I can't get enough of Douglas Murray. He speaks in mostly plain words, but in elevated concepts. Leave it to foreign men to save America (Peterson, Murray, etc.).
@@macclift9956 I think Douglas saw the Capitol incident and got 'spooked'. He is well travelled and seen a lot of serious stuff (albeit he tends to allude to it, rather than obviously reference it - his book on Bloody Sunday has examples of this). When you see certain things, that then colours the way you may view other circumstances - and the Capitol was on the surface an assault on the Western Democracy/Enlightenment values that Douglas holds dear. Chatting to the one smart person I know - we looked at the Capitol incident and thought it not much worse than some 1970s pitch invasions.
@@didinx8417 really? I looked at a year's worth of politicially sanctioned antifa/blm rioting, looting and murder throughout 2020 and thought the same thing, you evil hypocrite.
but the problem with people like Douglas Murray is something I have found out with my parents. I always thought of my dad as a knowledgable and a science person; after all he was a physics teacher before he retired. BOY has that opinion of me changed over the last roughly 5 years. I learned that it doesn't really matter what science says coz people will take the notion that's popular over what is truth. I let my dad show a docu where scientists debunk ALL that climate nonsense with the climate scaremongering's own data and for a minute he agreed with my point of view. I thought 'Yes, I finally made him see the light on this subject and what utter bullocks the national news is broadcasting daily. He's now gonna see the indoctrination and absolute political bias of the mainstream media'.... but that's not what happened though, after 2 weeks of daily indoctrination of the national news he was right back to his old climate religion. It was then that I realized that for him just as for the vast majority; it's not about what's actually true, it's about what is the popular opinion. Above that he still holds the news I guess in great respect, and thinks that journalism of the old days is still preformed. A few weeks ago I tried the same on all this vaccination scam and that actually doctors prove it's rather dangerous. He didn't want to hear. In not so many words he was like 'I'm retired, I don't want to think, I just want to watch the news and if the vaccination is what it takes to get me to travel, that's what I do.' He even began to be upset because when I told him that the animals of the animal trails of the predecessor vaccine all died he didn't want to hear. I guess my dad has to figure out the hard way coz.... this is not something of an opinion on the news, this is something he let stuff in his own body, unfortunately.
Here in California it’s even beginning to effect everyday workers. My husband works in water and sanitation. And he is forced to attend meetings on diversity and inclusion. Including videos on sexualy divergent acts and the like. Which has absolutely nothing to do with utilities! It takes time away from him actually fixing pipes and providing water to the community. He is of a minority race and stands up to this crap. He informs them that he won’t be a puppet and not to include him in racial victimhood.
Well done! I am mixed race, so I'm visibly "other," and if one more person tries to rope me into any kind of woke nonsense based on the colour of my skin/gender/whatever the heck, I am going to start carrying around a wet fish to slap them upside the head. 😄
Is that an instruction... I think we might have a successor (albeit on the other side) to... and I don't tap this lightly: Christopher Hitchins... AmIClose?
“It’s going to decolonize its collection of instruments!” 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 I haven’t stopped laughing for several minutes, but the point is so important. Don’t apologize, don’t accept this - fight wherever you are.
This eloquent, humorous, artistic type of speech, which doesn't hesitate to use poetic language in order to grasp the real phenomena at hand, but stays constantly to the point and doesn't wander off for a second: this is what we know from Douglas Murray, what is left of the great style of previous thinkers, and what is unfortunately fading away and becoming a rarity in this world where shouting, anger and aggression take the place of clear and honest speech. Thank you, for keeping the light on this darkness!
I'm sorry, but I strongly disagree. He is using lies and opioniated faff to prove his points to an audiance that isn't disagreeing with him for they (The Danube Institute) are essentially center right as is Doug...
Oh my god - I want to thank Douglas’s parents and tutors for giving us this man and developing his talent - Thankyou. Dickensian Mr Toope raising eyebrow saga, raise every eyebrow at mr Toope, Sub literates at the library 😂😂😂, social sciences are neither social or sciences and at worst are a highly political missiles aimed at society. Douglas is a total legend
One of my favourite quotes from Douglas is him de-bunking Sam Smith's attention seeking behaviour during the Covid pandemic: "He came out as 'look at me'."
@@hughmuir3063 Lol. Okay. High Priest Sowell says to sacrifice the disabled and unwell to the greater good of our almighty capitalism. Boot straps or boot heels,(boothills). Greed is virtuous, sharing is shameful. When you help you actually hurt. So says High Priest Sowell in the name of devine capitalism. All bow down and praise money. Amen
@@andrewgroleau5805 Mind quoting him directly to substantiate these claims. I'd be really interested to see you defend this position using Sowell own words.
Douglas has a clarity that makes you sit back and say why couldn't I see that. " You never win" especially when you never take the language back from those who pervert it for their gain .
quite bitchy, at times. arrogant and snobby about social status and intellect. but many good points. shame about the descending into petty hatred and polarising the issues, as everyone does, on all sides of the argument, disappointing but not surprising
@@thememeoverlord.1949 look at what I do to people? by having a conversation? intersting.. ok then (and by the way,being aware of my effect on others is part of my ethics, but I do't feel bad about expressing my view, politely, on a social media thread.) thanks , though.. please also do as you have said. cheerio
@@eva-imogenewharehoka2299 Is he snobby because he judges people by their intellectual and professional attainments, rather than their standing in the Oppression Olympics? We need far more people in universities who judge their colleagues by the former criteria instead of the latter.
I'm a Cambridge alumna and I've loathed the self-aggrandizing nitwit Stephen Toope since his early days as VC. The amount of emails we get from the alumni office containing egocentric videos of Toope is nauseating. Can't they use university resources for more worthy projects? I find him rather creepy. I'm so pleased Douglas Murray has publicly lambasted him. Can we please cancel Toope?
The National Trust has succumbed to the same influences as the British Library resulting in NT members withdrawing their membership which has left the Trust financially challenged.
Nietzsche sums these people up perfectly. "For let’s admire the skilful counterfeiting with which people here imitate the trademarks of virtue, even its resounding tinkle, the golden sound of virtue. They have now taken a lease on virtue entirely for themselves, these weak and hopeless invalids-there’s no doubt about that: “We alone are the good men, the just men”- that’s how they speak: “We alone are the homines bonae voluntatis [men of good will].” They wander around among us like personifications of reproach, like warnings to us-as if health, success, strength, pride, and a feeling of power were already inherently depraved things, for which people must atone some day, atone bitterly. O how ready they themselves basically are to make people atone, how they thirst to be hangmen! Among them there are plenty of people disguised as judges seeking revenge. They always have the word “Justice” in their mouths, like poisonous saliva, with their mouths always pursed, always ready to spit at anything which does not look discontented and goes on its way in good spirits. Among them there is no lack of that most disgusting species of vain people, the lying monsters who aim to present themselves as “beautiful souls” and who, for example, carry off to market their ruined sensuality, wrapped up in verse and other swaddling clothes, as “purity of heart,” the species of self-gratifying moral masturbators. The desire of sick people to present some form or other of superiority, their instinct for secret paths leading to a tyranny over the healthy-where can we not find it, this very will to power of the weakest people!" - Nietzsche, Genealogy of Morals
If there are imitations of virtue, then what is virtue? Is it "health, success, strength, pride, and a feeling of power"? Nietzsche calls out the lie, but that is always the easier task.
the stupidity of some of the people running those institutions, not to mention politicians, is simply mind-boggling! How did people suddenly become such cowards incapable of expressing their own opinions and yielding to social pressure?
Bravo! Gentlemen, thank you for this candid and prolific discussion. It should be required viewing in every US classroom from the age of 13 and up. The issues raised and answers discussed provide a clearer pathway forward towards redressing our failing institutions and governments. Mr. Murray, thank you for continuing to illuminate with razor sharp acuity why conservatism matters, we owe you a great debt.
Oh my: The scene Douglas shares of his colleague Melanie McDunagh is absolutely brilliant. In our day replete with serpents, we are to be wiser than serpents….
“What will it take to win? A bit of backbone.” Bloody oath, Douglas. As long as those people can risk what it takes to show that backbone. Who holds the power?
Stable fairy. Did you ever read his Spectator article about cancel culture in which he linked the removal of harpsichords at the British music museum with the death of George Floyd? I was crying😂
Let's just call this mass capitulation to far left ideologues what it is- cowardice. Like all bullys, they will crawl back to their hole the minute you go back at them. Every time you give in it validates them. Stand strong!
They are cowards, absolutely. There are simple questions to ask that would invalidate their arguments. But they will not engage! 🤷🏻♂️ they will cast aspersions and attack people outright. But when calling names so to speak is your first response it just shows how paper thin their arguments are. 🤷🏻♂️
I'm a simple man. I see Douglas Murray in the thumbnail and I click the video. Once again, I'm not disappointed; only left wishing that the video was 5 hours not 1.
In the Chinese city of Nanking, there is a statue of one Dr. John Rabe, ambassador from Germany. He is remembered there in a similar way as Oskar Schindler, in his protection of innocents (in Rabe's case, Chinese) against the depredations of the invading Japanese. His party affiliation is exactly what you'd expect of a German official in 1937.
Wondering why these critics of Cancel Culture haven't come out against the attempts to criminalize Ben & Jerry's decision to not sell ice cream in the West Bank.
Thank you guys. I've been suffering from acute anxiety and trauma because some people have been targeting me to cancel me. I appreciate your openness in talking about this subject 😊
Thank you for your wisdom and reason, Douglas. It makes life easier and the world saner. You don't fail to entartain us with your exquisite sense of humour and joy. This is priceless.
No-one here seems to have remarked upon Douglas' _actual_ eyebrow raising skills, which he did with perfect timing in this video. I find it difficult so will have to practice, perhaps a Cambridge based course would be popular..
About Slave owners "There is a founder of a very major world religion who was a slave owner fortunately there aren't statues to him or indeed cartoons. It is one of the examples I sometimes give to remind people that you don't want to run this juggernaut all the way..."
There's not many things as refreshing and inspiring than listening to Douglas Murray. I love how sharp and blunt he is. I wish all conservatives could learn how to speak reason the way he does. Bravo
I think the charge of racism should be "libelous per se" which in the law would mean it is presumed to be defamatory and the burden would be on the defendant to prove the charge is true, otherwise they have defamed the person and they are liable for presumed damages (usually $25,000)
I love Douglas Murray because, whilst he describes perfectly the tyranny and hegemony of the modern Left, he doesn't wallow in self-pity, and nor does he shy away from the hardest and most sacred questions. For example, on the issue of the statue of the Confederate slaver, Alexander Stephens, outside that Jacksonville courthouse, it would've been easy for Murray to say "Well of course, in *that* case..." Instead he reasserted the principle of states rights and autonomy for the people of Jacksonville to decide for themselves what statues and relics they have standing. This refusal to give an inch to the Left to bolster his credentials as a Good Guy is what gives Murray such an indomitable and convincing presence. Most of us are tempted to indulge the polite lies, half truths and poor arguments of the liberal Left - at least on some sensitive issues - for an easy life, but not Murray. And, moreover, his calls to action, on an institutional level, are refreshing when so many on the Right cower in the teeth of Silicon Valley, elite universities, the legacy media and twitter mobs.
He does not present a very balanced review of the right wing cultural hegemony of the US and UK populist politics. Unfortunately all democratic politics has degenerated into a morass of unidentifiable schisms that ultimately protect the unequal private wealth of the minority over the greater good of society. In all of his writing there seems to be little substance in terms if operational policies to resolve the culture wars and build a resilient society. More noise and ranting really. Cancel culture is simply people turning off things they don’t want to hear or be part of. One shouldn’t feel threatened by that. My kids ignore me all the time.
Regarding “winning or losing wars,” I have this perspective: “No one ever wins a war, one side loses more than the other.” Again, Douglas Murray articulately explained the “losses” that all sides of this debate related to cancel culture/ “accountability.”
I am absolutely amazed that nobody has sued a calceller for slander or libel, as well as any employer who acts on a cancel, for massive damages, where the accusation is without satisfactory basis.
Imagine if a woman threw a man who said he was a woman out of a bar for feeling unsafe. There would trans activists rioting in the streets. They won't even let women say no to sharing a prison cell with a man.
@roger woodhouse Next time am in Waterstone's will ask them about this book and challenge them if they refuse to order it. Will keep you informed. As a matter of interest George Orwell was censored! Irony of ironies! He had great difficulty in getting "Animal Farm" published in 1945 because the USSR was our ally!
@@justincase6815 Someone should open a gallery dedicated to his clever digs, rebuttals and karate verbal blows. They can be written in calligraphy on the finest linen canvas, and framed in ancient English oak. I would happily volunteer my spare time to sift through his entire written and spoken output to select just a few of them.
Thank you to our host and guests. Learned a lot. Here in the Colonies, we see this daily. Certain actions (speech) government cannot censor, but their wholly-owned allies in Big Tech can do it for them with immunity.
I've said it before, I'll say it again - we are starting to see this phenomenon where the talented amateurs being benched are OUTperforming the paid "professionals" in their fields. Keep it up, guys - stay healthy, stay hungry.
I simply always enjoy listening to Douglas. I loved his last two books and learned so much from them. I especially enjoyed The Strange Death of Europe. Fascinating.
Those who question the validity and necessity of free speech need to experience the coming of a date and a time where they are denied their own speech. As in, did they think the decision about who gets to decide was always going to fall in their favor? And as to The Ichabog - no, it's not about the book, dammit - it's about her. They could care less about the book. It's the author (and her financial immunity) that is the problem.
I’ve been watching a lot of Douglas Murray recently, I’ve admittedly just discovered him since I’ve never been an academic or an intellectual, but I’ve come to majorly respect this man as a wonderfully clear voice against what’s been going on in schools and society as a whole these last 5 years. This might be his most passionate interview. I’m sure there might be one better than this but so far this is my favorite.
She's a witch to be sure I really hope the majority of Scots see through her and find a viable alternative before too much damage is done. I have a feeling it will eventually be the corruption coming to light that does for her. Follow the money.
I live in Scotland and believe all of us should "open our traps" more than ever. I would love to see the establishment thrash about in frustration as they see the futility of trying to hold all such "law breakers" to account. Good luck with that, Herr Sturgeon!
I hope some companies were more open minded in protecting individuals. It's very hard to get to talk to the support team when a complete stranger has decided to cancel me
The way to deflect an accusation of racism is to ask, "Who amongst us is not?" Allow the accuser the opportunity to DISPROVE the racism of others (they can't) or to admit that everyone is racist, thereby diluting the accusation. It's simple. To them, everyone is a witch.
Two points. Instead of "cancel culture" a better term is (probably) "modern blacklisting". People don't like that word because it's supposedly fraught with racist undertones therefore that's even more reason to use it; anything that can invoke even more phony outrage among the woke has to be a good thing. The second point is re: what Douglas says at around 4:40 in; it's true that authors have a large readership base (if they are successful enough) who will (or a big enough proportion of that base, certainly) always purchase their latest work no matter what the latest trendy controversy they are unfortunate enough to have become embroiled in is. Also tied up with this, is (for me, at any rate) the incredibly interesting phenomenon of POD (publishing on demand) and the quiet revolution that has undergone the book publishing world. Whereby successful, well-recognised authors can say what they like effectively, with little fear of censorship (although I think enough aren't aware of it) - simply because the publishing model is changing and the "gatekeepers" who are the publishing houses, publicists and editors of people's work, no longer have sufficient power to control the narrative and silence dissent from the (often wrong and frequently damaging) popular (or more properly read "politically correct") consensus. A very, very good and timely example of this was the brouhaha that ensued when Jordan Peterson's latest book came out, and it offended a veritable avalanche's worth of snowflakes. Now, the fanfare and ado did subside and I believe the publisher had to in the end acquiesce to popular demand. But the real talking point and upshot being, that Jordan Peterson had a sufficiently large and devoted readership, that he could have had he so wanted, effectively self-published through his website under the POD model. It's something to really bear in mind for authors going forward. Consider that there are many book printing press machines now available and operating in the manner of a factory workshop floor, whereby books are only printed as they are ordered. The people running these outfits would only be too pleased to have an extra ten or twenty thousand orders a week if someone like Jordan Peterson decided to bypass the regular publishing routes and channels. It's power to people, but only in the sense that Peterson, Douglas Murray and many others are true mouthpieces, and do in fact speak for the ordinary majority, the hoi polloi, and not the privileged, elitist clique who are so swift to set every agenda and shut down opposition to the "status quo" which they institute because it mostly suits their own interests, and to hell with most normal people's.
"(Communist Party) ...members and front organisations must continually embarrass, discredit and degrade our critics. When obstructionists become too irritating, label them as fascist, or Nazi,... (*or today, racist/homophobic/transphobic/islamophobic) the association will, after enough repetition, become 'fact' in the public mind." (Moscow Central Committee directive, 1943)
It actually does scare off some spam callers, especially the ones trying to cheat by asking for our bank details or social security numbers or whatever. My roommate says, "I am going to put a curse on you for trying to cheat people!" and then she starts reciting a scary-sounding poem in a little-known language. 😂 Scares them from calling again.
My elder relatives act wonderfully polite and request the phishing callers hold on a minute while they first describe their relationship with Jesus -it always works
ALL Critical Theory is based on Marxist Revolutionary philosophy, not just CRT. Every element is pernicious and intended to undermine (or "dismantle" in their own words) Western culture and democracy.
This was so interesting. Murray is so intelligent. This whole series has been encouraging, enlightening as well as some witty humour tossed in for good measure. Thank you for this. BTW - I boycott Amazon and tell people to stop using this so-called bookstore/store. I shop at local bookstores or order from a Canadian book company who uses Canada Post for delivery
The one good way to defend yourself against cancel culture is to come back with facts, or indeed, the truth , which is what the widow Ted Hughes did and essentially proved, very easily that the reason for her late husband's cancellation was completely false. The woke don't like facts. also cancelling your funding or papers that you have given to an organisation is a good idea. David Starkey has done this as he revealed in an interview he did recently with Peter Whittle where he happened to mention that after his cancellation by Cambridge he has changed his will.
Someone that did not reason their way in to a position can not be reasoned out if it. (C. Hitchens). Which leaves the question; what do we do about cancel culture.
@@markgadsby5568 Feelings are something physical and also a romantic issue AND a favourite subject of romanticist; one would not call the woke/cancel-piss anything like that?
It's like me taking my teddybear into a company and expecting folk to believe me when I say he's telling me total nonsense and it should be adhered to!!!🐻🐻🐻
I am a proud graduate of Sydney university and a member of the debating society. What it has become is shameless name calling and bereft of rigourous honest enquiry. It has slid into emotional outbursts lacking research simply seeking to silence dissent leaving the most shrill mediocore voices being repeated literally on a bull horn. They should be lampooned.
I can't get enough of Douglas Murray. He speaks in mostly plain words, but in elevated concepts. Leave it to foreign men to save America (Peterson, Murray, etc.).
We have our own gems in America - Thomas Sowell, Shelby Steele, Walter Williams....
I believe Douglass Murray will go down in history as one of the greatest thinkers of our time. Never get tired of listening to him
totally agree, I haven't stopped listening
to his podcasts since I discovered them recently. Absolutely brilliant.
The already sharp Douglas Knife is beginning to aggressively cut through the overcooked bureaucracy jargon like butter.
@@macclift9956 I think Douglas saw the Capitol incident and got 'spooked'. He is well travelled and seen a lot of serious stuff (albeit he tends to allude to it, rather than obviously reference it - his book on Bloody Sunday has examples of this). When you see certain things, that then colours the way you may view other circumstances - and the Capitol was on the surface an assault on the Western Democracy/Enlightenment values that Douglas holds dear. Chatting to the one smart person I know - we looked at the Capitol incident and thought it not much worse than some 1970s pitch invasions.
@@didinx8417 really? I looked at a year's worth of politicially sanctioned antifa/blm rioting, looting and murder throughout 2020 and thought the same thing, you evil hypocrite.
Jargon butter on righteous toast.
but the problem with people like Douglas Murray is something I have found out with my parents. I always thought of my dad as a knowledgable and a science person; after all he was a physics teacher before he retired. BOY has that opinion of me changed over the last roughly 5 years. I learned that it doesn't really matter what science says coz people will take the notion that's popular over what is truth. I let my dad show a docu where scientists debunk ALL that climate nonsense with the climate scaremongering's own data and for a minute he agreed with my point of view. I thought 'Yes, I finally made him see the light on this subject and what utter bullocks the national news is broadcasting daily. He's now gonna see the indoctrination and absolute political bias of the mainstream media'.... but that's not what happened though, after 2 weeks of daily indoctrination of the national news he was right back to his old climate religion. It was then that I realized that for him just as for the vast majority; it's not about what's actually true, it's about what is the popular opinion. Above that he still holds the news I guess in great respect, and thinks that journalism of the old days is still preformed. A few weeks ago I tried the same on all this vaccination scam and that actually doctors prove it's rather dangerous. He didn't want to hear. In not so many words he was like 'I'm retired, I don't want to think, I just want to watch the news and if the vaccination is what it takes to get me to travel, that's what I do.' He even began to be upset because when I told him that the animals of the animal trails of the predecessor vaccine all died he didn't want to hear. I guess my dad has to figure out the hard way coz.... this is not something of an opinion on the news, this is something he let stuff in his own body, unfortunately.
@@stijnvdv2 Just be thankful that he loves you. Probably.
“Murder is something which ought to count against a chap” - haha, love Douglas’s wry turns of phrase
Douglas is a hero of our times. Long may he continue.
Here in California it’s even beginning to effect everyday workers. My husband works in water and sanitation. And he is forced to attend meetings on diversity and inclusion. Including videos on sexualy divergent acts and the like. Which has absolutely nothing to do with utilities! It takes time away from him actually fixing pipes and providing water to the community. He is of a minority race and stands up to this crap. He informs them that he won’t be a puppet and not to include him in racial victimhood.
Good for him! Good to hear of people standing up to this dangerous nonsense wherever they are.
Well done! I am mixed race, so I'm visibly "other," and if one more person tries to rope me into any kind of woke nonsense based on the colour of my skin/gender/whatever the heck, I am going to start carrying around a wet fish to slap them upside the head. 😄
Sounds like China, where professors waste a day each week going to inane meetings on communism and the party.
It's enough to drive you mad good on your husband!!!
worked for wells fargo the same BS but worse. Back in 2014. Noth Carolina. So that you understand it has nothing to do with California
Never get bored of listening to Douglas.
If you do, that’s a symptom of a possible neuro degenerative disease at its early stage
@@jimmy2k4o you love Douglas. 😍😂
Never ever!
Is that an instruction...
I think we might have a successor (albeit on the other side) to... and I don't tap this lightly:
Christopher Hitchins...
AmIClose?
I don't believe it's possible to.
“It’s going to decolonize its collection of instruments!” 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
I haven’t stopped laughing for several minutes, but the point is so important. Don’t apologize, don’t accept this - fight wherever you are.
There’s no place for racial violins in our society
This eloquent, humorous, artistic type of speech, which doesn't hesitate to use poetic language in order to grasp the real phenomena at hand, but stays constantly to the point and doesn't wander off for a second: this is what we know from Douglas Murray, what is left of the great style of previous thinkers, and what is unfortunately fading away and becoming a rarity in this world where shouting, anger and aggression take the place of clear and honest speech. Thank you, for keeping the light on this darkness!
I'm sorry, but I strongly disagree. He is using lies and opioniated faff to prove his points to an audiance that isn't disagreeing with him for they (The Danube Institute) are essentially center right as is Doug...
Douglas Murray's hilarious takedown of the Cambridge Vice Chancellor was golden
Yes, a small man in a very big job.
Timestamp for that please?
@@Monolith1984 The less power a man has, the more often he "needs" to (ab)use it..
Indeed @22.03 "Sub literates of the British library".....My God, when he gets going, he sure does get going.
Interestingly enough, I just learned today that Mr. Toope announced a couple days ago, that he is stepping down as VC of Cambridge.
Oh my god - I want to thank Douglas’s parents and tutors for giving us this man and developing his talent - Thankyou. Dickensian Mr Toope raising eyebrow saga, raise every eyebrow at mr Toope, Sub literates at the library 😂😂😂, social sciences are neither social or sciences and at worst are a highly political missiles aimed at society. Douglas is a total legend
One of my favourite quotes from Douglas is him de-bunking Sam Smith's attention seeking behaviour during the Covid pandemic: "He came out as 'look at me'."
Love you Douglass and now even more. What a realist- you never win but you dont loose and always have hope
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Douglas is so consistently insightful. So glad to be alive while he is sharing wisdom.
There are others too, thank goodness.
Another person to listen to is Thomas Sowell.
@@hughmuir3063 Thanks I will listen to him.
@@hughmuir3063 Lol. Okay. High Priest Sowell says to sacrifice the disabled and unwell to the greater good of our almighty capitalism. Boot straps or boot heels,(boothills). Greed is virtuous, sharing is shameful. When you help you actually hurt. So says High Priest Sowell in the name of devine capitalism. All bow down and praise money. Amen
@@andrewgroleau5805 Mind quoting him directly to substantiate these claims. I'd be really interested to see you defend this position using Sowell own words.
The words “Two insincere groups of actors” is one of the best and truest sentences I have heard spoken.
I definitely enjoyed it
Yes indeed😁
Why? I mean, can you elaborate a bit more, please?
Douglas has a clarity that makes you sit back and say why couldn't I see that. " You never win" especially when you never take the language back from those who pervert it for their gain .
I respect Murray more and more
Could you say why? For I actually researched his claims (Look above) and they are down right wrong and heavily exagerated...
Magnificent. Thank heavens these conversations are still happening.
"... This requires years of research by these sub- literates at the British Library" ... I love Douglas Murray 😆
High intellect, high integrity, and always high road. Never bitchy, never ugly - noble.
quite bitchy, at times. arrogant and snobby about social status and intellect. but many good points. shame about the descending into petty hatred and polarising the issues, as everyone does, on all sides of the argument, disappointing but not surprising
@@eva-imogenewharehoka2299 look what you do to people.
@@thememeoverlord.1949 look at what I do to people? by having a conversation? intersting.. ok then (and by the way,being aware of my effect on others is part of my ethics, but I do't feel bad about expressing my view, politely, on a social media thread.) thanks , though.. please also do as you have said. cheerio
@@eva-imogenewharehoka2299 Is he snobby because he judges people by their intellectual and professional attainments, rather than their standing in the Oppression Olympics? We need far more people in universities who judge their colleagues by the former criteria instead of the latter.
@@lawyerup2280 how is Dean Moriarty?
I'm a Cambridge alumna and I've loathed the self-aggrandizing nitwit Stephen Toope since his early days as VC. The amount of emails we get from the alumni office containing egocentric videos of Toope is nauseating. Can't they use university resources for more worthy projects? I find him rather creepy. I'm so pleased Douglas Murray has publicly lambasted him. Can we please cancel Toope?
Douglas reminds me of the brilliant Christopher Hitchens. Thank goodness for Douglas.
The angrier he gets, the funnier he becomes.
The National Trust has succumbed to the same influences as the British Library resulting in NT members withdrawing their membership which has left the Trust financially challenged.
I cancelled mine
Good.
Very good. It's time for them to face the reality.
Go woke, go broke, as they say
May They Piss Blood
I so like this guy, he is able to articulate what so many of us are thinking and feeling.
and in the best possible way.
I love DM’s “take no prisoners” approach.
Nietzsche sums these people up perfectly.
"For let’s admire the skilful counterfeiting with which people here imitate the trademarks of virtue, even its resounding tinkle, the golden sound of virtue. They have now taken a lease on virtue entirely for themselves, these weak and hopeless invalids-there’s no doubt about that: “We alone are the good men, the just men”- that’s how they speak: “We alone are the homines bonae voluntatis [men of good will].”
They wander around among us like personifications of reproach, like warnings to us-as if health, success, strength, pride, and a feeling of power were already inherently depraved things, for which people must atone some day, atone bitterly. O how ready they themselves basically are to make people atone, how they thirst to be hangmen! Among them there are plenty of people disguised as judges seeking revenge. They always have the word “Justice” in their mouths, like poisonous saliva, with their mouths always pursed, always ready to spit at anything which does not look discontented and goes on its way in good spirits. Among them there is no lack of that most disgusting species of vain people, the lying monsters who aim to present themselves as “beautiful souls” and who, for example, carry off to market their ruined sensuality, wrapped up in verse and other swaddling clothes, as “purity of heart,” the species of self-gratifying moral masturbators. The desire of sick people to present some form or other of superiority, their instinct for secret paths leading to a tyranny over the healthy-where can we not find it, this very will to power of the weakest people!" - Nietzsche, Genealogy of Morals
That's an example,and a warning, of how nothing changes in human interactions..
If there are imitations of virtue, then what is virtue? Is it "health, success, strength, pride, and a feeling of power"?
Nietzsche calls out the lie, but that is always the easier task.
I'm going to learn this off by heart and recite it at dinner parties.
Cheers :)
An outstanding quote. It would probably sound even harsher in the original Klingon....
the stupidity of some of the people running those institutions, not to mention politicians, is simply mind-boggling! How did people suddenly become such cowards incapable of expressing their own opinions and yielding to social pressure?
Bravo! Gentlemen, thank you for this candid and prolific discussion. It should be required viewing in every US classroom from the age of 13 and up. The issues raised and answers discussed provide a clearer pathway forward towards redressing our failing institutions and governments. Mr. Murray, thank you for continuing to illuminate with razor sharp acuity why conservatism matters, we owe you a great debt.
Oh my: The scene Douglas shares of his colleague Melanie McDunagh is absolutely brilliant. In our day replete with serpents, we are to be wiser than serpents….
And innocent as doves.
Thank you Douglas very much.
“What will it take to win? A bit of backbone.” Bloody oath, Douglas. As long as those people can risk what it takes to show that backbone. Who holds the power?
Wow - that was good!!!!! Douglas is just sublime. Love the thought of the KKK gathering by library bookshelves.
Stable fairy. Did you ever read his Spectator article about cancel culture in which he linked the removal of harpsichords at the British music museum with the death of George Floyd? I was crying😂
Let's just call this mass capitulation to far left ideologues what it is- cowardice. Like all bullys, they will crawl back to their hole the minute you go back at them. Every time you give in it validates them. Stand strong!
Whereas right-wing idiologies will carpet bomb entire nations and bully them into submission.
They are cowards, absolutely. There are simple questions to ask that would invalidate their arguments. But they will not engage! 🤷🏻♂️ they will cast aspersions and attack people outright. But when calling names so to speak is your first response it just shows how paper thin their arguments are. 🤷🏻♂️
I'm a simple man.
I see Douglas Murray in the thumbnail and I click the video.
Once again, I'm not disappointed; only left wishing that the video was 5 hours not 1.
Deeply grateful for your insights as your razor blade intellect, helps remove the weight of distortions mirrored back to us by cancel culture.
Not to lessen Mr. Murray's impact but it's sad when the most brilliant thinkers of our time are just people who have common sense
I'm sure he would be doing far better things with his time if this wasn't such a threat to society as a whole.
In the Chinese city of Nanking, there is a statue of one Dr. John Rabe, ambassador from Germany. He is remembered there in a similar way as Oskar Schindler, in his protection of innocents (in Rabe's case, Chinese) against the depredations of the invading Japanese.
His party affiliation is exactly what you'd expect of a German official in 1937.
Wondering why these critics of Cancel Culture haven't come out against the attempts to criminalize Ben & Jerry's decision to not sell ice cream in the West Bank.
"He didn't quite say the dog had eaten his stupid survey, but he [MR TOOP] got as close as you could get" - marvellous Murray.
Thank you guys. I've been suffering from acute anxiety and trauma because some people have been targeting me to cancel me. I appreciate your openness in talking about this subject 😊
Thank you for your wisdom and reason, Douglas. It makes life easier and the world saner. You don't fail to entartain us with your exquisite sense of humour and joy. This is priceless.
Undoubted excellence from Douglas Murray.
Douglas Murray,a man that always talks sense.
I have so much respect for Douglas, truth and strength while telling it.
A leading light in a dimming world thanks Douglas
Hmm... so there's a gap in the market now for bookshops that sell 'forbidden' titles.... 🤔
You're racist
I might be tempted to call that a wonderful opportunity . . .
No-one here seems to have remarked upon Douglas' _actual_ eyebrow raising skills, which he did with perfect timing in this video. I find it difficult so will have to practice, perhaps a Cambridge based course would be popular..
What a bloody basket case this Country has become. Thank God for people like Douglas; shedding light on an idiotic darkness
Brilliant. Well put. Bugger off Mr Toop
About Slave owners "There is a founder of a very major world religion who was a slave owner fortunately there aren't statues to him or indeed cartoons. It is one of the examples I sometimes give to remind people that you don't want to run this juggernaut all the way..."
Fun fact: slavery is endorsed and never criticised in the Bible. Can we cancel the Bible ( or at least those bits )
There's not many things as refreshing and inspiring than listening to Douglas Murray. I love how sharp and blunt he is.
I wish all conservatives could learn how to speak reason the way he does. Bravo
I think the charge of racism should be "libelous per se" which in the law would mean it is presumed to be defamatory and the burden would be on the defendant to prove the charge is true, otherwise they have defamed the person and they are liable for presumed damages (usually $25,000)
Douglas is simply amazing. I could listen to him endlessly. His logic is granite-like. Keep it rolling good sir.
Douglas is like the eye of the storm, calmly reassuring whilst all around is wreckage and mayhem,
Brilliant as allways Douglas bless your mum and dad for bringing you into this world god knows it needs you.
I love Douglas Murray because, whilst he describes perfectly the tyranny and hegemony of the modern Left, he doesn't wallow in self-pity, and nor does he shy away from the hardest and most sacred questions. For example, on the issue of the statue of the Confederate slaver, Alexander Stephens, outside that Jacksonville courthouse, it would've been easy for Murray to say "Well of course, in *that* case..." Instead he reasserted the principle of states rights and autonomy for the people of Jacksonville to decide for themselves what statues and relics they have standing. This refusal to give an inch to the Left to bolster his credentials as a Good Guy is what gives Murray such an indomitable and convincing presence. Most of us are tempted to indulge the polite lies, half truths and poor arguments of the liberal Left - at least on some sensitive issues - for an easy life, but not Murray. And, moreover, his calls to action, on an institutional level, are refreshing when so many on the Right cower in the teeth of Silicon Valley, elite universities, the legacy media and twitter mobs.
Agreed to. both points!
Superb comment, IMO. Thank you for posting.
He does not present a very balanced review of the right wing cultural hegemony of the US and UK populist politics. Unfortunately all democratic politics has degenerated into a morass of unidentifiable schisms that ultimately protect the unequal private wealth of the minority over the greater good of society. In all of his writing there seems to be little substance in terms if operational policies to resolve the culture wars and build a resilient society. More noise and ranting really. Cancel culture is simply people turning off things they don’t want to hear or be part of. One shouldn’t feel threatened by that. My kids ignore me all the time.
What a star Douglas is
Regarding “winning or losing wars,” I have this perspective: “No one ever wins a war, one side loses more than the other.” Again, Douglas Murray articulately explained the “losses” that all sides of this debate related to cancel culture/ “accountability.”
To engage in war is to admit defeat of diplomacy.
@@BassGoThump What a great line, I like it. Simple but oh so true.
I am absolutely amazed that nobody has sued a calceller for slander or libel, as well as any employer who acts on a cancel, for massive damages, where the accusation is without satisfactory basis.
Imagine if a woman threw a man who said he was a woman out of a bar for feeling unsafe. There would trans activists rioting in the streets. They won't even let women say no to sharing a prison cell with a man.
Indeed........a man who has been convicted of sex crimes against women no less! Society is sick.
I love your work.
I can’t believe the Royal Academy of Music can contemplate getting rid of musical instruments. Taliban?
Murray is getting better and better.
This is the modern-day equivalent of the Salem Witch Trials and McCarthyist blacklisting.
Sounds like a babylon bee headline: Cambridge Vice Chancellor Raises Eyebrows with Attempt to Ban Raising Eyebrows
Intelligent and with common sense - Mr Murray
I will not use Amazon. Waterstone's give an excellent service and if they do not have the book I require then they will order it in. No censorship.
What?Even 'Enemy of the state' by Tommy Robinson? .They never offerred me that alternative when I asked for it.
@roger woodhouse Next time am in Waterstone's will ask them about this book and challenge them if they refuse to order it.
Will keep you informed. As a matter of interest George Orwell was censored! Irony of ironies! He had great difficulty in getting "Animal Farm" published in 1945 because the USSR was our ally!
@@maryhook9478 Thank you !
@@rogerwoodhouse7945 Amazon UK are selling it for £11 paperback and £9.99 kindle. Wasn't that hard to find.
@@rogerwoodhouse7945 You are welcome, it might be sometime before I next visit Waterstone's but I will not forget.
'Fortunately there aren't statues to him, or indeed cartoons...' saw what you did there Douglas!
That was a clever dig. The best kind of dig!
@@justincase6815 Someone should open a gallery dedicated to his clever digs, rebuttals and karate verbal blows. They can be written in calligraphy on the finest linen canvas, and framed in ancient English oak. I would happily volunteer my spare time to sift through his entire written and spoken output to select just a few of them.
Yes, but he wasn't being truly honest was he?
@@anthonygriff668 I believe he was being facetious. And perhaps he was daring some brave soul to publish a cartoon.
@@baltasarnoreno5973 Yes, I know what he was being. I was being the same myself but it doesn't come across well on the written page.
Douglas Murray is right on .
If I had to move from the UK, Hungary would probably be my first choice. Good discussion!
Thank you to our host and guests. Learned a lot. Here in the Colonies, we see this daily. Certain actions (speech) government cannot censor, but their wholly-owned allies in Big Tech can do it for them with immunity.
If we go to alternative media we remove their power. I hope this is on bitchute or odessey. If not it should be.
Hope to see Douglas soon in Budapest!
Is he coming really? I am there
I've said it before, I'll say it again - we are starting to see this phenomenon where the talented amateurs being benched are OUTperforming the paid "professionals" in their fields. Keep it up, guys - stay healthy, stay hungry.
I’ve decided to reintroduce ‘ignoramus’ into my vocabulary.
Ignore-they-must 😆
I've decided to tell people that they have a "Dickensian name".
A term you'd find appropriate every day on Social Media. :-(
Well articulated and thought through.. Enjoy this man a great deal..
I simply always enjoy listening to Douglas. I loved his last two books and learned so much from them. I especially enjoyed The Strange Death of Europe. Fascinating.
Those who question the validity and necessity of free speech need to experience the coming of a date and a time where they are denied their own speech. As in, did they think the decision about who gets to decide was always going to fall in their favor?
And as to The Ichabog - no, it's not about the book, dammit - it's about her. They could care less about the book. It's the author (and her financial immunity) that is the problem.
It's her financial immunity that irks them the most and the fact that peeps like me will continue to buy her books whether they interest me or not.
I’ve been watching a lot of Douglas Murray recently, I’ve admittedly just discovered him since I’ve never been an academic or an intellectual, but I’ve come to majorly respect this man as a wonderfully clear voice against what’s been going on in schools and society as a whole these last 5 years. This might be his most passionate interview. I’m sure there might be one better than this but so far this is my favorite.
If we decolonize history, does this mean Britain has to be depopulated, completely?
Douglas is as sharp as ever.
I'm not famous I'm terrified I'll end up in the jail for opening my trap
We're more likely to face financial ruin with all the vagaries that brings. Unless you live in Scotland in which case take care.
@@annetteannette9205 unfortunately I'm in Scotland and Sturgeon/Hitler is going to have us in the dark ages shortly
She's a witch to be sure I really hope the majority of Scots see through her and find a viable alternative before too much damage is done. I have a feeling it will eventually be the corruption coming to light that does for her. Follow the money.
I live in Scotland and believe all of us should "open our traps" more than ever. I would love to see the establishment thrash about in frustration as they see the futility of trying to hold all such "law breakers" to account. Good luck with that, Herr Sturgeon!
@@yvonnehayton6753 Well said.
“Lesbian basketweaving” - I love it!
“This life isn’t really for you”. 🤣🤣🤣
I like how he ended the interview:
W silence is violence but blm violence isn't violence. That says a lot about this new trend that is taking place.
I hope some companies were more open minded in protecting individuals. It's very hard to get to talk to the support team when a complete stranger has decided to cancel me
Many thanks for this wonderful and interesting taking event!
yes contempt and attempts to ridicule are the right answer to this flood of madness
The way to deflect an accusation of racism is to ask, "Who amongst us is not?" Allow the accuser the opportunity to DISPROVE the racism of others (they can't) or to admit that everyone is racist, thereby diluting the accusation.
It's simple. To them, everyone is a witch.
Two points. Instead of "cancel culture" a better term is (probably) "modern blacklisting". People don't like that word because it's supposedly fraught with racist undertones therefore that's even more reason to use it; anything that can invoke even more phony outrage among the woke has to be a good thing. The second point is re: what Douglas says at around 4:40 in; it's true that authors have a large readership base (if they are successful enough) who will (or a big enough proportion of that base, certainly) always purchase their latest work no matter what the latest trendy controversy they are unfortunate enough to have become embroiled in is. Also tied up with this, is (for me, at any rate) the incredibly interesting phenomenon of POD (publishing on demand) and the quiet revolution that has undergone the book publishing world. Whereby successful, well-recognised authors can say what they like effectively, with little fear of censorship (although I think enough aren't aware of it) - simply because the publishing model is changing and the "gatekeepers" who are the publishing houses, publicists and editors of people's work, no longer have sufficient power to control the narrative and silence dissent from the (often wrong and frequently damaging) popular (or more properly read "politically correct") consensus. A very, very good and timely example of this was the brouhaha that ensued when Jordan Peterson's latest book came out, and it offended a veritable avalanche's worth of snowflakes. Now, the fanfare and ado did subside and I believe the publisher had to in the end acquiesce to popular demand. But the real talking point and upshot being, that Jordan Peterson had a sufficiently large and devoted readership, that he could have had he so wanted, effectively self-published through his website under the POD model. It's something to really bear in mind for authors going forward. Consider that there are many book printing press machines now available and operating in the manner of a factory workshop floor, whereby books are only printed as they are ordered. The people running these outfits would only be too pleased to have an extra ten or twenty thousand orders a week if someone like Jordan Peterson decided to bypass the regular publishing routes and channels. It's power to people, but only in the sense that Peterson, Douglas Murray and many others are true mouthpieces, and do in fact speak for the ordinary majority, the hoi polloi,
and not the privileged, elitist clique who are so swift to set every agenda and shut down opposition to the "status quo" which they institute because it mostly suits their own interests, and to hell with most normal people's.
"(Communist Party) ...members and front organisations must continually embarrass, discredit and degrade our critics. When obstructionists become too irritating, label them as fascist, or Nazi,... (*or today, racist/homophobic/transphobic/islamophobic) the association will, after enough repetition, become 'fact' in the public mind." (Moscow Central Committee directive, 1943)
You shouldn't diss voodoo. It's about the only tool we've got left to fight the insanity.
It actually does scare off some spam callers, especially the ones trying to cheat by asking for our bank details or social security numbers or whatever. My roommate says, "I am going to put a curse on you for trying to cheat people!" and then she starts reciting a scary-sounding poem in a little-known language. 😂 Scares them from calling again.
My elder relatives act wonderfully polite and request the phishing callers hold on a minute while they first describe their relationship with Jesus -it always works
The state can tell schools not to teach religion. Why can it not forbid schools from teaching CRT?
Because the state agrees with the schools???
ALL Critical Theory is based on Marxist Revolutionary philosophy, not just CRT. Every element is pernicious and intended to undermine (or "dismantle" in their own words) Western culture and democracy.
Not just CRT but ANY aspect of Critical Theory.
Accountability culture is a frame for condescending all dissent.
This was so interesting. Murray is so intelligent. This whole series has been encouraging, enlightening as well as some witty humour tossed in for good measure. Thank you for this. BTW - I boycott Amazon and tell people to stop using this so-called bookstore/store. I shop at local bookstores or order from a Canadian book company who uses Canada Post for delivery
The one good way to defend yourself against cancel culture is to come back with facts, or indeed, the truth , which is what the widow Ted Hughes did and essentially proved, very easily that the reason for her late husband's cancellation was completely false. The woke don't like facts. also cancelling your funding or papers that you have given to an organisation is a good idea. David Starkey has done this as he revealed in an interview he did recently with Peter Whittle where he happened to mention that after his cancellation by Cambridge he has changed his will.
Someone that did not reason their way in to a position can not be reasoned out if it. (C. Hitchens). Which leaves the question; what do we do about cancel culture.
You cannot argue with feelings. This is the problem. The Left purposely subvert reason and logic.
David "too many damn blacks" Starkey was unfairly cancelled?😆
@@markgadsby5568 Feelings are something physical and also a romantic issue AND a favourite subject of romanticist; one would not call the woke/cancel-piss anything like that?
It's like me taking my teddybear into a company and expecting folk to believe me when I say he's telling me total nonsense and it should be adhered to!!!🐻🐻🐻
Gasp! Are you assuming that bear's gender!?
I am a proud graduate of Sydney university and a member of the debating society. What it has become is shameless name calling and bereft of rigourous honest enquiry. It has slid into emotional outbursts lacking research simply seeking to silence dissent leaving the most shrill mediocore voices being repeated literally on a bull horn. They should be lampooned.
Brilliant as always. I can see why some say Douglas Murray is the new Christopher Hitchens.
Great discussion. Thank you.
Brilliant!
Scruton Miss you, true gentleman
What a great discussion. Thankfully for Douglas, and us, the world is an unmitigated mess so he'll never run out of pearls to clutch.
Too many teeth on that one.
I know nothing of this channel but it was a pleasant surprise to hear one you guys lives here in Jax lol