Jin was from a freestyle era when writing your rhymes was not allowed. Times changed when a lot of rappers were actually writing and that was the downfall of Jin when writing was normalized.
This marked the end of Jin's battling career but not just because he lost, it's because he knew the style of battling he mastered was coming to an end. Jin talked about this on Vlad. He came back to a different game.
Jin never caught up with the times, hes a great mc but should have scripted his battles too. International P ruined fightklub, he sucks as a host, his mic skills suck, his clothes suck, he sucks at everything he does.
Yeah me too. He was the greatest in my eyes back then. I remember a time where he battled 2 different guys at the same place and won both of them flawlessly. One of the greatest to ever do it imo before battle rap became heavily commercialized
Iron prepared. Jin did not. That's what happens when you bring a knife to a gun fight. This was fresh off Jin's loss to Serius Jones too. I know he won the '05 thing again but I don't know, he got exposed after all these losses. The freestyle off-the-head shit didn't cut it anymore against someone with a well prepared verse.
i just used the knife to a gun fight to describe jin and cassidy losing to solomon and goodz (lesser rappers) because they brought a knife to a gun fight and now i see your comment. must be the truth
Yeah but i feel bad for jin cuz he only lost to serius jones cuz of racial bars and if jin woulda said anything close to racist, the all black crowd woulda fucked him up then rob, loot, and burned down their own store and neighborhood
Then sometime later iron solomon had his ass handed to him worse by mook than he did to jin.. he was even more unprepared for that than jin was in this battle
@@whengothamisashes actually no, he was prepared but it was wack for the smack stage. also i can't confirm this but I think Mook and Jin were cool back then? So after Jin lost to Serious, wasn't that when Mook battled him right after?
I respect the frees off the top much more. Takes a lot more skill. These guys could have a crew of their boys just sitting around writing shit for months. But hey, its a different era.
Jin was freestyle off the top and Salomon had written everything previously. It’s 2 different eras colliding . But Jim happened to be in the wrong era at this battle unfortunately.
I was just thinking that... This is a prime example of the two eras bleeding together. Still tho, this wasn't exactly fair. They were both playing by different rules.
@@dallasbagleylol no they weren't...they were playing by the exact same rules. Jim could have wrote some 🔥 before the battle he chose to come off the top. Iron decided to write his disses and polish his lyrics and delivery. Completely fair and played by same rules just played with a different playbook
You can see after Iron's second round that Jin is visibly shaken and was taken out of his element. Jin didn't think Iron could free. That gulp @ 6:48 though.
Before this battle Jin beat Solomon before. With this battle Solomon prewrit like hell and done his research so was well prepared, Jin however, was overconfident as he was at his peak and didn't really prepare which shows in his freeing. Jin called Solomon out infront of a crowd at some kind of concert for a rematch, but Solomon wouldn't accept saying I've beat you once I don't want to waste my time. Shows how Solomons stuff was prewrit all researched and know he can't beat Jin again. Funny how Solomon uploads this as its the only thing he has to be proud of.
@@jrandomyo1077 Battle rap now sucks. No flow. It's all jokes and gimmicks now. I liked when you stuttered or stopped, your round was over. Now they say the same lines 20 times until you get it
@@newphilmz3605 Now most of the time, when they're repeating their lines over and over, they're trying to continue but the crowd wont shut up. And jokes and gimmicks? Lol. Check out Solomon vs Rum Nitty.
@@jrandomyo1077 During Fight Klub onc3 the crowd shut up you redid the last line and kept it going. These new battle rappers start the whole verse over and repeat it 10 times slower than before. And Iron Solomon has always been wack, Jin just fell off after Serius Jones
It probably was scripted, but the thing is, if you know you have an upcoming battle with someone, wouldn't you write a little bit to diss them? I know I would.
Mc Jin never gives up! Fast forward to 2023, he not only rapping in English and Cantonese but Mandarin. 2017 he went to rap of China but failed because of his Chinese. He went back to the rap of China, with E.So as his mentor and 2 others, they took 4th
"What you gonna do, survive off your fight club days? Nobody remembers those older rounds. The only thing people remember from Fight Club is "Yo! Hold it down! Hold it down!" That's how annoying your fucking host would sound!"-Dizaster *Dizaster vs Iron Solomon* Lmao who else caught that?
Yea, Jin was right. He just didn't prepare for this one. I think Jin wasn't fully healed from the Serius Jones battle. Not taking anything away from Solomon. He did his thing. I like these older battles. They are a lot better than the newer ones.
I think this might be the first time name flips of this nature was captured on film..notice I did not say this was the first time someone did name flips in a battle but I think the back to back name flips have never been seen like this
Admittedly, he spit some facts, but his last round didn't hit hard enough. In battles, you have to hit with hard punchlines, and let's face it, Solomon's lines hit harder and with more impact.
Iron Solomon is nice, but this performance was trash. Jin wasn't great either, but it seems like the crowd had made up their mind before the battle started, because they were hyped about trash lines from Solomon and sleeping on decent lines by Jin.
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That first round from Solomon is some of the best name flips I’ve heard til this day
Shit was dope. I always come back to this battle. Iron killed Jin without Chinese jokes.
FIGHT CLUB! FIGHT CLUB! FIGHT CLUB! Alright hold it down!!
Facts.
That was annoying as fuck! If you like that shit Haha
@@letitbeknown2973 Super annoying.
I was gonna write that LMAO
Trying to get people hyped then telling them to shut up 😭💀
The host gets all amped up until others join in, then he's on some 'Hold it down, Hold it down...FIGHT Klub Fight Klub" Silly muffugah
Drone Jones I was just thinking the same thing then I seen your post. Making the same point.
@fooloof Yes but he gets everybody hyped up and the very moment they "go in", he's like "STFU!"
International P will forever be hilarious!!
*breaking voice* “HOL’ IT DOWN, HOL’ IT DOWN”
Jin was from a freestyle era when writing your rhymes was not allowed. Times changed when a lot of rappers were actually writing and that was the downfall of Jin when writing was normalized.
Then bands up. You gotta come with the hardest bars period
That was never an era. Just the format of 106 & Park.
That wasn’t the downfall of Jin. That was the downfall of Battle Rap
@@jusraw649 the best battle raps to date were written. Wouldn’t call it a downfall.
@@Cameo131 you claim that not writing your freestyles is a format that was birthed at 106 and park. You shouldn’t comment
The host lost the battle
charlie clips 3-0
This marked the end of Jin's battling career but not just because he lost, it's because he knew the style of battling he mastered was coming to an end.
Jin talked about this on Vlad. He came back to a different game.
Accurate
Yea no more off the head accept rebuttals
The host looks like one of those people you see in the background in a Saved By The Bell episode. #SaveTheMax
The dissishun by unanimous... by the judges... Eyein' Salamin is the winna of this one y'all
Hold it down! Hold it down!
😂😂😂😂
Love how the hosts voice cracks while he's whispering but in his eyes screaming:
"Hold it down!"
this guy... (international P) yell ; Fight klub ! fight club to get hype, then yelled god damn hold it down hold it down, shut the f up. lol
Jin never caught up with the times, hes a great mc but should have scripted his battles too. International P ruined fightklub, he sucks as a host, his mic skills suck, his clothes suck, he sucks at everything he does.
Damn I miss this iron soloman 😭
Me and you both.
Yeah me too. He was the greatest in my eyes back then. I remember a time where he battled 2 different guys at the same place and won both of them flawlessly. One of the greatest to ever do it imo before battle rap became heavily commercialized
He was in line to be a GOAT. But he still left a legacy that’s why we come back to watch
LMAO at International P. "FIGHT CLUB!!! FIGHT CLUB!!! FIGHT CLUB!!! Ok, hold it down!"
Host: (Solomon raps for 40 seconds) *60!!*
Yeah there's noway his third was 60 second
@@gutterbois It was 44 seconds.
@@ZyrusSmith Because it was over at that point.
Na it was edited you can tell
Iron Solomon predicted Canibus pulling the notepad...
*GASP* IT WAS ALL PLANNED!!!! ITS A CONSPIRACY!!!! THUMBS UP FOR KILLUMINATIFIGHTCLUB!!!!
where can i see this
"you're career's the saddest story/ all your battles corny/ now you and canibus can share the same category" - Solomon
Johnnie Abu Selma Look up "Dizaster vs. Canibus" on TH-cam
you think I haven't seen that? I meant where can I see this prediction.. he didn't predict shit. it was a coincidence
Why the host get everyone callin Fight Klub and the tell them "Yo, Hol It Down?
i HATED THE HOST SON
haha i love the host, hes such a clown... His name is International P. Dude is so funny with his mannerisms
Truey Lewis That's the best part
🤣🤣
Because the chant ain’t supposed to last forever.
That host looks like a cross of swiss beatz, jim jones and Nipsy Hussle.
Lmao
5:21 Iron's reaction is priceless
That was hilarious. LOL
LMFAO
That bar was WILD!!
How about Jin at 4:00. The moment he knew he lost
@@newphilmz3605lol what a corny-ass line. Iron sucks
I read this before watching and couldn't help cracking up every time he did it - 'fight klub, fight klub...' hahah
the whole rhyming with the word jin scheme with solomon in his first round is incredible
Incredibly wack
They were written
It was cool back then but name flips got old fast lol
@@MCStefanHipHop no way really?
My syringe injected her lips like collajin 🔥
International P: FIGHT CLUB, FIGHT CLUB, FIGHT CLUB, FIGHT CLUB!!!!
Also International P: ALRIGHT, HOLD IT DOWN, HOLD IT DOWN, HOLD IT DOWN!!!!
Solomon was playing offense. Jin was playing defense.
Host: FIGHT CLUB! FIGHT CLUB! FIGHT CLUB! FIGHT CLUB! hold it down, hold it down!
That outfit was pretty retro back then
An absolute classic from Solomon.
0:52 the look on Jin's face is priceless!
Hold it down hold it down hold it down.... shits funny af !!!!!
Iron prepared. Jin did not. That's what happens when you bring a knife to a gun fight. This was fresh off Jin's loss to Serius Jones too. I know he won the '05 thing again but I don't know, he got exposed after all these losses. The freestyle off-the-head shit didn't cut it anymore against someone with a well prepared verse.
i just used the knife to a gun fight to describe jin and cassidy losing to solomon and goodz (lesser rappers) because they brought a knife to a gun fight and now i see your comment.
must be the truth
Yeah but i feel bad for jin cuz he only lost to serius jones cuz of racial bars and if jin woulda said anything close to racist, the all black crowd woulda fucked him up then rob, loot, and burned down their own store and neighborhood
Then sometime later iron solomon had his ass handed to him worse by mook than he did to jin.. he was even more unprepared for that than jin was in this battle
@@whengothamisashes actually no, he was prepared but it was wack for the smack stage. also i can't confirm this but I think Mook and Jin were cool back then? So after Jin lost to Serious, wasn't that when Mook battled him right after?
I respect the frees off the top much more. Takes a lot more skill. These guys could have a crew of their boys just sitting around writing shit for months. But hey, its a different era.
🤣 The host chanting fight club rallying everyone inbetween rounds, then expects them to hold it down mid chant hahaha
solomon sounds like he reading a nursery rhyme
You sound like a Crack head illegitimate son.
Paulyfr3sh Are you mad because he dissed your boyfriend? Jin won this.
Paulyfr3sh you sound like immortal technique illegitimate son.
Iron sounds like he’s reading Jin’s eulogy! First round murder ⚰️
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
that phone book punch line was devastating lol, I think jin was doin pretty good though especially during the first round
He literally *gulp*ed at the line 😭 6:45
This is when si became an Iron Solomon fan. The first time I saw him battle. I was a big Jin fan but Solomon was always a special talent too
P: FIGHT CLUB FIGHT CLUB FIGHT CLUB!!!
also P: AYO HOLD IT DOWN!!!
Jin was freestyle off the top and Salomon had written everything previously. It’s 2 different eras colliding . But Jim happened to be in the wrong era at this battle unfortunately.
I was just thinking that... This is a prime example of the two eras bleeding together. Still tho, this wasn't exactly fair. They were both playing by different rules.
@@dallasbagleylol no they weren't...they were playing by the exact same rules. Jim could have wrote some 🔥 before the battle he chose to come off the top. Iron decided to write his disses and polish his lyrics and delivery. Completely fair and played by same rules just played with a different playbook
You can see after Iron's second round that Jin is visibly shaken and was taken out of his element. Jin didn't think Iron could free. That gulp @ 6:48 though.
Nice writtens Solomon ...
International P's grave should read "*Hold it Down!*"
“Even International P Trying To Dress Like Plex!!” -Okwerdz
Other way round
give the host a cough drop
Jin super gay, I'll never forget that tip line 😂⏯️
the host is so damn funnyy!!!!! fight club fight club!! mdrr!!!!
hahahahahaahah Iron reacting to that line is so funny @ 5:19
5:19
😂😂😂😂
The funniest part about this is international p fist pumping "fight klub" and trynna get everyone hyped up
Before this battle Jin beat Solomon before. With this battle Solomon prewrit like hell and done his research so was well prepared, Jin however, was overconfident as he was at his peak and didn't really prepare which shows in his freeing. Jin called Solomon out infront of a crowd at some kind of concert for a rematch, but Solomon wouldn't accept saying I've beat you once I don't want to waste my time. Shows how Solomons stuff was prewrit all researched and know he can't beat Jin again. Funny how Solomon uploads this as its the only thing he has to be proud of.
Yall must hate battle rap now.
@@jrandomyo1077 right
@@jrandomyo1077 Battle rap now sucks. No flow. It's all jokes and gimmicks now. I liked when you stuttered or stopped, your round was over. Now they say the same lines 20 times until you get it
@@newphilmz3605 Now most of the time, when they're repeating their lines over and over, they're trying to continue but the crowd wont shut up. And jokes and gimmicks? Lol. Check out Solomon vs Rum Nitty.
@@jrandomyo1077 During Fight Klub onc3 the crowd shut up you redid the last line and kept it going. These new battle rappers start the whole verse over and repeat it 10 times slower than before. And Iron Solomon has always been wack, Jin just fell off after Serius Jones
International P “hold it down y’all, hold it down!!!!!!”
Does everyone actually realize how hard it is to freestyle in front of cameras and a packed hostile room ... wasn’t great but that shit is hard
i don't think Jin was freestyling
Wild recommendation from TH-cam for this one in 2024 lol
Fight club! Fight club! Fight! ...ok! Ok! Hold it down
Always was a fan of ya battles but somehow just saw this first time today. 🔥Fire 🔥
"I'm freestyling, I'm freestyling while I'm flow....quit bitching and ho'in"
Solomons last round wasn’t even 60 seconds they just cut off the embarrassment 😂
Iron Solomon 1st round is goated in battle rap killed his ass with his own name
"FIGHT CLUB FIGHT CLUB FIGHT CLUB"!!!!!!!😂 I bet the host couldn't talk the next day
It probably was scripted, but the thing is, if you know you have an upcoming battle with someone, wouldn't you write a little bit to diss them? I know I would.
0:18 and on word play on "jin" was just lethal iron was crazy back then lol
Irons first round legendary
End of the freestyle era of battle rap.
Mc Jin never gives up! Fast forward to 2023, he not only rapping in English and Cantonese but Mandarin. 2017 he went to rap of China but failed because of his Chinese. He went back to the rap of China, with E.So as his mentor and 2 others, they took 4th
P - "Fight Club Fight Club Fight Club!" Everyone else - "Okay, Fight Club Fight..." P - HOLD IT DOWN! HOLD IT DOWN! HOLD IT DOWN!!!!!!
Yea….. what do u expect? 10 minutes of that? It wasn’t meant to be said 5000000x. Shit, at a graduation, how long do u clap??
“Now you and Cannabis in the same category “ ………Jins face lol
yeah so what my album flopped 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"What you gonna do, survive off your fight club days? Nobody remembers those older rounds. The only thing people remember from Fight Club is "Yo! Hold it down! Hold it down!" That's how annoying your fucking host would sound!"-Dizaster *Dizaster vs Iron Solomon*
Lmao who else caught that?
Me....! Lol diz was on fire..!
Hours sitting down writing rhymes for Jin and man came with all 💯 freestyles. Not a fair fight. Now all these battle raps are writtens.
Iron is a incredible writer
He's corny
*an
@@meltednostrilsbornwithoutn781 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lmao at that first verse
Hold it doooooown
Soloman's first round 1 was bonkers
Yea, Jin was right. He just didn't prepare for this one. I think Jin wasn't fully healed from the Serius Jones battle. Not taking anything away from Solomon. He did his thing. I like these older battles. They are a lot better than the newer ones.
This is the host Diz was talking about lol...hollll itt downnnn
that first freestyle should be a meme
Round 1 - TIE
Round 2 - Solomon
Round 3 - Solomon
FIGHT KLUB FIGHT KLUB FIGHT KLUB, HOLD IT DOWN!!!
The announcer is like a Mr. Meekseeks.
God dammit Jin, Wtf happened here?
lol that iron solomon first round was crazy
I think this might be the first time name flips of this nature was captured on film..notice I did not say this was the first time someone did name flips in a battle but I think the back to back name flips have never been seen like this
that second round is one of the most deadliest
This battle and Serius Jones killed Jin's battle career.
Was this episode filmed in the early 1990? International p's shirt is all kinds of ladies isle three.
Loved Jin's last verse.
You’re the only 1
Admittedly, he spit some facts, but his last round didn't hit hard enough.
In battles, you have to hit with hard punchlines, and let's face it, Solomon's lines hit harder and with more impact.
@@Cameo131no, he's not.
@@suave_dyea, good job pre-writing our "freestyles", Solomon. Congrats on the win
@@hunkydori yeah, Solomon’s prewritten freestyle was better than Jin’s prewritten freestyle
How much money was on the line for this battle?
Jin flip off rip was actually fire mad simple but got no reaction ain’t heard someone say my name that min since your mom
lmaooo FIGHT CLUB FIGHT CLUB!!!
Jin had started cooking at the end of the first round.
Who is here in 2020 during the covid lockdown
High five bro😂
“We’ll all take shots of gin”
Out of curiosity: how can i *hol it down*
I still think Iron is still so dope
THE HOST "FIGHT CLUB FIGHT CLUB FIGHT CLUB" "ALRIGHT SETTLE DOWN".....hmmm
Thats the 2fast 2furious mechanic lol
FIGHT CLUB FIGHT CLUB FIGHT CLUB!!!.. alright hold it down hold it down hold it down hahah
Jin is a legend
Had to come back and watch this after Hollow posted that this is where the name flips trend started.
The only reason I respect Jin and say he won this is because he ALWAYS is freestylin and still keepin it goin.
Idk man lol I respect Jin for coming off the top...but objectively there's no part of this battle he won bruh lol
HOLD IT DOWN, HOLD IT DOWN
lmao the best part is the host
Solomon Round 1- 0:12
Solomon Round 2- 3:03
Solomon Round 3- 6:12
Iron Solomon is nice, but this performance was trash. Jin wasn't great either, but it seems like the crowd had made up their mind before the battle started, because they were hyped about trash lines from Solomon and sleeping on decent lines by Jin.
The crowd weren’t the ones who decided you clown.
Jin is waccckk
@@cuLiref mhm, sure, whatever you say
What's the name of this league? O right how could I forget
2020 thinking about that black cloud around ya aura JJIN