I have PTSD from being burnt in a kitchen 🔥. It's no joke. It's so bad that if I see smoke near my apartment. I go and watch. That's helped me cope along with therapy. Best of luck to you, Steve, and keep up the good work.
I’d like to see all these rude commenters try and work this job for a week. Great work stopping the fire, brave job indeed!! Respect to all the firefighters out there
Calm and cool I love it! Great job brothers. Omg the guy who threw the ladder on the opposite building in the beginning and then threw the fly on the house fire. His power level is over 9000. Amazing video!
@@mikenasa7026 If they ever put a lid over boiling water and then tilted the lid with the opening facing them they’d understand. Heat and smoke hinder interior operations on the fire ground. Less heat and smoke makes visibility, rescue and time on scene a lot easier and better. Yes doing ventilation is dangerous but we all know and accept the fact that every call could be our last!
Im already addicted to your videos ! Nice job of firemen getting to 2 story roof and adding another ladder to get to the top, homeland security could have never done that !
Too many armchair firefighters here. While i DEFINITELY agree that this couldve been done better, it doesnt deserve all this hate. Yes, he shouldve worn gloves, but that doesnt mean you borderline insult the uploader or the firefighter. They got the job done, and if you really think someones gonna get hurt by doing things like this, get out of the comments section and email KCFD.
The fact that people are still doing this on residential roofs is mind boggling. All of the research from FSRI showing the extremely limited value of roof vents is extremely conclusive. This video in itself demonstrates this. The roof vent did nothing to change the outcome of the fire. The guys knocked it down before the vent was even completed. The size of the vent opening didn’t remove an appreciable amount of smoke, and only serves to increase fire if water isn’t being actively applied to the fire at the time the roof is opened. I’ve spent 38 years on an extremely active rescue company. I used to believe this was necessary until I matched the science with what we were seeing. There is little appreciable difference in opening a hole the size of another window in the roof. Often when we felt visibility was improving and we could find the fire was simply because the vent allowed the fuel to ignite. This of course lifted those fuels as they were now burning. We could now find the fire because the fuel was burning. In this video, you can see the steam conversion happening under the guys and through the vent they were cutting around. The fire was already being knocked without benefit from the roof. When you see the smoke venting from other parts of the roof, that smoke doesn’t stop venting from those areas, nor does it lessen its volume as a result of the vent hole being cut. This shows that the vent hole itself did little to actually relieve pressure and clear smoke. What relieved that was water on fire and the resulting cessation of smoke production. To have a true appreciable effect to what they wanted to do, the vent would actually need to be about 10 times that size (if fire were still active) Start reading the science and start understanding what we are actually seeing and doing.
Only one roof ladder? No gloves on or on air while cutting on da roof? Where’s the second roof ladder? Secondary means of egress if it goes to shit? Stay safe out there KCFD!! 🔥
@@FirstResponderGolfcool video nonetheless and I respect both of yours hustle. I also noticed that the ladder was not wedged properly, and he never sounded the roof, but it all worked out.
It’s a great perspective from a FF and job we do day in and day out 24 7 365!!!! I was just pointing out some safety concerns and fireground tactics and strategies.
Have a question. When you graduate from the fire academy, who decides if you’re on engine or truck crew? Always wanted to be a firefighter or law enforcement. Unfortunately, got sick with RA. Thank you for posting these videos. Gives me a taste of what I would have been experiencing. Be safe & thank you for what you do.
Hello Todd. Each department is different but in Kansas City Kansas you rove around to most of the stations your first year+ and then you can find a crew/rig/truck or pumper to go to.
Like the OP said every department is different. My department and most other departments in my area you're assigned to a station, not a company. Each shift/tour you will be assigned to one of the apparatuses (engine, truck, booster, medic/ambulance etc.). It may be that your station officer rotates everyone around each tour, or they decide to keep certain people on certain apparatus each tour. Officer and driver are usually specifically assigned to an apparatus. Other departments you may actually be assigned to a specific company, which I personally think is better. For example, FDNY
@@jsock8091 thank you for responding. I know it takes a special person willing to miss a lot of family/friends events to do your career. Unfortunately, not too many people are willing to go above and beyond to help someone out! Would do anything to do what you do! Thank you again and be safe!!
punching out holes on the roof is to create ventilation ports to make interior conditions more tenable for interior crews and any potential victims. this is only done once interior crews have begun fire attack though. as far as the wood around burn doorways the other person already hit that one
I wasn't on this scene. I don't know. I am just sharing helmet cam footage of a fire buddy to bring awareness to my mental health awareness mission. Thanks for watching.
FOR WHAT? They have no business being on that roof in the first place! Vertical Venting is just about the most ridiculous tactic ever created and even if it did work, there was no need for it here. Boys and their toys!.
No structural firefighting gloves used during ventilation. What if the hole suddenly combusts? Come on guys. Burned hands create a shortage of good firefighters. All appropriate PPE is required on the fire ground depending on assignment!
I love the work but please mask up. With all the new discoveries in the chemicals in the modern fire, every firefighter should be paked up and mask on, period. Now if youre not vent, hose line, etc i get it
It’s takes a lot of coordination from the truck crew and practice!! This not something we do everyday. Of course , POWER LINES play a key factor in determining placement any ladder on scene!!
Tank Water should be flowing through one of those windows by the 1:05-1:15 mark. There is absolutely NO REASON to climb up on the main roof of the house. The porch roof? Absolutely, for better access for the introduction of more water into that room. 3:00 Still no water but they are doing everything BUT, eliminate the threat to any victims, entering firefighters and the structure. In other words, completely dropping the ball. They unnecessarily risk their lives on the roof and now have damaged the roof while accomplishing absolutely nothing.
People will pay attention to you when you have been an actual firefighter and not a lazy boy firefighter. No department would even let you near the station.
@FloridaCatholicGuy Do you make childish comments like that because you are incapable of discussing something as simple as firefighting? That's sad sunny!
Advocating an exterior attack on a 3 story top floor fire while also criticizing for doing nothing to help possibly trapped occupants - yup, you drank the UL/NIST kool-aid alright. Looks like they got a pretty fast knock on the fire. Very limited damages and extension. Great interior visibility. Attacking strategy and tactics at jobs that go well just makes you an idiot.
So much time wasted. Perfect deck gun opportunity. 45 seconds with the deck gun and that's 90% out. There's no reason to be on the roof of that house. It's already venting. Way to slow and wasted time, energy..
I have PTSD from being burnt in a kitchen 🔥. It's no joke. It's so bad that if I see smoke near my apartment. I go and watch. That's helped me cope along with therapy. Best of luck to you, Steve, and keep up the good work.
Thanks for the comment. Take care and sorry to hear about your PTS.
I’d like to see all these rude commenters try and work this job for a week. Great work stopping the fire, brave job indeed!! Respect to all the firefighters out there
Calm and cool I love it! Great job brothers. Omg the guy who threw the ladder on the opposite building in the beginning and then threw the fly on the house fire. His power level is over 9000. Amazing video!
The fact that there are so many guys on here that dont understand why we vent the roof is alarming lol
@@mikenasa7026 If they ever put a lid over boiling water and then tilted the lid with the opening facing them they’d understand. Heat and smoke hinder interior operations on the fire ground. Less heat and smoke makes visibility, rescue and time on scene a lot easier and better. Yes doing ventilation is dangerous but we all know and accept the fact that every call could be our last!
Im already addicted to your videos ! Nice job of firemen getting to 2 story roof and adding another ladder to get to the top, homeland security could have never done that !
Thanks for watching
Too many armchair firefighters here.
While i DEFINITELY agree that this couldve been done better, it doesnt deserve all this hate. Yes, he shouldve worn gloves, but that doesnt mean you borderline insult the uploader or the firefighter.
They got the job done, and if you really think someones gonna get hurt by doing things like this, get out of the comments section and email KCFD.
What's a Arm Chair firefighter? Does it mean firefighters have arms like a chair legs?
The fact that people are still doing this on residential roofs is mind boggling.
All of the research from FSRI showing the extremely limited value of roof vents is extremely conclusive.
This video in itself demonstrates this. The roof vent did nothing to change the outcome of the fire. The guys knocked it down before the vent was even completed. The size of the vent opening didn’t remove an appreciable amount of smoke, and only serves to increase fire if water isn’t being actively applied to the fire at the time the roof is opened.
I’ve spent 38 years on an extremely active rescue company. I used to believe this was necessary until I matched the science with what we were seeing.
There is little appreciable difference in opening a hole the size of another window in the roof. Often when we felt visibility was improving and we could find the fire was simply because the vent allowed the fuel to ignite. This of course lifted those fuels as they were now burning. We could now find the fire because the fuel was burning.
In this video, you can see the steam conversion happening under the guys and through the vent they were cutting around. The fire was already being knocked without benefit from the roof. When you see the smoke venting from other parts of the roof, that smoke doesn’t stop venting from those areas, nor does it lessen its volume as a result of the vent hole being cut. This shows that the vent hole itself did little to actually relieve pressure and clear smoke. What relieved that was water on fire and the resulting cessation of smoke production.
To have a true appreciable effect to what they wanted to do, the vent would actually need to be about 10 times that size (if fire were still active)
Start reading the science and start understanding what we are actually seeing and doing.
Only one roof ladder? No gloves on or on air while cutting on da roof?
Where’s the second roof ladder?
Secondary means of egress if it goes to shit?
Stay safe out there KCFD!! 🔥
I agree. This is my buddy's helmet cam footage. I am just using it to try to bring eyes to the channel to my mental health mission
@@FirstResponderGolfcool video nonetheless and I respect both of yours hustle. I also noticed that the ladder was not wedged properly, and he never sounded the roof, but it all worked out.
It’s a great perspective from a FF and job we do day in and day out 24 7 365!!!!
I was just pointing out some safety concerns and fireground tactics and strategies.
I puckered up big time when I saw he wasn't gloved up! That's going to be a painful lesson! I pray that they all stay safe!
So much wrong with these tactics. :(
Nice work..
Have a question. When you graduate from the fire academy, who decides if you’re on engine or truck crew? Always wanted to be a firefighter or law enforcement. Unfortunately, got sick with RA. Thank you for posting these videos. Gives me a taste of what I would have been experiencing. Be safe & thank you for what you do.
Hello Todd.
Each department is different but in Kansas City Kansas you rove around to most of the stations your first year+ and then you can find a crew/rig/truck or pumper to go to.
Like the OP said every department is different. My department and most other departments in my area you're assigned to a station, not a company. Each shift/tour you will be assigned to one of the apparatuses (engine, truck, booster, medic/ambulance etc.). It may be that your station officer rotates everyone around each tour, or they decide to keep certain people on certain apparatus each tour. Officer and driver are usually specifically assigned to an apparatus. Other departments you may actually be assigned to a specific company, which I personally think is better. For example, FDNY
@@FirstResponderGolf you be safe and thank you for letting me know!
@@jsock8091 thank you for responding. I know it takes a special person willing to miss a lot of family/friends events to do your career. Unfortunately, not too many people are willing to go above and beyond to help someone out! Would do anything to do what you do! Thank you again and be safe!!
you have to be mentaly unwell to get on a roof and do that. at least your chain was sharp. stay strong brother. looks like fun.....
Good Knock
Can someone with FF knowledge explain what they are doing when they poke holes in the roof and remove the wood around the burnt out doorways?
Checking for extension, smoldering can cause the fire to rekindle
punching out holes on the roof is to create ventilation ports to make interior conditions more tenable for interior crews and any potential victims. this is only done once interior crews have begun fire attack though. as far as the wood around burn doorways the other person already hit that one
good job in all but sound that roof first before stepping on it, be safe .
The fire was already venting from the attic area, what was the purpose of the roof cut other than to look cool?
I wasn't on this scene. I don't know. I am just sharing helmet cam footage of a fire buddy to bring awareness to my mental health awareness mission. Thanks for watching.
Just because ridge vents and soffit covers have smoke coming out of them does not mean its vented for fire conditions.
@@hihfty Did you not see the flames pouring out those windows?
To ensure adequate ventilation. You weren't there. Why are you worried about the job they did?
Of course. Thanks for posting it
Nice cut guess gloves are out huh and put hook on the ladder when your coming down don't have to throw it in yard just my two cents
I agree. This is not my helmet cam footage. A buddy of mine is letting me use it to grow the channel mental health awareness mission
What type of camera are you running..
and where did you purchase it from?
This is my buddies cam footage. Not sure on the type or where he got it
Probably fire cam
I too would love to know. I'd like to add one to my helmet for when we run calls.
I am all for ground ladders but you have a ladder truck, why not use that as you main roof access?
Power lines
@@FirstResponderGolf Yeah, i saw them. Looked like you had enough room to swing under them, but hey I was not on the fireground. Cheers
@@brianrobinson9602 right on. This is my buddies helmet cam footage. I wasn't on the scene either. Lol. I was going by what I heard early on.
FOR WHAT? They have no business being on that roof in the first place! Vertical Venting is just about the most ridiculous tactic ever created and even if it did work, there was no need for it here. Boys and their toys!.
@@JB91710Ooooh lookey here, we got ourselves a Couch Firefighter.
Pretty sure dude man threw a 35 by himself
I’m down to golf with you.
Is this a how not to video?
Thanks for watching
Yes, absolutely!
I would be embarrassed to share this video.
@@tomwheeler3264 Thanks for watching
@@JB91710 thanks for watching
No structural firefighting gloves used during ventilation. What if the hole suddenly combusts? Come on guys. Burned hands create a shortage of good firefighters. All appropriate PPE is required on the fire ground depending on assignment!
I agree.
I love the work but please mask up. With all the new discoveries in the chemicals in the modern fire, every firefighter should be paked up and mask on, period. Now if youre not vent, hose line, etc i get it
Where's your gloves
Wasn't me in the video. Just sharing footage. I agree. Thanks for watching
Wasn't me in the video. Just sharing footage. I agree. Thanks for watching
Klamm park boys
Yes it is
You’ve got ground ladders placed yet there is a 75,000 pound truck with a larger ladder that could have easily went up too.
There was a power line situation according to what I heard in the video.
Power lines in the way as you can see in the video and ground ladders are also quicker
Yeah. Fuck those power lines!
It’s takes a lot of coordination from the truck crew and practice!!
This not something we do everyday.
Of course , POWER LINES play a key factor in determining placement any ladder on scene!!
That truck prolly 60k not 75k pounds
Tank Water should be flowing through one of those windows by the 1:05-1:15 mark. There is absolutely NO REASON to climb up on the main roof of the house. The porch roof? Absolutely, for better access for the introduction of more water into that room.
3:00 Still no water but they are doing everything BUT, eliminate the threat to any victims, entering firefighters and the structure. In other words, completely dropping the ball.
They unnecessarily risk their lives on the roof and now have damaged the roof while accomplishing absolutely nothing.
People will pay attention to you when you have been an actual firefighter and not a lazy boy firefighter. No department would even let you near the station.
@FloridaCatholicGuy Do you make childish comments like that because you are incapable of discussing something as simple as firefighting? That's sad sunny!
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@@JB91710 🐔💩🤡
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Advocating an exterior attack on a 3 story top floor fire while also criticizing for doing nothing to help possibly trapped occupants - yup, you drank the UL/NIST kool-aid alright.
Looks like they got a pretty fast knock on the fire. Very limited damages and extension. Great interior visibility.
Attacking strategy and tactics at jobs that go well just makes you an idiot.
So much time wasted. Perfect deck gun opportunity. 45 seconds with the deck gun and that's 90% out. There's no reason to be on the roof of that house. It's already venting. Way to slow and wasted time, energy..
Thanks for watching