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DBFZ Evo 2019 Top 8 (GT Goku) - • Dragon Ball FighterZ E...
DBFZ Combo Breaker 2019 Grand Finals (GT Goku) - • Combo Breaker 2019 - D...
Karnov Top 4 at Frosty Faustings 2024 (Ray) - • Karnov's Revenge Top 4...
GG Xrd Rev 2 EVO 2017 Grand Finals (Johnny) - • EVO 2017: GGXRD REV2 -...
GG Xrd Rev 2 EVO 2018 Top 8 (Johnny) - • Evo 2018 | Guilty Gear...
ArcRevo America 2019 Grand Finals (Johnny) - • ArcRevo America 2019: ...
Garou MOTW EVO Japan 2023 Top 9 (B Jenet) - • EVO JAPAN 2023 - GAROU...
MBAACC CEOTaku 2023 Top 8 (C-Roa) - • CEOtaku 2023 MBAACC - ...
Killer Instinct 2013 Combo Breaker 2022 Top 8 (ARIA) - • COMBO BREAKER 2022 - K...
Killer Instinct 2013 Combo Breaker 2023 Top 8 (ARIA) - • COMBO BREAKER 2023 - K...
TampaNeverSleeps Killer Instinct 2013 Top 8 (ARIA) - • NEW PATCH! TNS KI Tour...
BBCF EVO Japan 2019 Top 3 (Izanami) - • EVO JAPAN 2019 ► BLAZB...
BBCF Comtech Tower (Izanami) - • BBCF2 Comtech Tower ||...
Masoma Izanami CEO Training - • BBCF Masoma's (Izanami...
Time Stamps:
0:00 - Opening
0:28 - GT Goku (Season 2 DBFZ)
09:34 - Ray (Karnov's Revenge)
15:52 - Johnny (Guilty Gear Xrd Rev 2)
21:03 - B.Jenet (Garou: Mark of the Wolves)
24:50 - Crescent Moon Roa (Melty Blood: Actress Again Current Code)
31:45 - ARIA (Killer Instinct 2013)
38:06 - Izanami (Blazblue Centralfiction)
43:33 - Outro + Member Shoutouts - เกม
Hey guys, sorry if I sound a bit haggard here. Got a bit of a cold. Also I bit my tongue like an hour before recording lol. Not my week
Hope your tongue feels better soon
Sorry to hear that.
1 for low tiers gotta talk about 12 one day.
2ed maybe do a "most hard to play in fighting game video." I bet puppet characters, minigame characters, mimic characters and high execution characters would top that list.
Now I'm off to watch some tournaments
what'dya think the algorhythm viability is like for the missed potential of high and mid tiers? and the nuanced situations that comes with it?
1) Hope you get better soon
2) Soundtrack list?
Insta-edit: I'm an idiot with a lack of the ability to look at the corner, also heavily appreciate that you do that with the background music - saves so much time finding the really good tracks!
Johnny was such a monster in xrd that people forgot how FOUL elphelt was
Elphelt was cancerous, Johnny at least took execution.
Truer words have never been spoken.
@@philbuttler3427 elphelt is really obnoxious but lets not pretend she doesnt take work. not as much as johnny but you cant just pick up elphelt and magically start seeing results
i hate that character as much as anyone but lets keep it a stack lol
@@kingvelard oh I just meant relative to pretty much any other character she was expressly designed to be easier. Easier is definitely relative though cause Xrd is hard AF to get good at.
@@philbuttler3427
Tbh I don't think Xrd johny execution is that hard and he is dumbed down in a way because he no longer has to manage when to go into level 3 because he always wants to be in level 3. One of the reasons he's so good and consistent in Xrd.
izanami cons: can't block
izanami pros: can't not block
As a Blazblue beginner, even playing Izanami's character guide was like "...wait, what?!"
I laughed as they were like "oh, she can't block!" And then immediately are like "Plus, here's Broly armor"
Finally more people exposing izanami players
Death to izanami
Looks like Roa's biggest nerf in Lumina was a haircut.
Still mad about that redesign tbh 😒
I know his long hair makes a small cameo in the remake novel to differentiate who's in control of the body
Neat and clever story telling gimmick but I miss the warcrime locks lmao
I swear to god Mori was high on crack while making BlazBlue. Like look at the top tier of this game, it's enough to leave a scar for 3 generations just from that floating T-Pose Ribcage
KARNOV'S REVENGE MENTIONED
the tier list for Karnov's has been really interesting as of late, people mostly think that Zazie is top one, but Mizoguchi has gotten a lot of reevaluation in the past few years with his high damage and frankly absurd DP.
mizoguchi is absolutely one of those characters where it never feels like its over for him until he hits 0. every match against him is a horror movie fr
I think with GT Goku it should have been noted how comical the plus frames on spirit bomb are. It wasn’t just standard 4 way mix, he had unironically like 6 seconds of plus frames for some godforsaken reason
Funniest part about ARIA is that over the course of KIs lifespan- she isn't even the most nutty top tier. Not by a long shot. We are blessed that KIs competitive lifecycle ended before Eagle became absolutely insane, and got nerfed recently. But oh boy, there are things to be said about him. Or Season 2 TJ. Or season 2 Maya. Or Fulgore in any season. ARIA is strong, sure- but on KI standards, she is relatively "fair" top tier.
Let’s not forget omen, a character who has some of the nuttiest shadow moves (one of which is a one button get out of jail free card) and the unique trait of having *every combo ender giving him extra meter* oh and he has an extra meter bar because why not and he also has a super move in a game without super moves
@@Shuttergun1don't forget that he can also glide and backdash in the air, which gives him an insane high low mix up, aswell as blocking the opponent's meter just by doing a specific and easy to use combo or hitting with his fireballs in instinct.
Friendly reminder that season 2 Kan-Ra with his sand traps, bugs and absolutely stupid damage, just straight up nullified like two thirds of the entire roster until he got nerfed into the ground in season 3
Surprised a Mid Tier video hasn't been made yet. It's probably hard to do, but feels weird not having it out. Mid Tiers are actually my preferred character choice as I don't feel carried as playing a Top Tier would feel like but won't struggle like playing with a Low Tier. Best of both worlds.
The classic, respectable characters that everyone can enjoy and play. I'll pass lol (Zato main, they killed my boy)
I feel like Armor King in Tekken 7 is the face of mid tier characters. He's very fundamental focused, and his tools overall are good. Nothing crazy or particularly better than higher tier characters, but better than low tiers at least. He was pretty consistent between all the patches too. None of the tweaks he got ever necessarily made him better or worse.
He's also been my main ever sine he was dropped in season 2 of 7.
@@joshdavis8381 I loved tekken 7 played ALOT of Negan sadly we'll never see him again
@@Spectrik just play who you like and don't let the whinging get to you or guilt you. You earn every win. 😊
Maybe you shouldn’t care what other people think and just choose characters you like regardless of what tier they are.
Blazblue top tiers are a different breed from other fighting games. Some of the most vile top tiers you will ever see but the idea behind Blazblue top tiers is that in theory they are almost all really difficult to play. Carl is hard, Iza is hard, Arakune is hard, Rachel is very hard etc it’s not like strive where sol is just brain dead and top tier
Izanami is not *that* hard
And Arakune isn't even a top tier
yes she is and yes he is
Izayoi is the only top tier that's easy
@@duo317 She is not easy either, and not nearly as top tier as the other guys, Es is the one you're looking for(closest you will get to top while still being easy).
@@nayd5043 Izayoi is top tier depending on who you ask. But I do find her overall difficulty to be a bit overblown by the community, she’s not brain dead but still no where as hard as people say she is
Now I wait for the inevitable sequel when you learn the mechanic exploiting degeneracy that is Kevin Ryan in Mark of the Wolves
Gato is also pretty insane in that game.
@@Sommeill welp, he is pretty much in the top 5 along with kevin, jenet and the bosses XD
As an Izanami player, she’s fun and easily top 3 in the game. She requires a decent amount of practice to get down and is fairly punishing as her defensive kit is fairly poor with no meterless reversals. But she is probably the best character in the game at winning after a single hit
important to note that burst goes through ribcage
I'm a dirty jenet main in garou and I make absolutely no apologies for the life choices that led me to that
Great video as always
I picked up Jenet after swapping off of Rock because she was cute and I wanted to play someone that wasn't outclassed by literally everyone else.
10/10 instant main in every game she's in (Oh god, please let her be in City of the Wolves; they've GOTTA do it)
I was surprised at the Ray mention, thank you for covering my favorite fighter!
A sneaky strategy you can do with Ray is being able to hit behind a cornered opponent as they wake up with Hard Electric Tackle, its a good finisher and you can keep them guessing if you're doing the hard or light version.
always makes me happy to see another video explaining cool fg characters in my inbox
I LOVE THESE VIDS PLS NEVER STOP
Love the background footage in the karnov section showing off how wack the AI in that game is. Samchays hold forward and frame perfect button technique lol. Sick video!
loved ur zato coverage! nic3 to see dis
Love these videos, keep up the good work!
I'm glad GT Goku is back and is on a rampage.
The Rat won't stay down forever.
GT Goku was nerfed in season 3 and stayed nerfed until the changes for him last year undid his nerfs, except assist A with the beam.
Hi! I loved the video and I'd love to see more. Do you plan on making a sequel and possibly covering 3D fighting games such as Tekken, DOA, and soul Calibur?
It's worth noting for 236C in your roa section that it's also plus on block for some reason and lets him get a very stable knockdown that gives him orbs pretty much anywhere on screen (236C into dash 2C always lets you tk 3 air orbs) and you can fit it into pretty much any of his routes. Because you always get an orb setup you pretty much build the meter back too and it can loop a stupid amount of times
Johnny went from the most fun to the most cracked to actually honest in the span of three games. I think a combination of making coins more advantageous, making lvl3 MF much more potent than its’ XX iterations and combine killer joker divine blade and ensega into zwei to name a few made Johnny much more dangerous in pressure and combos
Also, Izanami is mad fun despite the heat. One of the few top tiers where you need to pilot her well. Knowledge checking w/ ribcage can only get do far
I strongly agree that making Zweihänder as a move was absolutely a big reason as to why Johnny was so good. He has the mobility of Killer Joker, the extremely favorable hitbox of Divine Blade, and the “high execution” knockdown condition of Ensengna (Enkasu).
And then Strive came and he’s actually balanced, which is funny, but I might honestly prefer (I miss coins tho).
@@whisperhawkmoonspecialist9203 one could argue that the movement of zwei was his old divine blade’s in reload but combine both divine blade anti anti air and ensenga 1 hit hkd on top of YRC made his options really strong
Also, i think I’d prefer coins too. Im fine with cards replacing bacchus. His combos are so much more tame in comparison to the crazy air combos
Goated vid as usual homie 🔥🔥🔥
Another character in KI worth talking about if you're planning to do another one in the future would be Rash.
He's definitely the most hated character that's for sure!
Random historical Johnny info: the coin powerups and Bacchus worked somewhat differently in Guilty Gear X2 and its iterations. They still went up to Level 3, but IIRC Level 2 Mist Finer would always cause wallbounce, and Level 3 turned Mist Finer into a six-hit combo.
Meanwhile, Bacchus in Xrd makes it so the opponent staggers on block. Bacchus in X2 makes it so the opponent _can't_ block.
I thought in Garou business, Kevin was our guy
GT Goku's autocombo being a long distance wasn't touched on enough. Two of the biggest escape options in DBFZ are backdash and reflect. Both are intended to make space with the opponent in different ways. The problem is that GT Goku's autocombo moving SO far forward meant it could reliably punish backdash, and maintain pressure on reflect, making it very difficult to escape, especially combined with his strong stagger pressure.
id love to hear you talk about happy chaos especially from his past season where he was basically uncontested as the best
babe new mr mixtape dropped!
holy shit, i never thought i'd hear about aria again! i didn't even know KI was still getting balance patches! fighting games are so sick
Breaks in Garou also unlock new combo routs on hit. Some characters get more use out of it more than others.
just a suggestion, but have you ever considered replacing some of the background footage with some tournament footage from the games, like when youre discussing the top players/character representatives? either way great video 👍
Might I suggest grabbing footage of characters in their prime for those in patchable fighting games? Even if it's just grabbing clips of tournament play demonstrating the points you bring up.
Goated video.
By the way, what's the intro music?
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Honey, come quick, new MrMixtape video just dropped
B Jenet can backdash cancel like Slayer?? BDC glide kick looks so gross, I wanna try her out now lmao. Cool vid!
Not to mention that GT Goku was the only character post season 1 patch that still had the unscaled double super damage when using spirit bomb into level 1 that character like bardock ssj goku got nerfed for their double level 1 supers
I feel like tournament or combo footage would be great for these style of videos
fr, All these noob footages of dropped comboes and failed inputs and tutorial blockstrings are really grating sometimes 😂
GT’s spirt bomb also teleported the little rat out of all pressure and had low enough end lag to get out of the corner for just -3 bars
these videos are so entertaining. thanks.
i think the funniest part of Johnny not being great in strive is the fact that it isn't like his buttons or pressure are bad, those are both pretty great, he just can't dash block, which is a much more important part of neutral in strive than it was in xrd.
Unrelated I saw the anarchy reigns thing and got very excited cause you know ball
Triad Thunder is a pretty cool weapon, more characters should have moves like it. If you do another part, I heard that Noob-Smoke were pretty cracked in MK Deception, there's also Jin/Steve in Tekken 4 or Kabal in a few MK games.
I literally came to watch TH-cam videos because Kogasa was beating my ass in the UFO extra stage and I got too frustrated to keep going. Only to be jumpscared by her theme in the Roa section. I know her thing is surprising people but this is just cruel.
Izanami is head and shoulders above the rest, as a long time player of BBCF I'll never understand why she wasn't banned for just being soul crushingly unfun to fight.
Yes, the other top tiers like Mai/Es/Rachel/Carl/Litchi are oppressive with foul mixups/crazy oki/amazing neutral but at least they have to learn to do more precise manuvers and actually have to block if you DP some mixups or win neutral (easier said then done for sure). Izanami just does ribcage after burst and is essentially guaranteed to get in after bursting while you can do nothing about it with the vast vast majority of the cast.
You know she's busted when top level Izanami players allow themselves to go into danger state instead of cancelling ribcage because they know you aren't going to be able to hit them during danger state anyway.
Ray looks like a later SNK character time-displaced into SF2. What the hell.
MrMixtape, you probably won't see this, but if you want some more top/bottom tiers to talk about, I'd be more than willing to show you around Lethal League Blaze.
btw you forgot another thing you can do with johnny that is completely bonkers. if you SOMEHOW like an ABSOLUTE GOD, manage to do a treasure hunt in the middle of mist finer dash, treasure hunt won't JUST give you two coins, it will also LAUNCH THE OPONENT TO THE UPPER LIMIT OF THE STAGE.
Glad to see a Dokkan fan
I'm an Izanami main. She's so utterly disgusting on offense, but man her combos are so sick to hit, float cancelling mid combo is something that you really cannot beat in satisfaction
I wish you featured Jojo HftF again in this video. More people need to know how good Khan is
Aria was so much fun to play. I still THINK RAMM was the most broken though with his command grab vortex
I’m convinced Jenet was the inspiration for Ino and Ruby Heart
Mixtape talking about BlazBlue? Holy shit!
Edit: BB has some very crazy and creative characters in general, would it be possible to see some more videos on it in the future?
If Johnny could dash block in strive he would be top tier he is in fact NOT whack
You should have put Carl Clover here. He has everything and actually is a contender for Top 1. I personally think he's tied with Izanami due to them having an actually even matchup
Not to mention that he's THE puppet character. Not just any puppet character
i remember getting bullied by goku black, ui, and bardock
Didn't expect to see Roa tbh
In the game he is the best for being better than everyone tbh while there fullmoon Archetype Earth which is the best for playing a different game entirely
Watching MooMaster play Ray is always a treat
Absolute husband (of May)
can't believe you didn't mention izanami having cracked mobility (the best backdash in the game, really high superjump, can airdash>float>airdash again) so she can actually twerk on lots of characters by just jumping and shooting bits. or her normals (6A anti air that hits all around, low profile 2B that moves forward) being so good. OR that using EA basically gives her a plus on block reversal super, even if it's expensive. that character just does not give a fuck
Labcoat 21 seriously needs to be studied because I have never lost interest in a game so fucking much like when she got released
Short vid on Ivan Ooze please
A short video of the general from Kaiser knuckle then haha
What I understand from what people have said about Johnny is that while he is busted, he is also extraordinarily hard to actually play due to extremely demanding execution.
"OH GOD, HELP ITS A CHILD"
Talking about newer fighting games getting consistent patches, while Ultimate stays the way it is forever... new video with Steve included incoming?
Babe wake up new MrMixtape
Ray: One of the very few characters in the game with an air grab. And he can air grab Karnov out of balloon.
I'm happy to hear that there is a top tier that shares my unserious last name.
I love the word Stancels
Like i said on the community post johnny is allowed because he is ~cool~ and *sexy*
Someone talking about GAROU Mark of the Wolves
Please talk more about Killer Instinct
Honest mids mentioned!!!
oh man I miss killer instinct and doing weekly tournies... Imo Rash is just THE MOST. i hate dealing with him smh
Top tiers i like as a tekken player,
T5 heihachi
T3 jin
T4 jin
TT2 mishimas
T7 jin
Most interesting one for me is
T7 leroy top tier
T8 leroy bottom tier
Also bryan in general is a very interesting top tier, steve as well
for a moment i thought he was talking about strive johnny and i was legit aboutta say aint no way bro is calling a character that can't dashblock a broken top tier lmaooo
am i ready to be topped? always
(glad youre feeling a bit better ^_^)
Kevin god tier, Freeman bottom tier
26:07 is that uncle joel
0:16 why was Hsien-Ko tweaking so bad 😭
Zero/Doom/Virgil
I don’t know which iteration and what tier he’d be in, but I need a Faust video/segment 🙏
Or a Ginyu video since you talked about dbfz here
Faust arguably was near the top of any tier list in Guilty Gear until Strive happened, where at launch he was effectively one of the worst, if not the worst.
@@farout_tech Yeah I haven’t played ggst in a while but that’s what I remember from being a Faust main, and I heard really good things about him in rev 2
@@GetInVan Yeah, in Rev2 Faust was top tier, somewhere right below the likes of Johnny and Elphelt. Nage is a prominent Faust player (still plays Faust in Strive), and he won plenty of stuff during the Rev2 era, including EVO Japan 2018. The grand finals were him versus Omito (Johnny) lol.
In +R Faust was very good too, but just shy of the top dog slots due to characters like Zappa, Testament and Baiken. Even in the first Guilty Gear (the PS1 game), Faust boasts some ridicilous normals that he can get infinites out of (I know it's a game full of infinites, but still, Faust can hit from ranges other characters can't).
Generally the things that made Strive Faust worse were:
- Item toss becoming almost twice as slow as his Rev2 counterpart (from 23 to 40 frames). To compensate, Strive faust is not "item locked" like he was before, meaning he can repeatedly spam items without having to wait for his existing item(s) to expire (ex: if Rev2 Faust threw meteors, he would have to wait for the meteors to come down before he can throw another item). However, item toss being slower means it's still a more committal option, and so cancelling into it from his pokes like f.S and 2H isn't as safe, and can get Strive Faust punished if opponen is looking out for it.
- Removal of his "pogo" move and stance. This was a very good way for Faust to extend his combos in both corner and midscreen.
- His j.2K isn't a war crime anymore. It was a lv4 move(!!!) in Rev2, making it really hard to contest if blocked, and leading to some really easy combo conversions if it counter hits. Like seriously, j.2K to j.2K to j.2K can be a legitimate blockstring!
- He also lost his ability to cancel the startup of his j.2K with faultless defense (this technique being known as a drill cancel). When done right, this makes Faust stall in the air for a moment, letting him vary up his landing timing and keep opponent guessing. While this wasn't an integral thing to make him work, it did give him access to really fast overheads if performed right.
- His 5D had some 10 frames of strike invincibility in its startup, making it a reversal you can pull out in some situations lol.
The one thing Strive Faust has over his previous incarnations is that the scarecrow teleport PRC is notably more usable in his mixup game now. Previously you'd rarely use it, and instead spend your meter elsewhere.
Those, and maybe some minute changes to his frame data (2P isn't +1 on block anymore...) just made the poor doctor fall hard. He's been getting some help in Strive throughout the patches, so he's in a better place now, but still a shadow of his former top tier self.
Got a feeling Jenet will be top tier again in CotW
I always prefer playing characters that are more weaker. Though a character that doesn't rely entirely upon one move also tends to be a preference.
My main gripe with GT goku wasn't even mentioned here. He invalidates big characters in a game where ZBroly was already struggling. His stature lets him low profile so many normals and makes characters like Nappa significantly harder to combo with.
i play with Kurodyne in fortnite and hes so carried in that too
C roa is why I don't play melty. not because I don't want to fight him but because i will absolutely play him.
Izanami my beloved
good ass vid
Johnny was top tier in xrd and hes a bottom tier in strive, but you see, this doesn't matter, because, h e s c o o l.
As someone who played DBFZ day 1 - Present, I can honestly say that nobody got more hate than GT Goku. And that's saying a LOT. I mean, he was forever nicknamed "The Rat" by the community because of how wide spread the hatred was.
Seeing as you talked about DNF in the last vid, I wanna share one of my favorite top tiers from that game: Ranger (warning: massive wall of text ahead). You may be surprised to hear that he was top tier since on release he was considered upper mid tier, but over time his strengths became apparent, even before the grand balance patch he was sitting comfortably with many other absurd characters like berzerker, striker, and hitman, and I think what makes him cool is the reasons for why he was top tier. Lets get the broken stuff out of the way first. Grenade oki was absurd. He could easily route into it from any close-midscreen hit and it have him a 50-50 where he could either go strike or use grenade to combo off throw. This mix is important as ranger hilariously doesn't have a single overhead. Not that he necessarily needs the oki, because he also has could fully guard break someone from grenade oki. If they didn't dp or use guard cancel at the right time, ranger had a TRUE BLOCKSTRING that broke your guard with only 150 mana. This is mostly thanks to 4ms (gun hawk), a special move that locked the opponent down and did ridiculous guard damage. It should be noted, however, that guard breaks are not limited to just ranger, striker also had the same thing without needing a grenade setup (though it did lose more easily to guard cancel). Ranger had many other smaller strengths like good neutral (duh, he's a zoner), mana-efficient combos, and good guard damage in general, but also some big weaknesses you would think would kill the character in a game as absurd as DNF, like a poor reversal, specific anti-airs, below average health, low damage, and all but 2 moves being projectiles. Compared to the tip tiers, it looks like he should be able to maybe compete but lose overall (because the top tiers were all even more absurd). Yet he seemed to have the RIGHT tools for every situation, which is what carried him into S tier. While he had a bad DP, his guard cancel was best in class, with a very large hitbox. His two non-projectile artacks, 2a and 5s, also were great at stuffing projectile invincible attacks. But most of all, he always seemed to have some way around the most stupid tools the other top tiers had. Berserker could get in if he installed, but ranger 5a could snipe the install on reaction, removing the install, on top of the fact that the grenade in grenade oki could punish berserker dp ON HIT. Crusader had some tools to deal with ranger but struggled to set up his own zoning game against rangers much faster projectiles. Hitman struggled a lot to deal with zoning in general, and when in awakening, couldn't dp for free against grenade oki or he would get hit by the grenade (hitman in awakening was able to cancel any mana move into a -5, combos- into- at- least- 50%- of- your- health move, including dp). Even striker and swift master, both of which had excellent projectile invincible attacks, could get stuffed pretty reliable by 2a. There were characters kower on the tier list ranger struggled with, but against the top tiers Ranger just happened to have the right tools that let him become one of the best characters in the game.
Love me some melty blood
You know b janet is not a broken top tier in garou that honor goes too kevin
I wish you showed some footage from pros... would show better how strong the characters are