Love that you can take the batteries out and charge in your home, office, or whatever destination you drive to, even if they have no EV charging. Could even charge the batteries in a hotel room or from portable solar panels at the beach :D
@@pazznecht one reviewer asked and they said they were about 26lbs /11.79kg. Not light, but most folks can carry one. Uses 4 of them. Not sure if they all have to be installed.
I love this thing. For me, it's for trips to the store, short errands, and a toy for buzzing around to get a burger or take the dog to the park. (Yes, I can see putting my dog in the back seat.) I would be a customer, even though I live in a rural area.
Not sure I agree with that... This car on the road would be a death trap against other cars. The only way to make it safe for the road would be to create an alternate road system made exclusively for these.
I test drove an Arcimoto a few months ago and didn't get along well with the motorcycle controls. I would be much more interested in something like this with a steering wheel. Best wishes getting to production!
Really neat vehicle. I can visualize this being a perfect fit for my wife and I. We use the freeway about once a week but for only 5 miles. There are many side street routes that we would use instead and it wouldn't lengthen the path. Good job!! Looking forward to more on this vehicle.
I appreciate the opportunity to see this new vehicle and the perspective Monroe can give. I would have preferred more technical questions to be asked rather than have Carl's perspective given. Example Carl provided his perspective on potential markets when the creator is standing there who likely has done the market research. I think we want Monroe's perspective most of the time because you typically do not have the company rep with you. Thanks for all you do, just trying to give some feedback on the video!
Yeah Carl was just rambling on, covering far less interesting topics FIRST instead of going through the meat and potatoes of the vehicle, including specs, L2 charging, talking about the One S, etc. Lots of wasted time and Carl didn't seem to take it seriously. This was the opposite of the in-depth review I expected from Munro.
The form factor is more like the Renault Twizy ( th-cam.com/video/mIECtqau78g/w-d-xo.html ) we've had in Europe for the last 5 years. Of course Twizy is a 4 wheel and the Nimbus has far better specs than the Twizy. Hoping to see it in Europe soon!
@ We are actually more than 30% narrower than the Twizy. The streamlined profile allows us to fit into smaller parking spots and cut through heavy traffic or lane split (where it's legal)
I love this thing. 90 miles is really good especially considering that you could just buy extra batteries and carry them onboard it you really wanted to (I don't see much of a use-case for this, but still).
Sandy Munro and Team are fantastic! Really appreciate your videos and all you do for the consumers of vehicles. Especially love the Tesla breakdowns. Thank you all so very much for your wonderful insights and analysis. I am sure that my family is better off because of the great work you all do.
Great vehicle ! As somebody that was using motorcycle for commuting this would be a perfect vehicle for most of my needs. If it's drivable in winter that's even better!
16:10 Working with Sandy on the Tesla tear-downs, Carl should be aware that Tesla and many other EV batteries last up to 500.000 miles until they show noticeable range degradation. Even with a "only" 8 years or 150.000 miles warranty that's a good 12 years of ownership. His worry reflects common BEV worries that are often brought up in uneducated mainstream media but have no bearing on actual use-case properties.
You may get lots of "range" from an aging battery but the performance of that battery diminishes much quicker. The Tesla with 100k miles wont be quicker than a new one. In a gas car it's usually the opposite as engine tolerances expand.
@B.L. Alley Grow up. They are conveying their client sentiments or consumer research. It doesn't actually matter if the batteries fail, it is marketable to the masses that the batteries are replaceable. Right to repair is a huge issue right now. Only a fool wouldn't market swappable batteries if they get it automatically to enable charging the battery inside while leaving the vehicle outside. This swap feature will enable rental services that could rent out 10s of thousands of these on a college campus and people don't need chargers where they park if they can bring batteries inside to charge. Imagine as a student only paying 80-100 a month for a vehicle you can use all around town and to commute to class?
@@_PatrickO What constitutes a battery charge cycle? If it requires down to 20%, up to80% there is a problem. If you're at 30% and need 30% to make you're trip, you have no choice but to charge...and may actually use two cycles...30% to 60%; 60% to 20%; 20 % to 80%. If you have exchangeable battery modules, you can get complete cycles out of every battery module. It's kind of like an airplane with wing tanks...but different. With batteries you want to completely discharge a pack before recharging...and that means having a pack to switch to (e.g. the other wing tank).
Well done! I love it. Sometimes I need lumber or I go camping, but this little guy could do everything else. For 10,000$ it's reasonable to buy or rent one as a primary daily driver for someone like me who doesn't live downtown but I'm still on the street grid. Looks like fun too.
Does it have a charging port? Or do you have to remove the batteries to charge? Connector type? What is the charging rate? What was the battery capacity? What was the battery chemistry?
I like this concept better than the Arcimoto for one reason. it is an autocycle. By using a steering wheel and pedals it allows the driver to use it without a motorcycle license and without having to learn new skills. if it was slightly roomier it would be nicer. having a cargo set-up in the back to allow 2 passengers plus some gear is a bonus.
If you can push a shopping cart or ride a bicycle you can handle an Arcimoto FUV, no new skills required. This Nimbus looks sleeker but goes slower and less far than a FUV and it doesn't have nearly the same platform capabilities or room as a FUV. I suspect the upcoming tilting tech will also reduce their wheelbase i.e. width. This looks like a scooter replacement, the FUV is a vehicle that can replace a car. Plus I'm pretty sure this is Asia made whereas Arcimoto designs and builds their vehicles entirely in the US.
Arcimoto is an autocycle too. Most state are changing laws so autocycles have the same requirements as a car, not a motorcycle. Arcimoto can be bought with half doors now with heated seats and handle grips. They are also working on full doors and AC/heat. Also they will soon have torque vectoring software for better steering and control. Pasted all crash tests. Just as easy to operate as the Nimbus and roomier for both passengers. I could go on.....
Its like a 3 wheeled Twizzy. Great concept, it will have its place in transportation. At this price cheaper than many motorcycles. Of all those micro vehicle concept I like the Aptera best.
The Aptera is great but very pricey and doesn't lean. I too love that vehicle though. I've always wanted a leaning vehicle like the Carver One/EV but finally we have something coming, and it looks amazing.
The would be great for a large university campus staff transportation. We use lots of diesel carts. These would be nice and squeeze in tighter spots and easier parking.
Mark from Arcimoto said they specifically selected handlebars because these enable a more upright and close seating position, which enabled a back seat or storage area in a short body
Archimoto has a hump between your leg, making it a little difficult to get in and out. I like the Nimbus approach having a flat floor, plus more likely have lower center of gravity.
Perfect little work commuter! I drive 40 km each work day to the outskirts of my city where no public transit exists. Currently drive a newer gas cuv. I park on the street so I can't recharge it with a cord so portable batteries are great.
The batteries out idea is fabulous. This would tie in beautifully with the Gogoro battery swap system. They look to be very similar in size and functionality. Don't reinvent that particular wheel guys. Kerbside banks of chargers already in use. You never own the batteries so they're always up to spec., so don't sweat it Carl. The kerbside banks charge when cheap and also can be used for stabilisation of local grid. They're on YT and were also mentioned by YT channel The Electric Viking.
Some of us are well entrenched in the world of EVs and just want to charge the batteries in-situ. I've heard that the Nimbus One S batteries will stay in the vehicle. I'd want to charge using my Tesla Wall Charger and a J1772 adapter. Zero review videos have talked about what the charge port looks like. I wish someone would cover it. If it's a Tesla port, even better! I agree that removable batteries are good for apartment dwellers, assuming they can lug those around. Some people will probably struggle.
Good report, thanks. However, until you add mini “dead cats“ (wind muffs to your microphones like Rhode and DJI have on their integrated Bluetooth modules) the next best practice is to clip the body microphone so the capsule is under your shirt so it acts as a windscreen.
I love this vehicle, I think that practicality, ease of driving and fun are definitely there! It looks very similar to Toyota I-Road who was tested for years and unfortunately never made it to production. I would have liked more technical questions like: size of battery (kWh) and weight, top speed, braking efficiency, acceleration... In particular I would like to understand the behaviour when braking in a turn. Would it automatically bring it back to vertical when slowing down? While driving you said that leaning was directly related to steering: in reality it should be related to steering AND speed.
And very similar to the Renault Twizy whom I drive since 2012. But much improved in a very good way in some areas. Still keeping the big handicaps like the uncovered wheels. No side crash protection. Why not a top cover including doors that open when lifting up? Re cargo why not open/fill it from the outside back?
Hi Daniele, please check out our website for more specs: nimbusev.com. There is very little transfer between braking/acceleration and turning except at the limits of traction, like all vehicles.
@@nimbusev3942 Hi Nimbus, can you tell me which kind of charge port the Nimbus One S has? J1772? Tesla? I need to be able to charge with my Tesla Wall Connector (and adapter, if needed). Thank you! I agree that a more in-depth tech review would be great. I would also like to see the vehicle with doors on to see how they operate, but the low-profile opening looks truly innovative! I do think the cargo consideration needs work, but would love to see a cargo config with no rear seat. Even better would be a cargo area accessible from the rear like the SOLO, because going around the driver's seat might be a little awkward for groceries. The leaning is fantastic. We need to be able to remove the front cargo net on the dash as well as that humongous windshield wiper, even if it's required. In SoCal I won't need it 99% of the time. Thanks!
Thank you for sharing, looks good. Lights and interior accessories like entertainment and navigation complete with heating and cooling are not luxury items as you know a Kia or a small Hyundai has that nailed to perfection. But you already know that
I have been thinking about something like this for a year. I pulled the trigger on this one. Perfect fit between my Tesla and my ebike. I spend a lot of time in the Thumb around Caseville and this is a perfect match for the roads, speeds, and distances up there.
Wow, this is much cheaper then an Arcomoto. This is truly all people need to commute or run quick errands at a great price point. I’m Rooting for them. I would love to buy one of these for my 18miles round trip to work and back. Good luck!
I would consider a light off road version. Similar to a lifted golf cart. I need something for my construction site. Need some lockable space for tool storage as well.
Most people in urban areas live in condos and they need parking spots with chargers but that's very problematic from a cost perspective for almost all countries. That's why it wouldn't be all that bad if cars and smaller vehicles could harvest 3-10 km/day of solar energy. Maybe consider an option with a solar roof. Also a small cart on wheels for the removable batteries as an accessory could be a viable product, And a generator/UPS built around that battery bricks. Take this prototype to a few cities in Europe, then Vietnam, Cambodia, Tokio, South Africa, New Zealand and get some footage and some feedback.
Very confused by Carl's math at the end. 40k miles a year for 6 years is 240k miles. That's really heavy use. An ICE vehicle would need a whole lot of components replaced in that time. EVs have very good battery life (90% after 200k miles). I'd think, if he did the math, Carl would be much better off with an EV than with an ICE. You'd save so much on maintenance at that high run rate.
Depends on the vehicle. I've seen many Toyota corolla and Camry and Prius go well past that point with no major mechanical parts failing. My own 14 year old Prius has had 208,000 miles put on it in the last 4 years. It has 409,000 on it total. Total cost for me over the last 209K.. including fuel, and maint and tires is about $20,000 at current gas prices. I do all my own oil fluid changes, and repairs. That does save me a lot. Those numbers would be radically different on a Camry.
Munro enabled Arcimoto to get big $$ for their "hope you like the weather today" toy (I asked them if the founder's mother could get over the huge hump to get in it... still waiting). Nimbus is clearly at the "dialing for dollars" $$ stage and this exposure may help them. Much nicer design than the Arcimoto, but has a long way to go to be saleable and producible. To sell it for 10 grand, they will need a $ billion in capitol. Good Luck.
We're 30% narrower than the Twizy with swappable batteries and windows. The streamlined profile makes all the difference when in heavy traffic or when trying to find parking
The tilting Carver from the Netherlands has always been one of my favorite wish-list vehicles! However, their newer version, while now all-electric, is slower and has limited range. I suspect that the 94 mile range quoted by Nimbus is at 35 mph, much like the 100 mile range of the Arcimoto is for 35 mph- but at highway speeds, the Arcimoto range drops to about 35 miles. I suspect that the highway range of the Nimbus drops to about 30-35 miles as well. This makes it affordable- but it is very much limited to a neighborhood or downdown.
@@nimbusev3942 this was not to discourage your pursuit, or denigrate you product- just pointing out the limitations. But the market for a short-range, slow neighborhood vehicle is not going to play in the US- at least, not as more than a niche vehicle- it has been tried before. US Drivers want one car to do all those short, urban trips, as well as the longer weekend and vacation trips. Perhaps this will change in the future- but, as they say, tomorrow is promised to no man ;-) But best of luck!
@@paulcummings55No problem at all. We love hearing about people's perspectives. We believe the key to making a vehicle for local trips work is that it needs to be small enough and the price to utility (or fun) ratio high enough. A good example is the e-bike, which have been outselling electric cars in the US in the past 2 years.
Even 35 mph is too slow for surface streets where I live, but for short trips at 'normal' speeds I think this would suffice. I just need a ROBUST charging solution for the Nimbus One S I ordered, and that's using my Tesla Wall Charger with adapter (if needed). If the Nimbus has Tesla ports, even better (though not likely).
The vehicle brings memories back from driving the Toyota iRoad. Same concept, only with the rear wheel steering instead of the front wheels. I drove it in Grenoble (France) during the time that this mobility concept was tested there. It didn’t disappoint me. I still wonder why Toyota seems to have stopped the development of such a vehicle.
I like this little vehicle very much, and would choose it over any of the NEV's available in the US. But unlike an NEV, it's far more useful with a top speed of 50 mph. Perfect for errands in the neighborhood, but with the ability to additionally take on the numerous roads in my area with a 45 mph speed limit. Best of luck to Nimbus, and I hope you can bring this to market soon.
Does it have AC for Texas Gulf Coast summers? The ice cream in the groceries will melt before I get home otherwise. I notice a lot of wind noise with the doors off too. It should be a little wider too because I think my shoulders would be rubbing both doors. How about a roof rack too?
While our anatomy might be different to some degree, I would like to voice my opposition to your point. I drive about 40 or so miles to work and I would absolutely love the version that goes to 75 mph. The fact that it operates as a motorcycle class makes it more cost-efficient on insurance, it is electric, which pushes the eco-friendly and sustainable transportation industry, it has a roll cage to increase safety compared to a moped or motorcycle. It seems perfect for me. As owning a car is more expensive, it sells for cheaper than used electric cars with much older technology and batteries, and it can go a decent distance. I absolutely see this as more than a transportation unit within a small community. I also live in a small town and getting to the next city over is my need due to my city not having a college campus, so our circumstances are also different. But for a single guy who just needs to travel about 40-70 miles, this is perfect.
One of the use cases I didn't hear was that of the performance buyer. Granted, the Nimbus One is designed for urban commuting and affordable transportation, but the company previously suggested a performance variant called the Nimbus X. I think there's an enormous opportunity to fulfill a recreational promise. A weather-protected, tilting autocycle with exciting performance bonafides could seriously tap into the recreational motorcycle category. I suspect that option still exists in future development and I hope Nimbus receives the funding and market acceptance to pursue such a vehicle.
I didn't see some of the most important questions like; what is the battery chemistry? only seen 2 removable batteries does each one delivery 45 miles of range? They are small what is there weight and voltage? Removable battery would be a first for a small EV, solving the issue of no power outlets near by. Manufacturing in volume will be a real factor for Monroe to address. Hope it all works out, we seen what happened to other startups!
I am part of the “senior” demographic and would use this for errands around town, since I don’t need a big vehicle for toting anything big except me. So the one feature I like are the removable batteries, so anyone can replace them when they’ve lost their charge capacity. The only thing I’d like to see done is to stretch it a foot so rear passenger isn’t sitting in a cave. And a storage compartment in the back (a trunk?) so the rear passenger won’t be crowded out.. Not a bad idea, I am considering buying one when it goes in to production.
Carl, used golf carts can be $2k-3k. And last an owner years. For a retired couple or even on a campus, a 2-seater makes sense. Single seater for a city "walker" who wants to go farther and avoid the subway - might work, but a subway moving 500 people uptown off the streets rather than the same group heading uptown in 500 individual units needing to be charged is a step backward.
This would definitely be awesome for the markets you two described. I think the passenger seat/exterior back side of vehicle needs some refinement in its design for better utility.
It looks about as wide as a motorcycle handlebar. I wonder if it can use an EV charger or is it just 110v plug and how long to charge? The rear seat looks very small, I would want a bit more for shopping. How about a frunk?
This is pretty cool, would definitely use this for errands and daily commuting. Super excited about the removable batteries for charging and ease of replacement down the road as they age.
Have you checked out the Arcimoto FUV? It's pretty kick-ass and Munro is helping them develop it as well! Edit: On a sidenote, you shouldn't need to replace EV batteries ever. They should easily last for the vehicles lifetime.
@@Lobonova it's less safe than a car, but a lot safer than a motorcycle. The idea is that we'd replace most of our ridiculously large vehicles when traveling with 1 or 2 people, with lots of these so the safety becomes less of an issue and we save tons of energy and resources, and need a lot less tarmac and parking spaces to allow people to get around.
Around 20 years ago, Prodrive (Banbury UK) had a tandem seat lean steer called the Naro. The industry was largely disinterested though Peugeot and Toyota had their ideas for the same setup. Narrow cars turn extremely well when they lean and passengers feel no cornering forces. The hard part them was finding computers that could make the switch from low speed normal steering to high speed counter-steering. Bikers could do it fine without but average car drivers could not. Fit a steering wheel and nobody could drive it. Considerable computer power is needed. Even worse, you still have to fit a mechanical steering shaft. Not good when the wheels are doing the opposite of when the steering wheel is asking for.
There's no counter-steering happening from what I can see, certainly not from the driver. Maybe the founder can weigh in. I'm a motorcycle rider and EV fanatic.
Back in 1986, There was, in Vancouver, British Columbia, the Show: Expo '86! GM had a Pavilion there, and demonstrated (Live In a Video, and Maybe a Static Demo, I forget!) their Concept Vehicle, called "The Lean Machine" - a Small Scooter, with Full Teardrop Enclosed Body, over a Dual Back Wheel Drive Unit, that Leaned according to a set of Pedals, If I recall Correctly, and although the Drive Power was a small ICE unit, it still was Pitching 200 MPG! Better than the Typical BEV's eMPG Values of 80-140 or so "eMPG!" (equivalent MPG) The Lean Machine was Slicker in Style that this, but, oh well, it still should be interesting!
I could use this. This could replace my car for most trips. A little more storage behind the vehicle would be ideal. I think a good rack could fit a medium suitcase behind the vehicle. I really like the battery swap option and think that buying double the battery at purchase would help more people live with such a vehicle.
It was good to see at least parts of the campus again. How is Flint doing these days? I was waiting to hear tires screeching in the background, gunfire, or at least people approaching you with guns drawn and take the Nimbus away, where it would join the stripped down frames of former vehicles along the sides of the road a few blocks away. Things must have improved since the last time I was out there for you to make this shoot and none of that happened. I mean you even stayed outside for that long and you are still alive. Things must have improved out there. Did they ever fix the leg on the bulldog?
Suggest: drive into skinny parking spot straight in (+/- 5d)). Somebody parks straight in next to you. No problem. You can slowly back out 5ft using the key fob, hop in and you are done. Fob remote can also be used to park in a tight space. Dedicated Nimbus parking spots coud be more park more densely. Also there could be better utilization of preciously “lost” space at the end of rows.
The perfect daily commuting vehicle... with decent range. The price is balance by the TCO. Electricity maybe cost less than $1 a day. Should be aim at the Asian market. A billion people that travel everywhere on two-wheelers. Tap into that.
Really looking forward to seeing these in the UK. It takes the 3-wheel tilting trike up a few levels from what the Carver offers. Quality is better and having the removable batteries is great. Hope it has quick charging DC or AC - type 2 adapter for Europe.
Nimbus One S is the faster and more expensive version. It's under 14k and has a 75mph top speed, and probably has a good bit more range. I just put a deposit down on one today.
Rear view mirrors/camera essential. Opening windows in the doors, again essential. I live in Europe and would buy one because many towns have medieval streets. + many countries have non-poluting incentives.
Love that you can take the batteries out and charge in your home, office, or whatever destination you drive to, even if they have no EV charging. Could even charge the batteries in a hotel room or from portable solar panels at the beach :D
speaking solar panels, it could use some on its roof :)
that would also reduce theft and vandalism.
I suspect the batteries will be quite heavy.
@@pazznecht one reviewer asked and they said they were about 26lbs /11.79kg. Not light, but most folks can carry one. Uses 4 of them. Not sure if they all have to be installed.
@@anthropod76 You can run the vehicle on two batteries, but with reduced peak power and obviously range :)
I love this thing. For me, it's for trips to the store, short errands, and a toy for buzzing around to get a burger or take the dog to the park. (Yes, I can see putting my dog in the back seat.) I would be a customer, even though I live in a rural area.
Yay! Yup, that's what we designed the vehicle for - making local trips more fun and convenient
"my grandma crashed her motorcycle" - was not expecting that. Glad she is OK!
2 gens of women bikers, love to hear that story
Grandma got hit by a Reindeer.
@@markplott4820 For some reason I remember this. Maybe my name has something to do with it ;-)
@@timepstein274 Are you "Elmo"?
Kind of her own fault though. She had her hands off the handlebars because she was flashing someone.
Cool! The more EVs the better 👍 This form factor makes sense in a lot of use cases. Best of luck Nimbus!
Not sure I agree with that... This car on the road would be a death trap against other cars. The only way to make it safe for the road would be to create an alternate road system made exclusively for these.
@@Les_S537 I guess you don't use bicycles...
@@daniele_go not sure whether I use bicycles or not has any relevance to what I said…. Expound
@@Les_S537 remember the sagway? Sigh..
@@wongman2001 You mean the Segway, and yes I remember it... why?
I test drove an Arcimoto a few months ago and didn't get along well with the motorcycle controls. I would be much more interested in something like this with a steering wheel. Best wishes getting to production!
I have been waiting for a vehicle like this for decades!
Same! I was just looking at Carver EV videos and someone recommended the Nimbus. Put a deposit down on a One S immediately.
Really neat vehicle. I can visualize this being a perfect fit for my wife and I. We use the freeway about once a week but for only 5 miles. There are many side street routes that we would use instead and it wouldn't lengthen the path. Good job!! Looking forward to more on this vehicle.
Thanks Doug!
I appreciate the opportunity to see this new vehicle and the perspective Monroe can give. I would have preferred more technical questions to be asked rather than have Carl's perspective given. Example Carl provided his perspective on potential markets when the creator is standing there who likely has done the market research. I think we want Monroe's perspective most of the time because you typically do not have the company rep with you. Thanks for all you do, just trying to give some feedback on the video!
Yeah Carl was just rambling on, covering far less interesting topics FIRST instead of going through the meat and potatoes of the vehicle, including specs, L2 charging, talking about the One S, etc. Lots of wasted time and Carl didn't seem to take it seriously. This was the opposite of the in-depth review I expected from Munro.
The Nimbus seems awfully similar to the Arcimoto FUV. Wheelbase looks narrow for stability, but lean function is interesting. best of luck Nimbus!
Arcimoto doesn't tilt, and they have no plans to make the FUV (v1 or 2) tilt. Eventually they'll get doors, but it's still a very wide vehicle.
This vehicle has a hard door & looks better than the FUV Archimoto which can't seem to get their design right for the last 2-3 years.
Its cheaper than Archimoto, which cost 25k.
The form factor is more like the Renault Twizy ( th-cam.com/video/mIECtqau78g/w-d-xo.html ) we've had in Europe for the last 5 years. Of course Twizy is a 4 wheel and the Nimbus has far better specs than the Twizy. Hoping to see it in Europe soon!
@ We are actually more than 30% narrower than the Twizy. The streamlined profile allows us to fit into smaller parking spots and cut through heavy traffic or lane split (where it's legal)
This is very cool! We need more efficient vehicles like this.
I love this thing. 90 miles is really good especially considering that you could just buy extra batteries and carry them onboard it you really wanted to (I don't see much of a use-case for this, but still).
I could use this as a work car and around town.
@@SirDiesAlot89I think he's saying he doesn't see much use for carrying extra batteries around.
Sandy Munro and Team are fantastic! Really appreciate your videos and all you do for the consumers of vehicles. Especially love the Tesla breakdowns. Thank you all so very much for your wonderful insights and analysis. I am sure that my family is better off because of the great work you all do.
Great vehicle ! As somebody that was using motorcycle for commuting this would be a perfect vehicle for most of my needs. If it's drivable in winter that's even better!
I thought he said $110,000 and had to rewatch it. Under $10,000, phew!
Thought the same lol
I think we are conditioned to expect stupid high pricing on EVs at this point
14k$*
16:10 Working with Sandy on the Tesla tear-downs, Carl should be aware that Tesla and many other EV batteries last up to 500.000 miles until they show noticeable range degradation. Even with a "only" 8 years or 150.000 miles warranty that's a good 12 years of ownership. His worry reflects common BEV worries that are often brought up in uneducated mainstream media but have no bearing on actual use-case properties.
You may get lots of "range" from an aging battery but the performance of that battery diminishes much quicker. The Tesla with 100k miles wont be quicker than a new one. In a gas car it's usually the opposite as engine tolerances expand.
@@aussie2uGA ICE is faster after break-in, but there is about no chance that you will have a faster engine at 100k miles. More oil use, sure... 🤣
@B.L. Alley Grow up. They are conveying their client sentiments or consumer research. It doesn't actually matter if the batteries fail, it is marketable to the masses that the batteries are replaceable. Right to repair is a huge issue right now. Only a fool wouldn't market swappable batteries if they get it automatically to enable charging the battery inside while leaving the vehicle outside. This swap feature will enable rental services that could rent out 10s of thousands of these on a college campus and people don't need chargers where they park if they can bring batteries inside to charge. Imagine as a student only paying 80-100 a month for a vehicle you can use all around town and to commute to class?
Carl clearly stated that he drives 40,000 miles / year.
@@_PatrickO What constitutes a battery charge cycle? If it requires down to 20%, up to80% there is a problem. If you're at 30% and need 30% to make you're trip, you have no choice but to charge...and may actually use two cycles...30% to 60%; 60% to 20%; 20 % to 80%. If you have exchangeable battery modules, you can get complete cycles out of every battery module. It's kind of like an airplane with wing tanks...but different. With batteries you want to completely discharge a pack before recharging...and that means having a pack to switch to (e.g. the other wing tank).
Well done! I love it. Sometimes I need lumber or I go camping, but this little guy could do everything else. For 10,000$ it's reasonable to buy or rent one as a primary daily driver for someone like me who doesn't live downtown but I'm still on the street grid. Looks like fun too.
Great video. Keep introducing the general population to different EVs so we can anticipate and evaluate the evolution of the EV space.
... I like that Mr. Nong doesn't say much -- that's my kind of sales guy.
I would love something like this. This is all most people need as a second car to get to work
Does it have a charging port? Or do you have to remove the batteries to charge? Connector type? What is the charging rate? What was the battery capacity? What was the battery chemistry?
So much not covered. I'd love to see Sandy review this himself with the founder present.
Thanks Carl for another interesting and informative EV video.
I like this concept better than the Arcimoto for one reason. it is an autocycle. By using a steering wheel and pedals it allows the driver to use it without a motorcycle license and without having to learn new skills. if it was slightly roomier it would be nicer. having a cargo set-up in the back to allow 2 passengers plus some gear is a bonus.
If you can push a shopping cart or ride a bicycle you can handle an Arcimoto FUV, no new skills required.
This Nimbus looks sleeker but goes slower and less far than a FUV and it doesn't have nearly the same platform capabilities or room as a FUV. I suspect the upcoming tilting tech will also reduce their wheelbase i.e. width. This looks like a scooter replacement, the FUV is a vehicle that can replace a car. Plus I'm pretty sure this is Asia made whereas Arcimoto designs and builds their vehicles entirely in the US.
I don't like it because of those reasons. FUV is cool
Arcimoto is an autocycle too. Most state are changing laws so autocycles have the same requirements as a car, not a motorcycle.
Arcimoto can be bought with half doors now with heated seats and handle grips.
They are also working on full doors and AC/heat.
Also they will soon have torque vectoring software for better steering and control.
Pasted all crash tests.
Just as easy to operate as the Nimbus and roomier for both passengers.
I could go on.....
Arcimoto would be better if it was gas powered
$110,000 reason I don't like this one, That's in Model X territory
Hey guy UK here this bike is like the Toyota IRoad
Just what I've been waiting for. I paid my $100. Can't wait. Thanks for the review
Its like a 3 wheeled Twizzy. Great concept, it will have its place in transportation. At this price cheaper than many motorcycles. Of all those micro vehicle concept I like the Aptera best.
The Aptera is great but very pricey and doesn't lean. I too love that vehicle though. I've always wanted a leaning vehicle like the Carver One/EV but finally we have something coming, and it looks amazing.
Yeah, it looks like a really, REALLY bad copy of a Renault Twizy.
Kudos to Carl for the calm and serious approach he has in all his videos. Keep it up!
Like the Renault twizy!
It’s a blatant copy of the Toyota Iroad lol…… 😂 😆
The would be great for a large university campus staff transportation. We use lots of diesel carts. These would be nice and squeeze in tighter spots and easier parking.
I love the door design. Many city dwellers could really rely on this for most transportation needs.
Absolutely love this vehicle at this price point. So many potential uses. Kudos to all those involved. ❤️
Thank you! ❤
City driving for that price… awesome ride!
Even for a second car in the suburbs.
A big obstacle will be getting past peoples snootyness
At first I thought he said "$110,000." But he actually said "under $10,000"
@@RAFchurchlawford4469 LOL!!! that is what I thought also - had to replay the video. take care.
Looking forward to Alex coming back, she was impressive and a breath of fresh air!
This might be a hit in those retirement communities where golf carts are everywhere.
Mark from Arcimoto said they specifically selected handlebars because these enable a more upright and close seating position, which enabled a back seat or storage area in a short body
Archimoto has a hump between your leg, making it a little difficult to get in and out. I like the Nimbus approach having a flat floor, plus more likely have lower center of gravity.
This is an interesting vehicle. Keep us updated on the progress of the company.
It looks like a three-wheeled version of the Renault Twizy, that has been in production since 2012.
Noticed that myself 🤔
10 years ago 😂 and the Twizy looks alot better
Twizy didn’t have doors.
@@oliverbruce8384 Check again. Twizy had optional doors. I’m not sure about windows though. Search for “Twizy portes”.
@@oliverbruce8384 And Renault still sells the Twizy starting at 11,600€.
Cant wait to see the Nimbus 2000 model🙂.
Came here for this. Take your "thumbs up"!
Perfect little work commuter! I drive 40 km each work day to the outskirts of my city where no public transit exists. Currently drive a newer gas cuv. I park on the street so I can't recharge it with a cord so portable batteries are great.
I see these and my first question is always "Does it have A/C?". Replaceable batteries are a big plus to me.
Heating standard, A/C optional according to their website
@@jsponson Nice to know there is an option for A/C. thanks for info.
The batteries out idea is fabulous.
This would tie in beautifully with the Gogoro battery swap system.
They look to be very similar in size and functionality.
Don't reinvent that particular wheel guys. Kerbside banks of chargers already in use. You never own the batteries so they're always up to spec., so don't sweat it Carl.
The kerbside banks charge when cheap and also can be used for stabilisation of local grid.
They're on YT and were also mentioned by YT channel The Electric Viking.
Some of us are well entrenched in the world of EVs and just want to charge the batteries in-situ. I've heard that the Nimbus One S batteries will stay in the vehicle. I'd want to charge using my Tesla Wall Charger and a J1772 adapter. Zero review videos have talked about what the charge port looks like. I wish someone would cover it. If it's a Tesla port, even better!
I agree that removable batteries are good for apartment dwellers, assuming they can lug those around. Some people will probably struggle.
Good report, thanks. However, until you add mini “dead cats“ (wind muffs to your microphones like Rhode and DJI have on their integrated Bluetooth modules) the next best practice is to clip the body microphone so the capsule is under your shirt so it acts as a windscreen.
I love this vehicle, I think that practicality, ease of driving and fun are definitely there!
It looks very similar to Toyota I-Road who was tested for years and unfortunately never made it to production.
I would have liked more technical questions like: size of battery (kWh) and weight, top speed, braking efficiency, acceleration...
In particular I would like to understand the behaviour when braking in a turn.
Would it automatically bring it back to vertical when slowing down?
While driving you said that leaning was directly related to steering: in reality it should be related to steering AND speed.
And very similar to the Renault Twizy whom I drive since 2012. But much improved in a very good way in some areas. Still keeping the big handicaps like the uncovered wheels. No side crash protection. Why not a top cover including doors that open when lifting up? Re cargo why not open/fill it from the outside back?
Hi Daniele, please check out our website for more specs: nimbusev.com. There is very little transfer between braking/acceleration and turning except at the limits of traction, like all vehicles.
@@nimbusev3942 Hi Nimbus, can you tell me which kind of charge port the Nimbus One S has? J1772? Tesla? I need to be able to charge with my Tesla Wall Connector (and adapter, if needed). Thank you! I agree that a more in-depth tech review would be great. I would also like to see the vehicle with doors on to see how they operate, but the low-profile opening looks truly innovative!
I do think the cargo consideration needs work, but would love to see a cargo config with no rear seat. Even better would be a cargo area accessible from the rear like the SOLO, because going around the driver's seat might be a little awkward for groceries.
The leaning is fantastic. We need to be able to remove the front cargo net on the dash as well as that humongous windshield wiper, even if it's required. In SoCal I won't need it 99% of the time. Thanks!
Great presentation of a niche vehicle. You need to do more of these videos because of viewer interest.
Thank you for sharing, looks good. Lights and interior accessories like entertainment and navigation complete with heating and cooling are not luxury items as you know a Kia or a small Hyundai has that nailed to perfection. But you already know that
I have been thinking about something like this for a year. I pulled the trigger on this one. Perfect fit between my Tesla and my ebike. I spend a lot of time in the Thumb around Caseville and this is a perfect match for the roads, speeds, and distances up there.
Thanks for plugging Kettering. Alumni here.
Another option for security/plant management and tourism😎
Way to wide to safely split lanes…..at least here in SoCal.
They have been delivering food in Japan and Korea in similar vehicles for years.
And loads cheaper
Europe too
The Toyota Iroad you mean!!
Y’all keep knocking it out of the park lately.👏🏻
Wow, this is much cheaper then an Arcomoto. This is truly all people need to commute or run quick errands at a great price point. I’m Rooting for them. I would love to buy one of these for my 18miles round trip to work and back. Good luck!
17:48 why is it blinking at us? Are there liquid crystal films on the lamps?
Looked a bit Scary, I am glad that your survived this experience and I hope your grandmas neck gets better soon :)
I would consider a light off road version. Similar to a lifted golf cart. I need something for my construction site. Need some lockable space for tool storage as well.
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Most people in urban areas live in condos and they need parking spots with chargers but that's very problematic from a cost perspective for almost all countries. That's why it wouldn't be all that bad if cars and smaller vehicles could harvest 3-10 km/day of solar energy. Maybe consider an option with a solar roof.
Also a small cart on wheels for the removable batteries as an accessory could be a viable product, And a generator/UPS built around that battery bricks.
Take this prototype to a few cities in Europe, then Vietnam, Cambodia, Tokio, South Africa, New Zealand and get some footage and some feedback.
Very confused by Carl's math at the end.
40k miles a year for 6 years is 240k miles. That's really heavy use. An ICE vehicle would need a whole lot of components replaced in that time. EVs have very good battery life (90% after 200k miles). I'd think, if he did the math, Carl would be much better off with an EV than with an ICE. You'd save so much on maintenance at that high run rate.
Depends on the vehicle. I've seen many Toyota corolla and Camry and Prius go well past that point with no major mechanical parts failing.
My own 14 year old Prius has had 208,000 miles put on it in the last 4 years. It has 409,000 on it total.
Total cost for me over the last 209K.. including fuel, and maint and tires is about $20,000 at current gas prices. I do all my own oil fluid changes, and repairs. That does save me a lot.
Those numbers would be radically different on a Camry.
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Munro enabled Arcimoto to get big $$ for their "hope you like the weather today" toy (I asked them if the founder's mother could get over the huge hump to get in it... still waiting). Nimbus is clearly at the "dialing for dollars" $$ stage and this exposure may help them. Much nicer design than the Arcimoto, but has a long way to go to be saleable and producible. To sell it for 10 grand, they will need a $ billion in capitol. Good Luck.
What's with the Blinking Eyes near the windshield?
Check out the Renault twizzy
Similar concept. Already available for years
Nope!!! It’s a blatant copy of the Toyota Iroad lol…… 😂 😆
We're 30% narrower than the Twizy with swappable batteries and windows. The streamlined profile makes all the difference when in heavy traffic or when trying to find parking
This inventor is a genius ... The world needs this !!!!!!!!!
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The tilting Carver from the Netherlands has always been one of my favorite wish-list vehicles! However, their newer version, while now all-electric, is slower and has limited range. I suspect that the 94 mile range quoted by Nimbus is at 35 mph, much like the 100 mile range of the Arcimoto is for 35 mph- but at highway speeds, the Arcimoto range drops to about 35 miles. I suspect that the highway range of the Nimbus drops to about 30-35 miles as well. This makes it affordable- but it is very much limited to a neighborhood or downdown.
Hi Paul, we designed the Nimbus One to be perfect for local trips - which is actually the majority of trips cars are actually used for.
@@nimbusev3942 this was not to discourage your pursuit, or denigrate you product- just pointing out the limitations. But the market for a short-range, slow neighborhood vehicle is not going to play in the US- at least, not as more than a niche vehicle- it has been tried before. US Drivers want one car to do all those short, urban trips, as well as the longer weekend and vacation trips. Perhaps this will change in the future- but, as they say, tomorrow is promised to no man ;-) But best of luck!
@@paulcummings55No problem at all. We love hearing about people's perspectives. We believe the key to making a vehicle for local trips work is that it needs to be small enough and the price to utility (or fun) ratio high enough. A good example is the e-bike, which have been outselling electric cars in the US in the past 2 years.
Even 35 mph is too slow for surface streets where I live, but for short trips at 'normal' speeds I think this would suffice. I just need a ROBUST charging solution for the Nimbus One S I ordered, and that's using my Tesla Wall Charger with adapter (if needed). If the Nimbus has Tesla ports, even better (though not likely).
The vehicle brings memories back from driving the Toyota iRoad. Same concept, only with the rear wheel steering instead of the front wheels. I drove it in Grenoble (France) during the time that this mobility concept was tested there. It didn’t disappoint me. I still wonder why Toyota seems to have stopped the development of such a vehicle.
Renault had something similar to buy
Toyota had great concepts but most their cars are boring workhorses. When it comes to anything EV they are just crap.
Renault still sells the Twizy in Europe. It is fun to drive.
@@victorraue6405 Yes, I have been inside one. They should bring our a Twizzy Max with 2 proper seats 120km/h top speed and better range.
Lol that 7:39 grandma story came out of nowhere and took me by surprise.
I like this little vehicle very much, and would choose it over any of the NEV's available in the US. But unlike an NEV, it's far more useful with a top speed of 50 mph. Perfect for errands in the neighborhood, but with the ability to additionally take on the numerous roads in my area with a 45 mph speed limit. Best of luck to Nimbus, and I hope you can bring this to market soon.
We appreciate your support! Our current best estimate for delivering the first vehicles to customers will be sometime in 2024.
Does it have AC for Texas Gulf Coast summers? The ice cream in the groceries will melt before I get home otherwise. I notice a lot of wind noise with the doors off too. It should be a little wider too because I think my shoulders would be rubbing both doors. How about a roof rack too?
While our anatomy might be different to some degree, I would like to voice my opposition to your point. I drive about 40 or so miles to work and I would absolutely love the version that goes to 75 mph. The fact that it operates as a motorcycle class makes it more cost-efficient on insurance, it is electric, which pushes the eco-friendly and sustainable transportation industry, it has a roll cage to increase safety compared to a moped or motorcycle. It seems perfect for me. As owning a car is more expensive, it sells for cheaper than used electric cars with much older technology and batteries, and it can go a decent distance. I absolutely see this as more than a transportation unit within a small community. I also live in a small town and getting to the next city over is my need due to my city not having a college campus, so our circumstances are also different. But for a single guy who just needs to travel about 40-70 miles, this is perfect.
One of the use cases I didn't hear was that of the performance buyer. Granted, the Nimbus One is designed for urban commuting and affordable transportation, but the company previously suggested a performance variant called the Nimbus X. I think there's an enormous opportunity to fulfill a recreational promise. A weather-protected, tilting autocycle with exciting performance bonafides could seriously tap into the recreational motorcycle category. I suspect that option still exists in future development and I hope Nimbus receives the funding and market acceptance to pursue such a vehicle.
I didn't see some of the most important questions like; what is the battery chemistry? only seen 2 removable batteries does each one delivery 45 miles of range? They are small what is there weight and voltage? Removable battery would be a first for a small EV, solving the issue of no power outlets near by. Manufacturing in volume will be a real factor for Monroe to address. Hope it all works out, we seen what happened to other startups!
I am part of the “senior” demographic and would use this for errands around town, since I don’t need a big vehicle for toting anything big except me.
So the one feature I like are the removable batteries, so anyone can replace them when they’ve lost their charge capacity.
The only thing I’d like to see done is to stretch it a foot so rear passenger isn’t sitting in a cave.
And a storage compartment in the back (a trunk?) so the rear passenger won’t be crowded out..
Not a bad idea, I am considering buying one when it goes in to production.
Carl, used golf carts can be $2k-3k. And last an owner years. For a retired couple or even on a campus, a 2-seater makes sense. Single seater for a city "walker" who wants to go farther and avoid the subway - might work, but a subway moving 500 people uptown off the streets rather than the same group heading uptown in 500 individual units needing to be charged is a step backward.
This would definitely be awesome for the markets you two described. I think the passenger seat/exterior back side of vehicle needs some refinement in its design for better utility.
It looks about as wide as a motorcycle handlebar. I wonder if it can use an EV charger or is it just 110v plug and how long to charge? The rear seat looks very small, I would want a bit more for shopping. How about a frunk?
3:45 I had to rewind that back when I thought he said "One Hundred and Ten Thousand Dollars" :)
This is a great concept. And as a big guy, I can see that I might fit. I like the price point! $10g US = about $50g CAN, within 2 yrs. Not bad at all.
This is pretty cool, would definitely use this for errands and daily commuting. Super excited about the removable batteries for charging and ease of replacement down the road as they age.
Have you checked out the Arcimoto FUV? It's pretty kick-ass and Munro is helping them develop it as well!
Edit: On a sidenote, you shouldn't need to replace EV batteries ever. They should easily last for the vehicles lifetime.
What if a truck or semi hit you. Looks like a coffin on wheels
@@Lobonova it's less safe than a car, but a lot safer than a motorcycle. The idea is that we'd replace most of our ridiculously large vehicles when traveling with 1 or 2 people, with lots of these so the safety becomes less of an issue and we save tons of energy and resources, and need a lot less tarmac and parking spaces to allow people to get around.
Love this 3 wheel tadpole configuration prototype! I want one! So do the majority of urbanites and the developing world!
Around 20 years ago, Prodrive (Banbury UK) had a tandem seat lean steer called the Naro. The industry was largely disinterested though Peugeot and Toyota had their ideas for the same setup.
Narrow cars turn extremely well when they lean and passengers feel no cornering forces. The hard part them was finding computers that could make the switch from low speed normal steering to high speed counter-steering. Bikers could do it fine without but average car drivers could not. Fit a steering wheel and nobody could drive it. Considerable computer power is needed. Even worse, you still have to fit a mechanical steering shaft. Not good when the wheels are doing the opposite of when the steering wheel is asking for.
There's no counter-steering happening from what I can see, certainly not from the driver. Maybe the founder can weigh in. I'm a motorcycle rider and EV fanatic.
Carl... walk-up song for you... 'C. C. Ryder', Mitch Ryder and The Detroit Wheels circa 1966... Sandy will know this one for sure! SoCalFreddy
Back in 1986, There was, in Vancouver, British Columbia, the Show: Expo '86! GM had a Pavilion there, and demonstrated (Live In a Video, and Maybe a Static Demo, I forget!) their Concept Vehicle, called "The Lean Machine" - a Small Scooter, with Full Teardrop Enclosed Body, over a Dual Back Wheel Drive Unit, that Leaned according to a set of Pedals, If I recall Correctly, and although the Drive Power was a small ICE unit, it still was Pitching 200 MPG! Better than the Typical BEV's eMPG Values of 80-140 or so "eMPG!" (equivalent MPG)
The Lean Machine was Slicker in Style that this, but, oh well, it still should be interesting!
I could use this. This could replace my car for most trips. A little more storage behind the vehicle would be ideal. I think a good rack could fit a medium suitcase behind the vehicle. I really like the battery swap option and think that buying double the battery at purchase would help more people live with such a vehicle.
It was good to see at least parts of the campus again. How is Flint doing these days? I was waiting to hear tires screeching in the background, gunfire, or at least people approaching you with guns drawn and take the Nimbus away, where it would join the stripped down frames of former vehicles along the sides of the road a few blocks away. Things must have improved since the last time I was out there for you to make this shoot and none of that happened. I mean you even stayed outside for that long and you are still alive. Things must have improved out there. Did they ever fix the leg on the bulldog?
What is it about the flashing SOS in the corners of the windshield?
Dot dot dot dash is ‘V’.
This looks so cool!
Reminds me of the British built Sinclair C5 from the mid 80’s. Come on a long way mind!
Suggest: drive into skinny parking spot straight in (+/- 5d)). Somebody parks straight in next to you. No problem. You can slowly back out 5ft using the key fob, hop in and you are done. Fob remote can also be used to park in a tight space. Dedicated Nimbus parking spots coud be more park more densely. Also there could be better utilization of preciously “lost” space at the end of rows.
When do you expect to be selling these in the UK? It's my dream transport solution.
The perfect daily commuting vehicle... with decent range. The price is balance by the TCO. Electricity maybe cost less than $1 a day. Should be aim at the Asian market. A billion people that travel everywhere on two-wheelers. Tap into that.
@3m50s NEXT!.....Dreams over!
Does it have HVAC? How many batteries can it hold 2, 4?
I hope this innovative vehicle makes it to production !
Oh, Arcimoto competitor. Love the doors! I don't recall if anyone mentioned the vehicle's maximum velocity.
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He mentions it at 7:26 . 50 mph but also a version that will touch above 70
@@okcleaners The Nimbus One S is rated at 75mph top speed per the Nimbus website. Correct on the Nimbus One at 50 mph.
Really looking forward to seeing these in the UK. It takes the 3-wheel tilting trike up a few levels from what the Carver offers. Quality is better and having the removable batteries is great. Hope it has quick charging DC or AC - type 2 adapter for Europe.
I'll buy one in 7-10K range right now! (wow! I wrote my comment prior to the founder announcing expected price point. Great!)
Okay now after watching the entire video I like it even more. I would buy one.
What differentiates this from the products coming from Arcimoto?
Question: does it have doors? Cause I'm watching videos on it and they don't have doors in the video.
You mentioned a faster version. Would it be highway capable? If it was I would consider buying one.
Nimbus One S is the faster and more expensive version. It's under 14k and has a 75mph top speed, and probably has a good bit more range. I just put a deposit down on one today.
Rear view mirrors/camera essential. Opening windows in the doors, again essential. I live in Europe and would buy one because many towns have medieval streets. + many countries have non-poluting incentives.
It's odd the regen isn't activated at this stage yet. Four iterationa and no regen. Should it be so hard?
Plus do more in depth vid on fuv and your work with fuv. 👊