EDIT: The Klon has now been paid for. Thank you for your viewership 🙏 worth it... right... RIGHT? btw, PLEASE don't miss the jam at 12:30, I really like it
@@DankDynamite it definitely is like 80% there but I definitely heard a "squash" when he switched to it if that makes sense. Like the signal got compressed or something.
the Centaur schematic is available at ElectroSmash, so i built one. Being a hobbyist, i had about 10% of the parts already. Additional quality parts = $49.45 ... Hard to say how long it took to build. Maybe 6 or 8 hours (lots of double-checking, redundant measuring, keeping a clear head, etc.) That site also has an analysis of the circuitry, and it IS advanced over "standard" drive pedals. Developed by the idea man and 2 MIT engineers, it certainly focuses on keeping the audio fidelity throughout the circuitry, and promotes certain harmonics that give it its rich sound. Built by hand throughout the 90s kept its retail price at about 300+ bucks. Then the guy got tired of building them, and here we are $4000 later.
The higher 27vdc operation of the op-amp was designed for a greater slew rate, and you can hear it. And i've got an otherwise tin ear. Rather than manipulating the guitar audio, this circuit, um, caresses (?!) the signal and enriches the output. You can just tell there is something different going on in this pedal rather than just diode clipping.
Did you build it exactly the same with the same parts? I've heard a lot about the very particular germanium diodes that are apparently unattainable nowadays.
@@arthurias7693 Yes! Paid strict attention to parts and schematic. I work at a 55-year-old electronics company that has a fine selection of old components, including the 1N34A germaniums. I'm very lucky to have access to such parts, but don't fret! You can still find 1N34A germanium diodes online.
This is more expensive than my guitar, my other guitar, amp, wah pedal, another pedal, strings picks and straps. Basically this pedal is more then I have spent combined in. 2 years of guitar.
Well this video has aged well haha . It now has a million views . And the petal is 7500 to 10,000 . So you weren’t wrong about value . Hopefully you still have it lol
90% of everyone absolutely loves PRS. Only 15% can afford them lol. (Or are willing to save forever to get one.) I could feed my family for a 6 months for the price of a PRS.
@Richard Phillips Their SE versions are actually cheap and the quality, in my experience, has been much better than Epiphone. And I was a big Epiphone fan until I started playing PRS. I had 2 Epiphones and 2 SE's. I still have one Epi, LP Custom, but I don't touch it anymore. I always reach for my PRS SE instead.
$5000... if you're multi-millionaire and can spay thousands around without blinking an eye. Even then it seems nuts. It just a guitar pedal that makes nice sounds.
The "Build Your Own Clone" version of this pedal sounds damn near 100% identical. Most people won't hear the difference. Really. There are lots of A/B videos. The BYOC version is less than $100.
@Paranoid Drummer Learn to know a joke, lol. I'd never buy one of those entry-level Squiers even as a mod project. The Classic Vibes, on the other hand are almost too good for their price, imo.
@@alexbowman7582 I have two Chinese ones. The contemporary strat is okay for its price but the Classic Vibe honestly feels a more quality instrument than some of the USA models I've briefly tested.
I still love my 90's Squire. Its mildly heavy, never goes out of tune (except once at a gig at Harpers Ferry) and it was my first electric. Still my go to. Though it desperately needs some love right now. A full cleaning and maybe wiring.
@@kali3828 The Line 6 Spider is a very cheap amp modeler from about 20 years ago. It would be considered criminal in many guitar forums to have put that pedal in front of that amp.
@@ichibandude Great guitar, set up one for a friend, didn't want to give it back and they WON'T take money for it! Rats! They don't make them anymore and I Want one......waah....sniff.....
@@lucashernandez8146 That's not tax evasion. He literally can write it off as a business expense. It's not like he gets it for free, it would just mean he saves ~$500 on his tax return.
Way Huge's Conspiracy Theory is pretty much the best affordable Klon clone from my experience ab clones with the actual thing. If you are really poor the mosky horse series is good too but I would go for Conspiracy theory or any legit well built clones.
"There's a mystique to this pedal " Is the only word you got to say to comfort yourself after paying 5 grand for a pedal. But honestly im proud of you for having built this channel up and being able to play a 5 grand pedal for us.
I think the klon clone mini sounded just, of not almost like the real thing. However, not playing it, can't really tell. Glad you got all the likes you needed. Thanks for doing this.
Let's be honest, no matter what that Klon sounded like, we would still convince ourselves that it's the most amazing thing we ever heard so we can justify the price
Holy shit! That solo at the end was other worldly. Wow. You earned a new subscriber. The money we spend on gear is insane but if it's great then it's worth every penny. The tone chase never stops.
Shootout: The Klon takes it clearly, but the little Wampler was like 96% there with it, amazingly. BackingTrack: absolutely transcendent! The tones were inspired, rich, and luscious while your playing was OUT OF THIS WORLD fantastical... so tasteful but at the same time blistering. LIT AF
Brett S there was something there in the recording that was just a touch “more” in the original like a tiny little bit of top end sizzle at the peak of each note and settling nicely as the decay began (?) ... I don’t know. May just be me. I would agree with you that anyone chasing that tone should buy the Wampler for sure. That’s what I’d buy even if they were both affordable... It sounded RAD, indeed. 🤘🏼🤩
@@jerryross821 Like he said at the end there...he felt it did something to his playing....so the Wampler may be every bit as good in sound but just didn't make the fingers flow as well. Sounded damned good to me though so I'm gonna check the Wampler out.
The Wampler sounded almost exact. The treble boost it gives adds clarity to compliment the bass when you’re on the neck pickup. This is no disagreement that the Klon is one of the best distortion pedals ever. If it was paired up with another pedal to muddy it up even more that it would still make the signal that much better. Really helps those upper notes sing with body and clarity. Great video.
@@bartendermike I totally agree. The JHS was slightly different but had all of the same great attributes as the Klon and seemed like it might run a bit hotter. The last pedal was mediocre. With that setup anyway.
I agree with that mostly too. It seemed like the Wampler lost a bit of thickness on the lower strings, though. Still sounded good and it’s capable of doing more than I could completely utilize.
I agree that the Wampler sounded no different than the Klon really from the recording anyway. How they sound raw in the room and uncompressed is a different story.
I agree. I think this video is going to make me want to buy the Wampler Tumnus. 5k for a distortion pedal is reserved for those guys who have a ton of money and the most expensive gear on the planet, but they can't play.
man pedals are probably one of the most profitable goods you can manufacture next to pasta or ice cream. pedals cost literally cents in parts and you can sell em to guitar elitists for ludicrous prices. its like a million % mark up
@@frosty6845 labor for some circuit boards and screws? Apple has people in China working for slave labor to the point where they kill themselves. The labor cost is negligible and certainly doesn’t make up for the cost
@@frosty6845 pedal assembly really isn't that hard/costly especially for hand wired boards or pcb's using throughole components. There are also so many designs available online for different effects that all you would really be doing at the most is tweaking the design a bit to make it unique to you if you even wanted to.
The wampler did sound very similar for most of the “riffs” he played but the ending notes on most of them sounded way better to me on the klon it gave those notes more character to me. The only setting I didn’t like the sound of the klon better than any of the other pedals was when he had it set to 10 o’clock. On that setting for some reason it just sounds too distorted and made the guitar play sound out of time.
I was highly skeptical only hearing about the fabled Klon and never actually hearing it. I have to say that Klon was sweet, way overpriced, but it did sound like the nectar of Gods. Bang for the buck though....Wampler hands down achieved 95% of the Klon sound to my ears
I'm always reading, researching, writing, etc. while watching TH-cam. This video actually made me stop what I was doing and just watch and listen. Great sound and great playing. Thank you!
No pedal is worth 5 grand. Not a one. Oh... and let's not forget he gets to write that shit off of his taxes as a business expense. All these TH-camrs who review products do.
That was an absolutely beautiful, phenominal guitar solo you created... and I'm not one who hands out fluff, so I 100% mean that. Keep shreddin' dude. ✌️
Not sure how much of the gain character is the amp itself, but on first impression *in terms of TONE* : 4) Nobels: Okay but narrow. Dull at high-gain, but clear and nice at low. 3) Wampler: Similar to Klon but a tiny bit messier sounding, something in the lows/low-mids causing slight noise/flub. 2) JHS: Clear, tidy, would work well in a band setting. Great value. Best option for the everyman. 1) Klon: Very professional sheen. but warm, Like you would hear on a record. No weird frequencies poking out. Not worth the price, but sounds the best. JHS overall winner.
Love this video! It just proved that this $5000 pedal sounds the same as the $150 Wampler Tumnus. 😁 And yes, I’m sure that $5000 pedal sounds amazing in the room and makes you want to play more. I have bought amplifiers that are like that. Love what you did at 13:45! Good video, bro!
@Louis Frost I worked at a dog food warehouse years ago. Funny thing is a few human food items were also there among the tons of dog food and dog food smell.
@Common Sense Greed is an overstatement unless we are talking about extremists It's just normal human behaviour/nature Of course you always want better things But the mistake done here is assuming you are always charged more for what is better I'd call it being misinformed or not being objective enough.
The Klon circuit is a good circuit so it sounds good, but it's not magic. There's very little difference between the Klon and the Tumnus and the Tumnus isn't even a direct clone. If you want exact go get a Ceriatone Centura or another of the many boutique direct clones and don't waste $5k on a single pedal. This is buyer psychology to the max. There's no way he'd react like this if it were a blind test and wasn't looking down at a pedal he just dropped $5k on.
Yeah, seriously. Just like some of the comments where people are hearing huge differences... from a video uploaded to youtube. from which the quality is changed by youtube. and then listening to it on their phone, tablet, headphones or computer speakers.
Nailed it. Does it sound better? Maybe, but no way it sounds $5000 better. I'm sure it feels really cool to own such a fabled piece of gear, or maybe he does want to see where the value goes and resell it, but strictly talking about tone, there's no way I could ever justify that investment. Gotta say I was pretty impressed with that little JHS, though. I can't say I actually own any of their products, but I'm a big fan of the company from the way their founder Josh carries himself and sees his role in the guitar world.
There's a REALLY crappy Monet oil painting at the MOMA in SF - a no sky, no shore, no nuthin' view of "a storm at sea" - just a canvass full of c-shaped brush strokes in shades of blue and green, like he was trying to clean his brush. If you saw it at a thrift store or yard sale - you'd pass. But it IS a Monet. Worth a bleeding fortune. BFD...
Stunning. The clarity of the tone was just on a different level. Comes down to how much are you willing to pay for details - but for the professional… It May be worth it
@@theautisticguitarist7560 Oh, I didn't realise, so they already have a clone called "The Klone". In That case I'd have gone for ATK - for Attack of The Klones.
I could definitely notice a muddiness in the treble of the Tumnus that the Klon sings through. Though I'm sure there would be other pedals many money less, of this quality/character.
Thank you for doing *short sound clips* in the comparisons So many channels use such long riffs that you don’t even have the tone in your ears when comparing it to the next example!
I just keep coming back to this because of the solo you play at the end .. it inspires me, even though I have no intention of putting in the work to play those scales and improves .. Awesome playing man .. keep it up.
The Centura is the best clone. Looks exactly the same and sounds almost identical. I A/B’d it with a Klon KTR and it’s super close even though the KTR is different than the gold Klon.
The Nobel sounds muted compared to the other three. The JHS sounds really tinny. The Wampler is closest to the real deal. I think the Centaur sounds the best across each test, but that price tag though!!!
I bought my Klon when it first came out in the 90s. It was on EBay and I kept getting out bid by other buyers. I was a college student and didn’t have the funds to win bids. So another Klon was up for bid and this time I was bidding against a medical doctor (it said on his eBay profile at the time). So I emailed him directly and told him I been getting outbid due to my budget and that I’m currently a college student. He replied back and said, he will stop bidding and hopefully I will win the Centaur. I ended up winning the bid and I’ve owned one of the oldest Klon Centaur ever made. Thanks to that doctor who let me win the bid. Wherever you are Doc, thanks!!!
The tummus was a great alternative. However I agree there is just something about the og that sounds right. Those last solos were some of the best things I’ve ever heard on an electric guitar.
Agreed. Out of all the other cheaper alternatives I think the Tummus was the closest for sure. Og sounded outstanding tho. Just had that little extra something. That “something” costs about $4900 to achieve apparently 😂
@@liamwagner9160 in a blind sound test you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between that $5000 pedal versus the right set of much more affordable plugins on a PC, and if you could tell you’d be a very rare specimen
I closed my eyes and couldn't tell the difference at all between the Klon and the Tumnus. They sound exactly the same to me albeit I'm not in the actual room. The JHS Overdrive also sounded very similar. I've never liked the sound of the Nobels though.
I honestly think reverb fakes that to make people impulse buy, hence Tyler sarcastically saying if he doesn't get it right away someone else will. Most items I watch on reverb multiple people have "in cart" so Im skeptical.
I come back to this once a month or so to listen to the solo at the end. Possibly my favouite guitar solo I have ever heard. Something in it just hits me every time. Well done and thanks!
I'm working in the studio professionally for 25 years now. I had all the pedals in the control room, but that pedal does some magic. As if the nebula has been breathed away. Astounding, ineed.
The Wampler and the JHS sounded very similar to the Centaur with the JHS sounding a fair bit brighter but the Nobles pedal just sounded dull in comparison. Depending on price for the sound I would go for the JHS or Wampler but at this point the Centaur is more of an investment than a piece of music gear (a bit like bidding on Jimi Hendrix's Strat).
@@youbi179 Yeah. Super close. I was considering Ryra as well. Sounds great... but I'm leaning toward the Mythical Overdrive because it comes with the option to add some additional overdrive tone options with a toggle switch.
I have to say, that jam at the end really took me somewhere else, man what a tone, and such sensitive playing, and for all the support and great videos you've given the guitar community, I think it's safe to say that you've earned this one Tyler!
They went in prepared, didn't waste any time. Finished recording a 37 minute album in 6 sessions. Had they screwed off and wasted time writing songs at the studio...
@@myless.5493 Hah. Not only "an" album, but arguably one of the most famous albums ever written. That is definitely a fun little tidbit. Though, at $600, you can say that about a whole lotta things.
I thought the same thing. Not indistinguishable from this particular Klon but very close, and probably indistinguishable from the one they reverse engineered
Great sounding pedal you can really hear the difference in the 3rd test at 10:50 amazing clear and crisp sou d brings out the highs lows in such a balance
EDIT: The Klon has now been paid for. Thank you for your viewership 🙏
worth it... right... RIGHT? btw, PLEASE don't miss the jam at 12:30, I really like it
Yes 100%
Yes
Yes
Idk
not if you think 5,000$ is expensive :P i think 100 dollars is expensive ;-;
Whenever I feel bad about buying a piece of 200 dollar gear I watch these video
then you remember he made almost all of that back from the views
@@TwskiTV you could prolly remove the almost now :D
I apply this to both golf clubs and guitar gear. Thinking about applying it to cars as well, and bikes. Where my wife gone? Sarah.....?
Doing this right now.
@@Duarte842 same
This video is the best free advertisement for the Tumnus Brian Wampler could have ever hoped for. Just perfect!
For real it sounds exactly like the klon to me
+1
@@DankDynamite it definitely is like 80% there but I definitely heard a "squash" when he switched to it if that makes sense. Like the signal got compressed or something.
Thought the exact same thing. It's now on my ever growing list of sh*t I don't need.
@@DankDynamite Gives more bottem end where the klon sounds tighter and more crisp imo
"Let's see what this Gain knob does" ...said every guitarist ever.
When he said "let's turn up the gain a little" and cranked it halfway i laughed
lol
Wtf He said this right when I scrolled down and saw this comment lmao
Lol
lol true
the Centaur schematic is available at ElectroSmash, so i built one.
Being a hobbyist, i had about 10% of the parts already. Additional quality parts = $49.45 ...
Hard to say how long it took to build. Maybe 6 or 8 hours (lots of double-checking, redundant measuring, keeping a clear head, etc.)
That site also has an analysis of the circuitry, and it IS advanced over "standard" drive pedals.
Developed by the idea man and 2 MIT engineers, it certainly focuses on keeping the audio fidelity
throughout the circuitry, and promotes certain harmonics that give it its rich sound.
Built by hand throughout the 90s kept its retail price at about 300+ bucks.
Then the guy got tired of building them, and here we are $4000 later.
How does yours sound?
The higher 27vdc operation of the op-amp was designed for a greater slew rate, and you can hear it. And i've got an otherwise tin ear.
Rather than manipulating the guitar audio, this circuit, um, caresses (?!) the signal and enriches the output. You can just tell there is something different going on in this pedal rather than just diode clipping.
Here we are... Lol
Did you build it exactly the same with the same parts? I've heard a lot about the very particular germanium diodes that are apparently unattainable nowadays.
@@arthurias7693 Yes! Paid strict attention to parts and schematic. I work at a 55-year-old electronics company that has a fine selection of old components, including the 1N34A germaniums.
I'm very lucky to have access to such parts, but don't fret! You can still find 1N34A germanium diodes online.
I'm glad you opened it up. I like the goop shot. (that sounded wrong)
R.J. Ronquillo 🤢
🤮
That's what she said
Hahhaaaa my man!
Its called the money shot
When this guy's pedal is more expensive than your entire studio setup
Hehe just the set up?
I know it
when the cheapest pedal is more expensive than your guitar
Lmao
This is more expensive than my guitar, my other guitar, amp, wah pedal, another pedal, strings picks and straps. Basically this pedal is more then I have spent combined in. 2 years of guitar.
Well this video has aged well haha . It now has a million views . And the petal is 7500 to 10,000 . So you weren’t wrong about value . Hopefully you still have it lol
Looked at it today they’re all about 5k.
Or you can get a clone for 100 bucks.
Tyler: "I'm gonna use a couple different guitars to give you a sense of what this pedal can do"
Also Tyler: *proceeds to use three PRS guitars*
Eric Mulligan are you hating on prs my man
@@andrewdupree4165 I think our buddy here just wanted a little more variety in the brands
90% of everyone absolutely loves PRS. Only 15% can afford them lol. (Or are willing to save forever to get one.) I could feed my family for a 6 months for the price of a PRS.
@@andrewdupree4165 Not hating on PRS, was just expecting a lil more brand variety haha
@Richard Phillips Their SE versions are actually cheap and the quality, in my experience, has been much better than Epiphone. And I was a big Epiphone fan until I started playing PRS. I had 2 Epiphones and 2 SE's. I still have one Epi, LP Custom, but I don't touch it anymore. I always reach for my PRS SE instead.
Here, take this thumbs up...for the algorithm.
And the money, Rhett. The money.
We need to get him on trending after that.
I felt too bad not to 😂
Rhett.. when are YOU going to buy one of these magic pedals for us to hear your guitars through??! Haha
@@toddbeeman5933 I think he bought one when he was in england
alternative title:
14 minutes of Tyler trying to justify his 5 thousand dollar purchase of a guitar pedal.
with 2 minutes of sex at the end
Lmao yeah
$5000... if you're multi-millionaire and can spay thousands around without blinking an eye. Even then it seems nuts. It just a guitar pedal that makes nice sounds.
The "Build Your Own Clone" version of this pedal sounds damn near 100% identical. Most people won't hear the difference. Really. There are lots of A/B videos. The BYOC version is less than $100.
Seriously though Tyler blows some cash. I dont know if he recoups it from the views but I sure dont see how.
The Tumnus held it's own. I wouldn't say it outshined the Centaur but it does the Centaur well. The Centaur sounded incredible
Me when ordering a $130 Squier: "Ugh, I feel sick, I need a beer..."
@Paranoid Drummer Learn to know a joke, lol. I'd never buy one of those entry-level Squiers even as a mod project. The Classic Vibes, on the other hand are almost too good for their price, imo.
69 likes, nice
The Indonesian squiers are more expensive but very good.
@@alexbowman7582 I have two Chinese ones. The contemporary strat is okay for its price but the Classic Vibe honestly feels a more quality instrument than some of the USA models I've briefly tested.
I still love my 90's Squire. Its mildly heavy, never goes out of tune (except once at a gig at Harpers Ferry) and it was my first electric. Still my go to. Though it desperately needs some love right now. A full cleaning and maybe wiring.
*brings out Line-6*
Me: "Oh Jesus!"
MIW: "Just kidding"
Don't ever joke like that again or I'll sue you, lol!
I think we all thought that, which is why the gag worked.
I too watched the video.
Im not a gear guy. Can someone explain the joke??
@@kali3828 The Line 6 Spider is a very cheap amp modeler from about 20 years ago. It would be considered criminal in many guitar forums to have put that pedal in front of that amp.
@@brettmarlar4154 oh, got it lmao. I thought that line 6 amp was high end. I was thinking of line 6 helix
When his pedal is 20 times more expensive than your entire setup...
haha saaame im still rocking the affinity strat and keyboard amp
it's precisely 5k more expensive than mine.
Entire guitar pedal and amp collection 😂😂
@@ichibandude Great guitar, set up one for a friend, didn't want to give it back and they WON'T take money for it! Rats! They don't make them anymore and I Want one......waah....sniff.....
His guitar pedal is more expensive than my house
You probably won’t ever read this but that solo at the end was freaking perfect.
Amen to that
indeed
Yeah. I thought he was just a noodler until that solo happened.
For real!!!
Did you messed up your pants too? Yea... I didn’t.... hahah
Goals: Buy a Klon, write it off as a business expense.
Adam Taylor 😂
Nothing like tax evasion
@@lucashernandez8146 That's not tax evasion. He literally can write it off as a business expense. It's not like he gets it for free, it would just mean he saves ~$500 on his tax return.
That's exactly how people evade taxes.
Way Huge's Conspiracy Theory is pretty much the best affordable Klon clone from my experience ab clones with the actual thing. If you are really poor the mosky horse series is good too but I would go for Conspiracy theory or any legit well built clones.
"There's a mystique to this pedal " Is the only word you got to say to comfort yourself after paying 5 grand for a pedal.
But honestly im proud of you for having built this channel up and being able to play a 5 grand pedal for us.
I think the klon clone mini sounded just, of not almost like the real thing. However, not playing it, can't really tell. Glad you got all the likes you needed. Thanks for doing this.
Sounded a little more bright and tinny. Or hollow compared to the warmth of the original.
@@waterlife.1905yeah if you listen closely but it’s not a radical difference
Let's be honest, no matter what that Klon sounded like, we would still convince ourselves that it's the most amazing thing we ever heard so we can justify the price
We need this to hit 1M in this vid cause Jesus Christ did Tyler go big with this one
You're providing a valuable service, Tyler. On behalf of all guitarists everywhere, thank you :-D
Holy shit! That solo at the end was other worldly. Wow. You earned a new subscriber. The money we spend on gear is insane but if it's great then it's worth every penny. The tone chase never stops.
I’d rate:
1. Klon
2. Wampler
3.JHS
4. Nobles
But the wampler is definitely the smarter route.
100% agree
The Nobles sounded really good at low gain IMO. It was underwhelming past 12 though.
Agreed.
100%
Agreeing with your rank
Shootout: The Klon takes it clearly, but the little Wampler was like 96% there with it, amazingly. BackingTrack: absolutely transcendent! The tones were inspired, rich, and luscious while your playing was OUT OF THIS WORLD fantastical... so tasteful but at the same time blistering. LIT AF
Brett S there was something there in the recording that was just a touch “more” in the original like a tiny little bit of top end sizzle at the peak of each note and settling nicely as the decay began (?) ... I don’t know. May just be me. I would agree with you that anyone chasing that tone should buy the Wampler for sure. That’s what I’d buy even if they were both affordable... It sounded RAD, indeed. 🤘🏼🤩
@@jerryross821 Like he said at the end there...he felt it did something to his playing....so the Wampler may be every bit as good in sound but just didn't make the fingers flow as well. Sounded damned good to me though so I'm gonna check the Wampler out.
Yes to all
Now he can put it back in the box and sell it during his retirement years.
96.9%
This comment is just to help him pay for the pedal
lol
fax
Same
Wata nice guy
lol I think he knows exactly what he's doing
@@bigsnacks913 Well he should, right? That's literally his job.
I’m watching this in 2023 and the gold horsie on reverb is 7,500 bucks, Tyler made a great purchase
I met an old car dealer, who once told me. "there is an ass for every seat"...
Yup, my boss used to always say that at the dealership.
🤣🤣🤣
So what you’re saying is, there’s a foot for every pedal?
Lol, I immediately thought of Danny Devito in Matilda...
Wife: "When did you get that pedal?"
Music is Win: "I've always had it."
Wife: "How much was it?"
Music is Win: "Not that much...."
Wife: "You know that I can watch TH-cam too, don't you?"
Damn, the sheer accuracy of that conversation is unbelievable.
literally every conversation I have with my wife about my stuff.
Hahah, like I do with my wife))
Digitech with drop tune 350bucks
How much it was
Oh, 30 bucks
It was a gift.
My jaw dropped when you switched to the tumnus. Sounded practically exactly like the klon!
Guitar had to smoke an entire pack of cigarettes after that solo.
my thoughts exactly! 😂
lucky strikes.
no filter. 👌
Plot twist: he was using a boss DS1 the whole time
Plot twist it was a metal zone the whole time
@@dcdanger7597 was just going to leave this comment
So was I.
I knew something was up😂😂
i'm gonna dig up his coffin after he's buried cause he will still have it on him
The Wampler sounded almost exact. The treble boost it gives adds clarity to compliment the bass when you’re on the neck pickup. This is no disagreement that the Klon is one of the best distortion pedals ever. If it was paired up with another pedal to muddy it up even more that it would still make the signal that much better. Really helps those upper notes sing with body and clarity. Great video.
@@bartendermike I totally agree. The JHS was slightly different but had all of the same great attributes as the Klon and seemed like it might run a bit hotter. The last pedal was mediocre. With that setup anyway.
I agree with that mostly too. It seemed like the Wampler lost a bit of thickness on the lower strings, though.
Still sounded good and it’s capable of doing more than I could completely utilize.
I'd rather get the Wampler and a KIA SOUL.
I agree that the Wampler sounded no different than the Klon really from the recording anyway. How they sound raw in the room and uncompressed is a different story.
I agree. I think this video is going to make me want to buy the Wampler Tumnus. 5k for a distortion pedal is reserved for those guys who have a ton of money and the most expensive gear on the planet, but they can't play.
"These go to eleven"
"For four thousand dollars, I'll build you one that goes to twelve."
Build it, have him compare them, and (assuming it's true) I'll take two.... waiting...
man pedals are probably one of the most profitable goods you can manufacture next to pasta or ice cream. pedals cost literally cents in parts and you can sell em to guitar elitists for ludicrous prices. its like a million % mark up
You completely forgot about the part that labor goes into the price of things
If you know how to build them and spend a lot of time doing it then maybe
@@frosty6845 labor for some circuit boards and screws? Apple has people in China working for slave labor to the point where they kill themselves. The labor cost is negligible and certainly doesn’t make up for the cost
@@frosty6845 pedal assembly really isn't that hard/costly especially for hand wired boards or pcb's using throughole components.
There are also so many designs available online for different effects that all you would really be doing at the most is tweaking the design a bit to make it unique to you if you even wanted to.
I actually believe the Klondike were quite expensive and time consuming to make. That’s why the original maker stopped making them
Biggest surprise was the wampler that sounded almost identical to the Centaur.
The wampler did sound very similar for most of the “riffs” he played but the ending notes on most of them sounded way better to me on the klon it gave those notes more character to me. The only setting I didn’t like the sound of the klon better than any of the other pedals was when he had it set to 10 o’clock. On that setting for some reason it just sounds too distorted and made the guitar play sound out of time.
@@centurion4714 10 o'clock is roughly ¼
Listen again on good headphones or good wide freq range flat monitors.
Because it’s designed to sound like the Klon and Brian Wampler is a clever guy who knows what he’s doing. 🤷🏼♂️
@@nohavermillion maybe if we had a 40 hour day!
That solo at the end is legendary, as a guitarist of 4 years I could tell he was feeling himself🤘🏽
🤣 I expect he probably was. After spending $5000 on a pedal you’re gonna need some sort of light relief.
@@statueoftheabyss6886 very true 😂😂
🤣
Just what I was thinking, damn son hit those changes!!
Hunter Biden said one full of crack, most certainly is...
I was highly skeptical only hearing about the fabled Klon and never actually hearing it. I have to say that Klon was sweet, way overpriced, but it did sound like the nectar of Gods. Bang for the buck though....Wampler hands down achieved 95% of the Klon sound to my ears
I'm always reading, researching, writing, etc. while watching TH-cam. This video actually made me stop what I was doing and just watch and listen. Great sound and great playing. Thank you!
The Wampler sounded SO close to the KLON. I dont think anyone could tell in a blindfold test and especially in a mix.
I Concur...
Exactly
It lost a little on the low side, but ya it’s pretty damn close!
It might sound the same by what your ears hearing but the finger tips would tell way so much different.
Agreed.
"I feel something from this pedal" - Sir what you are feeling is how your wallet is 5000 bucks lighter.
No pedal is worth 5 grand. Not a one. Oh... and let's not forget he gets to write that shit off of his taxes as a business expense. All these TH-camrs who review products do.
G S - well of course, you have to spend money to generate business revenue.
You’ve unlocked the “Golden Centaur of Shred” achievement. 😂
That too😂😂😎
@@GS-vb3zn first it does sound extraordinary great, plus it’s rare, so yes it costs that
I nearly choked on my pizza when Tyler brought out the Line 6.
It was a great fake out, proper gave me a good laugh :D
I was like "DUDE there's no way you'r-never mind."
Hilarious!!!
11 months down the road and it still sounds amazing compared to the other pedals!
Next video is gonna be like "So, I just received the divorce papers from my wife."
"I just bought a $1800 RV 'cause the wife filed for divorce"
Next weeks video:
"I chopped off my pinky. Will it affect my playing?"
No he doesn't play with his pinkie
There are rare moments when magic happens. The last thing you played, with the backing track, was magic.
That's what all this is about.
Couldn't agree more, the notes he picked was really on point. There was something David Gilmoury about it, but more progressive. beautiful!
I agree, his playing is way out there.
Yeah - that's absolutely gorgeous.
That was an absolutely beautiful, phenominal guitar solo you created... and I'm not one who hands out fluff, so I 100% mean that. Keep shreddin' dude. ✌️
For that price it should include David Gilmour,
this is underrated
bruh u savage ^^
For that price EVH better come out of the grave and endorse it!
Too soon?
@@Wulfdojo 😂
That ending jam definitely had some Shine On You Crazy Diamond vibes to it
Holy f. your ending solo with that tone... divine. moving, actually
Divinity is a lot harsher and fizzier than i’d hoped
Anyone know what that song’s called?
@@heddanvdalbraaten5167 pretty sure hes just noodling or something
Not sure how much of the gain character is the amp itself, but on first impression *in terms of TONE* :
4) Nobels: Okay but narrow. Dull at high-gain, but clear and nice at low.
3) Wampler: Similar to Klon but a tiny bit messier sounding, something in the lows/low-mids causing slight noise/flub.
2) JHS: Clear, tidy, would work well in a band setting. Great value. Best option for the everyman.
1) Klon: Very professional sheen. but warm, Like you would hear on a record. No weird frequencies poking out. Not worth the price, but sounds the best.
JHS overall winner.
Just here to congratulate on your 1Mil+ views! It paid for your beautiful Klon! Congrats!
Just ordered Wampler Tumnus Germanium!
I’m going to like this because you need the like after this.
You deserved to get that pedal considering how beautifully you're able to play through it.. that was beautiful.
I literally said "Come on man, through a line 6!?!?!?" LOL
Same haha
@ytub yt yes, for beginners
Price aside, it sounded heavenly to me.
It absolutely did! :D
Heavynly hehe
Love this video! It just proved that this $5000 pedal sounds the same as the $150 Wampler Tumnus. 😁 And yes, I’m sure that $5000 pedal sounds amazing in the room and makes you want to play more. I have bought amplifiers that are like that.
Love what you did at 13:45! Good video, bro!
Apple understood this glitch in human psychology "When something cost more than everything else we cannot help but feel that it must be better"
so true.
going with the tumnus or the jhs any time.
@Louis Frost definitely, yes. been in advertising 30 ys. but still baffles me.
@Louis Frost I worked at a dog food warehouse years ago. Funny thing is a few human food items were also there among the tons of dog food and dog food smell.
@Common Sense that's any generation.... this "glitch" is a human condition and has been around since the dawn of time....
@Common Sense Greed is an overstatement unless we are talking about extremists
It's just normal human behaviour/nature
Of course you always want better things
But the mistake done here is assuming you are always charged more for what is better
I'd call it being misinformed or not being objective enough.
That last solo sounds like the perfect combo of Joe Satriani and David Gilmour
Yoo faxxx
Wow yes! It really did actually!
I hear none of Joe's signature spazzy legato runs :(
I HEARD SOME JASON BECKER PERSPECTIVE IN THE JAM WITH THAT PDL
The Klon circuit is a good circuit so it sounds good, but it's not magic. There's very little difference between the Klon and the Tumnus and the Tumnus isn't even a direct clone. If you want exact go get a Ceriatone Centura or another of the many boutique direct clones and don't waste $5k on a single pedal.
This is buyer psychology to the max. There's no way he'd react like this if it were a blind test and wasn't looking down at a pedal he just dropped $5k on.
Yeah, seriously. Just like some of the comments where people are hearing huge differences...
from a video uploaded to youtube.
from which the quality is changed by youtube.
and then listening to it on their phone, tablet, headphones or computer speakers.
The Ceriatone Centura is fantastic. The best replica I've ever heard and seen.
Nailed it. Does it sound better? Maybe, but no way it sounds $5000 better. I'm sure it feels really cool to own such a fabled piece of gear, or maybe he does want to see where the value goes and resell it, but strictly talking about tone, there's no way I could ever justify that investment.
Gotta say I was pretty impressed with that little JHS, though. I can't say I actually own any of their products, but I'm a big fan of the company from the way their founder Josh carries himself and sees his role in the guitar world.
I thought the centaur clone he had in the video and compared sounded pretty much on par
There's a REALLY crappy Monet oil painting at the MOMA in SF - a no sky, no shore, no nuthin' view of "a storm at sea" - just a canvass full of c-shaped brush strokes in shades of blue and green, like he was trying to clean his brush. If you saw it at a thrift store or yard sale - you'd pass. But it IS a Monet. Worth a bleeding fortune. BFD...
Stunning. The clarity of the tone was just on a different level. Comes down to how much are you willing to pay for details - but for the professional… It May be worth it
"There is something in the way this makes me play"
Yes, the price.
Jurek My hands would be shaking knowing how much I paid for it, so yeah, that’d probably affect my playing, too! 😂
You mean just like what Tyler said is likely to be the reason...like 4 times?
The Tumnus is honestly close enough to be amazing, and for everyone who can't afford a Klon, it's basically the same
yup
Tumnus was very close if not slightly better, but once in a mix who would know other than your bank manager? But why didn't he call it "The Klone"?
@@watercolourmark id imagine because it be like calling it the "please sue me".
@@theautisticguitarist7560 Oh, I didn't realise, so they already have a clone called "The Klone". In That case I'd have gone for ATK - for Attack of The Klones.
I could definitely notice a muddiness in the treble of the Tumnus that the Klon sings through. Though I'm sure there would be other pedals many money less, of this quality/character.
I’m now waiting for a “I broke a 5000 dollar guitar pedal” video
Thank you for doing *short sound clips* in the comparisons
So many channels use such long riffs that you don’t even have the tone in your ears when comparing it to the next example!
Nobody:
Music is win: Thats Way Too Expensive!
Him 2 seconds later: alright lets buy it.
Dude
Azunyan!!
Junchan!
we still do the imaginary dialog?
@@duroxkilo yes
It's like an "overfuzz'" "overface" "Fuzzerdrive" whatever you wanna call it, I think you know what I mean.
agreed. sounds like fuzz and overdrive at the same time lol. I love it
This is exactly what I came to the comments to say lol
Dude. It's the special "tone paint" that makes all the difference.
I just keep coming back to this because of the solo you play at the end .. it inspires me, even though I have no intention of putting in the work to play those scales and improves .. Awesome playing man .. keep it up.
Me : *Notices mom have 5'000 in her bank account*
Me: Oh yeah it's show time
the clone is really really close, the jhs sounds surprisingly good too.
Which one is the JHS?
The Centura is the best clone. Looks exactly the same and sounds almost identical. I A/B’d it with a Klon KTR and it’s super close even though the KTR is different than the gold Klon.
The Nobel sounds muted compared to the other three. The JHS sounds really tinny. The Wampler is closest to the real deal. I think the Centaur sounds the best across each test, but that price tag though!!!
@@wjspade the Centaur definitely sound awesome.
The Centaur is an actual klon.......
When I saw this in my buddy’s shop for $800 I thought “hell no”, now I’m like “Damnit!!!”.
The isle of tone are great ones too you should check those out
I bought my Klon when it first came out in the 90s. It was on EBay and I kept getting out bid by other buyers. I was a college student and didn’t have the funds to win bids. So another Klon was up for bid and this time I was bidding against a medical doctor (it said on his eBay profile at the time). So I emailed him directly and told him I been getting outbid due to my budget and that I’m currently a college student. He replied back and said, he will stop bidding and hopefully I will win the Centaur. I ended up winning the bid and I’ve owned one of the oldest Klon Centaur ever made. Thanks to that doctor who let me win the bid. Wherever you are Doc, thanks!!!
The tummus was a great alternative.
However I agree there is just something about the og that sounds right. Those last solos were some of the best things I’ve ever heard on an electric guitar.
Agreed. Out of all the other cheaper alternatives I think the Tummus was the closest for sure. Og sounded outstanding tho. Just had that little extra something. That “something” costs about $4900 to achieve apparently 😂
@@liamwagner9160 in a blind sound test you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between that $5000 pedal versus the right set of much more affordable plugins on a PC, and if you could tell you’d be a very rare specimen
I suspect that if he hadn't shown what pedals were being used when, it would be very hard to tell which was which.
I closed my eyes and couldn't tell the difference at all between the Klon and the Tumnus. They sound exactly the same to me albeit I'm not in the actual room. The JHS Overdrive also sounded very similar. I've never liked the sound of the Nobels though.
Touring with that pedal would be so damn stressful. You'd have to get the klon it's own security guard.
Ok that pinch harmonic he hit at the start of the backing track was delicious.....so few players realize how precise those are.
Especially with such a clean tone. They're easy peasy with plenty of distortion but it's hard to get it to pinch just right when it's clean
Backfireoftheworld yeah Ik right is was so good 🙌
Sounds incredible. That tone made me smile.
But the price tag won’t make anyone smile.
Imagine being the guy who had this in his cart and seeing this video
I honestly think reverb fakes that to make people impulse buy, hence Tyler sarcastically saying if he doesn't get it right away someone else will. Most items I watch on reverb multiple people have "in cart" so Im skeptical.
Hi from Belgium
5k is worth travelling to Belgium to forget your girlfriend.
Or a used car, or sometimes a new car, or rent,food and other bills. Fuck that price im ok with my meh of a multipedal that do the job just fine
Sometimes we hear with our eyes.
And our wallets.
word, you can build one of these for 30 bucks.
helen keller disagrees
Sometimes my eyes are bigger than my stomach.
@@User37123-l omg that’s so funny and cruel
I come back to this once a month or so to listen to the solo at the end. Possibly my favouite guitar solo I have ever heard. Something in it just hits me every time. Well done and thanks!
I'm working in the studio professionally for 25 years now. I had all the pedals in the control room, but that pedal does some magic. As if the nebula has been breathed away. Astounding, ineed.
The Wampler and the JHS sounded very similar to the Centaur with the JHS sounding a fair bit brighter but the Nobles pedal just sounded dull in comparison. Depending on price for the sound I would go for the JHS or Wampler but at this point the Centaur is more of an investment than a piece of music gear (a bit like bidding on Jimi Hendrix's Strat).
Yeah, to me the Wampler sounded better
@@DrFeltcher I agree with you (ear twins) Wampler was best and JHS was exactly the same - I couldn't tell them apart.
The Wampler and the centaur are almost the same, they all sound amazing. Centuar still the best
I use a Ryra Klone. Basically the same pedal. But less expensive.
@@youbi179 Yeah. Super close. I was considering Ryra as well. Sounds great... but I'm leaning toward the Mythical Overdrive because it comes with the option to add some additional overdrive tone options with a toggle switch.
The jam at the end gave me goosebumps and Pink Floyd vibes, in that order. Wowie.
That solo is better than anything David Gilmour ever played! 😂
Who watched this after watching the the $500,000 Klon Centaur Pedal video 😂
Me lmao
Me ton
Right here.
Me
Dude, does the IRS let you write this off as a job-related expense? Hope so.
Of course
100%
Pornstars get tax breaks on sex toys they use in videos
@@laa0fa502 lmao
Does that also mean you can claim it as a loss on your taxes if this video doesn't get 1m views?
The ending solo of ending jam is unbelievable. What a tone and playing..
What’s that solo’s name?
@@umityasar5998 it`s an improvisation man
yes it was great. It reminded me Andy Timmon's "Cry for you"
I have to say, that jam at the end really took me somewhere else, man what a tone, and such sensitive playing, and for all the support and great videos you've given the guitar community, I think it's safe to say that you've earned this one Tyler!
I couldn't agree more. I love that atmospheric playing, and he nailed it. Tone and all. Beautiful.
At 8:17 you can see Tyler give a little grin like "Holy shit I am making this sound!"
The Wampler comes the closest to being identical in tone IMHO.
I thought they where identical haha
Have your like, good man.
And you as well
Maxwell Pellinger and you as well
@@dr.lopezramon2582 and you as well
@@pianopersona8822 and you as well
@@swagonelevenatalltimes and you as well
This guitar pedal costs more than the entire budget for Nirvana's Bleach album
Guitar Pedal: $4600
Bleach: $600
They went in prepared, didn't waste any time. Finished recording a 37 minute album in 6 sessions. Had they screwed off and wasted time writing songs at the studio...
@@freedustin They were definitely prepared. I just find it funny how a pedal costs more than an album essentially
@@myless.5493 Hah. Not only "an" album, but arguably one of the most famous albums ever written. That is definitely a fun little tidbit. Though, at $600, you can say that about a whole lotta things.
Is that 600 1980s dollars?
@@95slowdiver Yeah, now its about $1300
Who’s here after he bought a pedal 100x the price 😎
No one.
I bought a digitech whammy and thought 500 dollars was a lot lol.
@Aubert Lachance are you a bot
this was a true testament to how great of pedal builders Wampler is.
117% Tumnus Deluxe is amazing
I thought the same thing. Not indistinguishable from this particular Klon but very close, and probably indistinguishable from the one they reverse engineered
Bang on, my thought too
Right on. The Tumnus blew me away in this shootout.
Pedal: *doubles in price*
Tyler: That’s outrageous! Done.
Buys $5,000 guitar pedal. Uses horribly mis-sized screwdriver and freaks out gearheads and OCD kids worldwide.
I had the same 😂 started screaming at the screen
HA. same here. "Get a proper screwdriver to mess with the $5K pedal!"
Amen
So glad I'm not the only one.....phew...
I saw that.... I thought I would be the only person bothered by that. LOL
Great sounding pedal you can really hear the difference in the 3rd test at 10:50 amazing clear and crisp sou d brings out the highs lows in such a balance
Can’t imagine Bethany’s face after seeing the price of that
Our views paid for it.
@@chairmankaga2821 no not yet still about 940,000 more views till its paid for...
My wallet was slowly dying reading that title.....
This is what corona does to people.
Lolllll
Yes, I’ve had bout dozen and I’m gonna buy a pedal
You're an amazing player!
The harmony or octaves, or whatever that layered thickness, in that pedal is sick!