Top 10 STRONGEST Pokemon in Gen 2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 มิ.ย. 2024
- Today I'm taking a look at the STRONGEST Pokemon in the 2nd Generation! Note, this is based on the competitive nature of the Pokemon during the gen, so this isn't reflective of how they perform now!
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Snorlax is well rounded physically and literally.
I'm still kinda shocked that Karen didn't have tyranitar as her ace, nor anyone of that matter in gen two. It's a powerhouse that I can't believe nobody used in the main game
Right, it would have been a great ace, especially in the remakes.
Pseudo legendaries are kinda hard to find in gen1 and 2 games
@@joshuamtzchz2596 Lance had 3 in gen 1
@@andyvozzamusic yeah that was bullsh*t as hell. But the bigger bullsh*t is Blue able to beat Lance for the temporary championship.
@@ashnguyen2950 I suppose it is important to note that Lance had two unevolved Pseudos, plus Blue's team was reasonably balanced
"Gengar's biggest problem is its fertility."
My guy, _what?_
Thought I was hearing things glad to know someone else heard it too 😅
@@TheOneAndOnlyFroBoy I heard it too
Listen, he can't help it, he's not even alive anymore 😒
Gengar hit menopause in Gen 2.
Within the context, I assume he means to say ‘Versatility” but messed it up like someone saying ‘Paradigm’ for the first time and pronounces it like it looks 😂
I mean I can see why fertility might be a problem for Gengar considering it’s a ghost 🤔
New meaning to phantom appendage 🤣
@@davidforsythe8231got me laughing at work lol
@@uglyskully5928 glad at least someone can laugh at work lol always makes the shift better
19:41
Snorlax with actual legs is pure nightmare fuel. Now you really can't run away from Snorlax.
So the ideas for Gen 2 competitive were: 1 set up spikes, 2 be able to roar or whirlwind your opponent constantly, 3 be Snorlax
Would’ve been funny if Whirlwind blew away spikes
I would also like to mention that Fighting types became a lot better in gen 2. It had Stab on Steel and Dark, and Dark was also a good partner for it to wipe Psychic types of the field. And Fire also got better because Steel was weak to it, and had weaker special defense.
While I agree for obvious reasons. The good fighting type Pokemon in gens 1 and 2 were only Machamp and Heracross :(
Gen 3 is where they gave us some banger fighting type mons such as Blaziken, Breloom, Medicham and Haryiama
Fire got better because steals got a weakness.. that doesn’t add up..
But there weren't good fighting moves. They had good coverage tho. I just started a few days ago and didn't use fighting types because they don't got good moves.
Fire type also gained the resintance to ice that it didn't have in gen 1
@@benjaminminton3811 he literally said it in the comment. "Steel" is weak to fire. What's not adding up?
Often used Umbreon in competitions and it's really strong;
My setup
1- toxic
2- safeguard
3- moolinght
4- other attack
item: leftovers
Evs all defense (or + HP +physical def)
nature: +physical def -special atk
For what generation?
Miltank is everybody's trainer nightmare.
My Exeggcute with Leech Seed, Reflect and Hypnosis: haha l00sah
You can get the trade Machop from the Department Store and absolute ruin that Miltank
@@skarmory93 did it and it was still difficult, but at least it worked
I'm not going to lie, I always found Snorlax's dominance to be the most hilarious thing back then when I was a kid. So many kids restarted their game just to get the Snorlax that they killed off in their first run. 🤣
Generation 2 was just build different. I could watch Gen 2 videos all day.
The best check to a Snorlax in Gen 2 is a Snorlax with Selfdestruct.
Another nice listing. I look forward to seeing your gen 3 listing!
Gengar’s biggest problem is its fertility. Never knew.
When it comes to Snorlax checks we should also mention Machamp. Its not a counter since switching into Snorlax is very dangerous as it lacks normal resistance but switching into a resting Snorlax turns the tables really fast as any Snorlax lacking Sleep Talk is immediately f*cked. Its nice to see Machamp going from one of the most unfortunate fully evolved pokemon in gen 1 to an absolute beast in gen 2. Gen 2 was a godsend for fighting types
I second that I also believe machamp is a good answer to snorelax I think just one crit cross chop would be enough for a snorelax
@@slurmsmckenzie. I agree, Cross Chop is lethal and a sleeping Snorlax has no good answer to Machamp
Snorlax’s new nickname is Samoa Joe 🤙🏼
I hope Golem gain access Rapid Spin as part of it's Lv up plus Rapid Spin got a major buff onwards as well
I just realized Snorlax also looks like someone in a suit like Bewear
That Skarmory Steiner edit is 👌🏾🤣
So I generally agreed with you on most of the other lists. But you and i have wildly differing opinions here. My top 3 are Lax (cause duh) Skarm (as the only thing to reasonably answer lax) and suicune. Zapdos cloyster raikou TTar starmie umbreon forretress. Though the golem tech is admittedly a very cool role compression I hadn’t seen before, but steelix didnt feel useful to me, i usually had ice coverage for exeggutor, gengar I just never really ran into and when I did it was so frail it usually just died to whatever move I was using anyways. Most commonly it was coming in to spinblock my cloyster and would just die to surf on the prediction. I think your points are still valid and were basically just splitting hairs here since all of these mons are excellent in their own right
Umbreon with Curse + Baton Pass + Toxic + Moonlight was my go to in GSC stall meta. And if that wasnt enough, I could always baton pass the stat boosts to the sleeptalk snorlax.
I knew from start that snorlax was going to top....kind of sad it isn't in scarlet violet
I'm treating Jynx, Tauros, Exeggutor, Steelix and rest of the Pokemon in Top 10 in each Gen as honorable mentions in Top 10 Pokemon for each type.
Im very curious why tendacruel is in honorable mentions and what moves must use!
I was looking for this video last week lol
Would you consider Lanturn to be a good Pokémon for Gen 2? It was the MVP of my Crystal team
From my understanding, Lanturn is outclassed since it gets completely walled by Snorlax, whereas electric types like Zapdos and Raikou can sometimes 3HKO Snorlax with Thunder.
Cool video! Very insightful. Are the chapter title misspellings a joke or an accident?
Gen 1 comp.: Body Slam's, Blizzard's, Thunder Wave's, and Psychic Type's.
Gen 2 comp.: Leftover's, and Bulk.
10.Steelix
9.Golem
8.Skarmory
7.Tyranitar
6.Exeggutor
5.Gengar
4.Raikou
3.Cloyster
2.Zapdos
1.Snorlax
thank me later :)
no
you could've added timestamps
Yes timestamps would have been great
Man I was playing through Crystal Clear and I got to the elite 4 and they threw out an Umbreon and I hit it was a super effective move and it barely did anything AND I was like 15 levels above it. I was like holy crap, I didn't know Umbreon was a wall all these years >< it was actually a huge problem to get through in my playthrough, because you can't use items during battle at the elite 4 and I only had 2 Pokemon that could even put a dent in it. I was hung up on the Elite 4 for a little bit trying to find an answer to it.
Fighting red legit snorlax was the 1st proper battle on my 1st playthrough back in the early 2000s on the gameboy it would always rest and be able to k.o my level 78 hitmo chan i swapped over for gen one. Surprisingly i knocked it out with nidoking from pokemon red then used my lugia with ice beam and surf at level 74 to knock out the venesaur and charizard . It was the the espeon and pickachu with there status effect moves that made it slow but what a great memory getting to mount silver and seeing the original ash/red sprite as a battle with bloody level 70s and 80s lol my mates at school didn't belive me because i couldnt obviously go back to the match after it was won to show them untill they eventually got there on there own games . I think i had a missingo traded over that turned into a donphan and fked the cartridge up lol
Explosion and Selfdestruct users should use the Pink Bow in Gen 2! I have seen the big booms leave the target with a sliver of health so many times it hurts. Then the survivor proceeded to use Rest. Just because the boomer had Leftovers they did not use. 🎀💥🎀
Or you could boost it with curse, and keep leftovers
If I remember correctly, the Gen 2 meta mainly centered around what could counter Snorlax and what were its best partners. It was also really stall heavy.
In other words, it was boring at the competitive level. Lots of status problems, spikes, roar, rest etc
Yeah, that being considered I don't think there were any fighting types on this list?
Where did you get all the TCG artworks in such definition?
I like to give Steelix Dragon Breath and Crunch as a form of coverage
I just started again after 20years. Gengar is my current nr1. He wrecks everything (bar Red) with hypnosis and dreameater
Love Gen 2 and damn sure loves the remakes
Dunno if anyone played the liquid crystal rom years ago the fire red i think remake but that was awesome . The original crystal will always be my fave . Lugia, typloshion and tyranitar all grinded to level 80 as a kid would be my top 3 plus nidoking and mewtwo at level 72 and 78 sent from gen 1 on the link cable thing back then were what i went to play groud with. Always had a surfing kanghastan with 2 water guns and sky attack basically cinnabar islands glitch. Hes attack was just knockouts but shit defence
I personally like Gen 2 Meta, it's much better than how power creep the Gens later became, minus things like tera.
My standard gen 2 set for Snorlax runs Toxic, Rest, Substitute, and Hidden Power Dark
Snorlax is so good.
I never see anyone put shadow ball on him.
Thats what i do.
Body slam. Shadowball. Rock slide Ice punch for coverage even if his special attack sucks. But adding 4 super effectie type hits is awesome.
And then there alot
19:35 unexpected Scott Steiner 😂
I used to have 2 different move sets for Umbreon
Mean Look
Toxic
Moonlight
Baton Pass
Mean Look
Sand Attack
Moonlight
Baton Pass
It can definitely be such a good mean look strat Pokémon
Rest is used ALOT in gen 2. it wont work that great
Clearly, I do not play Gen 2 competitive, Snorlax was nowhere near my thoughts about what could be left just before number 1. As someone who just played upto Gen 4 and then just did the occasional Gen 2 run, before getting back in with Shield, the only remaining Pokémon that came to mind was Kingdra.
Now I am wondering what about Kingdra makes it lag behind, movepool, stats?
mediocre attacks coming off unremarkable stats, hydro pump and the like not being viable because of how bulky the meta is, and still no dragon stab.
dragon dance and weather (rain + swift swim) didn’t exist yet which is what made kingdra good in competitive for the first time in like gen 4/5. physical special split did wonders for it too.
This might seem like a dumb question, but when he was talking about not many counters for snorlax, and then mentioned skarmory, why didn't people use fighting types or moves against Snorlax? Surely a Machamp or something, Crosschop would have been a decent strategy if that many people were abusing Snorlax?
HES FAT!!! Thank you so much for more Scott Steiner in Pokemon videos!
How come dragonite gets the short end of the stick? He's the real MVP
How do you feel about Kingdra in general?
Kingdra is strong in gen2 but not the best movepool.
Can't believe people actually still play gen 2 competitively. Many years ago I was hanging around the top of the competitive scene before gen 3 was released. I won some big tournaments and had some wins over some big names. The meta was well defined at that point but only 3 I used are listed- eggy, zapdos and snorlax.
Are we not going to address that Alakazam can learn the elemental punches and Psychic to cover a 10 super effective spread (considering they are all special attacks in this gen) with only 3 weaknesses???
Im a firm believer that the low base stats for pokemon in gen two should have been the standard. Gen three was a good power kreep with abilities but gen four and onward just went crazy.
Do you play those tiers yourself or is the top 10 based on smogon viability ranking?
that scott steiner edit was perfect lol
I was expecting ONLY gen 2 pokemon
Wouldn't be enough to make a top 10.
Re: your discussion of umbreon, mean look + baton pass is currently banned in Smogon’s GSC OU
I’m very surprised Raikou was chosen instead of Suicune considering that thing is the epitome of gen 2’s stall based competitive scene.
Is this also more competitive rather than a playthrough? If so he really needs to state that in the title. Noone likes wasting time on a video that wasn't what they were expecting. Not being an ass just wishing it for playthroughs
every single pokémon is viable in a regular playthrough of a pokémon game lol i don’t know a single person needing to look up videos on how to build a team to beat a vanilla game.
It's not that I need to. It's that I want too. I'm interested in what other people think is good for a playthrough lol
Suicune really shone in Gen III when it got Calm Mind. On NetBattle is was one of the craziest Pokemon. Calm Mind Raikou was popular as well, but not as much as Suicune.
Ghost type being entirely under the umbrella of "physical" until gen 4 is so absurd, and I spent years of my life thinking the opposite.
Does this apply to heart gold as well
I remember destroying everything in Crystal with Furret with ice punch and rollout
Just to give an idea on how strong snorlax is
Mewtwo is 2nd in gen 2 ubers
Snorlax was a nightmare battleing red.
I keep keep hearing and seeing people mention the ability spikes..not just in this gen .why is it so game changing??
Snorlax has always been on my teams. Overall an amazing Pokémon that demands respect. Don’t sleep on him! 😂
Perhaps it's because I never used a tauros when I was 13 playing Gen 1, but I didn't see it in the number 1 spot. I didn't even consider it for the top 10...
Tauros was quite good in Gen 1 tbh. The Gen 1 critical hit mechanics was based on Speed stat, so Tauros body slam was extremely likely to critical hit or paralyze. Plus Tauros Special was 70 and Blizzard had an accuracy of 90%. In other words, Tauros hit really hard
I need the gen 2 music while i work out but cant find it. its great and brings back memories
Just followed mystic reads hope it's worth it lol 😆
It’s actually a fact that every asleep Snorlax not in gen 2, is dreaming about being in gen 2
I know it's weird, but am I the only one who always places recovery moves first, than support moves, than physical moves non-STAB first, than STAB, and than Special moves first non-STAB, than STAB so that move's power increases the lower I place the move?
For example, Gen 1 Alakazam would be:
Recover
Reflect
Thunder Wave
Psychic
For Gen 2:
Recover
Thief
Ice Punch
Psychic
1:55 start
Why Starmie isn’t in the list ? 🤔
I'm a low tier human
only one i agree with is Raikou. Cant tell you how many opponents i smoked with Raikou. Where is Typholsion? Ampharos? Lapras? Lugia?
Nice use of Big Bad Booty Daddy 😎
Haha Big poppa pump!
Love Main Event Mafia
Steelix tyranitar is awesome 😎.
Give porygon2 some respect gyat its a beest
Kinda weird not seeing the rest of the three queens; Blissy, Suiecuin and Snorlax.
I’ve seen far more suicunes than riakous lol
It would seem you are a fan of explosion
To be honest, zapdos is ridiculous in its own right, that thunders hurt and without snorlax, it is too good for the tier at all. When snorlax is sss, zapdos is at least s rank, since the fall of raikou people give this bird even more respect. I think official snorlax is sss, zapdos is ss and cloyster s, they are considered to be on every good team (while cloyster being the chansey that can be switched with some skill)
I think all your choices are good.
No cross chop machamp?
I love the wrestling references lol
Shuckle is not one to be f**kled with!
Don't dare cross Heracross!
Kinda feels like Gen 2 Pokemon's greatest stats are Defense. Steelix, Umbreon, Shuckle, Suicune, all have high defenses.
To this day, Zapdos is STILL one of the best Pokémon in competitive.
Skarmory is also a spike setter ...
@Jazzy-B word i def dont remember skar spikes back in 02
Did he just say Rykoh? 🤨
Curious to find out why typholsion was missing?
Because it's not that good in Gen 2 OU
Guy said 3/4 pokemon from Gen 1 :D
i would love if u mention how to get thesse pokemon aswell, otherwise a great video!
just google it
not that hard
Gotta love the unhinged insanity that is Scott Steiner with a live mic.
I personally think umbreon and nidoking should be in spot 9 and 10
What confuses me about this video is the statement that the Gen 2 meta is still developing; how? The game is 22 years old so nothing is changing within it.
People play on simulators and have events/tourneys every day. It's got a huge following! And it's people trying new strategies on those same unchanged pokemon and other people trying to counter those new strats that keep the game evolving
Lv 100 Pidgey wrecks all
ironic that meganium is the best starter competively when it was fairly useless in a play through
Why is typhlosion consider so bad
Plz explain
It's a clone of charizard but charizard typing(though not the best) gives it a second STAB as well as an immunity to ground. And CHARIZARD IS BAD, but it's got more going for it than typhlo sadly
Like this if you had absolutely no idea that Misdreavus was in Generation 2.
I just went through silver again for the first time in awhile.
Nidoking is honestly. So meh with stats.
And a top 5 movepool in the game.
But hes a poison type. That cant use sludebomb.. lol
Me: “is this that one guy?” Avatar shows up “oh fuck yeah I love this guy”
10:55 "Gengar's biggest problem is it's fertility" erm, what?
Gen 3 Sapphire was where I first had a real appreciation for Magnemite and Skarmory.