I shouldn't have taken off.... Torrey Pines Hang Gliding (narrated)

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  • This is a flight that I honestly shouldn't have taken. I didn't have full control over the glider during ground handling. I did feel good at the moment I launched, but looking back on it, it was an unsafe decision. By the end of the day I was the only person in the air, that says a lot about the conditions.
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  • @someguydino6770
    @someguydino6770 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    "no amount of skill can compensate for just a small amount of bad judgement"
    My grand daddy told me this right before he died....sniff

    • @brentnevius2849
      @brentnevius2849 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      no amount of judgement can replace skill.

  • @riverbankfisher
    @riverbankfisher 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Wow, that was a super smooth touchdown, especially in those blustery conditions. It never occurred to me that strong winds would make a landing back at the glider port problematic, and this is the first time I've seen La Jolla State Beach used as a secondary landing option for hang gliders that launched over Blacks Beach.
    Seeing Blacks Beach at high tide in the winter brings back some fond memories of summer days spent down there inspecting the tan lines of UCSD coeds with an air of academic detachment.

    • @SoarswithSwords
      @SoarswithSwords  13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks! It was a good learning experience for me!

  • @feathermerchant
    @feathermerchant 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Ah, fond memories of flying my Eipper rogallo at Torrey Pines in 1974. Geez I'm getting old!

    • @SoarswithSwords
      @SoarswithSwords  20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Your generation helped our generation have far safer gliders, and had to pioneer a lot of stuff we still use, so thanks!

    • @FlatlandMountaineer-ru8ue
      @FlatlandMountaineer-ru8ue 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I haven’t heard Eipper in ages. They were #1 in So Cal when I started. Iendld up buying a kit from Free Flight Systems.

    • @feathermerchant
      @feathermerchant 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@FlatlandMountaineer-ru8ue The model I had was the 18' Flexi-Flier. It had the glide ratio of a smooth rock! When flying at Torrey Pines I got a lot of exercise carting that 40# on my shoulder back up to the top.

    • @ejcm55
      @ejcm55 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Me too. Taught by Floyd Fronius, son of Bob: president of the Ultralight Flyers Organization.

    • @michaelbowman6301
      @michaelbowman6301 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      😢​​@@FlatlandMountaineer-ru8ueI used to work for Eipper hang gliders in the late seventies before they moved, We used to go fly at point Fermin in San Pedro sometimes, I never did get a chance to fly Torrey pines but I flew a lot of crystalline and Symar in the San Fernando Valley. and back in those days there are other places you can fly but are no longer open to flying, Yeah those were the Good old days.

  • @user-tg8gd8pb7q
    @user-tg8gd8pb7q 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In the end you are the pilot in command. Never should have hooked up if you have any doubt. Your instructor knew you could handle it and you did great. Have more faith in your abilities my friend.

  • @penrynbigbird
    @penrynbigbird 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Pro tip. If you're in enough wind that you can basically elevator down you should immediately get the glider stabilized and then unhook (especially if you have two individuals right in front of you that can assist). Getting ground looped while still attached to a hang glider is NO FUN - high risk of damage to the glider and yourself.

    • @leifvejby8023
      @leifvejby8023 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I was about to say the same - saw a glider get killed when he got the kite's tail onto the ground, and he got flipped over.

    • @penrynbigbird
      @penrynbigbird 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@leifvejby8023 Where was that and what year??? Sorry you had to witness a fatality, that's something I was fortunate to never see in my 5 decades of flying hang gliders...

    • @leifvejby8023
      @leifvejby8023 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@penrynbigbird It was on a "practice hill" in Denmark, must have been 1982.

  • @rickwalicki7057
    @rickwalicki7057 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Nice flight buddy, good landing

  • @D-Garck
    @D-Garck 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice flying dude! Glad you had wire assistance at takeoff!

  • @freeflyer
    @freeflyer 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm surprised that some paragliders are airborne 😱

  • @cabanford
    @cabanford 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    If there's a paraglider flying, guessing one would be still on the green with a hang glider, no?

    • @cabanford
      @cabanford 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      38 mph! I want to see the paragliding pilot's video 😮

  • @Paul-ou1rx
    @Paul-ou1rx 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I used to love to go out there and watch you guys fly. Grab a burger at the snack shack and enjoy the day. Perhaps hike down to the beach. Cool seeing it from your point of view. Lived in OB for four years. (Have you ever thought of giving VR rides with a live camera feed and VR goggles to spectators?)

  • @ronaldglider
    @ronaldglider 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Great video - great learning for others!
    I love your honesty - yes, you should not have launched - yet you managed to everything right. I am sure you learnt a bundle!
    Happy landings!

    • @SoarswithSwords
      @SoarswithSwords  20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks! If I can share a learning experience and help someone else out, that’s a huge win to me!

  • @nicucrainic8106
    @nicucrainic8106 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Good job! Congratulation!

  • @alcampbell5831
    @alcampbell5831 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    You have admitted that you shouldn't have taken off, you didn't crash or injure yourself or bystanders, so call it a valuable learning experience.

  • @olsonspeed
    @olsonspeed 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    We have all had flights like this.

  • @TitusIV
    @TitusIV 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    It's impossible to know how winds will change, unless you ignored a wind increase forcast, at the time of take off the winds were good, 22-25 kmh are amazing soaring conditions, you had no way of knowing winds would increase. The importance is to stay alert of the changing winds and react accordingly which you did. Great experience of flying in strong winds :) !

    • @SoarswithSwords
      @SoarswithSwords  20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah the soaring was great, and I’ve soared at the Point of the Mountain at those speeds, the issue was a lack of control on launch.

    • @TitusIV
      @TitusIV 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@SoarswithSwords You're the expert on that matter :) !

  • @biggooseadventures
    @biggooseadventures 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cool video

  • @Paiadakine
    @Paiadakine 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Pretty nice video. La Jolla shores is where you landed.

  • @erikajklein
    @erikajklein 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    When you fly out toward the ocean it’s like you’re trying to fly the glider to the Philippines 😉

    • @SoarswithSwords
      @SoarswithSwords  18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      🤣 looking for those mid ocean thermals.

  • @stefanmargraf7878
    @stefanmargraf7878 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Depend on your helpers. Could be scary after landing (bug on the back). The girl should look at you and not at her phone. Once i did similar, but no one at the front, only at the wires left and right. As i was starting, the guy on the right didnt let go. So i went in a nice roundhouse bang into the bushes.

    • @SoarswithSwords
      @SoarswithSwords  20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      She’s my fiance, a H4, and very experienced at launching me while recording a video. I generally wouldn’t trust someone to do that, but with her I am 100% confident she will let go. If you watch, the person on my left wing actually held on for a moment on this launch.

  • @penrynbigbird
    @penrynbigbird 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What is your hang rating and time and experience?

    • @SoarswithSwords
      @SoarswithSwords  22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Hang 4, Mountain launch, turbulence, rlf, xc, aerotow ratings- about 270 flights and 95 hours over 7 years of flying.

    • @penrynbigbird
      @penrynbigbird 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@SoarswithSwords Ok, you mention in the video "should I have launched, I don't know, I didn't have the best control of the glider..." There's your answer to a long and healthy future in the sport. If you don't have absolute confidence/control of the glider it's to your advantage to opt not to launch. That's my H-5 opinion and I'm sticking to it...

    • @SoarswithSwords
      @SoarswithSwords  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@penrynbigbird yep that's why I made the video. I also said if I was in the same situation again, I wouldn't do it.

    • @webrambler88
      @webrambler88 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      When you hang out with a legend (John Heiney!) you must have had the best training available and yoyget the best advice

  • @jamesclarkson3009
    @jamesclarkson3009 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If a paraglider can handle it so can a hang glider?

    • @SoarswithSwords
      @SoarswithSwords  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      The one glider that was up when I launched landed soon after, and he may have launched when it was lighter earlier.

  • @artfisher1235
    @artfisher1235 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The view is always the same in every place.

    • @SoarswithSwords
      @SoarswithSwords  20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I’ve flown 4 ocean ridge soaring sites now, and I find them very different. Same with inland mountains and ridges.

  • @FrankFrankston-kj4sx
    @FrankFrankston-kj4sx 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Don't like the wire assists or t he basebar circus take-off "tecnique". I flew years solo at buffety windy sites. If you can't control the nose angle - you can't control the roll. Practice controlling pitch and roll via a slack harness strap, using down tube grips only.
    In same circumstances, the pilot in command ought BE IN ACTUAL COMMAND. An instructor should focus on developing awareness in the student in when or why he is or isn't in control.
    The flight itself doesn't matter that much.
    What matters is the student being in command and displaying competence via effectively cleanly taking off or effectively refusing the take-off- because he KNOWS he hasn't got control.

    • @xerophobic
      @xerophobic 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I agree , I have been in a nearly identical situation at the same site and it was suggested I use the basebar technique which i had never done and it frankly felt aweful not to mention the conditions were likely not the ones to attempt something brand new in. It simply doesnt feel very secure but at least he , like I, got away with it so to speak. Lesson learned......

    • @FrankFrankston-kj4sx
      @FrankFrankston-kj4sx วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks! So pitch control IS or Grants roll control! That's a concept all instructors need to impart to their students. One of the many benefits of using 2 place powered hang gliders as a hang gliding instructional aid, is this is learnt by the student in about 1 hour. Some in 15 minutes. You're 1st ever manoeuvres are 360 degree turns... How pitch changes affect the roll rate... To the point of tip stalling (and recovery).
      But if you're still teaching or learning in the "approved" stone age of hang gliding instruction, you could either learn or teach some of that via walking a wing - without a harness - across a windy take-off.
      Don't stuff it up - you might lose the glider! But in the right place in the right conditions, this can be an invaluable lesson. You'll learn the relationship between pitch and roll. Which is ALWAYS there.

  • @user-mt1uw8ks9c
    @user-mt1uw8ks9c 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Clickbait...

  • @donpardo9093
    @donpardo9093 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    boring~ ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

    • @ejcm55
      @ejcm55 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Were you hoping for a crash?

    • @TheIndyspace
      @TheIndyspace 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Boring people, are easily bored. 🙄

    • @28th_St_Air
      @28th_St_Air 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Thanks Debbie Downer.

  • @michaelbowman6301
    @michaelbowman6301 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Torrey Pines is not a hard take off, back in the late seventies where I used to work for Eipper hang gliders we used to go fly at Point Fermin in San Pedro When it was still open to fly, That was a scary take off the wind blowing up the cliff could be easily 25 to 30+ miles an hour. in fact I wired launched other for 2 years before I took off myself And flew on it myself. I sure do Miss this kind of Flying. 🙂👍🪂