Training will always be reflected by how you good you “play”… I am former “Vollie” in VA and we drilled, drilled, and drilled every weekend. I have the utmost respect for my fellow brother and sisters who dedicated themselves to their communities for FREE, but it’s a whole lot more than running around on a fire truck and getting a cool helmet to wear… With that being said, this is fine example of where drilling is important and I can only hope this video can be used for learning points, and preventing potential injuries or death to someone unfamiliar with fire ground tactics!
This you would consider the best fire department compared to these guys. I just had to share this. You are going to fall of your chair when you see this. They just gave up. Like no joke, if you listen to the audio you hear what I think is the chief say "might as well just let it go at this point". And they do. They shut all hoses down and stand there. Eventually they started up again I assume giving probies practice. Seriously I can't even explain how bad. Watch it. th-cam.com/video/JKYW6uK4vDI/w-d-xo.html
It might be a fulty pass or dieing batteries. The reason our department goes over packs atleast once a month. Our old dregar packs eat batteries while not ever being touched and when they do get used one of the packs pass alarms goes off 5 minutes after the pack is turned on. (It's part of the next batch to get replaced) we have a rule that if your pass goes off you buy a round for who ever is on sceen. (After everything is put back in service of course)
Turn up the pressure on the line, get closer, and move your ass! No one should have a pass alarm going off for that long. I’m sure this was supposed to be a “ cool video” , but it’s just embarrassing reel of tactical mistakes.
@@BIGTAYLORNI exactly I hate it when people who don't know what they are talking about say stupid stuff like this, the fire started in the basement and moved up to the top floor, the whole structure was at risk
Sooooo many questions on this one. 🤷♂️ Sitting in the garage dumping water through the man door to the house, making no progress on the fire........change tactic...move closer ( garage looks structurally sound). Someone should have been on the deck stairs and putting water on the main floor if the floor was compromised where entry wasn't safe. Make entry in the basement if the ceiling ( floor joists) looked safe, was free burning with no smoke to be able to see structural integrity. Not armchair firefighting, just 25 years experience asking questions and suggesting how I would have approached it. Glad all you guys got home safe after the job. 👍
@@MRBIG-lg9zl structurally maybe tital loss, but a lot of contents could have been saved with the majority of the fire overhead on the living floor. I don't have the " let's just half ass the job because it's lost anyway" attitude like some do commenting on these fireground videos
@@firefighterpk2440 Interesting, You must have had that water that flows up and away not down on objects below? I always had the "not going to play tough guy and get someone killed over an insurance job" kind of attitude. But hey, you da man......
@@firefighterpk2440 when you have fully involved structure fire you usually just let it burn down because of the total loss.... you simply dont care of the house contents, if its damaged by fire or smoke you dont want it.... this structure will need to be demolished and a new one built in its place anyway. Had a neighbors home burn down in the middle of the night this spring, the family got out just in time but the house was a total loss, the firefighters didnt bother wasting water on it and just controlled it so it didnt spread to nearby bushes and trees. They simply let the fire die out on its own.
agree, i dont see why all these comments wants them to stress and spray on a structure that is fully involved and a total loss anyway... you cant build on waterdamage and a 90% burnt building.... everything needs to be torn down and something new built in its place.
Those Pass devices are annoying but they are great when trying to locate each other in a burning structure. No matter how much we train to stay together sometimes crap happens
If you’re not gonna make entry then why even wear air packs? And please open the nozzle all the way you can tell by stream on that smooth bore it’s halfway.
Agreed but a white helmet at a volunteer dept could just mean he has been there the longest or comes in the most lol. My friend told he his gf was Lt. once.... at 23. Showed me her picture with red helmet and everything. I looked up her dept and she was a volly.
So just out of curiosity why did both firefighters catch the hydrant? That’s a one man job. The second firefighter usually stays on the truck to do things like oh say… pull an attack line. Maybe even fight a little fire. That was one hell of a long lay to have both your firefighters sprinting down the road.
I don't think they catched a hydrant. From what I see they laid down 5inch at the end of the road for the incoming engine for water supply or "split lay". Yea it made no sense for me neither, if anything they could have anchored it to the car on the drive way around wheels and moved slow. All while the firefighters would be on the engine.
Started off really horrible, 2 FF's to pull a supply line & both stay at the street, tie off the line or atleast 1 stay on the engine, the driver or off isn't gonna operate attk lines. Then both FF's walk down the long ass driveway, not running or hustling up, like on a picnic. 2 engines o/s w/8-10 ppl standing around watching the fire, no attk lines pulled for the 1st 2:45 of this vid & the vid was edited & speed up, so it was more like 4mins w/o a line pulled. Then I stopped watching out of frustration......they give FF's a bad name.
*A TRUE SHIT SHOW, HONESTLY.....* 2 engines & a good 8-10 ppl standing & looking at the fire, no water applied for more then 3mins o/s....WHY, grab a line & put water on FIRE PERIOD, THATS ALL!!!!! You give all volunteers a bad name, a F'd up name truthfully.
@@mark7bearcat766 You Only say that because they are from NY. Have you ever evaluated their performance or do you just look at the pretty uniforms and flames? Watch these videos and ask, "If I can see the burning material, why aren't they applying Tank Water to it within the first minute of arrival?" th-cam.com/play/PLkp0E1ao1XEyglhxetar50BGAuQ5CEoCu.html
house was a total loss before they even got there... they literally wasted water on the structure when they shouldve sprayed the bush and trees around to prevent spread....
I was thinking the exact same thing. One thing these guys had working against them was that distance....a lot more too but there should have definitely been a relay.
Ugggghhh...hit the seat..please ..the door kick wasn't needed. .the exterior spray and pray should've pushed in first. That overhead deck was already done ..
Still laughing at the fact that they went interior on an already collapsing structure in the middle of basically nowhere. No one brought ANY tools, not enough pressure, qnd the white hat gives up after abour 2 minutes of work...
…. sooo you’re on air when your outside, where’s theres plenty of fresh air & all the water has the humidity pretty high to help the fresh air …. wooow ….
I'm not the Monday morning quarterback type but I just can't. Would you please go into the house and put out the fire? That was not offensive fire fighting.
I'm sure they had lines on the upper floor, until a water source is set up you're linited to what's in the tanks.I think thats why you saw the second engine at the house, they might not had a tanker task force set up yet .
@@janetclark3557 Are you serious? "WAS, you there?" Do YOU need to Be There to have them Tell You what to think? It doesn't matter how far along a fire is, it is the JOB of the fire department to Stop Combustion Now, not eventually.
We used to handle outside lines without air. Heck, when I started, we went inside without air. But if the wind shifts, or you need to get closer, the air is certainly safer/healthier.
Acts 16:30-31 King James Version 30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? 31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
*MAYBE I'M CONFUSED......* why have both of the FF's jump off to deploy a supply line & stay at the street, then walk a mile to a fire?? Secure the hose & both get back on or just leave 1 FF, the driver & officer aren't going to grab the attk line while FF'S are walking down driveway....need better communication or training.
Training will always be reflected by how you good you “play”…
I am former “Vollie” in VA and we drilled, drilled, and drilled every weekend. I have the utmost respect for my fellow brother and sisters who dedicated themselves to their communities for FREE, but it’s a whole lot more than running around on a fire truck and getting a cool helmet to wear…
With that being said, this is fine example of where drilling is important and I can only hope this video can be used for learning points, and preventing potential injuries or death to someone unfamiliar with fire ground tactics!
This you would consider the best fire department compared to these guys. I just had to share this. You are going to fall of your chair when you see this. They just gave up. Like no joke, if you listen to the audio you hear what I think is the chief say "might as well just let it go at this point". And they do. They shut all hoses down and stand there. Eventually they started up again I assume giving probies practice. Seriously I can't even explain how bad. Watch it.
th-cam.com/video/JKYW6uK4vDI/w-d-xo.html
It was working good when they got there, but they completely lose it quick.
We could do without the music
This makes my head hurt...
Was the crappy music to cover up the PASS alarm that everyone was ignoring?
It might be a fulty pass or dieing batteries. The reason our department goes over packs atleast once a month. Our old dregar packs eat batteries while not ever being touched and when they do get used one of the packs pass alarms goes off 5 minutes after the pack is turned on. (It's part of the next batch to get replaced) we have a rule that if your pass goes off you buy a round for who ever is on sceen. (After everything is put back in service of course)
My favorite part is the guy trying to kick in the door with the sliding door busted out right there
nozzlenuts
It would have gotten them a better angle at the fire.
That was hilarious!! Camera guy walks right into the broken patio door while the other guy is trying to kick the door in! LOL
Why are we standing under a burnt deck, while the basement is fully involved, spraying the outside of the house?
Turn up the pressure on the line, get closer, and move your ass! No one should have a pass alarm going off for that long. I’m sure this was supposed to be a “ cool video” , but it’s just embarrassing reel of tactical mistakes.
Risk of collapse?.
@@BIGTAYLORNI exactly I hate it when people who don't know what they are talking about say stupid stuff like this, the fire started in the basement and moved up to the top floor, the whole structure was at risk
That’s a 2 and 1/2inch line fire all day
Sooooo many questions on this one. 🤷♂️ Sitting in the garage dumping water through the man door to the house, making no progress on the fire........change tactic...move closer ( garage looks structurally sound). Someone should have been on the deck stairs and putting water on the main floor if the floor was compromised where entry wasn't safe. Make entry in the basement if the ceiling ( floor joists) looked safe, was free burning with no smoke to be able to see structural integrity. Not armchair firefighting, just 25 years experience asking questions and suggesting how I would have approached it. Glad all you guys got home safe after the job. 👍
Makes me want to shake someone…
House was a total loss from the get go. 25 years of experience didn't tell ya that????
@@MRBIG-lg9zl structurally maybe tital loss, but a lot of contents could have been saved with the majority of the fire overhead on the living floor. I don't have the " let's just half ass the job because it's lost anyway" attitude like some do commenting on these fireground videos
@@firefighterpk2440 Interesting, You must have had that water that flows up and away not down on objects below? I always had the "not going to play tough guy and get someone killed over an insurance job" kind of attitude. But hey, you da man......
@@firefighterpk2440 when you have fully involved structure fire you usually just let it burn down because of the total loss.... you simply dont care of the house contents, if its damaged by fire or smoke you dont want it.... this structure will need to be demolished and a new one built in its place anyway. Had a neighbors home burn down in the middle of the night this spring, the family got out just in time but the house was a total loss, the firefighters didnt bother wasting water on it and just controlled it so it didnt spread to nearby bushes and trees. They simply let the fire die out on its own.
Response time is always a killer for rural volunteer departments. Nothing left to save when they got there, no sense taking risks.
agree, i dont see why all these comments wants them to stress and spray on a structure that is fully involved and a total loss anyway... you cant build on waterdamage and a 90% burnt building.... everything needs to be torn down and something new built in its place.
Save whatever valuables you can
“Fully involved” might be an overstatement.
If I wanted to listen to music I would have tuned in MTV... WTH.
DROP THE MUSIC
your killing me smalls
God bless firefighters and all emergency personnel!!!!
appreciate the video but could do without the music.
They were trying to cover up the PASS alarm they all kept ignoring.
REALLY??? You guys play music when you fight fires? Keep it real!
🤣🤣🤣
Totally awesome footage!
Those Pass devices are annoying but they are great when trying to locate each other in a burning structure. No matter how much we train to stay together sometimes crap happens
Expect the unexpected💯🚒💪
If you’re not gonna make entry then why even wear air packs? And please open the nozzle all the way you can tell by stream on that smooth bore it’s halfway.
Because toxic hot gasses are not just confined to the inside of a building.
@@nebraskaninkansas347 true but everything was pushing away from them and they wasting air.
Please… for the love of god… if you have on the white helmet… STOP TAKING THE LINE!!!!
Agreed but a white helmet at a volunteer dept could just mean he has been there the longest or comes in the most lol. My friend told he his gf was Lt. once.... at 23. Showed me her picture with red helmet and everything. I looked up her dept and she was a volly.
So just out of curiosity why did both firefighters catch the hydrant? That’s a one man job. The second firefighter usually stays on the truck to do things like oh say… pull an attack line. Maybe even fight a little fire. That was one hell of a long lay to have both your firefighters sprinting down the road.
Sprinting down the road wearing SCBA and making them less effective later on after that wasted effort.
They were not wearing SCBA’s
I don't think they catched a hydrant. From what I see they laid down 5inch at the end of the road for the incoming engine for water supply or "split lay".
Yea it made no sense for me neither, if anything they could have anchored it to the car on the drive way around wheels and moved slow. All while the firefighters would be on the engine.
We due get paid to take calculated risks, I agree should have entered, or pull the pumper up and hit with a deck gun. My opinion
Why is his pass going off and not turn it off
Started off really good but got bad fast, why didn’t anyone push through
Building was a loss b4 they got there, there was no reason to go interior but the try and get a guy killed.
Started off really horrible, 2 FF's to pull a supply line & both stay at the street, tie off the line or atleast 1 stay on the engine, the driver or off isn't gonna operate attk lines. Then both FF's walk down the long ass driveway, not running or hustling up, like on a picnic. 2 engines o/s w/8-10 ppl standing around watching the fire, no attk lines pulled for the 1st 2:45 of this vid & the vid was edited & speed up, so it was more like 4mins w/o a line pulled. Then I stopped watching out of frustration......they give FF's a bad name.
The fire goes out quicker if you man up and go inside
Brent look at that lay in.
*A TRUE SHIT SHOW, HONESTLY.....* 2 engines & a good 8-10 ppl standing & looking at the fire, no water applied for more then 3mins o/s....WHY, grab a line & put water on FIRE PERIOD, THATS ALL!!!!! You give all volunteers a bad name, a F'd up name truthfully.
They have to be volunteers. This is a messy fire and a crew. So many questions.
The FDNY is one of the worst departments in the world. Being a volunteer or a city FFer does not guarantee that the department has a good work ethic.
I beg to differ in my opinion fdny is one of the best
@@JB91710 my previous comment was addressed to you sorry about that
@@mark7bearcat766 You Only say that because they are from NY. Have you ever evaluated their performance or do you just look at the pretty uniforms and flames? Watch these videos and ask, "If I can see the burning material, why aren't they applying Tank Water to it within the first minute of arrival?" th-cam.com/play/PLkp0E1ao1XEyglhxetar50BGAuQ5CEoCu.html
Stop shitting on volunteers, remember where firefighters come from. A lot of firefighters were volunteers at some point.
Should have just let this fire burn itself out. Would have saved the homeowner some money in cleanup costs.
I liked the music.
from about 3:15 it's like pissing in a furnace that's some hot looking fire
Why would you stand looking at a house burning to the ground and not use the fully charged hose in your hands?
house was a total loss before they even got there... they literally wasted water on the structure when they shouldve sprayed the bush and trees around to prevent spread....
Was a relay pumper needed? That forward lay seemed like a long way from the hydrant.
I was thinking the exact same thing. One thing these guys had working against them was that distance....a lot more too but there should have definitely been a relay.
And why open a door with your foot when the sliders open
Everything I see says PUSH IN and out the damn fire out.
3:25 if you're afraid of fire you can just say that. WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU STANDING OUTSIDE 😂😂😂
They worked on what they found . We cannot do more than that.
Why is the chief on a hose line
confused on why they didn’t kneel at the sliding door to hit the fire at a better angle and have less of the wall in the way.
How far did u have to walk to it?
Ugggghhh...hit the seat..please ..the door kick wasn't needed. .the exterior spray and pray should've pushed in first. That overhead deck was already done ..
I have t seen rear door exit engines here in Toronto, that’s some smart stuff
Still laughing at the fact that they went interior on an already collapsing structure in the middle of basically nowhere. No one brought ANY tools, not enough pressure, qnd the white hat gives up after abour 2 minutes of work...
They did not go interior.
…. sooo you’re on air when your outside, where’s theres plenty of fresh air & all the water has the humidity pretty high to help the fresh air …. wooow ….
Sure there's fresh air, but there's also fumes from what's burning. Not to mention things like ash that could be floating in the air.
With were im from your going to get made fun of for a long time doing that
Stand up and make the push.
Another Chief on hose line. He can not do his job while on the knob
How far was the supply line?
Looked like 900 ft.
Where is this?
Is this helmet cam a Gopro?
I'm not the Monday morning quarterback type but I just can't. Would you please go into the house and put out the fire? That was not offensive fire fighting.
Delta mode crew safety. The house is a loss why risk the crews safety?
@@livestream3946 Maybe because there was an active PASS alarm going off? Just saying.....
NO MUSIC!!!!
Btw the fire is above you and yu r worried about th basement involvement
I'm sure they had lines on the upper floor, until a water source is set up you're linited to what's in the tanks.I think thats why you saw the second engine at the house, they might not had a tanker task force set up yet .
Wow
🤣
They gonna pressure clean that garage or put the fire out?
LOL I thought that was really funny!! They were watering the ladders or whatever was in the garage and not putting flames out!
Bruh.. all that LDH.. 😬🥴
Can do without the music Hans zimmer
No clue water squirting. No plan. No surgically applied water.
Was you there? That house was gone before they got there
@@janetclark3557 Are you serious? "WAS, you there?" Do YOU need to Be There to have them Tell You what to think? It doesn't matter how far along a fire is, it is the JOB of the fire department to Stop Combustion Now, not eventually.
@@JB91710 Was you?
💩💩💩 @@JB91710 🤡🎪🤡🎪🤡
Walk to it?
I bet there was nudity in that hot tub
OMG!
Can do without the teen music. Oh and this isn't your video is it? This is re-posting someone else's video isn't it?
You'd think people would learn not to put shit music over videos that have no need for it
If your after subs get rid of the music surely you know its shit.
Helmet cams are great for increasing appreciation for firefighters. Change my mind.
I won’t
Your absolutely right.
Please help me understand this new tactic called standing on the outside shooting water through a window… while on air… 🤦♂️
I think it’s called, “Being Safe and Not Getting Cancer” actually.
Why would you want to go inside? The building is a loss already.
Yard breather
We used to handle outside lines without air. Heck, when I started, we went inside without air. But if the wind shifts, or you need to get closer, the air is certainly safer/healthier.
@@derekh6223 the mindset needs to change before more firefighters die of cancer every year. Related to work...
They should have never posted this embarrassment…should have kept it in house to improve on pretty much everything
Listen to this hero, thank you for your service.....
3:25 apply the wet stuff to the red stuff...wtf u waitin for
Just Spraying in the "red" doesnt help...
😂😂😂
I gave this a thumbs down because of the pointless, unnecessary, and distracting music! YOU DON’T NEED MUSIC!!!!!! Music ruins the video!
Acts 16:30-31
King James Version
30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
Kill the music 👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎
Ummm master streams boys....ya need more GPM
Or a 30 deg fog pattern standing at the door ( let the 16000 to 1ratio steam do its work).
You really don’t!
VOLUNTEERS... You get what you pay for.
What do you mean? Are you saying volunteers are no good at fighting fires? If that's what you're saying you my friend have no clue..
Terrible music made me have to leave this vid. When will people ever learn?
*MAYBE I'M CONFUSED......* why have both of the FF's jump off to deploy a supply line & stay at the street, then walk a mile to a fire?? Secure the hose & both get back on or just leave 1 FF, the driver & officer aren't going to grab the attk line while FF'S are walking down driveway....need better communication or training.