I remember an interview with her where she tried to just say they encourage athletes to eat “natural foods” like she had any training on or business in giving sports nutrition advice.
@@angeliastone-tolcher2386 I would agree, I thought either could have been National Team Coordinator, when we still had that position. However, I'm sure that they will fail someone's purity test. Afterall, why didn't Mihai know about Nasser's abuse and why didn't Gabby go back to Liang for her second Olympics training?
@@roamingramon6517 Gabby trained at Chow's again when she made her comeback to elite competition. She eventually left Chow's and ended up at Buckeye gymnastics in Ohio.
@@2001Butterflykisses but wasn't Aimee Simone's coach when she was being abused? And weren't the Landi's at WOGA when lots of gymnasts were being yelled at and overworked.
it was a pad that can be attached to the balance beam to cushion and widen it while learning skills, placed half on and half off the end to only be used on one landing... she missed the part that was actually on the beam.
So how did Alexis do at Brandi Johnson gymnastics? Love Jennie Thompson always a natural and a natural work horse❤ I always thought the ranch was a funny change. It reminded me of probably how gymnastics was in Romania and they managed to be one of the best Olympic Teams around. We are a pretty overly compensated Country so maybe we just expect far too much from everything. I think the best thing for USA gymnastics is for all coaches to speak nothing, all gymnasts speak nothing and all video spokesmen’s to speak nothing. That would be best. This is far too much negativity in all areas for anyone to want to listen to in the first place. Truth be known, we go to the gym regardless if we are obsessed with the sport no matter what anyone says perhaps. We need to be appreciative and revere what those behind us have done and make our own legacy. Just having trouble with all this negativity, not sure if it’s worse than the worst coach a Gymnast ever had or worse than a gymnast a coach ever had. Or the worst gym you ever trained in. Raises the question, does anyone really enjoy gymnastics, maybe not. Who knew!
This is disgusting. BUT it bothers me that we, as women, don't care about weigh in's with football, basketball, mma, boxing (I get those two but still) I'm a feminist and it bothers me that we say nothing about the mens weighins. Their coaches are just as brutal
Probably because men weight/body type is harshly pre selected so we don't see more diversity of it as we see on women. But the question is not exactly about the weight. The ideal is the athlete have a good shape by safety measures, it can varies from individual to individual. Some individuals look like bit "off of perfect shape" but work well or in the same level as other athletes. The major problem is the way these coaches treat them. Some issues like weight is inevitable in high performance sports. Seems these coaches never tried a nuanced, individualized and sympathetic way to approach their "pupils". Things like "cut off all the food before competition" is not just an extreme but also an unsafe measure.
For football and basketball I totally agree. I know virtually nothing re: the other sports but the weigh ins make a bit more sense because they fight by weight class.
I think it’s because gymnastics is typically young girls. CHILDREN. Not that it makes it right for men, but I think that’s why it’s emphasized so much in this sport
😱 Mary Lee was awesome!!! One of the best!!! ❤❤❤❤❤ Do you even realise how Dominique M has bad mouthed EVERY SINGLE COACH SHES EVER WORKED WITH??????😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮 These “has been’s “ are good for 1 thing……. Talking $h!t bc they were incapable of producing anything that they could have done, especially their laziness!!!!
MLT, was absolutely honest in saying that she changed with the culture of gymnastics. Don’t blame her for the methods of coaching that came before her. I, like MLT, learned so much from Bela but we also learned some of the bad stuff. At this period in coaching, we were getting no where in our country with gymnastics. Bela , although he did many wrong things, he helped us see how we could up our game and make champions. THIS WAS THE CULTURE WE WERE IN AND THE WAY WE BEST LEARNED THAT WOULD LEAD TO DEVELOPING CHAMPIONSHIP! Look at your list of those who are considered “abusive” and look at their age and their timing in our sport!!!!😮😮😮 America wanted medals, Americans wanted to be the best especially during the Cold War and that opened up with Bela and Mary Lou!!!ALSO, AMERICA SAW WHAT WAS POSSIBLE, and they JUMPED ON IT!!!!! We have never been able to even compete or compare with the Russians or other Eastern Bloc nations but Hallowed be the most famous coach defected here and taught us how to make champions. I’m not saying that it’s right but now, look at Romania gymnastics??? They are now, since I was there, operating completely different, athletes first etc so you should all ask yourselves what you want??? Happy athletes or medals??? Well, nowadays you don’t have to because we have the likes of Simone and others, who btw, came up, in their youth, under the strict advisement of the Karolyi’s, IF YOU WANT TO BLAME SOMEONE, BLAME YOURSELVES 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
"What do you want, happy athletes or medals" Happy (and HEALTHY) athletes! Every time, 100 goddamn percent! Medals are great and all, but at the end of the day, this is a game not a matter of life or death, and a lot of these athletes are teenagers. Physical and emotional damage inflicted on them during these formative years can affect them for their whole lives. Grow some perspective. For what it's worth, I don't think the two have to be mutually exclusive; in fact, I think that athletes who have the environment, support, and care they need to be happy in the sport are going to be a lot more successful than they would be if they were starved, verbally abused, made to train and compete injured, etc. as many of their predecessors have been. But since you choose to frame it as a false dichotomy - yeah, I as a coach would 100% prefer not to give kids lasting damage that will take them decades in therapy and a hip replacement at 40 to work through as adults. Even if they never win a single medal (and for the record, I have several Texas state champions on the team I coach), the LAST thing I want for my gymnasts is to feel like the place in their life where they spend the most time other than school is a toxic environment that makes them unhappy.
@@Altoclarinets 😂😂😂 oh lord, another one of those “coaches” who has probably never worked with or even had the opportunity to coach or even be in the mix with ACTUAL Elite gymnasts and coaches. I really am shocked by your horrendous language but considering the statement you attempted to make, I guess if I were as clueless as you and in way over my head speaking about something that you know absolutely NOTHING ABOUT, I would say it could possibly make someone want to use such profane words, as numerous studies have shown that when the majority of people, we’ll call them “coaches of small caliber athletes “ and those who have been in the top echelons of our sport, me, those who don’t even have a clue about what goes on in the elite world, get so aggravated and use idiotic comments and statements like you have. I don’t even use those words in everyday life. Regardless, stick to your young athletes/ children, obviously, and stop passing blame on things and circumstances that you have absolutely no BUSINESS MESSING WITH. Go and coach your little level 1’s to hmmmmm😂😂😂😂I’m guessing level 4’s at the most! Leave the big issues and talented athletes to us real coaches !
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I'm so glad Dominique M opened her own gym!!
And her legs
What does that mean? She didn’t open her legs for anyone. WTH?
morgan white was not an alternate
I remember an interview with her where she tried to just say they encourage athletes to eat “natural foods” like she had any training on or business in giving sports nutrition advice.
Who do you think is a good gymnastics coach?
Liang Chow and Mehai Brestyan
@@angeliastone-tolcher2386 I would agree, I thought either could have been National Team Coordinator, when we still had that position. However, I'm sure that they will fail someone's purity test. Afterall, why didn't Mihai know about Nasser's abuse and why didn't Gabby go back to Liang for her second Olympics training?
@@roamingramon6517 Gabby trained at Chow's again when she made her comeback to elite competition. She eventually left Chow's and ended up at Buckeye gymnastics in Ohio.
Sarah Jantzi, Aimee Boorman, Laurent and Cecile Landi
@@2001Butterflykisses but wasn't Aimee Simone's coach when she was being abused? And weren't the Landi's at WOGA when lots of gymnasts were being yelled at and overworked.
what is that footage of amanda borden breaking the balance beam from?!? Is that a real beam? omg ow
!! Hello?
it was a pad that can be attached to the balance beam to cushion and widen it while learning skills, placed half on and half off the end to only be used on one landing... she missed the part that was actually on the beam.
So how did Alexis do at Brandi Johnson gymnastics? Love Jennie Thompson always a natural and a natural work horse❤ I always thought the ranch was a funny change. It reminded me of probably how gymnastics was in Romania and they managed to be one of the best Olympic Teams around. We are a pretty overly compensated Country so maybe we just expect far too much from everything. I think the best thing for USA gymnastics is for all coaches to speak nothing, all gymnasts speak nothing and all video spokesmen’s to speak nothing. That would be best. This is far too much negativity in all areas for anyone to want to listen to in the first place. Truth be known, we go to the gym regardless if we are obsessed with the sport no matter what anyone says perhaps. We need to be appreciative and revere what those behind us have done and make our own legacy. Just having trouble with all this negativity, not sure if it’s worse than the worst coach a Gymnast ever had or worse than a gymnast a coach ever had. Or the worst gym you ever trained in. Raises the question, does anyone really enjoy gymnastics, maybe not. Who knew!
This is disgusting. BUT it bothers me that we, as women, don't care about weigh in's with football, basketball, mma, boxing (I get those two but still) I'm a feminist and it bothers me that we say nothing about the mens weighins. Their coaches are just as brutal
That's because this is a channel about gymnastics....
I was talking "in general." I love this channel, watch every video
Probably because men weight/body type is harshly pre selected so we don't see more diversity of it as we see on women. But the question is not exactly about the weight. The ideal is the athlete have a good shape by safety measures, it can varies from individual to individual. Some individuals look like bit "off of perfect shape" but work well or in the same level as other athletes. The major problem is the way these coaches treat them. Some issues like weight is inevitable in high performance sports. Seems these coaches never tried a nuanced, individualized and sympathetic way to approach their "pupils". Things like "cut off all the food before competition" is not just an extreme but also an unsafe measure.
For football and basketball I totally agree. I know virtually nothing re: the other sports but the weigh ins make a bit more sense because they fight by weight class.
I think it’s because gymnastics is typically young girls. CHILDREN. Not that it makes it right for men, but I think that’s why it’s emphasized so much in this sport
😱 Mary Lee was awesome!!! One of the best!!! ❤❤❤❤❤
Do you even realise how Dominique M has bad mouthed EVERY SINGLE COACH SHES EVER WORKED WITH??????😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮
These “has been’s “ are good for 1 thing……. Talking $h!t bc they were incapable of producing anything that they could have done, especially their laziness!!!!
MLT, was absolutely honest in saying that she changed with the culture of gymnastics. Don’t blame her for the methods of coaching that came before her. I, like MLT, learned so much from Bela but we also learned some of the bad stuff. At this period in coaching, we were getting no where in our country with gymnastics. Bela , although he did many wrong things, he helped us see how we could up our game and make champions.
THIS WAS THE CULTURE WE WERE IN AND THE WAY WE BEST LEARNED THAT WOULD LEAD TO DEVELOPING CHAMPIONSHIP!
Look at your list of those who are considered “abusive” and look at their age and their timing in our sport!!!!😮😮😮
America wanted medals, Americans wanted to be the best especially during the Cold War and that opened up with Bela and Mary Lou!!!ALSO, AMERICA SAW WHAT WAS POSSIBLE, and they JUMPED ON IT!!!!!
We have never been able to even compete or compare with the Russians or other Eastern Bloc nations but Hallowed be the most famous coach defected here and taught us how to make champions. I’m not saying that it’s right but now, look at Romania gymnastics??? They are now, since I was there, operating completely different, athletes first etc so you should all ask yourselves what you want??? Happy athletes or medals??? Well, nowadays you don’t have to because we have the likes of Simone and others, who btw, came up, in their youth, under the strict advisement of the Karolyi’s,
IF YOU WANT TO BLAME SOMEONE, BLAME YOURSELVES 😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
"What do you want, happy athletes or medals" Happy (and HEALTHY) athletes! Every time, 100 goddamn percent! Medals are great and all, but at the end of the day, this is a game not a matter of life or death, and a lot of these athletes are teenagers. Physical and emotional damage inflicted on them during these formative years can affect them for their whole lives. Grow some perspective.
For what it's worth, I don't think the two have to be mutually exclusive; in fact, I think that athletes who have the environment, support, and care they need to be happy in the sport are going to be a lot more successful than they would be if they were starved, verbally abused, made to train and compete injured, etc. as many of their predecessors have been. But since you choose to frame it as a false dichotomy - yeah, I as a coach would 100% prefer not to give kids lasting damage that will take them decades in therapy and a hip replacement at 40 to work through as adults. Even if they never win a single medal (and for the record, I have several Texas state champions on the team I coach), the LAST thing I want for my gymnasts is to feel like the place in their life where they spend the most time other than school is a toxic environment that makes them unhappy.
@@Altoclarinets 😂😂😂 oh lord, another one of those “coaches” who has probably never worked with or even had the opportunity to coach or even be in the mix with ACTUAL Elite gymnasts and coaches. I really am shocked by your horrendous language but considering the statement you attempted to make, I guess if I were as clueless as you and in way over my head speaking about something that you know absolutely NOTHING ABOUT, I would say it could possibly make someone want to use such profane words, as numerous studies have shown that when the majority of people, we’ll call them “coaches of small caliber athletes “ and those who have been in the top echelons of our sport, me, those who don’t even have a clue about what goes on in the elite world, get so aggravated and use idiotic comments and statements like you have. I don’t even use those words in everyday life.
Regardless, stick to your young athletes/ children, obviously, and stop passing blame on things and circumstances that you have absolutely no BUSINESS MESSING WITH. Go and coach your little level 1’s to hmmmmm😂😂😂😂I’m guessing level 4’s at the most! Leave the big issues and talented athletes to us real coaches !