All your mistakes can be forgiven since this was your 2nd only flight. But I doubt the wind was anything over 20km/h. The glider stood on launch facing into the wind with the keel on the ground. At 30km/h it would take off and not just sit there. This seems like your instructors fault. I don't think you were ready for a high glide because you looked like a passenger and not in charge. This is not a criticism directed at you but rather at your instructor who failed 1. to judge your skill level properly and 2. I didn't hear any radio instructions. With a little more experience you could have fixed this many times. This wasn't a flat spin but you were just letting the glider turn with the breeze. You could have fixed it by pulling in on the bar to increase your wind speed and bumping the glider into straight flight or counter the right hand turn. I didn't hear any instructions form your instructor who should have been supervising you on your second high glide. Also the glider was 'mushing' (flying too slow and on the point of stall) from the get go. Your instructor should have been telling you to pull on more speed. Even before you launched I was cringing. You don't turn a glider from the tail. If it is windy you can drop one wingtip and spin the glider forward on either the right or the left wheel or bar end if you don't have wheels. Assistance is given on the front wires since the glider can be held down and controlled from the front wires but not from the tail. This is a beautiful sport and very safe once properly trained. Maybe look for another instructor ;-)
Hi Nadav. I've had had near misses starting when I was learning in the early 80's up through as recently as a few years ago. So you are in good company. It seems you were dealing with some choppy turbulence rolling your glider back and forth. Right at about 1:06 you input a right correction for a left turn. The glider responds, possibly even over responds a bit. But two big additional roll inputs follow. This creates the spiral turn. I'm guessing this is the steepest bank you have experience so far. It comes with high G's and high velocity. The best way to exit a spiral is to pull in the bar and roll out of it as you come around towards a safe heading. I think you may have actually pushed out at some point around 1:20 as a result of seeing the ground get close. This probably seems natural but it increases the bank angle, tightens the turn radius and increases the G's. Pulling in to exit steep banks is not often taught. Instructors try to steer students from getting into high banked attitudes in the first place which is right. They are probably also trying not to encourage you to slip your glider which can result in very high speeds and dramatic altitude loss. The thing to learn is when to do it. If a glider is moving fast and loaded up with high g's in a spiral it is aerodynamically very stable and pulling in won't result in slip and will allow you to easily exit the spiral. But if you do this when flying straight and level near trim speed, you will slip and I hope you have plenty of ground clearance. The slip will become more pronounced with more advanced wings. This might be a good thing to discuss with your instructor and possibly even practice with more gentle spirals when you have 1000 feet of air below you. But the best thing at this point in your flying would be to learn to keep the glider from ever getting banked up that high. Glad you are okay.
360s are not a good idea for losing height for a new pilot or for anyone on approach to landing. Save 360s for when you are thousands of feet up and needing to lose height. Do S turns instead, always keeping your landing spot in sight. This way you can always turn in to your final at any point. Another thing to remember, in a floater you need to pull in momentarily immediately before you turn. The glider will respond quickly and easily in the turn. Ive seen many novice pilot trying to force the glider around, mushing the glider while losing way too much height. On your next flight, when you have some height compare turning without pulling in a little bit immediately before the turn vs turning with no pull-in. You will be amazed at the difference. This is why you fell out of the sky in "a spiral". Remember the glider will turn nicely if you give it some airspeed. You should not be fighting it! Don't do 360's. Talk to your instructor about a properly planned approach. If you are so high that you need 360s use the height to take your time getting to the right height at the right time slooowly ... And enjoy it!
Bro, I'm really sorry about your crash but that was the most fun video I've ever seen on TH-cam. Needless to say, i was unaware the 360 view technology could be used like this! I look forward to more!
I agree with the comments that assay your instructor should not be launching you in strong winds. Your first flights should be straight, calm with a huge landing area and no obstacles. It your stage your whole flight should be planned out from take off to landing, and easy. You were very lucky to survive this.
Excuse me....but if this was your second flight and the condition was as you described, the fool is your instructor! Because letting a student to soar near the ridge with active air is totally crazy!!! First flights must be in easy and smooth conditions, you must be "radio controlled" like an RC model by your instructor that constantly see you and you have nothing else to do then flying like on the training hill but for a longer time, so to have the possibility to try turns and approaches for longer periods and wider spaces. Another possibility is that you left too soon the training hill.... but is always your instructor responsabity. Anyway.... the insta360 deformation doesn't help, but it seems to me that you are not in a good position inside your harness and you are a bit too far from the base bar (consequently you can have a lack of control). P.s. you are really lucky to be alive and with no broken back
The instructor who is with you is very good, I know him, and he would never put a student in danger. You are not in a course with him, that is obvious because you do not even have a radio with him. I think you lied to him about your level and that you simply had no idea what you were doing. You are very lucky to be alive. But the important thing is to learn with humility from an experience like this and not look for blame outside your head.
You allowed yourself to turn downwind by failing to get on the left side of the bar. Flying in stronger winds requires aggressive counter controlling. The spiral wasn't wind induced, you just didn't commit to correcting it.
My Exxtacy is in storage with a broken wing, due to one final 360 to lose altitude prior to landing. I drifted too far downwind to make the LZ. Flared in the crest of a large tree. Glider got damaged getting it down from the tree.
After reading several comments that had some rightful things to pointed out, I would agree with less then ideal conditions, poor supervision and of course lack of control and speed. One big takeaway I see is your lack of proper body posture being to high up in your upper shoulder height leaving you to bear down on the base bar preventing less control authority. Your shoulder cord shows that. When you put a lot of bear down weight on a base bar we divide some of our weight to the forward CG to the base bar and your not allowing your harness to act as a free floating pendulum. Practice static hanging in your harness from a tree branch with fixed base bar before you and learn to maneuver off the bar leading with your aft body and relax.
Hello. I am glad that you are ok. Others gave good advices in the comment section so i will not repeat.. This kind of titles ( hanggliding crash, almost killed by hg, hg fail) are just anti-propaganda and we can loose new pilots or people interested in sport. Crashes can be much more serious and with all respect, this doesnt look near fatal But those titles are magnets for clicking and have many views Best regards.
Glad you are ok. Were you looking for lift 10 m off the ground? you should NEVER be downwind when that close to obstacles. at that altitude, you should just head into the wind and land. but when you are higher you want to do a figure 8, never having the wind at your back .
Clearly a newer pilot. Tentative in getting into the harness and in his control inputs. Many of us have had that oh shit moment and lived to learn from it thank goodness. Not sure if the pilot was under 'radio control' but if he was he should have been instructed to keep a much larger margin for error.
Holly cow. The 360 view didn't make it easy to see what happened but that bank angle was sharp and you were pushed out way too much. Stalled the glider bad. I have a Malibu 2 as well. It's such a good wing though I fly my S3 a lot more now.
Should be clear enough...you need a lot more instruction. Hope you weren't injured. So many basic hang gliding skills were not there to drawn from. Didn't see a hang check either. You were riding the glider.
I totally agree. My skill level was very poor, and did not fit the task I was attempting to achieve. Fortunately I did not suffer any injuries at all. I re-did the course w/ a different instructor a few months later, and learnt exactly how far off my skill level was at the time
All your mistakes can be forgiven since this was your 2nd only flight. But I doubt the wind was anything over 20km/h. The glider stood on launch facing into the wind with the keel on the ground. At 30km/h it would take off and not just sit there. This seems like your instructors fault. I don't think you were ready for a high glide because you looked like a passenger and not in charge. This is not a criticism directed at you but rather at your instructor who failed 1. to judge your skill level properly and 2. I didn't hear any radio instructions. With a little more experience you could have fixed this many times. This wasn't a flat spin but you were just letting the glider turn with the breeze. You could have fixed it by pulling in on the bar to increase your wind speed and bumping the glider into straight flight or counter the right hand turn. I didn't hear any instructions form your instructor who should have been supervising you on your second high glide. Also the glider was 'mushing' (flying too slow and on the point of stall) from the get go. Your instructor should have been telling you to pull on more speed.
Even before you launched I was cringing. You don't turn a glider from the tail. If it is windy you can drop one wingtip and spin the glider forward on either the right or the left wheel or bar end if you don't have wheels. Assistance is given on the front wires since the glider can be held down and controlled from the front wires but not from the tail.
This is a beautiful sport and very safe once properly trained. Maybe look for another instructor ;-)
Hi Nadav. I've had had near misses starting when I was learning in the early 80's up through as recently as a few years ago. So you are in good company. It seems you were dealing with some choppy turbulence rolling your glider back and forth. Right at about 1:06 you input a right correction for a left turn. The glider responds, possibly even over responds a bit. But two big additional roll inputs follow. This creates the spiral turn. I'm guessing this is the steepest bank you have experience so far. It comes with high G's and high velocity. The best way to exit a spiral is to pull in the bar and roll out of it as you come around towards a safe heading. I think you may have actually pushed out at some point around 1:20 as a result of seeing the ground get close. This probably seems natural but it increases the bank angle, tightens the turn radius and increases the G's.
Pulling in to exit steep banks is not often taught. Instructors try to steer students from getting into high banked attitudes in the first place which is right. They are probably also trying not to encourage you to slip your glider which can result in very high speeds and dramatic altitude loss. The thing to learn is when to do it. If a glider is moving fast and loaded up with high g's in a spiral it is aerodynamically very stable and pulling in won't result in slip and will allow you to easily exit the spiral. But if you do this when flying straight and level near trim speed, you will slip and I hope you have plenty of ground clearance. The slip will become more pronounced with more advanced wings. This might be a good thing to discuss with your instructor and possibly even practice with more gentle spirals when you have 1000 feet of air below you. But the best thing at this point in your flying would be to learn to keep the glider from ever getting banked up that high.
Glad you are okay.
360s are not a good idea for losing height for a new pilot or for anyone on approach to landing. Save 360s for when you are thousands of feet up and needing to lose height. Do S turns instead, always keeping your landing spot in sight. This way you can always turn in to your final at any point.
Another thing to remember, in a floater you need to pull in momentarily immediately before you turn. The glider will respond quickly and easily in the turn. Ive seen many novice pilot trying to force the glider around, mushing the glider while losing way too much height. On your next flight, when you have some height compare turning without pulling in a little bit immediately before the turn vs turning with no pull-in. You will be amazed at the difference. This is why you fell out of the sky in "a spiral". Remember the glider will turn nicely if you give it some airspeed. You should not be fighting it! Don't do 360's. Talk to your instructor about a properly planned approach. If you are so high that you need 360s use the height to take your time getting to the right height at the right time slooowly ... And enjoy it!
Thank you for sharing, and most of all I'm glad you are ok. You survived to fly another day! :)
Pulling more speed and countering/correcting the spin might have worked, no?
Bro, I'm really sorry about your crash but that was the most fun video I've ever seen on TH-cam.
Needless to say, i was unaware the 360 view technology could be used like this! I look forward to more!
I agree with the comments that assay your instructor should not be launching you in strong winds. Your first flights should be straight, calm with a huge landing area and no obstacles. It your stage your whole flight should be planned out from take off to landing, and easy. You were very lucky to survive this.
Excuse me....but if this was your second flight and the condition was as you described, the fool is your instructor!
Because letting a student to soar near the ridge with active air is totally crazy!!!
First flights must be in easy and smooth conditions, you must be "radio controlled" like an RC model by your instructor that constantly see you and you have nothing else to do then flying like on the training hill but for a longer time, so to have the possibility to try turns and approaches for longer periods and wider spaces.
Another possibility is that you left too soon the training hill.... but is always your instructor responsabity.
Anyway.... the insta360 deformation doesn't help, but it seems to me that you are not in a good position inside your harness and you are a bit too far from the base bar (consequently you can have a lack of control).
P.s. you are really lucky to be alive and with no broken back
The instructor who is with you is very good, I know him, and he would never put a student in danger. You are not in a course with him, that is obvious because you do not even have a radio with him. I think you lied to him about your level and that you simply had no idea what you were doing. You are very lucky to be alive. But the important thing is to learn with humility from an experience like this and not look for blame outside your head.
You allowed yourself to turn downwind by failing to get on the left side of the bar. Flying in stronger winds requires aggressive counter controlling. The spiral wasn't wind induced, you just didn't commit to correcting it.
My Exxtacy is in storage with a broken wing, due to one final 360 to lose altitude prior to landing. I drifted too far downwind to make the LZ. Flared in the crest of a large tree. Glider got damaged getting it down from the tree.
After reading several comments that had some rightful things to pointed out, I would agree with less then ideal conditions, poor supervision and of course lack of control and speed. One big takeaway I see is your lack of proper body posture being to high up in your upper shoulder height leaving you to bear down on the base bar preventing less control authority. Your shoulder cord shows that. When you put a lot of bear down weight on a base bar we divide some of our weight to the forward CG to the base bar and your not allowing your harness to act as a free floating pendulum. Practice static hanging in your harness from a tree branch with fixed base bar before you and learn to maneuver off the bar leading with your aft body and relax.
You might upload a version of this that locks the viewpoint in the direction of flight. The 360 version is impossible to navigate in real-time.
Hello. I am glad that you are ok.
Others gave good advices in the comment section so i will not repeat..
This kind of titles ( hanggliding crash, almost killed by hg, hg fail) are just anti-propaganda and we can loose new pilots or people interested in sport.
Crashes can be much more serious and with all respect, this doesnt look near fatal
But those titles are magnets for clicking and have many views
Best regards.
Glad you are ok.
Were you looking for lift 10 m off the ground?
you should NEVER be downwind when that close to obstacles.
at that altitude, you should just head into the wind and land.
but when you are higher you want to do a figure 8, never having the wind at your back .
Eew, that jagged rocky landscape looks terrifying.
Clearly a newer pilot. Tentative in getting into the harness and in his control inputs. Many of us have had that oh shit moment and lived to learn from it thank goodness. Not sure if the pilot was under 'radio control' but if he was he should have been instructed to keep a much larger margin for error.
Best 360 footage ever. lol
Holly cow. The 360 view didn't make it easy to see what happened but that bank angle was sharp and you were pushed out way too much. Stalled the glider bad. I have a Malibu 2 as well. It's such a good wing though I fly my S3 a lot more now.
As soon as you are in the air your hands are too high for good leverage
Пилот слабо владеет техникой пилотирования.
Should be clear enough...you need a lot more instruction. Hope you weren't injured. So many basic hang gliding skills were not there to drawn from. Didn't see a hang check either. You were riding the glider.
I totally agree. My skill level was very poor, and did not fit the task I was attempting to achieve. Fortunately I did not suffer any injuries at all. I re-did the course w/ a different instructor a few months later, and learnt exactly how far off my skill level was at the time
Those 2 dudes that invented flight used a f..cking motor dude. Try it.
Faltan conceptos basicos !!!, vuelve a empezar y cambiar de instructor !!!!!!!!!
spot on - we were clueless, on our 2nd high-launch flight. we did replace instructor, and learned much much better.