The world of ornaments is rather chaotic: ambiguity, lack of standardization, etc. ... . That's why it became such a vast subject. Although some of his contemporaries criticized him, we may thank Bach for often writing them in full. This way we know at least a little more how it exactly sounded like at that time. The text descriptions from that era are of relatively limited use because the terminology is also open to interpretation.
Love all of this. As guitarists, our esteemed scholars have so much to offer all enthusiasts of art music. Fretted instrument scholarship continues to impress, and deserves acknowledgement from the larger classical music community.
Thank you, very informative. Paul O'Dette is better at playing lute than at pronouncing French 🤣 (I'm joking because I'm very admirative). It's interesting to connect theory with practice, but I think the best way to play ornementation in the right way is probably to listen to baroque music, play, listen, play, listen... Like learning a foreign langage, after a while you finish by incorporating ornementation naturally, and with good taste. If I may add a point : all demonstrations were on JS Bach Music, played on baroque lute, and quite related to french baroque style ornementation. But the history of Lute is far longer than that, and the ornementation has varied a lot along a 250 y period or more - Dowland lute music by ex. (elizabethan english period), played on renaissance 7 or 8 chords lutes was not ornamented the same way, (slurs or port de voix were rare, not to say forbidden), and even Purcell (baroque) or Croft are different. Diminutions (divisions), not always written by the composer, were very used to help "sustain the long value notes" leading or bridging to the next chord.
Great video! I don't speak enough French to follow it all. But where are the links to other channels for your collaborators? Not in the notes. If you want more subs, you gotta treat people right.
Like me or not, you clearly don't know my work. Spend 2 minutes on my channel and you'll hear me play many hundreds of songs. You'll also hear me play at least 6 different instruments in at least a dozen different styles. So please do your homework.
Thanks for featuring my video alongside these legends, Tonebase!
The world of ornaments is rather chaotic: ambiguity, lack of standardization, etc. ... . That's why it became such a vast subject. Although some of his contemporaries criticized him, we may thank Bach for often writing them in full. This way we know at least a little more how it exactly sounded like at that time. The text descriptions from that era are of relatively limited use because the terminology is also open to interpretation.
Love all of this. As guitarists, our esteemed scholars have so much to offer all enthusiasts of art music.
Fretted instrument scholarship continues to impress, and deserves acknowledgement from the larger classical music community.
Thank you, very informative. Paul O'Dette is better at playing lute than at pronouncing French 🤣 (I'm joking because I'm very admirative). It's interesting to connect theory with practice, but I think the best way to play ornementation in the right way is probably to listen to baroque music, play, listen, play, listen... Like learning a foreign langage, after a while you finish by incorporating ornementation naturally, and with good taste.
If I may add a point : all demonstrations were on JS Bach Music, played on baroque lute, and quite related to french baroque style ornementation. But the history of Lute is far longer than that, and the ornementation has varied a lot along a 250 y period or more - Dowland lute music by ex. (elizabethan english period), played on renaissance 7 or 8 chords lutes was not ornamented the same way, (slurs or port de voix were rare, not to say forbidden), and even Purcell (baroque) or Croft are different. Diminutions (divisions), not always written by the composer, were very used to help "sustain the long value notes" leading or bridging to the next chord.
So good, all of them. Thanks!
Great video! I don't speak enough French to follow it all. But where are the links to other channels for your collaborators? Not in the notes. If you want more subs, you gotta treat people right.
All really good info from esteemed scholars.
Is this a crossover episode!?😂
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🤦🏻♂️ the young guy with glasses doesn’t belong there. He always plays Lagrima… needs to practice scales….
Like me or not, you clearly don't know my work. Spend 2 minutes on my channel and you'll hear me play many hundreds of songs. You'll also hear me play at least 6 different instruments in at least a dozen different styles. So please do your homework.
@@brandonackerget 'em!
Or maybe YOU don't belong here 😉
Go Troll elsewhere, we are serious and you don't impress anyone here. Brandon is an outstanding artist.
Just another silly idiot,never mind