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Today we're going to be taking a look at, then we'll show you to install the Timbren Axle-less Trailer Suspension System. These are available in multiple configurations to fit most applications. Just check our website out for details. Today specifically we're going to be using part number ASR3500S05. This is a spindle only configuration for 3,500 pound axles. With the spindle only configuration we're going to be reusing our bearings, we're going to be reusing our brakes and our drums.
You may want to pick up some new seals if you're going to go this route. We also have the full kits available with the brakes, the drums, and everything that you'll need. The Timbren Axle-less Suspension is an excellent, excellent product. You can tell an immediate difference as soon as we start hauling our trailer with the items installed. It's much, much quieter, much smoother, you don't feel the weight in the truck nearly as much as you did with that standard suspension. You can see as we're cornering there's no transfer of weight.
They're working independently to keep our trailer nice and level. Here's what our kit's going to look like installed. This axle-less suspension system from Timbren is kind of a solution for all that noise and everything that we typically get with our trailers; real rough ride. Now, they use 2 rubber springs essentially, they're Aeon rubber springs. We've got our larger one here in the back. This is the main body of the system, and as we load it more and more and more it constantly kind of adapts to that to give us just the ride of support that we need. To keep this constantly under tension so we don't have to ever worry about a lot of that rattling and stuff, we've got a rebound spring right here in the front.
These are designed to work with really any style of trailer frame, no matter of the thickness here. Depending on the application if you've got a really wide trailer, well then you're just going to put the 3 bolts in the side, 3 bolts up through the bottom. We're dealing with a little bit narrower angle channel here, so what we've done is we've put the square tube across the front. You could also design a bracket to go on the side, if you wanted like a gusseted bracket. There's a lot of options out there. We went with the spindle only design.
It's really heavy duty, too. You can really tell about the quality that they've put into the design of it. Going to have a black powder coat finish on all of our surfaces and this real nice thick steel fully welded around all of our points with reinforcement gussets right where we want them. You can just tell it's a really well built system. Another advantage that we're going to see with the axle-less suspension is going to be increased ground clearance. We don't have that axle that typically hangs down here lower. Even with us using the cross tube design or the cross bracing design, it's tucked up right underneath of our trailer. It's even up higher than what our cross members are here for our flooring, so really tucks it up. Then this area down here, you can see smooths off. The axle-less suspension system can also help us with getting our deck height of our trailer where we want it. These are available in both drops and lifts. One of the added benefits that we get out of this axle-less system is that we're not tying this side of the trailer to that side of the trailer with one of those through axles that are going to go right through down here where all our movement's going to actually take place. This allows these to work independently of one another. If - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Thanks! Great vid. Much less intimidating a job than I suspected.
Great video guys, nice and clear explanation of everything going on.
awsom I cannot wait to get my kit for my off road trailer.
Great job on this video. Really helpful! Thanks guys.
2.0 version
Long travel with further pivot points, adjustable coil overs, with specific spring rates.
The overland community thanks you in advance 🤙
Great product to upgrade an older trailer to even better than when it was new, even better for a new trailer and it looks like it will be a weight saver too.
These are a great replacement for a factory axle and leaf springs. With this kit you will have higher ground clearance because you don't have an axle.
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I liked your presentation,clear,and straight away. I will look to your company for my future purchase.
Thank you for the feedback! Check out the following link for more information on this axle-less trailer suspension system.
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can these Axle-less systems be used on Airstreams?...specifically a 1970 Overlander? I find it appealing but not sure if compatible ???
I need a 6 inch drop. I wonder if this will work with air bags to lower my trailer even more
Do you make these for 10 to 12K axles that use tandem duals?
In the UK we've had indespension units for 50 years or more, it's very rare to see a non-commercial trailer with an axle.
Use stover nuts and loctite! After it's installed I'd also put a couple 1/2" tac welds from plate to frame and she's good for life
You can use the methods that you are referring to if you don't want to be able to remove it easily for maintenance or replacement.
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How much speed can this axle less things handle?
That's a clever way to do walking beams and leaf springs bouncing make pulling trailers hard on your automatic transmission
i have seen this work... very impressive and just about faultless 🤠
Thank you for the feedback! We are very happy with the performance with this kit.
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So great! I've needed this info for a while.
These are really cool. You won't have to worry about bottoming out because there's no axle.
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How do you go about torquing the pivot bolt, instructions say 420-470lbs?
Love it. Simple but affective design.
My only struggle on my overland trailer with a current dexter axle is ordering the right height. I cant figure out if standard or 4” lift will be appropriate. Trailer is kind of tall with 32” tires.
You may be better off going with the 4" lift axle-less suspension so that you have extra clearance for overlanding.
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These are only good for lightweight use. Anything that will exceed 5k lbs use axels. These are also prone to swaying. Especially after they have been used for a while.
They are good for adventure/teardrop type campers. Very easy to raise or lower them with this setup.
Make sure to elongate the holes drilled for them and test before welding. You might find yourself pulling a trailer that is pulling to the side.
Since this is a 3500 pound rated axle, it will not work on a five thousand pound trailer.
You can use this design by Timbren for a number of uses that exceed 5,000lbs or more. I was quoted and plan on buying their products for my Black Iron/Full Framed Tiny House on Wheels. I’m just waiting to catch up on other stuff before I redo the suspension for my trailer. I own 8 old trucks as well so they take up a bunch of my money haha.
Timbren has a 7000 lb model.
These suspensions do require lubrication! you must lubricate them if you want long life out of the pivot bushes, that is why there is the grease nipple in the bottom of the trailing arm
i’m ordering a set today for my off-road trailer.
We love hearing this! Let us know how you like them by leaving a review on our product page.
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Fantastic 👍
Thank you for the feedback! Check out the following link for more information on this kit.
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These look really good. One of the things I worry about with my leaf-sprung cargo trailer camper is breaking springs when camping in remote areas off-road. Do you know if Timbren has tested these to failure? Any idea what the “weak link” is and what good emergency repair parts would be?
This kit would be great for exactly what you are wanting to do! There is nothing to get in the way when going off road or to get caught in the leaf springs.
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@@etrailer thanks! I’m folding these axles into my plans.
What about tandem applications? Is there a way to equalize the pairs or would it be independent?
For a tandem trailer you can use two sets of the Timbren systems however a third set for triple axle trailers is too much. The third axle will scrub too much for the Timbrens take. They'll be independent of one another.
Another option for tandem trailers is the Silent Ride www.etrailer.com/dept-pg-Trailer_Leaf_Spring_Suspension-co-Tandem_Axle-pm-Timbren.aspx These replace the suspension of a tandem trailer but you still use your standard axles.
-Chuck S
What wall thickness of square tubing should you use for the crossbar ?
We used scare tubing with 1/4" wall thickness because we wanted it to be stout enough to handle the loads we are going to carry.
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It's a good set up but that doesn't work in corrugation outback Australia
how does this compare to a torsion axle? i have had good luck with the torsion axles on my 10,000lb work trailer. had lots of wear and maintenance on the leaf sprung axles on my car trailer looking to change at some point.
These axle-less systems are a bit different than a traditional torsion axle. The axle-less system is nice because if you hit a bump on the one side of the trailer, the other side of the trailer does not recoil from the bump. I have provided a link to the 5200 lb kits that we carry.
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How do you know what hubs to buy to fit the axel? I don't want to buy the wrong hubs
You need to make sure that the hubs use the same bearings and grease seal as the spindle. You can either find the part numbers for these on the bearings and grease seal directly or you can use a digital caliper and measure the locations on the spindle that those parts ride to the nearest thousandths. Below is a link to our selection of hubs and drums as well as a link to an FAQ on bearings and seals. If you still need some assistance you can reach out to us directly here www.etrailer.com/customer-service.aspx
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a piece of tape on the back side of a wrench to hold the nut works well. :)
Thank you for sharing this with us! It's always good to learn new techniques for future installs.
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the loose fit tube steel cross member and two bolts one side look like an ineffective stiffening arrangement
A tip: watch series at Flixzone. Me and my gf have been using it for watching a lot of movies recently.
@Brooks Rafael yea, I have been watching on flixzone for since november myself :D
Squirt some water on the hole ...you can cut right thru with half inch bit no sweat ... will be using these axles from now on..
Wonder how I could work around not using the cross tube and build a drop down trailer.
What you're wanting to do is beyond our expertise. We'd recommend finding a local trailer shop that's experienced in fabrication....
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How well does this set up work off-road? I’m starting a trailer conversion and if this set up can handle light off-road I may have to grab a couple
Many people have used this for off road trailers. It is really nice because you don't have to worry about the axle hitting anything when you are out on a trail.
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i installed these as a third axle on my short bus for towing. used 7k rated set an i dont have amy complaints
Thank you for sharing this with us and others! This is a great kit and it's very straight forward to get installed.
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thank you for detail video
great ideal setup like will work 3500kg 4 wheels car trailer?
We are happy to help! You will need a kit that is rated for more weight. Check out the following link to see the kit we would recommend for your set up.
www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Leaf-Spring-Suspension/Timbren/TASR5200S03.html
So this suspension works basically like an independent suspension with no axle tube to get beaten and bent ?
You are correct. It helps to give you more ground clearance.
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Will this work on a aluminum trailer from northern tool 40"x48"
We have seen these installed on a trailer from Northern Tool. You just want to be sure you are mounting it to at least a 2x3" trailer frame.
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My boat is 6,5 tones and I would like to use your Axle-Less Trailer Suspension with drop. Do you make them for these type's of heavy loads? Thanks
Assuming you have a tandem axle trailer, two sets of the Timbren # TASR7KS02 Axle-Less suspension assemblies would provide up to a 14,000 lb capacity with a 4 inch drop. Hope that helps!
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@@etrailer Great help. Thank you!
Is it okay to weld this system in place, or does Timbren recommend not welding? Also, what's the weight rating? Do they make these to handle up to 5k Lbs. each to replace a 10k axle?
You can weld this system in addition to bolting it to the trailer frame. We have many different sizes available to match what your trailer needs.
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I see that you bolted everything to the trailer, would you not recommend a weld on application?
This kit is going to be a lot easier for most people to get installed. It is harder to install a weld on kit.
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Axless system but it has an axle in the front, or do you call a a "stability bar" and then each side is held in with six bolts so now you're weakening the frame by drilling these holes all over the place in it so in a few years the trailer will break in half from all the rusting, then what happens when all of the rubber cushions dry rot
Re-watch the video...
I love that you use a little 12 volt drill to drill :) I always have friends making fun of me for using my little 12v drill
They always get the job done for us.
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was that trailer over loaded or y was the axle on leafspring setup touching the frame?
The old leaf springs on this trailer were worn out to the point where they needed replacing.
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You need a magnetic drill, would make the install so much smoother and quicker. Just a small one.
That type of drill would make it a bit easier with drilling the holes in the frame of the trailer.
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Can a dual axle trailer be converted to this?
It absolutely can! Many people have converted their dual axle trailers to this system and they love it!
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This axle is too heavy for my application, but I found one that was suitable for a lightweight trailer weight.. Designing a hard side pop up motorcycle camper I had to use that style to cu enough weight to make it usable.
Thank you for sharing this with us! It sounds like this kit will work great for you!
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Sometimes the 3500 is a necessary selection, as the smaller Timbren may not fit the hub you are using. I believe you can have the 3500 de-rated, if that makes sense.
Is there a maximum speed it can handle up to
The Timbren Axle-Less Suspension can handle highway speeds so you really just need to check the speed rating for your tires and be sure not to exceed that.
Hello, I own a travel trailer camper with a 9,500lbs GVWR. Will this work with my camper as well?
I too have a travel trailer I'm interested in doing this too, did you ever do this to yours or did you decide not to. Thanks
I’ll be putting these on a tandem axle Cougar 22RBSWE.
Awesome! We love hearing this. You just want to be sure that you are with in the weight capacity of this suspension when the trailer is loaded.
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etrailer.com it’s a dual axle 5,700 GVWR with off road tires 9x31”
a tip instead of a magnet use a piece of tape inside of the boxend side of a wrench
That's not a bad idea either. We've also used a paper towel to hold it in the wrench or socket.
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You may not have an axle transferring energy from one side of the trailer but you do have the cross piece
It will depend on how your trailer was built but on this trailer the cross piece was higher than the trailer supports.
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Can you elaborate on the difference in travel between the axle less system and the leaf spring system and ride characteristics which one would be a softer ride?
Just go to a torsion axle. That's all this is with a longer swing arm. There is an axle to cross brace the frame. Remove the square tube and see how well it works.
Question. Why would you use this over a torsion axe?
The most liked feature that people like with this kit is that if you hit a bump on one side of the trailer, it will not transfer the movement to the other side. This kit is also nice because if one side of the kit gets damaged for some reason, you don't have to replace both.
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I think they will work well for a drop deck trailer , 4 should be good enough in the 3500lb that way 10k weight will be perfect . Trailer will stay flat even parked with a load no tilt or tongue jack need. I've built other trailers but the full axles for drop ones won't work to well.
Thank you for sharing this with us. This kit will be great for your situation. You just want to be sure that you get the kit that is rated for your trailer.
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Are these adequate for boat trailers?
The Timbren Axle-Less Trailer Suspension System will work well on a boat trailer. It has a heavy-duty steel construction which doesn't make it the best option for a salt water application, but it does have a black powder coat finish that helps to resist wear and corrosion and will hold up better than a standard painted axle in a saltwater environment. The Timbren Axle-Less system will have normal wear and tear as long as it is taken care of.
The spindles use the EZ Lube feature which allows you to grease the zerk fitting without having to take the whole hub off. This is a great time saver option that some people don't even know about. That is really the only maintenance that you will have to take care of.
Do these systems work on trailers that are imersed in salt water like boat trailers?
You can most definitely use this system to replace you boat trailer axle. You will want to make sure that you get the appropriate size to replace your factory axle.
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@@etrailer cool, thanks.
How long does the rubber last and is it replaceable?
The rubber springs are designed to last the lifetime of the trailer as long as they are not abused and they are maintained.
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I am interested this system for my 2023 intech luna rover with 5 bolt lugs , i contacted etrailer ( adam ) he asked me to call timbren which best fit for my trailer , timbren rep can't recommend instead send me all the specs sheets and im not experts with those specs, im interested with this parts TASR35HDS07 base on your experty can i still reuses all hubs and bearing, according to your video i can . Thanks and hope hear back from you
You'll want to check the linked product page, where we list the bearings that the unit is compatible with. You'll want to make sure it'll be compatible with your existing hubs/bearings.
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Use Cone bits to step up size.
A person could do a lot with these things....❓ like use it for the suspension on a bike build. Or other really cool projects.
I suppose you could use these for many different projects. We do know that people sure do love them for swaping their trailer axles.
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This would be cool to put on the very end of a trailer to keep it from dragging on steep driveways leave it raised above the road .
We have a few skid wheel kits just for that! Check them out in the following link for more information.
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I run timbrin bump stops on the front ends of my plow trucks and there fucking amazing they take so much weight off the suspension and the rubber timbrins take the weight and I run road masters in the rear to take the weight I took of the air bags off all my trucks and run them on the rears now best decision I ever made and they also take body role out
Trimbren bump stops are a great add on for the front suspension on trucks that have a lot of weight such as a snow plow. Thank you for sharing this with us and others that might be looking for something to solve a similar issue.
Would these hold up well for slight off-road use and rougher rides if I were to use them on a small tear drop trailer build
This system would do just fine in light offroad conditions. Check out the following link for more information on this kit.
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That is what they were designed for.
Ok for dual axles?
We have an axle-less system designed for tandem axles. Check it out in the following link.
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Basically like the 2win double deck trailers you see here in Europe lol
Does etrailer do installs?
You betchya! You can call our Customer Service folks at 800-298-8924 for more info or to set up an appointment.
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Comprar ???
All those holes drilled should have been soaked with anti-rust paint. Also all of the bolts should have had Loctiite applied to the threads. Torque specifications are not enough.
Also, it helps if you haven't been drinking heavily when you are going to be shooting an install video 🤣
Tandem axles?
You can use this in a tandem axle set up.
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They tried rubber ride years ago the rubber wears out real fast then they vibrate a old idea that sucked
Very good ,but are you Paul Walker?
Great vid, but the over spray looks sloppy. It would have only taken a min to tape it off. Or paint it ,then heat gun it, before u install it
It’s literally a offset axle and hub. Accept you use rubber instead of springs lol
Bet this things a fortune too
This is a sweet system! Those who have this kit on their trailers love it.
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What's the benefit of the square cross beam?
It is going to add extra support if there is not a cross member on the trailer in line with the Timbren Axle-Less System. The cross beam will not be included, you will have to supply it.
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It’s cost as much as a used trailer. Lol
Even though this axle-less system looks well built. I feel the trailer is going to be the fail point. With such a large amount of it hanging beyond the brackets it looks like a good spot to bend.
The cross tube and rubber bumpers will take the majority of the stress from the weight of the load.
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Can’t say I’d agree with not needing any lube just because it uses urethane bushings. Urethane squeaks sooo bad if you don’t regularly grease it.
The spring set up is actually better. E Trailer you should correct your techs mis information. The rubber/urethane has a progressive rate spring and you can see the tire actually come off of the road due to the slow rebound of a rubber spring vs steel spring. Also be concerned with toe and camber issue when loaded vs conventional .188 wall tube spring axle.
This trailer is a light weight trailer and did not have a load on it. This caused the bouncing action. This kit performs very well when there is more weight on it.
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@@etrailer I’m familiar. I rate all of their springs.
why do you need brakez
to stop.... ?
How much$$
Price varies depending on your application. You can view more information at the link below.
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this isnt a review of the product but more of an advertisement for it
Ya it seems a lot of companies on youtube don't know the difference between an overview and a review.
This is pretty much a torsion axle. The only real difference I see is the method of dampening. I don't dislike it however I would like it better if the spindle and trailing arm were designed so that the spindle bolted to the underside of the trailing arm instead of on top. In the configuration shown here the 4 mounting bolts take up the all the load whereas if the spindle was bolted to the underside of the trailing arm the trailing arm would take more of the weight and the bolts would more or less keep the spindle in place.
The plate takes the load, not the bolts.
The cross tube should extend at least flush to the outside of the side plates to transfer load properly, leaving just inside is just stupid
It is going to depend on the trailer that this kit is being installed on. If there is a cross member above where the new system will go then there is no need for the cross tube. But, I agree the tube should have been flush to outside of the bracket. Keep in mind the cross tube is not included in the kit.
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etrailer.com looks like a great product guys , will have a look on your site. Sorry to be picky curse of being a structural engineer.
We are happy to help! You know what you're talking about and there's no shame in that. Let us know if there's anything else we can do to help.
Could you just weld it on?
You could definitely weld this kit on if you had the means to do so but more people are going to be able to bolt it on with the tools they have in their garage.
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Do not buy this suspension system I had and it failed a good design but poor( welding wells broke right down the middle of the weld ) the tow job cost me $2500 to get my trailer out of the desert just to the nearest town beware
Yikes, which model did you have and how heavy was your trailer?
@@RossFeighery I have the 2500 pound axle the material did not break it’s just a poor welding I would not buy another one
@@nielmadsen9806 I've never heard of this, maybe you got the axle's built on a Friday afternoon?
it looks like that system only has 2.5 inches of travel (which is terrible)
Holes? You have to be kidding!!! Ya' mean you don't have a welder?
What does a welder have to do with creating holes?
rod builder not everybody has a welder. This guy is showing it can be done by anyone with simple tools. Bolts are better for anyone that's not a professional welder. I have a welder but I'd still bolt it.
It's not crazy expensive either
What's the price?
These would be worth considering if they weren't so expensive. I could buy a complete trailer for less than the asking price of these.
This set up will require an anti sway bar
We have many people that pull trailers with this system on it everyday and they do not have issues with sway.
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You look like a more smarter, less dorkier version of Ashton Kutcher.
@Rowdy Haahaahaa....great description. This guy could definitely have been a stunt double for Ashton from the movie "Guess Who".
Who says there aren't clones walking around?
Or just buy a torsion axle.
You could also go with a torsion axle. People like how that suspension feels on the Timbren Axle-Less system.
www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Leaf-Spring-Suspension/Timbren/A12RS440.html
Lol wtf an axleless trailer that you add a AXLE to...
Your not very bright
Watch the video dumbass.
1:45 dipspit