Tensions Escalate Between DRC and Rwanda - Straight Talk Africa
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- On this edition of Straight Talk Africa, guest host Vincent Makori explores the growing tensions between Rwanda and the Democratic Republic of Congo. Guests include Kwezi Mngqibisa, research fellow at the University of Johannesburg, Claude Gatebuke, executive director of African Great Lakes Action Network and reporters Anasthasie Tudieshe and Eugene Unimana.
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Brother you know exactly what’s happening on the ground . You nailed it . It’s the leaderships and the west that if fueling the conflict
Claude has a brilliant analysis his sport on his very factual with his information. There have been demonstrations in congo asking Museveni's UPDF army and Kagame's army to leave. The Congolese realised Museveni and Kagame are the problems they have in Congo.
No! Claude is well known as an enemy of Rwanda , that's why he is trying to defend Congo and FDLR. But Rwanda is a blessed country even if every body is against it, it will prevail.
Enemy? You sound brainwashed from kagame ism
Thanks brothers Claude and Kwezi for your findings
Gatebuke umwana wa genocidere yiyita umucikacumu wa Genocide! This is really crazy
Great information…. I have learnt a lot. Rwanda should just leave Congo alone. They want peace in their country. It’s enough…..
Rwanda is not only in Congo please take a case study in Uganda as Claude told you initially about the two war lords who started this
Thank you sir , now the common denominator for all this insecurities is Museveni and kagame! Until this is solved , peace will always remain history
Claude should be the president of Rwanda one day.
hahahahaha! you kill me ;That's irrational
This stupid can't be my president
You want Rwanda to burn? That guy is a liar and killer like his parents and friends. He is a killer like his Mukwege guy.
Ahaaaaaaaaaaaa
@21, Thank you Gatebuka for staying honest. We need more Rwandan like you for peace in the region
Claude in far from being honest...he should stop the unfounded accusations of Rwanda...
@@francoissg For you Rwandan pro-Kagame being honest is to take the lyng side of kagame. We now know! Stop the lies. Rwanda is Killing!
What is wrong with us Africans anyways? When will we realise that we are better together? So sad indeed.
We are not all the same.
Too many europeans in Africa, they should be servants.
Ask Kagame and the tutsis
@@mwatuwangoma3415 We are all humans, homo sapiens, and children of God. Africa has over 3000 ethnic groups, divided into the Bantu, Nilotic, Cushitic, and San. The diversity is unmatched anywhere else on earth. A Croatian and Italian are also not the same culturaully or even genetically but they are both Europeans and get along, Congolese in Diaspora comes across as quite ignorant and primivite in my opinion. Peace and Blessings from a Borana man.
@@nassergabriel4778 Well that's your opinion.
Thank you, no justice, no peace. You are absolutely right. No international interference. It is an African problem. Afrca will be United by all means necessary. We are not worried by these DOOMSDAY sayers. Be vigilant, the struggle continues!
You're right it's an "African" problem but it's actually a regional and even bi-national issue. But what exactly do you mean by "united"? Unite who and how? By taking Chinese money in exchange for your natural resources and infrastructure? For what? Yall can barely keep your actual countries together. Ethiopia is about to start a war with Egypt, right now with this dam. How can you "unite"? You have no historical foundation for any unity beyond your tribes and ethnic groups, which isn't necessarily a problem. But if you can barely feed the people in your own country how in the hell are you going to "unite"? Develop your OWN country then trade with your neighbors and the rest of the world. Yall need to think in REALITY, not fantasy. The fact that they're actually talking about the Belgians, in this video is simply delusional. "Unite", right now would just be mass migration from extremely poor and unstable to countries to barely stable countries, think Nigerians fleeing to Ghana by the millions. What do you think will happen in Ghana, or South Africa or Namibia when millions of poor, no-skilled migrants try to flood their country?? You're already seeing the results of this in S. Africa. Do YOU. Then you won't need to "unite".
@@cavaleermountaineer3839 Jeez man u really are screwed up in the head. All I know is people like u most definitely don't have any answers for problems like these.
Hello is it that just a dream or what is it all here about please!!! If we as Africans wanted it the way all of us filled then we need to think, act independently as AU.and If at all we Rwanda and Uganda shouldn't participated in regional deployment ok otherwise it will spark more than the region deserve
@@cavaleermountaineer3839 real passionate, but no more than anyone else who thinks business is more important than heritage. You don’t understand cuz you was taught worldly things that can’t see past war,politics and economics. Is this what civilizations gonna be forever?
This is the most balanced objective reporting and dialog I've yet to hear on this complex issue...Thanks for sharing...I commend all three of these gentlemen for the way they conducted themselves...
Mr. Gatebuke well done your narration nears the truth! The truth is since 1960s Tutsis of East Africa has been pursuing a Tutsi-Hima agenda of forming Hima empire! These guys thet do not listen to any thing and will do anything possible to meet their objectives. See what happened in Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi in 1962-2003 and now DRC where they need to capture North Kivu and declare it a break way from DRC and make it a new republic under Tutsis. Then once they have taken North Kivu it will be the turn of Burundi, then Tanzania and they will be done! But to achieve their objectives an uphill task lays ahead of them because of the following reasons: Number one, Rwandese new generations do not want to wage manhunt of their fellow Rwandese Hutus. Secondly, Rwanda will be commiting suicide to attempt attacking Tanzania. Third, Burundi which now has Hutu-Tutsi armed forces will be more dangerous to attack because that will clearly mark the end of Tutsis role politically in the all East African countries! Ugandans will no longer tolerate the Bahima now ruling the country.
Totally agree with the gentleman from in Tennessee, regarding the greedy extortion of minerals and goods from Congo by the two Rwandese brothers, Kagame and Yoweri Museveni.
thank you very much Mr Claude Gatebuke.
Good analysis
Until Museveni and Kagame are out of power, and held captive, the region will not have peace.
Claude👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Call up leaders from both sides, and make them understand.
To have development, you must have peace.
What are you fighting for?.
Power? Wealth or America?,
Greed and hypocrisy is killing Africa
This reporter is on mission
Claude is on point .
He is just another genocidaire offspring. Nothing smart he has to say. He's been showing his bias on air. Nothing else. His father is a genocidaire and now he portays himself as a "genocide survivor". Give me a break!
Correction: off point...he should be ashamed of himself for his unfounded accusations of Rwanda...DRC should find solutions to it's internal issues...
If Rwanda continue terrorising DRC Congo will destroy Rwanda....
Fuck Rwanda......
You’re deluded...where there’s smoke there’s a fire. Accusations on Rwanda befall the Rwanda President and his government. Their geopolitical policies are causing instability not only in Congo but in Burundi, Uganda and soon other parts of the region. Their greed for land and resources is bringing out the bizarre wars w are seeing now and of course they are supported by the US which funds their military programs and won’t chastise them (Kagame & Museveni) for their war mongering
Don’t forget to send this message to the fighters that when the locust are fighting, the hawks are feeding the locust!
Fire
precocious
These rebel groups have always overwhelmed government forces and caused serious humanitarian catastrophes on the continents as tigrsy in Ethiopia who many thousand died and
What kind mediator can Rwanda and Uganda render in such a ligations, really what and where is the heads of AU think of such issues let's think the hard ways please or else things will go out of the AU hands
The big problem began in Berlin when the whites divided Africa the way they want regardless of languages and cultures.
Tha fact that there are people speaking KinyaRwanda in Congo, this will always create conflicts cause Congolese Government does not take them as Congolese.
This is where the whole structural conflicts relies on
So your point is Congolese are the one going round killing Kinyarwanda speaking people? And Rwandan government is simply supporting Kinyarwanda speaking people? If you are correct why not Rwanda show more support for Kinyarwanda speaking people by welcoming them in Rwanda?
YES SIR, 144 YEARS AGO AND AFRICA HAS NEVER BENN FREE EVERSINCE. The Divide and conquer Method is their greatest weapon. But the Table will Turn.
Peace Peace please for brothers an sister
Our goal is to Unite all African countries in this continent. Hence for, this conflict must not start. AU, leadership team must interven to stop it.
1:14 African unity in action.
true Rwanda Kagame's government .always accuse ts oppostons for gernocde even when they are nnocent when ever you have dfferent vew wth agame you are made a genocdal??
Prof. Lumumba was right when he said Africa is weak. Can't Africa ever unite? REBEL activities has engulfed the continent, and this had brought untold suffering on the people
Many others displaced.... Many countries have suffered under these rebel groups in their confrontations with African government troops .....am.sure they're all over Africa
It's clear ??? A local journalist starts a news report.
If anyone try to prove our territory, our country will defend our selves
I think, that: Africa:
needs to:
Unite; (together!!).
"#STRONGer, TOgether!!"!!
"#Everyone, needs: good- neighbour's!!"??
Before that, we, Kongolese, need to slap Uganda and Rwanda.
For your information, the war is inevitable due to world economic crisis. Their masters won't allow Peace simply a Strong Afrika is a Weak EU, Canada, Australia & USA.
The only way will be for Rwandese and Ugandans to get rid of their leaders Manu Militari and give them to Kongo for genocide Trial.
War is Inevitable.
Russia v/s Ukraine, China v/s Taiwan & Kongo v/s Rwanda/Uganda.
This is only the continuation of History since Colonization, WWI, WWII and currently WWIII
@@bobbeko5985
only if the PEOPLE; allow it.
REFUSE to: fight (for "the elites!?"??); against: each other and it could/should: Go Away; [T.B.H.]!!
that's impossible, each one of us is too far gone.
can anyone here identify me how can tell the differences between congolese and tutsi or hutu ?
If this is the case then East African Federation will never take off
If they don’t get things right, they both can be taken over by outside powers!
WHEN SHALL WE SET ASIDE OTHERS' AND OUR OWN PERPETRATION OF SABOTAGE UPON EACH OTHER & COME TOGETHER TO SUPPORT OURSELVES, RWANDA, OUR PEOPLE AND CROSS-BORDER TRADE???
Claude Gatebuka is misinterpreting the situation for political interest and that's really bad to the region hate, because people mix their personal interest to common ones, this will lead our region no where. VOA, you better bring guests whose are really experts not corruptive minds like one of Claude. Shameeee
If there is no reunification in the landscape the God of the cosmos will bring no success. Return to love of thy people's one nation 🙏 ❤️
North Kivu to Rwanda and problems solved. DRC is not a real country
The kingdom of Rwanda was one of the biggest kingdoms then in Africa...it is going to be difficult to eliminate this group of people,their lives matter also they're are Congolese
Those are made up lies with no facts. Ancient Rwanda was smaller than today's Rwanda. Go learn true history, not propaganda
Plz watch: Mulenge Speaks by John Kapapi
@@lelkaya7912 But as a people, the Watutsi are among the most impressive tribes just as the the Hausa, Fulani, Ashanti, Dinka, Somali and Habesha people. At least in ancient terms. I can't even name a single Congolese tribe.
@@nassergabriel4778 Then you should go ask for the refund of your school fees if you took African history class.
@@nassergabriel4778 stupid!! Bakongo one of the biggest tribe exported across the globe as slaves and built one of the biggest kingdoms in west central Africa. Go back to school
That fellow should read East Africa through 1000 years and get some facts... some areas in Africa are named after some one some thing which took place, where these people ruled they have a trail
The truth for all this problems. Is mukojo mudande no one knows this
I like claude's truthful tongue.
congo need a good leader probs outside of congo
Let me ask you a question why M23 are not attacking Rwanda?
Why should they?
Kagame's answer in scalete
How a country like DRC can be everythime invaded by rebels backed by Rwanda , a country that is nearly 100 times smaller than DRC?The main problem of the DRC it's army is too weak.There are in that army many highly ranked officers who can't write .A few years ago , DRC soldiers were chased in Central African Republic from a UN peacekeeping mission due to incompetence.
Since each nation is too weak to put down bad rebel groups in their own nation and since there are levels of mistrust between them they should form a coalition force with fighters from each nation to go after these rebel; this way working together they are strong enough to deal with groups while limiting the chance of abuse per the coalition keeps them in check... Congo needs to give up every person who took part in genocide; this should've been done a very long time ago... Obviously you can't hold every single person accountable per lack of proving it but the main culprits can be taken out... There are women who are just as guilty as men so making a claim like "mostly women and children fled to drc" is irrelevant... These conflicts and disputes are ridiculous as these nations could be very prosperous working together but instead they are in constant conflict all over pride
So also the children where genocidal? Of course the wars are fought by men, not women, to the larger extent. So his point is valid. Greed from all angles us clearly to blame here. The poor village people are the victims just so you (the reader) can enjoy a cheaper and nice iphone 12, to the benefit of Apple shareholders.
Just think about that as you press buy and sell buttons on your online trading platform
Well put 👍🏾
The so called FDLR in Congo is an alibi used by Kagame’s gang to invade Congo. There are many proven reports that showed that the FDLR question is a pretext used by Rwanda, but it doesn’t pose any threat to Rwanda.
It’s sad to see people who hate their country like cld….. I can’t imagine how he feels when see massive project are boooming in Kigali…. Very misery
This guy shares the same evil ideology as Rusesabagina, I'm an African-Canadian, but support 100 HE Paul Kagame for protecting Rwanda
I don't think he hates his country, I think he just shares his part of truth, which can be threatening to some, and he's allowed to his opinion. Am not Rwandan, don't care about Rwanda, but I appreciate different opinions.
@@Selah100 That's true! I've noticed that these Rwandan pro-Kagame they don't like any one telling the truth about Rwanda other than the official statements.
@@mohameda.i.baranyikwa6551 u hate the truth....and the truth is haunting u. Kagame is evil, Rwanda is running massive projects on the expense of Congolese lives.
Des gens meurent tous les jours des gens meurent en Afrique nous devons faire quelque chose politiciens représentants du gouvernement juste parler juste parler et parler ils ne font rien nous devons faire quelque chose
The DRC problem is not only external,but internal too. DRC is a country that from the old days has a failure to manage internal security.King Leopold butchered lots of people in DRC due to porousness of the people in the Congo.This time around, the DRCis internally porous again to allow external influence have an internal turmoil.Can the DRC become strong internally then external influence will play no room.Are there politicians internally that are beneficiaries to the perpetual instability?
Why, is "The [very] A.U. (AfriCAN_Union)"; not: -Uniting:
Africa; together!!??
M.K.S.
YaHya Nimaga 1:12
thanks Claude, you really understand the cause. so this Why there will not be peace in eastern DRC ,only by force of DRC Gouvernement. President Tshisekedi has already declared.🙄🙄🙄🙄
Congo must invest in better weapons to safe guard it's riches from kagame and M7. Congo should purchase weapon to cripple Kagame's righting vehicles such as tanks and APCs. T Sheked needs potable anti tank missiles and some MANPADS to deal with kagame's choppers. Kagame came from Uganda we know how he used a Russian MANPAD to kill two Africans leaders .The missile blew up Habyalimanas Falcon killing him and the Burundian president and a French pilot. T sheked , sale gold and buy batter weapons.
Unfortunately Kagame and Museveni are backed by US. Unless Congo gets African backing, this is a David Goliath war sadly
That's not the genesis of the problem.
Is no true
Thank you for the objectivity.....Now that the all world knows the truth please help us save innocent lives
Please, don't be fooled. The Ugandan Dictator, Yoweri Museveni and Kagame of Rwanda are both in this together, with their effort to build the Tutsi Dynasty in East Africa!!!!!!!!
Museveni (RWANDESE ) root cause of all these evil he is always supporting terrorist M23 and ADF
@@ugandanindiaspora4647 I totally agree but most of the world seems to turn a blind eye on him!
HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY.
BONNE FETE DE L'INDEPENDANCE USA.
SPLA in.Angola thesenrebel groups never end and au has so far been unable to contain them somehow Africa will continue to suffer underrnthe hands of these rebel groups whose existence is undetermined all.over africa
THE BEST WAY TO SOLVE THE ISSUES IN CONGO IS TO TENDER THE MINERALS MINING BUSINESS TO HIGHIEST BIDDER ( USA RUSSIA OR CHINA). The winner of the tender should provide security in the region and also develop the livelihood of the people of Congo in accordance to their wishes. These tenders to be renewed or re-advertised after such a time agreed upon. And monitoring of the conditions and terms to be strict.
WHEN THE MINERALS BUSINESS IS TENDERED TO THE SUPERPOWERS WITH INTERESTS OF THE CONGOLESE PUT FIRST, WAR S AND CONFLITS THERE WILL END IN TWO DAYS.
WE ALL KNOW THE CONFLITS ARE TO CREATE ROOM FOR PLUNDERING OF RESOURCES.
THE WORLD TRADE ORGANISATION SHOULD GET SOME WORK AND SHOW ITS USE IN SETTING UP THESE DEALS
Are you out of your mind. Africa wanted to be on their own and now calling people who don't have interest of Africa people to come and take control of their minerals.
you know the truth...why put would you blame your 9
HERE IS THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES THAT CAN HELP & WILL [THIS IS REAL STRAIGHT TALK AFRICA]
International/regional/local or NOT These facts MUST BE EXAMINED. If NOT it will be sad to see a small country that has come this far lose everything it has achieved.
FACTS
1. Any neighboring countries escalating war in DRC MUST STOP NOW.
2. If the UK & US are supporting this disturbilization, what would be the reason (lets look at the colonial relations of the founders of KATANGA/DRC if they had any sour relations with the UK or not, if yes, then the issue goes beyond disturbilization for resource extraction.) Like Rwanda sevoring relations with France(implicated in Haitian crisis and all other French country's crises), this is reason to let go the so called Commonwealth as an instrument of regional hegemony and subjugation NOW.
3. DRC should align with Russia & China and boot everyone out for the sake of its people who have surferred for long.
4. African Union should NOT tolerate expansionist policies within its union mbers.
5. Tourism should be discouraged to any country that funds and escalates crisis and corporate mineral burglary in DRC like blood diamonds of Sierra Leone. Only gov. controllled operators must be allowed and the rest must get out NOW.
Let there be peace!
maybe your Rwanda Haha. He is saying Rwanda is using genocide as a card denying what happened here? the wounds of genocide orphans and tears of widowers are running on the cheek while their killers are enjoying life somewhere in Europe, South africa, DRC, Zambia, Malawi, USA and other unknown countries. Genocide ideology is still running in people's hearts. Claude will be the weak president that won't protect us.
no body can do something about it if they govement of kongo don't stop injustices they are doing to The people of banyamulenge and you guys you know very well that banyamulenge are original kongolis why is the government of kongolis doing that the people is the government of kongolis because they are killing they on people of banyamulenge for so long now and the world is not doing anything about that
Claude Gatebuke conveniently left the Banyamulenges out as if they don't exist because his agenda is to topple the Rwandan current government...who is behind him? Who is he working for? Who is funding him?
Lies will never turn to be truth no matter the time repeated. Stop the lies!
Why don't you come save them refugee?
How do you know is homegrown?
M23 are from Rwanda
Mr the hoster,in capacity as a professional journalist do really think that Rwanda can freely or comfortably admit or say "YES" "I'm supporting the M23!"
Do you think Rwanda can say so?????????
Rwanda is actually playing games of Tom and Jerry here.
Congo must attack back immediately!
Indeed Congo should attack/tackle it's own internal issues...and stop blaming and accusing it's neighbors...
We are the Rwandaphones but we are Congolese because of the Berlin conference, that divided the African states where some people who speak kinyarwanda found themselves on the other side ,so if they don't need us give our land back too ,if they don't like we will fight to make it an independent state called North Kivu People's Republic
Do you really know the history of Kivu vis-à-vis of you Rwandan, or you just wanna repeat the lies?
lol u will get tired of copy and paste but no one give a damn about what you saying cause you ignorant and a liar
There also tutsis in Tanzania but they are called Angaza behind your borders in Kagera Region. Why not try to claim that? Even though Angaza have no problem in Tanzania. You have found a weak state DRC that's why you say that,,,,, but we missed you in 2013-2014,,, nearly crushed you,,,,
Yeah more senseless wars and death over trivial matters; instead how about ppl put aside weak pride and ideologies
Why is it only Tutsis that create problems?? When Rwanda was led by Hutus Congo didn't have any issues with Rwanda. Tutsis are back stabers, history has proven it, that's why no one wants to co-exist with your kind. How about you go back to Ethiopia where you all came from?
U started well but afterward i found that u lack the synchrony of your thoughts, u stated FDLR who were formed in DRC and and it was the threat to Rwandan security and I think it was the essence to invade DRC in 1996.. and the point you should focus on is that every country will be concerned of their security while DRC never stopped supporting those rebel groups. For m23 those are kinyarwanda speaking Congolese who are denied their rights and they are killed daily but no one extend those issues but they allegedly call it for Rwanda.. the solution is within DRC to open up and tell their people why they can't maintain their security . I am talking to Claude
EVERYONE NOW CAN SEE YOUR LIES. STOP THE LIES
They need a coalition force to deal with conflicts per each nation is too weak and corrupt to deal with it on their own; a coalition force will put forces in check so no abuse or crimes are committed; after this they need to negotiate commerce and resources use as these nations should not be lacking jobs, food, education, infrastructure
There is no such thing as kinyarwanda speaking congolese.
Kinyarwanda speakers are rwandans not congolese
@@jaybelle1909 The continuation of such violence extremely benefits Rwanda, therefore Rwanda has no interest in coalition talks or action.
If u disagree with me, then explain to me, or anybody willing, please explain how Rwanda is exporting minerals that are not found in Rwanda, that are actually coming from the DRC?
@@solomon2975 were you in Bern 1884 when borders was created?, Kinywarwanda speakers in Congo are Congolese
Congo has more than 100 lebel groups. Are they backed by Rwanda? Why is congo giving way to Uganda and Burundi to persue the lebels who are fighting they nations but denying Rwanda to also go to congo like her neighbours to fight the her own lebels??. Congo has backed and integrated Rwanda lebels in their government then they should not complain that Rwanda is backing m23 if it's true.
This South African guys is such a joke and rather, naive of the DRC ,Rwanda & Uganda dysfunction genocide. What’s a union devoid accountability?
Do you think Rwanda remains a stable country to host UK's deported foreign migrants or the instability threatens migrants lives and thus the deal with Johnson is called off and UK considers another settlement.package for its migrant deportees
Do you think UK refugees are also stupid to go to such an evil country ? Supporting a group of terrorists M23
I understand you are blocking our comments but what's the the point? Why the survivor would support Congo?????
Because Congo is a victim country, and we said: No More!
Who is supporting other label group from Congo? Can you clarify about the source of fire arm that they use ?
Rwanda has no single soldier in DRC, But DRC has crossed border more than times you thing ? do you think DRC has no support for FDLR? and if Rwanda has supported M23 The situation should not be the same?
If you you think Twice, Who stopped DRC to meet the requirements of M23 in Nairobi's meeting
DRC has to take its own strategy
stop violence by calling people names mwabibwamwe
but you know the cause why you still debating.than answer, ask those who give Kagame their money to supply them with minerals which they have ..😗😗😗😗😗
Why are you(Claude)not talking about FDLR(label group) harbouring in congo which committed genocide in Rwanda in 1994 and now have been integrated into congo army to fight Rwanda?
frère merci pour ton débat mais, le problème n'est pas rwandais, jamais ! pas du tout, le congo est l'un de ceux qui détruisent son pays, sinon assurer la paix et la sécurité aux Kinyarwanda Phone qui vivent au congo, car il n'y a pas ceux qui ont choisi d'être congolais, la grande menace en RDC ce sont les FDRL et d'autres groupes de l'armée qui ont été créés par certains généraux des FARDC,
The problem is way back it was started by the partitioning of Africa in Germany in 1800s so when someone states that it began when Kabila came into power.. miss a point
Do you know the history of Kivu? EVERYONE NOW CAN SEE THE LIES OF RWANDAN LEADERS. STOP THE LIES
Africa was just as messed up before colonialism; blaming other ppl for issues Africans cause will not help anyone... these nations need to establish a coalition force to put down bad rebel groups per they are too weak by themselves and working together everyone is put in check; after that they need to negotiate commerce and resource use; there is no reason for any conflict to still be going on, there is no reason why these nations should lack food, jobs, education, infrastructure
Lets stop attaching Uganda and Rwanda to this conflict. This tension is personal between Kagame, Museveni against the DRC. M23 is Kagame and Museveni plus some foreign funders.
So is war going to be the lives of Africans while the rest of the world is going ahead with improvements and developments? 😂
This lady she's hutu family
Viva hutu power
Mr. Vincent, do you believe in what you have heard from the guy reporting for VOA in Kigali? Shame indeed to journalism of such daylight lie!
Gatebuke support FDLR and he has nothing to talk about like reseach
That gut Gatebuke is not survival his father was a killer in 1994 how can he call him a survival
Is he Tutsi or Hutu? or half?
This Gatebuke guy is the wrong person to speak with here. He is a well-known cheerleader of the Rwanda genocidaires and genocide deniers. This is indeed a very detrimental move for VOA's credibility. They need to do their homework before inviting people to speak on these platforms. He doesn't have his facts right. The 1m plus Hutus who fled the war in 1994 were a quarter of the population:) ?? He purposely avoided stating that the genocidaires fled to Congo with all assets and military equipment after killing 1 m Tutsis. They started attacking Rwanda from their newly set up camps in Congo. That's how this whole thing started. You can not talk about the East Congo conflict without acknowledging the role Congo played in the Rwanda conflict that preceded the genocide against the Tutsis in RWANDA and the subsequent cozy relationship that Congo maintained with the genocidaires who settled on its territory and continued to launch attacks on Rwanda. VOA that was an embarrassment, to say the least...
Very true. Thanks
Too much lies in one statement I found it a waste of my time to read the entire thing.- from a proud Congolese
Spamer detected. There is no facts in this comment
@@Selah100 Hahahah That's all you have to say ha!?
@@alwera100 ha! What else were you hoping for me to say? Engage in a debate with you? 😂... Naah, I'll pass
History has proven that you can't co.exist with Tutsis, wherever they are.
Fdrl has some uniform blood wherever whenever
@@johnrutagonya9020 you didn't make any sense whatsoever 😒
@@Selah100 sure there always similarities of all fdrl thinking capacity and articulation of thinking, and this is always make them failers
@@johnrutagonya9020 listen: Bye Felicia! 👋🏾
I’m wondering how Gatebuka defended FDRL as refugees actually when they are organized criminals who have even massacred Tutsi minority in Congo . Gatebuka please rearrange your philosophy , Tutsi minority in EC are listening to you clearly .
EVERYONE NOW CAN SEE YOUR LIES. PLZ DEAR RWANDAN, STOP THE LIES
You said that the FDLR killed and continues to kill Tutsis in the Eastern Congo, didn’t you? What city or town does FDLR operate? What massacre or genocide did they carry out against the Tutsis in the Congo? In which city or village have these massacres or genocides taken place? How many people have been slain? Where is the evidence of the killings? You, Kagamists, always use the FDLR as an excuse for your involvement in the Eastern Congo while knowing you can’t provide evidence for your grandiose assertions. Anyone who disagrees with the Tutsi dominated RPF government is immediately accused of being FDLR. Apparently, scrambling Congolese minerals needs scapegoats. Some media outlets, even some famous individuals who support the RPF tend to imply in their speeches, that the word Hutu means killer. I didn’t see the Tutsis demonstrate when many Banyamulenge were viciously slaughtered in the Kiziba refugee camp by the Rwandan Defense Forces (RDF)? Where was your reactions? We know your games! The Banyamulenge who are killed are fictitious and imaginary beings existing only in the minds of the Inkotanyi.
You are out of your mind brother
That’s Rwandan guy I feel irritated to see him again talk nonsense …… every eye is watching you
You must be an enermy of peace as understanding. He speaks from an informed point of view, but because you have blocked alternative opinion, you cant get what he says
It’s as though all Rwandese here hate the guy due to the Kagame brainwashing. Can you fault them? 😅
Claude dosnt know The really history
"The resources of the Congo could feed the whole continent." Exhibit A of delusional thinking. Why should the Congo use its resources to feed any country other than itself? Particularly given it's desperate state of development. This thought pattern is yalls number one problem. Africa is at best a geographic reference, created by first Romans then "Europeans". This region has zero history of "unity" or "cooperation". The only reason you're following this logic right now is because so many of your countries are undeveloped or barely developing. In the early stages of development countries are far better served to focus on THEMSELVES. Why? Because there aren't enough resources for anything else. I see and hear all these academics talking but I hear very little reality based, history based thinking. Good luck.
There's nothing Gatebuke Cluode could say except those faults I don't see any professional analysis in him because he is one side analyst as he's DRC spokes person.
I concur...Claude is one dimensional: accusing Rwanda for all the atrocities in DRC!...the host should have invited a more balanced representation of all sides!...
@@francoissg Already cluode he's parents are Jenociders and one of his relatives are in DRC FDLR what else balanced do you think he could say?
congolese to love their country then turn to strong self respect and value no soldier from rwanda smoke weed hahahaha
Nfenkes gatebu
WHAT IS ANY EVIDENCE THAT RWANDA IS SUPPORTING M23?
sabath a lot of evidence
UN report says so
Don't tell people the fack news , it's clear that you say what you don't know
What East Africa need urgently is a common Defence Pact and a Millitary High Command. Whilst some NATIONS are destabilizing the REGION, ARABS in particular are pressing to aquire parts of the the SAHEL. This is why the NEED becomes imperative. The young ladies and gentlemen enrolled in the military service of the USA, UK and France could join such a Force. I am confident that East Africa can creat a Force of about 1.5 Million soldiers to guard against our wealth, whereby the demand for every need should be created and supplied within Africa and not from outside, irrespective of whether the demanded items have less Quality.
REMEMBER, THE COMPANIES CAN ONLY GROW OR BE PERFECTED THROUGH R&D.
Africa must start to coordinate joinly, the Production of CAPITAL GOODS resuting from creating Platforms for Private and National Engineering Entities. Such Activities must be backed by, and with National sovereignties. This is imperative.
African Historians may examine and see that this is the right time to embark on such ventures.
Please examine carefully which historical events boosted the Independence Achievements towards Independence in Africa, especially North, West and East.
For the stability of Congo and the whole region is for a one country of East Africa with Congo; Rwanda; Uganda; Burundi; Kenya; Tanzania and S.Sudan. this will not allow those problem of colonial borders and finger pointing one and another
A one sided program disqualify it of being straight talk. Inviting genocide denial like Claude Gatebuke and giving him a stand where his words won't be challenged make me miss the "real" straight talk
Gatebuke says thinks that makes Tutsi sympathisers uncomfortable. If you listen to him carefully you’ll understand he is neutral on this complex issue unlike some Rwandese I hear who always have a one sided narrative
DRC allowed Uganda to enter their country, and later withdrew that consent, hence Uganda must leave the country as the consent has been revoked by DRC. Rwanda and M23 have violated Art 2(4) of the UN Charter, prohibition against the use of force!