I shouldn't have taken off.... Torrey Pines Hang Gliding (narrated)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 มิ.ย. 2024
- This is a flight that I honestly shouldn't have taken. I didn't have full control over the glider during ground handling. I did feel good at the moment I launched, but looking back on it, it was an unsafe decision. By the end of the day I was the only person in the air, that says a lot about the conditions.
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"no amount of skill can compensate for just a small amount of bad judgement"
My grand daddy told me this right before he died....sniff
no amount of judgement can replace skill.
Wow, that was a super smooth touchdown, especially in those blustery conditions. It never occurred to me that strong winds would make a landing back at the glider port problematic, and this is the first time I've seen La Jolla State Beach used as a secondary landing option for hang gliders that launched over Blacks Beach.
Seeing Blacks Beach at high tide in the winter brings back some fond memories of summer days spent down there inspecting the tan lines of UCSD coeds with an air of academic detachment.
Thanks! It was a good learning experience for me!
Ah, fond memories of flying my Eipper rogallo at Torrey Pines in 1974. Geez I'm getting old!
Your generation helped our generation have far safer gliders, and had to pioneer a lot of stuff we still use, so thanks!
I haven’t heard Eipper in ages. They were #1 in So Cal when I started. Iendld up buying a kit from Free Flight Systems.
@@FlatlandMountaineer-ru8ue The model I had was the 18' Flexi-Flier. It had the glide ratio of a smooth rock! When flying at Torrey Pines I got a lot of exercise carting that 40# on my shoulder back up to the top.
Me too. Taught by Floyd Fronius, son of Bob: president of the Ultralight Flyers Organization.
😢@@FlatlandMountaineer-ru8ueI used to work for Eipper hang gliders in the late seventies before they moved, We used to go fly at point Fermin in San Pedro sometimes, I never did get a chance to fly Torrey pines but I flew a lot of crystalline and Symar in the San Fernando Valley. and back in those days there are other places you can fly but are no longer open to flying, Yeah those were the Good old days.
In the end you are the pilot in command. Never should have hooked up if you have any doubt. Your instructor knew you could handle it and you did great. Have more faith in your abilities my friend.
Pro tip. If you're in enough wind that you can basically elevator down you should immediately get the glider stabilized and then unhook (especially if you have two individuals right in front of you that can assist). Getting ground looped while still attached to a hang glider is NO FUN - high risk of damage to the glider and yourself.
I was about to say the same - saw a glider get killed when he got the kite's tail onto the ground, and he got flipped over.
@@leifvejby8023 Where was that and what year??? Sorry you had to witness a fatality, that's something I was fortunate to never see in my 5 decades of flying hang gliders...
@@penrynbigbird It was on a "practice hill" in Denmark, must have been 1982.
Nice flight buddy, good landing
Thank you!
Nice flying dude! Glad you had wire assistance at takeoff!
I'm surprised that some paragliders are airborne 😱
If there's a paraglider flying, guessing one would be still on the green with a hang glider, no?
38 mph! I want to see the paragliding pilot's video 😮
I used to love to go out there and watch you guys fly. Grab a burger at the snack shack and enjoy the day. Perhaps hike down to the beach. Cool seeing it from your point of view. Lived in OB for four years. (Have you ever thought of giving VR rides with a live camera feed and VR goggles to spectators?)
Great video - great learning for others!
I love your honesty - yes, you should not have launched - yet you managed to everything right. I am sure you learnt a bundle!
Happy landings!
Thanks! If I can share a learning experience and help someone else out, that’s a huge win to me!
Good job! Congratulation!
You have admitted that you shouldn't have taken off, you didn't crash or injure yourself or bystanders, so call it a valuable learning experience.
We have all had flights like this.
It's impossible to know how winds will change, unless you ignored a wind increase forcast, at the time of take off the winds were good, 22-25 kmh are amazing soaring conditions, you had no way of knowing winds would increase. The importance is to stay alert of the changing winds and react accordingly which you did. Great experience of flying in strong winds :) !
Yeah the soaring was great, and I’ve soared at the Point of the Mountain at those speeds, the issue was a lack of control on launch.
@@SoarswithSwords You're the expert on that matter :) !
Cool video
Pretty nice video. La Jolla shores is where you landed.
When you fly out toward the ocean it’s like you’re trying to fly the glider to the Philippines 😉
🤣 looking for those mid ocean thermals.
Depend on your helpers. Could be scary after landing (bug on the back). The girl should look at you and not at her phone. Once i did similar, but no one at the front, only at the wires left and right. As i was starting, the guy on the right didnt let go. So i went in a nice roundhouse bang into the bushes.
She’s my fiance, a H4, and very experienced at launching me while recording a video. I generally wouldn’t trust someone to do that, but with her I am 100% confident she will let go. If you watch, the person on my left wing actually held on for a moment on this launch.
What is your hang rating and time and experience?
Hang 4, Mountain launch, turbulence, rlf, xc, aerotow ratings- about 270 flights and 95 hours over 7 years of flying.
@@SoarswithSwords Ok, you mention in the video "should I have launched, I don't know, I didn't have the best control of the glider..." There's your answer to a long and healthy future in the sport. If you don't have absolute confidence/control of the glider it's to your advantage to opt not to launch. That's my H-5 opinion and I'm sticking to it...
@@penrynbigbird yep that's why I made the video. I also said if I was in the same situation again, I wouldn't do it.
When you hang out with a legend (John Heiney!) you must have had the best training available and yoyget the best advice
If a paraglider can handle it so can a hang glider?
The one glider that was up when I launched landed soon after, and he may have launched when it was lighter earlier.
The view is always the same in every place.
I’ve flown 4 ocean ridge soaring sites now, and I find them very different. Same with inland mountains and ridges.
Don't like the wire assists or t he basebar circus take-off "tecnique". I flew years solo at buffety windy sites. If you can't control the nose angle - you can't control the roll. Practice controlling pitch and roll via a slack harness strap, using down tube grips only.
In same circumstances, the pilot in command ought BE IN ACTUAL COMMAND. An instructor should focus on developing awareness in the student in when or why he is or isn't in control.
The flight itself doesn't matter that much.
What matters is the student being in command and displaying competence via effectively cleanly taking off or effectively refusing the take-off- because he KNOWS he hasn't got control.
I agree , I have been in a nearly identical situation at the same site and it was suggested I use the basebar technique which i had never done and it frankly felt aweful not to mention the conditions were likely not the ones to attempt something brand new in. It simply doesnt feel very secure but at least he , like I, got away with it so to speak. Lesson learned......
Thanks! So pitch control IS or Grants roll control! That's a concept all instructors need to impart to their students. One of the many benefits of using 2 place powered hang gliders as a hang gliding instructional aid, is this is learnt by the student in about 1 hour. Some in 15 minutes. You're 1st ever manoeuvres are 360 degree turns... How pitch changes affect the roll rate... To the point of tip stalling (and recovery).
But if you're still teaching or learning in the "approved" stone age of hang gliding instruction, you could either learn or teach some of that via walking a wing - without a harness - across a windy take-off.
Don't stuff it up - you might lose the glider! But in the right place in the right conditions, this can be an invaluable lesson. You'll learn the relationship between pitch and roll. Which is ALWAYS there.
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Thanks Debbie Downer.
Torrey Pines is not a hard take off, back in the late seventies where I used to work for Eipper hang gliders we used to go fly at Point Fermin in San Pedro When it was still open to fly, That was a scary take off the wind blowing up the cliff could be easily 25 to 30+ miles an hour. in fact I wired launched other for 2 years before I took off myself And flew on it myself. I sure do Miss this kind of Flying. 🙂👍🪂