priest named Gaius who lived during Irenaeus’s time even told a heretic named Proclus that “the trophies of the apostles” (i.e., their remains) were buried at Vatican Hill (Eusebius, Church History 2:25:5). Indeed, archaeological evidence unearthed in the twentieth century revealed a tomb attributed to Peter underneath St. Peter’s basilica in Rome. According to the Oxford Dictionary of Saints, “it is probable that the tomb is authentic. It is also significant that Rome is the only city that ever claimed to be Peter’s place of death” (353).
In regard to the authority of the Bishop of Rome as Peter’s successor, in the first century Clement of Rome (the fourth pope) intervened in a dispute in the Church of Corinth. He warned those who disobeyed him that they would “involve themselves in transgression and in no small danger,” thus demonstrating his authority over non-Roman Christians.
St. Ignatius of Antioch referred to the Roman Church as the one that teaches other churches and “presides in love” over them. In fact, the writings of Pope Clement (A.D. 92-99) and Pope Soter (A.D. 167-174) were so popular that they were read in the Church alongside Scripture (Eusebius, Church History 4:23:9).
In A.D. 190, Pope St. Victor I excommunicated an entire region of churches for refusing to celebrate Easter on its proper date. While St. Irenaeus thought this was not prudent, neither he nor anyone else denied that Victor had the authority to do this. Indeed, Irenaeus said, “it is a matter of necessity that every Church should agree with this Church [Rome] on account of its preeminent authority” (Against Heresies, 3.3.2).
Keep in mind that all of this evidence dates a hundred to two hundred years before Christianity was legalized in the Roman Empire, thus deflating the Fundamentalist theory that the papacy was created by the Roman emperor in the fourth century.
Some people object that if Peter and his successors had special authority, why didn’t Christ say so when the apostles argued about “who was the greatest” (Luke 22:24)? The reason is that Christ did not want to contribute to their misunderstanding that one of them would be a privileged king. Jesus did say, however, that among the apostles there would be a “greatest” who would rule as a humble servant (Luke 22:26). That’s why since the sixth century popes have called themselves servus servorum Dei, or “servant of the servants of God.”
Pope Gregory I used the title in his dispute with the Patriarch of Constantinople John the Faster, who called himself the “Universal Bishop.” Gregory didn’t deny that one bishop had primacy over all the others, since in his twelfth epistle Gregory explcitly says Constaninople was subject to the authority of the pope. Instead, he denied that the pope was the bishop of every individual territory, since this would rob his brother bishops of their legitimate authority, even though they were still subject to him as Peter’s successor.
Excellent rebuttal. For me, it is a matter of trusting Jesus. As you said, He founded a Church, and promised that the gates of Hell would never prevail against it. He later promised that the Holy Spirit would be with His Church until the end of the age. Paul compared Jesus’ relationship to His Church as that of a man and his wife - one that is based on unconditional love and eternal loyalty.
Protestants reject all that. They basically are saying that they don’t trust Jesus. They don’t believe what He promised about His Church. Instead they lean on their own individual interpretations of a handful of cherry-picked statements by Paul. And…that’s why there is still one Catholic Church and literally tens of thousands of Protestant sects.
@payne *Roman ct members love to make hilarious claims. Bible does not say Roman ct = the Church Christ founded or the Universal Church. Neither any writings or Ignatius. Roman Catholics love false claims.*
*nt Church of the Bible did not have Roman pontiff neither Roman priests, neither did Apostles pray to dead saints or Mary, neither did Apostles and Jesus make statues for Mary and saint .. Neither bow down to statues .. Neither Roman unholy water, neither sinless Mary, neither veneration of skulls bones tongues ... So where are all these man made doctrines of Rome in the Bible? Neither all the below man made doctrines! Wonder where they come from?*
*There was never a Catholic Church in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Catholic Church in the Bible.*
*There was never a Catholic in the Bible.*
*There was never a Roman Catholic in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church pope in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church priest in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church cardinal in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church sinless Mary in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church unholy water in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church penance in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church purgatory in the Bible.*
*There was never a R Church canonised saint in the Bible.*
*There was never an Nt believer who made or bow down to statues in the Bible.*
*There was never an Nt believer who prays or received prayers from passed saints or Mary in the Bible.*
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According to Scripture, Christ founded a visible Church that would never go out of existence and had authority to teach and discipline believers (see Matt. 16:18-19, 18:17). St. Paul tells us this Church is “the pillar and foundation of truth” (1 Tim. 3:15) and it was built on “the foundation of the apostles” (Eph. 2:20). Paul also tells us the Church would have a hierarchy composed of deacons (1 Tim. 3:8-13); presbyters, from where we get the English word priest (1 Tim. 5:17); and bishops (1 Tim. 3:1-7).
Paul even instructed one of these bishops, Titus, to appoint priests on the island of Crete (Titus 1:5). In A.D. 110, St. Ignatius of Antioch told his readers,
“Follow the bishop, even as Jesus Christ does the Father, and the presbytery as you would the apostles; and reverence the deacons, as being the institution of God. Let no man do anything connected with the Church without the bishop.” (Letter to the Smyrnaeans, 8)
Unlike the apostles, Christ’s Church would exist for all ages, so the apostle’s passed on to their successors the authority to bind and loose doctrine (see Matt. 18:18), forgive sins (see John 20:23), and speak on behalf of Christ (see Luke 10:16). Acts 1:20, for example, records how after Judas’s death Peter proclaimed that Judas’s office (or, in Greek, his bishoporic) would be transferred to a worthy successor. In 1 Timothy 5:22, Paul warned Timothy to “not be hasty in the laying on of hands” when he appointed new leaders in the church.
@biblealone9201 *Your man made claims is hilarious Roman ct member.*
- Mat 16 does not say the Church is Roman Catholic ct though. So its a man made claim.
- Mat 18 also does not say the Church is Roman Catholic ct. So its another man made claim.
- Isaiah 22 does not say its a Church. Neither there is such thing as a pope. So its another man made claim.
- Eph 5 say Church is to subject itself to Christ. Not to Roman Catholic magisterium man made institution.
- Acts 6 does not say "priest". It says "elders". You are proving Roman ct is a man made organisation. Just to add: Bible does not say anything about the man made cleriges of Roman ct - Roman ct pope, cardinals, friars, monks, nuns, priests, ....*
- ACts 1:20 is Not Apostolic Succession. Mattias replacing Judas was a one off event. We do not see new 11 Apostles replacing the Original 11 Apostles. Bible teaches Leadership Succession (elders/leaders replacing Apostles). Not Apostolic Succession (New Apostles replacing Original 12 Apostles).*
- Mal 1:11 does not even refer to blood sacrifice. So you are misquoting Scriptures. There are 8 Hebrew words for "offerings" or "sacrifices" in Old Testament. The word Mal 1:11 uses is Not for blood sacrifice. So you are misquoting Scriptures.
- lazy to list more errors. You are just spouting a load of ns all days.*
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What Holy Scripture has said Christ's Church would be:
How Christ's Church has conformed to Holy Scripture:
It will be founded by GOD: Psalms 127:1, Matthew 16:18 It was founded by GOD.
It will be highly visible: Isaiah 2:2, Matthew 5:14
It is highly visible.
It will have the authority: Matthew 18:15-18, John 20:21-22
It has the authority given to it by Jesus Christ.
It will have a Father Figure: Isaiah 22:20-25
It has a Father Figure, as GOD always had for His people.
It will be a Theocracy and not a Democracy: Eph 5:23-24
It is a Theocracy. It is governed from the top down. The blueprint for it is described in the book of Acts. It is blueprinted in the book of Acts.
It will have priests, deacons, Bishops: Acts 6:1-6,14:22,20:28
It always has had priests, deacons, and Bishops.
It will have Apostolic Succession: Psalm 109:8, Acts 1:20-26
It has Apostolic Succession.
It will offer sacrifice every day in every place: Malachi 1:11
It does offer sacrifice every day in every place.
It will be guided by the Holy Spirit: John 14:16-17, 16:12-13
It is guided by the Holy Spirit: Acts 15:28, Rev 2:7 Truths of GOD to be revealed to it over time: John 16:12-13 Truths of GOD have been revealed to it over time: Eph 3:10 It will be the Pillar and Foundation of Truth: 1Timothy 3:15 It is the Pillar and Foundation of Truth. It will be the guardian of truth: 2Timothy 1:13-14
Imagine asking a non Catholic what a Catholic believes 😂. This video has alot of misinformation.
that's all Prots do, my friend
Many Prots are ex papists and so know how evil the pagan sect of Roman Catholicism is
imagine a protestant who was raised Catholic and read the Catechism of the Catholic Church, as well as the Deuterocanonical, and documents of Vatican 1 and 2, and Trent, and the writings of Augustine, Aquinas etc.
just cause we're not Roman Catholic, doesn't mean we can't read.
@jameshogan6142 *Why no answer Roman ct member? Bible does not teach Apostolic Succession (new 12 Apostles replacing original 12 Apostles). Bible teaches Leadership Succession (elders/leaders replacing 12 Apostles), Titus 1:5.*
@sienna9914 *Bible DOES NOT TEACH "Outside Roman Church there is no salvation". So where did you get all that ns?*
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where there is no salvation outside of her
This is a typical problem all religious entities suffer, pulling so far away from one heresy they rush past truth to create another heresy. This is one of the issues plaguing the faith-alone crowd. Nonetheless, if one need not dip in water, to be buried with Christ in immersion, then why did the Bible make such an issue of his shedding of blood and our act of a good conscious to connect to this blood through water? Why did Jesus tell Nikodemus to enter the Kingdom, one must be born of water and spirit, not a second time from a mother's womb, but a physical act in direct connection to the spiritual conversion?
Since it is a command, then it cannot be a work, for we are also commanded to believe, the key element in pleasing God (Heb 11:6). I believing a work?
To say immersion is a voluntary work is like saying obedience to orders is voluntary. Such a statement is oxymoronic.
One cannot find truth by studying to defeat Catholicism as a primary goal This sort of study skews understanding by the creation of predetermined conclusions. We must study the word first, isolated from what other heretical doctrines have to say on the matter, find out what God's word says in totality, and then, being in possession of God's truth, point an accusing finger at Catholic doctrine.
In all things, the first step in discovering truth is to put all one's beliefs on the chopping block, subject to verification. Then, if when one discovers he or she has harbored a false belief, he must let it go. Too many so-called Christians find this the hardest thing to do, setting themselves up for bad news on that day. (Lord, Lord, didn't I prophecy and cast out demons in your name?) Personally, I don't care what the truth is or where I find it - as long as it is the truth and not simply someone's notion.
The difference is non Catholics pick and choose which specific part of the Bible they want to interpret, and interpret it the way they feel on that day to suit their own personal needs
Exactly
If Roman Catholicism was founded by Simon Peter, why the name ROMAN Catholicism when Jesus and most of His apostles were crucified by the Romans? If Christianity was born in Israel, why is it based in Rome? Is it because Christianity was hijacked by emperor Constantine and mixed it with his pagan religion that is full of traditions, rituals and graven images? Why was the virgin Mary remained a virgin in your belief when he had sons and daughters that came after Jesus and why was she elevated to queen of heaven when nothing was said about her in the bible? Why do you pray to her and the saints when the bible explicitly said that only Jesus is the way, the truth and the life?? My dear catholic brothers and sisters, you have to ponder about this questions and truly read the bible and understand what it preaches. I pray for your enlightenment and salvation. ✝️
@@ndor1429 Simon Peter was not he founder of the Catholic Church, Jesus Christ was.
Mary is the mother of Jesus, Jesus is God the Father. Mary was according to the Bible which is the word of God
"Greetings, you who are highly favored! The Lord is with you.”
“Do not be afraid, Mary; you have found favor with God."
Mary was with Jesus at the birth, His first miracle which she prompted, His death - no one else was.
Why would Jesus give His mother to John to look after if He had many brothers and sisters? He was giving the Woman to us all.
Simeon spoke to (not Joseph) ' and told her that a sword will pierce her soul too
Paganism is what we have today in a majority of small c christian churches. They believe in whatever they want that suits them today - the greats, i.e. Hillsong, Ravi, K Copeland are all pagans nd do the work of the devil.
The Bible says - "Hold on to your traditions"
Jesus follwoed the traditions throughout His life, even to the very end
Pray for my enlightenment as we always need that, but do not pray from my salvation as this comes from God alone
God Bless you
@@ndor1429 a few questions for you please, do u believe
1. in sola scriptura?
2. everyone is a pope, i.e. there is no human leader of any church?
3. anyone can interpret the Bible anyway they want? if so, why is mine wrong?
4. are only those babptsed by full body submersion going to heaven?
5. are we allowed to celebrate anything or is this evil tradition? e.g. Christmas, Easter, Birthdays, Independence Day etc..
"We confess one baptism for the forgiveness of sins" and you keep confessing it, over and over again that you are commanded to say the Nicene Creed, and to repeat it over and over, is the definition of faithless, and violates Matt 6:7 "But when ye pray, use not *vain repetitions*, as the *heathen* do: for they think that they shall be heard for their *much speaking*"
@aaronsmith5904 *Roman pagan religion merely makes claims that it does not teach Works Salvation. But in actual fact it does.*
*If Roman Catholicism is truth or Church of the Bible, why was there not a single New Covenant believer saved in a Roman Catholic way in the whole Bible? Why is that so? Please explain coherently intelligently.*
- submit to Roman pope to be saved
- devote to Roman Mary to be saved
- be in Roman Church to be saved
- partake Roman sacraments to be saved
- baptise in Roman baptism to be saved
- do lots of works to be saved
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The catholic church agrees with the biblical notion that we are saved by grace alone,
This is the catholic teaching. So it is very clear that works do not merit salvation in the catholic system. But works do play a role in salvation, they are never a cause, but do play a role. Mainly in the final judgement at least. Note that any works done, are done by grace through faith. It is the Holy Spirit that moves man to do good works. any 'merit' is not on Man but on God who gives them the grace to both have the idea and put into practice good works. "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus in good works, which God hath prepared that we should walk in them." - Ephesians 2:10
There is a great youtube channel titled HOW TO BE CHRISTIAN which proves that Protestantism is in and of itself not Christian, though many Protestants somewhat hold to a few Christian teachings in some of the Protestant denominations. But basically, HOW TO BE CHRISTIAN proves that Catholic is Christian, while Protestant is not. Check it out.
@Just from Catholic *YEs i agree. R Ct is notorious for saying one thing and saying/doing the direct opposite. R Ct teaches "faith + good works + partake R sacraments + submit to R pontiff + be in R Church + devote to Mary = to be saved". This is clearly Works Salvation.*
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You created your own version of Catholicism. Show me official Catholic teaching that we believe sanctification and glorification are by works. The official teaching of the Catholic Church says that our justification comes from God's grace (Catechism of the Catholic Church # 1996) and Justification includes sanctification, forgiveness of sins and renewal of new man (ibid # 2019).
You just created another caricature. You are free person - you can do whatever you like. By caricaturing you are attacking straw man and are wasting your time. You may be able to fool some, including yourself.
@@justfromcatholic *YEs i agree. UrIg of your rct m m faith.*
@@jediv9492 It is your life and your decision. You are free to do what you like, even it is not written in Scripture.
@@justfromcatholic *It's your life and decision. You are free to choose a m m ct with 95% doctrines Not from Jesus Apostles and Scriptures.*
@@jediv9910 Tell me where does Scripture says what we believe mostly do not come from Scripture? How did you get 95%?
James 2:14-26
James 2:10
Read in context please
@@uganda_mn397 Read the entire New Testament, including all of James 2 in context. Jesus and His apostles make it very clear that we are not saved on our beliefs alone. What we do, or do not do, during our lives has profound impact on our final judgment. Nobody who has read the entire New Testament can deny that. And that is the problem with “Biblical Christianity” - it ignores much of the Bible, and ignores how Christianity has interpreted the entire Bible for 1500+ years before the Protestant revolution can along. Biblical Christianity really means “those who have rejected Jesus’ Church in favor of their own individual interpretations of the Bible.” No thank you, I trust Jesus and the Church He built on the Rock.
@@ChaChaDancin that is what you add saying it really means something different than it says.
Now, there is an apparent contradiction between james 2 and james ephesians 2:8-9, romans 3:28, galatians 2, hebrews ( basically whole letter ) and you know this. Now obviously if james says in 2:10 if you break one commandment, you have broken it all.
Therefore, james obviously spoke of the Faith that is living, that actually changed The man from inside out and received The Gifts from ezekiel 36:26.
Because your works show you are saved, that is how in a sense work are followed by salvation.
Now that is why the writer of ephesians can write we are saved by Faith through Grace
Or in romans 3:28 that is we are saved apart from works.
If you still haven't believed, just read luke 13:1-5, Words of our Lord
@@uganda_mn397 I’m adding that Jesus and His apostles taught over and over again that we will be judged according to what we do during our lives? Read the Bible, man. The whole thing, not just the parts that Pastor Jimmy tells you to. Thinking about your theology for a minute. If I join your church, and am “born again, saved”, then I can go out and become a serial killer and make my living robbing widows and abusing orphans, and I’ll still go to heaven, according to your interpretation of a few cherry-picked verses. Does that square up with what Jesus spent His whole life teaching? Honestly?
@@ChaChaDancin no, read ezekiel 36:26
Besides you get This after giving Jesus your whole live and believing only in His sacrifice
@Just from Catholic *Faith Alone doctrine speaks of Outcome too. Eph **2:10**.*
Bible is clear:
- Salvation is Not By Works - Eph 2:8-9 ( Faith Alone)
- Saved to do Good Works - Eph 2:10, James 2, Mat 7( Not By Faith Alone).*
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Your answer is standard - Paul in Romans wrote about the source or root of justification while James and Mat. 7:21 are about fruit or outcome of justification. That is the solution proposed based on faith-alone justification taught by the Reformers. In contrast, Catholics believe that justification is a process that starts with faith and includes sanctification.
@Just from Catholic *WHere in Psalms 106 says its something done? Lol*
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Both Gen. 15:6 and Psalms 106:31 says "what is counted for righteousness" but the former says it is faith or belief and the latter says it is something done. It is not only faith that is counted for righteousness.
Either you pretend to be blind or are blinded by the teaching of the Reformers. Psalms 106:31 clearly says that what was counted for righteousness to Phinehas was NOT faith.
@@justfromcatholic *You are just misquoting Scriptures. Psalms 106 refers to Old Covenant. Not New Covenant which teaches Salvation is Not by Works.*
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Either you pretend to be blind or are blinded by the teaching of the Reformers. Psalms 106:31 clearly says that what was counted for righteousness to Phinehas was NOT faith.
@@jediv9492 Neither Old Covenant taught salvation by works. God does not change (Malachi 3:6). It is righteousness that delivers from death (Prov. 10:2) and Jesus said the righteous shall go to eternal life. Ironically it is the Reformers who changed it. They taught you don't need to be made righteous to enter heaven. You follow their teaching and at the same time shamelessly claim Scripture is your final authority!
Big difference ...
no comparison ...
Grace through faith !
Are you believers ready ?see you in the clouds ...
Any day Now Any day
Stay Strong ...
Stay Blessed. ❗️🙏🏼❤️🎺
The Greek roots of the term “Catholic” mean “according to (kata-) the whole (holos),” or more colloquially, “universal.” At the beginning of the second century, we find in the letters of Ignatius the first surviving use of the term “Catholic” in reference to the Church. At that time, or shortly thereafter, it was used to refer to a single, visible communion, separate from others.
The term “Catholic” is in the Apostles’, Nicene, and Athanasian creeds, and many Protestants, claiming the term for themselves, give it a meaning that is unsupported historically, ignoring the term’s use at the time the creeds were written.
Early Church historian J. N. D. Kelly, a Protestant, writes: “As regards ‘Catholic,’ its original meaning was ‘universal’ or ‘general.’ . . . in the latter half of the second century at latest, we find it conveying the suggestion that the Catholic is the true Church as distinct from heretical congregations (cf., e.g., Muratorian Canon). . . . What these early Fathers were envisaging was almost always the empirical, visible society; they had little or no inkling of the distinction which was later to become important between a visible and an invisible Church” (Early Christian Doctrines, 190-1).
Thus people who recite the creeds mentally inserting another meaning for “Catholic” are reinterpreting them according to a modern preference, much as a liberal biblical scholar does with Scripture texts offensive to contemporary sensibilities.
Included in the quotes below are extracts from the first creeds to use the term “Catholic”; so that the term can be seen in its historical context, which is supplied by the other quotations. It is from this broader context that the meaning of the term in the creeds is established, not by one’s own notion of what the term once meant or of what it ought to mean.
Ignatius of Antioch
“Let no one do anything of concern to the Church without the bishop. Let that be considered a valid Eucharist which is celebrated by the bishop or by one whom he ordains [i.e., a presbyter]. Wherever the bishop appears, let the people be there; just as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church” (Letter to the Smyrneans 8:2 [A.D. 110]).
The Martyrdom of Polycarp
“And of the elect, he was one indeed, the wonderful martyr Polycarp, who in our days was an apostolic and prophetic teacher, bishop of the Catholic Church in Smyrna. For every word which came forth from his mouth was fulfilled and will be fulfilled” (Martyrdom of Polycarp 16:2 [A.D. 155]).
The Muratorian Canon
“Besides these [letters of Paul] there is one to Philemon, and one to Titus, and two to Timothy, in affection and love, but nevertheless regarded as holy in the Catholic Church, in the ordering of churchly discipline. There is also one [letter] to the Laodiceans and another to the Alexandrians, forged under the name of Paul, in regard to the heresy of Marcion, and there are several others which cannot be received by the Church, for it is not suitable that gall be mixed with honey. The epistle of Jude, indeed, and the two ascribed to John are received by the Catholic Church (Muratorian fragment [A.D. 177]).
Tertullian
“Where was [the heretic] Marcion, that shipmaster of Pontus, the zealous student of Stoicism? Where was Valentinus, the disciple of Platonism? For it is evident that those men lived not so long ago-in the reign of Antonius for the most part-and that they at first were believers in the doctrine of the Catholic Church, in the church of Rome under the episcopate of the blessed Eleutherius, until on account of their ever restless curiosity, with which they even infected the brethren, they were more than once expelled” (Demurrer Against the Heretics 30 [A.D. 200]).
Cyprian of Carthage
“You ought to know, then, that the bishop is in the Church and the Church in the bishops; and if someone is not with the bishop, he is not in the Church. They vainly flatter themselves who creep up, not having peace with the priest of God, believing that they are secretly in communion with certain individuals. For the Church, which is one and catholic, is not split or divided, but is indeed united and joined by the cement of priests who adhere to one another” (Letters 66[67]:8 [A.D. 253]).
Council of Nicaea I
“But those who say: ‘There was [a time] when he [the Son] was not,’ and ‘before he was born, he was not,’ and ‘because he was made from non-existing matter, he is either of another substance or essence,’ and those who call ‘God the Son of God changeable and mutable,’ these the Catholic Church anathematizes” (Appendix to the Creed of Nicaea [A.D. 325]).
“Concerning those who call themselves Cathari [Novatians], that is, ‘the Clean,’ if at any time they come to the Catholic Church, it has been decided by the holy and great council that, provided they receive the imposition of hands, they remain among the clergy. However, because they are accepting and following the doctrines of the catholic and apostolic Church, it is fitting that they acknowledge this in writing before all; that is, both that they communicate with the twice married and with those who have lapsed during a persecution” (Canon 8).
Cyril of Jerusalem
“[The Church] is called catholic, then, because it extends over the whole world, from end to end of the earth, and because it teaches universally and infallibly each and every doctrine which must come to the knowledge of men, concerning things visible and invisible, heavenly and earthly, and because it brings every race of men into subjection to godliness, governors and governed, learned and unlearned, and because it universally treats and heals every class of sins, those committed with the soul and those with the body, and it possesses within itself every conceivable form of virtue, in deeds and in words and in the spiritual gifts of every description” (Catechetical Lectures 18:23 [A.D. 350]).
“And if you ever are visiting in cities, do not inquire simply where the house of the Lord is-for the others, sects of the impious, attempt to call their dens ‘houses of the Lord’-nor ask merely where the Church is, but where is the Catholic Church. For this is the name peculiar to this holy Church, the mother of us all, which is the spouse of our Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God” (ibid., 18:26).
The Apostles’ Creed
“I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and the life everlasting. Amen” (Apostles’ Creed [A.D. 360 version, the first to include the term “Catholic”]).
Council of Constantinople I
“I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father, who together with the Father and the Son is worshiped and glorified, who spoke through the prophets; in one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church” (Nicene Creed [A.D. 381]).
“Those who embrace orthodoxy and join the number of those who are being saved from the heretics, we receive in the following regular and customary manner: Arians, Macedonians, Sabbatians, Novatians, those who call themselves Cathars and Aristeri, Quartodecimians or Tetradites, Apollinarians- these we receive when they hand in statements and anathematize every heresy which is not of the same mind as the holy, catholic, and apostolic Church of God” (Canon 7).
Augustine
“We must hold to the Christian religion and to communication in her Church, which is catholic and which is called catholic not only by her own members but even by all her enemies. For when heretics or the adherents of schisms talk about her, not among themselves but with strangers, willy-nilly they call her nothing else but Catholic. For they will not be understood unless they distinguish her by this name which the whole world employs in her regard” (The True Religion 7:12 [A.D. 390]).
“We believe in the holy Church, that is, the Catholic Church; for heretics and schismatics call their own congregations churches. But heretics violate the faith itself by a false opinion about God; schismatics, however, withdraw from fraternal love by hostile separations, although they believe the same things we do. Consequently, neither heretics nor schismatics belong to the Catholic Church; not heretics, because the Church loves God, and not schismatics, because the Church loves neighbor” (Faith and Creed 10:21 [A.D. 393]).
“If you should find someone who does not yet believe in the gospel, what would you [Mani] answer him when he says, ‘I do not believe’? Indeed, I would not believe in the gospel myself if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so” (ibid., 5:6).
“[T]here are many other things which most properly can keep me in her [the Catholic Church’s] bosom. The unanimity of peoples and nations keeps me here. Her authority, inaugurated in miracles, nourished by hope, augmented by love, and confirmed by her age, keeps me here. The succession of priests, from the very see of the apostle Peter, to whom the Lord, after his resurrection, gave the charge of feeding his sheep [John 21:15-17], up to the present episcopate, keeps me here. And last, the very name Catholic, which, not without reason, belongs to this Church alone, in the face of so many heretics, so much so that, although all heretics want to be called ‘Catholic,’ when a stranger inquires where the Catholic Church meets, none of the heretics would dare to point out his own basilica or house” (Against the Letter of Mani Called “The Foundation” 4:5 [A.D. 397]).
Vincent of Lerins
“I have often then inquired earnestly and attentively of very many men eminent for sanctity and learning, how and by what sure and so to speak universal rule I may be able to distinguish the truth of Catholic faith from the falsehood of heretical depravity; and I have always, and in almost every instance, received an answer to this effect: that whether I or anyone else should wish to detect the frauds and avoid the snares of heretics as they arise, and to continue sound and complete in the Catholic faith, we must, the Lord helping, fortify our own belief in two ways: first, by the authority of the divine law [Scripture], and then by the tradition of the Catholic Church. But here some one perhaps will ask, ‘Since the canon of Scripture is complete, and sufficient of itself for everything, and more than sufficient, what need is there to join with it the authority of the Church’s interpretation?’ For this reason: Because, owing to the depth of holy Scripture, all do not accept it in one and the same sense, but one understands its words in one way, another in another, so that it seems to be capable of as many interpretations as there are men. . . . Therefore, it is very necessary, on account of so great intricacies of such various errors, that the rule for the right understanding of the prophets and apostles should be framed in accordance with the standard of ecclesiastical and catholic interpretation” (The Notebooks 2:1-2 [A.D. 434]).
Council of Chalcedon
“Since in certain provinces readers and cantors have been allowed to marry, this sacred synod decrees that none of them is permitted to marry a wife of heterodox views. If those thus married have already had children, and if they have already had the children baptized among heretics, they are to bring them into the communion of the Catholic Church” (Canon 14 [A.D. 451]).
@@paynedvare you making a point or just insight?
@@paynedv he’s just copying and pasting that everywhere. He can’t actually defend his beliefs with the Holy Bible so he’s trying to steal the word Catholic used by the early church fathers and say it’s them. He’s no different from a Jehovah witness or Hebrew Israelite who steal words that are used by Christians to try to make it seem like they are the true children of GOD. None of those church fathers thought the Roman Catholic Church was the universal church, they were all talking about the Christian body of Christ when saying universal. The Roman Catholic Church didn’t even start until after 325AD or 590AD depending on which source you want to use, they came way later and just started stealing that word and stealing Peter’s work. Plus Peter didn’t even found his church in Rome, he founded his church in Jerusalem. We are told to call ourselves unashamed Christians in 1 Peter 4:16, yet catholics don’t even listen to their supposed leader and call themselves that. The Roman Catholics that exist today are not Christians, they are pagan idolaters.
James 2:24
I'm Catholic period
I’m ex Catholic
@@Nahhdu57 shame on you for leaving the Catholic church
Jesus wasn't Catholic. Focus on him and not angels, saints and his earthly Mother who was a sinner and needed salvation like anyone else.
Just look at Jesus and you'll see religion is wrong.
@@stevec9095 Jesus is Catholic he gave us the Catholic church the Catholic church gave us the Bible
Yes Mary needed a saviour in a sense she was preserved from sin since birth
Unless you are saying God isn't powerful enough to do that to Mary
@@andreeattieh2963 Scripture doesn’t say Jesus was Catholic. After Jesus died and resurrected, the Romans still hated Christians and killed them for hundreds of years. Once there was finally a conversion through Roman Emperor Constantine, he promoted a mixture of true Christianity and Roman paganism.
Catholic beliefs and practices regarding Mary are completely absent from the Bible. So are the saints, papacy, and the Lords Supper being a consumption of the literal body and blood of Jesus is not taught in the Bible. Several ancient pagan religions, like Mithraism, was very popular in the Roman Empire, and had eating of a God as a ritualistic practice.
Is it possible that the Romans, who started the Roman Catholic Church, could have forced their mixture of scripture and paganism to grow and spread and be the authority or else. The answer is yes, and that’s why it’s important to stick to what’s truly Gods word and strictly challenge anything that comes from man.
Yup! I didn’t watch the video but dats great! 🎉
I am always amazed on how unbiblical "Biblical Christians" are. The Catholic Church wrote and selected what books would be in the Bible. Remember the Protestants had to throw books out of the Bible so that it would not totally contradict Protestantism's recent man-made doctrines (BTW their "abridged" Bible still contradicts Protestantism). I have never ever seen anything that the Catholic Church teaches that is not explicitly stated in the Bible or is not at least strongly implied. The primary example is of course the Real Presence of Jesus in the Holy Eucharist, which was believed by all Christians for 1,500 years because it is so apparent and explicitly stated in the Bible, the ability of the Church through the priest to forgive sins, or the institution of the office of Peter as the first Pope. However, the 30,000 Protestant denominations not only contradict the Bible but contradict each other at every step. I am sorry but sometimes it such a hoot to watch Protestant apologetic videos and see ministers tie themselves in Biblical verbal knots trying to defend recent man-made Protestant doctrines and deny what is plainly stated in particular passages. God Bless.
According to the Bible, there was just the one Christian sect led in turn by Jesus Christ, St Peter and evidently St Paul. Today there is still just the one Catholic Religion, and when you refer to it in your title everybody knows who you mean. There are rather a lot of sects who refuse to identify that Catholic Religion with the sect that we read about in the Bible, and none of them come anywhere close to competing.
Catholics arent christian .there mary worship .and mary has never heard a prayer from them .biggest sinners ive ever met are catholic
@@jeffrey6618 In my country, whose language I am speaking, Protestantism and Freemasonry are the same religion. Ask the Archbishop of Canterbury.
@@david_porthouse freemasonry is a covert branch of catholicism.
And both love them obelisks.
@@astutik8909 You are just talking rubbish.
@@david_porthouse
Have a look at all the catholic obelisk sungods.
Vatican
St johns lateran
St marias
Constantinople.
Etc
Freemasonry love obelisks as well.
Both catholics and masons use the same black and white floors, magic numbers etc.
Masonry is catholic. No doubt about it.
How about the one where one dies and goes to purgatory then can get absolved by the church? That takes away the scripture that says, after one life there is one death, and after death, one judgement!.. 🤔 they need to look at that! 🕵
*YEs indeed. R Catholic doctrines come from fairy tales. Lol*
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How about the one where one dies and goes to purgatory then can get absolved by the church? That takes away the scripture that says, after one life there is one death, and after death, one judgement!.. 🤔 they need to look at that! 🕵
No one is saved except through faith in the name of the one true holy and undefiled virgin Daugther of God, Joan of Arc. No one comes to God except through her. A crown of 12 stars is upon her head,
@@erichansen3641 that is a heresy! Salvation comes only from Jesus Christ, no one else!.. 🕵 read it, it's in the word of GOD...
@@jediv9910 it's not fairy tales, it's demonic, because it takes away the authoriity that the father gave to Jesus for salvation..it wasn't mary that died on the cross to save the world from sin but jesus!..
@@louisvega1834 Don't be left behind. Place your faith in the QUEEN OF HEAVEN, the only path to God.
How can we be sure that those living at the time of the Reformation understood the NT correctly and were not seeing it through their own lenses?
Is salvation something past or future according to the Bible?
Where does it say that all the faithful will go to heaven ?
How did Christians organise themselves and formulate doctrine before the NT was completed ? We had Christians? We had doctrine. We had no New Testament. So how could they have Sola Scriptura?
Once a person makes it through what Helena Blavatsky called the "no-pass zone," a person's faith is immovable.
And the true faith is the Catholic faith and the true Church is the Catholic Church which Christ our lord and savior established. ✝️🇻🇦
Nice! Yes! The furtherance of "Loving your neighbor as yourself" realizes that Jesus was leading us to the "sense recognition" (Super Consciousness) that we are psychophysically with each other, the animals, the earth, within the cosmos. Jesus leads us to 'come to' or awaken to the noticeable reality right in front of our faces that we exist in the psychophysical energy of the Universal Consciousness of the earth. But this realization has to be opened through the 'door of the inner room' and entails potent-correct teachings with understandings on our part. My Universal vision told me that all people are psychophysically One. I realized that this is what the Mystical Body of Christ means and my faith is rooted in my Self-Realization which is really Self-Other-Realization. I let the theologians explain about God. We are the Mystical Body of Christ. Jesus introduced us to our Spirit, i.e., our shared Spirit - "Love your neighbor as yourself." We share the energy of our Spirit. We need to be careful what we are doing to each other through our communication. We are in the process of getting a hold of ourselves. God Bless You.@@AnonymousIdealist
I think about how the catholic church can excommunicate someone. that is sort of like when you had to go through the high priest to get to God. when the veil was torn it cut out the middle man. I believe no man or institution can tell you that you lose your salvation, it is between you and God.
Excommunication is simply saying "you're not Catholic." Do you object to being told you're not Catholic?
@@jasonrodgers880 i wasnt aware of that, thanks for clarifying.
@@bikiniluvnguy1 you’ve seriously shocked me! I’m sincerely appreciative/impressed, because when I speak to teachings of the Catholic stance, I’m often greeted with anger and refusal to hear me.
Thank you for refreshing my sense of fraternity in my siblings in Christ!
@@jasonrodgers880 I dont know everything, and am wrong at times. I am always willing to listen to new things and learn. thanks again.
@@bikiniluvnguy1 bro don't believe in this lie when catholics say you are excommunicated means you lose your salvation because these Romans believe there is no salvation outside of the catholic temple.
You people don’t have the courage to present True Catholic View of salvation. You only presented a twisted version.
May God rebuke you.
God bless 🙏🏻
Pray the Rosary 📿
Viva Cristo Rey!
@justfromcatholic *Simple. By counting kindergarten kid.*
*95% of R Church doctrines were unheard of in 1st century and not from traditions of Jesus and Apostles or Scriptures or contradicts Scriptures! Jesus, Apostles and Nt Church of the Bible had not heard or practised any of these Rc doctrines.*
1. Purgatory 2. Confessing to priests 3. Office of pope or priests4. Pope being the vicar (representation of Christ, usurping the authority of God)5. Praying to Mary, saints6. Penance 7. Worshipping idols/images, placing idols images in church8. Church in the Bible is not building, but the body of believers9. Sacrament was never the real body and blood of Christ as RC church claimed (Real meaning real blood and body, bcos it didnt really turned "bloody" did it?)10. Salvation by (works (7sacraments) +faith) was never in the Bible. Real salvation is by grace through faith as seen in Bible. 11. Rosary, set repetitive prayers, hail Mary 10000 times12. Mass - putting Christ on the altar again and again13. Mary as queen of heaven 14. Mary as Ark of the new covenant. 15. Mary as the mother of heavenly Jesus thus Mary exist before Christ16. Immersion of infant for baptism17. Holy water18. Celibacy of priests (no office of priests in NT anyway, only priesthood of all believers)19. Kissing of statues20. Changing of 10 commandments. COmmandment of graven image removed by Catholic CHurch in Catholic Catechism. Splitting of another commandment into 2 commandments. 21. Catholic church changed Bible verse Gen 3:15 (And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; He shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise His heel."). 'He' and 'His' referring to Christ.
Catholics changed it to (Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her Seed; She shall bruise your head, And you shall bruise Her heel.") 'She' and 'Her' refers to Mary. 22. Catholic Church use Rev 12 to refer to Mary as 'queen of heaven', when Rev 12:6 clearly refers to Israel escaping the Great Tribulation. Mary cannot be alive to escape the Great Tribulation. 23. Catholic Church refers to Mary as 'Queen of heaven', but 'Queen of Mary' in the Bible is a demonic entity Astoreth or Ishtar, the female deity partner of Baal. 5 verses in Jeremiah as proof.24. Catholic church refers to Mary as the Mediatress, Co redemptress, helper of Christ, firstborn of all creation ..
Mary cannot be the mediatress. Jesus is the one and only Mediator between God and man. Only Jesus redeems. Only the Holy Spirit is the Helper sent by Jesus. Only Jesus is the firstborn of all creation. 25. Roman Catholicism has “saints” one can pray to in order to gain a particular blessing. For example, Saint Gianna Beretta Molla is the patron saint of fertility. Francis of Assisi is the patron saint of animals. There are multiple patron saints of healing and comfort.
Nowhere is even a hint of this taught in Scripture. Just as the Roman pantheon of gods had a god of love, a god of peace, a god of war, a god of strength, a god of wisdom, etc., so the Catholic Church has a saint who is “in charge” over each of these and many other categories. Many Roman cities had a god specific to the city, and the Catholic Church provided “patron saints” for cities as well.26. Mary is called the gate of heaven? Mary has keys to paradise?
Here are roman pagan teachers saying their man made goddess is their savior. None of these quotes have been denounced, on the contrary they are cited.
"Open to us, O Mary, the gate of Paradise, since you have its keys! " St. Ambrose
"God has entrusted the keys and treasures of Heaven to Mary." St. Thomas Aquinas
"No one can enter into Heaven except through Mary, as entering through a gate. " St. Bonaventure
"Mary is called "The Gate of Heaven" because no one can enter Heaven but through her means." St. Alphonsus Maria Liguori
Papal infallibility
Immaculate Mary
Assumption of Mary
Perpetual Virgin
Mary as Mother of God,
co mediatrix,
co redemptrix,
new ark of covenant,
Pope as vicar,
Holy Water,
papacy,
peter as first pope,
papal succession,
apostolic succession,
indulgences,
7 sacraments,
rosary
veneration of saints and statues
celibacy of priesthood
canonization of saints
limbo
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You talk big but proves nothing. Show me how and where did you get 5% and 95% from Scripture, your final authority!
@salachenkoforley7382 *According to Roman pagans, when Bible says "salvation is Not By Works". It meant "Salvation is by WOrks"?*
*What's your cereb made of?*
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You're mis-interpretating Ephesians 2:8-10
Ephesians 2:8-10
English Standard Version
So this guy is a founder of his own church and I'm suppose to believe this guy over a 2000 year old church.
You don't have to take his word for it, it's all in the Catholic doctrine and you can read it yourself.
and for most of the video this guy in the video was spreading false information
EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
Lol
@Bridgefin *R Catholic ct hurled 150+ curses on Christians. Yet you claimed R ct did not condemn anyone? Are you a L or are you a L?*
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The Catholic Church and Trent never condemned anyone
@aaronsmith5904 *Bible does not say ROman religion was that Church or Universal Church. Please prove your self claims before using that in any comments. You are just using circular arguments.*
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- be in Roman Church to be saved
As I said above there was one church in the age of the new testament writings, so all the believers were part of the one church, which catholic's believe you need to be part of to be saved. Catholics believe that any church in communion with the Church of Rome is part of the one church that Christ established. You don't even have to be part of a roman church, you can be part of a byzantine church (Greek), maronite church (Lebanese). The only important thing is that you are in union with the church of Rome.
Scripture says in 1 John 5:16-17 there are deadly (mortal) and non-deadly (venial) sins. Most, if not all the so called "Bible only" Christians never read these verses, while they can recite from memory Rom 3:23.
@Just from Catholic: And I would say that most, if not all roman catholics read that passage (or listen to the priest recite it) merely in justification to their “faith.” According to a talk I heard on this topic, this would have nothing / nothing to do with “mortal” and “venial” sins as you understand them. E.g. - sins that could very well lead to death: drug / alcohol abuse, sexual sins; sins that don’t lead to death: speaking ill of a brother or sister (gossip), for one. They don’t remove a person’s salvation, as depicted in the video and your church’s teachings; they are ALL committed by sinful men / women who, if they are truly “saved” according to Scripture, and IF they confess their sins TO GOD, will receive forgiveness. They may still have longer-term consequences that God may not remove - such as, perhaps, in the cases of sexual sins and drug / alcohol abuse - but they will not separate the person eternally from God. Another effect of ANY sin might be, the effectiveness of a true believer’s witness.
@@Ahuntrgw2013 Scripture says that the soul that sins shall die (Ezekiel 18:4). James 1:15 says full grown sin brings death. Yet you wrote that sins do not remove a person's salvation. Who is right, you or Scripture? If a person died before making confession TO GOD, will he be in heaven or hell?
It is righteousness that delivers from death according to Scripture (Prov. 10:2), yet the Reformers taught that to enter heaven you do not need to be made righteous and what you need is external righteousness of Christ imputed on you. In contrast Scripture says in Rom. 5:19 that through Christ we are made righteous.
@@justfromcatholic *R Catholics love misquoting Scriptures. Bible says "all sins lead to death". Romans 6:23. Not "only some sins lead to death".*
*You are just misquoting 1 John 5.*
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Scripture says in 1 John 5:16-17 there are deadly (mortal) and non-deadly (venial) sins.
@@justfromcatholic *It has always been Scripture Alone. Not Bible Alone. You still cannot get this into UrthickskullRcatholicBryan?*
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Most, if not all the so called "Bible only" Christians never read these verses, while they can recite from memory Rom 3:23.
@@justfromcatholic *Of course that is so. Why else we need Jesus? R Catholics are full of tales. Lolol*
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Scripture says that the soul that sins shall die (Ezekiel 18:4)
@Just from Catholic *I agree. Scriptures does not contradict itself. So 1 John 5 cannot be referring to only some sins leading to spiritual death.*
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Check your Bible and read what 1 John 5:16-17 says yourself. Scripture does not contradict each other.
@Just from Catholic *Yes i agree. You are misquoting Scriptures. The physical consequence of sins is upon yourself. Not the spiritual consequences. Jesus took all the spiritual consequences on the Cross. Romans 4.*
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ALL your sins are imputed/counted on Christ who bore them on the cross.
Scripture says you can transfer neither righteousness nor wickedness to other in Ezekiel 18:20: "the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself."
Where does Scripture say that Jesus took all SPIRITUAL CONSEQUENCES on the cross?
@@justfromcatholic *Through sin, spiritual death entered the world. Rom **6:23**. Through Christ's atonement, spiritual life entered the world.*
Rom 5:12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned-
Rom 5:18 Therefore, as through one man's offense judgment came to all men, resulting in condemnation, even so through one Man's righteous act the free gift came to all men, resulting in justification of life.
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Where does Scripture say that Jesus took all SPIRITUAL CONSEQUENCES on the cross?
If someone who is not a Christian but lives a meritorious life but has not faith in Jesus what will become of him. Will his good deeds be to no avail?
According to Protestantism, that person will end up in Hell just because.
@@georgepierson4920 I prefer Pope John Paul II explanation. The Gospel not known and therefore not rejected.
Faith manifesting in good works, grace producing merits, Scripture preserved within Tradition, God's glory in the life of the saints. This is what Catholicism emphasizes.
The following verses are Jesus own words❗️
🚨“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father, inherit the Kingdom prepared for you from the creation of the world. For I was hungry, and you fed me. I was thirsty, and you gave me a drink. I was a stranger, and you invited me into your home. I was naked, and you gave me clothing. I was sick, and you cared for me. I was in prison, and you visited me.’ “Then these righteous ones will reply, ‘Lord, when did we ever see you hungry and feed you? Or thirsty and give you something to drink? Or a stranger and show you hospitality? Or naked and give you clothing? When did we ever see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ “And the King will say, ‘I tell you the truth, when you did it to one of the least of these my brothers and sisters, you were doing it to me!’ “Then the King will turn to those on the left and say, ‘Away with you, you cursed ones, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his demons. For I was hungry, and you didn’t feed me. I was thirsty, and you didn’t give me a drink. I was a stranger, and you didn’t invite me into your home. I was naked, and you didn’t give me clothing. I was sick and in prison, and you didn’t visit me.’ “Then they will reply, ‘Lord, when did we ever see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and not help you?’ “And he will answer, ‘I tell you the truth, when you refused to help the least of these my brothers and sisters, you were refusing to help me.’ “And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous will go into eternal life.” Matthew 25:34-46
Are those not works❓
🚨“Wake up! Strengthen what little remains, for even what is left is almost dead. I find that your actions do not meet the requirements of my God.”Revelation 3:2
Is Jesus not God❓Are his words not truth itself❓Is Jesus wrong❓Did he not clearly state actions❓
Judas is a prime example that being saved by grace through faith alone is in fact a false gospel preached by either ignorance or intentionally to lead others astray❗️
Judas had God’s grace when he was picked as an Apostle and through his faith was given the power to heal the sick and cast out demons by Jesus himself BUT it was his one action/deed that caused him to be condemned by Jesus himself❗️Have you deemed yourself greater than Judas❓Have you healed the sick❓Have you cast out demons❓
🚨“You don’t have enough faith,” Jesus told them. “I tell you the truth, if you had faith even as small as a mustard seed, you could say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it would move. Nothing would be impossible.” Matthew 17:20
You don’t have enough faith to move mountains but you claim to have enough faith to guarantee your salvation before God can render his judgement⁉️
🚨“Someone asked him, “Lord, will only a few be saved?” He replied, “Work hard to enter the narrow door to God’s Kingdom, for many will try to enter but will fail.” Luke 13:23-24
What happen to that easy way in by grace through faith alone⁉️
🚨“Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’ But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.” Matthew 7:21-23
Doesn’t someone break God’s laws by their actions❓
People need to properly discern scripture in order to see the false teachings these wolves preach‼️
Anyone who preaches an easy way to God’s kingdom is either ignorant of scripture or is intentionally misleading you‼️
The Greek roots of the term “Catholic” mean “according to (kata-) the whole (holos),” or more colloquially, “universal.” At the beginning of the second century, we find in the letters of Ignatius the first surviving use of the term “Catholic” in reference to the Church. At that time, or shortly thereafter, it was used to refer to a single, visible communion, separate from others.
The term “Catholic” is in the Apostles’, Nicene, and Athanasian creeds, and many Protestants, claiming the term for themselves, give it a meaning that is unsupported historically, ignoring the term’s use at the time the creeds were written.
Early Church historian J. N. D. Kelly, a Protestant, writes: “As regards ‘Catholic,’ its original meaning was ‘universal’ or ‘general.’ . . . in the latter half of the second century at latest, we find it conveying the suggestion that the Catholic is the true Church as distinct from heretical congregations (cf., e.g., Muratorian Canon). . . . What these early Fathers were envisaging was almost always the empirical, visible society; they had little or no inkling of the distinction which was later to become important between a visible and an invisible Church” (Early Christian Doctrines, 190-1).
Thus people who recite the creeds mentally inserting another meaning for “Catholic” are reinterpreting them according to a modern preference, much as a liberal biblical scholar does with Scripture texts offensive to contemporary sensibilities.
Included in the quotes below are extracts from the first creeds to use the term “Catholic”; so that the term can be seen in its historical context, which is supplied by the other quotations. It is from this broader context that the meaning of the term in the creeds is established, not by one’s own notion of what the term once meant or of what it ought to mean.
Ignatius of Antioch
“Let no one do anything of concern to the Church without the bishop. Let that be considered a valid Eucharist which is celebrated by the bishop or by one whom he ordains [i.e., a presbyter]. Wherever the bishop appears, let the people be there; just as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church” (Letter to the Smyrneans 8:2 [A.D. 110]).
The Martyrdom of Polycarp
“And of the elect, he was one indeed, the wonderful martyr Polycarp, who in our days was an apostolic and prophetic teacher, bishop of the Catholic Church in Smyrna. For every word which came forth from his mouth was fulfilled and will be fulfilled” (Martyrdom of Polycarp 16:2 [A.D. 155]).
The Muratorian Canon
“Besides these [letters of Paul] there is one to Philemon, and one to Titus, and two to Timothy, in affection and love, but nevertheless regarded as holy in the Catholic Church, in the ordering of churchly discipline. There is also one [letter] to the Laodiceans and another to the Alexandrians, forged under the name of Paul, in regard to the heresy of Marcion, and there are several others which cannot be received by the Church, for it is not suitable that gall be mixed with honey. The epistle of Jude, indeed, and the two ascribed to John are received by the Catholic Church (Muratorian fragment [A.D. 177]).
Tertullian
“Where was [the heretic] Marcion, that shipmaster of Pontus, the zealous student of Stoicism? Where was Valentinus, the disciple of Platonism? For it is evident that those men lived not so long ago-in the reign of Antonius for the most part-and that they at first were believers in the doctrine of the Catholic Church, in the church of Rome under the episcopate of the blessed Eleutherius, until on account of their ever restless curiosity, with which they even infected the brethren, they were more than once expelled” (Demurrer Against the Heretics 30 [A.D. 200]).
Cyprian of Carthage
“You ought to know, then, that the bishop is in the Church and the Church in the bishops; and if someone is not with the bishop, he is not in the Church. They vainly flatter themselves who creep up, not having peace with the priest of God, believing that they are secretly in communion with certain individuals. For the Church, which is one and catholic, is not split or divided, but is indeed united and joined by the cement of priests who adhere to one another” (Letters 66[67]:8 [A.D. 253]).
Council of Nicaea I
“But those who say: ‘There was [a time] when he [the Son] was not,’ and ‘before he was born, he was not,’ and ‘because he was made from non-existing matter, he is either of another substance or essence,’ and those who call ‘God the Son of God changeable and mutable,’ these the Catholic Church anathematizes” (Appendix to the Creed of Nicaea [A.D. 325]).
“Concerning those who call themselves Cathari [Novatians], that is, ‘the Clean,’ if at any time they come to the Catholic Church, it has been decided by the holy and great council that, provided they receive the imposition of hands, they remain among the clergy. However, because they are accepting and following the doctrines of the catholic and apostolic Church, it is fitting that they acknowledge this in writing before all; that is, both that they communicate with the twice married and with those who have lapsed during a persecution” (Canon 8).
Cyril of Jerusalem
“[The Church] is called catholic, then, because it extends over the whole world, from end to end of the earth, and because it teaches universally and infallibly each and every doctrine which must come to the knowledge of men, concerning things visible and invisible, heavenly and earthly, and because it brings every race of men into subjection to godliness, governors and governed, learned and unlearned, and because it universally treats and heals every class of sins, those committed with the soul and those with the body, and it possesses within itself every conceivable form of virtue, in deeds and in words and in the spiritual gifts of every description” (Catechetical Lectures 18:23 [A.D. 350]).
“And if you ever are visiting in cities, do not inquire simply where the house of the Lord is-for the others, sects of the impious, attempt to call their dens ‘houses of the Lord’-nor ask merely where the Church is, but where is the Catholic Church. For this is the name peculiar to this holy Church, the mother of us all, which is the spouse of our Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God” (ibid., 18:26).
The Apostles’ Creed
“I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and the life everlasting. Amen” (Apostles’ Creed [A.D. 360 version, the first to include the term “Catholic”]).
Council of Constantinople I
“I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father, who together with the Father and the Son is worshiped and glorified, who spoke through the prophets; in one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church” (Nicene Creed [A.D. 381]).
“Those who embrace orthodoxy and join the number of those who are being saved from the heretics, we receive in the following regular and customary manner: Arians, Macedonians, Sabbatians, Novatians, those who call themselves Cathars and Aristeri, Quartodecimians or Tetradites, Apollinarians- these we receive when they hand in statements and anathematize every heresy which is not of the same mind as the holy, catholic, and apostolic Church of God” (Canon 7).
Augustine
“We must hold to the Christian religion and to communication in her Church, which is catholic and which is called catholic not only by her own members but even by all her enemies. For when heretics or the adherents of schisms talk about her, not among themselves but with strangers, willy-nilly they call her nothing else but Catholic. For they will not be understood unless they distinguish her by this name which the whole world employs in her regard” (The True Religion 7:12 [A.D. 390]).
“We believe in the holy Church, that is, the Catholic Church; for heretics and schismatics call their own congregations churches. But heretics violate the faith itself by a false opinion about God; schismatics, however, withdraw from fraternal love by hostile separations, although they believe the same things we do. Consequently, neither heretics nor schismatics belong to the Catholic Church; not heretics, because the Church loves God, and not schismatics, because the Church loves neighbor” (Faith and Creed 10:21 [A.D. 393]).
“If you should find someone who does not yet believe in the gospel, what would you [Mani] answer him when he says, ‘I do not believe’? Indeed, I would not believe in the gospel myself if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so” (ibid., 5:6).
“[T]here are many other things which most properly can keep me in her [the Catholic Church’s] bosom. The unanimity of peoples and nations keeps me here. Her authority, inaugurated in miracles, nourished by hope, augmented by love, and confirmed by her age, keeps me here. The succession of priests, from the very see of the apostle Peter, to whom the Lord, after his resurrection, gave the charge of feeding his sheep [John 21:15-17], up to the present episcopate, keeps me here. And last, the very name Catholic, which, not without reason, belongs to this Church alone, in the face of so many heretics, so much so that, although all heretics want to be called ‘Catholic,’ when a stranger inquires where the Catholic Church meets, none of the heretics would dare to point out his own basilica or house” (Against the Letter of Mani Called “The Foundation” 4:5 [A.D. 397]).
Vincent of Lerins
“I have often then inquired earnestly and attentively of very many men eminent for sanctity and learning, how and by what sure and so to speak universal rule I may be able to distinguish the truth of Catholic faith from the falsehood of heretical depravity; and I have always, and in almost every instance, received an answer to this effect: that whether I or anyone else should wish to detect the frauds and avoid the snares of heretics as they arise, and to continue sound and complete in the Catholic faith, we must, the Lord helping, fortify our own belief in two ways: first, by the authority of the divine law [Scripture], and then by the tradition of the Catholic Church. But here some one perhaps will ask, ‘Since the canon of Scripture is complete, and sufficient of itself for everything, and more than sufficient, what need is there to join with it the authority of the Church’s interpretation?’ For this reason: Because, owing to the depth of holy Scripture, all do not accept it in one and the same sense, but one understands its words in one way, another in another, so that it seems to be capable of as many interpretations as there are men. . . . Therefore, it is very necessary, on account of so great intricacies of such various errors, that the rule for the right understanding of the prophets and apostles should be framed in accordance with the standard of ecclesiastical and catholic interpretation” (The Notebooks 2:1-2 [A.D. 434]).
Council of Chalcedon
“Since in certain provinces readers and cantors have been allowed to marry, this sacred synod decrees that none of them is permitted to marry a wife of heterodox views. If those thus married have already had children, and if they have already had the children baptized among heretics, they are to bring them into the communion of the Catholic Church” (Canon 14 [A.D. 451]).
Yes they are works; works that are evidenced by our faith. Works must accompany faith. For if there are no works, there is no faith. That does not mean works are a requirement for salvation. Jesus’s sacrifice and shed blood IS the requirement. It’s simply if someone doesn’t do works, they aren’t saved. If they utter a prayer and continue to live an evil life, they aren’t saved. If someone believes in Christ with all his or her heart, they ARE saved. Do they serve? Yes! Are they loving? Yes!! Do they put others’ first? Yes!!! Will God consider all of that for entrance to Heaven? No! He will know the heart and know those who depend solely on what He did on the cross. Thank you, Jesus.
@@edensessentialsnaturalwell8564 Jesus never once throughout the Bible preached that you are:
1. Saved by Grace alone
2. Save by Faith alone
3. Save by Grace through Faith alone
4. Saved by your Deeds alone
5. Once Saved, Always Saved
6. Salvation is Guaranteed
Salvation is a life long process which is never guaranteed, nor by grace, by faith or by deeds alone. Jesus’ own words confirm this and anyone who preaches scripture that contradicts Jesus’ own words is misinterpreting it or intentionally straying you away from the true faith.
Is it hard to enter God’s Kingdom? Yes!
“This amazed them. But Jesus said again, “Dear children, it is very hard to enter the Kingdom of God.” Mark 10:24
Conditions by which salvation can be achieved directly from Jesus.
1. “Jesus told him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one can come to the Father except through me.” John 14:6
2. “Jesus replied, “I assure you, no one can enter the Kingdom of God without being born of water and the Spirit. Humans can reproduce only human life, but the Holy Spirit gives birth to spiritual life. So don’t be surprised when I say, ‘You must be born again.” John 3:5-7
3. “Jesus called a little child to him and put the child among them. Then he said, “I tell you the truth, unless you turn from your sins and become like little children, you will never get into the Kingdom of Heaven.” Matthew 18:2-3
4. “No, and I tell you again that unless you repent, you will perish, too.” Luke 13:
5. “Everyone who acknowledges me publicly here on earth, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. But everyone who denies me here on earth, I will also deny before my Father in heaven.”Matthew 10:32-33
6. “So I tell you, every sin and blasphemy can be forgiven-except blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, which will never be forgiven.” Matthew 12:31
7. “But I warn you-unless your righteousness is better than the righteousness of the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees, you will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven!” Matthew 5:20
8. “But Jesus told him, “Anyone who puts a hand to the plow and then looks back is not fit for the Kingdom of God.” Luke 9:62
9. “Then Jesus said to his disciples, “I tell you the truth, it is very hard for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. I’ll say it again-it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the Kingdom of God!” Matthew 19:23-24
10. “So every tree that does not produce good fruit is chopped down and thrown into the fire. Yes, just as you can identify a tree by its fruit, so you can identify people by their actions.” Matthew 7:19-20
11. “But I say, if you are even angry with someone, you are subject to judgment! If you call someone an idiot, you are in danger of being brought before the court. And if you curse someone, you are in danger of the fires of hell.”Matthew 5:22
12. “If you forgive those who sin against you, your heavenly Father will forgive you. But if you refuse to forgive others, your Father will not forgive your sins.” Matthew 6:14-15
13. “If you love your father or mother more than you love me, you are not worthy of being mine; or if you love your son or daughter more than me, you are not worthy of being mine. If you refuse to take up your cross and follow me, you are not worthy of being mine. If you cling to your life, you will lose it; but if you give up your life for me, you will find it.” Matthew 10:37-39
14. “And I tell you this, you must give an account on judgment day for every idle word you speak. The words you say will either acquit you or condemn you.” Matthew 12:36-37
15. “But if you cause one of these little ones who trusts in me to fall into sin, it would be better for you to have a large millstone tied around your neck and be drowned in the depths of the sea.” Matthew 18:6
16. “So Jesus said again, “I tell you the truth, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you cannot have eternal life within you. But anyone who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise that person at the last day.” John 6:53-54
Will many fail to enter God’s Kingdom? Yes! Even those who claimed to be Christians & followers of Jesus will fail because they refused to obey his laws & conditions by which salvation would be obtained!
“Someone asked him, “Lord, will only a few be saved?” He replied, “Work hard to enter the narrow door to God’s Kingdom, for many will try to enter but will fail.” Luke 13:23-24
“You can enter God’s Kingdom only through the narrow gate. The highway to hell is broad, and its gate is wide for the many who choose that way. But the gateway to life is very narrow and the road is difficult, and only a few ever find it.” Matthew 7:13-14
“Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’ But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.” Matthew 7:21-23
“Just as the weeds are sorted out and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the world. The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will remove from his Kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. And the angels will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Then the righteous will shine like the sun in their Father’s Kingdom. Anyone with ears to hear should listen and understand!” Matthew 13:40-43
How do we determine if scripture is being misinterpreted? By simply going back to what Jesus said and letting his words show us the truth. Anyone who continues to preach scripture that contradicts his words should be avoided and exposed as wolfs.
“Jesus said to the people who believed in him, “You are truly my disciples if you remain faithful to my teachings. And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” John 8:31-32
Don’t forget, the Devil was an angel and even quoted scripture when he tempted Jesus but it was Jesus’ full understanding of scripture that led him to quote scripture back to the devil in order to reveal God’s truth. This is why scripture (God’s Words) is also important on our journey.
“But Jesus told him, “No! The Scriptures say, ‘People do not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.” Matthew 4:4
“Get out of here, Satan,” Jesus told him. “For the Scriptures say, ‘You must worship the Lord your God and serve only him.” Matthew 4:10
“Beware of false prophets who come disguised as harmless sheep but are really vicious wolves.” Matthew 7:15
Did people misinterpret scripture in the past? Yes! Even Jesus had to correct them.
“Jesus replied, “Your mistake is that you don’t know the Scriptures, and you don’t know the power of God.” Matthew 22:29
“Then he added, “Now go and learn the meaning of this Scripture: ‘I want you to show mercy, not offer sacrifices.’ For I have come to call not those who think they are righteous, but those who know they are sinners.” Matthew 9:13
Our sin is that we slowly begin to believe the words of others and even the apostles own words over Jesus as they’re distorted to justify a different path to salvation. We stubbornly cling to their words instead of his.
“The world’s sin is that it refuses to believe in me.” John 16:9
@@Antonio.R.O.C. like I said: only through the blood of Christ are we saved. Hallelujah.
I thought learned people are objective and truthful free from prejudices until I listened to this video.
Catholics not only believe in Jesus, but believe that what He said is true. When the young man in Mark 10:16 asks "What shall I do that I may inherit eternal life?" Jesus tells him, "Thou knowest the commandments." And in Matthew 7:21, He says, "Not everyone who saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of Heaven, but he that doeth the will of my Father ..." Catholics don't believe they can earn or deserve Heaven, but we do believe we have to do what Jesus said we have to do, in order to avail ourselves of His gift of salvation.
What is thy Fathers will ? It’s to believe and receive his son . The one he sent , it’s not works . Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world . Galatians 2:16 or Philippians 3:9. No one will EVER Be made right by works . Self righteousness ! A redeemed soul is completely saved because of the righteousness that is in Christ Jesus. Plus nothing . Man I’m so glad after 21 years In Catholic Church , I know the truth . Never again the False teachings of a made up religion
Saved by faith alone in Christ alone. Ephesians 2:8-8
Ephesians 2 doesn’t say “alone”
Luther put the word alone there
Ephesians doesn’t say alone.
@@paulcapaccio9905Yep.
I should be an atheist. All the pomp and circumstance, complicates the simplicity.
Jesus declared grace to the world before the word was uttered by apostles. All that's required by non believers, is to believe, repent, confess, and be baptized on judgment day. Christianity, has rancor, doctrines, denominations, complications, scriptural controversy, and traditions, most of men.
None of that hassle for the rest, since unto men, a host of all manner of sin, will be forgiven.
Nonsense.
@Rocky Stonecypher It's not my fault you think the savior, nonsense.
Mt. 12:31
Mk. 3:28
Lk. 12:10
He even declared what would NOT be forgiven.
The apostles are all over it too. Only one off top of head.
2Cor. 2:10?
@@eltonron1558 Do you know the unpardonable sun?
@Rocky Stonecypher The unpardonable sun, is the one with no system of planets. The unpardonable sin, is blasphemy to the holy spirit. Tell me something scriptural sound, and if I say it's of the devil, I have blasphemed the holy spirit.
@@eltonron1558 what must one do to be saved?
I really wish that guy who started quoting James 2 had read the whole chapter, and the rest of the Bible as well. Jesus and His apostles said over and over and over again that what we DO really does matter, regarding how we will be judged. James makes it clear that belief alone does not save us, and that even after one is “born again”, one can indeed fall from grace. I’m not sure how anyone can read the entire New Testament and come away with the conclusion that all one has to do is profess belief in Jesus and nothing else one does for the rest of his life has any impact on his eternal destination. This is just bonkers, and contradicts so many teachings of Jesus and the apostles to the contrary. For example, James 2:24 “You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.” Are we saved by grace? Yes, absolutely. Nothing that we do can “earn” the amazing blessing of eternal life with God. But Jesus was clear on many occasions that people will be judged by what kind of life they live, how they treat others, and by clinging to Him through faith. Christianity isn’t the Bible. Christianity existed before the Bible was compiled by. The. Church. The Church existed before the Bible did. Think about that. Sola Fide - directly contradicted so many times by Jesus and the apostles. Sola Scriptura - contradicted by the Scriptura itself, which never itself asserts Sola Scriptura and in fact in many places talks about the importance of oral teachings and traditions, which were later compiled into what is today known as the Bible. When I see the title “difference between Biblical Christianity and Catholic Religion” what I see is “difference between individual interpretations of the Bible, and the teachings of the Church that Jesus built upon the Rock”.
@Just from Catholic *You are just misquoting Scriptures. Psalms 106 refers to Old Covenant. Not New Covenant which teaches Salvation is Not by Works.*
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Either you pretend to be blind or are blinded by the teaching of the Reformers. Psalms 106:31 clearly says that what was counted for righteousness to Phinehas was NOT faith.
These people have very limited knowledge of Catholicism or Judaism. They also do not understand how to read sacred scripture therefore they totally miss the connection of the two.
You’ve succinctly explained the core problem with “Biblical Christianity”. It has as its foundation only individual interpretation of a handful of Bible verses that fit their particular narrative. It rejects the rest of the verses. It rejects history. It rejects traditional belief and practice. And it rejects the promises of Jesus regarding the staying power of His church. And that is why there are more than 30,000 sects of “Biblical Christianity”. Roll the dice, I guess…. Lol
Alternatively, trust Jesus. Trust Him when He built His church and promised that the gates of Hell would never prevail against it. Trust Him when He promised that the Holy Spirit would remain with His church until the end of the age. That’s what “faith” is. It’s a hope that Jesus was telling the truth. But not a hope like “I hope that it will be sunny tomorrow”… no, it’s a hope that Jesus can be trusted. That’s the hope of the “Catholic Religion”. It’s a hope that “Biblical Christianity” has rejected.
*YEs indeed. R Catholic doctrines come from fairy tales. Lol*
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How about the one where one dies and goes to purgatory then can get absolved by the church? That takes away the scripture that says, after one life there is one death, and after death, one judgement!.. 🤔 they need to look at that! 🕵
Along with what you mentioned, the Catholic church was offering "the sale of indulgences", where if you paid enough money (according to the degree of your earthly sins) to the priest, he would lessen your stay in purgatory and speed you along to heaven sooner. I guess if you were broke you spent an indefinite time behind your rich neighbor. As if the Catholic church had an actual say in when or if you went to heaven......and they always made the "final" decision.
Protestants removed the books on purgatory. Like an Italian crime lord removing parts of the 10 commandments to suit his goals.
@@nosuchthing8 *Yes only low wits r ctists say so. Old Testament Jews does not teach praying to the dead. 2 Macc merely describes errant Jews practising m m doctrines. Not truth..*
*R Ctists added 7 books.*
@@jediv9910 it's a Christian Bible, not a Jewish Bible. That argument is bizarre.
Luther hated purgatory because of the corruption so created another corruption, the protestant Bible with millenia old books removed.
@@nosuchthing8 *Bible says Scriptures is of Jewish origin. Romans 3:1-2. Clearly you are not a believer of God and His Words.*
By relying on the Bible alone one by default relies on catholic apostolic tradition which produced and preserved the bible. “Bible alone, not the traditions of men” is then the epitome of cognitive dissonance. How can one trust scriptures produced by apostates? If Catholicism is wrong then all of Christianity is suspect.
It is by WORKS and NOT BY FAITH ALONE that we are JUSTIFIED, for even if one has ALL FAITH, but does not LOVE, IT IS USELESS!
This Protestant Pastor whites out the Holy Scripture verses he doesn't like! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink
If someone is killed instantly and has the baptism of desire, when did they love? According to Rome you are enemies of God before baptism
@Wgaither1 According to Holy Scripture, "Baptism now saves you ". ( 1 Peter 3:21). Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink
Oops - maybe my original comments were removed because there were links to good Catholic Apologists? Been on both sides of this religious coin. Common ground - we all love Jesus! Born a Cradle Catholic but growing up knew nothing about my faith until someone knocked on my door and told me Catholics were going to hell. I swallowed it hook, line and sinker - didn't want to go to hell. Attended a Church of Christ Preaching School for 2 years, I was converted to the faith alone side of the coin and Sola Scriptura. In fact, the Church of Christ did not have instruments because it stated the New Testament said (Ephesians 5) to make melody in your heart to the Lord using your windpipe organ not a foot-pedal organ. Oh, I guess they aren't saved either. Long story short - I came back to my Catholic roots, studied and studied some more, and will never know all the mysteries of God! I appreciate my spiritual journey, and all the wonderful Christians I met on the way. They all contributed knowledge either by words or deeds. As a Catholic, we are not out to condemn our brothers and sisters of different denominations or even different faiths - our prayer is that all will come to know the true God, Jesus, God's beloved son and the Holy Spirit who dwells in the hearts of God's people.
So, does the Father rewards us when we do good works like give to the poor? Jesus said in Matthew 6: 1 “Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. 2 “So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 3 But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you." Practicing your faith...I'm a practicing Catholic!
James chapter 2, the writer turns the table using a different teaching technique and the key to faith and works is in his first sentence: "The more we love our Father in Heaven, the more we will serve our Father in heaven. 14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? 17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. 18 Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? 22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? 23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. 24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. 25Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way? 26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
By faith, Abraham offered his son...faith and works...righteousness. Rahab believed in God, but if she didn't hide the messengers (works), she would have died. In fact, if Rahab had not put the cord/ribbon in the window, she would have died. In fact, if all her family did not enter her house, they would have died. At the time of the Exodus if the Hebrews did not smear blood of the lamb on their doorposts - they would have died. Real faith requires the faithful to do something.
Welcome back sis. Thank God for Jesus leaving the remaining 99 sheep's just to look for you
@Just from Catholic *Bible teaches believers are already saved and this salvation continues till Jesus returns; when believers shall receive final redemption/salvation.*
Rom 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is *justified by faith* apart
from the deeds of the law.
Rom 5:1 Therefore, having been *justified by faith* , we have peace with
God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
Act 26:18 to open their eyes, in order to turn them from darkness to
light, and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive
forgiveness of sins and an inheritance among those who are *sanctified by
faith* in Me.'
Rom 8:30 Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He
called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also
glorified.
Heb 10:10 By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of
the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
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not only Rom. 10:9-10. Jesus and Paul di not contradict each other. NT was written in Greek, not in English. The tenses of the verbs in Rom. 10:9-10 do not indicate a completed (and assured) salvation by faith alone - if they do the tense should be Greek perfect tense
That grave error you wrote came from double imputation concept taught by the Reformers. In double imputation ALL your sins (past, present and future) are imputed/counted on Christ who bore them on the cross. If this the case then you have "assurance of salvation". The question is double imputation scriptural?
Banner at the start of this video: “Justification by faith alone in Christ Alone”
James 2:24” You see that a man is justified by works and NOT BY FAITH ALONE”
You were saying something about “Biblical Christianity”?
YOU CAN SEE FAITH THROUGH, MISSIONARIES OF CHARITY, MOTHER THERESA, NO MASKS, NO GLOVES, NO VACCINATION, BUT MOTHER THERESA, TOUCH AND CLEAN THE LEPERS, FEED THEM AND MAKE THEM HAPPY, TILL THEY DIE IN DIGNITY. AMEN.
"Biblical" Christianity
Founder: Martin Luther
Founded: 16th century AD
Roman Catholic "religion"
Founder: Jesus Christ
Founded: 1st century AD
Biblical Christianity was restored by Martin Luther.
But Roman Catholicism has its roots in Rome and that's why it's known as "Roman....". It has nothing to do with real Biblical Christianity.
Biblical Christianity was restored by Martin Luther.
But Roman Catholicism has its roots in Rome and that's why it's known as "Roman....". It has nothing to do with real Biblical Christianity.
@@KM-leonswho gave you your Bible?
@@stevenirizarry9427 Don't make foolish arguements like Muslims by imagining Catholicism was there from the time of the apostles.
Read some history and learn that Catholicism was founded by Constantine the Roman emperor. Can't you see the link between the prefix "Roman" and the Roman Empire and also the pagan Roman practices in the Roman Catholic Church?
@@KM-leons can you answer the question please sir 🙏
Scripture says God saves us through faith (Eph. 2:8) and through sanctification (2 Thess. @). In other words Scripture does not teach salvation through faith alone and that is why the Catholic Church rejects such belief!
thief on the cross
@@joebarasa4219 And Romans 10:9-10, as well?
@@joebarasa4219 he died shortly after he had faith in Christ or he did not undergo sanctification. Faith is counted as righteousness (Rom. 4:3) and he is made righteous by his faith. Scripture says we lose righteousness through sinning in Ezekiel 33:12: "the righteous shall not be able to live by his righteousness when he sins." The thief on the cross died before he committed any sin.
@@Ahuntrgw2013 You should read Mat. 7:21 as well, not only Rom. 10:9-10. Jesus and Paul di not contradict each other. NT was written in Greek, not in English. The tenses of the verbs in Rom. 10:9-10 do not indicate a completed (and assured) salvation by faith alone - if they do the tense should be Greek perfect tense.
@@justfromcatholic no it is by faith alone plus nothing minus nothing,,,Abraham believed and it was accounted to him righteousness
@salachenkoforley7382 *It is clear RCs refused to read the Bible. I even stated the verse. James 1:1.*
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Where exactly in the book of James where it says "James was referring to the 12 tribes of Israel?
@Just from Catholic *There you go. You are demonstrating misquoting Scriptures. This is referring to Old Covenant. New Covenant says otherwise. As a Christian under New Covenant i am already made righteous by Christ. I am already created in the true holiness and righteousness of Christ. Eph 4. Jesus bore all sins on the Cross. Jesus had already wiped away all requirements that is against us.*
Col 2:14 having wiped out the handwriting of requirements that was against us, which was contrary to us. And He has taken it out of the way, having nailed it to the cross.
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Ezekiel 33:12-16 says:
12 “And you, son of man, say to your people, The righteousness of the righteous shall not deliver him when he transgresses, and as for the wickedness of the wicked, he shall not fall by it when he turns from his wickedness, and the righteous shall not be able to live by his righteousness[a] when he sins. 13 Though I say to the righteous that he shall surely live, yet if he trusts in his righteousness and does injustice, none of his righteous deeds shall be remembered, but in his injustice that he has done he shall die. 14 Again, though I say to the wicked, ‘You shall surely die,’ yet if he turns from his sin and does what is just and right, 15 if the wicked restores the pledge, gives back what he has taken by robbery, and walks in the statutes of life, not doing injustice, he shall surely live; he shall not die. 16 None of the sins that he has committed shall be remembered against him. He has done what is just and right; he shall surely live.
@aaronsmith5904 *Bible does not teach "devoting Mary to be saved" though. So where did Roman pagan religion get all your ns?*
*Bible teaches biblical Mary. Not Roman pagan Mary queen of heaven forever virgin immaculate conception ns.*
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- devote to Roman Mary to be saved
In the first century, Mary was honoured as the mother of Jesus, not in an idolatrous way, but she was a faithful disciple that supported the apostles. She even was adopted by the apostle John by command of Jesus.
When you say "Roman Mary", If you are talking about all the doctrines we have about Mary, what is not defined as doctrine or dogma, you don't have to believe yet. The Holy Spirit will lead the church to all truth. so some things will become clear later on. Only when a doctrine is defined by the magisterium do you have to submit. For example, in the book of acts, Mary hadn't even died yet, so why would christians be obligated to believe she was assumed into heaven.
If you are talking about being devoted to Mary, the Apostle John was as he took her as his mother at Jesus' command
"After that, he saith to the disciple: Behold thy mother. And from that hour, the disciple took her to his own." John 19:27
We honor Mary out of respect to Jesus, you don't ignore someone's Mum if your friend invites you over to their place. You don't necessarily have to have a strong devotion to Mary to be saved.
Would love t hear a protestant interpretation of Luke 12: 41-48 .
So when God removed His Spirit from Solomon...
Who compiled the bible? The catholic church. As an aside which bible are you using? The complete bible or the one with books removed because they support the catholic positions on many things including prayers for the dead?
@Just from Catholic *I agree once again. You are misquoting Scriptures without reading the context. Book of Hebrews addresses Jewish Christians on the verge of returning to Judaism. Author of Hebrews warned them of rejecting the Messiah - there is no longer a remission of sin.*
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Read Heb. 10:26-27 on what happen to those who sin deliberately after receiving the knowledge of truth .
Are you saying that what is written in the epistle of Hebrews is applicable only to the Jews, NOT applicable to you? If this is the case, then he the epistle to Romans should be only applicable to those Christians who lived in Rome two thousand years ago.
@@justfromcatholic *Scriptures is only applicable based on context. Book of Hebrews addresses Jews who were wavering between Christianity and Judaism. It is not applicable to Gentile Christians who are saved Not By WOrks.*
*Romans 4 addresses GEntile Christians. Even 2000 years later it is still applicable. According to R Catholics they are not.*
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Are you saying that what is written in the epistle of Hebrews is applicable only to the Jews, NOT applicable to you? If this is the case, then he the epistle to Romans should be only applicable to those Christians who lived in Rome two thousand years ago.
If Protestantism is true then why didn’t Jesus start His Church that way?
Their reliance on the Catholic perversion of scripture defeats their whole argument that justification by faith alone. They quote the Catholic version which teaches that faith in Christ for salvation is transitory and not eternal. They quote Eph. 2:8,9 Catholic version which says, "For by faith you have been saved by grace..." teaching that salvation is a past tense transaction in need of continual renewal.
Yet the Bible says, "For by faith are ye saved through grace.." Eph 2:8,9. Notice that it says, "For by faith ARE ye saved..." not a past tense, transitory act, but a complete, eternal and never ending salvation. Words do have meaning and must be unchanged when it comes to our eternal salvation.
Who says "ye" in this day and age? Also, the Catholic Church did not pervert the scriptures. I, however, can go on and on about Protestants lying.
@@georgepierson4920 To say that Catholics did not pervert scripture displays massive ignorance about church history, Bible doctrine and the centuries of Christians martyred for not following Catholic idol worship.
@@ronrayguns Lying is a sin and you Protestants certainly have no problem lying.
@@georgepierson4920 *Yes agree ... lying is a sin. Why do you keep lying?*
@@georgepierson4920 *R Catholicism has nothing to do with God and His Words. R Catholic Church contradicts Scriptures in every possible ways!*
1. Catholics say Mary was sinless. But BIBLE says Mary offered a sinner's offering. She was a sinner. Bible says Mary needed a Saviour. Lk 2:23-24, Lev 12:6-8, Rom 3:10.
2. Catholics say clergies must be celibate. Yet BIBLE says Peter (supposed R Church first leader) had mother in law. Bible says celibacy is not a qualification for clergies. Mat 8:14-15, Mar 1:30-31, Luk 4:38-39.
3. Catholics say Mary was forever virgin. Yet BIBLE says Jesus had brothers and sisters. Mary was not perpetually virgin. Mk 6:3, Mat 13:55, Mat 27:56, Mar 6:3, Mar 15:40, Mar 15:47.
4. Catholics say confess to R priests in a box. BIBLE says nothing about confessing to priests in a box. Bible says confess to GOD only. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6, Romans 10:9-10.
5. Catholics say drink of the physical blood of Jesus. Yet OT and NT both say do not drink blood. Acts 15, Lev 7:26.
6. Catholics say pray to passed on Mary and "saints". Yet BIBLE says do not contact the dead. NT Church did not record a single case of NT believers asking passed on saints to pray for them. Deut 18:11, Isaiah 8:19.
7. Catholics make and bow down to statues. BIBLE says do not bow down to graven images (statues). Deut 4, Exo 20:4-5.
8. Catholics sprinkles “holy water”. But NT Church of the Bible mentioned nothing about “holy water”. There was no record of any Apostles sprinkling “holy water” on believers. Catholics claimed “holy water” came from OT. Yet Num 5:17 says “holy water” was water used to test adulterous women in OT temple. Hardly the same. Those were for Old Covenant Jews. Not New Testament Christians.
9. Catholics say Peter was pope - bishop of all bishops. Yet BIBLE says Peter was just a leader of the Jerusalem Church. Bible says nothing of the office of bishop of bishops. Gal 2:9, Mat 16:18.
10. Catholics say there is a seat of Peter. Yet BIBLE says nothing about it. Jesus said “not to lord over others”.
11. Catholics has clergy priesthood. Bible says clergy priesthood was done away with in New Testament. There is no clergy priesthood in NT. Heb 7:27, 9:12, 10:10.
12. Catholics preaches Works Salvation (faith + good works + partake R sacraments + submit to R pontiff + be in R Church + devote to Mary = to be saved). Yet Bible says “believe in Jesus to be saved”. Bible says Works Salvation is cursed. Gal 1:8-9. Acts 16:30-31, John 3:16, Romans 10:9-10.
13. Catholics says they must do Penance to atone for their sins. Yet Bible says repent, confess and sins will be forgiven. Catholic Bible changes the word “repentance” in NT into “penance”. Original Greek NT does not use or mean the word penance. Penance = work to atone for sins. Repentance = change of heart. 1 John 1:9, Mat 6.
14. Catholics say Mary went straight to heaven without dying. Yet Bible says nothing about it.
15. Catholics say Islam and Christianity have the same GOD. Yet Islam doesn't believe in death and resurrection of Jesus and Trinity.
We hear nothing here about the false Replacement Theology of the Catholics and the Seventh Days' Adventists, the Land Promises to the Jewish/Hebrew people of Israel, the Covenant of Abraham to Israel, the difference between Gentiles and Jews/Hebrews....
@steffski1946 *A few Ls in one paragraph. 1. Roman religion was not any Universal Church or Church CHrist founded. Prove this self claim please. 2. Scriptures did not come from Roman religion; though it did compile Scriptures. You would not call a compiler the author or origins of a book.*
⭐Was Bible a Roman Catholic Book? ⭐
The answer is No.
Scriptures was written by Jewish Prophets and Jewish Christian APostles. Not Roman Catholics. By ad100s, all Scriptures of modern day Bibles were already in all churches. Jesus and APostles already called Scriptures "Scriptures" in their days. Believers did not have to wait 300 years for Scriptures to be "made inspired" or "called Scriptures" by Roman religion.
⭐Did Roman Church come up with a Universal Canon?⭐
The answer is No.
Roman religion merely compiled what was already there. Council of Rome was merely a local council. Council of Rome merely compiled it's own local canon. Not a Universal Canon. Roman religion’s NT canon was only one of many local canons in those days. Roman Church did not fix any Universal Canon. That requires an Ecumenical Council with bishops of all churches. Nothing of such happened.
⭐Were there other canons after Council of Rome in ad382? ⭐
The answer is yes.
Council of Rome claimed to have a Universal Canon by ad382. If Roman religion and Roman pope was all that powerful having authority over all churches, no other churches would need to come up with a canon; like Hippo (397) and Carthage (419). There were still other canons in ad692 and 1442. If a Universal Canon was really fixed in ad382 like what Roman Catholics claimed, why were there still other canons after ad382? Why are there still other canons till this day - 66, 73, 81 books canons?*
⭐Does Christian Bible come from Roman Catholic Bible?⭐
The answer is No.
Roman Bibles came from a Greek translation called LXX. Christian Bibles came from Hebrew OT. So why would Christian Bible be from Roman Catholics?
⭐Did Christians remove 7 books or did Roman Catholics added 7 books? ⭐
Romans 3:1-2 says Scriptures is of Jewish origins. Not Roman Catholic origins. Jews till this day holds OT 39 books. Not Roman religion’s OT 46 books. Scriptures is always correct. So clearly pointing to Roman religionists adding 7 books. Greek LXX was merely a translation of Original Hebrew OT. Original Hebrew OT did not contain Apocrypha 7 books. So why would a translation have Apocrypha 7 books? So clearly pointing to Roman religionists adding 7 books.
⭐Refuting Papacy from canon point of view. ⭐
ad382 canon was merely one of many local canons in those days, from a local council called Council of Rome. It was not a final Universal Canon which RCs love to claim. There were still other local canons before ad382 and after ad382 like in ad692 and 1442. If Roman canon was the one and only final Universal Canon for all churches, why would there be other canons before and after ad382? In fact there was not a single Ecumenical Council with bishops of all churches that fixed any Universal Canon till this day. Not one.
If there was really a pope who had "All Authority" from ad33 in early Church like what RCs love to claim, he would have fixed a Universal Canon by ad100. Why would there be so many canons floating around from ad100s -ad1400s?
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FYI - The Bible came out of the Catholic church, which is the first and only church established by Jesus himself - In her generosity the church no longer calls Protestants heretics
Why do you not read the full quote in the 1 minute mark? You left out important point
All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; so that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work.” (2 Timothy 3:16)
“We are truly his handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to lead the life of good deeds which God prepared for us in advance.” (Ephesians 2:10}
“There is no faith without good works” since the scriptures tell us in no uncertain terms (in language as plain as the nose on your face) that “faith without works is dead” (James 2:20).
The great debate in the early Church was whether Christians were obligated to keep the Mosaic law, those ceremonial and ritual requirements that St. Paul referred to as the “works of the law.” In the Council of Jerusalem described in Acts 15 the apostles, with Peter taking the lead, declared that Christians were not obligated to observe the Mosaic law “because we are saved through the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ” (Acts l5:ll). It is for this reason that St. Paul declared in Romans (at 3:28) that we are justified by faith apart from the works of the law, i.e., justified by faith apart from observing the`Mosaic law.
Some Christians have confused the phrase “works of the law,” which refers to the legal requirements of the Mosaic law, with the term “good works,” as if to say that we are justified by faith apart from good works, even though we have been assured that faith without works is dead. But when Christians talk about good works, they are talking about acts of love which proceed from the Holy Spirit. Without these acts of love, which more specifically are acts of charity, i.e., acts of selfless love, faith is dead. Paul agrees wholeheartedly with James that faith without works is dead, for he states at l Cor.13:2 that if I have faith without charity (love) then I am nothing. And at Galatians 5:6 the apostle Paul tells us that we are justified by a “faith which worketh by love” (KJV). Jesus’ Parable of the Final Judgment at Matthew 25 emphasizes in dramatic terms the critical importance of good works (see CCC 544), pertaining specifically to how love of the Lord is shown through our treatment of those who need our help.
St. John also tells us that faith without charity is dead: “He that loveth not, abideth in death” (1 John 3:14). And: “He that abideth in charity abideth in God, and God in him” (1 John 4:16). The new law which Christians are required to keep is not the works of the law contained in the Mosaic code, but rather the law of love. Thus, as Paul states, “Serve one another, rather, in acts of love, since the whole of the law is summarized in a single command: Love your neighbor as yourself” (Galatians 5:13-15). And: “Anyone who does not look after his own relations … has rejected the faith and is worse than an unbeliever” (1 Tim. 5:8).
We have been created in Christ Jesus for good works (Ephesians 2:10) . We will be judged, according to Rev. 20:13, each one according to their works. Our good works evidence the presence of the Holy Spirit living within us, transforming us more and more into the image of Christ.
I AM THE VINE
YOU ARE THE BRANCHES
WHOEVER REMAINS IN ME, WITH ME IN HIM
WILL BEAR MUCH FRUIT,
BECAUSE WITHOUT ME YOU CAN DO NOTHING
(John 15:5)
It is Jesus Christ who produces good works in us. These works evidence the fact that our faith in Jesus is alive and that God is working in our lives. Otherwise, our faith is dead. “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my father in heaven” (Matt. 7:21.). “Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only” (James 2:24 KJV).😂😂
@@biblealone9201 good job
@@peterdefeater829 so much for faith alone
@@biblealone9201 well, I get "stay in context" spat at me every time I talk theology with my protestant brothers and sisters...
@@peterdefeater829 since when do they even know the meaning of Context they practice Sola Skip-Tura🤣🤣
@justthink8952 *Both*
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Col 1:14 in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins.
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You can't clarify whether your debt of sin is paid for or your sins are forgiven which determines your salvation.
While we were sinners Christ died that we might be saved
Please be aware of the new testament book of James, chapter 2, verses 14-26. The sacred scripture tells us that faith without works is dead.
@Payne *R Ctists love copypastingns all days. Kataholos refers to "throughout all". Not R Catholic Church.*
*Every church is universal. Not only R church - a local church in history. So how does that prove R Church = Christ's Church or Universal Church?*
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The Greek roots of the term “Catholic” mean “according to (kata-) the whole (holos),” or more colloquially, “universal.” At the beginning of the second century, we find in the letters of Ignatius the first surviving use of the term “Catholic” in reference to the Church. At that time, or shortly thereafter, it was used to refer to a single, visible communion, separate from others.
The term “Catholic” is in the Apostles’, Nicene, and Athanasian creeds, and many Protestants, claiming the term for themselves, give it a meaning that is unsupported historically, ignoring the term’s use at the time the creeds were written.
Those who love Jesus Christ,,, do not be a Anti - Catholic
@johnsix.51-69 *Cite me one Ecumenical Council with bishops of all churches that fixed a Universal Canon. Just one. You cant.*
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*Hippo and Carthage were not Roman Councils. They were local councils with local canons, like Council of Rome. So how does that prove Roman Church's false claims of "Roman Church fixing a Universal Canon for all churches"?*
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the bible that we compiled at the councils of Rome 382, Hippo 393 and Carthage 397.
So someone who was baptized as a child, believed in God, murdered someone and died she/he will go to heaven?
No. The Catholic Church does not teach that. Obedience and perseverance is required.
@@MarvelGamer2023 It was meant for a non Catholic response, sorry.
@@richbehnke9613 Oh no worries. God bless.
Exactly. At its core “Biblical Christianity” says that once one is “born again”, it doesn’t matter what one does - they are saved. So one can join one of these tens of thousands of “Biblical Christianity” churches, get “saved”, then become a serial murderer, make a living robbing banks, etc, and it doesn’t matter - they’re going to heaven. If that sounds looney tunes, that’s because it is. It is completely contrary to what Jesus and His apostles taught over and over and over again in the Bible.
@salachenkoforley7382 *All my points remain unchallenged:*
*- Salvation of the Jews (12 tribes of Israel) - by Works of the Law. Not by Faith Alone. James 2.*
*- Salvation of Gentile Christians - Not by Works. By Faith Alone. Two third of NT says so.*
@Just from Catholic *YEs i agree. One Lord Jesus, One faith In Jesus and One baptism into the Body of Christ. Which part mentioned "R Church"?*
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Well, Eph. 4:5 says one Lord, one faith, one baptism. Local churches cannot have different belief. If they do they do not belong to the same one Body.
The Greek roots of the term “Catholic” mean “according to (kata-) the whole (holos),” or more colloquially, “universal.” At the beginning of the second century, we find in the letters of Ignatius the first surviving use of the term “Catholic” in reference to the Church. At that time, or shortly thereafter, it was used to refer to a single, visible communion, separate from others.
The term “Catholic” is in the Apostles’, Nicene, and Athanasian creeds, and many Protestants, claiming the term for themselves, give it a meaning that is unsupported historically, ignoring the term’s use at the time the creeds were written.
Early Church historian J. N. D. Kelly, a Protestant, writes: “As regards ‘Catholic,’ its original meaning was ‘universal’ or ‘general.’ . . . in the latter half of the second century at latest, we find it conveying the suggestion that the Catholic is the true Church as distinct from heretical congregations (cf., e.g., Muratorian Canon). . . . What these early Fathers were envisaging was almost always the empirical, visible society; they had little or no inkling of the distinction which was later to become important between a visible and an invisible Church” (Early Christian Doctrines, 190-1).
Thus people who recite the creeds mentally inserting another meaning for “Catholic” are reinterpreting them according to a modern preference, much as a liberal biblical scholar does with Scripture texts offensive to contemporary sensibilities.
Included in the quotes below are extracts from the first creeds to use the term “Catholic”; so that the term can be seen in its historical context, which is supplied by the other quotations. It is from this broader context that the meaning of the term in the creeds is established, not by one’s own notion of what the term once meant or of what it ought to mean.
Ignatius of Antioch
“Let no one do anything of concern to the Church without the bishop. Let that be considered a valid Eucharist which is celebrated by the bishop or by one whom he ordains [i.e., a presbyter]. Wherever the bishop appears, let the people be there; just as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church” (Letter to the Smyrneans 8:2 [A.D. 110]).
The Martyrdom of Polycarp
“And of the elect, he was one indeed, the wonderful martyr Polycarp, who in our days was an apostolic and prophetic teacher, bishop of the Catholic Church in Smyrna. For every word which came forth from his mouth was fulfilled and will be fulfilled” (Martyrdom of Polycarp 16:2 [A.D. 155]).
The Muratorian Canon
“Besides these [letters of Paul] there is one to Philemon, and one to Titus, and two to Timothy, in affection and love, but nevertheless regarded as holy in the Catholic Church, in the ordering of churchly discipline. There is also one [letter] to the Laodiceans and another to the Alexandrians, forged under the name of Paul, in regard to the heresy of Marcion, and there are several others which cannot be received by the Church, for it is not suitable that gall be mixed with honey. The epistle of Jude, indeed, and the two ascribed to John are received by the Catholic Church (Muratorian fragment [A.D. 177]).
Tertullian
“Where was [the heretic] Marcion, that shipmaster of Pontus, the zealous student of Stoicism? Where was Valentinus, the disciple of Platonism? For it is evident that those men lived not so long ago-in the reign of Antonius for the most part-and that they at first were believers in the doctrine of the Catholic Church, in the church of Rome under the episcopate of the blessed Eleutherius, until on account of their ever restless curiosity, with which they even infected the brethren, they were more than once expelled” (Demurrer Against the Heretics 30 [A.D. 200]).
Cyprian of Carthage
“You ought to know, then, that the bishop is in the Church and the Church in the bishops; and if someone is not with the bishop, he is not in the Church. They vainly flatter themselves who creep up, not having peace with the priest of God, believing that they are secretly in communion with certain individuals. For the Church, which is one and catholic, is not split or divided, but is indeed united and joined by the cement of priests who adhere to one another” (Letters 66[67]:8 [A.D. 253]).
Council of Nicaea I
“But those who say: ‘There was [a time] when he [the Son] was not,’ and ‘before he was born, he was not,’ and ‘because he was made from non-existing matter, he is either of another substance or essence,’ and those who call ‘God the Son of God changeable and mutable,’ these the Catholic Church anathematizes” (Appendix to the Creed of Nicaea [A.D. 325]).
“Concerning those who call themselves Cathari [Novatians], that is, ‘the Clean,’ if at any time they come to the Catholic Church, it has been decided by the holy and great council that, provided they receive the imposition of hands, they remain among the clergy. However, because they are accepting and following the doctrines of the catholic and apostolic Church, it is fitting that they acknowledge this in writing before all; that is, both that they communicate with the twice married and with those who have lapsed during a persecution” (Canon 8).
Cyril of Jerusalem
“[The Church] is called catholic, then, because it extends over the whole world, from end to end of the earth, and because it teaches universally and infallibly each and every doctrine which must come to the knowledge of men, concerning things visible and invisible, heavenly and earthly, and because it brings every race of men into subjection to godliness, governors and governed, learned and unlearned, and because it universally treats and heals every class of sins, those committed with the soul and those with the body, and it possesses within itself every conceivable form of virtue, in deeds and in words and in the spiritual gifts of every description” (Catechetical Lectures 18:23 [A.D. 350]).
“And if you ever are visiting in cities, do not inquire simply where the house of the Lord is-for the others, sects of the impious, attempt to call their dens ‘houses of the Lord’-nor ask merely where the Church is, but where is the Catholic Church. For this is the name peculiar to this holy Church, the mother of us all, which is the spouse of our Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God” (ibid., 18:26).
The Apostles’ Creed
“I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy catholic Church, the communion of saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and the life everlasting. Amen” (Apostles’ Creed [A.D. 360 version, the first to include the term “Catholic”]).
Council of Constantinople I
“I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father, who together with the Father and the Son is worshiped and glorified, who spoke through the prophets; in one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church” (Nicene Creed [A.D. 381]).
“Those who embrace orthodoxy and join the number of those who are being saved from the heretics, we receive in the following regular and customary manner: Arians, Macedonians, Sabbatians, Novatians, those who call themselves Cathars and Aristeri, Quartodecimians or Tetradites, Apollinarians- these we receive when they hand in statements and anathematize every heresy which is not of the same mind as the holy, catholic, and apostolic Church of God” (Canon 7).
Augustine
“We must hold to the Christian religion and to communication in her Church, which is catholic and which is called catholic not only by her own members but even by all her enemies. For when heretics or the adherents of schisms talk about her, not among themselves but with strangers, willy-nilly they call her nothing else but Catholic. For they will not be understood unless they distinguish her by this name which the whole world employs in her regard” (The True Religion 7:12 [A.D. 390]).
“We believe in the holy Church, that is, the Catholic Church; for heretics and schismatics call their own congregations churches. But heretics violate the faith itself by a false opinion about God; schismatics, however, withdraw from fraternal love by hostile separations, although they believe the same things we do. Consequently, neither heretics nor schismatics belong to the Catholic Church; not heretics, because the Church loves God, and not schismatics, because the Church loves neighbor” (Faith and Creed 10:21 [A.D. 393]).
“If you should find someone who does not yet believe in the gospel, what would you [Mani] answer him when he says, ‘I do not believe’? Indeed, I would not believe in the gospel myself if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so” (ibid., 5:6).
“[T]here are many other things which most properly can keep me in her [the Catholic Church’s] bosom. The unanimity of peoples and nations keeps me here. Her authority, inaugurated in miracles, nourished by hope, augmented by love, and confirmed by her age, keeps me here. The succession of priests, from the very see of the apostle Peter, to whom the Lord, after his resurrection, gave the charge of feeding his sheep [John 21:15-17], up to the present episcopate, keeps me here. And last, the very name Catholic, which, not without reason, belongs to this Church alone, in the face of so many heretics, so much so that, although all heretics want to be called ‘Catholic,’ when a stranger inquires where the Catholic Church meets, none of the heretics would dare to point out his own basilica or house” (Against the Letter of Mani Called “The Foundation” 4:5 [A.D. 397]).
Vincent of Lerins
“I have often then inquired earnestly and attentively of very many men eminent for sanctity and learning, how and by what sure and so to speak universal rule I may be able to distinguish the truth of Catholic faith from the falsehood of heretical depravity; and I have always, and in almost every instance, received an answer to this effect: that whether I or anyone else should wish to detect the frauds and avoid the snares of heretics as they arise, and to continue sound and complete in the Catholic faith, we must, the Lord helping, fortify our own belief in two ways: first, by the authority of the divine law [Scripture], and then by the tradition of the Catholic Church. But here some one perhaps will ask, ‘Since the canon of Scripture is complete, and sufficient of itself for everything, and more than sufficient, what need is there to join with it the authority of the Church’s interpretation?’ For this reason: Because, owing to the depth of holy Scripture, all do not accept it in one and the same sense, but one understands its words in one way, another in another, so that it seems to be capable of as many interpretations as there are men. . . . Therefore, it is very necessary, on account of so great intricacies of such various errors, that the rule for the right understanding of the prophets and apostles should be framed in accordance with the standard of ecclesiastical and catholic interpretation” (The Notebooks 2:1-2 [A.D. 434]).
Council of Chalcedon
“Since in certain provinces readers and cantors have been allowed to marry, this sacred synod decrees that none of them is permitted to marry a wife of heterodox views. If those thus married have already had children, and if they have already had the children baptized among heretics, they are to bring them into the communion of the Catholic Church” (Canon 14 [A.D. 451]).
@payne9216 *R Ctists love tales. Nowhere in these writings ever said R Church = the Universal Church or Christ's Church. R ctists presumed its so. Lol*
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The Greek roots of the term “Catholic” mean “according to (kata-) the whole (holos),” or more colloquially, “universal.” At the beginning of the second century, we find in the letters of Ignatius the first surviving use of the term “Catholic” in reference to the Church. At that time, or shortly thereafter, it was used to refer to a single, visible communion, separate from others.
The term “Catholic” is in the Apostles’, Nicene, and Athanasian creeds, and many Protestants, claiming the term for themselves, give it a meaning that is unsupported historically, ignoring the term’s use at the time the creeds were written.
Early Church historian J. N. D. Kelly, a Protestant, writes: “As regards ‘Catholic,’ its original meaning was ‘universal’ or ‘general.’ . . . in the latter half of the second century at latest, we find it conveying the suggestion that the Catholic is the true Church as distinct from heretical congregations (cf., e.g., Muratorian Canon). . . . What these early Fathers were envisaging was almost always the empirical, visible society; they had little or no inkling of the distinction which was later to become important between a visible and an invisible Church” (Early Christian Doctrines, 190-1).
@Norbenrico Bacani *Your argument seems dim. Bible does not say they only "evangelise" because of "Faith without works is dead".*
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Faith without works is dead, if the apostle didn't work for it, they wouldn't evangelize to the people and of course many people would go to hell. How could you tell us that we must not work out for our salvation? from the very beginning you could see the prophets, how they struggled and suffered from this world. Look what happened to Jonah's, the whale shallowed him because of his disobedience to God. If people live by faith alone without works, then people won't go to church because you have said it is faith alone without works. Many people don't want to pray because you have said it is faith alone without works. Faith must see thier works if they can bear a good fruits. A good tree cannot bear bad fruits. Period.
Fruits of the Spirit= Good Works. That's what the catholic church fails to understand when it says that we are to have good works to be saved; it's not that we do good works to stay saved, but that good works are a sign that we are saved.
I think that all this is a question of semantics that can resolve itself by being open to the Holy Spirit.
@aaronsmith5904 *You are talking ns once again. Bible anathematises Works Salvation. Gal 1:8-9. Yet you claimed Roman religion says so, so it's truth.*
*And you are pretending Roman religion = the Universal Church and Church Christ founded. Bible and real history did not say so. So where is your proof that it was so?*
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If the catholic church teaches work based salvation, then the bible teaches it too, and you shouldn't have a problem with it. If the bible doesn't teach works salvation, then the catholic church doesn't teach works salvation. It all depends on your definition of "works salvation". If you mean that God saved us because the works we do had merit in his eyes, then neither the bible nor the church teach this. If you mean by "works salvation" that works play a role in sanctification, prompted by God's grace, not the inspiration of salvation, but rather a gift after initial justification, then the bible and the catholic church teaches this.
1:48 This is basically Ezekiel 18. Difference is Catholics believe the righteous are saved. Protestants believing to be righteous means sinless perfection argues no one is righteous, thus only Christs righteousness imputed to them by faith will gain their justification and so be saved. Catholics have been believing theirs for 2000 ish years. Protestants unheard of interpretation before Luther(?) for about 500 ish years.
This is important because you cannot exercise the kind of faith that justifies the sinner while you depend in part on works. I have noted an irony here. Those who refuse the Catholic dogma are richer in good works than those who believe in Justification by faith without works; ; see Romans 1:17, Galatians 3:11, Hebrews 10:38, Titus 3:5-7, Romans 4:16, 5:1, 11:6 etc. ,
1// The Catholic Church does not teach that we earn our salvation by our own efforts, although it does teach that we have to work on our salvation. The same apostle who wrote Galatians also wrote Philippians, wherein Paul says, “Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling” (Phil. 2:12).
2// The official teachings of the Catholic Church teaches that we can do nothing to merit the grace that comes to us in baptism, which is the normal beginning of the Christian life. In fact, the Council of Trent condemned anyone who taught that we can save ourselves or who taught even that God helps us do what we could do for ourselves. The Church teaches that we can be saved only by God’s grace.
3// Following Paul, the Catholic Church teaches that justification comes by faith. Only it says that it doesn’t come through faith alone. If you look carefully at Paul’s writings, you will notice that he never says that our righteousness comes from faith alone-only that it comes from faith apart from works.
4// Romans 3:28 is a key verse in the differences between Protestants and Catholics. You will notice that Paul says a man is justified by faith (pistei in Greek). When Martin Luther translated the letter to the Romans into German in the sixteenth century, he added the word alone -but alone is not in the original Greek text. The phrase “faith alone” does occur in the New Testament: one time, in James 2:24. There the inspired apostle denies that justification is from faith alone. Let me quote it: “You see that a man is justified by works and not by faith alone.”
5// Paul categorically excludes works from our salvation. But what kind of works is Paul talking about? If we believe the entire Bible, we need to see how Paul’s words fit together with James’s words, because James clearly says that “a man is justified by works.” If Paul and James mean the same thing by works, then they contradict one another. Since you and I both believe that the Bible cannot contradict itself, we must agree that Paul and James mean two different things by the word works.
6// The Catholic Church believes that we should interpret Scripture by using Scripture. You will note that sometimes Paul expands his phrase from works by adding the phrase of the law, as in Romans 3:20 and 28 and Galatians 2:16. Further, sometimes Paul substitutes the phrase through the law to describe the same reality. For example, in Romans 3:20, he says, “Through the law comes knowledge of sin.” In other words, when Paul uses the word works he is talking about the Old Testament law.
7// A careful reading of Galatians will show that Paul is using works of the law to refer especially to the law of circumcision. He is so strong about this that he says in Galatians 5:2, “Now I, Paul, say to you that if you receive circumcision, Christ will be of no advantage to you.” Paul’s opponents in Galatia wanted to bring the Gentile Christians back into the Old Testament law. These are the works of the law that Paul is fighting against, and they have no place in our justification. Paul is saying in essence that Gentile Christians do not have to be circumcised and live like Jewish Christians in order to be saved.
@@1234poppycat Your comment is ambiguous. You even contradicted yourself. And besides, the Reformation was not a quarrel over semantics. Your church and you with it teach that salvation must be earned. And here is the one passage you consistently avoid, Galatians 2:21, "I do not frustrate the grace of God. For if righteousness comes by the law; then Christ is dead in vain."
How did this come about, this sidestepping of the all-sufficient cross by which sinners are saved? The Schoolmen seized upon the word propitiation [Romans 3:25] and watered it down so that sinners could propitiate God without which they will not be saved and forgiven. In other words, they need more than the cross.
Sheer blasphemy!
The Catholic Church contrary to what you have said does teach that salvation must be earned; by propitiating God for sins committed, by works, vigils, pilgrimages, the use of the sacraments, and suffering in purgatory.
One more thing, when Paul said, "work out your salvation", he was implying they already have salvation which can only mean that they had already been Justified, Romans 5:1, 11:6. No Romanist would ever teach that.
i repeat, the Reformation was not based on a quarrel over words. Your church is promoting its own version of Judaism.
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@@rev.stephena.cakouros948 I have been very clear. I know the bible and the teachings of Catholicism at post grad level . You repeat your errors .. You say that Catholics do not believe that Jesus death on the cross was not sufficient !! On the part of God it clearly was sufficient !! But as we see in the Gospels and elsewhere tell us we have to play our part. .. We never have it in the bible that we have done enough . We do not see in the bible "faith Alone"
You say ""One more thing, when Paul said, "work out your salvation", he was implying they already have salvation which can only mean that they had already been Justified, Romans 5:1, 11:6. No Romanist would ever teach that. "" How can "Work out your salvation " mean you already have it ?? If you are needing to work at something it means you are not finished It means there is more to do .. ......... It seems when confronted with my 7 points you tried to answer the first and found it too difficult then gave up.
@@1234poppycat You have real problems. I realized you are not a real thinker. So why go on talking to someone who has been programmed? Someone who is not open to truth. Face it the Catholic Church does not teach Justification by faith and you are trying to get around that fact, or you are pretending that the apostles did not teach justification by faith. Are you blind?
@@rev.stephena.cakouros948 That's clearly works of the Mosaic law. How's all he's say all ambiguous? And you are slanderously attacking his stance. People of the earliest point in the reformation didn't think sola scriptura was what you think it is. The reformation was and us the great falling away. No reformer was an apostle nor did an angel deliver this doctrine nor was any reformer caught up to the third heavens . Who gave these people authority to bond or loose or to forgive sins . Who gave these people authority to baptize. Is there apostolic secession? Did any, and I mean any of the people who knew the apostles and those who knew those who were taught by the apostles: Ignations of Antioch, Polycarp, Clemet, Justin Martyr have any form of religion remotely resembling modern protestantism? What is paganism what are it's practices. Are Roman / latin Catholics really practicing paganism. Prove it with a subjective method. Show it historically. You can't all you can do is slander them. And when you don't really know don't guess that you must be right especially if you got you information from a cult; seventh day adventist. Or no scholarship at all, just taking something someone said and not checking it out at the source. Some guy earlier in this thread asked why the Catholics were Roman? Super ignorant. Some other guy about my age says he 60 or so said he was a Latin Catholic for 60 years then he became a protestant. He never in all that time asked or went to all the talks? Everything starting around 500 years ago is bootleg Christianity. You have some ok some good some atrocious, but all non historical Christianity and these guy 1600-1900 years later are read a letters to figure each word out with no real historical guide. They can't see all the hundreds of interpretations can not be correct. They have the nerve to think everyone who picks up the 300 and something pages of the New Testament is lead of the sprit. Reall?
@ChaChaDancin *WRong again. Prima Scriptura is just a modern term for Sola Scriptura. If you carefully examine what Luther taught, he never once claimed there were no other authorities or sources of truth.*
*Sola Scriptura does not say Scripture is the only truth or only authority. There are many authorities such as Jesus/God, Apostles, Church, Leaders .. but even authorities like Jesus, Apostles and NT Church appealed to Scriptures Only for doctrines. Not once they appealed to traditions.*
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This is just basic documented history.
In response to the specific question you posed: “Really? Cite a few interpretations of Sola Scriptura?”
1) Evangelical (Sola Scriptura)
2) Anglican (Prima Scriptura)
3) Lutheran (Sola Scriptura)
4) Methodist (Prima Scriptura)
5) Reformed (Sola Scriptura)
6) Pentecostal (Prima Scriptura)
7) Baptist (Sola Scriptura)
… do I need to go on? I could add thousands more examples of “Sola Scriptura” interpretations which each have their own interpretations and beliefs, which is why they are separate sects.
@payne9216 *"catholic" indeed meant "universal". But it had always referred to the Christian Churches being spread throughout the region. Totally nothing to do with a local Church called Church of Rome or in modern days Roman Catholic Church.*
*I haven't seen a single document in history or Scriptures that ever tied Church of Rome to the Universal Church or Christ's Church. Not one. Not even Ignatiu's writings.*
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The Greek roots of the term “Catholic” mean “according to (kata-) the whole (holos),” or more colloquially, “universal.” At the beginning of the second century, we find in the letters of Ignatius the first surviving use of the term “Catholic” in reference to the Church. At that time, or shortly thereafter, it was used to refer to a single, visible communion, separate from others.
The term “Catholic” is in the Apostles’, Nicene, and Athanasian creeds, and many Protestants, claiming the term for themselves, give it a meaning that is unsupported historically, ignoring the term’s use at the time the creeds were written.
Early Church historian J. N. D. Kelly, a Protestant, writes: “As regards ‘Catholic,’ its original meaning was ‘universal’ or ‘general.’ . . . in the latter half of the second century at latest, we find it conveying the suggestion that the Catholic is the true Church as distinct from heretical congregations (cf., e.g., Muratorian Canon). . . . What these early Fathers were envisaging was almost always the empirical, visible society; they had little or no inkling of the distinction which was later to become important between a visible and an invisible Church” (Early Christian Doctrines, 190-1).
@stevengarman4848 *Christians (Believers of Christ - the Church) existed from the time of Christ till this day. Playing with words DOES NOT PROVE your Roman Church man made doctrines DOES IT?*
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Where do you find Protestants before Luther ?