I've commented before. But this is, hands down, the BEST representation of these tools on TH-cam. Thank you so much for it! I make tool deal videos and refer back to this on drills I have no experience with and recommend this video to my viewers to learn more about Metabo in general. Great brand with in my experience, great customer service as well. Tools can get pricey though LOL.
@ToolDeals... Metabo's are great, but in my experience more with rotating discs, like circular saws, mitres, plunges & cut -offs... they're like a safari trip that you take, but it needs to be within 100km from your doorstep, they just don't give you that "all-in" experience... 😂 (apologies mate)
"all of these are gonna tear your face off, we're gonna go a little deeper than that." so well said. this is why i choose makita. by far the smoothest & most controlled drills and impacts ive used.
They make really good Tools, impact, jig saw and ratcheting screwdriver were the reasons why I bought 12 V Makita. Also friends of mine have 18V Makita. It's good stuff. Durable and great handling. Hopefully they will offer AntiKickback Screwdrivers soon. Nevertheless since I am german and we get here Metabo for good prices (but it's still on the expensive side) I decided to go for 18 V Metabo.
@@musashimiyamoto8998 not sure which one you tried but mines outlasted 3 Milwaukee and 2 DeWalt drills. The Makita been drilling in mostly steel and some aluminum. The rest never touched steel. As for hikoki we burned through 4 in less than a year at my last shop (aluminum and wood work)
Great test guys!! I run Hilti and Milwaukee. 40 years in my job and the Hilti is the best I've ever used. The Milwaukee does get very hot in a short time and has the issues with the trigger not working sometimes, which is annoying when you are reaching in a tight space, squeeze the trigger and nothing!!! For me the Hilti ticks all the boxes and the after sales service is superb. I've only ever had an issue once when my old assistant dropped my Gen 1 Hilti from a good height. It still worked OK but sounded a bit weird on the run out. After calling my Hilti rep, I had a replacement drill in my hand within half an hour and mine went off for repair. It was back within 24 hours. Again!, fantastic test guys!!! Dave.
@@OZToolTalk Yeah! 40 years guys working here in England. 38 years in my present job as a Maintenance Manager. Naturally I have used many different combi's since they first came out. Starting with a 7.5 volt Hitachi if I remember rightly!! I have had all the top brands in my time but this 22volt Hilti gear is the best I've ever used. I also have a TE1 corded Hilti SDS that was left behind by a contractor. After many phone calls to him and a good few months he told me to keep it or bin it as he had thrashed it pretty hard and it was probably on it's last legs. He had also upgraded to a more up to date Hilti. That was 35 years ago and that TE1 is still a sweet drill to use and holds its own against modern corded SDS drills. There are no rattles or anything and it's really tight and silky smooth!! Cheers guys! Dave.
Pretty good review guys. The temperature results were really interesting, especially as I've seen some torture tests smoking the tools to death. Longevity is the next marker ~ "The only reason I've moved from brand X is I got fed up of replacing it every couple of months" :)
Longevity is incredibly important. Probably more important than any of our categories. BUT we just can't address it properly in a comparison of new tools.
I've been using the dewalt dcd999 nearly every single day for well over a year for absolutely everything from drilling concrete, mixing buckets of cement, drilling steel and much much more and never had a single issue. This is a great piece of kit and when you up the battery to a 9AH it will destroy all the competitors on this list.
@@faderthurfjell I was very surprised to see it so low on the ranking to be honest as it's an absolute monster for the size of it! I have 8 different combi drills that includes hilti, milwaukee, bosch and makita yet they all sit collecting dust as they don't come close to the dewalt "FACT"
I wouldn't say that DeWalt crushed every test. I think it has the strongest low torque though. In other tests it was a good performer, up there with the best. I'm regards to every comparison on TH-cam: that's a stretch. Their flexvolt tools tend to be top dog for power often it's true
So excited to see this come up. Properly comprehensive review. The heat mapping is very interesting, I must confesses to running the odd tool until I could not hold it anymore when stuck, so built idiot proofing of extra cooling is a real bonus for long term reliability.
Good stuff guys! Temperature is my biggest issue on site. Waiting for a drill to cool down or switching out a drill to avoid burning out is a fairly common occurrence when using 5-6 hours a day. Cheers guys.
The Bosch seemed to have excellent temperature management on both the drill (staying very cool) and battery (dissipating heat the best by far). Adding temperature measurements is a great addition to the reviews by the way! Most tests just do power tests, feature descriptions and pricing, but these types of things can be far more important in the long run.
@@macvos according to Bosch they're the only manufacturer that get the 21700 cells delivered without plastic wrapper, that's why their heat management is the best.
@@saiiiiiii1 they also use plastics with better thermal conductivity, have some level of cooling ribs and do a lot to prevent air gaps (that thermally isolate the cells). Removing the wrappers increases thermal conductivity to the surrounding plastic and decreases air gaps (between the cells and their wrappers and between the wrappers and the surrounding plastic).
I have the Metabo BS 18 LTX BL I for a few months. And I absolutely love it. It's a good completion to my 12V srewdriver and impact. Since I do not need the hammering function, it reduces weight and lenght a little bit.
Great Review, personally I’m almost 100% an Makita’s LXT Platform and have the XPH14 (US) which replaced its predecessor the XPH07 which still works great I just sold it to a friend. The XPH14 is an awesome tool that is really only has 2 places that need improvement, it’s not the greatest when using as a Hammer Drill and the lack of Anti-Kickback. A three or four speed transmission would also be nice especially when I’m drilling holes in steel with Bi-Metal Hole Saws because it’s current low speed is still faster than it needs to be for optimal drilling. It is much better than the XPH07 on Kickback (I broke the planetary gears twice on the 07 because it’s that hard). A quick tip for helping your hole saws last when drilling steel. After drilling the pilot hole use electrical tape to close off the holes on the hole saw body, fill the hole saw with crushed or pellet ice and drill the hole with around 500 RPM and moderate pressure. The melting ice keeps the hole saw and the steel cold, flushed away the chips, and provides more than enough lubrication. If you see steam that’s a sign that the ice is nearly depleted and when it stops it’s time to add more ice. With this method I’m able to drill holes faster, the edges are “cleaner”, cleanup is quick and easy which is especially important when drilling holes through Stainless Steel inside restaurant kitchens. Most importantly the actual hole saws last much longer than normal, I usually get several hundred holes before they wear out!
Solid review system. Personally I went with the Milwaukee because the shorter length is a lifesaver in my line of work. But breakdowns like these really show the strengths and more importantly the weak points of these tools
I applaud all their work on this review they really did a lot of work so great job for that but as far as the review system it’s all opinion it is literally the most subjective tool review I’ve ever seen on any channel.
@@steffendetrick9403 'The most subjective ive ever seen' Give me a break mate .... Theres an entire lifelong LIBRARY of crap reviews out there and we are the worst ?? Thats actually laughable (Mike)
Fantastic comparison and effort made to compare such a vast material of tools! I say it all on the time in the comments - you chaps and toolbox buzz are the best tool channels in the world on YT. Thumbs up thanks for the continued reviews and vids. Watching from the UK.
I love Hikoki because of their ergonomics and they have lots of little features that just make all of the better. And they have great customer service, and warranty turn around time frame.
Nice tests The Hikoki extra feature is the AC adapter-dont use it much with the Hammer drill but I have at times while waiting for a battery to charge-works great for their other 36V tools-table saw, mitre saw, SDS max rotary, Full size router, grinder, vacuum etc
Made my reply before realizing u used the 18V - the 36V smashes the 18V by leaps and bounds-im.even more impressed with Hikoki 18V-I have both and have replace my Milwaukee and Makita with the 36V as it's much superior
Hikoki 36V has the RFC anti kickback-its just a much better drill than the 18V so probably a better test to just test each companies best drill in the regular mkt cuz prices are similar
@@OZToolTalk thank U-the triple Hammer 36V and 18V are more similar but most of my other 36V tools are significantly more powerful and run cooler during operation
I have the Bosch 150, awesome bit of kit. The old 110 was good, but would stall on a 32mm auger. The 150 just blows through, no problem. Great vid, nice job.
Bosch gsb 18v-150c is designed for specifically Procore 8.0ah battery. not old 5.0ah batteries. If you use 5.0ah, it doesn't work at full power. like you use flexvolt for Dewalt, it designed for Procore 8.0. Gsb 18v-150c is the top spec drill on the market so far.
Great video and testing. I am a Bosch user, so I bought the gsr 18v - 150C. It will replace my old gsr 18V-110C. This machine is designed to use the newer pro core batteries starting with the 5.5Ah one. I also find the new angle detection system very useful when drilling in thick metal plates. This machine has the best soft torque. Much better than my older 110Nm one.
I think you did Festool dirty by lumping the steel scores together. It already got pinged for its lack of torque on the coach bolt test, so should have got some points back for its high speed. You should have split the scores into: * Timber - high torque (coach bolt) * Timber - medium torque (auger) * Timber - high speed (bugles) * Steel - high torque (step drill) * Steel - medium torque (8mm) * Steel - high speed (3mm) Then people can readjust your scores based on their main uses. Similarly it would have been good to see the masonry speed and comfort scores listed in the final table, but maybe use their overall rating for scoring. There's a few outliers like the Bosch that are fast but uncomfortable but the final table just makes the Bosch look slow when it's one of the fastest.
hi Jimbob. I think you are pretty right about the Festool. I think in hindsight, it got hit twice as you said for lack of torque. I disagree on the scoring table. we have to find a balance between too much and too little detail. I see you like a lot of detail, but others would just tune out and we'd lose their interest. I think tying the Masonry speed and comfort together is perfectly acceptable, because it gives you the real world grade of how much you would like/hate to use that drill for masonry. But to each their own. I appreciate your feedback thanks mate : )
Battery warranty is important to me. I have three 6Ah and two 12Ah Milwaukee batteries. Of those, two of the 6Ah and one of the 12Ah batteries failed (failure to charge) within the two year warranty period. I now have a third 6Ah failure, just outside warranty. My Hilti kit on the other hand has a 20 year warranty period for both the tool and the battery. Five years on from purchase and I have zero issues with my two Hilti batteries. Note I am a home gamer (hello AvE) so these tools are not used on a daily or even weekly basis.
I disagree with not including the makita 40v and the hikoki 36v . The reason they exist is because they would be more efficient and more powerful than their 18v counterparts. I can say that on paper they may look similar but having both the malitas there’s a sizable difference
I have a Metabo three speed and the nearly 4000 rpm makes it almost another tool with grinding accsessories. I have tortured a Milwaukee drill expecting it to fail but it came through brilliantly. These are all great drills.
Probably I will stick with makita 40v line in the further. My lots of mates got 40v last year all happy ass. Good to see European tools jump a lot. Well done.
Amazing vid guys 😊 Probably watched it 2-3 times 😂 I will point out that (I believe) AEG had already released its next Gen (Gen2) brushless drills and tools by this point, model A18FPD0. All metal gearbox and chuck. Would love to see a separate review on that to see how it might have done as opposed to their first gen heavy duties. Cheers lads
Great video guys. Never seen this range of comparison, on an issue which every tradesman has thought something about. Interesting outcome on Festool, which I had someone give me the hard sell on recently. And interesting outcome on Milwaukee, which is probably the most regarded line among pros in my neck of the woods. Got the Dewalt myself and...now I might get that bigger battery you talked about. Cheers!
I have a Makita 481 which is quite old but still going strong. I especially like the quality of the chuck that Makita fit, they have very little run out, are all metal, unlike some, and feel indestructible. Just wish they were still made in Japan.
Drill kick backs are no jokes. Ive had my wrist in plaster for 3 weeks thanks to it. Was using a sds max to drill a 40mm hole for plumbing. Damn thing bit into a rebar, binded, and tore my wrist up. Left a big old bruise on my thigh. 3 weeks outta work. That's a death sentence.
I've been running only Makita's in our company for the past eight years, always upgrading with the new arrivals... yeah, sure you get something here and there that "downs" - won't lose a night's sleep of changing over to another brand... thanks Gents, just a brilliant video... maybe also put PRICING in your spreadie next time round...
Great review, thanks lads. I’ve got a mix of Bosch and metabo tools, the Bosch stuff has lasted forever and the batteries are top draw. The metabo has been hit and miss for reliability and there is a hell of a lot of chat in the metabo chat rooms about the triggers failing after a year. Replacement parts are crazy expensive for what they are, but the CAS battery platform opens up a world of choice across multiple manufacturers.
@@OZToolTalk Bosch tools were solid for years till I got one made in Malaysia. Same with Metabo now they're made in China. There are exceptions to every rule ofcourse, but im not the only one to notice the theme. Chinese labour is also slavery. I'm not into it.
@@jamesbailand4311 Pretty sure every one of these drills is Made in China (except perhaps Dewalt Made in Mexico and Festool maybe eastern europe somewhere). Understand your view but if you are looking for non-Chinese made tools nowadays you are going to have a pretty hard time finidng any.
@@slasher9883 Makita still makes a fair amount of their high end stuff in Japan. I don't know where that specific drill is made though but there is a reasonable chance it is made in Japan.
@@legallyfree2955 yes they still make tools in Japan but I don’t think they make this particular drill in Japan. Maybe the Oztooltalk guys can confirm. Very hard to buy Japanese made Makita’s outside of Japanese market now, most come from China.
Wonder if all the other manufacturer's will start using their own version of DeWalt's new 'Power Stack' batteries. That might change the results around a bit.
Amazing video mates. Havent seen anyone compare this many of the top hammer drills in one wack with such a broad amount of test. Because so many drills are slightly better at different tasks. I know the metabo is top notch but hard to over look the dewalt and makita always up top are great value. Been a dcd99 fan for years. They really havent tried to shrink it but its amazing with the new powerstack battery for a powerful but lighter package.
Can't say for Hikoki multivolt, but makita 40v drill much faster than 18v, even if just looking on specs. It runs cooler, much cooler, it has kickback function, larger batteries(2,5 works fine though). For other features it is study. I used dewalt and metabo drills. Dewalt is awesome, my only complain is weight, otherwise it flew 2-5 meters on conrete surfaces multiple times and still runs good, same goes for makia. Metabo on the other hand was split in two when dropped from 1,5m on the very first day of use. Unfortunately this crack destroyed circuit board beyond repair.
The Hikoki 36V is hands down my favorite drill and is far superior to the 18V and has RFC and the AC adapter option-much more powerful so not sure what they are talking about with Makita and Hikoki 36/40V drill's not being "much better"
So happy to see this treat in my feed today. If Bosch can put the flexiclick head on that I'm sold. Ive been jealous of that sds attachment for a while
Great review/video. Regards any unique features, like the Bosch apparently has a feature that allows you to or helps you know the angle that you are drilling at. Can you tell us anything about this, your thoughts on it and do any other drills have anything unique. I love the compact size of the Makita for example. I also agree that they're not really going to be used for masonry that much, what would the order of the drills be of you took masonry out altogether??
Hi Davey, don't really have anything to add to the enormous video we already created sorry. You can easily reconstruct the results any way you like, that's why we show the whole score card :)
EXACTLY what I buy a drill driver for. Mostly (high speed) metal drilling. Thanks for adding this in boys! Still haven't got my hands on that Metabo 3 speed beast but I look forward to doing so!
If high speed metal drilling is important, maybe you should consider the Metabo BE 18 LTX 6 or Hilti SF BT 22-A cordless drill. These are not a drill/drivers but 1-speed drills only. Metabo BE 18 LTX 6 has a no-load speed of 5000 RPM and Hilti SF BT 22-A 4000 RPM. I don't think any of the other manufactures makes cordless high-speed drills. Metabo BE18 LTX6 Drill comparison th-cam.com/video/m8QFzdC8LKk/w-d-xo.html
@@ITubeTooInc for production work that would be perfect! A true corded replacement. On-site though you'd prefer to carry a combi drill for the broad range of tasks you'd come up against.
Love it guys. Cant wait to see when you do a table saw review (corded or cordless). Seems to be about the only thing missing in your series of great videos!
It's a pity that at bosch you used the normal batteries for the temperature tests and then the Procore ones for intensive use, there is the biggest difference precisely the Procore ones have many benefits in terms at intensive use and cooling to see the Total temperature data a maximum demand.
Very useful review. My purchase for my drill was realy only based on the fact I have festool batteries. Got the hammerdrill your showing new in the UK for £169, boxed with chucks ect no battery or charger. Very interesting review and it would sway my thoughts on other tools.
Happy owner of the two Metabos you've presented here - 3 gear but also with the Quick system. An added benefit of that is all those spiffy attachments you can buy for your Metabo that extend its functionality, you guys should totally try the angle attachment or the torque tripler
I personally got the milwaukee and use it for holes up to 3inch in residential hvac installs. Perfect for me as the over heating or whatnot is not a concern but the power with 6 and 8amps ho batteries is a pleasure. In a perfect world I would've gotten the one key for tuning and anti kickback but it wasn't out just yet when I was needing a drill. Edit: also idk about other drills but I can say the chuck is rly good over the dewalts one from my experience.
what are your all aorund oppinions about AEG tools? im a bit concerned about the company , never saw anyone using these tools at any worksite... only watched review of them, is it worth to invest in them?
Awesome work gentlemen! But men.. some of those have HUMONGOUS batteries. That Hilti, Milwaukee and AEG are barges. It does matter when you have to use them in tight places and considering you usually bet in a battery platform, Makita, Dewalt or Bosch win IMHO
All of the batteries sporting 21700 cells are pretty big. Bosch is no smaller than Milwaukee or Hilti for instance. you can always put a small battery on the tool for the tight space, but at least you know what the drills are CAPABLE of :)
I run Makita 18v and have the new dhp486 and it’s sad to see that it still suffers from the mechanical brake slipping problem that the 481 had and the 40v has. When are they going to sort this out??
Must be the 5th time at least I have watched this .Very very good review . When i saw this I was thinking of getting a drill that would hold up to loads better then my milwaukee .picked makita and realized even as smooth as it is I still went back to the milwaukee because of it's size . i will just let it breath a bit when using huge bits .you were very helpful .do another soon .
Cracking video fellas. Love to see what is new and your thoughts on them. Few thoughts. 1. Makita 40v gives you some bells and whistles. If it pushed above the 3000 rpm it would be my go to every day of the week. 2. The anti kick back i think is an ohs over reach. I am all for safety but i dont think it is neccessary if you use the right tool for the job and give good footing and training. Totally fine with the feature if it can be turned off. 3. My other issue with the older generations has been when you don't get the power you want due to anti kickback or computer protection of the motor. Again, love the videos and equal best tool comparision going around TH-cam.
Regarding 2: that's more a matter of optimising sensitivity. When the bit really gets stuck almost instantly, and the drill tries to keep turning with 150 Nm, no type of footing or training is going to save your wrist if it happens fast enough. Training can limit the risk, but not completely prevent it. It's like ABS with cars: if it kicks in to quickly, it gets annoying, but when working correctly, it will save you in situations where no level of training or experience can save you.
Great comparison. Would it be an upgrade to go to the new Milwalkee compared to my current 8 year old Makita DHP456? I'm looking at a Milwalkee 18v brad nailer and wondering if I should swap the drills over too.
It would be a comparable price to sell my Makita combo and purchase the Milwalkee combo and brad nailer compared to keeping the makita combo and buying the milwalkee nailer and battery/charger
It is a fabulous review, I think the 'take home' message though is 'horses for courses', in other words what are the type of jobs you are going to do? I am looking for my father whose old corded Makita seems to be finally lumbering- has been a fabulous tool down the years. He will be doing a bit of masonry, so disappointing the Hikoki (best masonry) falls down elsewhere, interesting to see the Hilti not amazing on masonry - ? thought they were known for their hammer type work... May've gone for Bosch - the heat score is so impressive but not amazing in masonry. May stick to Makita...... Great review - plenty to think about
cheers Paul. I would remind you that all of these are cracking drills with great performance. So if Masonry is a key attribute, the Hikoki is a great choice. the Multivolt drill (36V version) is stronger again, so could be the best of both worlds.
I thought this was a good review, and I read hundreds of comments waiting for someone to point out the one glaring omission from your evaluation. You did not consider or even discuss the completeness of the "system" for each brand. That is a huge factor in choosing a cordless tool platform, which usually starts with the drill. Some of these tools have almost no companion tools at all, while some have hundreds of system compatible tools. If you evaluate the entire system, then your choice really comes down to Milwaukee, Makita, Dewalt, and maybe Bosch, in that order. Milwaukee's system offers so many different tools that I don't think you can imagine a new tool faster than they can make it. Makita is the only other system that comes close. Dewalt has all the "essentials", but none of the specialty tools that Milwaukee has. Who wants the best drill (by an admittedly small margin), if you have to buy two or more separate battery platforms to get the best sawzall and/or the best circular saw - or a cordless caulking gun or grinder? Thanks for the info, guys, but a Festool or Metabo "system" is just not that desirable to a buyer who needs a lot of diverse compatible tools.
That's because everyone understands that you need to look at individual tool comparisons in order to get the picture of all the systems. And with all the comparisons we've done, should we talk about their respective systems every time?
True, but I haven't seriously considered anything other than briefly DeWalt and Makita. My Makita has performed well for 14 years. I love the feel and control it offers so I lean to Makita, but I won't squander money on their latest multi-tool as I have dozens of OIS cutters in the box and I don't use one for more than a few minutes do I need the lowest vibration, no. However, I am likely to lash on a DGA 463 because of all the safety features like soft start, catch stop and the like. (Grinders can rip ligaments in your hand - I learnt the hard way that anything to reduce the risk is worth it). Makita also make an orbital polisher that seems offer the best of random free and forced rotation - expensive and possibly not the Daddy that a top of the range Rupes might be in some eyes, but close. My neighbour said the only batteries he has left as genuine Makita so don't waste money on third party.
Awesome vid boys. Only thing missing was $$$$. I assume the Hilti + Festool are on the high end, and the AEG would be at the low end. This can make a difference to the end user. Also the batteries prices. At the end of the day you have a Triton, I have a ranger, and old mate has a hilux And we all love and swear by our Ute's amd our tools.
@@OZToolTalk ahh ha, indeed sir indeed I picked the makita in the end was best suited. @#$@ these new drills are crazy powerful!! Wasnt expecting to experiance the same power as say a 340v cabled drill about from 10years ago 😱
@@ukfieldninja8730 (Mike) HELL YES ! I rate this, those power augers matched with most of these drills are GREAT for tube stock and a little bigger. As I'm guessing your running it in 1st gear ? I want one just because 🙏🏻
Why are you running a 5ah battery on the dewalt for runtime tests and using a flex-volt battery for power tests? Seems like it would be more of a fair comparison for all the tools to be run on the same battery for all the testing.
I do not think 18v and 40v Makita are that close to each other, they do have 500rpm difference on high speed, the 40v one having 2600rpm on second gear, and 100rpm difference on first gear. The 40v one also has electronic clutch with about 40 settings, and it has anti-kickback. I am surprised that the Bosch did not just plow through everything, as it boasts very impressive torque ratings.
Awesome review guys. Interesting that Bunnings now sell Metabo (and Hikoki). Clearly trying to make the brand more mainstream and accesible. As a Makita user I am hanging out to see what the 40v line can do before making a (not insubstantial) investment in a new platform.
Same here mate. As being so heavily invested im Makita 18v I'm happy with what I can get with my limited range of Hikoki Multivolt if I need a more powerful tool. Than go for a whole new range where the only backwards compatibility is a freaking charger 🤦♂️🤣
@@cheveresalvi yes real bummer Makita didn't make 40V batteries backwards compatible I've switched many of my tools over the last few years to Hikoki/Metabo HPT(already ran Hitachi nailers for yrs) the 36V line is great and I do use the AC adapter as well on the table saw, full size router, SDS max rotary, mitre saw ,vacuum, grinder when I need longer run times
Guys are champions, best channel out there! So honest and open. Thanks heaps for the vid
thanks heaps Ollie, we appreciate your support :D
I've commented before. But this is, hands down, the BEST representation of these tools on TH-cam. Thank you so much for it! I make tool deal videos and refer back to this on drills I have no experience with and recommend this video to my viewers to learn more about Metabo in general. Great brand with in my experience, great customer service as well. Tools can get pricey though LOL.
thanks so much :) appreciate the support and shares
@ToolDeals... Metabo's are great, but in my experience more with rotating discs, like circular saws, mitres, plunges & cut -offs... they're like a safari trip that you take, but it needs to be within 100km from your doorstep, they just don't give you that "all-in" experience... 😂 (apologies mate)
Fully agree!
"all of these are gonna tear your face off, we're gonna go a little deeper than that." so well said. this is why i choose makita. by far the smoothest & most controlled drills and impacts ive used.
Makita's impact drivers are best (or equal best) in class. The Japanese know how to make an impact tool!
They make really good Tools, impact, jig saw and ratcheting screwdriver were the reasons why I bought 12 V Makita. Also friends of mine have 18V Makita. It's good stuff. Durable and great handling. Hopefully they will offer AntiKickback Screwdrivers soon. Nevertheless since I am german and we get here Metabo for good prices (but it's still on the expensive side) I decided to go for 18 V Metabo.
I’m with you makita does make some amazing tools
There drills seem to be shit , impacts were fine but after trying Makita twice not a big fan thinking about moving to hikoki
@@musashimiyamoto8998 not sure which one you tried but mines outlasted 3 Milwaukee and 2 DeWalt drills. The Makita been drilling in mostly steel and some aluminum. The rest never touched steel.
As for hikoki we burned through 4 in less than a year at my last shop (aluminum and wood work)
Great test guys!! I run Hilti and Milwaukee. 40 years in my job and the Hilti is the best I've ever used. The Milwaukee does get very hot in a short time and has the issues with the trigger not working sometimes, which is annoying when you are reaching in a tight space, squeeze the trigger and nothing!!! For me the Hilti ticks all the boxes and the after sales service is superb. I've only ever had an issue once when my old assistant dropped my Gen 1 Hilti from a good height. It still worked OK but sounded a bit weird on the run out. After calling my Hilti rep, I had a replacement drill in my hand within half an hour and mine went off for repair. It was back within 24 hours. Again!, fantastic test guys!!!
Dave.
Wow Dave, that's great feedback. 40 years!
@@OZToolTalk Yeah! 40 years guys working here in England. 38 years in my present job as a Maintenance Manager. Naturally I have used many different combi's since they first came out. Starting with a 7.5 volt Hitachi if I remember rightly!! I have had all the top brands in my time but this 22volt Hilti gear is the best I've ever used. I also have a TE1 corded Hilti SDS that was left behind by a contractor. After many phone calls to him and a good few months he told me to keep it or bin it as he had thrashed it pretty hard and it was probably on it's last legs. He had also upgraded to a more up to date Hilti. That was 35 years ago and that TE1 is still a sweet drill to use and holds its own against modern corded SDS drills. There are no rattles or anything and it's really tight and silky smooth!!
Cheers guys!
Dave.
Silky work by HILTI !!! That tru !!!
Cracking review - good to see a balanced look rather than what drills the quickest by 0.5 of a second 😂
Cheers pal 💪
Pretty good review guys. The temperature results were really interesting, especially as I've seen some torture tests smoking the tools to death.
Longevity is the next marker ~ "The only reason I've moved from brand X is I got fed up of replacing it every couple of months" :)
Longevity is incredibly important. Probably more important than any of our categories. BUT we just can't address it properly in a comparison of new tools.
I've been using the dewalt dcd999 nearly every single day for well over a year for absolutely everything from drilling concrete, mixing buckets of cement, drilling steel and much much more and never had a single issue.
This is a great piece of kit and when you up the battery to a 9AH it will destroy all the competitors on this list.
cheers hammy, it's a great drill.
Did it not destroy the competition in this test, performance wise?
I’m DeWalt all the way. They seem to win almost every performance test on YT.
@@faderthurfjell I was very surprised to see it so low on the ranking to be honest as it's an absolute monster for the size of it! I have 8 different combi drills that includes hilti, milwaukee, bosch and makita yet they all sit collecting dust as they don't come close to the dewalt "FACT"
@@hammyzgod Me too. DeWalt crushed this test. 👍🏻
I wouldn't say that DeWalt crushed every test. I think it has the strongest low torque though. In other tests it was a good performer, up there with the best.
I'm regards to every comparison on TH-cam: that's a stretch. Their flexvolt tools tend to be top dog for power often it's true
So excited to see this come up. Properly comprehensive review.
The heat mapping is very interesting, I must confesses to running the odd tool until I could not hold it anymore when stuck, so built idiot proofing of extra cooling is a real bonus for long term reliability.
Thanks pal. Yeah we found it very interesting!
Crazy how you got all those newest models... cheers for the test!
Yeah we were Stoked! Cheers
Good stuff guys! Temperature is my biggest issue on site. Waiting for a drill to cool down or switching out a drill to avoid burning out is a fairly common occurrence when using 5-6 hours a day.
Cheers guys.
we hear ya Liam! cheers
The 36V Hikoki/Metabo HPT Hammer drill(not the one they tested) is much more powerful and runs much cooler during continuous use
The Bosch seemed to have excellent temperature management on both the drill (staying very cool) and battery (dissipating heat the best by far). Adding temperature measurements is a great addition to the reviews by the way! Most tests just do power tests, feature descriptions and pricing, but these types of things can be far more important in the long run.
@@macvos according to Bosch they're the only manufacturer that get the 21700 cells delivered without plastic wrapper, that's why their heat management is the best.
@@saiiiiiii1 they also use plastics with better thermal conductivity, have some level of cooling ribs and do a lot to prevent air gaps (that thermally isolate the cells). Removing the wrappers increases thermal conductivity to the surrounding plastic and decreases air gaps (between the cells and their wrappers and between the wrappers and the surrounding plastic).
I have the Metabo BS 18 LTX BL I for a few months. And I absolutely love it. It's a good completion to my 12V srewdriver and impact. Since I do not need the hammering function, it reduces weight and lenght a little bit.
Nice Neo
Top drawer review from some Top Blokes. Ripper form securing that Bosch Drill! Keep em coming fellas
cheers Dan :) appreciate the support.
You boys are the best reviewers on tools on TH-cam. Excellent video guys. Cheers from Ohio
Thanks 👍
I've been waiting for sooo long good on you lads
cheers TS
Great Review, personally I’m almost 100% an Makita’s LXT Platform and have the XPH14 (US) which replaced its predecessor the XPH07 which still works great I just sold it to a friend.
The XPH14 is an awesome tool that is really only has 2 places that need improvement, it’s not the greatest when using as a Hammer Drill and the lack of Anti-Kickback. A three or four speed transmission would also be nice especially when I’m drilling holes in steel with Bi-Metal Hole Saws because it’s current low speed is still faster than it needs to be for optimal drilling.
It is much better than the XPH07 on Kickback (I broke the planetary gears twice on the 07 because it’s that hard).
A quick tip for helping your hole saws last when drilling steel.
After drilling the pilot hole use electrical tape to close off the holes on the hole saw body, fill the hole saw with crushed or pellet ice and drill the hole with around 500 RPM and moderate pressure. The melting ice keeps the hole saw and the steel cold, flushed away the chips, and provides more than enough lubrication. If you see steam that’s a sign that the ice is nearly depleted and when it stops it’s time to add more ice.
With this method I’m able to drill holes faster, the edges are “cleaner”, cleanup is quick and easy which is especially important when drilling holes through Stainless Steel inside restaurant kitchens. Most importantly the actual hole saws last much longer than normal, I usually get several hundred holes before they wear out!
nice thoughts Anderson!
Solid review system. Personally I went with the Milwaukee because the shorter length is a lifesaver in my line of work. But breakdowns like these really show the strengths and more importantly the weak points of these tools
absolutely. if i were working in tight space, the Milwaukee is a very tempting tool!
I applaud all their work on this review they really did a lot of work so great job for that but as far as the review system it’s all opinion it is literally the most subjective tool review I’ve ever seen on any channel.
@@steffendetrick9403 'The most subjective ive ever seen'
Give me a break mate ....
Theres an entire lifelong LIBRARY of crap reviews out there and we are the worst ?? Thats actually laughable (Mike)
@@OZToolTalk dont let the milwaukee fans get to you, its an extremely well done and motivated and explained review
Cheers mate
Fantastic comparison and effort made to compare such a vast material of tools!
I say it all on the time in the comments - you chaps and toolbox buzz are the best tool channels in the world on YT.
Thumbs up thanks for the continued reviews and vids.
Watching from the UK.
Thank you very much! cheers Ryan
I love Hikoki because of their ergonomics and they have lots of little features that just make all of the better. And they have great customer service, and warranty turn around time frame.
nice
Nice tests
The Hikoki extra feature is the AC adapter-dont use it much with the Hammer drill but I have at times while waiting for a battery to charge-works great for their other 36V tools-table saw, mitre saw, SDS max rotary, Full size router, grinder, vacuum etc
Made my reply before realizing u used the 18V - the 36V smashes the 18V by leaps and bounds-im.even more impressed with Hikoki 18V-I have both and have replace my Milwaukee and Makita with the 36V as it's much superior
Hikoki 36V has the RFC anti kickback-its just a much better drill than the 18V so probably a better test to just test each companies best drill in the regular mkt cuz prices are similar
you might be right, we did some testing today and the multivolt 36v drill was definitely superior.
@@OZToolTalk thank U-the triple Hammer 36V and 18V are more similar but most of my other 36V tools are significantly more powerful and run cooler during operation
I have the Bosch 150, awesome bit of kit. The old 110 was good, but would stall on a 32mm auger. The 150 just blows through, no problem.
Great vid, nice job.
yeah absolutely, cheers
Bosch gsb 18v-150c is designed for specifically Procore 8.0ah battery. not old 5.0ah batteries. If you use 5.0ah, it doesn't work at full power. like you use flexvolt for Dewalt, it designed for Procore 8.0. Gsb 18v-150c is the top spec drill on the market so far.
According to the Torque Test TH-cam channel, it has higher torque than the DeWalt dcd999 and Makita 40v.
Great video and testing. I am a Bosch user, so I bought the gsr 18v - 150C. It will replace my old gsr 18V-110C. This machine is designed to use the newer pro core batteries starting with the 5.5Ah one. I also find the new angle detection system very useful when drilling in thick metal plates. This machine has the best soft torque. Much better than my older 110Nm one.
And HILTI SF 10 W -22 !!! Still !!! 🎉
I think you did Festool dirty by lumping the steel scores together. It already got pinged for its lack of torque on the coach bolt test, so should have got some points back for its high speed. You should have split the scores into:
* Timber - high torque (coach bolt)
* Timber - medium torque (auger)
* Timber - high speed (bugles)
* Steel - high torque (step drill)
* Steel - medium torque (8mm)
* Steel - high speed (3mm)
Then people can readjust your scores based on their main uses.
Similarly it would have been good to see the masonry speed and comfort scores listed in the final table, but maybe use their overall rating for scoring. There's a few outliers like the Bosch that are fast but uncomfortable but the final table just makes the Bosch look slow when it's one of the fastest.
hi Jimbob. I think you are pretty right about the Festool. I think in hindsight, it got hit twice as you said for lack of torque.
I disagree on the scoring table. we have to find a balance between too much and too little detail. I see you like a lot of detail, but others would just tune out and we'd lose their interest.
I think tying the Masonry speed and comfort together is perfectly acceptable, because it gives you the real world grade of how much you would like/hate to use that drill for masonry. But to each their own. I appreciate your feedback thanks mate : )
Battery warranty is important to me.
I have three 6Ah and two 12Ah Milwaukee batteries. Of those, two of the 6Ah and one of the 12Ah batteries failed (failure to charge) within the two year warranty period.
I now have a third 6Ah failure, just outside warranty.
My Hilti kit on the other hand has a 20 year warranty period for both the tool and the battery. Five years on from purchase and I have zero issues with my two Hilti batteries.
Note I am a home gamer (hello AvE) so these tools are not used on a daily or even weekly basis.
cheers Brad, thanks for putting in your 2c :)
Please, tasting HILTI SF 10 W - 22 !!!
Makita for the win.
I disagree with not including the makita 40v and the hikoki 36v . The reason they exist is because they would be more efficient and more powerful than their 18v counterparts. I can say that on paper they may look similar but having both the malitas there’s a sizable difference
We're about to do a Makita 40V vs 18V for that reason. So many people were upset it wasn't in.
I have a Metabo three speed and the nearly 4000 rpm makes it almost another tool with grinding accsessories. I have tortured a Milwaukee drill expecting it to fail but it came through brilliantly. These are all great drills.
for sure
Probably I will stick with makita 40v line in the further. My lots of mates got 40v last year all happy ass. Good to see European tools jump a lot. Well done.
nice William
NICE! Glad you're back!
cheers Rich. more to come!
That new Bosch looks like a beast compared to their other models. Can't wait till it's available in U. S.
Yeah it's great to see Bosch hanging with the top dogs!
Amazing vid guys 😊
Probably watched it 2-3 times 😂
I will point out that (I believe) AEG had already released its next Gen (Gen2) brushless drills and tools by this point, model A18FPD0. All metal gearbox and chuck. Would love to see a separate review on that to see how it might have done as opposed to their first gen heavy duties.
Cheers lads
I don't think so. AEG provided the drill for the comparison, but maybe you're right.
Thanks for the support
Great video guys. Never seen this range of comparison, on an issue which every tradesman has thought something about.
Interesting outcome on Festool, which I had someone give me the hard sell on recently. And interesting outcome on Milwaukee, which is probably the most regarded line among pros in my neck of the woods. Got the Dewalt myself and...now I might get that bigger battery you talked about. Cheers!
cheers Phillip, thanks for commenting.
I have a Makita 481 which is quite old but still going strong. I especially like the quality of the chuck that Makita fit, they have very little run out, are all metal, unlike some, and feel indestructible. Just wish they were still made in Japan.
solid drills!
Drill kick backs are no jokes. Ive had my wrist in plaster for 3 weeks thanks to it. Was using a sds max to drill a 40mm hole for plumbing.
Damn thing bit into a rebar, binded, and tore my wrist up. Left a big old bruise on my thigh.
3 weeks outta work. That's a death sentence.
that's my thinking too Jack. sorry to hear of your injury. Dwain
Hmm you know better
3 weeks outta work is a death sentence? Must be American
I've been running only Makita's in our company for the past eight years, always upgrading with the new arrivals... yeah, sure you get something here and there that "downs" - won't lose a night's sleep of changing over to another brand... thanks Gents, just a brilliant video... maybe also put PRICING in your spreadie next time round...
Cheers 💪
Great review, thanks lads. I’ve got a mix of Bosch and metabo tools, the Bosch stuff has lasted forever and the batteries are top draw. The metabo has been hit and miss for reliability and there is a hell of a lot of chat in the metabo chat rooms about the triggers failing after a year. Replacement parts are crazy expensive for what they are, but the CAS battery platform opens up a world of choice across multiple manufacturers.
Thanks for sharing
Why do the makita drill chucks not lock?
Thanks guys. Good explanation that we don’t usually get here in the states. Especially for the Metabo and Bosch! 😃
Our pleasure!
You should include country of manufacture to.
It makes a big difference with longevity.
I don't agree that it's black and white like that, but maybe I'll put it into the spec sheet next time.
@@OZToolTalk Bosch tools were solid for years till I got one made in Malaysia.
Same with Metabo now they're made in China.
There are exceptions to every rule ofcourse, but im not the only one to notice the theme.
Chinese labour is also slavery. I'm not into it.
@@jamesbailand4311 Pretty sure every one of these drills is Made in China (except perhaps Dewalt Made in Mexico and Festool maybe eastern europe somewhere). Understand your view but if you are looking for non-Chinese made tools nowadays you are going to have a pretty hard time finidng any.
@@slasher9883 Makita still makes a fair amount of their high end stuff in Japan. I don't know where that specific drill is made though but there is a reasonable chance it is made in Japan.
@@legallyfree2955 yes they still make tools in Japan but I don’t think they make this particular drill in Japan. Maybe the Oztooltalk guys can confirm. Very hard to buy Japanese made Makita’s outside of Japanese market now, most come from China.
the Hikoki actually has anti kick back protection only in speed 2 and it motion actuated
only in Speed 2? That's odd.
Wonder if all the other manufacturer's will start using their own version of DeWalt's new 'Power Stack' batteries. That might change the results around a bit.
interesting times ahead.
Amazing video mates. Havent seen anyone compare this many of the top hammer drills in one wack with such a broad amount of test. Because so many drills are slightly better at different tasks. I know the metabo is top notch but hard to over look the dewalt and makita always up top are great value. Been a dcd99 fan for years. They really havent tried to shrink it but its amazing with the new powerstack battery for a powerful but lighter package.
cheers Grey, great thoughts :)
Can't say for Hikoki multivolt, but makita 40v drill much faster than 18v, even if just looking on specs. It runs cooler, much cooler, it has kickback function, larger batteries(2,5 works fine though).
For other features it is study. I used dewalt and metabo drills. Dewalt is awesome, my only complain is weight, otherwise it flew 2-5 meters on conrete surfaces multiple times and still runs good, same goes for makia. Metabo on the other hand was split in two when dropped from 1,5m on the very first day of use. Unfortunately this crack destroyed circuit board beyond repair.
thanks for the feedback Stepan, great info :)
The Hikoki 36V is hands down my favorite drill and is far superior to the 18V and has RFC and the AC adapter option-much more powerful so not sure what they are talking about with Makita and Hikoki 36/40V drill's not being "much better"
So happy to see this treat in my feed today. If Bosch can put the flexiclick head on that I'm sold. Ive been jealous of that sds attachment for a while
cheers mark!
METABO
Great review/video. Regards any unique features, like the Bosch apparently has a feature that allows you to or helps you know the angle that you are drilling at. Can you tell us anything about this, your thoughts on it and do any other drills have anything unique. I love the compact size of the Makita for example.
I also agree that they're not really going to be used for masonry that much, what would the order of the drills be of you took masonry out altogether??
Hi Davey, don't really have anything to add to the enormous video we already created sorry. You can easily reconstruct the results any way you like, that's why we show the whole score card :)
Brilliant test you put a lot of time and effort into making the video the Metabo looks a great bit of kit
Glad you liked it thanks Mark
EXACTLY what I buy a drill driver for. Mostly (high speed) metal drilling. Thanks for adding this in boys!
Still haven't got my hands on that Metabo 3 speed beast but I look forward to doing so!
Nice one 👍 Cheers
If high speed metal drilling is important, maybe you should consider the Metabo BE 18 LTX 6 or Hilti SF BT 22-A cordless drill.
These are not a drill/drivers but 1-speed drills only. Metabo BE 18 LTX 6 has a no-load speed of 5000 RPM and Hilti SF BT 22-A 4000 RPM.
I don't think any of the other manufactures makes cordless high-speed drills.
Metabo BE18 LTX6 Drill comparison th-cam.com/video/m8QFzdC8LKk/w-d-xo.html
Festool have a 4 speed drill, I think it's max RPM is 3600(?)
@@ITubeTooInc for production work that would be perfect! A true corded replacement.
On-site though you'd prefer to carry a combi drill for the broad range of tasks you'd come up against.
great review gentlemen....I appreciate your hard work and explanation on how to determine
Thanks for watching! appreciate your support :)
What a better brand Ryobi or Rockwell for a Hammer Drill?
Thanks guys. That was really useful.
Very enjoyable lads, cheers from Scotland.
Our pleasure!
Great work as always guys.
Thanks
Bosch angle detection system is very handy for drilling 90 °
This was not the aeg fusion line ?
yep sure was
Can't quite understand the Old English. What were the top 5?
pretty sure you can read the tables of results we posted though :P
Love it guys. Cant wait to see when you do a table saw review (corded or cordless). Seems to be about the only thing missing in your series of great videos!
cheers Matt, we hope to do a table saw comparison this year :)
It's a pity that at bosch you used the normal batteries for the temperature tests and then the Procore ones for intensive use, there is the biggest difference precisely the Procore ones have many benefits in terms at intensive use and cooling to see the Total temperature data a maximum demand.
I've just got the Hikoki drill for €75 and I think it's a steal. Only the body brand new, of course.
Could you add Flex Turbo into the mix in the next one?
not available in Aus sorry
This may seem like a dumb question and I think I may already know the answer but, why no Ryobi?
Because it's not a trade brand, with a trade warranty 👍
Gents, as ever a top review. Many thanks for your time and effort. You're top men :-))
thanks mate :)
Very useful review. My purchase for my drill was realy only based on the fact I have festool batteries. Got the hammerdrill your showing new in the UK for £169, boxed with chucks ect no battery or charger. Very interesting review and it would sway my thoughts on other tools.
Would love to see some inclusion of warranty and ease of warranty claims, and customer service, as well as cost of spare batteries.
warranty is in the spec sheet. we can't talk to warranty claims etc
Happy owner of the two Metabos you've presented here - 3 gear but also with the Quick system. An added benefit of that is all those spiffy attachments you can buy for your Metabo that extend its functionality, you guys should totally try the angle attachment or the torque tripler
yeah i'd actually love to do that.
THE best review by far!
I personally got the milwaukee and use it for holes up to 3inch in residential hvac installs. Perfect for me as the over heating or whatnot is not a concern but the power with 6 and 8amps ho batteries is a pleasure. In a perfect world I would've gotten the one key for tuning and anti kickback but it wasn't out just yet when I was needing a drill.
Edit: also idk about other drills but I can say the chuck is rly good over the dewalts one from my experience.
cheers for the feedback Pascal. we've loved the Milwaukee drill ourselves.
TOTAL TOOL, your web sells in Australia only or serves overseas shipping too. Thanks
Really good review guys thank you👍🏽 from New York
Thanks for watching!
what are your all aorund oppinions about AEG tools? im a bit concerned about the company , never saw anyone using these tools at any worksite... only watched review of them, is it worth to invest in them?
they make some good tools, but we haven't reviewed anywhere near their whole lineup of course.
where is Fein??
no product in this category.
Awesome work gentlemen! But men.. some of those have HUMONGOUS batteries. That Hilti, Milwaukee and AEG are barges. It does matter when you have to use them in tight places and considering you usually bet in a battery platform, Makita, Dewalt or Bosch win IMHO
All of the batteries sporting 21700 cells are pretty big. Bosch is no smaller than Milwaukee or Hilti for instance.
you can always put a small battery on the tool for the tight space, but at least you know what the drills are CAPABLE of :)
I have both the 18v makita in this vid and the 40v max makita drill. They are nowhere near the same drill.
cheers. we've heard that from a few people now. Thinking we'll do a 18V v 40V head-to-head soon :)
Please do Makita and Hikoki
Thanks
Is flex 24v sold in Australia? Would of loved to see increased. But I'm excited to get my hands on that bosch!
no its not.
Finally! Lads review hilti and festool! Looking forward to this
Hope you enjoyed it!
What model is that dewalt
DCD999
I run Makita 18v and have the new dhp486 and it’s sad to see that it still suffers from the mechanical brake slipping problem that the 481 had and the 40v has. When are they going to sort this out??
ah we didn't notice that. do you know of any videos out there that show this issue?
Excellent video guys! Thank you
Our pleasure!
Great review which somehow didn't show up on my feed the last months🤔👍
Welcome back!
Must be the 5th time at least I have watched this .Very very good review . When i saw this I was thinking of getting a drill that would hold up to loads better then my milwaukee .picked makita and realized even as smooth as it is I still went back to the milwaukee because of it's size . i will just let it breath a bit when using huge bits .you were very helpful .do another soon .
thanks Joseph, great feedback!
Awesome stuff lads. Yeah my Makita struggles on the old concrete, glad to see it's not just mine... I'll trade that for the comfort and an SDS ;)
Great review guys
Thank you
Our pleasure!
Love the reviews guys
thanks mate
Where is Parkside Performance?
Cracking video fellas. Love to see what is new and your thoughts on them. Few thoughts.
1. Makita 40v gives you some bells and whistles. If it pushed above the 3000 rpm it would be my go to every day of the week.
2. The anti kick back i think is an ohs over reach. I am all for safety but i dont think it is neccessary if you use the right tool for the job and give good footing and training. Totally fine with the feature if it can be turned off.
3. My other issue with the older generations has been when you don't get the power you want due to anti kickback or computer protection of the motor.
Again, love the videos and equal best tool comparision going around TH-cam.
thanks Phil, appreciate your thoughts :)
Regarding 2: that's more a matter of optimising sensitivity. When the bit really gets stuck almost instantly, and the drill tries to keep turning with 150 Nm, no type of footing or training is going to save your wrist if it happens fast enough. Training can limit the risk, but not completely prevent it. It's like ABS with cars: if it kicks in to quickly, it gets annoying, but when working correctly, it will save you in situations where no level of training or experience can save you.
Great comparison. Would it be an upgrade to go to the new Milwalkee compared to my current 8 year old Makita DHP456? I'm looking at a Milwalkee 18v brad nailer and wondering if I should swap the drills over too.
It would be a comparable price to sell my Makita combo and purchase the Milwalkee combo and brad nailer compared to keeping the makita combo and buying the milwalkee nailer and battery/charger
any of these drills would be a substantial upgrade.
@@OZToolTalk cheers!
I found Makita DHP486Z for 155 Euros(~165 USD) on Black Friday - bought one for my father, it's a steal.
Awesome comparison!
Glad you enjoyed it
It is a fabulous review, I think the 'take home' message though is 'horses for courses', in other words what are the type of jobs you are going to do? I am looking for my father whose old corded Makita seems to be finally lumbering- has been a fabulous tool down the years. He will be doing a bit of masonry, so disappointing the Hikoki (best masonry) falls down elsewhere, interesting to see the Hilti not amazing on masonry - ? thought they were known for their hammer type work...
May've gone for Bosch - the heat score is so impressive but not amazing in masonry. May stick to Makita......
Great review - plenty to think about
cheers Paul. I would remind you that all of these are cracking drills with great performance. So if Masonry is a key attribute, the Hikoki is a great choice. the Multivolt drill (36V version) is stronger again, so could be the best of both worlds.
Thank you just was thinking about what to gift my dad for his birthday😁
I thought this was a good review, and I read hundreds of comments waiting for someone to point out the one glaring omission from your evaluation. You did not consider or even discuss the completeness of the "system" for each brand. That is a huge factor in choosing a cordless tool platform, which usually starts with the drill.
Some of these tools have almost no companion tools at all, while some have hundreds of system compatible tools. If you evaluate the entire system, then your choice really comes down to Milwaukee, Makita, Dewalt, and maybe Bosch, in that order. Milwaukee's system offers so many different tools that I don't think you can imagine a new tool faster than they can make it. Makita is the only other system that comes close. Dewalt has all the "essentials", but none of the specialty tools that Milwaukee has.
Who wants the best drill (by an admittedly small margin), if you have to buy two or more separate battery platforms to get the best sawzall and/or the best circular saw - or a cordless caulking gun or grinder? Thanks for the info, guys, but a Festool or Metabo "system" is just not that desirable to a buyer who needs a lot of diverse compatible tools.
That's because everyone understands that you need to look at individual tool comparisons in order to get the picture of all the systems.
And with all the comparisons we've done, should we talk about their respective systems every time?
True, but I haven't seriously considered anything other than briefly DeWalt and Makita. My Makita has performed well for 14 years. I love the feel and control it offers so I lean to Makita, but I won't squander money on their latest multi-tool as I have dozens of OIS cutters in the box and I don't use one for more than a few minutes do I need the lowest vibration, no. However, I am likely to lash on a DGA 463 because of all the safety features like soft start, catch stop and the like. (Grinders can rip ligaments in your hand - I learnt the hard way that anything to reduce the risk is worth it). Makita also make an orbital polisher that seems offer the best of random free and forced rotation - expensive and possibly not the Daddy that a top of the range Rupes might be in some eyes, but close. My neighbour said the only batteries he has left as genuine Makita so don't waste money on third party.
Fine where?
Awesome vid boys. Only thing missing was $$$$. I assume the Hilti + Festool are on the high end, and the AEG would be at the low end. This can make a difference to the end user. Also the batteries prices. At the end of the day you have a Triton, I have a ranger, and old mate has a hilux
And we all love and swear by our Ute's amd our tools.
We included prices, nearer the end of the video.
Running a Power Planter Auger into rocky ground to dig holes for planting.
Which would you recommend for cutting into dirt?
I wouldn't recommend a drill, I'd recommend an auger ;)
@@OZToolTalk ahh ha, indeed sir indeed
I picked the makita in the end was best suited. @#$@ these new drills are crazy powerful!! Wasnt expecting to experiance the same power as say a 340v cabled drill about from 10years ago 😱
@@ukfieldninja8730 (Mike)
HELL YES ! I rate this, those power augers matched with most of these drills are GREAT for tube stock and a little bigger.
As I'm guessing your running it in 1st gear ?
I want one just because 🙏🏻
I switched to Hilti years ago just for ATC features
thanks David. I knew you were out there!
You guys are really helpful thank you guys ❤❤
Happy to help!
@@OZToolTalk do you guys like AEG??
Why are you running a 5ah battery on the dewalt for runtime tests and using a flex-volt battery for power tests? Seems like it would be more of a fair comparison for all the tools to be run on the same battery for all the testing.
We explained that decision. Did you watch it all?
Great stuff! I would have liked to see Flex in this competition though. I think Flex would have competed well.
Cheers. We don't have it in Aus
I do not think 18v and 40v Makita are that close to each other, they do have 500rpm difference on high speed, the 40v one having 2600rpm on second gear, and 100rpm difference on first gear. The 40v one also has electronic clutch with about 40 settings, and it has anti-kickback. I am surprised that the Bosch did not just plow through everything, as it boasts very impressive torque ratings.
Fair points, but it is very close in torque. We opted to stick to 18v drills
The 40v smashes the 18v I can tell you right now
Ime very impressed with the 40v it is far better than on paper and has great features
Also has higher BPM...
Awesome review guys. Interesting that Bunnings now sell Metabo (and Hikoki). Clearly trying to make the brand more mainstream and accesible. As a Makita user I am hanging out to see what the 40v line can do before making a (not insubstantial) investment in a new platform.
cheers slasher. interesting times indeed!
Same here mate. As being so heavily invested im Makita 18v I'm happy with what I can get with my limited range of Hikoki Multivolt if I need a more powerful tool.
Than go for a whole new range where the only backwards compatibility is a freaking charger 🤦♂️🤣
@@cheveresalvi yes real bummer Makita didn't make 40V batteries backwards compatible
I've switched many of my tools over the last few years to Hikoki/Metabo HPT(already ran Hitachi nailers for yrs) the 36V line is great and I do use the AC adapter as well on the table saw, full size router, SDS max rotary, mitre saw ,vacuum, grinder when I need longer run times
You should have put the flex24v turbo drill ive never seen it on your channel
That's because they aren't in Aus 👍