The thing that makes Wonder of U's ability perhaps both the strongest and the scariest ability of all Stands in Jojo, in my opinion, is the fact that it's a passive ability. You can technically defeat The World and D4C before they were to use their abilities, but not WoU. WoU can be miles away from you and you might die from tripping, simply because you were planning to go after the Head Doctor.
Yeah META video covering Wonder of U made the best line to describe why the stand is truly horrifying. "In JoJo the fundamental rule for a stand fight is to get to know the stand and know how it works. Wonder of U breaks this rule. As this very concept is how Wonder of U attacks you"
I really enjoy the increasing complexity of stands in JoJo. It started with simple abilities like Star Platinum and The World being able to stop time, and now we have this steampunk looking fella and his Terraria Calamity or whatever.
I'm a really big fan of when manga authors are able to effectively increase the power scale of their stories whilst keeping the lore interesting. Araki is truly one of he best to ever do it.
Can't wait to see the reveal of jojo's new strongest stand - Araki's Door. It would allow Rohan to turn every part of the series into a new chapter of Thus Spoke Rohan Kishibe
Watch, The JoJoLand's main antagonist is going to have one of the most broken abilities ever. I doubt it will top WoU design wise, but I feel like Araki can go further with abilities.
Today I realized somehow that lowkey Dio created These two male twins having stands and their powers were lowkey meant to put an end to whoever would fuck up Dios plans so thats like for me 5 ways Dio won at the ending and lowkey got what he wanted
As someone who’s been greatly inspired by JoJo,I’ve always thought of the whole concept of inevitability and how it affects everything. While it’s meaning is simple: All things must die,it’s also the most terrifying. All things must die. Sure,some things will outlive us and be around for far longer than we’ll ever know,but eventually they too will die. It’s always such an interesting thing to explore.
I still love how stands, originally introduced as a method to seal the powercreep after Part 2, quickly devolved into multiversal powers anyway. Stands in Part 4: I can breathe Fire and punch really fast and hard. Stands in Part 8: I can shoot infinitely spinning bubbles which don't exist in this reality to overcome your multiversal control of bad luck.
At least he knows that he can once again cap the powercreep with each part. We won't have to see another Made in Heaven in the first chapters of jojolands
I love that the ultimate power in JoJo’s is the manipulation of fate and logic itself, and the part 9 gang just encountered a man who can theoretically rewrite logic itself at the personal level. The true ultimate stand.
Fun fact manipulate fate doesn't truly exist in jjba since reshaping destiny is also predestined mean that fate is also fated to If you can change the fate then it also fated to that why it truly inescapable according to some panel in made in heaven arc
@@tuppiee1752 i mean how would u know its predestined since ger(an example) does it make it seem like he is acting out as fate or beyond fate and in both case fate is manipulated and ger is able to make different possiblities occur with absolute,its like saying that fate existing was fated which would not exactly work and ger being able to manipulate fate and be out of its bounds yet still be fated wouldnt make sense which araki showed by king crimson epitaph and idk which panel u refrencing but it could be that the person who said it doesnt know about stand like ger and statements by people are supposed to take literally since jotaro stating that "no stand can bring anyone to life" maybe a lie due to gold experience(even tho it was bruno returning its soul yet ge played a part to make it possible) and there are stands that are able to bring undead(if i remember correctly) and we cant take that as fact from jotaro so for now imma say ger is either outside fate or acts as fate
@@saifkhan-kc9ec made in heaven arc there a panel that told you that "reshaping destiny is predestined" when pucci chasing emperio And yes ger isn't manipulate fate in this question it simple all the movement all the idea was already predestined it already explain in part 6 that free will isn't actually exist it was loop the universe that would repeat itself Noone in jojo truly overcome it Since it fundamental force as pucci and dio said it a fundamental force or gravity how you overcome thing that is basically part of universe itself and it also the reason why you can still moving
11:38 I currently believe that “the mechanism” that Jodio spouts on about encompasses both fortune and calamity, it is the balance and flow of the logic of reality itself. I have a feeling that the idea of “Go Beyond” will be further explored by having Jodio develop his stand to go beyond the mechanism itself and control it to his will.
@@nannerbanana2504 Do you have a link to a statement from Araki or something of the like confirming this? I haven't heard of this and if it's true then I'd probably follow part 9 much more religiously.
I am gonna be real, Araki is such a genius the way he writes and portrays abilities, if It was me the series would be over after having a character that manipulates time, then space, then reality. But Araki is able to think more and more interesting and complex abilities for his story, I can't even begin to imagine what he is gonna do for part 9
I don't really think his super strong stands are why he is a great writer. Anybody could make a time stopping, time rewinding, good/bad luck stand. It's when he shows these stands in battle and how they one up eachother.
@@uatom nah these stand are more complicated than just rewinding time or time stopped in fact the detail that araki added to these ability aren't thing that other writer usually add it to the story The detail like low gravity when dio is time stopped Or dimensions travel that usually be seen in other anime but araki decided to added some detail that other anime didn't so is explained how it work D4C crossed to other neighbors universe by the power of gravity itself hold his body together that it not shattered while do dimensions traveling These details seem to be isn't that important but in fact as a nerd that usually like to learn how universe work It is possible to happen but what i mean possible isn't mean it might actually happened but due the fact that each stand of villain have interacted with gravity make it possible to happen because gravity itself is most complicated fundamental And what make me realise this is jojo is a getting araki his way to explain all of these is insane he make nerd questions how this happens and still make normal ppl that know nothing about science able to enjoy the show
@@tuppiee1752true, like when Emporio beat Pucci by filling the room with oxygen, and since Pucci was moving faster he inhaled oxygen quicker, but that was my point, how he makes them top on another in a fight.
Based interpretation. The thing about calamity coming from WoU is that it always manifests as a physical collision, with many boundaries and limitations, never anything more or less, meaning a being such as Kars, or DIO both of which having no real way to die from physical trauma alone would be more than capable of surviving calamities brought on by the stand. It shows Araki's dedication to the idea that no one being is stronger than the rest. There's always someone either smart enough to defeat you or strong enough to beat you. Even with Pucci's control of gravity, and by extension fate, he is still subject to these powers in the end through everyone's will and Emporio's strength and resolve. JoJo is peak.
This isn't true. The calamity caused the Locacaca to seal Josuke's mouth, preventing him from drinking any more, and caused worms to grow out of a cutlet. It's just that physical collisions are the simplest ways to manifest calamity. For Kars, getting blown into the stratosphere itself is calamity. For Dio, getting brained is calamity. The definition of calamity is relative to the victim.
@@WingedValkyrie I didn’t recall his mouth sealing but the worms I do remember. But it’s too vague to say those are the calamities that would occur because EVERY single lethal calamity was from a collision of objects. As for dio losing his brain, this would not kill him, as he literally survived both the destruction of his stand and the loss of his head.
@@GhettoPeach He's not saying Kars will also get worms growing out him, but that calamity will simply show up in different forms to beings like Kars and Dio than it would to normal humans. Calamity takes many forms, sometimes it doesn't even physically harm. A moment that always stuck out to me in late part 8 was when Josuke blocked an advance from a random guy outside the hospital, and the dude's neck just breaks out of nowhere, right in front of a huge crowd. Josuke hasn't been harmed physically, but now he's wanted by the police. Thats what is being brought up here.
@@GhettoPeach One lethal calamity we see that is interesting is the one that affects the journalist pursuing the Head Doctor. It retroactively increases the potency of the locacaca juice that went into his body through a cut causing his neck to turn to stone. For Dio it could do something as unlikely as making a nearby star explode into a supernova and showering them with lethal UV light for example. For Kars it's tricky since we really don't know what the limits of his survivability are, but with Wonder of U anything can happen. No matter how improbable, if it's possible, it will affect him, maybe a meteor strikes his body and vaporizes him for example.
@@GhettoPeach did you forget how kars lost? he got collided from below into space lmao and for dio its as simple as something happening to his building he's sleeping in during the day
It’s funny, Parts 3-6 Araki explores Time as the final confrontation. Now, SBR explores fortune and JoJolion delves into calamity. It’s possible that JoJoLands might explore disruption in logic and reality, considering how much Jodio goes into “The Mechanism”
Jojo really is a story about humans overcoming fate itself. The wonder of u was such a crazy stand cuz you literally couldn’t stop it once it got started. Reminds me how once you enter a string of bad luck, You can’t end it. You hope it ends, that’s why Toru said even if you stop me calamity still exists lol. Got me thinking Araki is saying overcoming fate is possible but even then you can’t escape its influence 😊
I always wondered; can you even say Love Train is Valentine's Stand? As he couldn't use it without Lucy. I'd say it was actually the Corpe's Stand, or even Lucy's, and Valetine's was channeling the Corpse's power through Lucy.
I think the Corpse was a vessel that Valentine used to make his own unique stand stronger. The Corpse only unlocked his ability, Love Train. Just how certain people have stands, but won’t be awoken unless getting hit and surviving the arrow
Yeah that's what I remember as well. I don't think love train is part of D4C I'm pretty sure its Lucy's stand/ability and D4C was just taking advantage of it.
I like to think of it as Jesus's or the saint's stand where lucy was a sacrifice where D4C got ahold of the love train but it technically had nothing to do with Valentines stand
Yasuho didnt attack though. She simply pointed her phone at Tooru. If josuke couldnt use go beyond at that moment she wouldve died. It was a last ditch effort not in attacking tooru but trusting josuke. And josuke didnt actually attack tooru per se. he directed his bubble through the phone which happened to be pointed directly at his head loool
@@Trans4Hire what she did didn't count as an attack though. she said that herself it simply hides things between cards. it does no damage. and she still received calamity for that by being stabbed with the garden knife anyway?
i feel like calamity, infinite spin, love train, and wonder of u can just be explained way more succinctly as "it's feng shui and feng shui manipulation" like, if you were to take dragon's dream and use its compass while pursuing wonder of u, you'd see your lucky spot constantly shifting away from you as reality changes to keep you on your unluckiest spot at all times
Literally if it wasn’t part of the worst fight, it would literally be considered as one of the strongest stand in the series. The only one in main cast of p6 that could fight him was FF, anyone else like say weather report would just die quickly.
@@asmagamer728 Weather Report would've pulled water mirror trick much easier and quicker lol, FF lived only because she can afford to make that many mistakes.
The strongest stand is clearly Hey Ya! If Wonder of U's calamity hits you as bad luck, then having a stand that gives you awareness of your GOOD luck should allow you to cancel it out yes?
Although an interesting theory, I really don't believe that [Hey Ya!] would be able to counter [Wonder of U]'s ability. Demonstrated towards the end of Part 7, Funny Valentine, with all of the good luck on his side, was still overcome by Tusk Act 4's infinite spin, and in one scene, Funny Valentine mentioned "Is this a calamity?!". Araki, towards the end of part 8, stated that "Calamity" was the most powerful ability/concept in which he has worked with. Calamity is not really luck either, with it being the overall and generalized idea of "negative energy" seen throughout one's reality. Calamity doesn't have to only affect things physically, with it being able to affect one mentally and spiritually as well. (Calamity is a flow, a screaming rapid, in which no one can pass. Ones who dare to go against the flow, will be swept away, perishing.)
Friendly reminder: Hey Ya! doesn't bless the user Pocoloco is just very lucky, Hey Ya is his subconscious telling him what to do which he was going to anyway
As many stands have complete reality-breaking abilities, it would all come down to which reality-breaking ability breaks the reality of the reality-breaking ability of the other stand user. In other words, with just the context from the series, it would be impossible to know which stand would overpower another unless if the two users actually confronted each other.
Basically out hacking and hack countering each other. Undead Unluck has a lot of that but in more simpler terms. For instance. Someone that can stop a wound from healing is a perfect match for someone who can't die and heal instantly. Someone with infinite speed would be countered by someone who can halt anything they look at And finally someone who can make things explode on contact would be powerless against someone who can't be physically touched.
@@furionmax7824 King Crimson can defy fate. Dio's stand stops time. Would the differences made as a result of stopped time from a perspective in normal time go against the flow of fate? In other words, would Diavalo look into the future and see what looks like Dio teleporting? If he does, he could cut time and get out of the way when Dio should have "teleported" to kill him. If stopping time goes against fate, than Diavalo would see a future that would exist if stopping time didn't exist, which would make him unable to avoid Dio's fate-altering ability.
I like how Araki approaches power by how difficult it is to overcome when used properly. Sure Powerhouses like Tusk Act 4 and GER exist, but a ton of the boss fights are ended with knowledge and not just simply a greater power.
i think made in heaven directly affects time based abilities by shortening their duration and thus could beat any other time based stand due to the ensuing confusion and incredible speed
@@OmniKit the effect was extremely minor, only allowing pucci to move his eyes but just like how dio's time stop got longer as he learned to use it, pucci probably could've learned to speed it up more
I also believe Wonder of U can be seen as the strongest because it's ability activates as soon as anyone even considers going after Toru. If any of the past antagonists fought against him, they are physically stronger and have more battle focused stands but "Wonder of U" takes affect as soon as the person begins to think against or go after it, so it's possible to say it's ability affects the entire world around it after it is triggered, but unlike Pucci which is an ability that affect everyone equally, "Wonder of U" focuses only on the enemy.
I never see anyone discuss that after Wonder of U was destroyed the calamity that surrounded it (cleverly depicted as its clothing) still existed beyond Toru and WoU itself.
[Part 7 and Part 8 spoilers if you haven't got there] Just thinking, If Soft & Wet: Go Beyond is an extension of the Spin, and, my memory is correct, Johnny was able to have Tusk Act 4 move during Diego's The World Stopped Time, I'm pretty sure Go beyond can trump the Time Stop as well. Can't wait to see how The Hustle is stupid broken in Part 9.
Thank you for mentioning that calamity itself is the most powerful force and not just WoU. So many take this quote as Araki stating WoU is the strongest when that's not what hes saying WoU can manipulate calamity but just like the World has limitations on how long it can stop time, WoU has limitations on its ability to manipulate calamity. 1. You must be pursuing WoU 2. It can be inconsistent and unpredictable with how the victim will experience negative calamity. The only other thing I'll say and I may be wrong on this and that's why I'm rereading Jojo, I don't believe Love Train is actually part of D4C's ability. More or less Love Train was Lucy Steel's ability but Funny Valentine and D4C was taking advantage of it. Similar to Kira using Stray Cat for its air bubbles.
Your correct about love train it isn’t technically d4c ability more of valentine using Lucy. However if I remember right valentine used D4c to sort of “guide” love train and keep it active on him.
What's interesting is how Calamity is referenced a lot in Jojolion and Wonder of U manipulates calamities. So maybe the main villain of Jojo Lands will be able to manipulate or alter the Mechanism of nature that was explained in the first 3 chapters of Jojo Lands?
WOU's calamity, in my mind at least, cannot hurt D4C Love Train due to their abilities quite literally cancelling eachother out. Calamity is an unstoppable force of Murphy's Law against Love Train's immovable wall of positive fortune
calamity is a logic within the jojo world, it transcends, concepts, time, and dimensionality. By this, valentine knows about toru, he activates it to try and defend or pursuit against him, but it doesn’t activate since he trips on a rock and dies by hitting his head.
The Soft and wet go beyond is the highest above all till now but still i can't get or process how good and complex Araki make his stand in manga like wth
@@AlbertWesker-uk3uv It's weird because it is and it isnt. It took a lot of extreme circumstances just to land an attack with it. Really showed how strong WoU's ability actually is.
@@FatalityPWN The way i interpret it, is that it is an attack of a single bubble that erases everything, cream style, that also ignores every stand ability and rule. The attack is completely unstoppable but it isn't exactly an instant win. It's not super fast, doesn't deal a lot of damage unless hit in the head or heart and it'd be super hard to aim out of your shoulder without Yasuho.
@@Crabgar isnt that the bubble exists beyond existence. using the video's example, S&W Go Beyond powers literally exists outside of the bubble of existence with positive and negative energies. its just a normal spinning string thats not powerful, but all form of rule or logic doesnt apply to it.
Given that the only way to defeat the last villain was a power that doesn't exist, I wonder what kind of crazy stuff the part 9 characters will bring on the table. Personally I believe that Jodio's stand has something to do with gravitational acceleration, which could tie together both gravity and spinning.
Calamity is probably just an introduction of a new force type that stays on equal with the others. Just like time can make your enemy freeze in place but you will still fall aside if the enemy is C-moon, Calamity is just another force of nature that can be manipulated and is on the same level as basic reality fabrics that other strong stands can control. I think Araki just considers stands of those types, that can decide or change the rules of reality, the same in power level. The only stand that currently stands out of this bound currently is GER, which is shown to be able to affect other stands directly by canceling their abilities. This may mean 2 things, first is that we just don't understand GER's power yet, and second, is that we overestimate the limitations of GER's abilities. Unless one of those statements is true it means that "Araki Forgot" which sounds lame and I prefer thinking of another explanation to how GER works to solve that paradox.
Fucking loved this video! The way you worded Wonder of U's "logic" and how you managed to tie it in to both continuities is brilliant. I always described WoU to my non JoJo fan friends as being the combined laws of Murphy and Karma, but this is a far better explanation :D
My biggest JoJo question is since brains are the most complicated computers we know of, assuming Babyface can run more than just it’s ability, does that make it the strongest supercomputer ever made?
Actually the strongest ability is Elephant's Memory from the hidden stand that wipes Araki's mind and causes him to change the universe by forgetting what he wrote.
I love how the themes of some parts work. For me with Golden Wind being Fate, it helped me accept my first marriage ending and learn to move on. But to now look at calamity and apply it even shows me now that fate isn’t just the bad, but also the good. Weird how that can work.
Have you ever thought about doing a video on some of stands we never really got to see the true potential of cause of various reasons? I can think of a few that come to mind.
imo a lot of part 3 stands were actually really dangerous, but the crusaders were just so cracked that they made them look like idiots (which a lot of them also were)
Still think GER is the strongest, but as a requiem stand is a special case, and Giorno needs to pierce Golden Experience with the arrow, so normally WoU is the strongest.
GER cannot RTZ Calamity since it is not a direct attack to WoU, it's literally just a natural force of the universe redirecting itself to eliminate harm, not by WoU's command
@@morgansboobies It doesn't say anywhere that GER only works with direct attacks. WoU manipulates the flow of calamity, but after he is defeated by Josuke he's gone... It doesn't mean that he has eliminated the "misfortune" from the world forever.
Great video. I secretly loved powerscaling back then, not so secretly nowadays. I didn't even know about the Araki volume quote. But I would've picked Wonder of U at least once anyway. It's insanely strong and we don't know its boundaries, because calamity simply exists in jojo, even if you were to travel across dimensions, time travel or whatever. That universal application makes it so scary.
I mean… if diavolo used king crimson’s ability and Dio was gonna use the time stop in any of the seconds in which king crimson’s ability was in effect then diavolo would simply see dio like he sees everyone else in time skip with the exact same rules except that in the seconds dio would be using time stop (thanks to king crimson’s ability) diavolo would be the only one to not be affected by it, therefore, (as long as it was inside of the period in which time skip was in effect) during the seconds in which Dio would be stopping time he would see everyone and everything still, apart from Dio, which he would be able to watch as he moved in stoped time. But diavolo can interact with dio in interactions that only come from Diavolo to dio(except for the ones that diavolo would allow, like it happens when he has a conversation with bucciarati) and dio still can’t hurt him while he is in the time skip. That’s assuming that they wouldn’t both be able to coexist in that spectator dimension, since their abilities are different and diavolo technically goes into a spectator dimension, that G.E.R. can also access or overlap,(not 100% sure but I think it’s the second one) not like Dio and jotaro which turn all of their surroundings into a stoped state. Dio and jotaro don’t “physically exit” their plane of existence, they instead, to a certain range, put their surroundings on a stoped state that doesn’t affect the ones who possess and to a certain level unlock the ability but they themselves and their stands are always coexisting with everything and everyone around them. It only happens that those surroundings are under the effect of stoped time. Diavolo and [Giorno]-(who is technically only in terms of consciousness not present), in the other hand, thanks to their stands, can [themselves] be in a state that makes them immune to all interactions coming from the exterior of that state of spectator and editor, but some of those privileges and abilities only possessed by the user and/or the stand to do certain things in that state can be given to other entities if the user and/or the stand allow it. -⭐️In conclusion⭐️: Dio and jotaro, with the time stop ability of their stands unlocked, both put their surroundings in a state of disadvantage towards them while still being in the same plane of existence, even, if only them are conscious during that period; but diavolo and giorno with their abilities put themselves, rather then their surroundings, in a state where they are temporarily (or not, depending of G.E.R.’s extent of his abilities) in a superior plane of existence in which they can affect others and not be affected by them (except for certain abilities that can be given access to use by the user and/or stand) rather putting themselves in a position of advantage and immunity towards exterior forces rather then putting the surroundings and the entities present in them(their surroundings) in a state of disadvantage and incapability towards themselves. Ps: If dio stops time, before diavolo can activate time skip, and he is able to kill diavolo before stopped time runs off, then he wins. But Giorno with G.E.R. could probably completely ignore and overlap Dio/the word’s ability to stop time, so if it was Giorno with G.E.R. against Dio then(in my understanding of the series, no matter what, Giorno would win. I’ve spend way to much time writing this(definitely more then 1 hour but maybe not 2). Pls leave a like. ⭐️ Hope this entertained and informed u(if my understanding of the series is correct) ⭐️
xForts makes a video what called "The strongest stand in JoJo according to Araki" XForts: *makes a 11 MINUTE video answering the title's question rather than saying the stand's name immediately and what it can do*
I remember a guy saying that tooru beat valentine and when he gave him arguments why he didn't refuse to debate it now this video shows that i was wrong However, the guy had the support of the author himself and even so he could not argue or read arguments from others just a normal day in jojo fandom
With Wonder of U being the strongest stand, wouldn't D4C: Lovetrain not be able to avoid calamity? Wouldn't it just redirect the calamity to another place on earth?
i think the strongest is a simple context, especially in jojo, the strongest is just the one that comes out on top, if wonder of U is defeated, then he wasn't the strongest, forget plot armor, forget story telling, if someone comes out on top no matter what, they are the strongest, that is that
I think by the end, jodio will have the power of calamity, he's already shown a respect for the "mechanisms" at play and has a stand that just tears people and objects down. With the added context in the beginning with him being eluded to as a psychopath, it wouldn't be too far off to speculate that november rain could inflict calamity upon those he sees fit
I always felt it was safe to assume that something that can go beyond logic, concepts, and existence, can go beyond the concept of time and gravity considering they both exist simultaneously. This is my opinion but, Soft & wet go beyond is the strongest stand and can negate any defensive concept, but it isn't the best stand. Going with my initial argument, it's safe to assume Gappy's bubbles can move and attack within any time manipulation ability, but how is gappy supposed to know to shoot the bubble before time stop, skip or reversal, or even GER's Revert to zero?
I'm surprised rarely anyone make this connection but Go Beyond is pretty much Killer Queen+Stray Cat combo, its a hard counter situation that allow it to beat one of the strongest stand in the series, but to be used against normal enemy? like Wonder of U doesnt attack n barely move, he fires those bubbles one at a time, if he miss(n probably will bcuz he cant control fully it) there is no point in those reality bending bubbles
i think soft and wet: go beyond! still comes out on top because it was kinda described to move outside of the realm of logic and reality. if all the other super powerful abilities all manipulate something grounded in reality (time, gravity, fate, death, calamity, the universe, infinity, etc.), then go beyond! can break through that
Look, say whatever you say about ability, stats and over all impact on the franchise, I get it. BUT, I will not discuss this one fact with anyone WoU got the sickest drip in all Universes.
Wasn't it said that Gold Experience Requiem stops actions of injustice before they begin? Would someone like Pucci or Valentine be unaffected, seeing as they believe they are in the right, where as Diavolo or Kira, who know what they are doing is wrong, be stopped in their tracks?
G.E.R.'s ability nullifies all harmful actions against Giorno back to when they were just a thought. It has nothing to do with what the attacker's intentions are.
@@classicterrysilverw6864 In the first G.E.R chapter: "All that will survive... is the REALITY of this world... RIGHTEOUS ACTIONS born from reality will never be annihilated." And "Are your actions born of reality? Or are they born of superficial evil? We're about to find out. In the end. Will you be able to escape annihilation?" And Requiem in stopped time says that Diavolo's actions will never reach truth, where only the righteous can.
while calamity in the new universe is terrifying i think the concept of fate controlling everything in our lives and it being unavoidable unless you are someone like giorno is also quite scary
I still firmly believe GER Is the strongest stand in all of JoJos for now still since while King Crimson simply removes the presence of the Cause ever happening but keeps the Effect, GER erases both, which in turn will completely cancel out any action. Many have taken it, that it must be a direct attack in order for it to trigger its defensive power but due to it’s AOE (Area of Effect) as well as its secondary ability, this is actually a fallacy, and is only dependent on its own will as anything that even remotely harms Giorno or the existence of anything around him. Simply put GER is a living singularity, it’s the power of zero never allowing anyone to reach 1 as the will to act, it was created from Giorno’s Golden Will yet negates/erases any and all the wills of actions. Granted, I’m sure it’ll be surpassed with it’s AU version in Part 9 through November Rain or whoever the antagonist is.
Great theory I am in a similar boat and idk if araki saying that calamity is the hardest thing to face makes it the strongest tbh and just means that it is the most deadly to me
WoU bypasses GER's ability since calamity and logic is the source of all concepts including fate which is GER's ability. Not to mention the ability only activates if someone intents to harm Giorno, and since Calamities are automatic that intention doesn't exist so even then Giorno would be hit fully by the Calamity.
@@reflex9238 that would work differently since fate allowed the go beyond bubbles to function and for logic to function and also wou doesnt directly control logic and only controls calamity through logic
@@saifkhan-kc9ec it’s stated that the flow of calamity is the flow of logic. If you want to talk about fate, the level at which GER can manipulate fate is universal+ with his causality manipulation. WoU stands above D4C Love Train which is stated to transcends dimensions putting it at multiversal levels of power. Also it’s stated that WoU is Calamity itself.
Of course soft and wet go beyond can overcome time and gravity , as it doesn’t exist anywhere in this world so it is not being affected by these concepts , therefore it would definitely beat ability’s like the world or d4c
According to Araki, the strongest stand in JoJo is Gold Experience Requiem (GER). Its ability, "Return to Zero," allows it to nullify any action or attack by resetting it back to its point of origin, even if it has already happened. This makes GER virtually invincible and unbeatable in any fight.
I finally understood the difference between The World and King Crimson when I thought about it like a VCR/DVD/Blu-ray/etc player. The World is the pause/play button, and King Crimson is the skip-forward button.
This is why I love Jojo man. The power scaling is so different from other anime. Instead of screaming or training to destroy universes, characters use their brains and their bizarre abilities to outsmart their opponents. Another anime I like that is similar is Hunter x Hunter
While I think this is overall a really good analysis, I do think that there are certain aspects about WoU that you skipped over. WoU aside from redirecting the flow of calamity is also able to INCREASE it overall, it’s not just bad luck happenings but manipulating elements around their pursuers to damage and kill them. For example, when first pursuing the HD both Josuke and Mamezuku aren’t being affected by specially strong forces, Mamezuku only bumping into chairs obliterated both his legs, and both of them staging a stakeout on the lambo on top of tree ended up with the rain attacking them simply with touch. So really I do think that WoU manipulation of calamity flow really manages to be the strongest ability yet.
@@LandBraker2025Why did you say almost? In DragonBall the characters have been capable of destroying planets and withstanding attacks that can destroy planets long before GT and Super.
By the way, when it comes to Made In Heaven, I don't think he controls the time of his surroundings, he only controls the time for himself. Just like C-moon, instead of making gravity or time go the way he wants he just stands on a wall for example and the gravity changes after him as he is the center of gravity, but in MIH's case, he decides the flow of time for himself and the world goes with him as he is the center of time, the reason this ability doesn't work on living beings is because his stand's hierarchy above time in that situation. Like with C-moon, everyone moved according to pucci's standing position but he himself was not bound to it and could walk on walls whenever he wanted. Same goes for here, the time moves faster but only pucci can decide in which speed he goes himself and no one else has the ability to move faster except pucci. In short: MIH does not change the flow of time, instead it changes the flow of time for Pucci and makes the world move at a relatively similar speed to Pucci
Calamity (and its inverse fortune) is the strongest power because it is an absolute force and requires no input to operate optimally. The power of GER and Tusk is absolute but requires the users to give them the commands and the users can theoretically be tricked or ambushed before they get a chance to react. Wonder of U and Love Train automatically protect their user and make them nigh invincible. While outrageously powerful, it is still theoretically possible to beat DIO, Diavolo, or Pucci with normal stands. However, outside of plot devices and deus ex machina's there is no way to beat Valentine or the head doctor.
(Im an anime only but ive been spoiled to oblivion so ive stopped giving a damn.) Wonder of U has become my favourite stand already! I dont know the users name neither did i know Josuke beat him. I just know Wonder of U's ability and the song its named after and i absolutely love it. It might be my love for Elvis Presly's song rubbing off, Or me just finding the ability/concept of *Calamity* intriguing. I just know, that Wonder of U is my absolute favorite stand of all time!!!
Part 9s antagonist will definitely have some op stand that can control what Jodio calls “Mechanisms” like WOU and love train On a side note I think the green babys stand is one of the most broken stands in the series. Similar to WOU if you pursue the baby you shrink, never being able to reach him.
The ability to control mechanisms. That be the stronger then calamity. Josuke learned how to get around the mechanism of calamity but not control it. What if in Part 9 the ability to control all mechanisms comes into play
It’s easily Hierophant Green, because no one can deflect the Emerald Splash
um ok
GER got nothing on the 20-Meter Emerald Splash
"Go ahead, Jojo, call the police. They cant un-donut Kakyoin"
Jotaro did tho
@@purpleweeb1274 it’s a meme, can’t believe that joke went over your head.
After talking about W.O.U this was the last vid bro ever made he succame to the calamity effect RIP 😭
Huh. W.O.U. -> Woe. Which is synonym of Calamity.
he succed AND came??!!!
Wonder of U is also peak design. Clean fit
One of the best stand designs in my opinion.
dripping like 3 broken faucets
wonder of u has a cool name, an op ability and a drippy outfit, WHAT MORE COULD YOU WANT FROM A STAND??
Wasted potential, Tooru could've been so much more.
Strongest stand and drip
The thing that makes Wonder of U's ability perhaps both the strongest and the scariest ability of all Stands in Jojo, in my opinion, is the fact that it's a passive ability. You can technically defeat The World and D4C before they were to use their abilities, but not WoU. WoU can be miles away from you and you might die from tripping, simply because you were planning to go after the Head Doctor.
Yeah META video covering Wonder of U made the best line to describe why the stand is truly horrifying. "In JoJo the fundamental rule for a stand fight is to get to know the stand and know how it works. Wonder of U breaks this rule. As this very concept is how Wonder of U attacks you"
Isn't the head doctor just wonder of u in disguise remote controlled by tooru?
@@thinkinyblinko6666 Yes.
so a piloted stand?
@@JohnWilliams-wl9px Sounds like an cognitohazard SCP
I really enjoy the increasing complexity of stands in JoJo. It started with simple abilities like Star Platinum and The World being able to stop time, and now we have this steampunk looking fella and his Terraria Calamity or whatever.
I'm a really big fan of when manga authors are able to effectively increase the power scale of their stories whilst keeping the lore interesting. Araki is truly one of he best to ever do it.
It has gotten a bit out of hand hasn't it 😅
bro they added terraria calamity mod to jojo bizarre adventure 🤯
@xForts I think WoU is about to sell me the clentaminator lmao
@Dom Ware I love his writing. Almost every character is recognizable, even the minor characters
Can't wait to see the reveal of jojo's new strongest stand - Araki's Door. It would allow Rohan to turn every part of the series into a new chapter of Thus Spoke Rohan Kishibe
What we betting that the Rohan in part 9 is the Rohan from thus spoke and part 4
@@justsomeguypostingmemes945 it literally is him. Same person. Not an alternate version, it's actually just part 4 Rohan.
Fr? @@ChaotiX1
@@gilboimesh3583yeah
Watch, The JoJoLand's main antagonist is going to have one of the most broken abilities ever.
I doubt it will top WoU design wise, but I feel like Araki can go further with abilities.
inb4 Dragona tells Jodio November Rain's raindrops are actually spinning and can use the infinite spin
It's gonna have to be
@@xForts does anyone mind if something has to do with part 6 and did anyone ever think if Gwess helps we fucking Win 😂
Today I realized somehow that lowkey Dio created These two male twins having stands and their powers were lowkey meant to put an end to whoever would fuck up Dios plans so thats like for me 5 ways Dio won at the ending and lowkey got what he wanted
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As someone who’s been greatly inspired by JoJo,I’ve always thought of the whole concept of inevitability and how it affects everything. While it’s meaning is simple: All things must die,it’s also the most terrifying. All things must die. Sure,some things will outlive us and be around for far longer than we’ll ever know,but eventually they too will die. It’s always such an interesting thing to explore.
made in heaven speeds up inevitable when you think about it
Ikr? How can a piece of entertainment leave a message like that? I learned most of political science thru Star wars
@@Roundamation Because it's not media just to consume, it's art
Yeah, so much philosophy is filled in series.
What else is left there to explore?
I still love how stands, originally introduced as a method to seal the powercreep after Part 2, quickly devolved into multiversal powers anyway.
Stands in Part 4: I can breathe Fire and punch really fast and hard.
Stands in Part 8: I can shoot infinitely spinning bubbles which don't exist in this reality to overcome your multiversal control of bad luck.
At least he knows that he can once again cap the powercreep with each part. We won't have to see another Made in Heaven in the first chapters of jojolands
"Quickly" = 20 years?
No, the power creep is totally resolved because of fairly independent parts. Part 3 doesnt creep into the weaker part 4.
The hax is too much
Making his statement of Calamity being inevitable just part of his BS writing, as usual.
I love that the ultimate power in JoJo’s is the manipulation of fate and logic itself, and the part 9 gang just encountered a man who can theoretically rewrite logic itself at the personal level. The true ultimate stand.
You mean rohan?
Fun fact manipulate fate doesn't truly exist in jjba since reshaping destiny is also predestined mean that fate is also fated to
If you can change the fate then it also fated to that why it truly inescapable according to some panel in made in heaven arc
@@tuppiee1752 i mean how would u know its predestined since ger(an example) does it make it seem like he is acting out as fate or beyond fate and in both case fate is manipulated and ger is able to make different possiblities occur with absolute,its like saying that fate existing was fated which would not exactly work and ger being able to manipulate fate and be out of its bounds yet still be fated wouldnt make sense which araki showed by king crimson epitaph and idk which panel u refrencing but it could be that the person who said it doesnt know about stand like ger and statements by people are supposed to take literally since jotaro stating that "no stand can bring anyone to life" maybe a lie due to gold experience(even tho it was bruno returning its soul yet ge played a part to make it possible) and there are stands that are able to bring undead(if i remember correctly) and we cant take that as fact from jotaro so for now imma say ger is either outside fate or acts as fate
Btw puccis whitesnake could do something that even heavens door couldnt
@@saifkhan-kc9ec made in heaven arc there a panel that told you that "reshaping destiny is predestined" when pucci chasing emperio
And yes ger isn't manipulate fate in this question it simple all the movement all the idea was already predestined it already explain in part 6 that free will isn't actually exist it was loop the universe that would repeat itself
Noone in jojo truly overcome it
Since it fundamental force as pucci and dio said it a fundamental force or gravity how you overcome thing that is basically part of universe itself and it also the reason why you can still moving
11:38 I currently believe that “the mechanism” that Jodio spouts on about encompasses both fortune and calamity, it is the balance and flow of the logic of reality itself. I have a feeling that the idea of “Go Beyond” will be further explored by having Jodio develop his stand to go beyond the mechanism itself and control it to his will.
Just wait until part 10 and "the way" which will mix all previous concepts. And part 11's "The reason" which will be all the orher concepts combined.
@@an3582 part 9 is the last part bro.
@@infinitexcm8784 I don’t think this has been officially confirmed, unless I missed it
@@badpiggy2403 it has been when part 9 was announced
@@nannerbanana2504 Do you have a link to a statement from Araki or something of the like confirming this? I haven't heard of this and if it's true then I'd probably follow part 9 much more religiously.
I am gonna be real, Araki is such a genius the way he writes and portrays abilities, if It was me the series would be over after having a character that manipulates time, then space, then reality.
But Araki is able to think more and more interesting and complex abilities for his story, I can't even begin to imagine what he is gonna do for part 9
For real. I love how unique and thought out his stands and their interactions are. Genius.
I don't really think his super strong stands are why he is a great writer. Anybody could make a time stopping, time rewinding, good/bad luck stand. It's when he shows these stands in battle and how they one up eachother.
@@uatom nah these stand are more complicated than just rewinding time or time stopped in fact the detail that araki added to these ability aren't thing that other writer usually add it to the story
The detail like low gravity when dio is time stopped
Or dimensions travel that usually be seen in other anime but araki decided to added some detail that other anime didn't so is explained how it work D4C crossed to other neighbors universe by the power of gravity itself hold his body together that it not shattered while do dimensions traveling
These details seem to be isn't that important but in fact as a nerd that usually like to learn how universe work
It is possible to happen but what i mean possible isn't mean it might actually happened but due the fact that each stand of villain have interacted with gravity make it possible to happen because gravity itself is most complicated fundamental
And what make me realise this is jojo is a getting araki his way to explain all of these is insane he make nerd questions how this happens and still make normal ppl that know nothing about science able to enjoy the show
@@tuppiee1752true, like when Emporio beat Pucci by filling the room with oxygen, and since Pucci was moving faster he inhaled oxygen quicker, but that was my point, how he makes them top on another in a fight.
@@tuppiee1752 the fact all manga authors automatically know advanced physics always baffles me
The strongest STAND in JJBA is the friends we made along the way.
this is true
agreed
What an amazing 50 day adventure it’s been
The jobros
@@Alpha123k5 speedo wagon
Based interpretation. The thing about calamity coming from WoU is that it always manifests as a physical collision, with many boundaries and limitations, never anything more or less, meaning a being such as Kars, or DIO both of which having no real way to die from physical trauma alone would be more than capable of surviving calamities brought on by the stand. It shows Araki's dedication to the idea that no one being is stronger than the rest. There's always someone either smart enough to defeat you or strong enough to beat you. Even with Pucci's control of gravity, and by extension fate, he is still subject to these powers in the end through everyone's will and Emporio's strength and resolve. JoJo is peak.
This isn't true. The calamity caused the Locacaca to seal Josuke's mouth, preventing him from drinking any more, and caused worms to grow out of a cutlet. It's just that physical collisions are the simplest ways to manifest calamity.
For Kars, getting blown into the stratosphere itself is calamity. For Dio, getting brained is calamity. The definition of calamity is relative to the victim.
@@WingedValkyrie I didn’t recall his mouth sealing but the worms I do remember. But it’s too vague to say those are the calamities that would occur because EVERY single lethal calamity was from a collision of objects. As for dio losing his brain, this would not kill him, as he literally survived both the destruction of his stand and the loss of his head.
@@GhettoPeach He's not saying Kars will also get worms growing out him, but that calamity will simply show up in different forms to beings like Kars and Dio than it would to normal humans. Calamity takes many forms, sometimes it doesn't even physically harm. A moment that always stuck out to me in late part 8 was when Josuke blocked an advance from a random guy outside the hospital, and the dude's neck just breaks out of nowhere, right in front of a huge crowd. Josuke hasn't been harmed physically, but now he's wanted by the police. Thats what is being brought up here.
@@GhettoPeach One lethal calamity we see that is interesting is the one that affects the journalist pursuing the Head Doctor. It retroactively increases the potency of the locacaca juice that went into his body through a cut causing his neck to turn to stone. For Dio it could do something as unlikely as making a nearby star explode into a supernova and showering them with lethal UV light for example. For Kars it's tricky since we really don't know what the limits of his survivability are, but with Wonder of U anything can happen. No matter how improbable, if it's possible, it will affect him, maybe a meteor strikes his body and vaporizes him for example.
@@GhettoPeach did you forget how kars lost? he got collided from below into space lmao
and for dio its as simple as something happening to his building he's sleeping in during the day
It’s funny, Parts 3-6 Araki explores Time as the final confrontation. Now, SBR explores fortune and JoJolion delves into calamity. It’s possible that JoJoLands might explore disruption in logic and reality, considering how much Jodio goes into “The Mechanism”
Wonder of U is easily my favorite Stand for having such a cool ability and being a dapper fellow
Jojo really is a story about humans overcoming fate itself. The wonder of u was such a crazy stand cuz you literally couldn’t stop it once it got started. Reminds me how once you enter a string of bad luck, You can’t end it. You hope it ends, that’s why Toru said even if you stop me calamity still exists lol. Got me thinking Araki is saying overcoming fate is possible but even then you can’t escape its influence 😊
I always wondered; can you even say Love Train is Valentine's Stand? As he couldn't use it without Lucy. I'd say it was actually the Corpe's Stand, or even Lucy's, and Valetine's was channeling the Corpse's power through Lucy.
funny valentine needed the corpse parts to turn d4c to love train but i dont remember or heard that funny valentine needed lucy
I think the Corpse was a vessel that Valentine used to make his own unique stand stronger. The Corpse only unlocked his ability, Love Train. Just how certain people have stands, but won’t be awoken unless getting hit and surviving the arrow
Yeah that's what I remember as well. I don't think love train is part of D4C I'm pretty sure its Lucy's stand/ability and D4C was just taking advantage of it.
I like to think of it as Jesus's or the saint's stand where lucy was a sacrifice where D4C got ahold of the love train but it technically had nothing to do with Valentines stand
@@mightycake3373 he was literally entering the light emanating from lucys body
For how powerful Wonder of U is it sure got taken out like a chump. Character was just like "NO I'm not pursuing him" as she actively attacks him
Yasuho didnt attack though. She simply pointed her phone at Tooru. If josuke couldnt use go beyond at that moment she wouldve died. It was a last ditch effort not in attacking tooru but trusting josuke. And josuke didnt actually attack tooru per se. he directed his bubble through the phone which happened to be pointed directly at his head loool
I was referring to the mother using her stand on him
@@Trans4Hire what she did didn't count as an attack though. she said that herself it simply hides things between cards. it does no damage.
and she still received calamity for that by being stabbed with the garden knife anyway?
@@Trans4Hire And Kaato died due to that. It´s also equivalent exchange that killed Toru. Plain bad luck.
Also wonder of u wasn't taken out it's physical form was destroyed
the strongest stand is johnathans stand (real)
Real sounds like a powerful ass stand
real
*"So it's the same stand as Star Platinum"*
Didn’t dio in part 3 get Jonathan’s stand
real
i feel like calamity, infinite spin, love train, and wonder of u can just be explained way more succinctly as "it's feng shui and feng shui manipulation"
like, if you were to take dragon's dream and use its compass while pursuing wonder of u, you'd see your lucky spot constantly shifting away from you as reality changes to keep you on your unluckiest spot at all times
I'm surprised you didn't mention how Dragon's Dream in Part 6 pretty much explained how "Fate" was simply the interplay of Fortune and Calamity...
Literally if it wasn’t part of the worst fight, it would literally be considered as one of the strongest stand in the series. The only one in main cast of p6 that could fight him was FF, anyone else like say weather report would just die quickly.
@@asmagamer728 Weather Report would've pulled water mirror trick much easier and quicker lol, FF lived only because she can afford to make that many mistakes.
@@exploertm8738 That’s sort of the point because ff can make that many mistakes
The strongest stand is clearly Hey Ya!
If Wonder of U's calamity hits you as bad luck, then having a stand that gives you awareness of your GOOD luck should allow you to cancel it out yes?
Although an interesting theory, I really don't believe that [Hey Ya!] would be able to counter [Wonder of U]'s ability. Demonstrated towards the end of Part 7, Funny Valentine, with all of the good luck on his side, was still overcome by Tusk Act 4's infinite spin, and in one scene, Funny Valentine mentioned "Is this a calamity?!". Araki, towards the end of part 8, stated that "Calamity" was the most powerful ability/concept in which he has worked with. Calamity is not really luck either, with it being the overall and generalized idea of "negative energy" seen throughout one's reality. Calamity doesn't have to only affect things physically, with it being able to affect one mentally and spiritually as well. (Calamity is a flow, a screaming rapid, in which no one can pass. Ones who dare to go against the flow, will be swept away, perishing.)
@@T1meSa1dbro make a TH-cam vid
Friendly reminder: Hey Ya! doesn't bless the user Pocoloco is just very lucky, Hey Ya is his subconscious telling him what to do which he was going to anyway
No. Having awareness of your good luck is useless when you're permanently trapped in a flow of bad luck.
As many stands have complete reality-breaking abilities, it would all come down to which reality-breaking ability breaks the reality of the reality-breaking ability of the other stand user. In other words, with just the context from the series, it would be impossible to know which stand would overpower another unless if the two users actually confronted each other.
Basically out hacking and hack countering each other.
Undead Unluck has a lot of that but in more simpler terms.
For instance. Someone that can stop a wound from healing is a perfect match for someone who can't die and heal instantly.
Someone with infinite speed would be countered by someone who can halt anything they look at
And finally someone who can make things explode on contact would be powerless against someone who can't be physically touched.
@@furionmax7824 King Crimson can defy fate. Dio's stand stops time. Would the differences made as a result of stopped time from a perspective in normal time go against the flow of fate? In other words, would Diavalo look into the future and see what looks like Dio teleporting? If he does, he could cut time and get out of the way when Dio should have "teleported" to kill him. If stopping time goes against fate, than Diavalo would see a future that would exist if stopping time didn't exist, which would make him unable to avoid Dio's fate-altering ability.
of course u could say star platinum is the strongest stand but thats just mid because it shouldnt even be able to stop time
@@OogaRequiem Have you even read the later parts?
The hand tho
The only thing that can stand up to calamity: mechanisms
GER: no
Wonder Of U: ability activates
GER: *trips over rock*
Trips over rock: no
GER: that's what I thought
Araki himself is the a calamity in the head omg this is mental madness at max
I like how Araki approaches power by how difficult it is to overcome when used properly. Sure Powerhouses like Tusk Act 4 and GER exist, but a ton of the boss fights are ended with knowledge and not just simply a greater power.
I just dont understand why nobody mentions that he said the strongest villain is wou and that excludes ger
@@soab2173exactly
GER is less a power in that fight and more just the payoff.
i think made in heaven directly affects time based abilities by shortening their duration and thus could beat any other time based stand due to the ensuing confusion and incredible speed
He can only accelerate time and nothing else, Jotaro stopped time when Pucci used MIH and could still have the regular length.
@@OmniKit the effect was extremely minor, only allowing pucci to move his eyes but just like how dio's time stop got longer as he learned to use it, pucci probably could've learned to speed it up more
@@zoeblopaistinpannu5278 Jotaro still time stopped multiple times and nothing changed.
I also believe Wonder of U can be seen as the strongest because it's ability activates as soon as anyone even considers going after Toru. If any of the past antagonists fought against him, they are physically stronger and have more battle focused stands but "Wonder of U" takes affect as soon as the person begins to think against or go after it, so it's possible to say it's ability affects the entire world around it after it is triggered, but unlike Pucci which is an ability that affect everyone equally, "Wonder of U" focuses only on the enemy.
The strongest stand is Speedwagon’s stand
Agreed.
The power to throw a wagon at any speed he wants instantly killing anyone
Stand user: Speedwagon
Stand name: money money money
Stand ability: support the Joestar financially
Speedwagon just stands
I never see anyone discuss that after Wonder of U was destroyed the calamity that surrounded it (cleverly depicted as its clothing) still existed beyond Toru and WoU itself.
Your videos are amazing! Keep up the amazing work!
Thank you!
[Part 7 and Part 8 spoilers if you haven't got there]
Just thinking,
If Soft & Wet: Go Beyond is an extension of the Spin, and, my memory is correct, Johnny was able to have Tusk Act 4 move during Diego's The World Stopped Time, I'm pretty sure Go beyond can trump the Time Stop as well.
Can't wait to see how The Hustle is stupid broken in Part 9.
The hustle is Paco's stand (side Character)
Thank you for mentioning that calamity itself is the most powerful force and not just WoU. So many take this quote as Araki stating WoU is the strongest when that's not what hes saying WoU can manipulate calamity but just like the World has limitations on how long it can stop time, WoU has limitations on its ability to manipulate calamity.
1. You must be pursuing WoU
2. It can be inconsistent and unpredictable with how the victim will experience negative calamity.
The only other thing I'll say and I may be wrong on this and that's why I'm rereading Jojo, I don't believe Love Train is actually part of D4C's ability. More or less Love Train was Lucy Steel's ability but Funny Valentine and D4C was taking advantage of it. Similar to Kira using Stray Cat for its air bubbles.
Your correct about love train it isn’t technically d4c ability more of valentine using Lucy. However if I remember right valentine used D4c to sort of “guide” love train and keep it active on him.
What's interesting is how Calamity is referenced a lot in Jojolion and Wonder of U manipulates calamities. So maybe the main villain of Jojo Lands will be able to manipulate or alter the Mechanism of nature that was explained in the first 3 chapters of Jojo Lands?
WOU's calamity, in my mind at least, cannot hurt D4C Love Train due to their abilities quite literally cancelling eachother out. Calamity is an unstoppable force of Murphy's Law against Love Train's immovable wall of positive fortune
calamity is a logic within the jojo world, it transcends, concepts, time, and dimensionality. By this, valentine knows about toru, he activates it to try and defend or pursuit against him, but it doesn’t activate since he trips on a rock and dies by hitting his head.
Bro imagine if Hey-Ya! isn't just a cheerleader but its ability is actually to protect Poco-Loco from calamity and the negative flow of energy.
The Soft and wet go beyond is the highest above all till now but still i can't get or process how good and complex Araki make his stand in manga like wth
Soft and wet go beyond feels like it is specifically designed to destroy wonder of u
@@AlbertWesker-uk3uv It's weird because it is and it isnt. It took a lot of extreme circumstances just to land an attack with it. Really showed how strong WoU's ability actually is.
@@FatalityPWN we'll have to wait and see if S&W Go Beyond ever gets mastered or something
@@FatalityPWN The way i interpret it, is that it is an attack of a single bubble that erases everything, cream style, that also ignores every stand ability and rule.
The attack is completely unstoppable but it isn't exactly an instant win. It's not super fast, doesn't deal a lot of damage unless hit in the head or heart and it'd be super hard to aim out of your shoulder without Yasuho.
@@Crabgar isnt that the bubble exists beyond existence. using the video's example, S&W Go Beyond powers literally exists outside of the bubble of existence with positive and negative energies. its just a normal spinning string thats not powerful, but all form of rule or logic doesnt apply to it.
Given that the only way to defeat the last villain was a power that doesn't exist, I wonder what kind of crazy stuff the part 9 characters will bring on the table.
Personally I believe that Jodio's stand has something to do with gravitational acceleration, which could tie together both gravity and spinning.
His stand has a LOT of potential for some God-tier ability. In the hands of Araki, I fear that is a valid possibility
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well gravity and spin are already tied together if thats what you mean
Nah instead we got rain that fucking crushes you 💀
I’m just saying, D’arby was one word from taking out the entire squad single handedly
And he inspired an entire new anime, that’s meta
Calamity is probably just an introduction of a new force type that stays on equal with the others. Just like time can make your enemy freeze in place but you will still fall aside if the enemy is C-moon, Calamity is just another force of nature that can be manipulated and is on the same level as basic reality fabrics that other strong stands can control. I think Araki just considers stands of those types, that can decide or change the rules of reality, the same in power level. The only stand that currently stands out of this bound currently is GER, which is shown to be able to affect other stands directly by canceling their abilities. This may mean 2 things, first is that we just don't understand GER's power yet, and second, is that we overestimate the limitations of GER's abilities. Unless one of those statements is true it means that "Araki Forgot" which sounds lame and I prefer thinking of another explanation to how GER works to solve that paradox.
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Fucking loved this video! The way you worded Wonder of U's "logic" and how you managed to tie it in to both continuities is brilliant. I always described WoU to my non JoJo fan friends as being the combined laws of Murphy and Karma, but this is a far better explanation :D
My biggest JoJo question is since brains are the most complicated computers we know of, assuming Babyface can run more than just it’s ability, does that make it the strongest supercomputer ever made?
Actually the strongest ability is Elephant's Memory from the hidden stand that wipes Araki's mind and causes him to change the universe by forgetting what he wrote.
I love how the themes of some parts work. For me with Golden Wind being Fate, it helped me accept my first marriage ending and learn to move on. But to now look at calamity and apply it even shows me now that fate isn’t just the bad, but also the good. Weird how that can work.
I personally believe its between Wonder of U and GER since they both directly hard counter "pursuit"
GER isn't even top five
Have you ever thought about doing a video on some of stands we never really got to see the true potential of cause of various reasons? I can think of a few that come to mind.
imo a lot of part 3 stands were actually really dangerous, but the crusaders were just so cracked that they made them look like idiots (which a lot of them also were)
Remember Metallica? yeah that one had a lot of potential
@@deeptigupta3346i mean kind of but not the biggest example.
Still think GER is the strongest, but as a requiem stand is a special case, and Giorno needs to pierce Golden Experience with the arrow, so normally WoU is the strongest.
I mean calamity is not a direct attack so GER can't RTZ it
GER cannot RTZ Calamity since it is not a direct attack to WoU, it's literally just a natural force of the universe redirecting itself to eliminate harm, not by WoU's command
@@13feedo It doesn't say anywhere that GER only works with direct attacks
@@morgansboobies It doesn't say anywhere that GER only works with direct attacks. WoU manipulates the flow of calamity, but after he is defeated by Josuke he's gone... It doesn't mean that he has eliminated the "misfortune" from the world forever.
9:52 you forgot to mention that wonder of u made rain as strong as bullet attacking josuke
Araki is just on amother level. He literally writes his own concepts of the universe.
Great video. I secretly loved powerscaling back then, not so secretly nowadays. I didn't even know about the Araki volume quote. But I would've picked Wonder of U at least once anyway. It's insanely strong and we don't know its boundaries, because calamity simply exists in jojo, even if you were to travel across dimensions, time travel or whatever. That universal application makes it so scary.
honestly, i STILL don't know how we're just gonna forget about giorno bro. ONE SEASON is NEVER enough for that guy
I mean… if diavolo used king crimson’s ability and Dio was gonna use the time stop in any of the seconds in which king crimson’s ability was in effect then diavolo would simply see dio like he sees everyone else in time skip with the exact same rules except that in the seconds dio would be using time stop (thanks to king crimson’s ability) diavolo would be the only one to not be affected by it, therefore, (as long as it was inside of the period in which time skip was in effect) during the seconds in which Dio would be stopping time he would see everyone and everything still, apart from Dio, which he would be able to watch as he moved in stoped time. But diavolo can interact with dio in interactions that only come from Diavolo to dio(except for the ones that diavolo would allow, like it happens when he has a conversation with bucciarati) and dio still can’t hurt him while he is in the time skip. That’s assuming that they wouldn’t both be able to coexist in that spectator dimension, since their abilities are different and diavolo technically goes into a spectator dimension, that G.E.R. can also access or overlap,(not 100% sure but I think it’s the second one) not like Dio and jotaro which turn all of their surroundings into a stoped state. Dio and jotaro don’t “physically exit” their plane of existence, they instead, to a certain range, put their surroundings on a stoped state that doesn’t affect the ones who possess and to a certain level unlock the ability but they themselves and their stands are always coexisting with everything and everyone around them. It only happens that those surroundings are under the effect of stoped time. Diavolo and [Giorno]-(who is technically only in terms of consciousness not present), in the other hand, thanks to their stands, can [themselves] be in a state that makes them immune to all interactions coming from the exterior of that state of spectator and editor, but some of those privileges and abilities only possessed by the user and/or the stand to do certain things in that state can be given to other entities if the user and/or the stand allow it.
-⭐️In conclusion⭐️:
Dio and jotaro, with the time stop ability of their stands
unlocked, both put their surroundings in a state of disadvantage towards them while still being in the same plane of existence, even, if only them are conscious during that period;
but diavolo and giorno with their abilities put themselves, rather then their
surroundings, in a state where they are temporarily (or not, depending of G.E.R.’s extent of his abilities) in a superior plane of existence in which they can affect others and not be affected by them (except for certain abilities that can be given access to use by the user and/or stand) rather putting themselves in a position of advantage and immunity towards exterior forces rather then putting the surroundings and the entities present in them(their surroundings) in a state of disadvantage and incapability towards themselves.
Ps:
If dio stops time, before diavolo can activate time skip, and he is able to kill diavolo before stopped time runs off, then he wins.
But Giorno with G.E.R. could probably completely ignore and overlap Dio/the word’s ability to stop time, so if it was Giorno with G.E.R. against Dio then(in my understanding of the series, no matter what, Giorno would win.
I’ve spend way to much time writing this(definitely more then 1 hour but maybe not 2).
Pls leave a like. ⭐️
Hope this entertained and informed u(if my understanding of the series is correct) ⭐️
So what you are saying is that... all the bad things we suffer on an almost daily bases... **IS** the work of an enemy stand?
xForts makes a video what called "The strongest stand in JoJo according to Araki"
XForts: *makes a 11 MINUTE video answering the title's question rather than saying the stand's name immediately and what it can do*
Stick to shorts
I remember a guy saying that tooru beat valentine and when he gave him arguments why he didn't refuse to debate it
now this video shows that i was wrong
However, the guy had the support of the author himself and even so he could not argue or read arguments from others
just a normal day in jojo fandom
W vid i rly likes how u explained calamity and the concept of WOU
With Wonder of U being the strongest stand, wouldn't D4C: Lovetrain not be able to avoid calamity? Wouldn't it just redirect the calamity to another place on earth?
That's exactly what I thought
Yes but Love Train is temporarily.
Yes
@@tooruwou4657 glad to hear it from the source
i think the strongest is a simple context, especially in jojo, the strongest is just the one that comes out on top, if wonder of U is defeated, then he wasn't the strongest, forget plot armor, forget story telling, if someone comes out on top no matter what, they are the strongest, that is that
This has the best explanation of wonder of u I've seen so far it makes it so clear and simple you should do something similar with go beyond
I think by the end, jodio will have the power of calamity, he's already shown a respect for the "mechanisms" at play and has a stand that just tears people and objects down. With the added context in the beginning with him being eluded to as a psychopath, it wouldn't be too far off to speculate that november rain could inflict calamity upon those he sees fit
I always felt it was safe to assume that something that can go beyond logic, concepts, and existence, can go beyond the concept of time and gravity considering they both exist simultaneously. This is my opinion but, Soft & wet go beyond is the strongest stand and can negate any defensive concept, but it isn't the best stand. Going with my initial argument, it's safe to assume Gappy's bubbles can move and attack within any time manipulation ability, but how is gappy supposed to know to shoot the bubble before time stop, skip or reversal, or even GER's Revert to zero?
I'm surprised rarely anyone make this connection but Go Beyond is pretty much Killer Queen+Stray Cat combo, its a hard counter situation that allow it to beat one of the strongest stand in the series, but to be used against normal enemy? like Wonder of U doesnt attack n barely move, he fires those bubbles one at a time, if he miss(n probably will bcuz he cant control fully it) there is no point in those reality bending bubbles
i think soft and wet: go beyond! still comes out on top because it was kinda described to move outside of the realm of logic and reality. if all the other super powerful abilities all manipulate something grounded in reality (time, gravity, fate, death, calamity, the universe, infinity, etc.), then go beyond! can break through that
Look, say whatever you say about ability, stats and over all impact on the franchise, I get it.
BUT, I will not discuss this one fact with anyone
WoU got the sickest drip in all Universes.
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Bro forgot that no one can deflect the emerald splash
Wasn't it said that Gold Experience Requiem stops actions of injustice before they begin? Would someone like Pucci or Valentine be unaffected, seeing as they believe they are in the right, where as Diavolo or Kira, who know what they are doing is wrong, be stopped in their tracks?
G.E.R.'s ability nullifies all harmful actions against Giorno back to when they were just a thought. It has nothing to do with what the attacker's intentions are.
@@classicterrysilverw6864 In the first G.E.R chapter:
"All that will survive... is the REALITY of this world...
RIGHTEOUS ACTIONS born from reality will never be annihilated."
And
"Are your actions born of reality? Or are they born of superficial evil? We're about to find out. In the end. Will you be able to escape annihilation?"
And Requiem in stopped time says that Diavolo's actions will never reach truth, where only the righteous can.
"Or plain door falling from the sky".
Yeah I hate it when I have a bad day and random door just falls from the sky towards me.
I dont even have to watch its obviously cheap trick
while calamity in the new universe is terrifying i think the concept of fate controlling everything in our lives and it being unavoidable unless you are someone like giorno is also quite scary
I still firmly believe GER Is the strongest stand in all of JoJos for now still since while King Crimson simply removes the presence of the Cause ever happening but keeps the Effect, GER erases both, which in turn will completely cancel out any action.
Many have taken it, that it must be a direct attack in order for it to trigger its defensive power but due to it’s AOE (Area of Effect) as well as its secondary ability, this is actually a fallacy, and is only dependent on its own will as anything that even remotely harms Giorno or the existence of anything around him.
Simply put GER is a living singularity, it’s the power of zero never allowing anyone to reach 1 as the will to act, it was created from Giorno’s Golden Will yet negates/erases any and all the wills of actions.
Granted, I’m sure it’ll be surpassed with it’s AU version in Part 9 through November Rain or whoever the antagonist is.
Go Beyond literally does not exist in reality so GER can't do anything against it's attack.
Great theory I am in a similar boat and idk if araki saying that calamity is the hardest thing to face makes it the strongest tbh and just means that it is the most deadly to me
WoU bypasses GER's ability since calamity and logic is the source of all concepts including fate which is GER's ability. Not to mention the ability only activates if someone intents to harm Giorno, and since Calamities are automatic that intention doesn't exist so even then Giorno would be hit fully by the Calamity.
@@reflex9238 that would work differently since fate allowed the go beyond bubbles to function and for logic to function and also wou doesnt directly control logic and only controls calamity through logic
@@saifkhan-kc9ec it’s stated that the flow of calamity is the flow of logic. If you want to talk about fate, the level at which GER can manipulate fate is universal+ with his causality manipulation. WoU stands above D4C Love Train which is stated to transcends dimensions putting it at multiversal levels of power. Also it’s stated that WoU is Calamity itself.
Of course soft and wet go beyond can overcome time and gravity , as it doesn’t exist anywhere in this world so it is not being affected by these concepts , therefore it would definitely beat ability’s like the world or d4c
According to Araki, the strongest stand in JoJo is Gold Experience Requiem (GER). Its ability, "Return to Zero," allows it to nullify any action or attack by resetting it back to its point of origin, even if it has already happened. This makes GER virtually invincible and unbeatable in any fight.
Bro just ignored everything 💀
Araki said it was WOU not GER
Its wou araki said
Araki has confirmed stands such as Star Platinum and WoU to be stronger. Cope harder
As soon as I heard the dorohedoro ed playing in the background I knew I had to subscribe
I am and will always be a firm defender of Heaven’s Door
It isn't that powerful tho
@@ifanythingiwant It has the ability of TWOH but with books
@@Joker_Zz Not at all. Heaven's door IS extremely powerful, but it's far from the strongest.
@@Joker_Zz it has unclear bullshit limitations, so no, unlike Bohemian Rhapsody
Imagine two stand users throwing hands at TGU hospital and one accidentally throws an attack which fataly damages the Head Doctor or Tooru
its probably the hand if okyuaso wasnt so fucking stupid
I finally understood the difference between The World and King Crimson when I thought about it like a VCR/DVD/Blu-ray/etc player. The World is the pause/play button, and King Crimson is the skip-forward button.
The strongest is the plot armor itself
This is why I love Jojo man. The power scaling is so different from other anime. Instead of screaming or training to destroy universes, characters use their brains and their bizarre abilities to outsmart their opponents. Another anime I like that is similar is Hunter x Hunter
While I think this is overall a really good analysis, I do think that there are certain aspects about WoU that you skipped over. WoU aside from redirecting the flow of calamity is also able to INCREASE it overall, it’s not just bad luck happenings but manipulating elements around their pursuers to damage and kill them. For example, when first pursuing the HD both Josuke and Mamezuku aren’t being affected by specially strong forces, Mamezuku only bumping into chairs obliterated both his legs, and both of them staging a stakeout on the lambo on top of tree ended up with the rain attacking them simply with touch. So really I do think that WoU manipulation of calamity flow really manages to be the strongest ability yet.
Alright this video convinced me to finish reading Jojolion. I luckily haven't seen any spoilers regarding the ending of Part 8
And someone will still say goku solos
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I mean how can wonder of you kill goku like he can almost with stand a blast that can destroy a planet
@@LandBraker2025 you think Goku can survive misfortune itself?
@@LandBraker2025Why did you say almost? In DragonBall the characters have been capable of destroying planets and withstanding attacks that can destroy planets long before GT and Super.
By that logic, it's only reasonable to conclude that the antagonist in The JoJolands will control mechanisms.
I think Bohemian Rhapsody is stronger in a calamity way that is worse...
By the way, when it comes to Made In Heaven, I don't think he controls the time of his surroundings, he only controls the time for himself. Just like C-moon, instead of making gravity or time go the way he wants he just stands on a wall for example and the gravity changes after him as he is the center of gravity, but in MIH's case, he decides the flow of time for himself and the world goes with him as he is the center of time, the reason this ability doesn't work on living beings is because his stand's hierarchy above time in that situation. Like with C-moon, everyone moved according to pucci's standing position but he himself was not bound to it and could walk on walls whenever he wanted. Same goes for here, the time moves faster but only pucci can decide in which speed he goes himself and no one else has the ability to move faster except pucci.
In short: MIH does not change the flow of time, instead it changes the flow of time for Pucci and makes the world move at a relatively similar speed to Pucci
Calamity (and its inverse fortune) is the strongest power because it is an absolute force and requires no input to operate optimally.
The power of GER and Tusk is absolute but requires the users to give them the commands and the users can theoretically be tricked or ambushed before they get a chance to react.
Wonder of U and Love Train automatically protect their user and make them nigh invincible. While outrageously powerful, it is still theoretically possible to beat DIO, Diavolo, or Pucci with normal stands. However, outside of plot devices and deus ex machina's there is no way to beat Valentine or the head doctor.
Ger is also automatic
The music in the background really brings back memories of diamond is unbreakable
damn i never realised that araki uses philosophy to make the abilities for the main character and main villains in jojo now thats some deep shit
Most of Araki's writing is based on curiosities of human nature and the universe. He's just interested in how things work.
Okay that Persona 4 Soundtrack in the background really reminds me of good memories
Wonder of U is definitely the strongest stand. Honestly the fact it’s deadass invincible is crazy enough without even talking about the ability
True
Invincible?
@@samueloak1600 did i stutter or have you not read the final chapters?
@@datboy038 Is Yellow Temperance invincible now?
@@samueloak1600 i honestly doubt it why?
9:11 bro Araki made a understanding of fate/karma/luck as a "Extra Dimension"😮🤯 👏🏾Gr8 video matey noting this one down
(Im an anime only but ive been spoiled to oblivion so ive stopped giving a damn.)
Wonder of U has become my favourite stand already! I dont know the users name neither did i know Josuke beat him.
I just know Wonder of U's ability and the song its named after and i absolutely love it. It might be my love for Elvis Presly's song rubbing off, Or me just finding the ability/concept of *Calamity* intriguing.
I just know, that Wonder of U is my absolute favorite stand of all time!!!
You gotta catch up on the manga bro
@@mydrillasanjay5397 soon. Almost done with Stone ocean.
@@technos_orphan_obliterator Stone ocean had an anime, or are you reading the manga
@@obeseoverlold ill finish the entire anime and then read from p7.
Part 9s antagonist will definitely have some op stand that can control what Jodio calls “Mechanisms” like WOU and love train
On a side note I think the green babys stand is one of the most broken stands in the series. Similar to WOU if you pursue the baby you shrink, never being able to reach him.
I recall the anime director joking that Harvest is the strongest stand. Since it was the hardest to animate.
the fact that all this stand calamity universe thing in JoJo was all started by a vampire wanting to take over the world.
What does wou do? 0:14
Win
Calamity
A stand that puts the world against you when you try to attack or pursue the user; When provoked Wonder of U's ability activates giving you Calamity.
The ability to control mechanisms. That be the stronger then calamity. Josuke learned how to get around the mechanism of calamity but not control it. What if in Part 9 the ability to control all mechanisms comes into play