Kindly show some respect to others. Just because you people have never will amount to any real value in society as a bunch of "reporters" - aka tv garbage gobblers / vultures - doesn't mean you have any right to so blatantly disrespect someone who DID contribute to society. I hope his family sees this video and SUES you to such an extent YOUR GRANDCHILDREN are paying the bill.
I think you & your panel are very strange people. Why would you think an upbeat tone, interspersed with giggling & laughing was an appropriate way to have your discussion about a murder case??? This isn't Oscar night on an episode of 'Fashion Police'
favts before i got married met a woman I tried to help and wanted to gove a better life and she was cheating and stealing like crazy 😂😂 she still calls and stalks me sometimes
facts before i got married met a woman I tried to help and wanted to gove a better life and she was cheating and stealing like crazy 😂😂 she still calls and stalks me sometimes
I can vouch for this I held a very esteemed medical license , and in my active addiction , I could be found at seedy trap houses. My world crashed , my license gone , but I’m over 6 years sober , got my family , a peaceful life and learned much humility . that’s what it took to get me here , and that’s ok .
He wasn't really CLOSETED .......He had his private moments still -Just like all people who choose to have private moments....btw He was always at the gay bars and gay functions. Most people on this damn thread and on that panel talking dont know what the F they' re talking about when it comes to this this wonderful man...
@@sd560 he wanted some BBC, just like these new girls. Thinking dating or having a black baby is cool, but wand up dead. They got what they was looking for, BBC. Big, black, coffin ⚰️
Actually disappointed in the panel. A lot of laughing, accusations, etc. The man was killed for Christ sake and he still has family and friends. Just don't understand the giggling and the judgments thrown around. Show some respect.
Omg i was coming here to say the same thing..NO respect for the victim..Laughing and joking like they're talking about a big happy party..FFS...stop WITH THE laughs and jokes..esp that bigger guy on the panel..there for a party always..Infuriatingggg to say the least!!!🤬🤬
He wasn’t lonely. He had sexual perversion issues. He chose to be a trick and has been one for many years. He was engaged to a woman whom she posted on fb how he kept giving her std after std. he didn’t want companionship, he wanted folks who would do strange things for some change.
Dr. Hoover could have chosen a well to do gay partner or husband. This is 2024 and one should not be ashamed of their preference. I think he tried to hide it, chose the wrong person and it cost him his life. RIP doctor and grateful for all your contributions to the medical field.
@@laurainglis7485 we must stop placing so much value on "what people think." At least half of the time they're not even thinking. There are rattlesnakes of all sizes and shapes. At the end of any given day, character is what matters most.
@@LWoods-gv2rg are you simply intellectually challenged? The point you didn't make proves how your teachers failed. Phrases aren't sentences! Try again! I cannot stand dumb folks. I would rather shovel pig waste for a living.
Not true at all. In some ways we wish it was so we could learn about all the dirty dealings of all the horrific people in the world but they just get to go on and live their happy lives and secrets get buried and forgotten. We just have to learn to accept that. That’s the way the real world works. People have secret lives and get away with it and some don’t.
That's my problem with many of these comments. It's all "he was gay, he was closeted" no, that ain't it. He's a handsome doctor who could have found a nice partner. Instead he chose to pay a prostitute. It doesn't work like Pretty Woman.
The doctor was a well respected neurosurgeon. People that worked with him said that he was an amazing doctor and a wonderful human being. His neighbors actually cried when they found out what happened to him. He held charity events at his home to help the less fortunate. His neighbors were invited into his home. He is the victim in this case. I can’t believe how people can be so cruel when they speak about him being seedy or living a double life. If you didn’t know him personally, You can’t say what kind of a life he had. Have some respect and consideration for his family.
Be very careful who you let into your life , if you lay down with dogs you will get fleas in this case death . very sad as he was a great Doctor who helped so many people .
@@cynthiaweir5697 so the Dr was just perfect huh? He did nothing wrong.. Let me guess. He was forced to be in a relationship with that guy. Wait until those text messages get released in court.
Being a doctor or "well respected" doesn't absolve you from being a seedy person. Society has really done a number on you all, the same people that think that drug addicts and criminals only look one way. You obviously didn't know him as much as you did.
I dated a surgeon who was also loved by many even people in our streets. I lived with him for 10 yrs and he did every drug given to him he was also sleeping with multiple people which why I broke it off
He did drugs. If I told you the stuff I’ve seen my medical school classmates do, you’d probably never go to a doctor again. They do everything but the biggest druggies perform the best, it’s a weird conundrum.
SCARY !!! SMART PEOPLE CAN BE THE MOST IGNORANT AT THE SAME TIME...MEANING STUPID...THAT IS INCLUDING MY 5 BROTHERS ..SMART AND STUPID ALL THE MONEY THEY MADE AND WORKED HARD FOR NOW THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SHOW FOR IT WHEN THEY COULD HAVE HAD A BIG !!! HOME etc.
I think it was about money. The lover was used to getting money from the doctor. Maybe this time the doctor said, "No. Enough." and then the lover killed him out of anger.
Yeah, doubtful. Maybe the doctor was in a drug induced rage and attacted the lover? Maybe the lover didnt want the doctor anymore? Maybe the doctor used the lover merely for sex and a fight ensued later that became deadly?!? It’s more than meets the eyes. 4k text is a relationship, not some hookup.
I love how his family mentioned "god" in their statement. I wonder how they feel about their son being exposed as a h0m0sexual. I don't think they knew.
Imagine having a 13,000 square foot home to yourself, my 2,100 foot house is lonely and some rooms do not get entered for a half a year at a time. I couldn't imagine, I would have to have someone at least move in at the other end of the house. It would be so ridiculously wasteful as well as super lonely.
Personally, I’d love a 13,000 square foot mansion. I’d build a gym with weights, treadmills and a Pilates reformer machine, and will have a nice entertainment room to watch movies, and TV. I’d also have some pets to keep me company. Being someone who loves solitude and privacy, this would be a dream of mine.
@@TASconfidentialIt sounds nice to some people but it's not safe, very difficult to clean and to do future renovation on the roof etc, costly to pay some one to clean monthly, It's a waste of time, effort and money, A big house is convenient but when it's too big it becomes a liability more than a blessing
I’m a nurse for many years. Dr.s are amazing skilled talented people, they are also human just like everyone else. Prosecutors don’t always tell everything they have, at these press conferences. If you watch enough trials so much is revealed during the trial to put the pieces all together. If this case has a really darker side to it, I suspect they would prefer to come to a plea deal unless the Dr.s family says differently.
@maddieadams A reasonable comment! Thank you! You’re correct; Pressers are to inform public if basic information needed, to be at ease within the community.. they always remind us that much, and keep evidence for trial private, for the purpose of successful and fair trial and unbiased Jury.
I agree but these 3 are not the prosecutors on this case so they don't know what those details are any more than we do. This is irresponsible journalism.
He wanted a hood guy. Hence the reason he even got involved with him. Lets not sugar coat things. If he wanted a doctor on his level…he could have no questions asked. With messing with a hood guy, you are playing with fire
Exactly.....it's the same principle psychology that attracts upstanding women to thugs/ex cons. Also if you ask this defendant, he would probably say he wasn't gay just someone who'll do anything for money.
This is absolutely heartbreaking for this prominent doctor. Despite his lifestyle, nobody deserves this kind of evil treatment, period!! Greed and evil is what caused this mans horrific death.
@@Marilyn-tk3jlI wonder if he just felt constant pressure and was afraid to come out, so he choose someone he thought no one in his elite circle would expose his secret. Poor guy either way!
@@KP-sn9jmwell at least this commenter HAD personal experience living in a religious environment ,unlike the original commenter. Which would make this commenter more credible.
I watch court TV often, and It's great, but this panel was so disturbing when discussing this case. Everyone on this panel was so disrespectful towards the doctor and his family. Laughing and talking so negatively about his personal life. I truly hope that none of his family or loved ones watched this. Absolutely disgusting!
Even though he was a doctor dosent mean he wasn’t an undercover addict.. Drug addicts are in prominent places too. Its not just for low lives or street people. There is an old saying: show me your company and I will tell you who you are.
We should NOT care/business with his personal life, how rude to do that...he was human just like all of us and we must condemn all killings😢 RIP Dr. Hoover
4,000 text messages? Sounds like the Doctor and Mr. Burks were involved in a full-fledged relationship. This was much more than simply an "Escort & John relationship". Sounds like they had an old fashioned lover's quarrell that got out of hand. Alot of ppl in the comment section are sharing stories about how wonderful of a physician the Doctor was, (and i don't doubt that he was good at his craft) but let's not be naive.... you can be excellent at your profession while simultaneously being disgraceful in your private life.
Correction, he was one of the top neurosurgeons in the united states and i feel so embarrassed for him. I would never understand why out of all the men in the world, why would he be involved with someone like this man? Was Dr. Hoover a recreational drug user? How did they meet? Obviously he had an attraction to black men but why this one? However, im glad they caught the criminal so that he and his family could have closure. 🙏
It’s the “bad boy” factor. Sometimes straight laced folks crave that dangerous “baddie” on the side, I guess. It’s like when many rich straight men from the upper class cheat on their stepford wives for that crazy azz stripper. Human psychology is interesting
Not necessarily as it could be anyone trying to cover up the crime. We don’t know how many times he was shot, if the face was disfigured, the penis hacked or chopped off. Those are more likely “crimes of passion & known well to the victim”, over being wrapped up in a carpet. They’ve known who it was since the beginning of the case but needed to ensure they had all the evidence to convict him on the most egregious counts they can get the most time out of.
Wow, the way the guy said “dead with 2 holes in his head “ was so disrespectful, he could of use different words. This may be a story but, this is a person you all are talking about.
Respect is not free, respect must be EARNED, that doctor lost all respect. There is a specific street name to call guys like that doctor and that name is very shameful.
@@blackdollar2009 cost him his freedom of just walking away and eating, sleeping and now he’s going to a place where there is multiple individual’s who you don’t have no desire for and system doesn’t care tell you when to eat, sleep or get to see the sunshine.
This poor doctor couldn't find anyone on his level?! Why *that* guy? They're not a good match. Surely there was a lonely, successful, sophisticated man who needed a partner too. I dont get it
That doctor knew what he was involved with could end up bad for both of them. These rich people can hide their dark sides they carry themselves as fine upstanding successful people but underneath a dark dangerous side . You hear you play with fire you may die by that fire ! So sad situation!
We know why. Sonya’s life didn’t matter. She was ‘not a high class surgeon They paint this doctor as so upper class. His behavior was lower than the low.
I am a little offended by your panel on this, laughing, joking and accusing a man who was brutally murdered of being a drug addict, I normally enjoy the panels you have but this left a bad taste in my mouth!
@@trashtalker2155 I know on the one hand he was a Neuro surgeon and lived in a Mansion!! Yet he was sleeping with a Prostitute. Ugh!! I wonder if he was taking Drugs?
I remember when this case first came out 2 years ago. No suspects had been named, but I already knew Hoover was gay just by looking at his pics. I can always spot a gay guy in the wild lol. Also, the press releases made no mention of a wife or girlfriend, which further supported my thinking.
These comments remind me how little the world still knows about stuff like this. The doctor likes rough black trade. This is quite common with successful white men shocker, I know. He knew he was playing with fire but it most likely turned him on. Drugs are a factor because they tend to go hand In hand in situations like this. So many of you can’t fathom this. lol. Panel did a great job trying to give you all some hints but some of you are so biased you cant believe a doctor would do this.
Why would a prominent doctor even socialize with someone like him let alone have a relationship with him? This doctor is not innocent as he looks in the photos. There is more to this story.
Prominent and well known in his profession and came from a religious family? Uh, it seems pretty obvious. Our society is so religious and judgmental of queer people.
Thats damn lie what you stated ....You judgemental troll ....Just have a seat and learn the diffrence..... You can find poor people sexually attracted and still remain in your upper class
That "think tank" is a show of clowns. They make The Three Stooges look like intellectuals. The giggle and laughter is so out of place....NOT on national TV. They essentially had a party on the grave of Dr. Hoover. All presented as immature and disrespectful to Dr. Hoover, along with his family. I'm embarrassed for you.
This is very unfortunate. What’s crazy is that I could have easily became his victim. Yea that’s right, I almost linked with this man on a chat site. I’m almost sure that the doctor met this coward on a familiar chat site where I chatted with this idiot. I remember his profile pic, the conversation we had and everything. He definitely was gay for pay as he tried to get me to pay him as well. This really gives me chills. I just cannot 😢my heart goes out to this man’s family.
Why do people given so much by god/universe/ life choose to spit in that Grace's face and live these weird nefarious lives????? Why? Why? WHHHHHHHY????
I knew him personally...... Never once seen him do drugs.. !! This man was top notch class ...Stop judging by his sexual orientation and by SOME of the company he kept ... He had all type of friends of all class
@@marisailumiada yes he liked dangerous relationships. Many people have a fetish for such relationships. Unfortunately Doc paid the price for such a foolish fetish. Wish more people would go seek therapy.
Chile... When it comes to broke trade, trade on drugs, and/or trade that's charging you, i know we can never be too careful, but y'all gotta be very careful ! That goes for transgender women, biological women, gay men, & bisexual men .
Those kinds of people is coded for black folk. Let’s have class shall we? How many doctors are living with AIDS/HIV that aren’t black? That’s a mind blowing fact you may want to dig into your bigotry laced ideology. The doctor wanted some black penis is the only reasonable answer here. And to think all that was lost here over some fetishization. Real life cuck but you think HIV/AIDS was the doctors morality clause of retreat. Piece of work. Doctor died chasing his lovers cock is a wonderful headline.
What do you mean “these kind of people “. The doctor was “these kind of people “. Get off your racist classist horse. Both were victims of disgusting lifestyles.
I’m a fan of court tv and Vinnie, but I did not enjoy this panel segment. Insensitive, jumping to conclusion, drug accusations. A man lost his life. Working in healthcare I know that no matter the profession we are all just humans at the end of the day.
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Kindly show some respect to others. Just because you people have never will amount to any real value in society as a bunch of "reporters" - aka tv garbage gobblers / vultures - doesn't mean you have any right to so blatantly disrespect someone who DID contribute to society. I hope his family sees this video and SUES you to such an extent YOUR GRANDCHILDREN are paying the bill.
I think you & your panel are very strange people. Why would you think an upbeat tone, interspersed with giggling & laughing was an appropriate way to have your discussion about a murder case??? This isn't Oscar night on an episode of 'Fashion Police'
@@livelyr1567well said!
@@livelyr1567you hit the hammer on the nail. Such immature behaviour giggling is so disrespectful
This is a reminder to not mess with people who don't have nothing to lose
The doctor or the thug?
What about the Murdocks 😮 so please 😮
@@idontdohumans5950 I still agree with the comment, but good point you have.
favts before i got married met a woman I tried to help and wanted to gove a better life and she was cheating and stealing like crazy 😂😂 she still calls and stalks me sometimes
facts before i got married met a woman I tried to help and wanted to gove a better life and she was cheating and stealing like crazy 😂😂 she still calls and stalks me sometimes
I can vouch for this I held a very esteemed medical license , and in my active addiction , I could be found at seedy trap houses. My world crashed , my license gone , but I’m over 6 years sober , got my family , a peaceful life and learned much humility . that’s what it took to get me here , and that’s ok .
@TT-cj3ek Amen, keep pushing
Congratulations on your accomplishments
Thank You Jesus Christ for miracles for this person ❤️
Bless you
Congratulations on your sobriety and I wish you peace and happiness
The doctor was a closet gay. His private life was just that, private. It cost him his life 😢 RIP Doc, may justice be done!
He wasn't really CLOSETED .......He had his private moments still -Just like all people who choose to have private moments....btw He was always at the gay bars and gay functions. Most people on this damn thread and on that panel talking dont know what the F they' re talking about when it comes to this this wonderful man...
He wasn't in the closet
Just living your life is not 'closeted' Do you scream you are straight out the window.
He wasn't closeted🤦♀️
@@sd560 he wanted some BBC, just like these new girls. Thinking dating or having a black baby is cool, but wand up dead. They got what they was looking for, BBC. Big, black, coffin ⚰️
A rich doctor with a secret life? You don’t say ?!?
if he was open he would be alive today. Sad.
@@nobilitytattoo4043 Unheard of !!
Actually disappointed in the panel. A lot of laughing, accusations, etc. The man was killed for Christ sake and he still has family and friends. Just don't understand the giggling and the judgments thrown around. Show some respect.
Omg i was coming here to say the same thing..NO respect for the victim..Laughing and joking like they're talking about a big happy party..FFS...stop WITH THE laughs and jokes..esp that bigger guy on the panel..there for a party always..Infuriatingggg to say the least!!!🤬🤬
this panel are ALL narcissists.
People have their opinions.
TOTALLY!!! the panel was a farce, and NOT AT ALL to be taken seriously.
@@ILoveWoolerbear disgusting.
If you are going to pay an escort to hide a down-low affair, get a high-class one and not a street hood.
💯% Faxx... A high quality male "massuse" runs $250-300; pocket change for someone of his means.
@@dariusx4829 I've heard about white men being attracted to thuggish black men,it's a fetish I guess
Some like it hot.
I doubt it matters. Do you remember Andrew Cunanan? He pretended to be high class or was to some people but was a nutcase.
That wasn't his fantasy.
People, please if you are lonely, get a pet, a dog, a cat, anything. Stay away from people. They are dangerous.
You need help!
Ask them to volunteer, farm, camp, etc...
Build a relationship with Christ as well
@@inn8selfyes!!!!
@@hopefulfilled9519
🫶🏿🫶🏿🫶🏿👂🏿👂🏿👂🏿🔊🔊🔊
Amen Amen Amen
He wasn’t lonely. He had sexual perversion issues. He chose to be a trick and has been one for many years. He was engaged to a woman whom she posted on fb how he kept giving her std after std. he didn’t want companionship, he wanted folks who would do strange things for some change.
Having "double lives" isn't restricted to religious folks, political figures, members of law enforcement, etc. the list goes on
🤷 People are people , human not perfect 🤷
Dr. Hoover could have chosen a well to do gay partner or husband. This is 2024 and one should not be ashamed of their preference. I think he tried to hide it, chose the wrong person and it cost him his life. RIP doctor and grateful for all your contributions to the medical field.
@@laurainglis7485 we must stop placing so much value on "what people think." At least half of the time they're not even thinking. There are rattlesnakes of all sizes and shapes. At the end of any given day, character is what matters most.
@@MauriSky2437 nor you
@@LWoods-gv2rg are you simply intellectually challenged? The point you didn't make proves how your teachers failed. Phrases aren't sentences! Try again!
I cannot stand dumb folks. I would rather shovel pig waste for a living.
No matter what your secret life will be exposed
That’s what people don’t understand!!! Everything you do behind the scenes WILL be exposed.. EVERYTHING!!!!
it cost him. so sad.
@@shazondiabailey9013 it’s just not true. Plenty people die with plenty secrets.
@@veronicahoward4869it’s literally not true. Many people pass with many secrets
Not true at all. In some ways we wish it was so we could learn about all the dirty dealings of all the horrific people in the world but they just get to go on and live their happy lives and secrets get buried and forgotten. We just have to learn to accept that. That’s the way the real world works. People have secret lives and get away with it and some don’t.
Beware the company you keep.
Beware of your fetishes
Facts
That's my problem with many of these comments. It's all "he was gay, he was closeted" no, that ain't it. He's a handsome doctor who could have found a nice partner. Instead he chose to pay a prostitute. It doesn't work like Pretty Woman.
@@nca9364 he must have liked the company. He kept it around until it turned on him.
The got the fall guy
The doctor was a well respected neurosurgeon. People that worked with him said that he was an amazing doctor and a wonderful human being. His neighbors actually cried when they found out what happened to him. He held charity events at his home to help the less fortunate. His neighbors were invited into his home. He is the victim in this case. I can’t believe how people can be so cruel when they speak about him being seedy or living a double life. If you didn’t know him personally, You can’t say what kind of a life he had. Have some respect and consideration for his family.
Be very careful who you let into your life , if you lay down with dogs you will get fleas in this case death . very sad as he was a great Doctor who helped so many people .
@cynthiaweir5697 I'm sure his paid felon boyfriend was at all the functions and garden parties. No double life.
Well said.
@@cynthiaweir5697 so the Dr was just perfect huh? He did nothing wrong.. Let me guess. He was forced to be in a relationship with that guy. Wait until those text messages get released in court.
Being a doctor or "well respected" doesn't absolve you from being a seedy person. Society has really done a number on you all, the same people that think that drug addicts and criminals only look one way. You obviously didn't know him as much as you did.
I dated a surgeon who was also loved by many even people in our streets. I lived with him for 10 yrs and he did every drug given to him he was also sleeping with multiple people which why I broke it off
He did drugs. If I told you the stuff I’ve seen my medical school classmates do, you’d probably never go to a doctor again.
They do everything but the biggest druggies perform the best, it’s a weird conundrum.
@@tailorforeman7082oh Lord!! Seems like the pressure of medical school gets to them 😢
SCARY !!! SMART PEOPLE CAN BE THE MOST IGNORANT AT THE SAME TIME...MEANING STUPID...THAT IS INCLUDING MY 5 BROTHERS ..SMART AND STUPID ALL THE MONEY THEY MADE AND WORKED HARD FOR NOW THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SHOW FOR IT WHEN THEY COULD HAVE HAD A BIG !!! HOME etc.
You can't bring trade to your house. You gotta keep that in the streets, hotels, air b&b's, the alley... just not your home.
Correct!
Recklessness costed the doc his life, unfortunately.
Yes, poor choices
I think it was about money. The lover was used to getting money from the doctor. Maybe this time the doctor said, "No. Enough." and then the lover killed him out of anger.
Yeah, doubtful. Maybe the doctor was in a drug induced rage and attacted the lover? Maybe the lover didnt want the doctor anymore? Maybe the doctor used the lover merely for sex and a fight ensued later that became deadly?!? It’s more than meets the eyes. 4k text is a relationship, not some hookup.
@@intentionalrelationsExactly! I doubt that man was in love with the doctor. He was a bum that used him for money.
Speculating… once start a bad habit it will not end well. So highly intelligent and still got killed…Be careful who you mess with…
Speculating… once start a bad habit it will not end well. So highly intelligent and still got killed…Be careful who you mess with…
usual suspects. must have been a liberal.
The family was about to lose his mother. They find out that he's dead.That's messed up.
I love how his family mentioned "god" in their statement. I wonder how they feel about their son being exposed as a h0m0sexual. I don't think they knew.
What's messed up is that Kamala hid evidence to keep black men locked up on death row and you're excited to be voting for her.
Ive seen that house so many times driving and walking past it! It's one of the nicest homes in that neighborhood ! Worth about $3,000,000 . Sad
Imagine having a 13,000 square foot home to yourself, my 2,100 foot house is lonely and some rooms do not get entered for a half a year at a time. I couldn't imagine, I would have to have someone at least move in at the other end of the house. It would be so ridiculously wasteful as well as super lonely.
Personally, I’d love a 13,000 square foot mansion.
I’d build a gym with weights, treadmills and a Pilates reformer machine, and will have a nice entertainment room to watch movies, and TV.
I’d also have some pets to keep me company.
Being someone who loves solitude and privacy, this would be a dream of mine.
@@scottbattaglia8595 you need a spouse....get out more...n get some air...
@@TASconfidentialIt sounds nice to some people but it's not safe, very difficult to clean and to do future renovation on the roof etc, costly to pay some one to clean monthly, It's a waste of time, effort and money, A big house is convenient but when it's too big it becomes a liability more than a blessing
@@jamiebrumant8512 good points.
I am logical.
So wouldn’t suggest a large house, unless the owner can afford cleaning and care.
I think there’s more to him in this mansion. I don’t understand why one person would like to live in that much house by himself.
I’m a nurse for many years. Dr.s are amazing skilled talented people, they are also human just like everyone else. Prosecutors don’t always tell everything they have, at these press conferences. If you watch enough trials so much is revealed during the trial to put the pieces all together. If this case has a really darker side to it, I suspect they would prefer to come to a plea deal unless the Dr.s family says differently.
There's even more info in pretrial bearings. So much info that sometimes never makes it to trial
@maddieadams
A reasonable comment! Thank you! You’re correct; Pressers are to inform public if basic information needed, to be at ease within the community.. they always remind us that much, and keep evidence for trial private, for the purpose of successful and fair trial and unbiased Jury.
I agree but these 3 are not the prosecutors on this case so they don't know what those details are any more than we do. This is irresponsible journalism.
Lets face it his appendage did all his thinking in spite of his education his carnal inclinations outweighed common sense
@@silentmajority8365Wouldn’t be shocked if the Dr engaged in recreational drug use as well.
Id say the dude wanted more money from the doctor for sex when he didn’t comply violence ensued
Yep me to 100%
Nah!
Either more money or more drugs.
This inflation is hurting everyone.
If I had to guess I'd say Doctor was writing fake prescriptions his boyfriend could sell and the heat was on so he stopped and that led to his demise
He wanted a hood guy. Hence the reason he even got involved with him. Lets not sugar coat things. If he wanted a doctor on his level…he could have no questions asked. With messing with a hood guy, you are playing with fire
@@ebonyjoi634 facts he didn't get a good hood he got one from the trenches
@@ms.crissyloveright! A straight up BUM!🤦♀️
Schlong.. it was all about that schlong..
@@ItsMeDMC0530yep thats what he graved. You would not believe how many white boys and girls like to get blacked out
Exactly.....it's the same principle psychology that attracts upstanding women to thugs/ex cons. Also if you ask this defendant, he would probably say he wasn't gay just someone who'll do anything for money.
The laughing from this panel is sick
This is absolutely heartbreaking for this prominent doctor. Despite his lifestyle, nobody deserves this kind of evil treatment, period!! Greed and evil is what caused this mans horrific death.
Yep his greed for sex and for the druggie to bring drugs, you’re right
Doctor should have chosen a better companion!
@@Marilyn-tk3jlI wonder if he just felt constant pressure and was afraid to come out, so he choose someone he thought no one in his elite circle would expose his secret. Poor guy either way!
I am learning that when raised in a highly religious and rigid environment, creating a double life is very common.
Not really , I was raised in religious home and never had a double life and could tell you thousands who don’t ..
@@thewanderer1139 oh wow, so bc YOU personally havent experienced it, that means its not true. of course
@@KP-sn9jmwell at least this commenter HAD personal experience living in a religious environment ,unlike the original commenter. Which would make this commenter more credible.
@@thewanderer1139Are you a highly successful, high-profile gay male surgeon?
@@thewanderer1139 Exactly.
He has 4 tattoo teardrops on his cheeks. Those usually mean a murder for each tear…. Has he killed before?
Yes. He punched a guy after dude tapped his car, and left him to die in the street.
Or terms in prison
Ummm that’s a great question!
I watch court TV often, and It's great, but this panel was so disturbing when discussing this case. Everyone on this panel was so disrespectful towards the doctor and his family. Laughing and talking so negatively about his personal life. I truly hope that none of his family or loved ones watched this. Absolutely disgusting!
I agree 💯 %😢
I hope they sue.
What's up with that? My first time watching this channel, is it always like this??
@@HeatherBoo916 it's definitely not usually like this.
Even though he was a doctor dosent mean he wasn’t an undercover addict.. Drug addicts are in prominent places too. Its not just for low lives or street people. There is an old saying: show me your company and I will tell you who you are.
True.
4000 text messages with the murderer! 😳
that's insane!! I don't think I've ever had that many texts with my kids!!
The "murderer ' was his lover.
Drugs
Sneaky affairs playing with this man
@@mizrelmizrel exactly. That was his loved
"I think they were in some type of sexual relationship" - Molly the Blonde
Play with fire & you will get burned...
Exactly...
Gay Doctor Fs Arounds and Finds Out 🤣🤣
You can say that again.
He probably had other lovers
More will speak out soon probably
@@farcry011 most have their mouths full at the moment
See the book
Last call K
@@silentmajority8365🤣🤣
We should NOT care/business with his personal life, how rude to do that...he was human just like all of us and we must condemn all killings😢 RIP Dr. Hoover
Really, would you hang out with evil and expect no consequences????
@@mayc8674 who asked you anything?
@@Renee-vc3ji Nobody has to ask anyone anything to respond to comments in this platform. Did you think i needed permission?
This panel is f'd up speculating about Dr. Hoover and the "issues" that he had when they have no clue. RIP Dr. Hoover.
Stay Tuned….
Rip dr sodoma 😂
They mighty close!
4,000 text messages? Sounds like the Doctor and Mr. Burks were involved in a full-fledged relationship. This was much more than simply an "Escort & John relationship". Sounds like they had an old fashioned lover's quarrell that got out of hand. Alot of ppl in the comment section are sharing stories about how wonderful of a physician the Doctor was, (and i don't doubt that he was good at his craft) but let's not be naive.... you can be excellent at your profession while simultaneously being disgraceful in your private life.
It was a DL man and a guy who wants BBC
Exactly
“Let’s not jump to conclusions…” also maybe he was an addict. What?
She said it's concluded as I was reading this
Correction, he was one of the top neurosurgeons in the united states and i feel so embarrassed for him. I would never understand why out of all the men in the world, why would he be involved with someone like this man? Was Dr. Hoover a recreational drug user? How did they meet? Obviously he had an attraction to black men but why this one? However, im glad they caught the criminal so that he and his family could have closure. 🙏
It’s the “bad boy” factor. Sometimes straight laced folks crave that dangerous “baddie” on the side, I guess. It’s like when many rich straight men from the upper class cheat on their stepford wives for that crazy azz stripper. Human psychology is interesting
Naked, rolled in a carpet , in the crawl space says someone really close to him did this.
They shared who did it.
What a terrible way to leave this World 🌎
Not necessarily as it could be anyone trying to cover up the crime. We don’t know how many times he was shot, if the face was disfigured, the penis hacked or chopped off. Those are more likely “crimes of passion & known well to the victim”, over being wrapped up in a carpet. They’ve known who it was since the beginning of the case but needed to ensure they had all the evidence to convict him on the most egregious counts they can get the most time out of.
Its sad lover duh
They just arrested the alleged killer. That’s what this video is titled.
Don't let the racial aspect or income disparity fool you. This was a full on relationship. Way more common in the gay community than folks think.
A well respected psychiatrist in Las Vegas did the same thing. He walked into a relationship with a taker, and was killed. Just sad.
The reports say, the doctor was a nice, kind and compassionate person. I pray for his family and hope he rests in perfect peace.
He was an he was human.
Wow, the way the guy said “dead with 2 holes in his head “ was so disrespectful, he could of use different words. This may be a story but, this is a person you all are talking about.
@@pattysdaughter5639 completely agree.
All of these guys were extremely disrespectful
Disrespect was pioneered by the doctor eroticizing black men and not knowing how to differentiate pookie from Trevor.
Respect is not free, respect must be EARNED, that doctor lost all respect. There is a specific street name to call guys like that doctor and that name is very shameful.
@@LightInsights sodoma 😂
If you lie down with dogs 🐕 you wake up with fleas...if you even wake up. 😔
“Skeletons in your closet waiting to come outside “
Never fall in love with a rent boy they will fleece you for everything.
Disgusting, laughing and saying he has friends in low places.
Well that was the case it's the dam truth
I wonder if the Dr was ending the relationship….because it makes no sense to kill the Dr…when he gets so much more to keep the doc alive…
True he could’ve just walked away and now he’s going to be locked up for life!
True, I agree
I'm leaning toward this conclusion. If you're getting paid, why stop the gravy train.
He was getting DUMPED!! He could not handle it!!
@@blackdollar2009 cost him his freedom of just walking away and eating, sleeping and now he’s going to a place where there is multiple individual’s who you don’t have no desire for and system doesn’t care tell you when to eat, sleep or get to see the sunshine.
I knew it was a lover and that lover was a guy.
yes, immediately.
Poor guy , you can’t trust people these days
So e people scream DONT TRUST ME! surely this was obvious
He brought it on himself with his foul lifestyle.
lol the irony of your comment is appreciated
@@DontAsk-x6vGuaranteed you have skeletons that rivals the Dr's in the closet 😂
@@herroyalhighness5634Lol Right!
This poor doctor couldn't find anyone on his level?! Why *that* guy?
They're not a good match. Surely there was a lonely, successful, sophisticated man who needed a partner too. I dont get it
I'd hazard a guess that the good Doctor didn't want to engage with anyone in his social circle maybe to avoid gossip, but sadly paid the price
@@easternkiwiz I believe he was not in the closet.
So sad, Dr. was nice looking. Tragic situation
Exactly. Some thug who was down low who wasn't even on his same socioeconomic status.
I’m sure he wanted his two lives to remain seperate
That doctor knew what he was involved with could end up bad for both of them. These rich people can hide their dark sides they carry themselves as fine upstanding successful people but underneath a dark dangerous side . You hear you play with fire you may die by that fire ! So sad situation!
Why aren’t you covering sonya Massey murder?
Great Question ⁉️
Right 2 men together 🙄
@@mariejones2669 i am sure they have plenty of straight relationships on here
We know why. Sonya’s life didn’t matter. She was ‘not a high class surgeon
They paint this doctor as so upper class. His behavior was lower than the low.
I am a little offended by your panel on this, laughing, joking and accusing a man who was brutally murdered of being a drug addict, I normally enjoy the panels you have but this left a bad taste in my mouth!
Nah they were being honest . There was something very dark with that doctor.
They discussed the case and the parties involved. Nothing to be offended about.
I agree. It was disgusting behavior on their part.
You’re in denial if you think doctors are above being called addicts. 😢
@@heidinotheidi Because a doctor trading fake prescriptions for SX is not disgusting?
The male panelist said he quit drinking in 2008. I dont believe that. He was definately drunk eyeglass shopping online.
It's hard to take the defense attorney seriously with those glasses. I'm to busy looking at them thinking what was this guy thinking?!!!!
The doctor lived a seedy life . Period
@@trashtalker2155 I know on the one hand he was a Neuro surgeon and lived in a Mansion!! Yet he was sleeping with a Prostitute. Ugh!! I wonder if he was taking Drugs?
I remember when this case first came out 2 years ago. No suspects had been named, but I already knew Hoover was gay just by looking at his pics. I can always spot a gay guy in the wild lol.
Also, the press releases made no mention of a wife or girlfriend, which further supported my thinking.
Wow, you're amazing!!
Yeah people refuse to believe it
So you knew him in person and how he lived his life? Or did you not and are simply judging?
Why did it take so long to arrest this man? Three countries??
The suspect was probably one of his patients. They need to dig up how they knew each other.
These comments remind me how little the world still knows about stuff like this. The doctor likes rough black trade. This is quite common with successful white men shocker, I know. He knew he was playing with fire but it most likely turned him on. Drugs are a factor because they tend to go hand In hand in situations like this. So many of you can’t fathom this. lol. Panel did a great job trying to give you all some hints but some of you are so biased you cant believe a doctor would do this.
@@lockness1980 Yes the doctor was really Desperate for the BBC so much that He would get envolve with Low life thoughs to get IT .
It's obvious from the look on his face in that picture that he was light in the loafers.
EXACTLY
@@DontAsk-x6v What does that shitty statement mean..??.
You calling other people biased is very ironic ^^;
Why would a prominent doctor even socialize with someone like him let alone have a relationship with him? This doctor is not innocent as he looks in the photos. There is more to this story.
Prominent and well known in his profession and came from a religious family? Uh, it seems pretty obvious. Our society is so religious and judgmental of queer people.
Its gay sex for pay. Thats not much of a relationship
Sex.
He wanted thug 🍆
Baby big black peñe can make people do crazy things.
Once a person has
4,000 messages from a lowlife, he's a low life too. Maybe he didn't know it yet.
Thats damn lie what you stated ....You judgemental troll ....Just have a seat and learn the diffrence..... You can find poor people sexually attracted and still remain in your upper class
I don’t think so . He just trusted the wrong person
Maybe that is why he did so much charity as ppl. say. To cover up his dark life.
How about the DA doing such a great job of detailing the charges…shes got my endorsement for US Attorney General.
We should not condemn anyone. Whatever happened between them should not have cost his life. I wish it had never happened. Lord Have Mercy!
"OUTSIDE OF HIS CLASS" EVIDENTLY BBC WAS NOT OUTSIDE OF HIS CLASS.
The BBC is extremely addictive, forbidden fruit syndrome.
Gross.
And this was ALL about BBC, nothing more, nothing less.
That "think tank" is a show of clowns. They make The Three Stooges look like intellectuals. The giggle and laughter is so out of place....NOT on national TV. They essentially had a party on the grave of Dr. Hoover. All presented as immature and disrespectful to Dr. Hoover, along with his family. I'm embarrassed for you.
"he has friends in low places" LOL
Sad sick situation..
The whole case is disgusting. Prostitution, robbery, murder, all a hot mess. I'll leave it at that.
how do we know Dr. Hoover lived a double life? i think the portrayal of him as some closeted addict is really weird. he was a victim.
The guy in red glasses can stop talking.
Lol
Yeah, a total self-absorbed tool.
This is very unfortunate. What’s crazy is that I could have easily became his victim. Yea that’s right, I almost linked with this man on a chat site. I’m almost sure that the doctor met this coward on a familiar chat site where I chatted with this idiot. I remember his profile pic, the conversation we had and everything. He definitely was gay for pay as he tried to get me to pay him as well. This really gives me chills. I just cannot 😢my heart goes out to this man’s family.
@CelebNews24-7 thank GOD for your instincts
@@ItsMeDMC0530 absolutely! Thank God!
Just curious why do gay men have to pay? Are they not more willing than women?
Are you yte?
@@Prettygirlvita no I’m not
He lived a reckless lifestyle with these thugs. What did he think would happen?
Exactly
Those gay dude are wild mess up
Live kinky stuff
Gay Dr
Exactly. Why didn't he just get a normal boyfriend like everyone else?
sound like he had a type
Maybe it was a kink...liked the bad boy type @@user-rm3he6gu3g
Why do people given so much by god/universe/ life choose to spit in that Grace's face and live these weird nefarious lives????? Why? Why? WHHHHHHHY????
This panel was not it.
Wow ..what an overall freak show of deprivation, lust, greed, deception and stupidity
I thought we weren't jumping to conclusions. Why keep talking about the doctor being an addict?
I agree, there's zero evidence of drugs so why do they keep talking about drugs?
I knew him personally...... Never once seen him do drugs.. !! This man was top notch class ...Stop judging by his sexual orientation and by SOME of the company he kept ... He had all type of friends of all class
Yeah right. Look at tge guy he was romping with. Lets be real @leeshepherd5669
Exactly, thank you for saying what so badly needed to be said
Birds of a feather flock together. Would you socialize with criminals and drug addicts???
My question is? He could not find any other guy to have a relationship with? Or maybe he like a dangerous relationship
@@marisailumiada yes he liked dangerous relationships. Many people have a fetish for such relationships. Unfortunately Doc paid the price for such a foolish fetish. Wish more people would go seek therapy.
He worked so hard to have a good life.. very gifted . To have it torn down for nothing. So sad
The two men were in a relationship. Things clearly went sour.
The same type of relations go on in Atlanta too…especially in Buckhead.
He said.."who was stabbing who in the back"..🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
those orange glasses are the crime.
Ikr .. who let him on set with those on 😂😂 no mirrors around either ? Lol
Puahaha
😂😅
off topic but i would be scared to live in a mansion by myself
You home Boy's are scared of everything except getting bent over. 🎶 Lean Back, Lean Back 🎶
Bus See
He was so bright but lack common senses and it cost him his life. Sad to hear.
Chile... When it comes to broke trade, trade on drugs, and/or trade that's charging you, i know we can never be too careful, but y'all gotta be very careful ! That goes for transgender women, biological women, gay men, & bisexual men .
They had a relationship.
Thanks Vinnie for being the voice of reason amongst the most unreasonable. These people have lost their minds, completely out of touch.
You only need to take few online courses to be qualified as a "legal expert"
Them sneaky links can be dangerous.
Darn, that secret life!
With such a big house, someone else could be leaving in some other room and you don't even know.
RIP! We need specialty physicians! 😢😮
Did he have no concern about Aids/Hiv as a doctor hanging with those kind of people..???
Deviance doesn't discriminate.
Those kinds of people is coded for black folk. Let’s have class shall we? How many doctors are living with AIDS/HIV that aren’t black? That’s a mind blowing fact you may want to dig into your bigotry laced ideology. The doctor wanted some black penis is the only reasonable answer here. And to think all that was lost here over some fetishization. Real life cuck but you think HIV/AIDS was the doctors morality clause of retreat. Piece of work. Doctor died chasing his lovers cock is a wonderful headline.
Remember when you go to the doctor that perhaps your doctor is HIV+.
That’s a good point
What do you mean “these kind of people “. The doctor was “these kind of people “. Get off your racist classist horse. Both were victims of disgusting lifestyles.
People keep getting more and more depraved
He grew up Amish apparently. Living that lifestyle as a child can create some demons in you...
It might surprise you but people did these things as far back as antiquity. Nothing new under the sun.
The Dr had a thing for thugs and it caught up with him.
🙏 For his family
😂😂😂😂
I mean...
You ain't lyin
He dated a lot of different men.. Nothing wrong with that!
@@leeshepherd5669 I agree but you have to be careful
The perfect doctor not so perfect after all not surprised
I’m a fan of court tv and Vinnie, but I did not enjoy this panel segment. Insensitive, jumping to conclusion, drug accusations. A man lost his life. Working in healthcare I know that no matter the profession we are all just humans at the end of the day.
Motive was robbery imo. Your guests are ridiculous. The victim shaming is next level. Disgusting Vinnie.
Is it victim shaming or stating all the uncomfortable truths?.??
Did the victim do something shameful?
Time to start telling it the way it is and move on
Huh? The doctor clearly was no good.
The doctor was disgusting too apparently....
It took 15 months to solve this crime? There were 4,000 text messages with one person with multiple felony convictions. Cmon.
This dude probably planned this for a long time before actually carrying out the murder. He knew how rich this doctor was.
The way those lawyers were smiling . That was creepy
When you are rich,avoid poor people because they will get you to their level as soon as possible.
Oh wow you're covering this! It has been such a creepy mystery here. I clicked the notification from my local news app so fast earlier!