You can actually drag in a drum groove sample , then set drummer to follow the drum groove track and come up with a very similar, yet original drum groove.
@@Top_Dawg360 to be honest, I can’t remember exactly. I haven’t been making much music in the last year. Look into how to create a groove track in logic. Then inside the logic drummer , there’s a follow button you can click, then choose to follow the track you set as the groove track. It definitely works, I just can’t remember exactly how to do it. But Logic has a feature you have to turn on called groove track. It’s somewhere in the menus related to what the track headers show. You can set all tracks or some to follow that groove track, so it will basically quantize other tracks in the style of the groove track. And more importantly, so will logic drummer
@@Top_Dawg360I use the iPad version, but on there you have to go into the drummer track editor, click one of the dropdown arrows on the drum sounds, and click the track you want them to follow
I have found that it works best to think of it as 1, 2 and 4 bar regions.And exploring making the simplest patterns via puck placement and individual kick/snare etc choices. Making these takes time but then save as user presets.Well worth it.Plus it gets you very personal inside the song.With subtle variations, it goes really great for the whole arrangement. Using a scratch rhythm guitar part as the track to follow, the pull and the push matches great.I mute the guitar because then I can do a proper rhythm guitar to a now livelier drum 'performance'.
This was a really well done tutorial which is typical of the channel. For me it was a timely superb refresher reminding of a few options I’d completely forgotten about and in some other instances, that I was simply unaware of previously. Thank you. 🙏
I was working on a house track the other day and I REALLY needed that 90's Masters At Work latin percussion - Isabella to the rescue bro. Rendered out a couple bongo/perc loops and bitcrushed the crap out of them and boom - Instant 90's house top loop. Absolutely no clue why I ignored drummer tracks until recently...
Awesome vid! Love the Groove Track and the convert to midi (view drum names - crash left/right stop adjusting the timing ever so slightly) Killer info, very helpful. Looking forward to hearing this song (example/demo) that you're using completed.
I'd like to see you do an example that uses ghost notes like reggae, fusion or a song like Tower of Power's "What is Hip" ! I've messed with drummer and wasn't crazy about the results.. so I'd like to see how you can control the snare without messing everything else up that comes behind it.. 🎸
I like that you can combine Drummer parts with midi parts whenever Drummer is living a life on its own. I am really curious and excited to see what they will add to Drummer in the future! Great video!
Amazing video again, and although I knew the drummer controls, Groove tracks are Blowing. My. Mind! I thought follow was the only way to do this, and I’ve been wishing for exactly this feature. Thank you!!
Great video, as usual! I was surprised you didn’t dig into the Details page of the drummer editor where you can adjust things like the opening of the high hat and whether the drummer is pushing or laying back. And, of course, the electronic drum kits have some different controls. Might be good topics for the next video. Thanks!
Also, just to add to you great comment. If you change the editor window of the Drum plugin's GUI to Controls and drag it out bottom right... there's a plethora of options for tailoring the kit. Of course if you change it to Multi-out, your mixing options are endless.
@@douglasemmett8355 apologies, I probably should have explained that better. Open the plugin for the "Drum Kit" in the mixer and go up to the top right of the GUI and change it from "100%" to controls. Then drag the bottom right of the plugin window out and you'll see all the extra controls!!
@@douglasemmett8355 apologies, I probably shpould have elaborated on what I was trying to say. Open the plugin for the drummer track. (ie "DrumKit" Drum Kit Designer) and go to the top right of the plugin window where it says "100%" and change it to "Controls".... then drag the bottom right of the plugin window out and you'll see all of the additional parameters available.
fantastic video dude, finally someone explains how cool logic drummer is! thanks a lot! 🙏👍🏼 would love to see a detailed video of demystifying Logic Sampler and exploring the length and breadth of its possibilities!!
Wow Chris, If only I had known what drummer could do, it’s mad! I don’t think I will be using the third party drums I have purchased, luckily I didn’t spend a lot on them, but wow! What a fantastic tutorial and can’t wait to revisit my projects to try out these fantastic drummer features and all thanks to you.
Chris. This is an excellent video for using Logic's Drummer as a tool for rhythm section inspiration. I was unaware of a few of Drummer's features. Thanks! One quick marketing tip. Mention your name again at the end. I know it's the 'Why Logic Rules' channel because it's under the video. But I also want to know who the guy is behind the channel. P.S. I just subscribed and look forward to more of your content on Logic.
Great video Chris!! Just to add.. and maybe you're probably going to do a video on the Drum kit editor at some point anyway. I recently discovered (after seeing a massive list of automation controls on my S3 controller for the plugin) that if you change the Drum kit designer editor to "Controls" and drag it out bottom right... there's a plethora of options for tailoring the kit. Of course if you change it to Multi-out, your mixing options are endless.
Fab, thanks for the video, extremely helpful. I am about to release an album and wish I'd have know about this before I started, as my life would have been so much easier! I may well have a play with some of the songs to see what I can achieve based on what you have taught me today, as I have to do radio edits of each of the tracks, so let's see what's possible! Thanks again!
I'vce been digging through the WLPR videos and can't seem to find this (or anywhere else). If I have the Drummer set up and like the pattern but want to change out the sounds for snare, or kick etc. is there a way I can bring samples in to change the sound but keep everything else the same?
Really enjoyed this video. Thank you for highlighting how great this often over-looked part of Logic is. WILL DEFINITELY USE IT MORE NOW THAT I KNOW HOW TO APPLY GROOVE-TRACKS AND CONVERT TO MIDI OR PATTERN REGION. So cool! Would love to see something from you that outlines which aspects of music production to learn and in what order. (From Boom-Bap beginnings to Film Scoring the Dark Knight?) An EVOLUTION of a music producer if you will. I would also like to see a video wherein the latest expensive plug-in is outdone by stock Logic instruments and plug-ins. I am always interested in a cool engineering trick, mixed with an interesting use of music theory. I am of the belief that "the hand-shake", (i.e combo of Theory and Technical skills) is far better and cheaper than any VST/AU out there. (and has created every VST/AU as well.). Something few TH-cam Gurus address. With the Exception of Venus Theory, Ed Talenti, Nathan James Larsen and MusicTechHelpGuy.
I find it to be an OK tool, it is much more restrictive than I would prefer. honestly, I wish that Apple would acquire Rayzoon and their plug-in Jamstix. Jamstix has been around since 2006, and, at least in my opinion, represents what logic drummer could ultimately become.
I bought a set of v drums because I got tired of fighting with drummer ... It's great and definitely a good starting point when you want to get things going ... but the program will never do exactly what you hear in your head .. I'd always have to go in and drag everything into midi and spend even more hours programming specific fills, kick drum hits where I wanted them .. and I do real straight forward stuff .. Most of the beats the program comes up with always seemed like too much fiddle faddle .. even when you simplified beats, changed drummers, whatever... it always did stuff I would never do... It's easier and less time consuming to just get some electronic drums and knock the stuff out yourself. I love all the drum kits Logic is stocked with ... drummer is clever and really fun for a little while .. but then after a bit, the limitations really start to frustrate the crap out of you. It's a fun toy though.
I am re making an album I wrote in 1999 with Anders, which is the only option we have for a hard hitting drummer, I wish there was a Metal drummer or 4, Metal is Drummer's paradise, get on it, Apple!
If you adjust and/or alter the midi of a producer kit does it affect the other tracks such as Rooms, Leak and Overheads or do those track stay as the drummer region was before converting to midi?
While I agree that Logic's Drummer is amazing I can't agree that it is ahead of all other plugin developers. In particular, the version of Jamstix available when Logic's Drummer was released was already way more sophisticated. It's currently so far ahead of Logic that there is no comparison. Unfortunately, the developer has totally neglected the Mac version in recent years and so it currently doesn't even officially support Catalina. However, it is a solution so superior to Logic Drummer that I maintain a Windows PC purely to host Jamstix and effectively use it as an external MIDI drum sequencer.
Completely agreed. Logics Drummer is like a newbie drummer compared to Jamstix. Apple has simplified the UI of Drummer so much that there’s no way of achieving the same control. So it’s a bit of a stretch to claim that Logics drummer is so amazing and that plug-in developers is “just catching up”. Rayzoon have been doing that since 2006 or longer, but unfortunately not stable for Mac.
Go up to - View - Show colors - It opens Color Palette, Click on marker(s) or Arrangement marker(s) to select, then click on a color in the color palette.
Buonasera! Thank you for that video, very interesting and helpful! Is there a possibility for making some play alongs (easy jazz/swing charts) for pupils? I can‘t find a „right/serious“ drummer for Jazz-Standards … .
There really isn’t one for jazz. You can fake it a little with the drummer that plays with brushes (can’t remember the name right now), but it’s not really jazz. I use the groove monkee jazz buddy midi pack to do jazz drums within logic when needed, that works pretty well. I edit parts as needed with the midi files.
Agreed. The roots brushes drummer can do a little bit of jazz like stuff, but I mentioned in another comment I use the groove monkee jazz buddy midi files when I need jazz patterns. I edit as needed but they give a good starting point.
Awesome Chris.......Some great tips. I don't mean to sound ungrateful, but personally I think Apple need to rethink the configuration and layout of the Drummer's options...... it's a dog's breakfast...... Normally, most of Apple's designs are intuitive for the end user. Drummer is definitely not. I wonder what else is 'hidden' in the interface? Phffff........
I went to Drummer region - right clicked - applied the transform Drummer to Midi option - then chose secondary tool as mute, primary tool as pencil - in the midi region - that worked to mute or add hits.
So I did the midi transform - muted notes changed the velocity, added some and took away notes. This all worked - and was interesting to try. But, at the end of this experiment - I just re-applied regular new Drummer regions on the track (instead of the midi) - now with a bit of added knowledge.
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You can actually drag in a drum groove sample , then set drummer to follow the drum groove track and come up with a very similar, yet original drum groove.
how?
@@Top_Dawg360 to be honest, I can’t remember exactly. I haven’t been making much music in the last year. Look into how to create a groove track in logic. Then inside the logic drummer , there’s a follow button you can click, then choose to follow the track you set as the groove track. It definitely works, I just can’t remember exactly how to do it. But Logic has a feature you have to turn on called groove track. It’s somewhere in the menus related to what the track headers show. You can set all tracks or some to follow that groove track, so it will basically quantize other tracks in the style of the groove track. And more importantly, so will logic drummer
@@Top_Dawg360I use the iPad version, but on there you have to go into the drummer track editor, click one of the dropdown arrows on the drum sounds, and click the track you want them to follow
I've been using Drummer tracks for a long time and never knew you can convert to midi and fine tune. Kind of a game changer! Thanks!
I just purchased Logic Pro and absolutely am in love!
I have found that it works best to think of it as 1, 2 and 4 bar regions.And exploring making the simplest patterns via puck placement and individual kick/snare etc choices.
Making these takes time but then save as user presets.Well worth it.Plus it gets you very personal inside the song.With subtle variations, it goes really great for the whole arrangement.
Using a scratch rhythm guitar part as the track to follow, the pull and the push matches great.I mute the guitar because then I can do a proper rhythm guitar to a now livelier drum 'performance'.
Wow, Great video. I always thought that drummer sucked… But after watching this video I realized that it’s me not drummer. Lol
I learned so much from this video. You did a great job demonstrating the concepts in an easily digestible way. Thank you!!
Great video ... great explanation of how to use the Drummer in Logic. Thank you.
This was a really well done tutorial which is typical of the channel. For me it was a timely superb refresher reminding of a few options I’d completely forgotten about and in some other instances, that I was simply unaware of previously. Thank you. 🙏
Great video, been looking for a video that explains the drummer in logic, but the arp guitar is ten cents to high and its really annoying.
I need to use the drummer more. This video helped a lot. I finally understand the power of this tool. Thank you.
Great video, going to use drummer for my next demo! Thanks
Love this video. Rhytmic tracks are one of my (many) weak points, but this video is inspiring me to digg-in further into the Logic Drummer !!! Thx
I do exactly the same with all, except choose a groove from the right side library first sometimes, great video:)
Thanks for the lesson. I’ll be trying out your tips.
I was working on a house track the other day and I REALLY needed that 90's Masters At Work latin percussion - Isabella to the rescue bro. Rendered out a couple bongo/perc loops and bitcrushed the crap out of them and boom - Instant 90's house top loop. Absolutely no clue why I ignored drummer tracks until recently...
Awesome vid! Love the Groove Track and the convert to midi (view drum names - crash left/right stop adjusting the timing ever so slightly) Killer info, very helpful.
Looking forward to hearing this song (example/demo) that you're using completed.
Superior tutorial!!!Thank you so much💥
Awesome tutorial! Thanks for making this. Very helpful info
I'd like to see you do an example that uses ghost notes like reggae, fusion or a song like Tower of Power's "What is Hip" ! I've messed with drummer and wasn't crazy about the results.. so I'd like to see how you can control the snare without messing everything else up that comes behind it.. 🎸
Thanks for this - a couple new things learnt!!
I like that you can combine Drummer parts with midi parts whenever Drummer is living a life on its own.
I am really curious and excited to see what they will add to Drummer in the future! Great video!
I’d like to see updated drum samples/ kits for acoustic drums. Compared to other sampled drums out there, they sound a bit dull.
@@michaelraimondi4448 Layer them .. process them... make them your own. It's possible.
Excellent video! I'll be playing with Drummer a lot, it's been a great practicing and jamming tool for me
Since his launch Logic Pro is the best DAW for music production.
Amazing video again, and although I knew the drummer controls, Groove tracks are Blowing. My. Mind! I thought follow was the only way to do this, and I’ve been wishing for exactly this feature. Thank you!!
You’re the best teacher! 🙏🏻☑️💥
Thanks! Converting to MIDI is exactly what I needed to know
Great video... first video ive seen that makes sense of drummer ... thanks a million
Great video, as usual! I was surprised you didn’t dig into the Details page of the drummer editor where you can adjust things like the opening of the high hat and whether the drummer is pushing or laying back. And, of course, the electronic drum kits have some different controls. Might be good topics for the next video. Thanks!
Also, just to add to you great comment. If you change the editor window of the Drum plugin's GUI to Controls and drag it out bottom right... there's a plethora of options for tailoring the kit. Of course if you change it to Multi-out, your mixing options are endless.
@@mattrixx_audio Yeah, not to mention the Producer kits as well! 🤘🥁
@@mattrixx_audio What do you mean “change the GUI to controls?”
@@douglasemmett8355 apologies, I probably should have explained that better. Open the plugin for the "Drum Kit" in the mixer and go up to the top right of the GUI and change it from "100%" to controls. Then drag the bottom right of the plugin window out and you'll see all the extra controls!!
@@douglasemmett8355 apologies, I probably shpould have elaborated on what I was trying to say.
Open the plugin for the drummer track. (ie "DrumKit" Drum Kit Designer) and go to the top right of the plugin window where it says "100%" and change it to "Controls".... then drag the bottom right of the plugin window out and you'll see all of the additional parameters available.
fantastic video dude, finally someone explains how cool logic drummer is! thanks a lot! 🙏👍🏼
would love to see a detailed video of demystifying Logic Sampler and exploring the length and breadth of its possibilities!!
Thank you. Peace and Kindness!
Wow Chris, If only I had known what drummer could do, it’s mad! I don’t think I will be using the third party drums I have purchased, luckily I didn’t spend a lot on them, but wow! What a fantastic tutorial and can’t wait to revisit my projects to try out these fantastic drummer features and all thanks to you.
Tremendous stuff Chris - thank you
Awesome video. Thank you for all that work and presentation. 😮🎉😃
nice upload Why Logic Pro Rules. I killed the thumbs up on your video. Continue to keep up the outstanding work.
Chris. This is an excellent video for using Logic's Drummer as a tool for rhythm section inspiration. I was unaware of a few of Drummer's features. Thanks! One quick marketing tip. Mention your name again at the end. I know it's the 'Why Logic Rules' channel because it's under the video. But I also want to know who the guy is behind the channel. P.S. I just subscribed and look forward to more of your content on Logic.
Great video Chris!! Just to add.. and maybe you're probably going to do a video on the Drum kit editor at some point anyway. I recently discovered (after seeing a massive list of automation controls on my S3 controller for the plugin) that if you change the Drum kit designer editor to "Controls" and drag it out bottom right... there's a plethora of options for tailoring the kit. Of course if you change it to Multi-out, your mixing options are endless.
Fab, thanks for the video, extremely helpful. I am about to release an album and wish I'd have know about this before I started, as my life would have been so much easier! I may well have a play with some of the songs to see what I can achieve based on what you have taught me today, as I have to do radio edits of each of the tracks, so let's see what's possible! Thanks again!
great tutorial!
Convert to midi seems relatively new. Game changer.
Amazing video. Thank you 🙏
I couldn't see how you muted the two Midi cymbal hits. I saw you select them, but wasn't sure what you did to mute them measure 5 beat 3....
Bloomin' brilliant. Cheers Chris!
Always great Cris tutorials
Thank you for this incredible lesson! Can you please show us how to route those drums to the mixer for further advanced mixing ?
I’m pretty sure any of the drummer stuff can be mixed in the inspector for the channel strip it’s on without even needing to open the console mixer
I'vce been digging through the WLPR videos and can't seem to find this (or anywhere else). If I have the Drummer set up and like the pattern but want to change out the sounds for snare, or kick etc. is there a way I can bring samples in to change the sound but keep everything else the same?
This was amazing!!
Awesome job! Cheers
If you feel a bit lazy, go to the loops for fills & slot them in, modify to fine tune them too.
Fantastic content as usual, great stuff! Thanks.
Is there a way to change the drummer's beat to do half-time using the "Follow" feature? Thanks!
Super useful. Thank you.
Good stuff, thanks!
Can you do a tutorial on bass’s nova drums in drummer. I’m having a hard time tweaking the Latin drummer to get the bossa nova feel. Thanks!
I must ask this question. Can the drummer module compete with EZDrummer 3 or Superior Drummer 3?
Great tutorial (as always) - Cheers Chris 🤟.
Really enjoyed this video.
Thank you for highlighting how great this often over-looked part of Logic is.
WILL DEFINITELY USE IT MORE NOW THAT I KNOW HOW TO APPLY GROOVE-TRACKS AND CONVERT TO MIDI OR PATTERN REGION. So cool!
Would love to see something from you that outlines
which aspects of music production to learn and in what order.
(From Boom-Bap beginnings to Film Scoring the Dark Knight?)
An EVOLUTION of a music producer if you will.
I would also like to see a video wherein the latest expensive plug-in is outdone
by stock Logic instruments and plug-ins.
I am always interested in a cool engineering trick, mixed with an interesting use of music theory. I am of the belief that "the hand-shake", (i.e combo of Theory and Technical skills)
is far better and cheaper than any VST/AU out there. (and has created every VST/AU as well.). Something few TH-cam Gurus address. With the Exception of Venus Theory, Ed Talenti, Nathan James Larsen and MusicTechHelpGuy.
Good stuff, Chris! Thanks as always!
great video! Is there a way to control drums parameters such as simple/complex, loud/soft or fills with a midi foot expression pedal ?
Really needs modern metal drumming. Imagine having different Metal drummers from different sub-genres. That would be sick.
I find it to be an OK tool, it is much more restrictive than I would prefer. honestly, I wish that Apple would acquire Rayzoon and their plug-in Jamstix. Jamstix has been around since 2006, and, at least in my opinion, represents what logic drummer could ultimately become.
I bought a set of v drums because I got tired of fighting with drummer ... It's great and definitely a good starting point when you want to get things going ... but the program will never do exactly what you hear in your head .. I'd always have to go in and drag everything into midi and spend even more hours programming specific fills, kick drum hits where I wanted them .. and I do real straight forward stuff .. Most of the beats the program comes up with always seemed like too much fiddle faddle .. even when you simplified beats, changed drummers, whatever... it always did stuff I would never do... It's easier and less time consuming to just get some electronic drums and knock the stuff out yourself. I love all the drum kits Logic is stocked with ... drummer is clever and really fun for a little while .. but then after a bit, the limitations really start to frustrate the crap out of you. It's a fun toy though.
I am re making an album I wrote in 1999 with Anders, which is the only option we have for a hard hitting drummer, I wish there was a Metal drummer or 4, Metal is Drummer's paradise, get on it, Apple!
Great video, thanks. Just wondering… do we need to quantise everything or does the drummer plugin account for minor human errors.
If you adjust and/or alter the midi of a producer kit does it affect the other tracks such as Rooms, Leak and Overheads or do those track stay as the drummer region was before converting to midi?
While I agree that Logic's Drummer is amazing I can't agree that it is ahead of all other plugin developers. In particular, the version of Jamstix available when Logic's Drummer was released was already way more sophisticated. It's currently so far ahead of Logic that there is no comparison.
Unfortunately, the developer has totally neglected the Mac version in recent years and so it currently doesn't even officially support Catalina.
However, it is a solution so superior to Logic Drummer that I maintain a Windows PC purely to host Jamstix and effectively use it as an external MIDI drum sequencer.
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Completely agreed. Logics Drummer is like a newbie drummer compared to Jamstix. Apple has simplified the UI of Drummer so much that there’s no way of achieving the same control. So it’s a bit of a stretch to claim that Logics drummer is so amazing and that plug-in developers is “just catching up”. Rayzoon have been doing that since 2006 or longer, but unfortunately not stable for Mac.
Amazing!! thank you!
Thanks!
What is the difference between having drummer follow another track and using a groove track? Thanks!
Very helpful as usual. However, the guitar track is way to loud, making it difficult to listen to the drummer details.
Brilliant! 👏👏👏
Very helpful, thanks. One question, how do you change or selective colors for the different markers?
Go up to - View - Show colors - It opens Color Palette, Click on marker(s) or Arrangement marker(s) to select, then click on a color in the color palette.
You didn't even go into the Detail controls in drummer. I use that all the time.
Buonasera! Thank you for that video, very interesting and helpful! Is there a possibility for making some play alongs (easy jazz/swing charts) for pupils? I can‘t find a „right/serious“ drummer for Jazz-Standards … .
There really isn’t one for jazz. You can fake it a little with the drummer that plays with brushes (can’t remember the name right now), but it’s not really jazz. I use the groove monkee jazz buddy midi pack to do jazz drums within logic when needed, that works pretty well. I edit parts as needed with the midi files.
I wish Logic would add jazz styles too.
Check the root drummer with brushes.
Agreed. The roots brushes drummer can do a little bit of jazz like stuff, but I mentioned in another comment I use the groove monkee jazz buddy midi files when I need jazz patterns. I edit as needed but they give a good starting point.
and reggae or one drop
I found there is no need to convert the drum track to midi in order to edit it. All i do is press P for piano roll and it shows it automatically.
Why all the fear of the swing function?
No fear from me! I'm a blues singer-songwriter and guitarist and I'm always having to adjust the swing.
If we can get the AI drummer to solo that would be Awesome. Great video!
Awesome Chris.......Some great tips.
I don't mean to sound ungrateful, but personally I think Apple need to rethink the configuration and layout of the Drummer's options...... it's a dog's breakfast...... Normally, most of Apple's designs are intuitive for the end user. Drummer is definitely not. I wonder what else is 'hidden' in the interface? Phffff........
My drumtrack sometimes just goes off tempo... Its like unfixable when i try to fix it. Does Anyone know why this is happening to me?
you look completely different to how I'd pictured you! :D
Video on point, especially when ezdrummer just dropped
How at 2:34 the plus button next to the region came up?
How are you muting the midi notes at the end of the video?
If I remember correctly, you select the notes and hit Control-M. Or you can right-click and I think Mute is on the menu. Enjoy!
I went to Drummer region - right clicked - applied the transform Drummer to Midi option - then chose secondary tool as mute, primary tool as pencil - in the midi region - that worked to mute or add hits.
So I did the midi transform - muted notes changed the velocity, added some and took away notes. This all worked - and was interesting to try.
But, at the end of this experiment - I just re-applied regular new Drummer regions on the track (instead of the midi) - now with a bit of added knowledge.
Will it get you demonitized using this in your recordings
No because it’s created by ai for everyone for your individual track. It’s not very likely anyone would ever get the exact same result
🙏👍
Drummer is amazing, but jazz-impoverished IMO
Almost as good as eZDrummer
You can also use the AI drummer with your own drum VSTs. 🥹🙌🏾🙏🏾
Awsome, thank you!