This is another level of music where atmosphere and improvisation plays more important role than sticking to rules and technicality. Domeniconi delivers what is generally lost in our era.
The great thing is, he has recorded it on several occasions - and with every performance, he dwells further away from the printed score. I believe he's once said that this is exactly what you should do as a performer of this piece - add your own embellishments, repeat phrases you like a lot, or even improvise on sections. Also, do note that in the score, he suggests to play it in C sharp minor instead of D minor. Excellent suggestion, it becomes a much more dark and haunting piece. I've been fighting with Koyunbaba for 6 years; it's beginning to sound right in places now. ;-) Oh, and I have a designated guitar for it. Otherwise, it's hopeless with this tuning.
lmao the tuning is the only reason i haven't finished learning it.... i could have a designated for the piece but even if i finish it, every time i want to perform it i would have to tune and retune the guitar :/ lol
@@yohnkessler7188 its the exact same score... you play it the same but just tune the guitar different... im not 100% sure but if my music theory is right, i believe the tuning would be something like: 6 - 5-G# 4- C# 3- G# 2- C# 1- E too lazy to retune my guitar right :/ but if you want the exact tuning, let me know and i will retune it to figure out the exact tuning for you
It is by this play that I discovered Carlo Domeniconi. The guitarist who "revealed" it to me in concert was extraordinary. It was for me a magic moment.
Carlooooo.... Record Koyunbaba again Record many Koyunbabas. With present day sound and visual technologies. You know, every one knows ... you play it soooo nice . Those intricate details...moods... The world needs more of your Koyunbaba :))..
Koyunbabayı bilen Türk sayısının az olduğunu düşünüyorum.Ayrıca Carlo nun Koyunbabasına haydi diyelim ilk olmasa da en azından orta öğretim sistemimizde gerektirdiği ciddiyet gösterilerek yer verilmesi gerektiğini düşünüyorum :))
interesting af the composer plays it unlike almost anyone else (or rather the other way round) But yeah aha just funny innit, like I'm imagining some college professor critiquing this performance unaware who's playing saying "the composer would have meant this!" when in fact the composer is right there and played exactly what he meant if that makes sense aha
anybody know how to read the repeat instructions in the 4th? I cant find a definition for Rip. Poi seems to mean something like "and then." Most other recordings of this movement are played in a different order than this version.
Don't know the exact date, but most probably early 90's, TV4 was a channel of Turkish National TV, which started broadcasting in 1990, and it's Hikmet Şimşek at beginning of the video, was a famous Turkish conductor, also did classical music programs for the TV for a long time.
Bodrum gumusluk'te bir koy burasi ve carlo comeniconi oranin mistik yapisindan ve turk kulturunden etkilenerek bu besteyi yapmis... o yuzden ismi koyunbaba. bildigim bu sekilde
Kendisi Türkiye'de uzun yıllar yaşadı bizden iyi Türkçe biliyor ve arkadaşın da dediği gibi Koyunbaba adındaki bir efsaneden (efsane o köydde geçtiği için köyün adı koyunbaba) doğduğu için.
There is flamenco in there... what a difficult challenge for a guitarist this must be. Real pitty this is such a bad audio and visual recording. What does Koyunbaba mean anyways..? Is mr Koyunbaba not classical trained because he is holding his guitar "wrong"?
This is another level of music where atmosphere and improvisation plays more important role than sticking to rules and technicality. Domeniconi delivers what is generally lost in our era.
The great thing is, he has recorded it on several occasions - and with every performance, he dwells further away from the printed score. I believe he's once said that this is exactly what you should do as a performer of this piece - add your own embellishments, repeat phrases you like a lot, or even improvise on sections. Also, do note that in the score, he suggests to play it in C sharp minor instead of D minor. Excellent suggestion, it becomes a much more dark and haunting piece. I've been fighting with Koyunbaba for 6 years; it's beginning to sound right in places now. ;-) Oh, and I have a designated guitar for it. Otherwise, it's hopeless with this tuning.
rustinpieces can you link a c# version of it please?
rustinpieces haha same! about the guitar in another tuning!
lmao the tuning is the only reason i haven't finished learning it.... i could have a designated for the piece but even if i finish it, every time i want to perform it i would have to tune and retune the guitar :/ lol
@@yohnkessler7188 its the exact same score... you play it the same but just tune the guitar different... im not 100% sure but if my music theory is right, i believe the tuning would be something like:
6 -
5-G#
4- C#
3- G#
2- C#
1- E
too lazy to retune my guitar right :/ but if you want the exact tuning, let me know and i will retune it to figure out the exact tuning for you
@@yeahyeahyeah5089 Is anyone else reminded of Derek Bailey when hearing this or is that just me?
It is by this play that I discovered Carlo Domeniconi. The guitarist who "revealed" it to me in concert was extraordinary. It was for me a magic moment.
Carlooooo.... Record Koyunbaba again Record many Koyunbabas. With present day sound and visual technologies. You know, every one knows ... you play it soooo nice . Those intricate details...moods... The world needs more of your Koyunbaba :))..
the best performer of his own piece
That's when you have the passion and imagination for music! Bravissimo Carlo!
Master piece...
genius!
Amazing, sounds like a prayer.
Muy buena interpretacion semnsible con. Un excelente. Instrumento de gran sonoridad
The audience has not even understood the historical meaning of the moment.
exactly, very well said.
Care to explain?
Fucking incredible composition and execution.
This is insane! This music is abyss!!!
süper o kadar huzur veriyor ki keşke her kez dinlese
Baya bi yazım hatası güzel başarmışsın dostum
Merhabaa... Bu parçanın eğitim müfredatımızın içinde yer alması için çalışmaya başladım. Yardımcı olmak istermisiniz? :)))
@@denizozalp4559 hahhahahahahha gerçekten öyle
mesmerizing performance
magic hand+magic mind+magic sound= koyunbaba
C'est tres magnifique!
carlo domeniconi is Einstein of classical guitar I think
what does that make Dusan Bogdonovic then?
Einstein was a fraud though
INCREDIBLE!!!
Great meastro 😍😍👌👌😌😌❤❤
magic...
Türkler Carlo üstadı çok seviyor
Metehan Uluocak ne salladın be
Adam haklı hacı dayı
Koyunbabayı bilen Türk sayısının az olduğunu düşünüyorum.Ayrıca Carlo nun Koyunbabasına haydi diyelim ilk olmasa da en azından orta öğretim sistemimizde gerektirdiği ciddiyet gösterilerek yer verilmesi gerektiğini düşünüyorum :))
Magnánimo. Que perfección, virtuosismo en su máximo exponente...
دوستوم فقط حسن قاسمی سنگیلی یولی💗💗💗💕💕💕
interesting af
the composer plays it unlike almost anyone else (or rather the other way round)
But yeah aha just funny innit, like I'm imagining some college professor critiquing this performance unaware who's playing saying "the composer would have meant this!" when in fact the composer is right there and played exactly what he meant if that makes sense aha
Yeaaah, freedom of interpetation is evolution!
9:39 caralho até a câmera sentiu
... náročné, ale pekné; Koyunbaba je územie na JZ Turecka (Carlo žije v Istanbule), po našom bača (pastier oviec) alebo aj duša ovce. Vďaka!
2020 ?
i wish there were a better quality video somewhere? ?
Ok así es que es.
Il Chakra del Cuore
Year??
The tuning is c#minor right? Someone tell me please. I practice koyunbaba right now
yes
Is this Carlo Domeniconi playing?
bkeaneyboy yes! This is the Master and his masterpiece!
anybody know how to read the repeat instructions in the 4th? I cant find a definition for Rip. Poi seems to mean something like "and then." Most other recordings of this movement are played in a different order than this version.
sluggo12345 yes that means repeat THEN go to section A etc. if you still need I can detail them here later as I wrote it out one time
On entend rien
Does anyone know what year was this aired? I would be very thankful if anyone tells me that
Cristóbal Schulkin if I had to guess based off of clothes, colors of decor,type of decor, and film quality I would say around 1975
Don't know the exact date, but most probably early 90's, TV4 was a channel of Turkish National TV, which started broadcasting in 1990, and it's Hikmet Şimşek at beginning of the video, was a famous Turkish conductor, also did classical music programs for the TV for a long time.
I just started using this tuning on my guitar. How would you go about finding chords in this tuning?
you need to improvise this tuning is great and sounds awesome.
Well for starters, barring every string on a fret would form a minor chord.
Eserin ismi neden türkçe acaba ?🤔
Bodrum gumusluk'te bir koy burasi ve carlo comeniconi oranin mistik yapisindan ve turk kulturunden etkilenerek bu besteyi yapmis... o yuzden ismi koyunbaba.
bildigim bu sekilde
Kendisi Türkiye'de uzun yıllar yaşadı bizden iyi Türkçe biliyor ve arkadaşın da dediği gibi Koyunbaba adındaki bir efsaneden (efsane o köydde geçtiği için köyün adı koyunbaba) doğduğu için.
aff....disappointing see that this record is bad to watch. He is such a wonderful musician.
No, demasiado rápido no de disfruta
это что, сам карло доменикони????
There is flamenco in there... what a difficult challenge for a guitarist this must be. Real pitty this is such a bad audio and visual recording. What does Koyunbaba mean anyways..? Is mr Koyunbaba not classical trained because he is holding his guitar "wrong"?
OMG i can not believe it! Great Composer and worst guitarist at the same time!
Oh you are right...the fourth part... awful😂😂