Marvel Nemesis: Rise of the Imperfects is one of my favourite childhood PS2 games. We had tons of fun with my friend with the VS mode (Daily Bugle rooftop arena could be entirely destroyed). The game also has great music.
Holy shit I thought I'd be the only one I just typed a big paragraph on my own comment on how it's my favourite fighting game and how the bugle is my favourite map cause you can destroy the letters or if you're a strong character like venom you can fully pick them up and throw them at people haha. No idea why it was on this list, his main point was cause it was random characters he hadn't heard of but there's an entire marvel comic series called rise of the imperfects so if he actually read the book it was based on he'd know who the characters are they're pretty cool characters in my opinion. Plus yeah the victory music gets stuck in my head whenever I hear it.
@@seansmith877 nope, you're not alone. Played the hell out of that game with my friends, brothers and cousins, shi was lit. I'm wondering why it's on this list too
I saw that and immediately got stoked, I LOVE games with environmental destruction like that, it often looks ridiculous to have a game pit two basically demi-god level heroes against one another and the environment shows no sign of their having ever been a clash. The game looks sick, we need more like it with today's tech. We need more games with a focus on fun tech to begin with.
Man we used to get so pissy at each other for playing spiderman in that game cause his combos were nutty as hell. Loved Marvel Nemesis wish they'd remake it
So glad I'm not the only one! Lots of childhood memories on that game. Sure I didn't know who Johnny Ohm was but he and his name were the coolest thing to my dumb kid brain 😅
I Loved Marvel Nemesis. Your criticisms are completely valid, but I always wanted a sequel with less clunky controls, more characters and a better story. My brother and I played this game whenever we got the chance, I honestly loved it
I rarely disagree with you guys, but Marvel Nemesis: Rise of the Imperfects was such a fun and challenging game. When you play through the game, you get introductions and stories for all the Imperfects and most, if not all, of them are interesting and well thought-out. A decent fighting game with some creative mechanics (Brigade getting stunned by his multiple personalities if you drain his energy) and intriguing, gritty story.
It's rather ironic. They're quite right that it makes no sense to just use up almost half of the roster with unknown characters, instead of characters the fans care about, but the imperfects are part of my childhood now, so they're actually characters I presently care about.
I liked it. Also if proper research was done the reason there were unknown characters in the game was because Marvel and EA were making a comic about the Imperfects which were released before the game and had the game been more successful they would have gone forward into the comics. So it was a cool idea but the game didn't do well so the imperfect comics were scrapped
That dwarf concept is not as crazy considering alice madness exist and was kind of successful. Specially with some obsidian top tier writing. Im actually sad it doesn't exist.
It's a bit dumber when you consider the original tales. Many fairy tales weren't exactly rainbows and sunshine to begin with. And what we do learn about it makes it sound like they went the stupidest possible way about it and didn't realise there's versions other than Disney's. American McGee's Alice and the sequel work because the characters are still in line with their original characterisation, just taken to extremes.
@@Llortnerof which was also the intend with dwarf, as mentioned to opening cutscene is about one of the dwarfs experiencing extreme trauma which is more inline with the original dark tale
@@Janfey Apparently they even wanna do more fairy tales which is kinda dope alsoooo to add another game that did the concept well the Wolf Among Us is a pretty dark take of what a modern world with these fairy tale characters would look like so dark fairy tale games really aren't that crazy of an idea lol.
Gotham City Imposters was decent though. It's taking strays for no reason. The movement in that game felt very clean and well put together, especially for 2012. The gun play was pretty okay for the era, nothing top of it's class but it was still fun. Plus it's not like WB scrapped all the beloved Batman games for it. Gotham City Imposters came out in 2012, while Batman: Arkham Origins came out a year later, with development starting shortly after Batman: Arkham City in 2011. Gotham City Imposters was an idea that did not suck and I'm sad that it got referenced to in this video. Even if it didn't directly make the list.
I loved it. A bunch of people playing wannabe superheroes and supervillans. The makeshift cosplay costumes and magruber version of powers and gadgets was endearing and fun. Maybe it's just because I was actually good, but I have very fond memories of it.
I had it. A relic of its time and really dull and middle of the pack when compared to other stuff from the day, but fun was had by me. I was in my early 20s.
I actually think the idea of a dark snow white/seven dwarves based on Grimm's brothers (not Disney) as a mix of, say, a plagues tale, and the guardians of the galaxy game, would be sick.
I liked the horror aspect of Doom 3. I played it again recently and......it is a slog through obsolete mechanics. I kinda hope to see a more modern take on that idea. Edit: the original stories like Cinderella and others are pretty dark themselves. Snow White is no exception. 2nd Edit: the Metroid Federation Force picture gave me horrible flashbacks to Gundam SD. I screamed, tossed my phone across the room, and cried into my pillow.
yeah I liked Doom 3 better way better than the new games even though the new games were more like the old ones. so I would definitely like to see a new spinoff that is similar along with a game like Quake 4.
As others have said, I loved Marvel Nemesis as a kid. I had it on Gamecube, and a couple years ago I picked it up on PS2. It's certainly a weird one, but it holds a special place in my young gamer memories.
Marvel Nemesis was one of my favorite games as a kid , I have countless memories of doing explosive barrel only fights with my cousin! Or being the “heavy” character and ragdolling other small characters! It was a blast
Marvel Nemesis was kind of a good idea that was poorly executed. There is nothing wrong about putting in new characters the issue is that they did too many new characters. I do honestly think it would have worked if it was more like a 75%-25% split of known Marvel characters and new characters respectively. The idea of a new group popping up and causing troubles is a good idea and literally standard in comics but again the issue is they had too many new characters. I think there was a total of 20 characters: 10 Marvel and 10 new. I did like most of the new characters so if they did it like 14-6 for 20 characters it would have been better received.
Another problem was how unfinished the game was. I liked it as a kid, but if you go back now and replay it, you can see the environments get less and less detailed until the ending levels are just you jumping on blocks. Not to mention the visual effects. But we all remember that part where Spiderman says "you know what we call that? we call that a web-slinging, ass kicking".
Suddenly, I remember this X-Men game, where you have your choice of playing as 3 all-new characters and none of the X-Men everyone else knows and loves.
I actually would've been really excited about Dwarves. That sounds like a really good idea to me. A twist on Snow White similar to American McGee's Alice
came here to say exactly this lol. i feel like way too many people forget that Snow White and the Seven Dwarves isn't a Disney original, and that its actual story is jus a lil darker than what Disney put out there (tbh i havent read the original, but i do know that it's v e r y different from the version Disney did)
That Dwarves game actually sounds like a great concept, though i think the execution would have to be done perfectly. It would really have to show that it is a true break from the Disney version. Like make it a Souls-like or some other grimdark type game. Also, the whole Dopey thing could make sense story wise, you could even have some sympathy type cutscene with like a “hodor”/“hold the door” connotation.
I think there is a fan theory that Dopey's mental regression and being mute comes from being a victim of abuse or something. I never looked at the game, but I think I like where they were coming from.
@@thanhuy2583 Listen He does say when it's not his experience Even in this video No worries I respect what you think 🤌 And it's not impossible to be fan of many games And it's not like he is scaming peoples many people like me watch gameranx video to just chill and have a normal view on games of different types Chill bro🙌 Peace
Shadowrun was by far my favorite online game in the 360 era. Put TONS of hours into that game and wish they would come out with a remake…with a different IP of course 😊
reminds me of a quote in an old gaming magazine: the SNES game was quite good, except for the Hacking minigames, which were terribly dull. the Playstation game had a VERY fun Hacking minigame, but the REST of the game sucked. IF someone could combine the best of both, it would be one of the best games EVER.
Shadowrun was ahead of its time being only MP no story full price was still worth it. If they would make an enhanced Version or free to play it would do so good even add new maps or skins
I personally and the people I played Shadowrun on the 360 with had a blast with the game. It was a different take but the mechanics were unique when you have to not just watch your back or your front but enemies could phase through surfaces. The weapon mechanics were great and the trophies were hilarious. It was a good time.
Yeah it was a great game and at the time I had no idea it was a pre-existing IP. Fast forward to when Shadow run returns comes out and I was genuinely angry that they didn't make it an amazing fps like before.
As a shooter, I found it pretty enjoyable actually. I was dissapointed it wasn't an RPG since I'd been playing SR since second ed, but I was hoping enough people would enjoy it and want to find out more about the setting.
I actually really liked Shadow run and remember being incredibly excited when the game was released. I wished they had indeed made it its own IP so it could stand by itself because it was an interesting take on the FPS genre
Shadow run really was one of my fave “B tier” 360 games. It was never going to challenge COD, halo or gears, but it’s a worthy contender for best of the rest.
I'm a huge Shadowrun fan and of course never went anywhere near that game but I heard from people who are not invested in the IP that it's not a bad game, and actually kinda fun.
What infuriates me is after Microsoft acquired Obsidian, there has been no announcement for a new Shadowrun game, after Cyberpunk 2077 there has been no announcement. After they acquired Zenimax/Bethesda, THERE HAS BEEN NO ANNOUNCEMENT! Shadowrun is Cyberpunk with Magic. Add some other 'Runners to team up with, a playerbase to upgrade and I would pre-order this game in a heartbeat, and I am a Sony gamer! I have been PRAYING that the company that OWNS FASA to make this announcement, the company that has some of the better Western RPG studios out there, to PLEASE make this game.
@@arctic.wizardBefore I got into the IP it certainly was. The movement options with blinking through walls and the interesting essence system with tech augmentations were really cool concepts. The gunplay was pretty satisfying and working together with teammates of different playstyles was really fun. Unfortunately the economy for either team could snowball wildly, some of the maps were practically unplayable and the game was also one of the first crossplatform games (with all of those growing pains). It was a flawed fun game while it lasted and it would be cool to see the concept of it being repurposed into another IP.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe there was a mod where your fl was literally ducktaped around your gun, it was hilarious. I think only the assault rifle, so you still had to switch to it to see. But at least you can see _and_ shoot.
I believe that he's too young to remember how hype everybody was for Doom 3 when it released because I don't know WTF he believes that nobody liked Doom 3. It was revolutionary for the time.
I loved that 2007 Shadowrun lol it was pretty much the counter strike we didn't have on consoles. But looking at it now it's hard not to see that it kinda influenced hero shooters later on.
I second EVERYTHING you said about IPs. I am always skeptical of someone saying they're going to take the IP "in a new direction". Because, unless it's a mascot like Sonic or Pikachu, it begs the question: Why not just make it an original IP? And I suspect the answer, 99% of the time, is "Because we have no faith in this product and don't expect you to buy it otherwise." It doesn't necessarily mean the game will be bad (for example: Resident Evil 7), but it does betray, to me, a severe lack of faith, either in their product or in their audience. Who they should know by now are skeptical either way and will wait to hear the verdict from the TH-cam gamers regardless of whether it's an existing IP or a new one.
Shadowrun was actually amazing, and I miss it to this day and hope for a reboot. The maps were incredible and all the different variations and variables of player and team builds made for wildly dynamic battles. Every shooter has guns, but now you have races, classes, magic, and tech. Some of the most fun I've ever had in a multiplayer FPS, like Counter Strike on ecstasy and mushrooms.
I was unfamiliar with Shadowrun IP so I actually really liked the FPS when it came out. Felt pretty different at the time and made the squad-based tactics fun with fantasy RPG elements. So not a TERRIBLE idea, imo.
Marvel Nemesis should NOT be in this list, it's absolutely 🔥 My favorite fighting game to date, loved the aesthetic and path they took concerning the voice acting. An absolute banger
His engir criticism is off in 2005 when the game came out hulk wasnt qell liked so making his entire argument whining about not having big shots like hulk qhen his fame had droped massivly mis a brain dead take
On the bright side about shadowrun. Is it eventualy DID get a proper rpg in 2014 or so. The popularity of which kinda ushured in a Crpg revival of sorts. Giving us pillars of eternity 2, The new bauldars gate games. Divinity orginal sin 2 and the pathfinder games
@@housemouseshorts I loved Shadowrun Returns, Dragonfall and Hong Kong. Great atmosphere, story, characters and gameplay. Simple games. Maybe a tad short. But I would love to play more of that. I could even see them as a third person game in a Valkyria Chornicles style where you walk through the cities in third person and activate a battle such as VC did. I think that could work and retain the table top/SR Returns (ea) game structure while also modernizing it. Mayhaps?
As a big fan of the P&P Shadowrun i was very angry when that shooter game came out, but i was also very happy when the videogame franchise was rebootet in a very very good fashion as "Shadowrun returns" and oh boy this game is great and also the follow ups were very decent - there are several mods for this and dragonborne i guess it was called out there still available today :-) go get it
Do you think you would have been as mad if it was called Shadowrun: Something instead of just Shadowrun? Like I don't see what's wrong with a shooter set in that universe? It's a good setting for one.
@@BoredDan7bro it would make a badass asynchronous extraction shooter, like hunt crossed with assassin's creed with a little bit of splinter cell and a dash of deus ex
Hey now Falcon, Gotham City Imposters was fantastic. It was like a loveletter to silver age silliness with some really cool stuff you couldn't use in other more grounded shooters. One of my favorites was rolling around with rollerskates with a katana in hand.
If anything it was just a wated idea in a time where it was very difficult to get people away from the AAA multiplayer games each year. If it came out in the last 5 years and had proper marketing it maybe wouldn't be fortnite, but it would definitely have done better.
Shadowrun 360 was one of the funnest games ive ever played. The movement options, the abilities, the way each race had a completly different playstyle. Truly an original experience
Shadowrun wasn't bad, but as you said, you could have put it out in under a different name. I liked the shooter with magic. It was a good idea, decently put together. It was however a games for windows live, and it really suffered from that aspect on PC. Marvel Nemesis was actually pretty funny to play as a fighter in multiplayer, but the single player/story aspect was straight garbage.
Duke is retired due to sinking in popularity and being too "Toxic" for modern government. Uses his skills in Rocket launchers and shotguns to take out Buffalo
I think Dwarves could have worked especially if they were going back the Grimm's version of story. Also as avid reader along with gamer gritty fairytale retellings is a giant genre with a lot of great stories.
The funny thing is that Gamer Girl's concept was made into a game! The intent/tone was made more personal and realistic (despite being anime style pixel art). You play as Girl's Boyfriend and Mod, It's called Needy Streamer Overload.
The Duke Nukem one could maybe be a good idea if it wasn't strictly a hunting game and was actually a narrative based game where Duke was abducted, escaped, and is being hunted, while also incorporating some hunting/survival elements briefly before you get access to better weapons, and has to fight his way through various environments on an alien planet, going from barren wastelands and jungles to alien cities and spaceships. I think I just want them to make a new Duke Nukem game that doesn't suck...
Dwarves sounds like it could be badass if it was based off the original Grimm’s brothers tale. Disney watered it down and made the Dwarves useless elderly toddlers.
Disney bought Lucas' Star Wars. A money-making machine, including instructions all presented on a silver platter just waiting to be put to film and print more money. Disney threw that money-making machine out the window, burned the instructions and sold us the silver platter. It has not quite worked out for them so far.
Thanks, Falcon. I'd managed to forget that Metroid Federation Force had ever been a thing. Sure, I think the basic idea of trying to expand on the Metroid universe sounds interesting, but the execution of it in that game was so bad that I'd been glad to forget it ever happened. Now I get to try to forget about it again, which tends to be a slow process for me.
Federation Force was actually a fun game; it suffered from the fact that the Metroid Fans were game starved at the time as well as so many reviews that were based on the fact that Samus wasnt a playable character. Getting your friends to play it with you was super fun honestly. It just sucks that it harshly judged during an unfortunate time. If it had come out after dread it would've probably gotten some of the praise it deserves.
2007 Shadowrun was awesome. Yes, maybe they shouldn't have called it Shadowrun, but the gameplay was sick. Very well made multi-player fps if you ask me. And yes, I have played all the actual Shadowrun games. I am not bothered by it.
11:40 the general concept was kinda re-taken and made into needy girl overdose, it's pixel/anime themed instead, and seems to be quite popular among streamers to play
Absolutely love you guys! This is my first comment! (I think) Sincerely, Jake and Falcon your reviews and pure insight are something I look forward to as a gamer, fan and sometimes loner lol Anywho, I rushed to the comment section to share my absolute love for Marvel Nemesis! THIS game was my brother and I’s go-to game. Wish the console version capitalized on the alternate costumes like the Nintendo DS and PSP versions. Always respect your opinion team! Just had to show Marvel Nemesis some love.
I was baffled when he said "People didn't like Doom 3 when it came out". Am I victim of the so called "Mandela effect"? I remember watching the news back then talking about how breath taking the graphics were and how scary it was. I don't get it. This game was one of the best of its genre when it came out.
@@Daya97228 its all the doom purists out there and how it wasn't the run and gun genre they wanted. It was one of the greatest back then but it's a victim of hindsight now.
I really loved the Shadowrun game. Obviously it was not a true Shadowrun game, but the gameplay was really fun. That and Brink were some of my favorite online shooters back in the day.
Marvel némesis rise of the imperfects was a good game, the combat and the story was good, the atmosphere and the art style was also really good and very different from most marvel games I would really like a sequel to this game ❤
Can't believe I had to scroll so far down to find this. I don't remember Doom 3 being unpopular at all. I actually don't think I've ever met anyone who didn't like it. It's a great game.
Exactly. Who the HELL says people did not like Doom 3? It was a MARVEL of technology at the time. It was scary AS FUCK especially in the early levels... That statement ruined the rest of the video for me... Jeeezz...
Till my dying breath, I will proclaim that Shadowrun 2007 was fantastic. It might not have been what long time fans wanted, but it was brilliant and got way less than it deserved 😢
The marvel one kinda makes sense but in a way to gauge if any obscure marvel heroes would do well popularity wise. Also a way to get people to know about the obscure ones which could be fun to some peeps
8:13 - Falcon, that was skillfully balanced to not invoke the rage of both Star Wars camps (I.e. the "Disney movies are great don't hate" group and the "the new movies suck, PT and OT only" group). You insulted both equally. Well played 👏😂
Marvel rise of the imperfects was so much fun! Most of the roster are still well known comic book characters. The imperfects were just a minority and story mode introduces them well. Playing as the female final boss is insanely enjoyable as well. And using Daredevil is just so funny because he couldn't lift almost anything on the map!
I actually bought a used copy of rise of the imperfects after a friend talked about how much he and his brother enjoyed it as kids. The campaign is brutal and downright impossible to beat. Never finished it.
You might have to reconsider Marvel Nemesis on this list. I literally used to beg people to come over as a kid so I didn’t have to enjoy that game alone!
7:19 absolutely would have spent an entire game with Anthony Daniels voicing C3PO, maybe with R2D2 to bounce off of - as a kid who loved the special editions and then saw Episode 1 - around 1998 makes sense. But games began "maturing" rapidly around that time, and I can see why a game like that was no longer in vogue
I would have liked a more slow-paced Doom game, with more story and less frantic, and I liked Doom 3 for giving more background and lore. 🙂 Not necessarily as a main game, but a spin-off. Note: while some of the reason is that I think the setup has some interesting ideas I'd like to see explored, a perhaps greater part is that I can't play the fast-paced games due to a neurological illness, and I want to experience the story in Doom 2016 and Eternal 😉
1) Shadowrun is more than a SNES/Genesis RPG. There were Shadowrun fans looking forward to the 2007 game, and a new IP would have lacked even that hook to draw attention. 2) While it was originally viewed negatively, time did cause some (idealists?) to wonder if the original direction for Doom 4 would have worked. And it did progress the Doom storyline. 3) Snow White has received plenty of dark retellings in various forms, of quite varying degrees of quality. People had been hoping for a new American McGee's Alice for decades. Pinocchio has just had a well-received "dark" Dark Souls-style game. 4) Not a defense, but the thought process behind Marvel Nemesis was probably pretty basic. While EA could only license regular Marvel characters, EA owned the new "Marvel" characters created for the game. They most likely felt making Marvel games was easy money, and they'd end up with both their own "Marvel" characters and the beginnings of a new big franchise.
Marvel Nemesis: Rise of the Imperfects was an awesome game! Literally played that game for hours! Story and VS mode. Friends all loved it too. Zoids Battle Legends I think might been a “worse” or Less popular game
I didn't play federation force, but I did play a halo game where I was neither Master Chief nor any other spartan, and I honestly loved it. I wish there were more games where you play as a ordinary soldier in the shadow of some super being. It was pretty well done. I'm guessing Federation Force was not pretty well done.
I really enjoyed Shadowrun. I fell right into the category you laid out. Multiplayer FPS fan who didn't care about the IP. I had a great time with that game and was very sad that it wasn't well received.
About Kinect Star Wars: Pitch Meeting: Developer: "Okay, so we have the Star Wars Licence!" Producer: "Yeah, awesome, you got any ideas what to do with it?" Developer: "Aye, we create a movement based game..." Producer: (Oh! I bet he's going for epic Lightsaber duels! Awesome idea!) Developer: ".....and we use the newly developed Kinect technology for it..." Producer: (YES! I KNEW IT! LIGHTSABER DUELS! CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY THIS GAME MYSELF!) Developer: "....and make it a DANCE BATTLE!" Producer: "HELL YEA..........wait, WHAT??!!!! (I hate my job....)
Alternatives for number 9 since they pretty much did the same thing: Nosgoth: lets take this storydriven single player franchise where fans are chomping at the bits to get a continuation of the story and turn it into a multiplayer arena fighting game that adds very little to the Legacy of Kain lore. That can only succeed. Syndicate 2012: lets take this franchise known for dark cyberpunk strategy games and turn it into a shooter. Then act surprised when the fans of the original games aren't interested in it, while newer fans are uninterested because the franchise is so old that people below 20 probably never had heard of it. Also while we are at it release it not long after Deus Ex Human Revolution, another shooter in a cyberpunk setting, the continues an older franchise, but unlike Syndicate it stuck to the original genre so the old fans would be interested in it.
Okay, I understand why people were upset with Shadowrun (2007), it’s not the standard IP. But I loved it. It was my introduction to Shadowrun as a franchise so I might be biased (I’ve since played the others and love them as well), but I really liked how the game played. As a shooter it was incredible. Fast-paced, tactical, gimmicky enough to be fun but not too gimmicky. It was awesome and my friends and I loved playing it.
Aw this gets crapped on too much. Kinect Star Wars is SO much fun (dumb fun), but fun none the less! The rancor destruction mode...the pod racing mode...even the main storyline was fun to play through. It responded surprisingly well as a kinect title, looked solid graphically, and even let you switch lightsaber vs force hands for a southpaw like myself. I didn't find the dance mode cringy but rather intentionally hilarious. It wasn't meant to be taken so seriously. Just a silly kinect game. Manage expectations and its a great time with the kiddos.
You guys are insane. Marvel Nemesis: Rise of the Imperfects, is one of my favorite games of all time. I replayed the game many times and i would go back and play again if my ps2 still worked. So many good memories of playing that game.
It's so weird to me hearing that people didn't like Doom 3. It was my first FPS game, my first horror as well. I got the collectors edition in the metal case when I was around 6 years old and it was one of 7 games my dad got for me. All the games and the Xbox were all bought at a garage sale, we didn't have much money but my dad wanted us to experience gaming like he did with his atari and Sega when he was a kid. Doom 3 was my absolute favorite and the collectors edition came with all the DLC and the original Ultimate Doom and Doom 2. Countless hours were spent playing that game with my dad and my brother when we visit him on the weekends and to this day I still love that game. The only criticism of the game I understand is the Flashlight thing, but all together I love every part of the game and actually wish we could get another Doom in that same more gritty style. I also enjoyed quake 4 for the reason being it was similar in style and on the same engine as Doom 3.
You know, that Snow White game sounds like a really really bad idea but here we are just a few months away from the release of that souls-like Pinocchio game
This reminds me of a theory I have about movies. Ripoffs are judged by how original they are and adaptions are judged by how accurate they are. Therefore, if you change the title and the character names, a good adaption = a bad ripoff and vice versa. Shrek never for 1 second pretends to be accurate to Mother Goose or Babes in Toyland, so Shrek is fine. Chicken Little is a sequel/satire of the original story with elements of War of the Worlds, but they used the actual title of the American translation of the book, so it sucks. If Back to the Future called itself “H.G. Well’s The Time Machine” people would be wondering where the hell the morlocks are. If the Guy Pierce version of The Time Machine called itself and the Morlocks something else , it would have been OK, Even the 4th wall break where the hologram sang a song from another version of The Time Machine might have worked better. Konami figured this out, which is why when an earlier version of Resident evil 5 ended up being too different from Resident Evil, they just pellet swapped Leon and called it Devil May Cry.
I'm not gonna lie I think a doom game that takes place during the fall of earth, where you're actually fighting on the frontlines of a seemingly hopeless war, witnessing some of the most horrific atrocities imaginable on a global scale sounds awesome. You could still mix in some horror elements in quieter moments similar to how FEAR does it, while providing huge action set pieces. I see the aftermath of the war in doom eternal with the massive tentacles in the sky, obliterated cities and destroyed mech's, and it does make me kind of wish they did a game that actually took place during all the carnage. I kind of hate how it seems to be a common trope in gaming for games to always take place AFTER all the huge epic disasters/wars take place, and you're kind of just trying to pick up the pieces.
Marvel Rise of the Imperfects was a hot take, that game was amazing in my childhood, and once you unlock characters, there is A LOT of known ones The gliding/swinging (depending on your character) and the 3d arena was ahead of it's time back in the day, even still, not enough fighters do it right
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Marvel Nemesis: Rise of the Imperfects is one of my favourite childhood PS2 games. We had tons of fun with my friend with the VS mode (Daily Bugle rooftop arena could be entirely destroyed). The game also has great music.
Holy shit I thought I'd be the only one I just typed a big paragraph on my own comment on how it's my favourite fighting game and how the bugle is my favourite map cause you can destroy the letters or if you're a strong character like venom you can fully pick them up and throw them at people haha.
No idea why it was on this list, his main point was cause it was random characters he hadn't heard of but there's an entire marvel comic series called rise of the imperfects so if he actually read the book it was based on he'd know who the characters are they're pretty cool characters in my opinion.
Plus yeah the victory music gets stuck in my head whenever I hear it.
@@seansmith877 nope, you're not alone.
Played the hell out of that game with my friends, brothers and cousins, shi was lit.
I'm wondering why it's on this list too
I saw that and immediately got stoked, I LOVE games with environmental destruction like that, it often looks ridiculous to have a game pit two basically demi-god level heroes against one another and the environment shows no sign of their having ever been a clash. The game looks sick, we need more like it with today's tech. We need more games with a focus on fun tech to begin with.
Man we used to get so pissy at each other for playing spiderman in that game cause his combos were nutty as hell. Loved Marvel Nemesis wish they'd remake it
So glad I'm not the only one! Lots of childhood memories on that game. Sure I didn't know who Johnny Ohm was but he and his name were the coolest thing to my dumb kid brain 😅
I Loved Marvel Nemesis. Your criticisms are completely valid, but I always wanted a sequel with less clunky controls, more characters and a better story. My brother and I played this game whenever we got the chance, I honestly loved it
agreed
Marvel Nemesis is goated
This game was fun af
Here, here. However, I will admit that if it did receive a sequel and excluded the ragdoll physics, I'd be a bit disappointed.
This game was amazing
Rise of the Imperfects was an awesome game. I was sad it didn't get a sequel.
I rarely disagree with you guys, but Marvel Nemesis: Rise of the Imperfects was such a fun and challenging game.
When you play through the game, you get introductions and stories for all the Imperfects and most, if not all, of them are interesting and well thought-out. A decent fighting game with some creative mechanics (Brigade getting stunned by his multiple personalities if you drain his energy) and intriguing, gritty story.
It's rather ironic. They're quite right that it makes no sense to just use up almost half of the roster with unknown characters, instead of characters the fans care about, but the imperfects are part of my childhood now, so they're actually characters I presently care about.
I liked it. Also if proper research was done the reason there were unknown characters in the game was because Marvel and EA were making a comic about the Imperfects which were released before the game and had the game been more successful they would have gone forward into the comics. So it was a cool idea but the game didn't do well so the imperfect comics were scrapped
Lol wot I disagree with this dude like 80% of the time.
I have to agree with you man. I remember playing in my ps2, and loved it! Great fighting game, and the characters were actually really cool.
It's a good game. They actually took a risk and created original characters and gameranx docks them for that. 🙄
That dwarf concept is not as crazy considering alice madness exist and was kind of successful. Specially with some obsidian top tier writing. Im actually sad it doesn't exist.
Lmao oh you poor idiot 😂
It's a bit dumber when you consider the original tales. Many fairy tales weren't exactly rainbows and sunshine to begin with. And what we do learn about it makes it sound like they went the stupidest possible way about it and didn't realise there's versions other than Disney's.
American McGee's Alice and the sequel work because the characters are still in line with their original characterisation, just taken to extremes.
@@Llortnerof which was also the intend with dwarf, as mentioned to opening cutscene is about one of the dwarfs experiencing extreme trauma which is more inline with the original dark tale
Also we have this game called Lies Of P, which is dark retelling of Pinocchio and it works worderfully.
@@Janfey Apparently they even wanna do more fairy tales which is kinda dope alsoooo to add another game that did the concept well the Wolf Among Us is a pretty dark take of what a modern world with these fairy tale characters would look like so dark fairy tale games really aren't that crazy of an idea lol.
Gotham City Imposters was decent though. It's taking strays for no reason. The movement in that game felt very clean and well put together, especially for 2012. The gun play was pretty okay for the era, nothing top of it's class but it was still fun. Plus it's not like WB scrapped all the beloved Batman games for it. Gotham City Imposters came out in 2012, while Batman: Arkham Origins came out a year later, with development starting shortly after Batman: Arkham City in 2011. Gotham City Imposters was an idea that did not suck and I'm sad that it got referenced to in this video. Even if it didn't directly make the list.
That game was basically why I picked up overwatch. It was really fun
Gotham City Imposters was a really fun game to play with my family. Some games are better from a family stand point.
I loved it. A bunch of people playing wannabe superheroes and supervillans. The makeshift cosplay costumes and magruber version of powers and gadgets was endearing and fun. Maybe it's just because I was actually good, but I have very fond memories of it.
How many times are you gonna say Gotham City Imposters
That game was so much fun. I mean cmon. A pirate cannon that shoots a homing parrot. Count me in.
I actually enjoyed marvels imperfects a lot as a kid but I was also like 8
Same, I remember me and my brothers loving it.
I had it. A relic of its time and really dull and middle of the pack when compared to other stuff from the day, but fun was had by me. I was in my early 20s.
I might still have it
I actually think the idea of a dark snow white/seven dwarves based on Grimm's brothers (not Disney) as a mix of, say, a plagues tale, and the guardians of the galaxy game, would be sick.
Or if it was something among the lines of Little Nightmares or Bramble
Or if something similar to American McGee's Alice
Same that actually sounded really cool. We need more unique things in gaming. Kinda confused on why that one was getting trashed.
I mean wolf among us type thing would be cool too.
All of the real fables and fairly tales are dark and often brutal... people deserve the real deal.
I liked the horror aspect of Doom 3. I played it again recently and......it is a slog through obsolete mechanics. I kinda hope to see a more modern take on that idea.
Edit: the original stories like Cinderella and others are pretty dark themselves. Snow White is no exception.
2nd Edit: the Metroid Federation Force picture gave me horrible flashbacks to Gundam SD. I screamed, tossed my phone across the room, and cried into my pillow.
yeah I liked Doom 3 better way better than the new games even though the new games were more like the old ones. so I would definitely like to see a new spinoff that is similar along with a game like Quake 4.
Honestly I've been playing Doom since the original came out in 1993 and 3 is actually my favorite. I've never understood the Doom 3 hate at all
As others have said, I loved Marvel Nemesis as a kid. I had it on Gamecube, and a couple years ago I picked it up on PS2. It's certainly a weird one, but it holds a special place in my young gamer memories.
Marvel Nemesis was one of my favorite games as a kid , I have countless memories of doing explosive barrel only fights with my cousin! Or being the “heavy” character and ragdolling other small characters! It was a blast
Marvel Nemesis was kind of a good idea that was poorly executed. There is nothing wrong about putting in new characters the issue is that they did too many new characters. I do honestly think it would have worked if it was more like a 75%-25% split of known Marvel characters and new characters respectively. The idea of a new group popping up and causing troubles is a good idea and literally standard in comics but again the issue is they had too many new characters. I think there was a total of 20 characters: 10 Marvel and 10 new. I did like most of the new characters so if they did it like 14-6 for 20 characters it would have been better received.
Another problem was how unfinished the game was. I liked it as a kid, but if you go back now and replay it, you can see the environments get less and less detailed until the ending levels are just you jumping on blocks. Not to mention the visual effects. But we all remember that part where Spiderman says "you know what we call that? we call that a web-slinging, ass kicking".
Suddenly, I remember this X-Men game, where you have your choice of playing as 3 all-new characters and none of the X-Men everyone else knows and loves.
All of the live service games lol
Facts
I agree
Like GTA online is the only one that was a success. And does that one even really count? Are all MMOs considered live service?
Waaaaaay more than 10 of those, LoL; that's more like a genre or development goal that sucks, IMO.
the overwhelming feeling you get of having to complete a battle pass after youve purchased it is the worst.
I actually would've been really excited about Dwarves. That sounds like a really good idea to me. A twist on Snow White similar to American McGee's Alice
came here to say exactly this lol. i feel like way too many people forget that Snow White and the Seven Dwarves isn't a Disney original, and that its actual story is jus a lil darker than what Disney put out there (tbh i havent read the original, but i do know that it's v e r y different from the version Disney did)
That Dwarves game actually sounds like a great concept, though i think the execution would have to be done perfectly. It would really have to show that it is a true break from the Disney version. Like make it a Souls-like or some other grimdark type game. Also, the whole Dopey thing could make sense story wise, you could even have some sympathy type cutscene with like a “hodor”/“hold the door” connotation.
American McGees Alice series exists. GamerNax is just dumb.
It honestly sounds a bit like what was done with Alice Madness Returns
I think there is a fan theory that Dopey's mental regression and being mute comes from being a victim of abuse or something. I never looked at the game, but I think I like where they were coming from.
Warms my heart to see everybody acknowledge how much a slap marvel nemesis was
@@thanhuy2583you know how there’s that saying “To each their own”
People can have opinions 🤡
@@thanhuy2583
if you dont like falcon dont watch it
let people enjoy what they want to watch
just coz you dont like it doesnt mean its stupid
@Stock Doc 😂 aww look at the troll projecting. What's the matter Not even men wanna touch you?
@@thanhuy2583 I’m sure you have some stupid opinions and no one is gonna stop you from liking what you like lol grow up
@@thanhuy2583
Listen
He does say when it's not his experience
Even in this video
No worries
I respect what you think 🤌
And it's not impossible to be fan of many games
And it's not like he is scaming peoples many people like me watch gameranx video to just chill and have a normal view on games of different types
Chill bro🙌
Peace
Shadowrun was by far my favorite online game in the 360 era. Put TONS of hours into that game and wish they would come out with a remake…with a different IP of course 😊
reminds me of a quote in an old gaming magazine:
the SNES game was quite good, except for the Hacking minigames, which were terribly dull.
the Playstation game had a VERY fun Hacking minigame, but the REST of the game sucked.
IF someone could combine the best of both, it would be one of the best games EVER.
Shadowrun was ahead of its time being only MP no story full price was still worth it. If they would make an enhanced Version or free to play it would do so good even add new maps or skins
I personally and the people I played Shadowrun on the 360 with had a blast with the game. It was a different take but the mechanics were unique when you have to not just watch your back or your front but enemies could phase through surfaces. The weapon mechanics were great and the trophies were hilarious. It was a good time.
Yeah it was a great game and at the time I had no idea it was a pre-existing IP. Fast forward to when Shadow run returns comes out and I was genuinely angry that they didn't make it an amazing fps like before.
As a shooter, I found it pretty enjoyable actually. I was dissapointed it wasn't an RPG since I'd been playing SR since second ed, but I was hoping enough people would enjoy it and want to find out more about the setting.
Honestly loved Shadowrun on the 360, it was just such a ridiculous fun game
@@Rehash01 literally how I felt brother
I actually really liked Shadow run and remember being incredibly excited when the game was released. I wished they had indeed made it its own IP so it could stand by itself because it was an interesting take on the FPS genre
rise of the imperfects was a childhood classic for me, one of my favorites
Shadow run really was one of my fave “B tier” 360 games. It was never going to challenge COD, halo or gears, but it’s a worthy contender for best of the rest.
I'm a huge Shadowrun fan and of course never went anywhere near that game but I heard from people who are not invested in the IP that it's not a bad game, and actually kinda fun.
What infuriates me is after Microsoft acquired Obsidian, there has been no announcement for a new Shadowrun game, after Cyberpunk 2077 there has been no announcement. After they acquired Zenimax/Bethesda, THERE HAS BEEN NO ANNOUNCEMENT!
Shadowrun is Cyberpunk with Magic. Add some other 'Runners to team up with, a playerbase to upgrade and I would pre-order this game in a heartbeat, and I am a Sony gamer! I have been PRAYING that the company that OWNS FASA to make this announcement, the company that has some of the better Western RPG studios out there, to PLEASE make this game.
@@arctic.wizardBefore I got into the IP it certainly was. The movement options with blinking through walls and the interesting essence system with tech augmentations were really cool concepts. The gunplay was pretty satisfying and working together with teammates of different playstyles was really fun. Unfortunately the economy for either team could snowball wildly, some of the maps were practically unplayable and the game was also one of the first crossplatform games (with all of those growing pains). It was a flawed fun game while it lasted and it would be cool to see the concept of it being repurposed into another IP.
@@ArcaneSorceror The Shadowrun trilogy has been out since 2013 on pc, and on consoles for just under a year ago
@Vc Knol Yep, and those were initially PC exclusive and a great taste of the Shadowrun setting. But imagine a Cyberpunk 2077 version
I liked doom 3. I thought it was a solid game. The original flashlight issue did suck, but other than that yeah. It was an enjoyable time.
i didn't have problems with flashlight or with anything else, i loved doom 3, still playing today, then there are also mods
I modded the flash light to On
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe there was a mod where your fl was literally ducktaped around your gun, it was hilarious. I think only the assault rifle, so you still had to switch to it to see. But at least you can see _and_ shoot.
I believe that he's too young to remember how hype everybody was for Doom 3 when it released because I don't know WTF he believes that nobody liked Doom 3. It was revolutionary for the time.
@@samuraicupcake289 your correct. Best mod for the game
I loved that 2007 Shadowrun lol it was pretty much the counter strike we didn't have on consoles. But looking at it now it's hard not to see that it kinda influenced hero shooters later on.
I second EVERYTHING you said about IPs. I am always skeptical of someone saying they're going to take the IP "in a new direction". Because, unless it's a mascot like Sonic or Pikachu, it begs the question: Why not just make it an original IP? And I suspect the answer, 99% of the time, is "Because we have no faith in this product and don't expect you to buy it otherwise."
It doesn't necessarily mean the game will be bad (for example: Resident Evil 7), but it does betray, to me, a severe lack of faith, either in their product or in their audience. Who they should know by now are skeptical either way and will wait to hear the verdict from the TH-cam gamers regardless of whether it's an existing IP or a new one.
Shadowrun was actually amazing, and I miss it to this day and hope for a reboot. The maps were incredible and all the different variations and variables of player and team builds made for wildly dynamic battles.
Every shooter has guns, but now you have races, classes, magic, and tech. Some of the most fun I've ever had in a multiplayer FPS, like Counter Strike on ecstasy and mushrooms.
I was unfamiliar with Shadowrun IP so I actually really liked the FPS when it came out. Felt pretty different at the time and made the squad-based tactics fun with fantasy RPG elements. So not a TERRIBLE idea, imo.
Marvel Nemesis should NOT be in this list, it's absolutely 🔥 My favorite fighting game to date, loved the aesthetic and path they took concerning the voice acting. An absolute banger
Same. I absolutely loved that game
His engir criticism is off in 2005 when the game came out hulk wasnt qell liked so making his entire argument whining about not having big shots like hulk qhen his fame had droped massivly mis a brain dead take
@@demonic_myst4503 calling something brain dead, When what you wrote looks like you had a stroke is hilarious
I loved Shadowrun from 2007. Played so many matches against the bots, such a blast to try the different characters powers.
On the bright side about shadowrun. Is it eventualy DID get a proper rpg in 2014 or so. The popularity of which kinda ushured in a Crpg revival of sorts. Giving us pillars of eternity 2, The new bauldars gate games. Divinity orginal sin 2 and the pathfinder games
I played the sega genesis shadowrun, when i saw the 07 gameplay i noped out.
@@housemouseshorts I loved Shadowrun Returns, Dragonfall and Hong Kong. Great atmosphere, story, characters and gameplay. Simple games. Maybe a tad short. But I would love to play more of that. I could even see them as a third person game in a Valkyria Chornicles style where you walk through the cities in third person and activate a battle such as VC did. I think that could work and retain the table top/SR Returns (ea) game structure while also modernizing it. Mayhaps?
Marvel Nemesis was actually an incredibly fun game to play. Miss that from my childhood
As a big fan of the P&P Shadowrun i was very angry when that shooter game came out, but i was also very happy when the videogame franchise was rebootet in a very very good fashion as "Shadowrun returns" and oh boy this game is great and also the follow ups were very decent - there are several mods for this and dragonborne i guess it was called out there still available today :-) go get it
Do you think you would have been as mad if it was called Shadowrun: Something instead of just Shadowrun? Like I don't see what's wrong with a shooter set in that universe? It's a good setting for one.
@@BoredDan7bro it would make a badass asynchronous extraction shooter, like hunt crossed with assassin's creed with a little bit of splinter cell and a dash of deus ex
nothing better than listening to Falcon's voice
I can think of a few much better things
Nothing worse than reading this stupid comment.
Hey now Falcon, Gotham City Imposters was fantastic. It was like a loveletter to silver age silliness with some really cool stuff you couldn't use in other more grounded shooters. One of my favorites was rolling around with rollerskates with a katana in hand.
If anything it was just a wated idea in a time where it was very difficult to get people away from the AAA multiplayer games each year. If it came out in the last 5 years and had proper marketing it maybe wouldn't be fortnite, but it would definitely have done better.
I really liked GCI too.
Shadowrun 360 was one of the funnest games ive ever played. The movement options, the abilities, the way each race had a completly different playstyle. Truly an original experience
My favorite fps multiplayer of all time. I wish It got more recognition. Put hundreds of hours into it easy. Almost 100% achievements
Shadowrun wasn't bad, but as you said, you could have put it out in under a different name. I liked the shooter with magic. It was a good idea, decently put together. It was however a games for windows live, and it really suffered from that aspect on PC.
Marvel Nemesis was actually pretty funny to play as a fighter in multiplayer, but the single player/story aspect was straight garbage.
You leave Rise of the Imperfects alone.... I loved that game. 😂
Honestly, a Duke Nukem hunting game sounds like it could be kinda fun as long as they kept the series' humor.
Duke is retired due to sinking in popularity and being too "Toxic" for modern government. Uses his skills in Rocket launchers and shotguns to take out Buffalo
I think Dwarves could have worked especially if they were going back the Grimm's version of story. Also as avid reader along with gamer gritty fairytale retellings is a giant genre with a lot of great stories.
Me too. I don’t think its a dumb idea at all. I mean we have that dark Alice game that a lot of people like, so why would this be too ridiculous.
@@Eviticus-Maximus me too. it think he only knows Disneys version for real
After reading fables, I know it's not a bad idea + everything obsidian touches is at least decent.
I want to play Escape From Diab now. It sounds so insane 😂
Even the name - Escape from diab(etes) 😂
@@damianbycroft4735 I DIDN’T EVEN GET THAT! 😂😂😂 That’s perfect
You can make the joke of going outside.
The funny thing is that Gamer Girl's concept was made into a game! The intent/tone was made more personal and realistic (despite being anime style pixel art). You play as Girl's Boyfriend and Mod, It's called Needy Streamer Overload.
Shadowrun was actually fun but looking at how different it is from all of the other games makes sense with how people felt about it
The Duke Nukem one could maybe be a good idea if it wasn't strictly a hunting game and was actually a narrative based game where Duke was abducted, escaped, and is being hunted, while also incorporating some hunting/survival elements briefly before you get access to better weapons, and has to fight his way through various environments on an alien planet, going from barren wastelands and jungles to alien cities and spaceships.
I think I just want them to make a new Duke Nukem game that doesn't suck...
Dwarves sounds like it could be badass if it was based off the original Grimm’s brothers tale. Disney watered it down and made the Dwarves useless elderly toddlers.
exactly.
That was my first thought, too. German fairy tales go hard! 😮😂
After American McGee's Alice I1m willing to believe, that it could have worked.
Looks interesting but the closest we’ll get is lies of p which I’m very hyped for
Was going to comment about how dark the brothers Grimm version was
Disney bought Lucas' Star Wars.
A money-making machine, including instructions all presented on a silver platter just waiting to be put to film and print more money.
Disney threw that money-making machine out the window, burned the instructions and sold us the silver platter.
It has not quite worked out for them so far.
They make more money than ever, turn off faux news
Thanks, Falcon. I'd managed to forget that Metroid Federation Force had ever been a thing. Sure, I think the basic idea of trying to expand on the Metroid universe sounds interesting, but the execution of it in that game was so bad that I'd been glad to forget it ever happened. Now I get to try to forget about it again, which tends to be a slow process for me.
The main thing I remember about Shenmue these days is that it partially gave us the Yakuza games.
Rise of the Imperfects was fun! You can throw cars in it!
I actually liked Marvel Imperfects. It was a fun game
Federation Force was actually a fun game; it suffered from the fact that the Metroid Fans were game starved at the time as well as so many reviews that were based on the fact that Samus wasnt a playable character. Getting your friends to play it with you was super fun honestly. It just sucks that it harshly judged during an unfortunate time. If it had come out after dread it would've probably gotten some of the praise it deserves.
2007 Shadowrun was awesome. Yes, maybe they shouldn't have called it Shadowrun, but the gameplay was sick. Very well made multi-player fps if you ask me. And yes, I have played all the actual Shadowrun games. I am not bothered by it.
11:40 the general concept was kinda re-taken and made into needy girl overdose, it's pixel/anime themed instead, and seems to be quite popular among streamers to play
That Shadowrun is really cool and I still believe it'd make a good game in 2023.
I don’t know how y’all are able to create so much good content, but thank you!
All thanks to your support
This. Gameranx always delivers. Very few gaming channels do these days.
@@jsullivan2112 what channels do you follow that don't?
@@jsullivan2112 always delivers my ass lmfao the one a day rule makes most of their videos seem extremely biased and thrown together.
I actually liked Marvel Nenesis so much.
Absolutely love you guys! This is my first comment! (I think) Sincerely, Jake and Falcon your reviews and pure insight are something I look forward to as a gamer, fan and sometimes loner lol
Anywho, I rushed to the comment section to share my absolute love for Marvel Nemesis! THIS game was my brother and I’s go-to game. Wish the console version capitalized on the alternate costumes like the Nintendo DS and PSP versions.
Always respect your opinion team! Just had to show Marvel Nemesis some love.
I actually really enjoyed the Shadowrun FPS. That was my first Shadowrun game and I liked it enough to want to play the others.
Hold on man marvel nemesis was my favorite game back in the day 😭
Marvel nemesis is actually a great game with new characters
To be fair to Dwarves, American McGee's Alice worked
I loved Doom 3. They practically invented the horror genre. I know purists are hardcore in their beliefs over their games but Doom 3 was great.
I was baffled when he said "People didn't like Doom 3 when it came out". Am I victim of the so called "Mandela effect"? I remember watching the news back then talking about how breath taking the graphics were and how scary it was. I don't get it. This game was one of the best of its genre when it came out.
@@Daya97228 its all the doom purists out there and how it wasn't the run and gun genre they wanted. It was one of the greatest back then but it's a victim of hindsight now.
@@mrflawless1165 I see
How does doom 3 invent the horror genre?
I really loved the Shadowrun game. Obviously it was not a true Shadowrun game, but the gameplay was really fun. That and Brink were some of my favorite online shooters back in the day.
Marvel némesis rise of the imperfects was a good game, the combat and the story was good, the atmosphere and the art style was also really good and very different from most marvel games I would really like a sequel to this game ❤
So Dwarfs was trying to be like American Mcgee's Alice, a darker telling of a classic... Id play it!!
Doom 3 was always a very good game and on the whole most people really liked it, it's also aged well
Can't believe I had to scroll so far down to find this. I don't remember Doom 3 being unpopular at all. I actually don't think I've ever met anyone who didn't like it. It's a great game.
Exactly. Who the HELL says people did not like Doom 3? It was a MARVEL of technology at the time. It was scary AS FUCK especially in the early levels... That statement ruined the rest of the video for me... Jeeezz...
Doom 3 has been my favorite take on the franchise.
Till my dying breath, I will proclaim that Shadowrun 2007 was fantastic. It might not have been what long time fans wanted, but it was brilliant and got way less than it deserved 😢
People still play it bro
They had to shorten the name from "Escape from Diabetes" so the developers wouldn't get (rightly so) harassed.
The marvel one kinda makes sense but in a way to gauge if any obscure marvel heroes would do well popularity wise.
Also a way to get people to know about the obscure ones which could be fun to some peeps
Shadowrun on the 360 was one of my favorite games. I thought it was great. I wish they would make a new one.
I just knew that "people" didn't like Doom 3 😮😮😮 For me was the closest to what I would want to see as expansion of Doom Universe
8:13 - Falcon, that was skillfully balanced to not invoke the rage of both Star Wars camps (I.e. the "Disney movies are great don't hate" group and the "the new movies suck, PT and OT only" group). You insulted both equally. Well played 👏😂
Marvel rise of the imperfects was so much fun! Most of the roster are still well known comic book characters. The imperfects were just a minority and story mode introduces them well. Playing as the female final boss is insanely enjoyable as well. And using Daredevil is just so funny because he couldn't lift almost anything on the map!
If it's not doom but kinda doom, its "doomed"
Sounds like any game EA released...
BOO THIS MAN!!! BOOOOOOOO!!!
@@CheeseburgerRandy17 Thanks for the like though!
I actually bought a used copy of rise of the imperfects after a friend talked about how much he and his brother enjoyed it as kids. The campaign is brutal and downright impossible to beat. Never finished it.
I beat it as a kid soooo
Skill issue.
You might have to reconsider Marvel Nemesis on this list. I literally used to beg people to come over as a kid so I didn’t have to enjoy that game alone!
7:19 absolutely would have spent an entire game with Anthony Daniels voicing C3PO, maybe with R2D2 to bounce off of - as a kid who loved the special editions and then saw Episode 1 - around 1998 makes sense. But games began "maturing" rapidly around that time, and I can see why a game like that was no longer in vogue
I still can’t get over “Escape From Diab”. WTF were they thinking?
Shadowrun 2007 was brilliant and definitely ahead of it’s time
I would have liked a more slow-paced Doom game, with more story and less frantic, and I liked Doom 3 for giving more background and lore. 🙂 Not necessarily as a main game, but a spin-off.
Note: while some of the reason is that I think the setup has some interesting ideas I'd like to see explored, a perhaps greater part is that I can't play the fast-paced games due to a neurological illness, and I want to experience the story in Doom 2016 and Eternal 😉
I really enjoyed the Shadowrun game. I didn't know about the series until much later, so there was nothing to disappoint
Same here. Because its nothing like the previous in the series is no reason to hate on a game.
It was pretty darn good. And it was the first 360 and PC cross play game. Although most of the time I had a PC player in lobby it lagged pretty hard.
We need it to drop a enhanced version and Free to play. I'll pay for maps and skins what a gem of a game
I liked the star wars dancing
Also marvel nemesis was good!
1) Shadowrun is more than a SNES/Genesis RPG. There were Shadowrun fans looking forward to the 2007 game, and a new IP would have lacked even that hook to draw attention.
2) While it was originally viewed negatively, time did cause some (idealists?) to wonder if the original direction for Doom 4 would have worked. And it did progress the Doom storyline.
3) Snow White has received plenty of dark retellings in various forms, of quite varying degrees of quality. People had been hoping for a new American McGee's Alice for decades. Pinocchio has just had a well-received "dark" Dark Souls-style game.
4) Not a defense, but the thought process behind Marvel Nemesis was probably pretty basic. While EA could only license regular Marvel characters, EA owned the new "Marvel" characters created for the game. They most likely felt making Marvel games was easy money, and they'd end up with both their own "Marvel" characters and the beginnings of a new big franchise.
That Shadowrun game was amazing. It was one of my favorite 360 games. After the game died the demo still had a fan base. It was pretty funny.
Doom 2016 pvp was actually great. I loved the arena shooter feel and the amount of customization.
I absolutely loved Shadowrun. One of my favorite pvp games. I agree was weird to call it that. Should have been a new game... which i guess it was :😜
Marvel Nemesis: Rise of the Imperfects was an awesome game! Literally played that game for hours! Story and VS mode. Friends all loved it too.
Zoids Battle Legends I think might been a “worse” or Less popular game
Battle Legends is one of my guilty pleasures, as well as Gundam games, but there was just something enjoyable about that Zoids game.
I didn't play federation force, but I did play a halo game where I was neither Master Chief nor any other spartan, and I honestly loved it. I wish there were more games where you play as a ordinary soldier in the shadow of some super being. It was pretty well done.
I'm guessing Federation Force was not pretty well done.
I really enjoyed Shadowrun. I fell right into the category you laid out. Multiplayer FPS fan who didn't care about the IP. I had a great time with that game and was very sad that it wasn't well received.
Then you can understand why the might not have gotten a sequel? The players who did care about the IP outnumbered those who didn't.
@@tiacool7978 Never said I didn't. Just said I liked the game and was sad it wasn't well received.
Oddly, my first experience with Shadowrun was the game and i absolutely loved it. Then I found out there were other games and boom, i was hooked
Do “new game ideas that should’ve been introduced a long time ago”
About Kinect Star Wars:
Pitch Meeting:
Developer: "Okay, so we have the Star Wars Licence!"
Producer: "Yeah, awesome, you got any ideas what to do with it?"
Developer: "Aye, we create a movement based game..."
Producer: (Oh! I bet he's going for epic Lightsaber duels! Awesome idea!)
Developer: ".....and we use the newly developed Kinect technology for it..."
Producer: (YES! I KNEW IT! LIGHTSABER DUELS! CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY THIS GAME MYSELF!)
Developer: "....and make it a DANCE BATTLE!"
Producer: "HELL YEA..........wait, WHAT??!!!! (I hate my job....)
Alternatives for number 9 since they pretty much did the same thing:
Nosgoth: lets take this storydriven single player franchise where fans are chomping at the bits to get a continuation of the story and turn it into a multiplayer arena fighting game that adds very little to the Legacy of Kain lore. That can only succeed.
Syndicate 2012: lets take this franchise known for dark cyberpunk strategy games and turn it into a shooter. Then act surprised when the fans of the original games aren't interested in it, while newer fans are uninterested because the franchise is so old that people below 20 probably never had heard of it. Also while we are at it release it not long after Deus Ex Human Revolution, another shooter in a cyberpunk setting, the continues an older franchise, but unlike Syndicate it stuck to the original genre so the old fans would be interested in it.
Everytime Doomy was mentioned, it sounded like he was singing the Doom song from Invader Zimm. So now I have that stuck in my head.
Okay, I understand why people were upset with Shadowrun (2007), it’s not the standard IP.
But I loved it. It was my introduction to Shadowrun as a franchise so I might be biased (I’ve since played the others and love them as well), but I really liked how the game played. As a shooter it was incredible. Fast-paced, tactical, gimmicky enough to be fun but not too gimmicky. It was awesome and my friends and I loved playing it.
Aw this gets crapped on too much. Kinect Star Wars is SO much fun (dumb fun), but fun none the less! The rancor destruction mode...the pod racing mode...even the main storyline was fun to play through. It responded surprisingly well as a kinect title, looked solid graphically, and even let you switch lightsaber vs force hands for a southpaw like myself. I didn't find the dance mode cringy but rather intentionally hilarious. It wasn't meant to be taken so seriously. Just a silly kinect game. Manage expectations and its a great time with the kiddos.
You guys are insane. Marvel Nemesis: Rise of the Imperfects, is one of my favorite games of all time. I replayed the game many times and i would go back and play again if my ps2 still worked. So many good memories of playing that game.
It's so weird to me hearing that people didn't like Doom 3. It was my first FPS game, my first horror as well. I got the collectors edition in the metal case when I was around 6 years old and it was one of 7 games my dad got for me. All the games and the Xbox were all bought at a garage sale, we didn't have much money but my dad wanted us to experience gaming like he did with his atari and Sega when he was a kid. Doom 3 was my absolute favorite and the collectors edition came with all the DLC and the original Ultimate Doom and Doom 2. Countless hours were spent playing that game with my dad and my brother when we visit him on the weekends and to this day I still love that game. The only criticism of the game I understand is the Flashlight thing, but all together I love every part of the game and actually wish we could get another Doom in that same more gritty style. I also enjoyed quake 4 for the reason being it was similar in style and on the same engine as Doom 3.
You know, that Snow White game sounds like a really really bad idea but here we are just a few months away from the release of that souls-like Pinocchio game
This reminds me of a theory I have about movies.
Ripoffs are judged by how original they are and adaptions are judged by how accurate they are. Therefore, if you change the title and the character names, a good adaption = a bad ripoff and vice versa.
Shrek never for 1 second pretends to be accurate to Mother Goose or Babes in Toyland, so Shrek is fine.
Chicken Little is a sequel/satire of the original story with elements of War of the Worlds, but they used the actual title of the American translation of the book, so it sucks.
If Back to the Future called itself “H.G. Well’s The Time Machine” people would be wondering where the hell the morlocks are.
If the Guy Pierce version of The Time Machine called itself and the Morlocks something else , it would have been OK, Even the 4th wall break where the hologram sang a song from another version of The Time Machine might have worked better.
Konami figured this out, which is why when an earlier version of Resident evil 5 ended up being too different from Resident Evil, they just pellet swapped Leon and called it Devil May Cry.
I'm not gonna lie I think a doom game that takes place during the fall of earth, where you're actually fighting on the frontlines of a seemingly hopeless war, witnessing some of the most horrific atrocities imaginable on a global scale sounds awesome. You could still mix in some horror elements in quieter moments similar to how FEAR does it, while providing huge action set pieces. I see the aftermath of the war in doom eternal with the massive tentacles in the sky, obliterated cities and destroyed mech's, and it does make me kind of wish they did a game that actually took place during all the carnage. I kind of hate how it seems to be a common trope in gaming for games to always take place AFTER all the huge epic disasters/wars take place, and you're kind of just trying to pick up the pieces.
Marvel Rise of the Imperfects was a hot take, that game was amazing in my childhood, and once you unlock characters, there is A LOT of known ones
The gliding/swinging (depending on your character) and the 3d arena was ahead of it's time back in the day, even still, not enough fighters do it right
Gothem City Imposters was so much fun though!