Testing And Tuning WP 6500 Kit | 2023 KTM 300XC | Suspension | Highland Cycles | TBT Racing
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ย. 2024
- First impressions of the WP 6500 kit on the 2023 KTM 300XC! How good is the WP 6500 Kit?
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Largely due to your reviews of the 2023 300xc, I decided to upgrade my 2021 Husky 250i. Ended up with the 2023 TX 300. You were right. What a game changer. I don't know that in 40 years of riding, I've ever been as comfortable or confident on a stock bike.
Yes!!!
You know you’re good when you make it all look so easy!
Very inspiring
Thanks so much 😊
Air forks are my favorite for play riding. Multiple revalves is how you get to "there" the better you get your bike working the more the expense is worth it. Platform pegs are an affordable luxury
The 6500 inserts definitely shine in the slower technical gnar over the AER! Great video. Thanks for all your content.
Thank you
Stoked to see the boys ripping so well! My son's on an 85, and it floors me when he pulls away at times!
Your boys are riding super good, man you must be one proud father.
Take notes all you dads out there, spend time with your boys and that time will pay off!
Thanks man. I love riding with them
Went with this kit for my son's 23 KTM 450 SXF (A rider MX). Haven't heard a bad thing about them yet. Just go everything back on the bike. Great video!
Thanks. They are very good.
Trust me, from a guy that has rode the same type of terrain you ride. As Soon as I noticed the speed you were going over some of that stuff, I said to myself ….that dude that there is definitely in the “A class .”
Hahaha. Thanks
Sold my bike kept the 6500 kit for the future bike. With the right springs and valving I’ve never had anything better.
Agree
My 2021 was 10000.00 bucks. (New in 2021) For as much as they charge for the bike it shouldn’t take 1500 more just for the forks. Maybe a revalve not whole new guts. Also my 250 TPI motor took money to get it as good as a carburetor bike. I’m keeping this bike I have but never getting another new KTM.
To be honest, a simple re valve did make this bike very good and I won a 40+ A Class race on it completely stock before any mods so it was an amazing bike right of the showroom floor. But I hear ya.
First time I got a (red) KTM it certainly needed a TSP reflash and high comp head to make the bike excellent because stock it wasn't very good
In my opinion a stock bike is a foundation. I anticipate dropping 2 to 3 grand on set up. I 100% appreciate your input. After watching your clown ass I am now a believer in the 6500 kit.
You mentioned the fly fishing, but didn't show the strike indicator! 🙂 Was curious to see max travel you encountered on that ride.
And to be honest I would buy your kid a gasgas mc250 and put a keihin/fmf pipe combo on it. The 19 to 22 frame with a balancer engine is still legit. Then the yz125 would become an heirloom/spare bike. We don't have everything in common but we have a lot in common. 23 XC300 is the 1st new bike I would buy. I would ultimately gut the forks. The difference between big tanks is marginal, but I am an over 3 gallon minimum for a smoker. Have you considered an ohlins shock?
Long term review on these? Don’t see one on your channel. Holla!!!
Haven’t done one yet. Will be coming in the next few weeks
Its an absolute disgrace that this isn't the stock set up on new ktms! It is after all just an up date on the older CC forks that were stock fitment for years.
Or at the very least you should be able to spec your new bike with these forks WITHOUT having to pay for the stock junk too.
Another reason why I'll probably switch brands.
Yep, I really wish they had the Beta model of Build Your Own Bike. You could spec it from the dealer and it would show up with all the stuff you want like a spark arrestor, these forks, and other things and not have to pay for the stuff that will sit on a shelf. That being said, this is still the very best bike I have ridden. And it was before the mods.
This is the exact reason I made the switch to the yz250fx.
@@TheRcscalebuilder brilliant bike
@@TheRcscalebuilder when Yamaha makes a E-start YZ250X or a YZ300X it will be game over for the European bikes.
@@ghost53pilot😂😂😂😂 yeah, right.
Honest review
I think so
Great channel keep it coming
Really great footage👍
Thanks Richard
You're doing a helluva great job with these videos, Morgan. I'm abut ready to pull the trigger on anew 23 300 XC. Might do this upgrade next year. Or not. Thanks.
You’d love it
@@highlandcycles bought it. Love it. Truth was found yesterday on a hill I normally struggle with out at Kremmling. About1 out of 30 with my 20' TPI Husky, struggling at the top in 1st gear. Yesterday...first try and in 2nd with speed when I reached the top. Suspension feels great a well, even though I probably need a heavier spring in the rear. Game changer. Cheers!
Well done as usual!
I appreciate that
Morgan
Can’t wait for you to make my new KTM 450 xcf-w dreamy. This bike is gonna be cool
Going to be so good.
It looks like the Shock on your kids bike has some Yama hop
Yeah, I have the right spring for him now
I have a '23 300xc and I'm just finishing up breaking it in (6 hours on it now). My only real complaint is that it knifes under in 3rd/4th gear deep sand (yes, I'm in Michigan). Not sure if the front is too soft (even though I've got over 2½" of unused front travel) or maybe the rear has too much compression. But on hard pack I'm happy with the suspension.
Try giving yourself a little more sag. Try 105mm
@@highlandcycles will do, thank you!
No one knows how to make a slow trail bike comfy better than your buddy jeff😅
Hahahaha
Hi .. i have 701 enduro 2023 it's a great bike im 80 kg, and i ordered a rally tower. i need a forks upgrade but I don't know what good what not do u have any advice..
If you have the money buy the pro series rally stuff from WP
nice riding
Do you think you could compare these vs cone valves? I looking to upgrade my te250i and was mostly looking at used cones, kyb or the 6500 kit.
6500 hands down. I feel like the only people who can use cone valves hard enough to justify them are professionals.
I have cone valves. They were too stiff originally so I paid $1200 for a suspension tuner to take the cones out and put in race tech gold valves (his idea not mine) Now they’re amazing! But now I have $4700 into a pair of forks with performance that can be closely matched with a $1500 6500 kit or a revalve.
@@BAYAREAMX that is the problem. The cone valve system is really cool but really firm. You can valve them and make them more compliant (even leaving them in) but then you end up with performance like these. So far, these are the best bang for the buck in the “A Kit” range of money.
It just seems like a step up in stability from the video’s perspective
It is
Dang dude after spending way too much time researching suspension options and finally landing on Mxtech Ravens, I’m second guessing my decision hearing you prefer the WP6500. I’m a 42 year old B class rider on a 2020 300xc and literally a day away from shipping my suspension off.
Would you mind elaborating a little more on your thoughts on the two?
Thanks man!
Ravens are lighter at least
Timing couldn’t be better for this video. I’m at a crossroads with my 2019 FX350, it’s due for fork service… feeling really harsh and sticky now. I feel like I loved them when the bike was new but now at 100 hours. I rode a 2022 250xc with stock xact suspension and it felt soo much more plush than mine. Again I know mine are due for service so that’s not a real comparison. This weekend I rode a 2023 300 xc with stock valving but with racetech spring conversion and WOW!!! It was so nice I don’t have words. I rode it though the same whoops and Rocky section I had just gone through on mine and it was night and day difference. I’m trying to decide between inntech glide kit and refresh my suspension at the same time, or racetech spring conversion with also refreshing everything else… or going with some inserts like this. What is your opinion? @highlandcycles
I now have more time on these and I can’t recommend them enough. I’m not sure which racetech setup you rode but these inserts are brilliant!! I will be releasing a new video talking about them again in Utah but I can say for sure they are worth it and better than any other setup I’ve ridden.
@@highlandcycles the description on WP website says these inserts are for xact forks, would the work on my 2019 AER 48 non xcact forks?
@@obedm.6627 you have to get different lugs for them to work with your forks.
Good stuff Morgan! I LOVE my 6500 kit!
Curious...have you tested it or know anyone who has tested the FMF Fatty on the new 300?
I haven't heard of anyone testing it.
How are the SKF dual compound seals? Are they a big improvement over oem?
They are good but not sure they are a big improvement
@@highlandcycles i feel like my current fork seals have so much stiction and they dont even go on their own to the top. I bought these dual compound seals and hopefully they will help with that
@@elkku2934 they are very god.
How would you compare this to a KYB conversion? You mentioned that you know kyb well, just curious of your thoughts between this 6500 set up and the kyb feel? Thank you!
They are very similar. I think I like the 6500 better to be honest. Even though I make more money selling KYB stuff.
You guys (Tbt) working in settings for the super trax?
Yes
Is it possible to install 6500 kit on an older OC 4860 forks?
I don’t know. It might be but would probably take more parts. Shoot me an email and I can check into it morgan@highland-cycles.com
How's your boots holding up with the gnarly carpaks footpegs?
Amazingly well. I’m going to do a vid on that soon
Is that kit a spring conversion kit?
Yep, th-cam.com/video/TLj9HjrUvSk/w-d-xo.html
Ready to Race - after you spend another wad of cash - I appreciate all of KTMs technology but for nearly 11k the bike should come with these forks as on option.
I completely agree. To be fair, I raced the bike bone stock and won the 40+ A Class. This just makes it better
Lol, are you Kyle?
Hahaha
Riddle me this: Does the guy in front of you "NOT KNOW THAT HIS CLUTCH IS 10 RIDES PAST GONE"" ???
Hahaha. That’s my kid on his 125. We didn’t know it but that bike was just about to blow up. Long story but used bike and now it’s rebuilt
KTM business model: why just sell the most expensive bikes, lets make the forks suck so we get to hit them for thousand's more?
I definitely agree.
@@highlandcycles lol, I am sure they don't actually suck but why wouldn't they make them the best they can be right off the showroom floor? Probably wouldn't cost more than $100 per bike.
@@ddrowdy7666 I’m with you
Dang just got my sons 250 sx conversion 6500 kit for moto but we are from ohio
What spring are you running on the rear? I'm the same weight as you and I'm running a 4.8 but I'm also on the 350 XCF. Still have air on the front but you got me thinking. I'm pretty happy with the air but.................
4.6 and I was happy too but…