Morning Andy, the motoring reference is more a nod to the bikes they produced, just like the Lightning. Great review and I look forward to seeing more from the new channel. 👍👍👍
I was really intrigued by multi shot break barrels! Until I got one and destroyed the mag...now I wished it was a single shot Anyway I need to seat half of the pellet types by hand to not destroy the breech seal {Gen1 got replaced by store warranty after failure} I do like it when it works tho 😁
Really? what kind of ammo did you use that the breech seal? If they are really that delicate I would rather have a signal shot rifle too I think. I just bought a Gen 2 but I can return it before I use it too much
@@scottatlas7359 mine was a .177 gen1 but "Airsoft brodie" had a simmilar issue with a .22 gen3 gamo 10x! Hopefully you wont have issues with it but I wished I kept it single shot The pellet probe is not pushing all of them pellets far enough and the breech seal being on the transfert port side if it does happen good chance are the pellet skirt will rub against the rubber o-ring Bonus; Ive tested my two canadian detuned Gamo rifles today wich are rated to 495fps (limit with no permit) And they barely hitted 400 fps! My worst detuned crosman ever wich I abused was still pushing 450fps I like a few things about Gamo (Light stock..breech chamfer...) but my luck with them is not making me an happy camper... Some people do like them alot tho!
You should use splatter targets. Easier to see where you're hitting. I'm 65 and my eyes aren't what they used to be. Just a thought from one of your countless subscribers. 😀😀
if that is a thumbhole stock ,what is then a pistolgrip stock? a thumbhole stock is a different design, gamo does have also a gen 3 announced. i saw somewhere on the tube. a sidellever would be very handy on the bench
Good morning Andy, how are you ? . These are 2 fabulous rifles . As you say, very clever how it loads 👌. The rifles are great all rounders . And Good pricing. Thanks for your hard work this week ! . Have a fab weekend 😀. Cheers Simon from York
These are great rifles! You can wonder how much difference it is to insert a pellet yourself then loading it from the magazine but it is so much more easy. There is one extra thing to keep in mind when shooting these, make sure you are not dry firing them but as well that you don't double load them. When you broke the barrel and not taking the shot directly you "forgot" and break the barrel again adding an extra pellet in the barrel. This is now solved with the new inertial magazines from Gamo. These where only available on the Replay 10x Magnum but with the Gen3 now being announced (Speedster Gen3) they seem to come with the inertial magazine as well. This magazine will only rotate to the next pellet after the rifle is actually fired. Thanks Andy for the video and good shooting.
I've always been a pcp enthusiast only ever owning one break barrel when I was a child. Upon seeing this and other reviews next payday I am so getting this rifle!
I purchased it about a year ago, in .22. I can nail a quarter at 25/30 yards no problem. It's great for backyard plinking or pest control at that range and still has pretty good knock down power beyond that if you can hit it. It took care of a pesty raccoon with one well placed shot. As you probably already know; it's in a different category than a pcp but the challenge makes up for it and it's a lot of fun. One word of advice; clean the barrel first!!!! It comes all gummed up with shipping anti-rust stuff. Enjoy!!!!
@@geedub7912 thanks for the info and advice. Unfortunately for us folk across the pond we're restricted to sub 12 ft lbs/16 Joules of muzzle energy unless you have a fire arms licence so I'll be going for the .177 since it has a flatter pellet trajectory and with the right pellets .177 is more suitable than .22 at this muzzle energy. I've owned many a pcp rifle over the year's, but only have my trusty BSA Scorpion SE and my Umarex Reign at the moment, oh and my POS Nova Vista neupump. The Scorpion is accurate but the Reign is on another level! I get head shot on Rabbit out at 50 to 60 yards without even trying it's that accurate! And the Nova, well, it's a paperweight. Also been eyeing the Evanix AR6K
I recently bought a Roadster and within 30 shots fired the mechanism which works the magazine became unlinked. I took it back to the seller who quickly corrected the fault and I returned home with it.Within another 50 shots fired it became unlinked twice. I followed the procedure the seller had done but I was not happy about continuing with using it. I’m returning it to the seller who has accepted my return. I checked with another well known Air gun retailer who said “. I have stopped selling that particular model
They look OK but how long will the plastic last will it get to the point were it wears out and the rifle become a wall hanger and a good warranty but it's all ways the same warranty runs out and the problems start sorry not for me the only good bit was the barrel made by Bsa .When bsa made there own rifles the made a spring rifle and it was fed by a magazine and it worked well but try and find one and the price will be a very high price
I have the 4.5 swarm maxim speed 10 1rst gen and it's a brilliant break barrel , and oh so acurate once scope is zeroed in, and the scope is realy good too and so crystal clear, personally I prefer the 1rst gen and my next one will be the 22 magnum 10 shot 👍
I like your reviews as it is usually simple, but thorough. This time you failed to mention three attributes: 1) The scope mount has a patented "shock wave reducer" to protect the scope against the harmful effects of the springer action. 2) I believe these models have been fitted with the new "gass springs" and no longer have a physical coiled spring, which means it can be stored loaded without harm to the spring. 3) The gen 2 magazine has a built in mechanism that will only load the next pellet if the previous one had been fired, so no double loading possible anymore. Kindly pardon my terminology as it may not be the same as used by Gamo, but the meaning is the same.
the mags on these dont have that mechanism to prevent double loading,that is only on the magnum gen 2 which i dont think is even available in the UK and the new gen 3i models which also are not yet available in the UK and these are spring not gas ram.
I am 77 years and I have given up using my other guns because my shot guns ruin my shoulder for about 4 days now and my hand guns hurt my wrist for about the same amount of time. I ran across your channel and behold a light went off in my pea size brain that why not get into air rifles. I hand a Daisy pump rifle as a kid the more I pumped it the more powerful the out going pellet went. Are these the same or do they need just one break to get the max fps from them. Thank You and I subscribed to your channel
Had a look at these last friday at VA but settled on the gen 1 barracade as I prefered the style and grip. Might get one of these in the future, as I'm a fan of Gamo rifles and have never had a single issue with them and the supplied scope is surprisingly clear, making it useable right out of the box, which makes it cheaper than a lot of rifles that have a slightly lower price tag but no included scope.
Hi Andy and Mrs aar you are doing beautiful job sir and madam, i hope Mrs aar will start shooting more air rifles and maybe show us men up, it would be nice to see family's shooting at air rifle clubs and maybe one day hope they get into the competition shooting league in uk as well as other countries, please carry on with both your TH-cam channels andy and Mrs aar, you are education us and informing us on what new items that is coming out thank both of you and the team as well
i would assume the speedster and roadster names like the star names are simply gammo dellving into the old BSA gun/bike names bag, a way of instilling their new product with nostalgia, the same way Triumph motorcyces keep relaunching Tigers, Daytonas and Bonnevilles that have little to do with the classics, if you own the name why not flog it to death. save having to come up with something new, regardless how good the product !
One note should be made about the triggers on these air rifles. You can remove the trigger adjustment spring and add a 3-4mm longer one to remove the first stage and drop the pull pressure 1-2 lbs. Make a huge difference in reducing pulled shots.
I plan on doing this mod. Seems quite useful and makes perfect sense. I have an air venturi bullpup avenger. Found removing three tiny washers on the first stage of the trigger allows much less unnecessary extra play. These small mods are so helpful! Thanks!
I've got a Gamo Speedster Gen 2 (in .22) and it's a brilliant air rifle except for the fact that it comes with a stupid fake muzzle break. Another thing that annoyed me when I first got it was the scope - it just didn't work for me so I got rid of it and stuck a Gamo red dot sight on it which has been better than a scope so far. Also I think the Gamo Speedster Gen 2s were supposed to be gas ram (?) and mine for some reason was a Springer despite the fact I ordered it brand new (about £220). Also the "inbuilt suppressor" clearly doesn't work simply because it's a barrel shroud.
Another great review , even so i purchased a Gamo swarm from Vector air after your last review and i have to say its rubbish, not having a go at you, i love your videos,, buts its loud, its horrible to cock and only ok accuracy , it was a waste of money already confined to the back corner of the basement, compared to a SMK gas ram which is far nicer
Thanks for your nice in-depth reviews! Just bought the Gamo IGT Swarm Magnum Pro 10X Gen3i in .22. I'm very pleased with it, shooting narrow groups at 15 to 50 meters. Been plinking for fun in my garden a lot and doing some decent pest control by killing a lot of rats lately. I got the IGT uncapped version, as there's luckily no restriction on any type of airguns at all in The Netherlands.😀 BTW this .22 has loads of power and is capable of shooting straight through my 2cm thick garden fence as I found out when my neighbors told me why there suddenly peepholes appeared in our garden fence 🤭 The main reason for buying a break-barrel is that you don't need compressors, scuba diving tanks or high-powered hand pumps to shoot an air gun wherever I would like to go.
Got the Gamo swarm maxim elite last year. 1st time I've done any real plinking since our house got burgled when I was about 12 yrs old when they took my Webley Vulcan & my dad's BSA Airsporter... 30 yrs ago. Was extremely happy with my new purchase and although not used through winter at all, I did put about 1000 pellets through it between August & October! (me and my nephew) The magazine system adds a whole new dimension of fun for airgun break barrel shooting in my opinion. Looking forward to getting out when the time is right over next few weeks. I found it accurate, (10 shots in an inch at 20 yards, the occasional flyer,may have been the pellets or me) consistent , hits quite hard. If I had a complaint then the trigger is perhaps half a pound, maybe a full pound heavier than what I would consider perfect for me, though in fairness I haven't as yet tinkered/adjusted it & read somewhere it can be adjusted quite a bit (or quite a lot by replacing a standard screw for a longer one), so as yet is perhaps an unfair criticism if it has the potential for adjustment! Good fun for certain!
I've had my Maxim Gen 2 about a month. My only complaint is it's not nearly as accurate as I hoped. I also have a Hatsan MOD 25 break barrel pistol . Using the Hatsan factory supplied iron sights I can hit a little better at the same distance (105 feet) than I can hit with the Maxim with it's factory supplied scope. I think if I could find a peep sight for the pistol I could hit a little better than with the factory sights. And I've tried several different brands and weights of pellets in the Maxim. My Maxim is a real disappointment. If you get one I hope yours works a lot better than mine.
Just bought one in .177 caliber and while sighting it in I couldn’t adjust the scope. Called Gamo and they have another scope on the way free without returning the original. No iron sights can be fitted to the scope version I have according to Gamo. I only mention that because I’m told that the scopes really take a pounding from the spring piston action and don’t last long. I can’t imagine that Gamo will keep replacing scopes free every time they fail. So an iron sight backup would be nice but then the 10 round magazine would have to be moved ??? Who designs these things anyway? And it’s not as quiet as I was lead to believe. I guess the other Gamo models are much louder. 🙉
An American reviewer (Dr Russ?) on youtube said there was a problem with the pellets "jumping" out of the Mag on this Horizontal version of this rifle.
Andy any chance of a review of the ATA Airborne in the future its a budget pcp and i have seen some good reviews would love to know what you think. Regards
Surprising enough my birthday is coming up and I was interested in buying an airgun to take over the duties I use my Benjamin Prowler with. I LIKE the Benjamin and have used it plenty BUT the trigger is really only comparable to draggin my truck across my gravel driveway. I've done mods that were online and that improved them but it's just tough. Do these, which appear to have the same setup, have a better trigger on them? You seem to not have problems in the video but I though I watched it yesterday I don't remember seeing a trigger weight test. These light 3.5-4 pound triggers on my Rugers have me a little spoiled.
A good review. The rifle shoots well off a tripod. however accuracy would be improved if you set the rifle down in the tripod in the same place every time, watch the position of the front stock bolt/screw moving vs tripod.
I have the Remington Tyrant as my first air rifle. Would replacing it with one of these Gamo' be worth it? I guess the scope is better than the fixed magnification on the Remington. Is this Gamo quieter that the Remington?
Morning Andy, nice rifles and a good review as usual. The only problem I can see with them is as happened with you and you don’t keep count and cock on an empty chamber. Firing a springer without a pellet in the barrel can damage the front of the piston as there is nothing to slow it down, causing it to crash against the end of the chamber. So it is very important to keep an eye on your remaining rounds. I have a Baikal IZH61 side lever spring gun which has a 5 shot magazine and at 6ftlb with a very light weight and adjustable stock makes a great little back yard plinker very suitable for teaching youngsters to shoot.
@@stanpotter7764 Yeah, No reason why they cant have a little shoulder/stop machined into the piston to stop the tip from getting damaged... have to open one up and see. \_o_/
I've always liked the look of the swarm and other variations. There were a number of reports of the scopes getting destroyed due to the recoil. At £280, think I'd put my money on the Webley nemesis X combo and have cash spare for pellets and co2.
I'm in the process of securing some pest control rights and love the look and accuracy of the Nemesis X, the only thing I'm not really convinced with it is the power output at the muzzle, and, subsequent power drop of the pellet at 25-40m. I'm hoping perhaps Vector air could tune it to get it up to around 11 ft/lbs, making me more comfortable with dropping critters. What I AM convinced on is the fact that I can't afford a PCP! lol
@@1Goldigger1 yepp... Definitely not good enough even at 15m for a clean despatch imo. Let alone at ranges further out than that, I'm guessing the velocity drop off would put it at around 5ft/lbs (maybe less) at 25-40m? I'd like to see some ballistic gel data on wound channel, penetration and energy dump at longer ranges? I can't seem to find any however?
I'm confused, here in the states the Gen 2s have been out for well over a year, probably closer to 2yrs. And I think we're supposed to get the 1600fps Gen 3s this summer. But you're talking about these like they're something new. 🤔. And that's not the most advanced Gen 2 magazine with "recoil advance" which prevents double loading. And they have a red advance button on the top.
Yep, the UK market is getting shafted, we are getting product almost 2 years after global release. It's a pisstake considering the barrels are made here.
Morning Andy, awesome review as always. Can you do a review of the weihrauch hw95 as I bought one last year and accuracy wise its absolutle fine left to right but on the vertical axis it can shoot anywhere from 1" above the target and 3" below the target, I've asked the shop where I bought it about this and he said it's just bedding in and the shots that drop are caused by lead in the barrel which I'm quiet dubious about. I expected better from a weirauch I must admit!
@@russellham2094 morning Russel, thanks for the reply, so far I have tried accupel (which both my falcons love), air arms, jsb and H&N with mostly the same results. Which pellets does your 95 like? I'll try them next!
These HATE Crosman .177 pellets! They fall out and cause dry fire along with a 4 inch shot spread. Since they were the only brand available to me I returned it frustrated and began hunting for another rifle.
My magazine won't go to correct position when the barrel is snapped leaving it to blank fire. Unless I manually move the magazine as its in motion to the correct place. Only just bought it too
I love this magazine system, remember also, it is seating the pellet exactly the same every time! Very difficult to do loading a pallet with your thumb or finger. cracking little gun.👌
Morning Andy, the motoring reference is more a nod to the bikes they produced, just like the Lightning. Great review and I look forward to seeing more from the new channel. 👍👍👍
Excellent useful video. Like any of your videos. Greetings from Nis, Serbia. 👏👍👍👍
I like your shooting Bench. What brand is it?
I was really intrigued by multi shot break barrels!
Until I got one and destroyed the mag...now I wished it was a single shot
Anyway I need to seat half of the pellet types by hand to not destroy the breech seal
{Gen1 got replaced by store warranty after failure}
I do like it when it works tho 😁
Really? what kind of ammo did you use that the breech seal? If they are really that delicate I would rather have a signal shot rifle too I think. I just bought a Gen 2 but I can return it before I use it too much
@@scottatlas7359 mine was a .177 gen1 but "Airsoft brodie" had a simmilar issue with a .22 gen3 gamo 10x!
Hopefully you wont have issues with it but I wished I kept it single shot
The pellet probe is not pushing all of them pellets far enough and the breech seal being on the transfert port side if it does happen good chance are the pellet skirt will rub against the rubber o-ring
Bonus; Ive tested my two canadian detuned Gamo rifles today wich are rated to 495fps (limit with no permit)
And they barely hitted 400 fps!
My worst detuned crosman ever wich I abused was still pushing 450fps
I like a few things about Gamo
(Light stock..breech chamfer...)
but my luck with them is not making me an happy camper...
Some people do like them alot tho!
Heavy fisted Idiot got me , LOL
Morning
You should use splatter targets. Easier to see where you're hitting. I'm 65 and my eyes aren't what they used to be.
Just a thought from one of your countless subscribers. 😀😀
if that is a thumbhole stock ,what is then a pistolgrip stock? a thumbhole stock is a different design, gamo does have also a gen 3 announced. i saw somewhere on the tube.
a sidellever would be very handy on the bench
Good morning Andy, how are you ? . These are 2 fabulous rifles . As you say, very clever how it loads 👌. The rifles are great all rounders . And Good pricing. Thanks for your hard work this week ! . Have a fab weekend 😀. Cheers Simon from York
I have a Gamo swarm whisper gen 1 and Gamo swarm magnum gen 2.. both very reliable air rifles..
These are great rifles! You can wonder how much difference it is to insert a pellet yourself then loading it from the magazine but it is so much more easy. There is one extra thing to keep in mind when shooting these, make sure you are not dry firing them but as well that you don't double load them. When you broke the barrel and not taking the shot directly you "forgot" and break the barrel again adding an extra pellet in the barrel. This is now solved with the new inertial magazines from Gamo. These where only available on the Replay 10x Magnum but with the Gen3 now being announced (Speedster Gen3) they seem to come with the inertial magazine as well. This magazine will only rotate to the next pellet after the rifle is actually fired. Thanks Andy for the video and good shooting.
Can't recommend these Gen 2's enough. I suggest getting the wood stock version. Better feel. The recoil, default scope, and accuracy are excellent.
I've always been a pcp enthusiast only ever owning one break barrel when I was a child. Upon seeing this and other reviews next payday I am so getting this rifle!
I purchased it about a year ago, in .22. I can nail a quarter at 25/30 yards no problem. It's great for backyard plinking or pest control at that range and still has pretty good knock down power beyond that if you can hit it. It took care of a pesty raccoon with one well placed shot. As you probably already know; it's in a different category than a pcp but the challenge makes up for it and it's a lot of fun. One word of advice; clean the barrel first!!!! It comes all gummed up with shipping anti-rust stuff. Enjoy!!!!
@@geedub7912 thanks for the info and advice. Unfortunately for us folk across the pond we're restricted to sub 12 ft lbs/16 Joules of muzzle energy unless you have a fire arms licence so I'll be going for the .177 since it has a flatter pellet trajectory and with the right pellets .177 is more suitable than .22 at this muzzle energy.
I've owned many a pcp rifle over the year's, but only have my trusty BSA Scorpion SE and my Umarex Reign at the moment, oh and my POS Nova Vista neupump. The Scorpion is accurate but the Reign is on another level! I get head shot on Rabbit out at 50 to 60 yards without even trying it's that accurate! And the Nova, well, it's a paperweight.
Also been eyeing the Evanix AR6K
I recently bought a Roadster and within 30 shots fired the mechanism which works the magazine became unlinked. I took it back to the seller who quickly corrected the fault and I returned home with it.Within another 50 shots fired it became unlinked twice. I followed the procedure the seller had done but I was not happy about continuing with using it. I’m returning it to the seller who has accepted my return. I checked with another well known Air gun retailer who said “. I have stopped selling that particular model
Hi Andy can you clarify the difference between the whisper fusion and the other whisper fusion on these? Cheers
Can you do a show on how to clean the barrel on those guns. It’s not so easy as I can tell
They look OK but how long will the plastic last will it get to the point were it wears out and the rifle become a wall hanger and a good warranty but it's all ways the same warranty runs out and the problems start sorry not for me the only good bit was the barrel made by Bsa .When bsa made there own rifles the made a spring rifle and it was fed by a magazine and it worked well but try and find one and the price will be a very high price
I have the 4.5 swarm maxim speed 10 1rst gen and it's a brilliant break barrel , and oh so acurate once scope is zeroed in, and the scope is realy good too and so crystal clear, personally I prefer the 1rst gen and my next one will be the 22 magnum 10 shot 👍
I like your reviews as it is usually simple, but thorough. This time you failed to mention three attributes:
1) The scope mount has a patented "shock wave reducer" to protect the scope against the harmful effects of the springer action.
2) I believe these models have been fitted with the new "gass springs" and no longer have a physical coiled spring, which means it can be stored loaded without harm to the spring.
3) The gen 2 magazine has a built in mechanism that will only load the next pellet if the previous one had been fired, so no double loading possible anymore.
Kindly pardon my terminology as it may not be the same as used by Gamo, but the meaning is the same.
I thought the same these are adverstized as IGT however upon inspection they are progressive spring
the mags on these dont have that mechanism to prevent double loading,that is only on the magnum gen 2 which i dont think is even available in the UK and the new gen 3i models which also are not yet available in the UK
and these are spring not gas ram.
Only in UK
Is a 5.5 cal with 24 joules roadster able to drop a medium sized hog?
no you mor....
next model of Gamo is the SUV? ;-)
Australia has the IGT piston not spring like UK. My roadster accurate with open sights.
I am 77 years and I have given up using my other guns because my shot guns ruin my shoulder for about 4 days now and my hand guns hurt my wrist for about the same amount of time. I ran across your channel and behold a light went off in my pea size brain that why not get into air rifles. I hand a Daisy pump rifle as a kid the more I pumped it the more powerful the out going pellet went. Are these the same or do they need just one break to get the max fps from them. Thank You and I subscribed to your channel
your only able to cock it once, and thats all it needs. if you have joint issues i would recomend a pcp, pretty much zero recoil
I have a question, can i put on a scope on my Gamo Roadster IGT 10X GEN2 ??? Can it resist the movement of the recoil arrester ???
What happend to irons?
thats tbe main reason for the gen 2!
you normally ca have irons with 10 shots
Review the Magnum gen 2, would appreciate it a lot since im looking into getting one very soon.
I don't thumbs up because you never reply.
Which one feels better in hands ? Speedster or roadster ?
These look like great rifles.
Well done Gamo 👏👏
Had a look at these last friday at VA but settled on the gen 1 barracade as I prefered the style and grip. Might get one of these in the future, as I'm a fan of Gamo rifles and have never had a single issue with them and the supplied scope is surprisingly clear, making it useable right out of the box, which makes it cheaper than a lot of rifles that have a slightly lower price tag but no included scope.
Hi Andy and Mrs aar you are doing beautiful job sir and madam, i hope Mrs aar will start shooting more air rifles and maybe show us men up, it would be nice to see family's shooting at air rifle clubs and maybe one day hope they get into the competition shooting league in uk as well as other countries, please carry on with both your TH-cam channels andy and Mrs aar, you are education us and informing us on what new items that is coming out thank both of you and the team as well
1:14: With names like Roadster and Speedster are you going to change your channel name to "Automobile Association Rifles"? jk
Should I get the GAMO G-MAGNUM 1250 IGT or the gamo speedster?
Are these springers or gas ram? They look very nice
They only have gas ram versions for both rifles (IGT)
Coiled spring in UK and gas ram in USA. No one knows why!
I see its easy to dry fire then mmm think I will pass.
Yup. These new Gamos are way good. Would gladly shoot one of these..
A big Thank You to Andy and crew once again!
i would assume the speedster and roadster names like the star names are simply gammo dellving into the old BSA gun/bike names bag, a way of instilling their new product with nostalgia, the same way Triumph motorcyces keep relaunching Tigers, Daytonas and Bonnevilles that have little to do with the classics, if you own the name why not flog it to death. save having to come up with something new, regardless how good the product !
this comment just sent me down a google rabbit hole. i never thought to make the connection between BSA bikes and BSA rifles.
One note should be made about the triggers on these air rifles. You can remove the trigger adjustment spring and add a 3-4mm longer one to remove the first stage and drop the pull pressure 1-2 lbs. Make a huge difference in reducing pulled shots.
I plan on doing this mod. Seems quite useful and makes perfect sense. I have an air venturi bullpup avenger. Found removing three tiny washers on the first stage of the trigger allows much less unnecessary extra play. These small mods are so helpful! Thanks!
I've got a Gamo Speedster Gen 2 (in .22) and it's a brilliant air rifle except for the fact that it comes with a stupid fake muzzle break.
Another thing that annoyed me when I first got it was the scope - it just didn't work for me so I got rid of it and stuck a Gamo red dot sight on it which has been better than a scope so far.
Also I think the Gamo Speedster Gen 2s were supposed to be gas ram (?) and mine for some reason was a Springer despite the fact I ordered it brand new (about £220).
Also the "inbuilt suppressor" clearly doesn't work simply because it's a barrel shroud.
fake muzzle break :)
so many people misunderstand the purpose of this design ,its quite funny
Another great review , even so i purchased a Gamo swarm from Vector air after your last review and i have to say its rubbish, not having a go at you, i love your videos,, buts its loud, its horrible to cock and only ok accuracy , it was a waste of money already confined to the back corner of the basement, compared to a SMK gas ram which is far nicer
i love Airguns but every video i watch i cant help thinking i wish i could do some metal detecting in that huge garden lol
Thanks for your nice in-depth reviews! Just bought the Gamo IGT Swarm Magnum Pro 10X Gen3i in .22. I'm very pleased with it, shooting narrow groups at 15 to 50 meters.
Been plinking for fun in my garden a lot and doing some decent pest control by killing a lot of rats lately.
I got the IGT uncapped version, as there's luckily no restriction on any type of airguns at all in The Netherlands.😀 BTW this .22 has loads of power and is capable of shooting straight through my 2cm thick garden fence as I found out when my neighbors told me why there suddenly peepholes appeared in our garden fence 🤭
The main reason for buying a break-barrel is that you don't need compressors, scuba diving tanks or high-powered hand pumps to shoot an air gun wherever I would like to go.
Got the Gamo swarm maxim elite last year. 1st time I've done any real plinking since our house got burgled when I was about 12 yrs old when they took my Webley Vulcan & my dad's BSA Airsporter... 30 yrs ago. Was extremely happy with my new purchase and although not used through winter at all, I did put about 1000 pellets through it between August & October! (me and my nephew) The magazine system adds a whole new dimension of fun for airgun break barrel shooting in my opinion. Looking forward to getting out when the time is right over next few weeks. I found it accurate, (10 shots in an inch at 20 yards, the occasional flyer,may have been the pellets or me) consistent , hits quite hard. If I had a complaint then the trigger is perhaps half a pound, maybe a full pound heavier than what I would consider perfect for me, though in fairness I haven't as yet tinkered/adjusted it & read somewhere it can be adjusted quite a bit (or quite a lot by replacing a standard screw for a longer one), so as yet is perhaps an unfair criticism if it has the potential for adjustment! Good fun for certain!
Webley Vulcan now that brings back some happy memories pal.
Would you ever do some top 10 videos regarding the different groups of guns? They're super helpful for new buyers
I've had my Maxim Gen 2 about a month. My only complaint is it's not nearly as accurate as I hoped. I also have a Hatsan MOD 25 break barrel pistol . Using the Hatsan factory supplied iron sights I can hit a little better at the same distance (105 feet) than I can hit with the Maxim with it's factory supplied scope. I think if I could find a peep sight for the pistol I could hit a little better than with the factory sights.
And I've tried several different brands and weights of pellets in the Maxim. My Maxim is a real disappointment. If you get one I hope yours works a lot better than mine.
I have a Gamo speedster igt 10x gen2 and found the best ammo is the predator short polymag, accuracy is amazing.
Just bought one in .177 caliber and while sighting it in I couldn’t adjust the scope. Called Gamo and they have another scope on the way free without returning the original. No iron sights can be fitted to the scope version I have according to Gamo. I only mention that because I’m told that the scopes really take a pounding from the spring piston action and don’t last long. I can’t imagine that Gamo will keep replacing scopes free every time they fail. So an iron sight backup would be nice but then the 10 round magazine would have to be moved ??? Who designs these things anyway? And it’s not as quiet as I was lead to believe. I guess the other Gamo models are much louder. 🙉
An American reviewer (Dr Russ?) on youtube said there was a problem with the pellets "jumping" out of the Mag on this Horizontal version of this rifle.
springers rock, nice video, thanks
How accurate is the Scope? I have been putting red dot sites on all my rifles.
Aren't they coming out with a Gamo 3
Hello sir!!! I really enjoy the videos,may I ask which shooting bench it is that your using in this video??? Thanks
Seems that if you keep repeating the cocking action without actually shooting you may plug up your barrel with pallets.
Andy any chance of a review of the ATA Airborne in the future its a budget pcp and i have seen some good reviews would love to know what you think. Regards
Surprising enough my birthday is coming up and I was interested in buying an airgun to take over the duties I use my Benjamin Prowler with. I LIKE the Benjamin and have used it plenty BUT the trigger is really only comparable to draggin my truck across my gravel driveway. I've done mods that were online and that improved them but it's just tough. Do these, which appear to have the same setup, have a better trigger on them? You seem to not have problems in the video but I though I watched it yesterday I don't remember seeing a trigger weight test. These light 3.5-4 pound triggers on my Rugers have me a little spoiled.
I just bought this exact rifle based on this video I hope Gamo appreciates you.
cant wait for the speedster turbo gti 16v convertible
Gamo says that the Fusion (Roadster) should be quieter than the Maxxim ( Speedster)
I've been waiting for you to come out with this video thank you sir I love you
I was a bit surprised that your grouping wasn’t a bit smaller. Is that normal for those guns? I still like them both
A good review. The rifle shoots well off a tripod. however accuracy would be improved if you set the rifle down in the tripod in the same place every time, watch the position of the front stock bolt/screw moving vs tripod.
Exactly.
Be nice if it comes in a gas ram vision ..?
Just pickup a 177cal swarm g2 maxim for $40 u.s I think I got a deal..
Gamo swarm gen 2 or hstsan 125 sniper in .22 for hunting small and medium game
The Break Barrel is still a favoured gun for the amateur enthusiast AKA Pest Slayer
I might have to get one of these pellet guns, even though I do enjoy shooting ground squirrels with a 30-06. Thanks for the review.
Nice looking rifles for young shot. hope the magazine problem was just a one off and not a problem as it gets well used. Great review, thanks 👍🥸
When are these due to be available in the UK?
I have the Remington Tyrant as my first air rifle. Would replacing it with one of these Gamo' be worth it? I guess the scope is better than the fixed magnification on the Remington. Is this Gamo quieter that the Remington?
I'd go for the gamo the new Remington's are made in china
They are plinkers at best, not what i would call a particularly accurate rifle.
Yep, you’ve done it again Andy. I want one, and it won’t cost be a daughter. Brilliant.
What happens if you think you have a pellet remaining, but you don't? Will it dry fire?
He just dry fired it in the video.
Morning Andy, nice rifles and a good review as usual. The only problem I can see with them is as happened with you and you don’t keep count and cock on an empty chamber. Firing a springer without a pellet in the barrel can damage the front of the piston as there is nothing to slow it down, causing it to crash against the end of the chamber. So it is very important to keep an eye on your remaining rounds. I have a Baikal IZH61 side lever spring gun which has a 5 shot magazine and at 6ftlb with a very light weight and adjustable stock makes a great little back yard plinker very suitable for teaching youngsters to shoot.
Well Gamo claims they dry fire their guns thousands of times without damage. Take that with a grain of salt, I suppose?
@@stanpotter7764 Yeah, No reason why they cant have a little shoulder/stop machined into the piston to stop the tip from getting damaged... have to open one up and see. \_o_/
Good morning Andy from Buenos Aires - Argentina. I have the Roadster 5,5. Excellent rifle ...!
is it good ? i am planning to get one , i need to know what is the maximum effective range for it and its accuracy .
Waiting for your answer , Thanks
Whats the cal.of the Speedster, the sqme as.rhe Roadster?
Always great reviews! Thank you for sharing your detailed experience in the comfort of our homes.
Is it just me or does this man sound like Jeremy Clarkson 🙂
I've always liked the look of the swarm and other variations. There were a number of reports of the scopes getting destroyed due to the recoil. At £280, think I'd put my money on the Webley nemesis X combo and have cash spare for pellets and co2.
I'm in the process of securing some pest control rights and love the look and accuracy of the Nemesis X, the only thing I'm not really convinced with it is the power output at the muzzle, and, subsequent power drop of the pellet at 25-40m.
I'm hoping perhaps Vector air could tune it to get it up to around 11 ft/lbs, making me more comfortable with dropping critters.
What I AM convinced on is the fact that I can't afford a PCP! lol
@@havok2396 ah good point, I thought it was at around 11ft lbs, just checked and it's under 8!!
@@1Goldigger1 yepp... Definitely not good enough even at 15m for a clean despatch imo. Let alone at ranges further out than that, I'm guessing the velocity drop off would put it at around 5ft/lbs (maybe less) at 25-40m?
I'd like to see some ballistic gel data on wound channel, penetration and energy dump at longer ranges?
I can't seem to find any however?
Great review, Thanks! It's my 50th this year, I wonder if I can persuade the missus to let me have a Speedster??... 😁
I think you can! No PCP compressor or hand pump free energy just pellets!
Any one caught the names of best riffle??
Good to see they have smartened up that autoloader mechanism.
At what range was the target placed ?
Hi Andy
Great review as always! Like this improved magazine system. Does the rifle allow you to fire an 11th shot ( on an empty magazine)?
Regards
the magazine holds ten pellets, you cant shoot 11 if it only holds 10
at 10:00 you mention that the joule is 15.03, how is that possible since its been marketed and sold as a 24 joule airgun?
because this is a U.K. spec rifle
I enjoy your presentations very informative Please include The Feet per second In your presentations
I do in every one.
Hi, sorry if this has already been asked, but I can’t seem to find it. Please can you tell me the distance that this rifle was zero?
25/30 metre shooting distance
Good morning dear Sir. Could you please tell me where I can buy the tripod that you used in this video?
www.vector-air.co.uk/product-page/rokstad-elp-v-mount-tripod
Happy earth day & great air gun review!
I'm confused, here in the states the Gen 2s have been out for well over a year, probably closer to 2yrs. And I think we're supposed to get the 1600fps Gen 3s this summer. But you're talking about these like they're something new. 🤔. And that's not the most advanced Gen 2 magazine with "recoil advance" which prevents double loading. And they have a red advance button on the top.
Another advantage for winning that little disagreement that occurred in 1776.
Yep, the UK market is getting shafted, we are getting product almost 2 years after global release. It's a pisstake considering the barrels are made here.
🤔I may wait until the Gen 3's come out,I have seen a video where the mag had a habit of spitting out pellets 🤷
Yup... I agree we have the Gen 2s here for around 18 months..... 😂
For .22 velocity needs to be 880 for accuracy.
I got the bone collector gen2. A beast
Last week's one with the wooden stock looked nicer.
Tis why I bought it. It's a treat really is. Joy to shoot
Morning Andy, awesome review as always. Can you do a review of the weihrauch hw95 as I bought one last year and accuracy wise its absolutle fine left to right but on the vertical axis it can shoot anywhere from 1" above the target and 3" below the target, I've asked the shop where I bought it about this and he said it's just bedding in and the shots that drop are caused by lead in the barrel which I'm quiet dubious about. I expected better from a weirauch I must admit!
Hi, my HW95 is very pellet fussy. Try the broadest width you can find ( 4.53 / 5.6+)
Regards
@@russellham2094 morning Russel, thanks for the reply, so far I have tried accupel (which both my falcons love), air arms, jsb and H&N with mostly the same results. Which pellets does your 95 like? I'll try them next!
Did you ever imagine Reeves as a teen you be doing videos that whole world could see , I find it just amazing .. great groups you got there mate
😎👍🏻
These HATE Crosman .177 pellets! They fall out and cause dry fire along with a 4 inch shot spread. Since they were the only brand available to me I returned it frustrated and began hunting for another rifle.
My magazine won't go to correct position when the barrel is snapped leaving it to blank fire. Unless I manually move the magazine as its in motion to the correct place. Only just bought it too
Excellent review. Can anyone tell me if these Gamos use their gas spring or a conventional spring to power the guns?
These are gas. Gamo's cheapest guns are sometimes spring, but not these.
Gas but u can get this in spring for a few dollars cheaper. I Kno cause I got 1 in wood stock. It's so dang nice lemme tell ya
No the UK version are springers due to laws.
You should review gamo swarm Magnum..it's there best seller because standard at 45 joules..and 1000 plus fts
These still interest me, but that comb is still very low, or perhaps more accurately, the scope mount is high, for obvious reasons.
Just like any Gamo they only last so long the quality sucks. Overpriced only last for awhile then it breaks down.
I love this magazine system, remember also, it is seating the pellet exactly the same every time! Very difficult to do loading a pallet with your thumb or finger. cracking little gun.👌
Is there a Swarm 10X .22 Gen 2 or Gen 3 that has open sights? I know they come with a scope, but I wanted to use open sights if possible.