All You Need to Know to Fix the 7.3L PSD T444E Engine incl CPS, IPR, ICP, FPR, etc.

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  • Summary of the most common problems w/ the 7.3L powerstroke diesel (ford/navistar) - a '99 t444e in an International 3800 (school bus) in this case. Follow our travels and skoolie conversion here: / tribixbite
    This video covers what you need to buy & how to diagnose & repair a no-start & issues involving fuel pressure, cam position sensor (cps), injection pressure regulator (ipr), injection control pressure (icp), and more. Your problem most likely is limited to one of these components; I'm not suggesting you swap out all these parts, I just thought a summary video would be nice to have on YT. Cheers.
    NOTE: I had never touched a diesel engine until last week so let me know what I missed in the comments.

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  • @FAD75
    @FAD75 6 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    That was the most short, sweet and amazingly still very clear and detailed rundown of troubleshooting a 7.3 that Ive yet to see. And ive seen a whole lot of them. Way to go dude, this is a "every owner or individual who works on a 7.3 should be required to watch this first "video.

  • @ThePyrateJim
    @ThePyrateJim ปีที่แล้ว

    I use your video every time I need to troubleshoot my 2000 t444e! Today your comment about checking the pre-filter (upstream from the fuel filter) led me to find a piece of something stuck in mine. Pulled it out and my bus runs without smoke in the exhaust!!! You saved my hundreds in diagnostics!

  • @deanbenson6879
    @deanbenson6879 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Covered a lot of good points, common problems (man, they must not have maintained yours at all!) I have a '96 7.3 with 263k..bought new and haven't had moßt of the problems you recount. I am an ASE cert. Diesel Bus master tech (retired x3) and have had some of those issues while maintaining a fleet of 27 busses, for 18 yrs. Still one helluva lot less problems than a B series Cummins, or God forbid, ANYTHING GMC has come out that burbs DIESEL!!

    • @JewishBanker420
      @JewishBanker420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So what is the very most dependable diesel buses out there?

  • @photohfl
    @photohfl 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I seriously just want to thank you... im self employed and doing a lot of self taught. this video helped me out big time... thanks again bud cheers

  • @solutionsdavid614
    @solutionsdavid614 9 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This is by far the best video working on any 7.3 from ford 250 350 450 and excursions.. the view and angle u shot it being on a bus is the very best. The 7.3 is all the way across and same exact problems but minor fixes are better then engine replacements on gas cars. U rock

    • @bryanmartinez6600
      @bryanmartinez6600 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thedavidibarra papi 7.3 and 5.9 are kings among the diesels and if only Ford F Series had as much room to work with as that bus

    • @doc4urcomputer
      @doc4urcomputer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The e350s are a bugger because everything is so damn tight!

  • @chrisgarringer9133
    @chrisgarringer9133 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is the most time effective, To the point(s) video I've seen in a long while. Good show!!

  • @williefufu2985
    @williefufu2985 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    My motor is slightly different from yours, your advice helped me a lot, my Engine light is now off after I was able to locate and change out the ICP Sensor. I Prayed to the God in Heaven about
    this one. At International, the cost of the ICP sensor was probably almost three hundred dollars or close to two hundred dollars and was under $30 on eBay or Amazon, which made me question the quality and durability of my less expensive part, its been a few years and the part has held up.

  • @georgegrundeman7509
    @georgegrundeman7509 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    thats a really handy tool and work bench. I'm takin all my tools out to the curb

  • @danielengland2333
    @danielengland2333 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    thanks a ton man. been trying to figure out where that stupid glow plug relay for days... by far most informative video online. thanks again!

  • @thanedavis1273
    @thanedavis1273 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You have a big advantage over us pickup owners. You can tip that engine hood forward and get to the engine easily. For pickups, everything is buried under all sorts of lines.

    • @doc4urcomputer
      @doc4urcomputer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You should try working on that 7.3 in an Econoline van!

    • @notajp
      @notajp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Try working on the engine in a shuttle bus!

  • @poppyhasty6286
    @poppyhasty6286 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the video. Learned a lot. I have the same bus. Warning lights, buzzers, everything but a gong goes off. Gages show low oil pressure and overheating. Plenty of oil, water level is fine and not too hot. I love my bus. It is a '99 with only 112K miles! Unfortunately, I had a diesel mechanic who was supposed to be an expert on Powerstroke engines. After screwing me around for a couple of months, told me that it was ready to pick up. Got it home, parked it for three days. Went out and it wouldn't start. Called him... he skipped town. Again, unfortunately, I am not mechanically inclined, but there is enough videos and info online that I believe I can do most anything I have to .
    Thanks again for the video.
    Poppy

  • @dewaynetoogood5985
    @dewaynetoogood5985 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great vid! I used your vid to do preventative maintenance before my road trip from
    Phoenix to KY. Changed oil, ICP, CPS, IPR, Glow plug solenoid, coolant filter all good parts but I wanted no failures on the road and extra known good parts just in case. Great job thumbs up!!!!

  • @gregbartmess3538
    @gregbartmess3538 9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Awesome video! Thanks for putting this together and posting it online!

  • @graphene1487
    @graphene1487 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was an incredibly informative video man. Like mandatory reading type stuff. Bravo!

  • @gaedikus
    @gaedikus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you, from 2020. This is so helpful to me, I recently found a nice little oil puddle under my engine, so i'm here now lol, this is going to be so helpful going forward, thank you so much!

  • @timmasincupp6760
    @timmasincupp6760 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    BRAVO!!!! Very well done and no time wasted on "I'm so cool". smart mechanics are few.

    • @kenwilliams5281
      @kenwilliams5281 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tim Masincupp
      Tim my name is Ken I am having a serious problem with my 4700 I I I I have a international 2000 engine 7.3 T444E Roback flatbedIt takes off really great and as it gets 30 mph starts to slow down and lose compression or power inter-national dealer tells me I need A Nother motor but the problem just started happening out of nowhere
      I am in need of some serious advice!!

    • @kenwilliams5281
      @kenwilliams5281 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      If anyone else have had this problem with is 7.3 international motor losing power after take off please reply

    • @JohnMartin-sg9ku
      @JohnMartin-sg9ku 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kenwilliams5281 what ever happened with your problem Ken?

    • @mrbmd710
      @mrbmd710 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe it’s the transmission

  • @johnimmke3148
    @johnimmke3148 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great Video. Hopefully this will help with my BUS being sluggish when starting up a hill from a stop. Took it for a spin today and it wouldn't go over 10 MPH up the hill.

    • @deanbenson6879
      @deanbenson6879 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check fuel filter first, then lift pump

  • @rogerdinarte6531
    @rogerdinarte6531 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow you did great. I am about to get one of this buses. Learned a lot and very helpful. Thanks for the vid and all info

  • @unclevroomvroom
    @unclevroomvroom 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Great video! Lots of great information. Thanks! OK, breathe...

  • @christyssimplelife3916
    @christyssimplelife3916 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just got the exact same bus at a auction... and I see you have 2 batteries mine only had one! Great video

    • @doc4urcomputer
      @doc4urcomputer 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      All 7.3's to my knowledge have two batteries. My 95 has two batteries in the engine compartment but the 2003 has one hidden down on the rail frame/rail. There's a decal in the engine compartment I found after I did a little cleaning

  • @carloslarry5660
    @carloslarry5660 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you Will, great info an a bunch of parts and topics for this engine!

  • @harveynailbanger
    @harveynailbanger 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    A other no start issue is a shorted fuel heater in the fuel bowl. It blows the 30 amp fuse that also powers other fuel system components...
    An easy indicator is absence of a wait to start light when trying to start....

  • @akquicksilver
    @akquicksilver 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You definitely want to refill the HPOP reservoir. It is common to the engine oil, but don't count on the oil being replenished. There is almost no cirulation from the engine block. I opened my 2000 superduty reservoir and after 100,000 miles of regular oil/filter changes, the oil in the reservoir was like mud. It should be pumped out and refilled when you change your engine oil. Fortunately I discovered this before my injectors were ruined. Their is nothing about this in the Ford truck manual or even in a Chilton repair manual.

    • @mrbmd710
      @mrbmd710 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Even if you don’t believe it, do it as it’s cheap insurance.

    • @samuelyi9189
      @samuelyi9189 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      JB Marker uh. Your low pressure oil pump pumps oil to the reservoir where the hpop uses the oil and is flowed through the injectors and back down. It has a huge part of oil circulation....

  • @thruthaseen.9892
    @thruthaseen.9892 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for making this video does not a lot of videos concerning this motor in absolutely nailed everything from a newbie at like me new to these type of Motors to know what you go and check for first without dealing with slime balls and greedy people wanting money for things they don't even now

  • @PatrickBaptist
    @PatrickBaptist 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    LOL, I loved the part where you said it works better if you use the same year vehicle LOL.

  • @Skyvisiontube
    @Skyvisiontube 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the same bus motor- I had the fuel pump go bad twice, and the serpentine belt tensioner broke (easy fix) and the glow plugs were bad...but that only matters in cold weather. With theses big things it's better to fix in the driveway than on the highway...

  • @twob850
    @twob850 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I may be soon to set foot in the Diesel world with a T444E in a bus/camper conversion.. This was great information! Much appreciated! If it happens I will be buying one of each of those parts and the tools you described, that I don't already have.

  • @8574944ggayle
    @8574944ggayle 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks will stone did the icp two weeks ago I have the ipr and cam shaft in hand didnt know about the frp sensor but will look into it two thumbs up.

  • @ericknoll3278
    @ericknoll3278 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Do you do caffeine introveniously

  • @evanb0869
    @evanb0869 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where the oil filter located on this truck. I looked all over engine and thought it was the water oversteer at first until I wiped it down and saw it said coolant filter on it. My 2001 which is identical to this has been nothing but a nightmare and my tow costs have been killing me. Had to change the fuel pump 3 times before I got one that finally worked and haven’t had issues with it since.

  • @askmehowiknow3571
    @askmehowiknow3571 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Best video for the 7.3

  • @enigmaticnomadics
    @enigmaticnomadics ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a way of contacting you with a quick question about the 444e? Mine is dying when it's warmed up and put into gear. Replaced or serviced: ICP, IPR, CPS, H-pop, fuel pump. Probably stuff I'm forgetting.
    I'm getting code 42 from the scanguageD I bought that you suggested. Cleaned all the fuel lines, replaced the fuel filter, and inspected fuel tank, fuel pressure regulator, screen, bowl, and added a supplemental fuel pressure at the tank. It starts right up, just won't run under load once it warms up. Great Vid!

    • @WillStone
      @WillStone  ปีที่แล้ว

      sorry I missed this, you get sorted?

    • @michealsimmons-s4t
      @michealsimmons-s4t 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@WillStone I don't have wait to start light or crank

  • @sidd5938
    @sidd5938 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    mororhead, true that the glowplugs will ignite starting fluid and blow up your engine, possibly... but in warm weather the 7.3 will stat and run with a bad relay, although it takes a minute for sure. I had thick oil in the 7.3 bus I bought, and the guy sold it to me cheap because it had a hard time starting. I changed my oil to a synthetic 5-40 and not it starts almost immediately. just my experience...

    • @Fatalimit
      @Fatalimit 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the newer style pistons don't like either and if you have to use either most either now is such low % of either just give it a sniff after you have pulled the relay or fuse for the glowplugs so they aren't hot but unless its below 50 degree's a 7.3 will fire up with out them it won't like it and may take a min to light all the holes but it will light but on these newer diesels either has been known to crack pistons in most cases because people using too much but still not worth it plus block heat is another option

  • @spudth
    @spudth 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Don't forget the wiring issues and the IDM failures?

  • @grostig
    @grostig 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You mention you got engine codes, but did you also get the "Check Engine" light, or was the only indication of a problem derived from the scan tool (and the problems running and starting).?

  • @doorguner01
    @doorguner01 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    what brand or model is that code reader i need to buy one

  • @noexpert65
    @noexpert65 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just bought a 2000 Bluebird School bus... picked it up in Mississippi yesterday and drove it 500 miles. Everything seemed to be going well till about 300 miles into the trip. Stopped at a rest stop and when started the bus up again got oil/water warning lights. Oil check was good water was almost empty but no obvious leaks on the ground. Let it cool and put 4 gals of water in and drove it the rest of the way. Got home and checked the water... very low level. No water in the oil but noticed a leak on top of the motor towards the back ... explains why the floor area around the front of the cab was slippery, kind of oily. Any ideas where to start?

    • @roaddiablo
      @roaddiablo 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mike & Cindy Jones, Realtors heater core.

  • @stebo211
    @stebo211 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thanks for sharing the video have a question where do you pick up that solenoid for $18 at?

  • @williefufu2985
    @williefufu2985 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I guess being so interested in that Bus Motor, I didn't really focus on your Nose, uh, I just wanted to know the common problems with The Engine. Good Video, very informative.

  • @dmmechanic5358
    @dmmechanic5358 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sir.what is the firing order that bus and how inch.or mm valve clearance?

  • @poncholee3183
    @poncholee3183 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What style air filter in there? Is it a big round hole or does it have like a neck on it with smaller hole

  • @alexissantoslife9445
    @alexissantoslife9445 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the video
    My 7.3 does not want to accelerate on 4th 5th and 6th gear and it won't go past 45 mph

  • @finnegus1995
    @finnegus1995 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    So i have a 96 int 3800 bus with t444e and i cannot find the separator. have you ever seen them in strange places? ive traced down the framerail and i dont see it anywhere where i see fuel lines. i have a service panel inside the bus, could it be under there?

  • @liljj23able
    @liljj23able 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m having a no start issue after changing icp and IPR truck was fine before any suggestions? It sound like it’s not getting fuel .

  • @veronicastewart1959
    @veronicastewart1959 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you please show how and where the computer hook up is !!! I would be so thankful !!! Great video by the way !! Just got my bus and I'm wanting to get all info I can get and learn !!!

  • @jerrywayne578
    @jerrywayne578 ปีที่แล้ว

    What could be the causes of mixture of water and diesel,cause I have one of the engine that I haven't figured out what causes the mixture. If you have any idea let me know.

  • @rodhart6498
    @rodhart6498 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have 2000 international 4700 the oil is being pulled from the engine into the fuel tank. Have not been able to find the problem any information will helpful thanks

  • @johnrossewing3982
    @johnrossewing3982 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was experiencing the same issues. But....my bus would crank and crank and wouldn't start. I removed the rear heater, and in that process, cut the supply lines to shorten and hide them. Apparently I lost more coolant than I thought and i had NO clue that there is a low coolant sensor that prevents the motor from starting. I replaced the cam sensor and still had no luck. Once I filled the coolant to the "full" level on the container, the damn thing fired right up. I wasn't throwing any codes either. I talked to an old-timer that is a retired bus mechanic. He told me to add coolant. It's between "add" and "full" and that beast lives again. Much cheaper than replacing every sensor...

    • @WillStone
      @WillStone  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wgaca JR thanks for your story. Yes if I were to remake the video i would have included: 'make sure all fluid levels are good including coolant, transmission, oil, steering, brake, rear diff, etc.' but i guess i assumed most people would start there. Also if you do follow my advice in the video you would not replace every sensor you would start by reading your error codes which would indicate you should check coolant (in your case). Congratulations on getting it running again though that's always a satisfying feeling!

    • @langan9000
      @langan9000 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Never pre fill fuel filters and never wear a ring on your hand while you work on anything.

  • @outspoken5326
    @outspoken5326 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    also to check icp you can start the engine with it running disconnect the connector. the engine will give a quick hesatation and idle normal. but besure to disconnect the battery befor doing any work under the hood

  • @VAHOSS
    @VAHOSS 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the MAP sensor? Weak power is also a common issue with these engines

  • @loudmouth_racing1991
    @loudmouth_racing1991 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool vid, much appreciated. I have a 96 powerstroke and I'm having some issues of her dying here and there but starting right back up. The last time it was hard to restart so I guess I need to start figuring this out before I get stranded. Any suggestions where to start considering these syptoms?

  • @oatmeal4978
    @oatmeal4978 9 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Will,
    One thing you should do, remove that New Gray Colored CPS Cam Position Sensor and put the original Black CPS back in the bus. The old Black CPS was made with a USA Made Magnetic Hall Sensor and is the best units ever made. If it has the small circle in the center with the exposed magnetic sensor you are in luck. The new Sensors have a cheap offset Asian made Hall Sensor that throws the timing off and causes high EGT temps, and poor performance eating fuel. The CPS goes in with a single 10MM Bolt and you torque it at 18 ft. lbs. The CPS is one of the most important parts of your 7.3L engine, the old black CPS will make the engine run on all 8 cylinders.n The new gray CPS is a nightmare, besides the cheap Hall Sensor, it's offset and not centered. So when the flywheel spins it counts the largest tooth and the smallest tooth on the flywheel. A bad CPS will give the ECM a wrong count and screw-up the entire delivery system, Both the new gray Ford and the International Dark Blue CPS have the same faulty offset hall sensor and are wasting tens of thousands of gallons of fuel each day. I have an old Black CPS in my truck and I get 20-21 MPG on HWY and 17 City with a heavy foot. Here is a diagram to show you how the 7.3L PSD Works starting at the top left with the CPS (CAMP) Sensor.
    tinyurl.com/7-3L-Wiring-Diagram .

  • @andrewchambers9813
    @andrewchambers9813 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do you translate scangauge codes? I'm having a really hard time finding information

  • @hollybeak5363
    @hollybeak5363 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant and VERY much needed. But please slow down the speeding camera - I nearly fell off my chair lol

  • @johnnymitchell4362
    @johnnymitchell4362 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the same motor but oil keeps coming thru my turbo exhaust even after I changed turbos… any ideas

  • @jalalnasir85
    @jalalnasir85 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank u for the video..helpful...I had a mechanic swap out my motor because of bad headgasket...now it cranks does not start any help would be great

    • @Mr.Smith101
      @Mr.Smith101 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      What led you to believe the head gasket was bad?

  • @dahobbs2008
    @dahobbs2008 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One very important addition to this "things to look for video" that was well made I'd like to say. Also the UVC injector and glow plug harnesses. Aka under the valve cover.

  • @willymags123
    @willymags123 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I got a 1984 s 1800 series and I just bought a 1998 diesel pusher will this engine fit into my Diesel Pusher? My Diesel Pusher has a t444 e? but I'm unsure of what my other bus has in it

  • @lilnelly036
    @lilnelly036 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I HAVE A 2000 INTERNATIONAL 4600 DT466E, Truck wouldn't start due to fuel, Got the truck started and stay running but I'm not getting full power when I try to drive it, Do have any idea what could be wrong?

  • @miguelangelcisnerosrodrigu6912
    @miguelangelcisnerosrodrigu6912 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi will, excelent information , my name is miguel , have f350 7.3 model 2000 only 2 weeks ago not start, but i have a cuestion , my truck not start even smell gasoline or start fluid, i thinks the piston ring, are bad i am ready to pull out and repair do you have some trick to comfim about the rings? thanks

  • @hersonmaynorleonorcastro2491
    @hersonmaynorleonorcastro2491 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cuantos sensores controlan el motor el.ipr icp y map y donde van ubicados es q tengo un problema con un motor.dd.esos q.me.piede fuerza

  • @michaelbenoit248
    @michaelbenoit248 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to have a 95 7.3, well still do an selling it now, bought a 7.3 idi that’s better for running more bio fuels.
    These 7.3s are a true pain in the ass to fix sometimes, but being that the valve covers are no buried between the truck where the passenger side one only comes off at a certain angle. For the 3/4ton trucks ford should’ve stuck w the 7.3 idi.
    Basically if you can afford it, change the factory valve cover gaskets, IPR, ICP, & CPS/ with a spare in the glovebox.
    The IPR moves in & out about a couple hundred times a decent to send the right amount of oil to the injectors.
    This is a part you want to get that’s genuine motorcraft, other sensors like the ICP just get after market, get motorcraft for the CPS as well.
    If it’s taken care of that is about the only real issues these things have.
    Just get ready to pull out the wallet for 1K in injectors, & $700 oil pump, & 1-$200 computer tho.
    I just found a bus w that engine in it that pas parked in a field, I’m 17 so hopefully I can get it pretty cheap.🤞

  • @robertdelgado9677
    @robertdelgado9677 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the same bus.
    Pretty bad oil leak can't really see where it's coming from.
    Near the filter on the driver side front of the motor.
    It's shooting out like a pulse.
    Any ideas before I take this thing apart.

    • @WillStone
      @WillStone  10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      what error code do you get? check the cps and the icp sensors. bad icp often does this (i've read).

    • @WillStone
      @WillStone  10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Will Stone also there's a metal plate inside the bus in the middle of the floor between the door and the driver's seat that you can remove to get additional access to the engine bay - just in case you didn't know

  • @Alex-nn5sr
    @Alex-nn5sr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish u showed us the part # for that cam shaft sensor.

  • @JimTheZombieHunter
    @JimTheZombieHunter 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been looking for a 72 passenger bus myself. I'm partial to the DT466, but haven't totally ruled out the T444E. as an option - the high production numbers should make parts and boneyard scavenge readily available, but tell me, is it enough engine for comfortable highway cruising? What's the "top" speed of your bus (without beating it to death)?

    • @WillStone
      @WillStone  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We weigh 22,000 pounds and have additional drag from our roof deck and solar panels and can cruise at 61mph no problem. Mountain highways were troublesome until we replaced the water pump and cleaned the radiator in a commercial degreaser last month

    • @JimTheZombieHunter
      @JimTheZombieHunter 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks :)

    • @eldoradoboy
      @eldoradoboy 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      what did you use for a water pump? I do have the issue in hot weather of mine running a bit warm... I had a bad fan clutch mine is not the nice horton like yours.. its an old-style viscous.. but now that works.. however it still likes to run about 212 or so on hot days at 65 on the freeway with my Air-conditioner on and heater valves closed... I really despise the OH split radiator.. both of my busses have the rad design.. when you say you cleaned your rad in degreaser.. the inside of it or just the outside fins?

  • @kuunders
    @kuunders 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video.
    Im from holland. and i have the same bus. only from the year 1996. I have problems white the engine. Bud where can you find the cable for the scangauge. i cant find it. i have looking the hole day for it. i hope some 1 can help me.
    Sorry my english is not so verry good.

    • @WillStone
      @WillStone  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      It plugs in under the steering wheel between the steering wheel and the ignition

  • @mosestay6579
    @mosestay6579 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can the sensors cost the engine not starting

  • @keithnoneya
    @keithnoneya 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video gave you a thumbs up. A little all over the place but I learned some things, thanks for doing it. I was so in tune with the video I didn't even notice the sniffling. LOL, if you watch my vids I sniff a lot maybe that's why I didn't notice it. Mine is cutting out occasionally, tipically in cooler weather, in the 70's, then it goes away in the summer mid to high 90's. Changed the CPS no change. So I figure i'll try the Throttle assymbly and the ambient temperature sensor. Any ideas? Ps also changed the oil, auto tranny fluid and filter. Ran injector cleaner to, no effect. Pulls hard under load just when cruising does it cut out. Seems to do it between 1700 - 2200 RPM. Thanks Best Wishes/Blessings Keith.

  • @bobbyjohnnascar
    @bobbyjohnnascar 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great information here! Will I am looking for a diesel p/u 1996 or earlier 12v Cummins or a 7.3 Power Stroke. In your opinion which is the most trouble free / durable / ease in working on in stock configuration/? Thanks

    • @HaydenIngram
      @HaydenIngram 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      they made 12v up to 98. 24v are not bad motors if you put a lift pump before it destroys your injector pump. all diesels are expensive to maintain you can count on close to $100 every servicing. if you use quality oil and filters. they are all pretty much easy to work on if you buy a high mileage truck you can expect to replace all the o rings/ gaskets especiially if it has a little age on it. just my .02

    • @davidmartin2231
      @davidmartin2231 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Go with a 7.3 Ford or a 12v cummings. Durable and easy to work with. Of course maintanance is key on these engines. Expect to shell out $100 or a little bit more on each servicing. Lucas fuel additive goes a long way too, put in regularly. I have had my 7.3 for about 4 yrs now, and haven't had an issue with it. Always service it on time, replace all filters, and take it easy on her, she will last. 300k on the clock, and she takes me anywhere, anytime. No smoke or rattling noises.

    • @doorguner01
      @doorguner01 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      hayden ingram and add fuel additives with lubrication properties because of the low sulphur diesel it doesn't provided enough luberication for the lift and injector pumps on the Cummins or any diesel as far as that goes thats the reason 2003 dodge Cummins injector pumps had a high failure rate because of lack of lubrication to the pumps

    • @HaydenIngram
      @HaydenIngram 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      they had high failure rates due to low fuel pressure. because it has electric lift pump on the side of engine and after so much vibration they fail then the ip fails.

    • @doorguner01
      @doorguner01 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      hayden ingram they put the electric fuel pump in the tank also and they still had issues with them even with the mechanical lift pump anyways got to love government take something simple and make it complicated

  • @pyrogunner
    @pyrogunner 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’ve been through all that, rebuilt the HPOP and replaced the IPR and several other things and checked everything else you mentioned, and more, and my truck still refuses to start. Any ideas? It’s really frustrating. The last time it ran was July and it did great on a trip, but a few days after the trip, and ever since then, it refuses to start.

    • @WillStone
      @WillStone  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      What error codes do you have?

  • @findingalex08
    @findingalex08 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the Video. I have a 7.3 with a Crank no start. Found the fuel bowl empty. I checked the Volts on the fuel pump and theirs 12v. Do you have any suggestions on what it could be ?

    • @WillStone
      @WillStone  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which error codes are you seeing?

    • @findingalex08
      @findingalex08 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Will Stone None due to the battery was disconnected. Besides the fuel pump what electrical part should I check ?

    • @WillStone
      @WillStone  9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Could be a clog in the fuel line, a couple different sensors, or the fuel pump... just because it has power doesn't mean it's working. I would start by looking at the error code(s)

    • @findingalex08
      @findingalex08 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Will Stone hi. Im back. Just to let you know. I Replaced the IPR, ICP and the fuel pump. My truck did turned On. But after 5 minutes it turned off. My question is did that happened to the 7.3 engine after replacing all the sensors ?

    • @mrbmd710
      @mrbmd710 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What about the fuel filter or the 2 screens in the fuel tank?

  • @truebengalsfan
    @truebengalsfan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is the oil capacity 15 quarts like in a regular 7.3 f350

    • @ryanstreeks2608
      @ryanstreeks2608 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Umm I think depending on application's might have a deep oil sump.

    • @ryanstreeks2608
      @ryanstreeks2608 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whut application is it in.

  • @alericjohansen6775
    @alericjohansen6775 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question, can you use an OBD2 reader to read the codes? I know you would need an adapter for the J1939 (or whatever plug it is), but I don't know if it would read international codes, as most of the scanners I see don't tell you truck models like International, Freightliner, etc. Does it just do a half job? Or will it read all the codes correctly?
    Thanks for this video, it seems like it's very helpful. I basically JUST got my 1st diesel ever, so I'm still learning all of this stuff, but it sounds like this is a great video. I even saved it to my computer just in case I couldn't find it on TH-cam. In fact, thats how im here now, I couldnt remember the exact title, but I had saved the video and thus was able to get the exact title and get here, lol.

    • @WillStone
      @WillStone  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Afaik there isn't an adapter unfortunately

    • @alericjohansen6775
      @alericjohansen6775 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WillStone
      There is adapters listed on Amazon. They wouldn't sell them if they didn't work, right? Or is that just a naive assumption?

    • @WillStone
      @WillStone  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alericjohansen6775 yeah afaik it won't work but please let me know if you find out otherwise

  • @Atr42Greasemonkey
    @Atr42Greasemonkey 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude I need your help I bought a school bus and someone ripped all the wiring out of it and now it wont start. Can I replace the computer so the bus will start? So many safety stops in a bus. I would pay for your advise. Its a 2001 International 444e engine

    • @WillStone
      @WillStone  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm very sorry for the delayed reply - what an awful situation. Was this a thief, or the previous owner or something? Really depends what you mean by 'all the wiring' :/
      You're gonna be best off visiting an International dealer or finding a local diesel shop. You can call and see who your local school district uses. If they have their own shop/mechanic, try to get put in touch 'just to ask a quick question'. To replace the computer you're gonna need some specifics that the dealer will be able to look up for you, or you might be able to find based on the VIN. But, yeah I'd seek IRL help asap if you haven't already - a bit difficult to help with that particular situation via interwebs

  • @Lalomalo_solidinca
    @Lalomalo_solidinca 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you make a list of the parts plz
    Just there name so I know what to buy

  • @teslarossatj1815
    @teslarossatj1815 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for making this Video.

  • @calebfranklin5045
    @calebfranklin5045 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    i just bought a 2001 international 4700 bucket truck with the t444e and it was about a 260mile trip 5hrs at 55-63mph, the truck runs and idles great but about 10-15times on the way back home it dropped from 2500rpms to 0 or 2000 rpm both 0 and 1500-2000 several times each, the truck did hesitate or jerk in a slowing down motion then regained rpm very quickly every time except for the time it did it for about 15-20seconds.....any ideas?? starts right up overtime and idles no problem...only did it in 6th gear going around 55-60 2000-2500rpms

    • @element7us
      @element7us 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you fix it? Have the same problem with mine in 6th gear.

    • @erod4489
      @erod4489 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Although you posted a month ago I'm curious what was your issue. Was it a bad battery or alternator

    • @BurkesRepair
      @BurkesRepair 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      look at the injector/glowplug harness where it goes over the valve cover. It is rubbing through and causing the injectors to short out. super common on those

    • @MrTackleberry79
      @MrTackleberry79 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Replace your cps. Cam position sensor. Front of engine, just above the harmonic dampener on the right side (passenger side). Should be one 10mm bolt and wiggle or pry it out with a screwdriver. Be sure to buy an OEM part from ford or international because the ones that napa and other chain aftermarket stores sell are trash and will fail right away.
      If you don't fix it, it'll keep getting worse intermittently especially in hot or wet weather.
      And eventually it won't work at all. When you get the part, buy two and keep a spare in the cab.

  • @harleyhoracio1
    @harleyhoracio1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    2000 4700 t444e here, jump in and start it first thing, the idle starts to climb gradually and stays at high idle until I tap the accelerator pedal. It calms down after that. Any ideas?

    • @WillStone
      @WillStone  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Normal behavior to get the engine up to ideal temp. Let it happen, don't tap the accelerator

    • @harleyhoracio1
      @harleyhoracio1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WillStone Ok, I appreciate the reply.

    • @harleyhoracio1
      @harleyhoracio1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What’s the oil pipe/tube that runs from the front of the engine to the oil filter head? Mine is leaking like crazy. Is it an involved repair?

  • @faridernestoroman5333
    @faridernestoroman5333 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Como puedo acelerar el pedal de aceleracion? O que escaner debo usar para este tipo de motores.

  • @BryanFarmLife
    @BryanFarmLife 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good vid, thanks for the upload.

  • @jalalnasir85
    @jalalnasir85 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    hello, so I had a blown head gasket...I had a mechanic change out the t444e motor now new motor will not crank over...just cranks...any ideas? mechanic saying ecu needs programming or bad ecu?

    • @memphetic
      @memphetic 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Jalal Nasir Sounds like it's your mechanic's problem. He should figure it out, or pay to have it fixed by someone more qualified.

    • @jalalnasir85
      @jalalnasir85 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Ryan Detwiler yes should have

    • @josephsfields
      @josephsfields 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm curious how this worked out. Just going off the comments my interpretation was that your mechanic was not up to the task, for whatever reason. It's step by step starting with fuel supply. Electric fuel pump putting fuel into the fuel filter housing?

  • @eldoradoboy
    @eldoradoboy 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    does your oil pressure gauge "hunt" while on the road? I just picked up a 2000 Bluebird with a T444E... drove it 1050 miles home.. runs beautiful.. my fan clutch is bad so i ran about 210 temperature on the hot days but thats an easy fix.. it has the typical intermittent tap-tap at idle sometimes.. (LL #8 injector needed maybe...).... the one thing i notice us drivng down the road on the highway.. my oil pressure gauge hunts from say 48 down to 40 then back up again... repeats about every 10 seconds... just wondered if yours does the same thing.. what does your dash oil pressure gauge read after your engine hot and you are on the highway? I dont have a normal OBD-II port for a scanner on mine.. I have a scangauge 2 that i use on my cars but what did you use for a pinout to the connector to pull the codes? my bus has a round connector instead of the normal style, otherwise mine looks identical under the hood.. its a 190HP variant of the T444E, in a little 6 window, the bus has better pickup than my 7 row DT-360 bus has.

    • @eldoradoboy
      @eldoradoboy 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      should me ntion the scangauge you use is a VR model... i ended up using the international software servicemaxx and running a J1708 adapter... one thing to note is that the fuel Pressure regulator nut on the older ones only ran at 47 PSI pressure .. its actually the spring in the regulator... that was replaced due to a TSB for late 99s.. (I noticed yours has the notched FPR nut which means it was updated to the 72 PSI).. others watching its a worthwhile upgrade.. quieted my engine right down form alot of the cackle.. my oil pressure still hunts, however is in range according to the books so I let it do its thing... the EBPV is another thing that will cost stalling or sometimes no-starts... many of the cold-weather busses had this on it as a war up device... it causes issues by sticking sometimes and blocking up the exhaust...

  • @JUNIOR-mi2ei
    @JUNIOR-mi2ei 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a question I have 1996 international, it my first time doing oil change in this truck how much oil I need to put in side the oil filter..
    thx

    • @mashed-out
      @mashed-out 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      fill her up till oil runs out the valve covers...that will fuck'n do it bruh!

    • @howyoudoinralph
      @howyoudoinralph 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Damm, you need to PM me your weed guy cause you must be couch locked and completely incoherent in your moms basement no doubt

    • @deanbenson6879
      @deanbenson6879 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      12-14 etc depending on yr/mod tot, fill new oil filter before installation(all diesels)

    • @deanbenson6879
      @deanbenson6879 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mashed-out ridiculous

  • @williefufu2985
    @williefufu2985 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a different type of Code Reader from yours. The Code that comes up on my Code Reader is FMI=4 Voltage Below Normal, Or shorted to Low Source. Can you tell me what that means? Thank you.

    • @WillStone
      @WillStone  6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ICP sensor needs to be replaced or the signal line has an open or short. Try replacing the ICP. Also, if you google "t444e fmi 4 error code voltage below normal" you'll see lot's of great info. GL!

    • @williefufu2985
      @williefufu2985 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you

  • @andrewmotter9158
    @andrewmotter9158 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will, mind sharing the exact model of your diagnostic/code reader? I'm about to get a bus with the same engine and want the same reader you have. Thanks for the incredibly helpful video!

    • @WillStone
      @WillStone  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Andrew Motter glad it was helpful - sure, it's the 'Scangauge D' the d stands for diesel model. I would read you the numbers off the back but I permanently attached it to inside my dash because most of the oem gauges don't work. Pretty sure they just make an odbII (regular) and a combo Diesel (j1939 & j1708) version. Ours uses the j1708 pinout.

  • @tbirdpimp07
    @tbirdpimp07 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    dunno about international setups but ford trucks the tank selector leaks air in the fuel system a pickup in the fuel tank rotts off the fuel bowl screen gets clogged and the valve cover gaskets go bad these engines wont crank with a weak set of batterys either it actually needs a certain rpm before it will fire the injectors

    • @tbirdpimp07
      @tbirdpimp07 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      i also keep a spare crank sensor and of course i my ipr is acting up as well still cheaper to maintain than a chevy diesel though

  • @stangfyfzx
    @stangfyfzx 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you bro lots of help.

  • @fknbastages
    @fknbastages 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any word on where to get a fuel filter receiver? Mine is rare and discontinued. It has a major crack. :-(

    • @MrTackleberry79
      @MrTackleberry79 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      David Hereaux find a machine shop or a reputable fabrication shop to TIG weld the crack closed.

  • @sirrusty1435
    @sirrusty1435 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Subscriber 996! ✊

    • @WillStone
      @WillStone  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Holy crap I'm gonna have to start posting to yt again! Cheers man

  • @RamboRichardson
    @RamboRichardson 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your the best!!!

  • @benrippe4071
    @benrippe4071 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is the coolant capacity of these buses? I have a international 3400 w the t444e, its got a bad water pump that leaks, about to replace it, cant find the coolant capacity specs anywhere!?

    • @WillStone
      @WillStone  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      we just did the water pump ourselves, I can check the receipt if you still need it?

  • @bryanmartinez6600
    @bryanmartinez6600 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    those oil filter pliers I only use when changing the filter and can't get it off easily cause filter turns into shrapnel with those

    • @richfarfugnuven6308
      @richfarfugnuven6308 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      HERPY DERPEDY use the plastic strap kind. Trust me....

  • @gonzalobarocio5505
    @gonzalobarocio5505 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    how do you take out the oil pan

  • @hugoleyvaislas5489
    @hugoleyvaislas5489 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice vídeo, simple and practic

  • @burrejo
    @burrejo 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Next weeks video will cover the under valve cover harness, IDM, and HPOP....(which is what you unscrewed the IPR out of)... a weak HPOP can throw ICP codes and light up your CEL but usually only under a heavy load or going up a hill, also can cause hard starts..... lol

    • @rogue1busintergalactic83
      @rogue1busintergalactic83 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whiskey Tango can you please write out what IDM and HPOP are?
      Thanks

    • @seansouth1556
      @seansouth1556 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rogue1busintergalactic83 injector driver module and high pressure oil pump

    • @ttamn92
      @ttamn92 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've replaced a lot of IDM's valve cover harnesses and injectors only a few HPOP but I hear about them failing alot also

    • @burrejo
      @burrejo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ttamn92 I've got a swamps high voltage high frequency idm and have been pretty happy with it. Haven't had a bad injector yet but religiously run archoil oil additive and fuel additive for anti stiction.

  • @jcad13r
    @jcad13r 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    do u know if the school bus turbo is more powerful than the cab and chassis t44e turbo

  • @gabrielcervantes3987
    @gabrielcervantes3987 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the name of that tool you used for the trouble codes?

    • @WillStone
      @WillStone  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ScanGauge Diesel

  • @abrahanespinoza3709
    @abrahanespinoza3709 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! I'm going to get a f250 with a navistar 7.3 with 80k miles . How many miles can this engine's run for?

    • @FishFind3000
      @FishFind3000 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      abrahan espinoza depends on the maintenance and if it's modified. If it's stock or mild tune and well taken care of it's a half a million mile engine. Pretty much guarantee 250k

    • @BurkesRepair
      @BurkesRepair 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mine is a 2000 F350 7.3L, crewcab 4x4 dually....has 380,000 on original engine. Auto trans made it to 360,000. Had a straight pipe and Superchip tuner on it it's whole life. Still runs great!

  • @steffenschutt4920
    @steffenschutt4920 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hello, can you please write me a list what exactly I need everything? I report from Germany and unfortunately you got very little to spare part or help. Our school bus 1999 goes out during the trip and spring very badly again Filter we have already changed. At first we thought it was due to the defective diesel line and the engine draws air. We do not know. Can you tell us where to get help? Best regards Steffen

    • @WillStone
      @WillStone  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would start by purchasing a code reader on Amazon called the 'scangauge d' the d stands for diesel version the normal one won't work. then use it to find out what errors the engine computer is reporting and fix them

    • @steffenschutt4920
      @steffenschutt4920 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello Will, I bought it and have to wait a bit. I am registering Greeting Steffen

    • @paulbunion9830
      @paulbunion9830 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      write it donw yourself , holy talk about asking someone to do too much, watch the video and write it down..

  • @MissionaryForMexico
    @MissionaryForMexico 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am looking at buying a blue bird international with same type engine. I would like keep in contact with you! You helped me understand some good troubleshooting !