Terry, thank you for subscribing. The majority of my rifles I have are break-barrels and I will feature all of them at some point. Stay tuned, I try to release a new video every Friday.
Wes I bought my new Benjamin maximus for 200$ .177 and with a jsb 13.43 monsters and getting 30 shots and at 22 fpe from my gun 1 inch group at 90 yard's have a wonderful day GOD bless
Your channel was recommended from a friend. Thank you for your no B.S. review... With what's happened today I will be ordering this. Looks like an awesome backyard "tool"... I watched all your GAMO reviews... Well done sir...
@@lcjohn51 this baby can kill a little more than just rats. 28 FPE will take a hog or a coyote at 25 yards with a humane head shot. I wouldn't recommend or condone it though.
Thank you for a good review on the Swarm Magnum. You are the first person to review it that actually shot accurately with it. Some reviewers I think don't know how to zero it or shoot it.
You gave me all the information that I want to know about this air rifle and you used my favorite pellets also!! Excellent video, you just earned a sub.👍😎👍
Happy New Year John...Wingman here. Love the side mounted bipod that I purchased on your advice from your website. Mounting was quite easy and the results were way beyond my expectations. Groupings you could cover with a quarter at 35-40 yards on my Gamo Magnum. Will be adding pods to my Sig ASP. Have a safe, healthy and prosperous new year.
I have both the swarm maxxim and the swarm magnum. Depending on what pellet you run you can get about 19 fpe from the maxim and 31fpe from the magnum. As far as scopes go I have blown through about 10 different scopes with the magnum. This includes Athlon, Luepold, Vortex, SWFA, and Discovery scopes. So I decided to invest in 2 of those zero recoil mounts and BINGO!!! No more blown out scopes. Only took me a year to find out lol. Anyways, good review on one of my favorite bb air rifles.
I got the magnum without the 10 shot magazine it came with a much better scope very happy with the gun I have 4 gamo rifles and the magazines don't like loading a few of the heavy pellets however they have great power and accuracy nice guns
I've had this gun for 5 months. I upgraded the scope to a Hammers - Air Gun Rifle Scope 3-9x40AO Magnum. Since then my shots have been at a consistent dead center at 25 yards. My backyard is only so big, so that's where I have it sighted. That's using Crosman Premier .22 cal Domed Ultra Magnum 14.3 gr. pellets. I also have heavier grained Gamo pellets that perform just as well at the same distance. Note: I took a robin on the very top branch of a tree at 98.7 yds. (I used my range finder). Thought I missed it until it dropped. I qualified Expert in the army with an M16-A1 with open sights, but that was 33 years ago. My eyesight isn't nearly as good as it once was (I wear glasses now). This gun is just that good. It has a LOT of power for a break barrel, and doesn't break the bank. It does take about 200 shots for the 60 lb pull to settle down. At first I didn't think I'd be able to cock it. Once it breaks in, it's awesome.
1:16 You said it was a non-adjustable objective, but I have the same gamo and can adjust mine. It's on the opposite side and have to unscrew the stopper before adjusting it, then you screw the stopper back in and boom!
The pellet that I am using for the Gamo Swarm Magnum is H&N FTT 14.66gr....head size 5.55mm of which I have no problems loading a pellet into the mag....I replaced the 6mm screw of the second stage with a 8mm screw that I screwed in all the way...I now have a much shorter second stage pull....This is a very powerful rifle
I bought 1 when first came out $350. I love it. I can plink a 18 x 18 window at 160yrds. Hit 18 times out of 20 shots, factory scope. I got about 5 different pellets. I forgot which one is the best. But it depends on the distance. 43yrds it love the cheap crossman
@@AirgunDetectives I got another scope that came in a package deal from Airgun Depot. What is that shock scope rail & where did U find it? I barely shoot it now in the alley. People was taking my targets & dumping trash where I keep it clean to shoot at safely with dirt hill back stop
Like your channel and I subscribed 💚 I own about 15 break barrels and this rifle is the king of cocking effort💙 not difficult for me because I take regular trips to the gym but I would say at least 60 lbs. And this is my favorite 😍
Don't think the Gamo Swarm Magnum is 60lbs of cocking effort, the Gamo Magnum 22 is 49lbs clocked in by Kenny Kormandy, in time after shooting so many pellets down the barrel of the Gamo Swarm Magnum it gets abit easier, after that it feels like 35lbs. The most accurate pellet it likes is Air Arms 16gr
I shoot with a gsmp swarm maxim .22 customized stock. And trigger work... I do a lot of pest control... I don't eat house sparrows, or rock chucks...lol.. but I do cook squirrels, pigeon breasts, and rabbit... I do a lot of custom work on Gamos for my friends.. I l9ve the JSB Hades 15.89 grain. As well as there 18.1 grain ... I have several Gamo guns, as well as a couple PCP.. each had it benefits, likes, dislikes.. nice video by the way..Good luck shooting with it... 😉
Great review, thank you! Sorry for the question-the difference between a shrouded and unshrouded barrel is? I do not have anyone local that carries these so I will have to know what to order.
Yeah I just got this gun and its wicked..anyone looking for power and accuracy this gas magnum has it..like he said cocking it is a workout..specially new out of the box..if anyone wants to know H&N crow magnums,Baracuda hunter extreme, Gamo Red fires and Crosman hollow point 14.3..these all shot really well with my particular rifle..and actually 4 or 5 more still weren't bad but they performed the best..if you thinking about getting it Amazon has a good price on it now..thanks for the detailed video.i think I'll invest in your optic set up..the recoil is tremendous..this is like my 7th Gamo..I love them all..although after firing this the others feel like peashooters..do you have the whisper fusion mach one..22 cal..its a real nice gun also..got some power to it.. .
Has there been a hint on what Gamo has new for 2021...is there going to be another upgrade on the Gamo Swarm Magnum maybe a Gen3... 25 caliber would be wonderful?
I wouldn't expect much. Covid-19 has the companies working at a pretty slow pace. I haven't heard much and shotshow 2021 is canceled so there is no sneak preview.
@@AirgunDetectives It is not a cold virus that considers our free market business "non-essential". That attack on our free market comes from the ideologies of marxism.
That is strange...the 14.66 go in real easy in my magazines. I did have some issues when I first got the gun with the magazines in that there was not enough spring tension on them. I very carefully removed the small Phillips screw and put a couple of more turns on the spring. They have been flawless ever since. But I did not have an issue with the FTT 14.66 seating. My Maxim loves the Benjamin Destroyers .22 but I need a pellet seater with those...
@@zome53 These are the Dome H&N Field Target Trophy 14.66 gr 5.53 per my Digital Caliper. I tried several cans they are all the same. I purchased these over a year ago. Are your pellets newer? Maybe a different lot?
Those are the same pellets I feed my Swarm Maxim. Good pellets. I need to research that bullseye mount... that doesn’t offset your scope when it moves like that? Would you put the bullseye on all your break barrels?
Good content m8. I’ve been thinking about getting that rifle, I like the idea of the 10 shot magazine but I do love my Diana 350 NTec, that rifle is a real tack driver. Eat what you shoot doesn’t apply to the rats 🐀 I was shooting the other day but the odd bunny 🐰 now and again is all good for the dinner table
trying to decide between this, the fusion gen 2, and maxxim. First air rifle for me and only intend to use for target practice up to 100 yards max. Your advice is appreciated. Thanks for the great video!
I have the most fun, especially for plinking and target practice with the Maxxim Swarm, if you like a magazine. They are really east to cock 27-30 lbs. They shoot realistically 700 fps with a 14.0 gr pellet. The .177 are good with a heavy pellets but it's much more practical to go with the .22 caliber. I will be releasing a video on the Bone Collector Swarm soon. Basically the key for ultimate accuracy on the Gamos is the upgraded trigger screw and bipods.👍
Last week my shots were all over the place I figured it was the baffle , I took off the round plastic piece at the end of the barrel, I pulled out the baffle it was broken into two pieces so the pellet was hitting the baffle then exited out of the end of the barrel, I left it out my shots were spot on, this also happened to someone else that made a comment on Amazon about the Gamo Swarm Magnum. I might purchase a suppressor and put it on I can't see putting another baffle that is cheap looking not much to it
That can happen, the pellets were hitting the plastic baffle. Remember Gamo has a 5 year warranty on that model. Not sure if they can send you a new piece or they may want the rifle. I would call Gamo.
Hey great videos I'm new to air guns and I just bought my firs gamo swarm magnum gen 2 thanks to your videos I really appreciate it. I got 2 questions what scope do you recommend? And what non-lead pellet do you recommend also I'm pretty good with my rifle but I want a better scope for turkey hunting (I eat everything I kill)
@@AirgunDetectives Excellent, I hope to see the review. I have four Springers (HW95, 97, 98 and AA Pro Sport) but find the HW98 light and accurate enough to use for HFT competition in the UK.
Nice review, thanks for the information. I just got into break barrel airguns, and i heard you say never pull the trigger without a pellet in the barrel. I did not know that, and have cleaned the barrel two or three times and dry fired it. Could I have damaged the gun??
That is a general rule and it should not hurt the rifle if it unintentionally happen a few times. Gamo claims there rifles can be dry fired. The reason it could do damage is break barrels use a piston to create air pressure in the chamber. When the rifle is cock the piston is pushed backwards toward the trigger and catches on the sear. The spring or gas piston is fully compressed. Once you pull the trigger the sear is released and the piston is violently thrown forward into the air chamber which creates the high pressure. The pressure builds within a fraction of a second and forces the pellet out of the barrel. If you dry fire the rifle there is no pellet to create that back pressure and the piston impacts much harder into the front of the air chamber. That all being said I had a Gamo 220 hunter, spring piston and I dry fired that many times with no issues. I just wouldn't make a habit out of it because it could do some potential harm or cause the piston seal to wear out prematurely. Thanks for watching!
I will get more into the Bullseye mount for you when I review one of my Diana rifles in the future. In fact I have a new mount on back-ordered. Thank you for watching!👍
The Gamo RRR thing is a joke, doesn't absorb recoil at all. The Diana mount works, and surprisingly it holds zero, just be careful tightening it up. I would actually recommend lapping the rings on it if the scope is an expensive one though, it will ensure perfect fit. Don't tighten the rings down much, I would go the minimum recommended torque, probably under 20 inch pounds. The scope won't move back in the rings on the Diana mount because it completely eliminates recoil, so no use risking scope damage from over tightening.
Hi Rodney, that is a UTG 4-16x44 AO SWAT AccuShot Rifle Scope, EZ-TAP, Illuminated Mil-Dot Reticle, 1/4 MOA, 30mm Tube. This is also their "TS" True Strength platform which can stand up to heavy recoil. The Bullseye mount is made by Diana, look for the best price on the internet. Thanks for watching!
What are the best pellets for penetration in the Gamo Magnum? Will it fit the crosman penetrator? Need something that'll penetrate a raccoon skull at 20 to 50 yards.
You need to look at accuracy first. The style of pellets don't make a significant difference as far a hunting. You need to look for most FPE and accuracy combined. Each rifle is specific. The FTT 14.66 worked the best in mine but you might have different results with your rifle.
I see what you mean about accuracy now. Been using the latest Walmart exclusive Ruger impact Max elite with Gamo rockets and crosman premier hollow points, some of which are customized, and never had much of a problem hitting a large raccoon head at 20 yards or maintaining decent grouping on Targets. Then I tried using ruger's cheapest pellets at Walmart. Maybe they will shoot straighter out of the swarm Magnum. Got a great deal and I'll be picking one up in a few days. Hope that experimental loading mechanism doesn't bust too soon. There's been quite a few editions of the mechanism from Gamo over the years and they've yet to patent it. So good luck to us both on that.
Hi , im from italy and congrats for your videos , very nice. Please can i ask you what is the transfer port size in millimeters for this gun ? Thanks tuo very much
Great review. I suspect by adding a heavier scope and areas where weight can be added (be creative) the groupings "should tighten up...Personally I only have a Gamo Accu. 22 and it is the most accurate springer I own. I have many "vintage Beemans" R1s, R10s, R9s break barrels and still even with the great Rekord trigger, I still am unable to consistantly get an honest hole in one 5 shot groups out to 35 yards which I can with the Accu .22. I can only imagine if it had a Rekord or AirArms trigger in it..While not to highjack your post on my opinions on fpe. My Accu .22 sits by door my door as a go to gun. And I have such high confidence in knowing where my mildots are set. All normal airgun game is in danger out to 60 yards away. And my 18-30fpe airguns mainly stay in the safe. I turned down my "vintage" Beeman Crow magnum to around 15fpe, which initially came fully pressurized at around 30fpe. The Theoben H.E. air piston was great, you could turn down the air piston (which came maxed out per Beeman standards) but could easily be tuned down to mitigate hold sensitivity and then able to apply bar pressure with the little hand held pump it came with. I never did need to add more air...Would be nice if newer air pistons made it simple to de-tune or add air, without taking stock off. It definitely can be done. It seems at least with mechanical and air/gas pistons the one's shooting around 14-16fpe at the muzzle offer plenty of power for airgun game, so long as you can judge ranges and have a good mildotted scope. If it was easier to market accuracy, then fpe that would be a good thing. The company's seem to be marketing to the first time buyers, we are on to their over inflated rates, less forgiving hold due to the science of recoil? Old timers know the physics that are involved in achieving high fps, and know the negative side effects, so market to us!! I can shoot good groups with my "kickers" but everything needs to line up perfectly to get off that perfect hold, especially in hunting situations. Make some more 14-16fpe breakers/underlevers! The "chart" that says how much fpe is required to humanely take an animal, really doesn't mean much. I have defied it many times. What is required is confidence in what you are shooting, will hit where your aiming.....
I couldn't agree more. You can have all the FPE in the world but if you are not accurate with the gun it means nothing. I appreciate you watching and thanks for the comments. I have an ACCU in .22 as well. I added my trigger screw and even a second screw in the SAT trigger to adjust the first stage. I even have a gas piston kit for it but I just haven't had the time to install it.
I really appreciate your multiple tests regarding this gun. Maybe add a dB test as well. Anyway, I was wondering if you could make any recommendation(s) on multi shot break barrel .22s other than this guy. I'd primarily be hunting with it, and I also value a gun that is NOT hold sensitive. Right now, this guy is at the top of the list, but I'm open to suggestions. Thanks again, just subbed!
what scope can I get that will hold up long term.i can handle the cocking effort as I'm a fairly strong guy.i just dont want to waste my time with crap scopes
@@AirgunDetectives got it at a pawn shop. Just filed the wedge and flipped the seal. Kinda bummed cause the swarm system is denting the pellet skirts so i took it off. Im getting half inch groups at 15 yards so id hate to take it back.
That is a UTG 4-16x44 AO SWAT AccuShot Rifle Scope, EZ-TAP, Illuminated Mil-Dot Reticle, 1/4 MOA, 30mm Tube. Mounted on a Diana Bullseye recoil absorbing scope mount. Thanks for watching!
I get a little better muzzle velocity out of the old version prior to the swarm and the suppressor. I think both of those decrease output slightly. I have got better then 1600 fps with the .177 model shooting Red Rockets on the original Magnum.
I really think it depends on the specific rifle and how smooth the air chamber is as well as the piston seal. I have tuned several and seen an increase in velocity on most. It sounds like you got a good one!👍
Love your videos, I'm having alot of issues getting this dialed in. I've only shot about 50 rounds through it. It groups great with GTO pellets and gamo fire. 20 yards you can cover 3 shots with a dime. I can't get it on the bullseye or even as close as you are any ideas?
Go to my website and read the article I recently posted on Breaking-in your new Breakbarrel. www.airgundetectives.com All my .22 cal Magnums love the H&N Sport FTT 14.66 gr pellets.
Great video with lots of information about this gun so it will be my next one to buy, as for the recoil reducing mounts yes i bought one too. I dont know but it works well for me but is it worth 60 bucks i dont know. I found one at half the price same design but it came to me all wanky crooked but i got it fixed up i had to loosen the rail screws and kinda twist it back to level so its good now it seems to be the same mount but without the branding name on it but anyway i like it.
I see you have another great video I am on the same level that you are on I prefer break barrel I have a hatsan 125 sniper vortex gas piston in 22 cal and I luv it but I wanna interested in another break barrel I was looking into getting another hatsan 125 but have my eyes on this as well which one you go with out of these two gun gor hunting purposes only and again great video
Hatsan makes some great guns. I have at least 15 of them if not more. I will be doing a review of all three calibers in the 125 sniper models. Thanks for watching !👍
The ones out there are not very good. The Bullseye mounts are just ok. I hope to have my own new design recoil mount out sometime next year. Still in the R&D stages.
Technique is key. You get used to it and it feels like nothing. Don't use the scope without that Diana mount. You'll be lucky of you get through two cans of pellets before the scope is completely trashed.
Hey what scope do you think would go best with this gamo swarm magnum. I do have the zr 1bullseye mount already just trying to get advice on a decent scope that's AO. And thanks for the great videos.
Maybe a Hawke? That's what I'm getting. I currently run a Zerotech Thrive which is nice for the money, but don't do what I did and run it on a Gamo magnum with no ZR mount. It nearly destroyed the scope but I took it off in time and had to remove the zoom ring and tighten the screws that hold the eye bell on because it was wobbling. The scope walked back in the Sportsmatch rings, and the stop pin deformed and rode up over the stop pin hole and munched the scope rail. ZR mount is the only solution that actually works with these magnum springers.
I will do a ballistic and FPE comparison between the 135 and the Gamo magnum. They are both really good for hunting. I do like the Gamo 10 shot magazine and it weighs less. But you get a beautiful walnut stock and adjustable check rest with the 135. You can't go wrong either way.
Great video! Have you noticed any difference in power between this and the non-swarm magnum? Do they seem to have the same chamber size? Really appreciate your feedback
It is basically the same gun. It has a non-shrouded barrel and the stock is a bit different. The the FPE is pretty much the same. It does seem a bit more difficult to cock because there is nothing to grip but the plain barrel. I will do a video on that in the future. Thank you for watching 👍
I have about 1500 rounds through the mount so far and it is holding at zero. I purchased a couple of after market, picatinny non-branded similar type, and they didn't last 100 rounds. I have four of the ZR mounts and I have not had an issue yet. If something changes I will bring it up in a future video.
i have 2 gamo rifles, both 22, the original magnum and the swarm maxxim, i have the hatsan carnivore 30 cal and a weihrauch hw50s in 22,, my next rifle will be the weihrauch 95l in 22
Because a powder burner rifle recoil pushes in one direction. Magnum springgun not only pushes back but the reverse recoil when the piston slams into compression tube is so harsh it can even make the scope slide through the rings. And walk on the mount. It's kinda like an impact gun movement, but a back and forth. To include vibrations. It will certainly trash most normal scopes.
I actually explain that in some of the videos. What you have in a breakbarrel rifle is a "Reverse" recoil. When you cock the rifle it compresses the spring or gas piston and it engages the sear which locks it in place until you pull the trigger. Once the trigger is pulled, the sear releases the piston which actually goes forward and impacts into the front end of the air chamber, compressing the air to force the pellet out of the barrel, the piston then bounces back after that impact. Most traditional scopes for centerfire rifles are designed for a rear recoil. The break barrels have almost a double recoil in that the gun is thrown forward and then backwards. Most scopes are not built for that forward or "Reverse" recoil. Trust me I have destroyed many. I hope that answers your question and thanks for watching!!!
@@AirgunDetectives Hello AD. I first saw the question from yeahitsme210 I was to reply,but you did so for me. Good explanation. That is almost word for word i would have explained.. However there can be a "third recoil" on a magnum spring or gas ram. If you use a heavy pill,any case,say a JSB .22 cal 18.13grn, or a JSB Jumbos 25.39 grn you will get another "slight" recoil as the pellet or what ever you shoot will give you a slight "push" as it wants to exit in a hurry.. This was explained to me by a "pcp" airgun. I was told to dry fire the gun with out a pill. It was safe to do so. It made a very loud bang more than I expected,but not much of a recoil. Then loaded a 230 grn lead slug and I got a recoil of about my .308. So yes, believe there can be a exit recoil from a strong breakbarrel air gun. Oh My pcp is Hatsan Hercules .454 caliber.. Yes it is heavy,bulky,but is strong enough for and exceeds my requirements..
I just got this and can't get the scope to zero. I got it in at about 25ft but when I moved it further out to 150ft its very inconsistent. I'm thinking I need to up grade the scope. What would you recommend putting on it that won't be too expensive
The scopes that come with those rifles need to be sighted in at about 20-25 yards. Your point of am will change depending on how close or far you are from tour target. That's why a mil-dot reticle works well because your can adjust your aim using the mildots. These are pretty good amzn.to/2WTn7QA
The stock scope on the stock rail won't hold zero under this thing's insane recoil. It will get destroyed. Get a good scope and definitely get a Diana ZR Mount. It's the only way a scope can survive on this thing.
Hi Jennifer...They both would be very effective but the Maxxim is a much easier cocking effort, around 30lbs. The Magnum is more difficult to cock around 50lbs. You do get more FPE out of the Magnum but the Maxxim still has plenty of FPE for small game hunting or pest control. Thank you for watching👍
It nice to see someone doing break barrel reviews in this pcp air gun environment. Really good review. I sure enjoyed it and subscribed.
Terry, thank you for subscribing. The majority of my rifles I have are break-barrels and I will feature all of them at some point. Stay tuned, I try to release a new video every Friday.
I totally agree. A lot of reviews are PCP, CO2 or guns that cost $800 to $1500. Nice to see a good review on a gun most of us can afford.
Wes I bought my new Benjamin maximus for 200$ .177 and with a jsb 13.43 monsters and getting 30 shots and at 22 fpe from my gun 1 inch group at 90 yard's have a wonderful day GOD bless
Your channel was recommended from a friend. Thank you for your no B.S. review... With what's happened today I will be ordering this. Looks like an awesome backyard "tool"... I watched all your GAMO reviews... Well done sir...
Make sure you watch this Friday's release. Right down your alley 👍
i bought it for my boyfriends 24th birthday.. he loves it. great quality worth every penny.
Nice review, I'm planning to buy me one of those rifle, and you're right don't kill it if not going to eat it
Rats?
@@lcjohn51 this baby can kill a little more than just rats. 28 FPE will take a hog or a coyote at 25 yards with a humane head shot. I wouldn't recommend or condone it though.
Awesome review. That air rifle looks like a blast to shoot, especially with the 10 shot magazine.
Thank you for a good review on the Swarm Magnum. You are the first person to review it that actually shot accurately with it. Some reviewers I think don't know how to zero it or shoot it.
Thanks for watching and appreciate your comments.
You gave me all the information that I want to know about this air rifle and you used my favorite pellets also!! Excellent video, you just earned a sub.👍😎👍
Happy New Year John...Wingman here. Love the side mounted bipod that I purchased on your advice from your website. Mounting was quite easy and the results were way beyond my expectations. Groupings you could cover with a quarter at 35-40 yards on my Gamo Magnum. Will be adding pods to my Sig ASP. Have a safe, healthy and prosperous new year.
I have both the swarm maxxim and the swarm magnum. Depending on what pellet you run you can get about 19 fpe from the maxim and 31fpe from the magnum. As far as scopes go I have blown through about 10 different scopes with the magnum. This includes Athlon, Luepold, Vortex, SWFA, and Discovery scopes. So I decided to invest in 2 of those zero recoil mounts and BINGO!!! No more blown out scopes. Only took me a year to find out lol. Anyways, good review on one of my favorite bb air rifles.
Picked my Magnum up at Walmart for 207 bucks.
Nice!
Looking into buying a Gamo Magnum and see the recoil messing up scopes as a common problem, what kinda of zero recoil mounts should I get?
I got the magnum without the 10 shot magazine it came with a much better scope very happy with the gun I have 4 gamo rifles and the magazines don't like loading a few of the heavy pellets however they have great power and accuracy nice guns
I've had this gun for 5 months. I upgraded the scope to a Hammers - Air Gun Rifle Scope 3-9x40AO Magnum. Since then my shots have been at a consistent dead center at 25 yards. My backyard is only so big, so that's where I have it sighted. That's using Crosman Premier .22 cal Domed Ultra Magnum 14.3 gr. pellets. I also have heavier grained Gamo pellets that perform just as well at the same distance. Note: I took a robin on the very top branch of a tree at 98.7 yds. (I used my range finder). Thought I missed it until it dropped.
I qualified Expert in the army with an M16-A1 with open sights, but that was 33 years ago. My eyesight isn't nearly as good as it once was (I wear glasses now). This gun is just that good. It has a LOT of power for a break barrel, and doesn't break the bank. It does take about 200 shots for the 60 lb pull to settle down. At first I didn't think I'd be able to cock it. Once it breaks in, it's awesome.
I appreciate you watching and thanks for the very informative comments. The Hammers airgun scopes are a pretty good value and they seem to hold up. :)
Evergreen - Why in the world would you shoot a Robin? Why not shoot an invasive pest species instead? Clown!
Awesome review! Thanks for putting this up and your no BS, honest opinions on various aspects of this rifle.
Appreciate you watching and my goal is to release a new video every Friday!
Professional approach, concise and informative. Look forward to the next review.
1:16 You said it was a non-adjustable objective, but I have the same gamo and can adjust mine. It's on the opposite side and have to unscrew the stopper before adjusting it, then you screw the stopper back in and boom!
Love that dont ever shoot anything unless your going to eat it.
True hunters way.
What about shooting rats & other pests?
With the exception of pest control.
Pigeons again and again. ...
@@BelloBudo007 do you eat them???ahahahahaha
On the other hand, something is going to eat it, so it can be looked at as a "soup kitchen" for the wild. hehe
I modified the rail immediately. It's just weird. Nice channel, good review. Good delivery. Thanks. Subbed.
Thanks for watching 👍
The pellet that I am using for the Gamo Swarm Magnum is H&N FTT 14.66gr....head size 5.55mm of which I have no problems loading a pellet into the mag....I replaced the 6mm screw of the second stage with a 8mm screw that I screwed in all the way...I now have a much shorter second stage pull....This is a very powerful rifle
I bought 1 when first came out $350. I love it. I can plink a 18 x 18 window at 160yrds. Hit 18 times out of 20 shots, factory scope. I got about 5 different pellets. I forgot which one is the best. But it depends on the distance. 43yrds it love the cheap crossman
Anytime a pellet gun likes the cheap pellets that is such a bonus!! Thanks for watching!
@@AirgunDetectives I got another scope that came in a package deal from Airgun Depot. What is that shock scope rail & where did U find it? I barely shoot it now in the alley. People was taking my targets & dumping trash where I keep it clean to shoot at safely with dirt hill back stop
@@rellmonger7935 That is a Bullseye scope mount by Diana. Looks on the net, they occasionally are on sale.
What scope do use on the 22 magnum, .want to by the trigger upgrade. Aug.7 2023
Very thorough & comprehensive review. Keep em coming....
Thank you for watching and your comments are appreciated 👍
I’d love to upgrade the scope on my Gamo Swarm Shadow, but there’s so many to choose from. Nice review 🤘🏿
I Purchased the bull’s-eye rail what scope do you or anybody recommend for it that will fit
Do you have a link to the scope and rail you are using? Looking to upgrade my scope.. Thanks for the great reviews.
Here is the mount amzn.to/3ml5mUw
and this is the scope amzn.to/37jLm0x
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@@AirgunDetectives Thank You Sir!
Just bought one very powerful.i have 22 and 177 swarm but always wanted this gun for it's power
It's a lot of fun! Thanks for watching 👍
When is gamo going to come out with 2000 fpe
@@darrenbeller5440there is the Umarex Hammer .50 cal that puts out about 1000 FPE! Unfortunately, it is not backyard friendly!
Like your channel and I subscribed 💚 I own about 15 break barrels and this rifle is the king of cocking effort💙 not difficult for me because I take regular trips to the gym but I would say at least 60 lbs. And this is my favorite 😍
Thanks for watching! Look for a new review every Friday morning!
I see you getting a bunch more subscribers ❤️
Yes...keep them coming👍
Don't think the Gamo Swarm Magnum is 60lbs of cocking effort, the Gamo Magnum 22 is 49lbs clocked in by Kenny Kormandy, in time after shooting so many pellets down the barrel of the Gamo Swarm Magnum it gets abit easier, after that it feels like 35lbs. The most accurate pellet it likes is Air Arms 16gr
Best advice dontshoot anything unless you gonna eat it.. did you modify tje diana recoil? Or is it out of the box. Thank you
I owned THE GAMO .177 version of The Swarm Maxim , and I was pretty pleased with it ... but This Monster here seems more like My speed
Thanks for watching and I appreciate your comments 👍
I shoot with a gsmp swarm maxim .22 customized stock. And trigger work... I do a lot of pest control... I don't eat house sparrows, or rock chucks...lol.. but I do cook squirrels, pigeon breasts, and rabbit... I do a lot of custom work on Gamos for my friends.. I l9ve the JSB Hades 15.89 grain. As well as there 18.1 grain ... I have several Gamo guns, as well as a couple PCP.. each had it benefits, likes, dislikes.. nice video by the way..Good luck shooting with it... 😉
Thanks for watching and I appreciate your comments 👍
Great review, thank you! Sorry for the question-the difference between a shrouded and unshrouded barrel is?
I do not have anyone local that carries these so I will have to know what to order.
The Muzzle break or "Silencer" looking object is at the end of the barrel. It does quiet the rifle and makes a great handle for cocking the rifle.
Yeah I just got this gun and its wicked..anyone looking for power and accuracy this gas magnum has it..like he said cocking it is a workout..specially new out of the box..if anyone wants to know H&N crow magnums,Baracuda hunter extreme, Gamo Red fires and Crosman hollow point 14.3..these all shot really well with my particular rifle..and actually 4 or 5 more still weren't bad but they performed the best..if you thinking about getting it Amazon has a good price on it now..thanks for the detailed video.i think I'll invest in your optic set up..the recoil is tremendous..this is like my 7th Gamo..I love them all..although after firing this the others feel like peashooters..do you have the whisper fusion mach one..22 cal..its a real nice gun also..got some power to it..
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Sir,
Out of all the Gamo rifles, which one is your favorite?
Really good reviews you make! Honestly! Cheers!👍🍻
Thank you! Happy New Year!😉👍
Happy new 2021! Hopefully this year will be better!
THE ULTIMATE SHTF AIR RIFLE !!!
Has there been a hint on what Gamo has new for 2021...is there going to be another upgrade on the Gamo Swarm Magnum maybe a Gen3... 25 caliber would be wonderful?
I wouldn't expect much. Covid-19 has the companies working at a pretty slow pace. I haven't heard much and shotshow 2021 is canceled so there is no sneak preview.
@@AirgunDetectives It is not a cold virus that considers our free market business "non-essential". That attack on our free market comes from the ideologies of marxism.
thanks for the review. I like the Gamo Magnum
I tried H&N FTT 14.66gr,
the pellet would go in
but I had to push it down with a pencil for the mag to rotate
, Air Arms 16gr I have no problems...
That is strange...the 14.66 go in real easy in my magazines. I did have some issues when I first got the gun with the magazines in that there was not enough spring tension on them. I very carefully removed the small Phillips screw and put a couple of more turns on the spring. They have been flawless ever since. But I did not have an issue with the FTT 14.66 seating. My Maxim loves the Benjamin Destroyers .22 but I need a pellet seater with those...
what head size of the H&N FTT 14.66gr
@@zome53 These are the Dome H&N Field Target Trophy 14.66 gr 5.53 per my Digital Caliper. I tried several cans they are all the same. I purchased these over a year ago. Are your pellets newer? Maybe a different lot?
Yes the H&N FTT 5.53mm
are new
Excellent review. Enjoyed the honesty. I got my eyes on one of those, if i can get one in South Africa.
Thank you for watching and I appreciate your comments.😉👍
Do you use any kind of lube for the bullseye zr mount.
Those are the same pellets I feed my Swarm Maxim. Good pellets. I need to research that bullseye mount... that doesn’t offset your scope when it moves like that? Would you put the bullseye on all your break barrels?
Not at all...Keeps zero regardless of the recoil. Designed for the heavy recoil air rifles...Thanks for watching!
Good content m8. I’ve been thinking about getting that rifle, I like the idea of the 10 shot magazine but I do love my Diana 350 NTec, that rifle is a real tack driver. Eat what you shoot doesn’t apply to the rats 🐀 I was shooting the other day but the odd bunny 🐰 now and again is all good for the dinner table
55 lb cocking effort. if this dude is having a hard time with this gamo i dont even want to know what thats like.
trying to decide between this, the fusion gen 2, and maxxim. First air rifle for me and only intend to use for target practice up to 100 yards max. Your advice is appreciated. Thanks for the great video!
I have the most fun, especially for plinking and target practice with the Maxxim Swarm, if you like a magazine. They are really east to cock 27-30 lbs. They shoot realistically 700 fps with a 14.0 gr pellet. The .177 are good with a heavy pellets but it's much more practical to go with the .22 caliber. I will be releasing a video on the Bone Collector Swarm soon. Basically the key for ultimate accuracy on the Gamos is the upgraded trigger screw and bipods.👍
So you’d advise maxxim over the fusion? Definitely going with .22 either way
@@gracenick9788 same velocity either way. It depends of you want to shoot open sights. You can only use a scope with the Maxxim.
Good point, going with Fusion then, thanks!
Last week my shots were all over the place I figured it was the baffle , I took off the round plastic piece at the end of the barrel, I pulled out the baffle it was broken into two pieces so the pellet was hitting the baffle then exited out of the end of the barrel, I left it out my shots were spot on, this also happened to someone else that made a comment on Amazon about the Gamo Swarm Magnum. I might purchase a suppressor and put it on I can't see putting another baffle that is cheap looking not much to it
That can happen, the pellets were hitting the plastic baffle. Remember Gamo has a 5 year warranty on that model. Not sure if they can send you a new piece or they may want the rifle. I would call Gamo.
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Hey great videos I'm new to air guns and I just bought my firs gamo swarm magnum gen 2 thanks to your videos I really appreciate it. I got 2 questions what scope do you recommend?
And what non-lead pellet do you recommend also I'm pretty good with my rifle but I want a better scope for turkey hunting (I eat everything I kill)
Awesome i just got one cant wait to try it out
do you start shooting straight out of the box? or clean barrel etc
Try the crossmam diamond back. Would love to see the review.
Great video, much respect , i appreciate the warning about eat what you hunt,thats awesome dude. im going to pick one up.
Thanks for watching and I appreciate your comments 🙂
Please do a review on the HW98 which I think is the best break barrel there is.
I have 2 of them and I will eventually 👍😉
@@AirgunDetectives Excellent, I hope to see the review. I have four Springers (HW95, 97, 98 and AA Pro Sport) but find the HW98 light and accurate enough to use for HFT competition in the UK.
@@Happy-Me. the 98's are my favorite Breakbarrels. I have a .25 and .177 fully tuned.
Nice review, thanks for the information. I just got into break barrel airguns, and i heard you say never pull the trigger without a pellet in the barrel. I did not know that, and have cleaned the barrel two or three times and dry fired it. Could I have damaged the gun??
That is a general rule and it should not hurt the rifle if it unintentionally happen a few times. Gamo claims there rifles can be dry fired. The reason it could do damage is break barrels use a piston to create air pressure in the chamber. When the rifle is cock the piston is pushed backwards toward the trigger and catches on the sear. The spring or gas piston is fully compressed. Once you pull the trigger the sear is released and the piston is violently thrown forward into the air chamber which creates the high pressure. The pressure builds within a fraction of a second and forces the pellet out of the barrel. If you dry fire the rifle there is no pellet to create that back pressure and the piston impacts much harder into the front of the air chamber. That all being said I had a Gamo 220 hunter, spring piston and I dry fired that many times with no issues. I just wouldn't make a habit out of it because it could do some potential harm or cause the piston seal to wear out prematurely. Thanks for watching!
I would like to know about of the Swarm Magnum and the Hatsan 125 + 22 which one of the two is better than you think
JF point Blank good question
If you get shots off faster technically the swarm is more power ful
Can I get more specifics on the shock absorbing mounting system for the scope? I own a GAMO Swarm Maxxim -& it'd really help in keeping-up my dope!😼
I will get more into the Bullseye mount for you when I review one of my Diana rifles in the future. In fact I have a new mount on back-ordered. Thank you for watching!👍
The Gamo RRR thing is a joke, doesn't absorb recoil at all.
The Diana mount works, and surprisingly it holds zero, just be careful tightening it up. I would actually recommend lapping the rings on it if the scope is an expensive one though, it will ensure perfect fit. Don't tighten the rings down much, I would go the minimum recommended torque, probably under 20 inch pounds. The scope won't move back in the rings on the Diana mount because it completely eliminates recoil, so no use risking scope damage from over tightening.
Gamo for the win!!!👍🏻👍🏻🔥
Great information.What kind of scope is that on that weapon?And where did you buy that bullseye mount?
Hi Rodney, that is a UTG 4-16x44 AO SWAT AccuShot Rifle Scope, EZ-TAP, Illuminated Mil-Dot Reticle, 1/4 MOA, 30mm Tube. This is also their "TS" True Strength platform which can stand up to heavy recoil. The Bullseye mount is made by Diana, look for the best price on the internet. Thanks for watching!
@@AirgunDetectives Thank you young man.
Can a Donnty FL suppressor be mounted without too much hassle?
What are the best pellets for penetration in the Gamo Magnum? Will it fit the crosman penetrator? Need something that'll penetrate a raccoon skull at 20 to 50 yards.
You need to look at accuracy first. The style of pellets don't make a significant difference as far a hunting. You need to look for most FPE and accuracy combined. Each rifle is specific. The FTT 14.66 worked the best in mine but you might have different results with your rifle.
@@AirgunDetectives do you know if the magazine will hold the crosman power penetrators? Or is it too small.
@@swampratsrants501 the magazine holds the JSB 18.13 gr, which is a long pellet, so off hand I would think so. Not sure how accurate they would be.
@@AirgunDetectives ty
I see what you mean about accuracy now.
Been using the latest Walmart exclusive Ruger impact Max elite with Gamo rockets and crosman premier hollow points, some of which are customized, and never had much of a problem hitting a large raccoon head at 20 yards or maintaining decent grouping on Targets.
Then I tried using ruger's cheapest pellets at Walmart. Maybe they will shoot straighter out of the swarm Magnum. Got a great deal and I'll be picking one up in a few days. Hope that experimental loading mechanism doesn't bust too soon. There's been quite a few editions of the mechanism from Gamo over the years and they've yet to patent it. So good luck to us both on that.
Hi , im from italy and congrats for your videos , very nice.
Please can i ask you what is the transfer port size in millimeters for this gun ? Thanks tuo very much
Great review. I suspect by adding a heavier scope and areas where weight can be added (be creative) the groupings "should tighten up...Personally I only have a Gamo Accu. 22 and it is the most accurate springer I own. I have many "vintage Beemans" R1s, R10s, R9s break barrels and still even with the great Rekord trigger, I still am unable to consistantly get an honest hole in one 5 shot groups out to 35 yards which I can with the Accu .22. I can only imagine if it had a Rekord or AirArms trigger in it..While not to highjack your post on my opinions on fpe. My Accu .22 sits by door my door as a go to gun. And I have such high confidence in knowing where my mildots are set. All normal airgun game is in danger out to 60 yards away. And my 18-30fpe airguns mainly stay in the safe. I turned down my "vintage" Beeman Crow magnum to around 15fpe, which initially came fully pressurized at around 30fpe. The Theoben H.E. air piston was great, you could turn down the air piston (which came maxed out per Beeman standards) but could easily be tuned down to mitigate hold sensitivity and then able to apply bar pressure with the little hand held pump it came with. I never did need to add more air...Would be nice if newer air pistons made it simple to de-tune or add air, without taking stock off. It definitely can be done. It seems at least with mechanical and air/gas pistons the one's shooting around 14-16fpe at the muzzle offer plenty of power for airgun game, so long as you can judge ranges and have a good mildotted scope. If it was easier to market accuracy, then fpe that would be a good thing. The company's seem to be marketing to the first time buyers, we are on to their over inflated rates, less forgiving hold due to the science of recoil? Old timers know the physics that are involved in achieving high fps, and know the negative side effects, so market to us!! I can shoot good groups with my "kickers" but everything needs to line up perfectly to get off that perfect hold, especially in hunting situations. Make some more 14-16fpe breakers/underlevers! The "chart" that says how much fpe is required to humanely take an animal, really doesn't mean much. I have defied it many times. What is required is confidence in what you are shooting, will hit where your aiming.....
I couldn't agree more. You can have all the FPE in the world but if you are not accurate with the gun it means nothing. I appreciate you watching and thanks for the comments. I have an ACCU in .22 as well. I added my trigger screw and even a second screw in the SAT trigger to adjust the first stage. I even have a gas piston kit for it but I just haven't had the time to install it.
Do you think a 6-24x50 mm scope would be too big with the Diane ZR mount on that gun ?
No.. it should work..the scope I used on the Gamo was pretty long. The mount works on both 30mm and 1" scope diameter. Let me know how it works out.👍
Nope! I have a discovery vt-t 6-24x50 on my swarm magnum and it is DEADLY ACCURATE out to 100 plus yards.
How about the GAMO .22 GEN2 vs the HATSAN 125 SNIPER .22. Which is the most powerful?? Thanks
I really appreciate your multiple tests regarding this gun. Maybe add a dB test as well.
Anyway, I was wondering if you could make any recommendation(s) on multi shot break barrel .22s other than this guy. I'd primarily be hunting with it, and I also value a gun that is NOT hold sensitive. Right now, this guy is at the top of the list, but I'm open to suggestions. Thanks again, just subbed!
what scope can I get that will hold up long term.i can handle the cocking effort as I'm a fairly strong guy.i just dont want to waste my time with crap scopes
Great video! To the point and very good information. I'm subscribing!
Richard..Thanks for watching and we appreciate the feedback!👍
Very nice review I'm about to purchase that Diane ZR scope mount for my Gamo Magnum what size scope are you using ?
UTG 4-16x44 side focus and it is their "TS" True Strength platform. Thanks for watching!👍
Wait for mine. All back order
There appears to be a supply chain issue with airguns as well...😉👍
What is that scope mount you have that is absorbing the shock ? Do you have a link to it ?
The mount is made by Diana it is a Bullseye ZR.
@@AirgunDetectives what size scope are you using in this video ?
The locking wedge on mine was tearing up the breech seal. Did your gun have any indication of that?
No...I had no issues with mine. It has a good warranty send it back 😉👍
@@AirgunDetectives got it at a pawn shop. Just filed the wedge and flipped the seal. Kinda bummed cause the swarm system is denting the pellet skirts so i took it off. Im getting half inch groups at 15 yards so id hate to take it back.
LOVEEEE your video. Very well shown of what the gun can do. What scope do you use if you don't mind me asking?
That is a UTG 4-16x44 AO SWAT AccuShot Rifle Scope, EZ-TAP, Illuminated Mil-Dot Reticle, 1/4 MOA, 30mm Tube. Mounted on a Diana Bullseye recoil absorbing scope mount. Thanks for watching!
Another important factor with the UTG scope is you need the "TS" True Strength rating to stand up to the reverse recoil on these break barrel rifles.
@@AirgunDetectives Sweet thank you for your fast reply. I love your set up ill have to look into it ;)
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Well John I bought one online basspro. Cud have got 177 but got 22. I have 2 177 clips for gen 2 magnum. But from gamo $17.40
You make it look easier than 50lbs How is it vs Hatsan 125 22 cal. About the same.
I get a little better muzzle velocity out of the old version prior to the swarm and the suppressor. I think both of those decrease output slightly. I have got better then 1600 fps with the .177 model shooting Red Rockets on the original Magnum.
I really think it depends on the specific rifle and how smooth the air chamber is as well as the piston seal. I have tuned several and seen an increase in velocity on most. It sounds like you got a good one!👍
What is the brand of the scope? Thanks great video
UTG 4-16x44 side focus and it is their "TS" True Strength platform. Thanks for watching!👍
Love your videos, I'm having alot of issues getting this dialed in. I've only shot about 50 rounds through it. It groups great with GTO pellets and gamo fire. 20 yards you can cover 3 shots with a dime. I can't get it on the bullseye or even as close as you are any ideas?
Go to my website and read the article I recently posted on Breaking-in your new Breakbarrel. www.airgundetectives.com All my .22 cal Magnums love the H&N Sport FTT 14.66 gr pellets.
Great video with lots of information about this gun so it will be my next one to buy, as for the recoil reducing mounts yes i bought one too. I dont know but it works well for me but is it worth 60 bucks i dont know. I found one at half the price same design but it came to me all wanky crooked but i got it fixed up i had to loosen the rail screws and kinda twist it back to level so its good now it seems to be the same mount but without the branding name on it but anyway i like it.
What is the best and most accurate airgun to buy for hunting birds at long distances?
Can you run a comparison test betwn the .22 Gamo Magnum and the .22 Gamo Magnum swarm or post if you have results? Thank you
I have the Gamo Magnum and the Gamo Swarm Magnum, they both have the same power, the Gamo Magnum has more cocking effort.
Great videos, keep it up.
Thanks Travis, appreciate you watching!👍
I see you have another great video I am on the same level that you are on I prefer break barrel I have a hatsan 125 sniper vortex gas piston in 22 cal and I luv it but I wanna interested in another break barrel I was looking into getting another hatsan 125 but have my eyes on this as well which one you go with out of these two gun gor hunting purposes only and again great video
Hatsan makes some great guns. I have at least 15 of them if not more. I will be doing a review of all three calibers in the 125 sniper models. Thanks for watching !👍
If the magazine should break or cease to function can it be removed and continue to use the rifle as a single shot break barrel?
Yes, you could remove the magazine and assembly then load it like a conventional break barrel.
Hello, where can I buy an antirecoil mount?
The ones out there are not very good. The Bullseye mounts are just ok. I hope to have my own new design recoil mount out sometime next year. Still in the R&D stages.
hello, what is the difference between
Gamo Reply 10x Magnum .22 gen2 and
Gamo Swarm 10x Magnum .22 gen2
I put my scope on today but hate the cocking effort and it doesnt seem to be going down. Buyers remorse times 5000
Technique is key. You get used to it and it feels like nothing.
Don't use the scope without that Diana mount. You'll be lucky of you get through two cans of pellets before the scope is completely trashed.
Hey what scope do you think would go best with this gamo swarm magnum. I do have the zr 1bullseye mount already just trying to get advice on a decent scope that's AO. And thanks for the great videos.
Maybe a Hawke? That's what I'm getting. I currently run a Zerotech Thrive which is nice for the money, but don't do what I did and run it on a Gamo magnum with no ZR mount. It nearly destroyed the scope but I took it off in time and had to remove the zoom ring and tighten the screws that hold the eye bell on because it was wobbling. The scope walked back in the Sportsmatch rings, and the stop pin deformed and rode up over the stop pin hole and munched the scope rail. ZR mount is the only solution that actually works with these magnum springers.
I am having a choice choose between the hatsan 135 in 22cal and this gamo swarm magnum which one would you recommend for serious hunting
I will do a ballistic and FPE comparison between the 135 and the Gamo magnum. They are both really good for hunting. I do like the Gamo 10 shot magazine and it weighs less. But you get a beautiful walnut stock and adjustable check rest with the 135. You can't go wrong either way.
I see u have the magnum version, I have the regular but shoots hard. Est 700 fps w 14.3?????
Great video!
Have you noticed any difference in power between this and the non-swarm magnum?
Do they seem to have the same chamber size?
Really appreciate your feedback
It is basically the same gun. It has a non-shrouded barrel and the stock is a bit different. The the FPE is pretty much the same. It does seem a bit more difficult to cock because there is nothing to grip but the plain barrel. I will do a video on that in the future. Thank you for watching 👍
I hear horrible things about that mount you are using. How many rounds do you have through the rifle with that on?
I have about 1500 rounds through the mount so far and it is holding at zero. I purchased a couple of after market, picatinny non-branded similar type, and they didn't last 100 rounds. I have four of the ZR mounts and I have not had an issue yet. If something changes I will bring it up in a future video.
Can you do the rws diana 350 magnum or the 460 magnum please
Good review as usual.
i have 2 gamo rifles, both 22, the original magnum and the swarm maxxim, i have the hatsan carnivore 30 cal and a weihrauch hw50s in 22,, my next rifle will be the weihrauch 95l in 22
Where can I find that scope and scope mount?
Look online..Scope is a UTG 4-16 x44 Side focus, 30 mm diameter. The mount is the Diana Bullseye. Look for SLAES. :)
I have found that the Bulls Eye ZR mount is about as repeatable as a broken scope.
Could u all do a review on the benjamin all weather trail please
I do have a .177 XL and I will get to that. Thanks for watching!!
I have the magnum .22 and it has 3-9×40 scope. It works great
do you review pistols much? just subbed and thumbs - up, be strong, be safe, and be blessed
Hi Russ, yes I try to do a pistol review every couple of weeks. As summer approaches I'll do a lot of Co2 pistols. Thanks for watching, stay Healthy!👍
I have that one too... it's my favorite
Please enlighten me. I shoot a .300 Weatherby magnum and have never lost a scope because of recoil. Why is recoil such an issue with this air rifle?
Because a powder burner rifle recoil pushes in one direction. Magnum springgun not only pushes back but the reverse recoil when the piston slams into compression tube is so harsh it can even make the scope slide through the rings. And walk on the mount. It's kinda like an impact gun movement, but a back and forth. To include vibrations. It will certainly trash most normal scopes.
I actually explain that in some of the videos. What you have in a breakbarrel rifle is a "Reverse" recoil. When you cock the rifle it compresses the spring or gas piston and it engages the sear which locks it in place until you pull the trigger. Once the trigger is pulled, the sear releases the piston which actually goes forward and impacts into the front end of the air chamber, compressing the air to force the pellet out of the barrel, the piston then bounces back after that impact. Most traditional scopes for centerfire rifles are designed for a rear recoil. The break barrels have almost a double recoil in that the gun is thrown forward and then backwards. Most scopes are not built for that forward or "Reverse" recoil. Trust me I have destroyed many. I hope that answers your question and thanks for watching!!!
Thank you for the explanation. Excellent video!
@@AirgunDetectives Hello AD. I first saw the question from yeahitsme210 I was to reply,but you did so for me. Good explanation. That is almost word for word i would have explained.. However there can be a "third recoil" on a magnum spring or gas ram. If you use a heavy pill,any case,say a JSB .22 cal 18.13grn, or a JSB Jumbos 25.39 grn you will get another "slight" recoil as the pellet or what ever you shoot will give you a slight "push" as it wants to exit in a hurry.. This was explained to me by a "pcp" airgun. I was told to dry fire the gun with out a pill. It was safe to do so. It made a very loud bang more than I expected,but not much of a recoil. Then loaded a 230 grn lead slug and I got a recoil of about my .308. So yes, believe there can be a exit recoil from a strong breakbarrel air gun. Oh My pcp is Hatsan Hercules .454 caliber.. Yes it is heavy,bulky,but is strong enough for and exceeds my requirements..
@@capesquirtGreat info... Thanks for watching and I appreciate your feedback!!👍
I just got this and can't get the scope to zero. I got it in at about 25ft but when I moved it further out to 150ft its very inconsistent. I'm thinking I need to up grade the scope. What would you recommend putting on it that won't be too expensive
The scopes that come with those rifles need to be sighted in at about 20-25 yards. Your point of am will change depending on how close or far you are from tour target. That's why a mil-dot reticle works well because your can adjust your aim using the mildots. These are pretty good amzn.to/2WTn7QA
The stock scope on the stock rail won't hold zero under this thing's insane recoil. It will get destroyed. Get a good scope and definitely get a Diana ZR Mount. It's the only way a scope can survive on this thing.
A other guy did a review and shot at two inch targets 100 yards away and hit with the stock scope.
How much price of air gun of a gamo air gun?
Would you recommend the Magnum or Maxxim for a female who is squirrel hunting?
Hi Jennifer...They both would be very effective but the Maxxim is a much easier cocking effort, around 30lbs. The Magnum is more difficult to cock around 50lbs. You do get more FPE out of the Magnum but the Maxxim still has plenty of FPE for small game hunting or pest control. Thank you for watching👍
Airgun Detectives thanks for responding! I was thinking the magnum might be too hard to cock. Thanks again!