This eBike Means The Death of Traditional MTBs?

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ม.ค. 2024
  • Mondraker Neat is virtually indistinguishable from a regular mountain bike, and provides 300 watts of motor power, with 50Nm of torque, and a removable 360Wh battery.
    Check more on the bike here: bit.ly/3OjK2Ql
    ETHICS, DISCLAIMER and TRANSPARENCY: Mondraker hired me to test the bike, review it and to produce a video for on my TH-cam channel, and is such labelled as a paid partnership on TH-cam. Mondraker have had no direct input on this content or any editorial or narrative control over the video. This paid partnership with Mondraker has allowed me time to test the bike and also film and edit over multiple days working with an independent film crew to help capture the bike shots and produce the video content.
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  • @HiruS22
    @HiruS22 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +187

    It’s nice and all, but what the market is really waiting for is a sub 19kg inc 500Wh+ battery, full power, good looks and sub £5k. Whoever gets there first will clean up.

    • @marauder7412
      @marauder7412 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Not likely to happen. Batteries, motors and frames are not getting much lighter than they already are.

    • @TheRealOrangeGringo
      @TheRealOrangeGringo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      The Whyte E-lyte is almost there. Just not sub £5k. 400Wh + RangeMore 250wh. 16.5KG (or 19KG, depending on the model). 600 watt motor. Just £10k plus, unfortunately.

    • @brendansherlock6442
      @brendansherlock6442 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      I'd say 6.5k many would find it worthwhile to stretch the budget to. 8k up is just silly territory. 10k plus is an industry destroyer. Why, well anyone vaguely aware of the world geopolitical state knows we are going into very dicey times and a bike is just a bike, we can't lose our minds over our passion for biking, reality bites and all that.

    • @mac46rr
      @mac46rr 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      In my view what “the market “ wants is much better motor reliability and waterproofing………..yes I and my wife have had too many such issues. 😬😕

    • @tomjoyce6365
      @tomjoyce6365 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@marauder7412 you’d be mad to bet against it. Just look at the speed of technological advancement and innovation. 3 years I’d say.

  • @ClareFPV
    @ClareFPV 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Bro went from reviewing bikes to producing cinema masterpiece. Sound Effects, image quality and edit is 🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @shazbotic
      @shazbotic 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Paid for video. Film crew. Nonetheless, lovely job.

  • @EMTBPodcast
    @EMTBPodcast 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Deer, ponies and ebikes in a drone shot! What more can I say...Bravo.

  • @markdance574
    @markdance574 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +95

    As an ebike owner and owner of previous Carbon Mtb’s the first major issue with e-bikes is THE COST! And to be honest no mater the brand -there’s no way it justifies the price .
    The second major issue seems to be the price DEPRECIATION . With new models coming out fairly quickly pre owned bike prices are crashing. Third major issue is - as mentioned- not enough cross compatibility or cross upgrade ability.

    • @drewjonespdx
      @drewjonespdx 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That’s the trade off for access to cutting edge tech. Especially a tech that’s in its infancy stage of development

    • @helicopter12345678
      @helicopter12345678 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah agreed but as Rob said s it the price we pay for cutting edge tech I just find ways to justify it and make the most of the bike enjoy the trails, I do feel the lighter ebikes offer a more all round bike that enables you to ride it even without power or a battery 🤔😊
      Arthur

    • @fzr1000981
      @fzr1000981 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Crestline is only $12k retail

    • @bradsanders6954
      @bradsanders6954 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I dont get it with the cost problem, a non e mt bike can cost just as much.
      Much cheaper workable EMTB's can be had, around 4 K or even less. If thats too much then you have to buy used.
      All this clap trap about silence and serenity, an e bike that isnt like an e bike, I like my 900WH full powered Canyon EMTB, it hails ass, it will go 60 miles and still have battery.
      A bike with out good range, or proper power, is a specialty item. The power can be used up in no time.

    • @bradsanders6954
      @bradsanders6954 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@helicopter12345678 I really like my 24lb Intense Sniper, ride it a lot.
      But I really like my Canyon Spectral ON, I can run it in boost mode for 4 hours and still have good battery left.
      Its an E bike, it makes power, huge battery.
      Its good to have choices. Riding an EMTB with not much power or battery..............yeah it can be done.
      Out of the 7 guys I ride in a pack with, the guy that had the baby motor/tiny battery TREK? Gave it to his wife and bought a full power EMTB.

  • @jay8miller
    @jay8miller 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    Cinematic masterpiece as always Rob 🤌🏻

  • @228slide
    @228slide 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Those horses from the background are just...... Amazing 👍

  • @milocuevas
    @milocuevas 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    man I love your videos the footage is just amazing, even though I personally don't care about lightweight ebikes I still watch the full video just because those shots are so pleasing I mean is like an emtb movie, there is even a beautiful horse galloping around and animals on those hills. magnificent I was even wondering when you would release a new video.

  • @egregor123
    @egregor123 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I went from a Sworks LEVO full powered to this Mondraker Neat and I am more then happy!!..excellent choice. I was tired of the power of a full eMTB, the weight in tech tight switchbacks etc and the noise! also missed the natural feel and the effort on the climbs...and this bike nailed all of that!!!! its a beauty and so well made

    • @jimsteinway695
      @jimsteinway695 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree. I have the fuel EXe with the same TQ system. I didn’t want a motorcycle I still wanted to work like when I road my Sworks stump jumper

    • @KosmicHRTRacingTeam
      @KosmicHRTRacingTeam 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jimsteinway695if you really wanted to “work” like that, you wouldn’t be riding any form of ebike. Sorry to point out the obvious.

    • @KosmicHRTRacingTeam
      @KosmicHRTRacingTeam 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There are adjustments on your old Levo that dictate power, it doesn’t always have to be in “full power” mode.

    • @Manu_Air228
      @Manu_Air228 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@KosmicHRTRacingTeam thats wrong. You have the same workout as with a normal bike, but you'll double the descents, which is double the fun. Sorry to point out the obvious

    • @superseba3395
      @superseba3395 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Manu_Air228its completely imposible to get the same workout as in an analog bike. Its Just a lie that you tell yourself

  • @DavidSmith-wy5js
    @DavidSmith-wy5js 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Some great camera work Rob, looks an interesting bike.

  • @FilipeRicardoMTB
    @FilipeRicardoMTB 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Incredible video and that Mondraker is really a nice bike! I am now entering in the emtb world and is Nice to know about the variety of type of bikes and functions. 🤙

  • @p.k.7111
    @p.k.7111 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another perfect presentation, magnificent shots and edit!

  • @briangong007
    @briangong007 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video and the quality of cinematography was awesome!

  • @rohankilby4499
    @rohankilby4499 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Hey Rob couple of years into my trek fuel EXe and totally agree with your comments, I still ride my regular analog bike as well but when it’s hot or I’m squeezing in a quick after work ride the EXe is my first choice for sure. I ride solo mostly so running in lower power modes no issues for longer rides. When riding with mates on full fat bikes I can rinse my battery super quick trying to keep up so will look at a range extender this year but can usually ride home unpowered without too many issues just slow going.
    When away I usually hire a full fat bike and enjoy them very much but always glad to get back on the quieter more playful machine round my home trails. Swapped out the standard fox 36 rhythm fork for Fox performance elite 38s originally ran 170 on the front but settled back on 160mm travel which appears to be the bike and myself’s sweet spot regarding steering and handling, installed better tyres as stock options were pretty easy to kill on my rocky loose trails no issues with reliability so far vey happy with the bike all round.

    • @davefreeman9347
      @davefreeman9347 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Interesting what you have done with your bike, I’ve had my Trek exe for a few months now love it 👌

    • @rohankilby4499
      @rohankilby4499 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@davefreeman9347 Hey Dave, definitely worth running the 160mm shock out front I’ve found the Fox 38s fair bit stiffer than 36s.
      I’d originally wanted to go a rock shox lyric out front but was offered the 38s for a great price. It’s probably over kill on what’s essentially a trail bike but wow the bike is a weapon now on fast technical single track and bombs down all mountain enduro stuff with a lot more poise.
      Rode it stock for a year to analyse its strengths and weaknesses like most fuels the rear end is very good stock and the plusher longer travel of the fork upgrade was well worth it. Upgraded the rear rim to a DT Swiss FR DH spec as killed original rim in first year of use and running DD spec side walls and insert on rear tyre lots of sharp rocks on my trails. No worries keeping up with the full fats going down just gotta battery manage chasing them up 😁👍

    • @steray8112
      @steray8112 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Which tires, may I ask?
      Great comments!

    • @davefreeman9347
      @davefreeman9347 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rohankilby4499 that’s great to hear definitely given me sometimes think about 👍 I’ve already upgraded the wheels as stock were terrible

  • @ryanedwards8549
    @ryanedwards8549 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video as always Rob. Looking forwards to prices coming down on these as perfect set up for me but can’t justify second and car prices for my weekend hobby!

  • @invisibleazn9330
    @invisibleazn9330 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I believe the transition relay (also an ebike) is available in a spec that is about 18 kilos (39-40 lbs) also.

  • @adriangidney7134
    @adriangidney7134 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice review Rob, love the idea of the TQ motor, at 61 after 30+yrs of riding mtb bought a 2nd hand levo Sl this time last year. Some of my analogue mates don't get it, still call it cheating but the ability to still get a workout but ride further or faster with an Sl bike is the best of both worlds. Like the idea of the removable battery which the levo sl hasn't got. For me where money is tight a well researched low mileage 2nd hand bike is the way forward. £3.5k for my carbon sl expert + a range extender. Since up graded to GX Axs shifting, don't know how I would live without axs now. Keep up the good work. Video on buying 2nd hand maybe?

  • @rickbault1221
    @rickbault1221 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Simply an epic review Rob!

  • @jeanmarc_in_Hudson
    @jeanmarc_in_Hudson 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for a nice review Rob! Very interesting, think I'll keep my high powered e-mtb for now but I might go lightweight eventually. 👍

  • @gingerb36
    @gingerb36 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Nice review Rob, lovely cinematography

    • @antone9751
      @antone9751 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s videography. Cinematography is not the same

  • @endymion8672
    @endymion8672 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    On full-powered I feel like I'm the understudy in the rider-bike relationship, on analog the physical stress often overshadows the fun. I got soaked into riding SL mid-assist last spring and I couldn't agree more with your review👍 5400 miles on my Trek Fuel EXe. I have 2 full-size 360Wh batteries and on long trips the spare (4lbs) gets strapped into my backpack. Range? I went 76.2 mi→ 5230 ft↑ last fall in Taos highland using ECO and a little bit of TRAIL in the steep😄

    • @user-lu1se9ub2z
      @user-lu1se9ub2z 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      was the 76.2 miles using both batteries? I just purchased the exe 9.7 and wondering about a battery or extender?

    • @endymion8672
      @endymion8672 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@user-lu1se9ub2z Yes, both batteries used of course. Batteries down to 0% and 3%.

    • @829250
      @829250 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And what's your weight, bro?

    • @endymion8672
      @endymion8672 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@829250 5'10", 154 lbs, recreational runner and mountain biker. Not much power in upper body but legs are ok😀

    • @br5380
      @br5380 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Kenevo SLhere, easy 7,500 ft of elevation if I keep to 50% or less power, with the extender.
      Seems Rob’s realised that full fat eebs are really mopeds 😀

  • @tomac7
    @tomac7 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wow! Very nice filming

  • @jamesfeltham1250
    @jamesfeltham1250 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Headset cable routing (someone tought that was a good idea three years ago !) and the price are the only reasons I wouldn't buy one. Lovely looking bikes.

  • @waycon
    @waycon 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would love this alongside my full-fat eebs and normal bike -Also ace camera work in these lastest vids man.

  • @TonTo36
    @TonTo36 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Really nice video Rob. The scenery is just amazing! Just one question. Can you compare the Mondraker to the Levo SL or the Kenevo SL?

  • @LiveAeons
    @LiveAeons 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great shots with the deers and horse in the background!

  • @jensh.9779
    @jensh.9779 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice Video, beatiful landscape!

  • @johnpaquin337
    @johnpaquin337 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is your nicest production yet! I had to check a few times to see if that herd of deer were digital!lol

    • @garethrobinson2275
      @garethrobinson2275 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Haha, good to see someone is doing due diligence!

  • @davefreeman9347
    @davefreeman9347 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great review absolutely spot on Rob about these SL bikes I have the Trek Fuel exe which as you know has the same motor system it’s great for those power hours as I can go at least a third further than I normally would, but I’ve ridden the 40km rides with 900 meters of climbing and I know I’ve had a great workout but I don’t feel beaten up by the trail and bike and done for the day, I can get out and enjoy the rest of the day with the family etc

  • @crt269
    @crt269 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The price for this bike is $21K AUD. who in their right mind would pay that!

    • @brendansherlock6442
      @brendansherlock6442 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A holes

    • @TheWebstaff
      @TheWebstaff 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@brendansherlock6442fat dentists. 😂😂😂

    • @mightywallaby
      @mightywallaby 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Less e-bike for more money. If it was an electric car it would be the cheaper model because it doesn’t go as far and takes longer to get there.

  • @bostondye3736
    @bostondye3736 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Hiring wild horses to be in your video... You really outdid yourself!

  • @infoborn662
    @infoborn662 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very well done as always Rob!! Sure an interesting bike, and it look good ;) I am still debating what size of e-bike to get when it will come to that moment .. Right now I am leaning more towards lighter models.

  • @markbabb3722
    @markbabb3722 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great vid looks like my backyard the Quantocs , since riding e-bike I have explored more in 5 years than I did 20 years on analogue😀

    • @fast_daz
      @fast_daz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Came here to say the same. Awesome XC, and Triscombe.

  • @garyfuller6553
    @garyfuller6553 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video as always. I find it. Curious, you didn’t mention the price only that it was expensive. Mondraker really needs to take a look at their pricing because it is expensive.
    My Crafty RR carbon is a nice bike, but much more of a trail geometry. Actually thinking of putting another degree of slack with offset headset

  • @ddsgardening7437
    @ddsgardening7437 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Amazing love it but these days my Max bpm is 155 I'll stay with my 640w 80nm always enjoy your shows Rob 🙏🇦🇺

    • @jimsteinway695
      @jimsteinway695 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My max is similar to yours but I still ride my road Roubaix and my Sworks stumpjumper. But to keep up with my son I got a trek Fuel EXe. I didn’t want a 600w motorcycle. Nobody can even tell I have an e bike

  • @andraskiszely1545
    @andraskiszely1545 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Sorry Rob ....
    2021 Orbea Rise M ltd -series 15.9 kg.....
    60 Nm....

    • @mallefitz
      @mallefitz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Great bike, But not nearly as silent 😊

  • @camwoo
    @camwoo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This bike seems great. I have a full fat emtb (Nukeproof Megawatt) and I ended up losing around 13kgs last year from dieting. Now my full fat almost seems like too much power and battery for me because I keep it on eco mode when climbing. The Neat looks like it would give me just enough assist and battery while being 18 instead of 24kgs.

    • @hawthornewalker4105
      @hawthornewalker4105 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You're missing a trick.
      Ride your full fat like a enduro Mx bike.
      Incorporate super tech, steep as fuck climbs into your rides!

    • @lukasvrana6388
      @lukasvrana6388 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@hawthornewalker4105 exactly :) we started to ride up local trails which are meant to be downhill only :D (not official one direction ones, just local "illegals" ! )

    • @camwoo
      @camwoo 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@hawthornewalker4105 Yes, true, that is a thing you can do but I can't deny that I love the downhill way more that I do the uphill even still. The only reason I ride an emtb is so that I can do more downhill. To each their own though!

  • @TheWebstaff
    @TheWebstaff 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I also love feeling the burn.
    Luckaly I have 6 power levels on my ebike ranging from, you do the work to I will do all the work on this heavy bike.

  • @outdoorotter9319
    @outdoorotter9319 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Watching your videos feels like watching a movie. Amazing quality

  • @johnglynn7795
    @johnglynn7795 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rob, truly enjoyed your review!!! As I followed you back during your Isle of Skye adventure; where did you film this with the animals running in the background? Stellar review!!!! Blue skies...

  • @ianharding3044
    @ianharding3044 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cheers Rob , good article.
    What a really interesting bike. I like the idea of it.
    The advantage of pedalling over the limiter and not noticing any drag is good.
    Would I buy one . Not at that price.

  • @Jesse_James_
    @Jesse_James_ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi ! I will not choose this bike because there is a Rotwild RX 375 which weighs 18.5 kg and has a full 85nm Shimano motor and an easily replaceable 360 battery. This is a bike from two worlds. You should definitely try it !

  • @simonnewbery10
    @simonnewbery10 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant video as always Rob, love your videos like this. I noticed that the top tube display speed and distance was in kilometres & mph, do you know if this can be changed to miles & mph?

    • @RobRidesEMTB
      @RobRidesEMTB  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi, sure yes it can be changed, in the TQ app (as well as other things like motor power in the various modes, etc)

  • @planofaction8124
    @planofaction8124 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Looks great but tbh when you can still get a levo with 700WH and 90NM for 22kg it just doesn’t make any sense to buy this IMO

  • @G00glieS
    @G00glieS 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great review! Could you please also test Scott Lumen?

  • @MTB_ADVENTURE
    @MTB_ADVENTURE 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice review. I just ordered the Specialized Levo SL Expert Carbon... Makes me think "did I make the right choice?". Also nice drone-shots, Rob!

    • @brianblessedsbeard
      @brianblessedsbeard 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Dont you worry, youre going to love the SL!

    • @MTB_ADVENTURE
      @MTB_ADVENTURE 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brianblessedsbeard thanks 🙏

  • @ThePedro1664
    @ThePedro1664 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    looks amazing, where was this filmed? would love to visit....

  • @a.w.mmathijssen7517
    @a.w.mmathijssen7517 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    another great review! i bought my wild because your great video of it. What handle bar is on that bike?

  • @Rubblechops
    @Rubblechops 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Been waiting for this one. Looks great and would suit my needs. Hard to justify the price rn though when most fuel exes seem to be 25 - 30% off.
    Will it bikepark do you think?

  • @jeromep4148
    @jeromep4148 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How does the assist compare to a full power when running in eco mode? I mostly ride in eco mode to get a good workout, but I have been intrigued by lightweight lower power systems.

  • @MYMOUNTAIN_122
    @MYMOUNTAIN_122 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Honestly if this was offered in a mullet setup Id def have one, as I have the superfoxy, however for my mid powered fix I purchased the Heckler SL with the Fazua, awesome bike absolutely love riding it, however after only 4 rides the motor has started making the famous fazua rattle,,,, #warranty and still waiting...
    On the plus side the mondraker Neat is an awesome looking machine for sure, just think that they should have a little more grunt peak 450watts.
    Killer footage mate.

    • @justsayin3600
      @justsayin3600 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you're like me, short kegs and long torso, I don't like full 27.5 five but love a mixed wheel setup. 29er in the rear is absolutely miserable with rear-end buzz. Any bike that's not mix wheel counts me out.

  • @fpainchaud350
    @fpainchaud350 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I did make that choice this year with the Trek EXe with the TQ motor.

  • @martinbower2915
    @martinbower2915 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great video. Whereabouts is this filmed ? it looks amazing

  • @chrisanderson8578
    @chrisanderson8578 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love how understated these look. Mondraker is always on point with aesthetics.
    On the opposite end of the scale, where are you at with your Haibike review?

  • @barselas
    @barselas 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great review!
    Without taking anything from the review itself,
    Personally I dislike the notion of ANY bike "killing" traditional MTBs. (Not that top XC are exactly traditional, but... oh, well.)
    Just a short list, people still lift weights, run considerable distances, climb mountains (sometimes deliberately without gear), swim, and cycle without help.
    Some people (and not few) still want to feel they are 100% responsible for their sporting performance. That will not change in the foreseeable future, and I'd say even hundreds of years to come (as people competed for performance for millenias).
    Yes, ebikes will dominate amateur enduro (people who like only the downhill) and some other areas.
    Yes, ebikes are a rising force in many areas.
    But, "indistinguishable" is far from the only factor when considering ebike vs bike.
    Cheers,
    Keep up the good work 🙂

    • @steray8112
      @steray8112 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm 70, living in San Diego, and have biked my whole life. Every person tells me to start with a used mtb before transitioning to emtb. There are thousands of gravel trails in the area. Suggestions?

  • @dadventuretv2538
    @dadventuretv2538 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looked up some stats on the Neat R-the “more affordable” $7,999 one. It’s 41.7 lbs. But it doesn’t say what size- M or L? Be good to know, bc that makes a difference. Has a Fox 36 and Exo + casing tires and 200 mm rotors instead of a 38 and DD tires and 220 mm rotors that my full power emtb has. And having destroyed two tires this past year just demoing these bikes for an hour, and seeing how much I burn the brakes on mine bc of how fast I’m going, I really think those things are helpful. 36 vs 38- goes to riding style- you def will want to be able to pick your lines and flick the bike more because you’ll want a 38 if you are smashing the way emtbs allow you to. Make those changes and now add the battery extender- you’re close to 50 lbs. Not much below some full power ones. My Large Oso is 53 lbs. And after really being intrigued by this category of bike, but doing the research and finding out these things, and then realizing how I like to ride emtbs (see my other comment) I really don’t understand the point of these. Not yet. They’re not quite light enough yet to fulfill their promises. With one exception- the ones that allow you take out the battery and ride without it. Because the almost zero drag motors are a game changer when riding sans power. To me, that would be my use case for these bikes- one bike I can have to take places and ride it with or without the battery.

  • @jasemaxable
    @jasemaxable 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video. How far away is re gen. ??

  • @benitezjosem30
    @benitezjosem30 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really enjoy the viedo.✅ subscribed

  • @jimmypeek817
    @jimmypeek817 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I saw one of these in the bike shop this past weekend. What a beautiful bike. Two problems with that one. First, it was $18k US and had to be shipped in from another state, ($18K is the problem, probably free shipping, HAHAHA). Second, it didn't run and the shop it was brought to didn't know what was wrong. The nearest shop that sold this bike was 8 hours away by car. Boutique brands are all well and good, until you need work. These bikes are getting very complicated to work on.

  • @kvelikov1
    @kvelikov1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool video, as always!
    My question - is it possible to charge the battery out of the bike and is it necessary to buy an adapter (for example as it's with Shimano)?
    Thanks. 👍

    • @RobRidesEMTB
      @RobRidesEMTB  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi - thanks! Yes, battery is removable and can be charged off the bike - no adapter required as far as I can remember

  • @helicopter12345678
    @helicopter12345678 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Further to my previous comment and your question I want this bike because I too love riding my regular bike I have a full power Mondraker Crafty XR but wanted something closer to a regular bike as you described and I thought I could even ride this bike without the battery if I wanted to reduce the weight further or ride with my friends who still only have regular bikes plus it has enough travel to be enduro for me
    Thanks
    Arthur

  • @psxdadz
    @psxdadz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You can get the Trek fuel exe 9.5 in the uk from various places on sale for £3899 carbon frame same motor lower spec components now that’s a deal

  • @Danny2009ie
    @Danny2009ie 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Eagerly waiting for you Mondraker Dune full review.

  • @markifi
    @markifi 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    wildlife shots here are something else. well done

  • @bionic909
    @bionic909 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great filming

  • @bradsanders6954
    @bradsanders6954 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is a well done ad. Much more of an obvious paid for sales pitch than usual.
    The music, the serenity, "serenity now!" The bike? Doesnt make enough power, doesnt come with a big enough battery, its for people that want an e bike that doesnt look like an e bike. 85NM is just about enough, I want an e bike that goes like an e bike.
    I really think credibility is seriously downgraded when a post becomes an ad. Money is money.

  • @jmo2752
    @jmo2752 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice balanced review there - pros and cons (even if some of the pros did sound a bit like they came from the Mondraker brochure mind you ;o)
    fwiw. I think the issue (other than the overall price of a high-end bike like this) with the 'mid-power' eMTBs is they still are neither one or the other? A full power eMTB (85Nm motor) gives you a significant boost in climbing ability - to tackle stuff most people would never be able to pedal up without assistance - and while admittedly I tend to ride my Kenevo in Trail mode set at 60% (Nm) most of the time, you still have that immediate option for extra boost (either by pedalling harder or to change to Turbo) that bikes like this lack... Related to that is the range - a smaller lighter battery helps to save weight of course, but if you're taking one or two range extenders out with you on anything other than a short 'play' ride, then the weight saving benefit is negated, and you're still 35Nm shy of having full power on demand.

    • @jmo2752
      @jmo2752 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      But yes, as you suggest - I think this 50Nm TQ motor (and the new Specialized SL motor which offers similar 'mid-range' power now too) is probably all most people need to help them up the steeper hills, and their design doesn't have the drag when your battery is depleted/switched off in the same way as most full-power motors do. It would be nice to see this kind of mid-power bike designed with a battery compartment which could accept a significantly larger capacity battery (rather than have to rely on range-extenders), for those people who do want an all-day ride eMTB.

    • @streddaz
      @streddaz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As Rob said, it depends on what the rider is looking for. The SL bikes are more for the rider that wants the normal MTB feel but some assistance to ride further than they ever could on a non-Ebike. I have a first gen Levo SL and it only has 35Nm of torque and for me that's fine. I can keep up with full powered bikes on single track climbs, so it's only on the fire trail stuff that they drop me. When it comes to flat going or gradual descents, I can gap the full powered bikes as they feel like you have hit a wall when they hit the speed cut. Most of the SL bikes pedal like a normal bike above the speed cut.

  • @MrThepits
    @MrThepits 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice, but can you test ride the haibike nduro 8 freeride you looked at a couple of weeks ago please ?

  • @michaelpenrose1
    @michaelpenrose1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When bikes reach this cost, you should get a range extender as part of the bike cost, also manufacturers should fit country/region specific tyres and you shouldn't need to change any parts, due them not being the very best you can get, only change should be personal preference.

  • @alexenflow
    @alexenflow 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video! I would like to know more about the TQ App. It’s possible to record the ride? What data?? Watts…? Just to use it with trainingpeaks

    • @RobRidesEMTB
      @RobRidesEMTB  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hi Alex - stay tuned more more deep dive on TQ soon. I use training peaks / Garmin etc also, so will share how it can all work.

  • @kburn
    @kburn 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have a Fuel EXe and use the fidlock adaptor for the RE, its a really good solution, isnt this Mondraker basically a Fuel EXe? No downside there to have some other options.

  • @SW-ku9ji
    @SW-ku9ji 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The visual was outstanding for the video, Ill comment this, as with 29s its never a bad idea to put bigger tyres on an off road vehicle also lighter mountain bikes the same applying to. sound and waight .My off road 4x4 and dual sport nde desert dirt bikes take extra gas .Il take TWO extra batteries .

  • @TheWebstaff
    @TheWebstaff 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Marketing team.
    We put less material in..
    And get this.
    We charge them more!!
    😂😂😂
    Oh the irony.

    • @TheWebstaff
      @TheWebstaff 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It does look a nice package though, those range extenders are a nice feature.
      Maybe in two or three years I might pick one up second hand.

  • @FINNdeischgut
    @FINNdeischgut 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pls test the Mondraker Level
    I think you will like this very much.

  • @brendansherlock6442
    @brendansherlock6442 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My hope is that the over saturation of manufacturers and the difficulties they now face, will result in mergers and acquisitions that will create unbelievably well spec'd bikes. Instead of that horrible choice between different tech platforms, buyers can choose to purchase a bike with both. The sales would sky rocket due to demand for such a desirable bike and consequently a lower RRP and both manufacturers would likely survive the industries current level of insolvencies. A win win as they say

    • @philipshepherd4203
      @philipshepherd4203 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lack of competition usually means manufacturers control the price, spec and quality...not usually in favour of the buyer!

  • @keynmusic
    @keynmusic 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video 🙌 Im relaxed 🤝

  • @PanayiotisPapadopoulos
    @PanayiotisPapadopoulos 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My Pivot Shuttle SL is a bit lighter and stronger. I usually just ride it on the lowest setting. I find it enough and it truly rocks

  • @MortgageMadeSimple
    @MortgageMadeSimple 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey Rob, which drone are you using in this video? Looks great and tracking really well!

  • @ERone43
    @ERone43 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I was shopping for Levo I thought the lightweight SL emtb’s were silly. Now that I own a Levo and never take it out of Eco, I am way more open to the 50-60 nm class, especially if you can drop 10-15 pounds off the weight.

  • @combatclifton
    @combatclifton 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m about to buy a Trek Fuel Exe with the TQ motor. But won’t be leaving it as standard. It’s good but is lacking about 200w of power. So my plan is to rip the electronics out and replace with a tuneable ESC and get around 500W from it

  • @vidibites
    @vidibites 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’d like to see a comparison Mondraker Neat vs the Whyte E-Lyte.

  • @avialboim4721
    @avialboim4721 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks really neat and promising I would really like to take it on a test drive as i m missing the nimble and light weight feeling of a regular Enduro bikes.
    The two things that are bothering me are: 1) Does it have enough power as with the normal eBikes which I have today, I'm riding very different effort level tracks (much longer and steeper).
    2) Considering the above (different effort level tracks), does these bikes have enough range - what is the range ratio to a regular 750w ebikes (with the range extender of course)?

  • @danielpatino81
    @danielpatino81 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree with a 450wh battery taking into account that 50Nm is good enough to climb faster and wont use as much battery as a full power heavy bike, would be compatible with a 650wh battery on a full power. I have my 2021 trek rail which im extremely happy with still, however im waiting for something that really call my attention on the Light weight category.

  • @ianfleischhacker6154
    @ianfleischhacker6154 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm totally not interested in (can't afford) this bike, but man, the shot that starts at about 4:28 is sooo good.

  • @karimayoubi74
    @karimayoubi74 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lovely video, Rob, where was it shot?
    On the bike itself - manufacturers need to remember we're not all millionaires. Every car I've owned (prior to my current one) cost less than £5k, and there's just no way I'm going to spend more than that on a bike. Ever. Now, OK, my cars were all 2nd hand, but a car = 2,000 kg of steel and technology, whereas a bike = just 20kg of steel and technology. There's no way a bike should cost more than my car. Ever. £10k for a bike is just ridiculous.

  • @pizza4921
    @pizza4921 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey Rob, I have been looking at the KTM E-bikes such as the prowler, which have the bosch system with 750wh battery and not a bad price and not alot of reviews, if you get a opportunity it would be nice to get a review

  • @kentnilsson9757
    @kentnilsson9757 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    👍A real nice bike😄
    I realy like my own build Specialized levo SL 35Nm with 170mm Fox Factory fork and everything in carbon so i build one extra bike. So much joy with a light weight Emtb and I have 3 pcs range extender that I never used yet😂

  • @egregor123
    @egregor123 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i am 1.78 mts height...i ordered a Medium but by mistake a Large was sent...but i think it feel its fine. Should i return it or keep it?

  • @FatguyBikingDH
    @FatguyBikingDH 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautifull video❤ and neat bike, even though I don't fancy the color of it...

  • @Jan-Cort
    @Jan-Cort 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That wildlife drone footage ❤❤❤

  • @emtbadventure
    @emtbadventure 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is it possible to power the bike with just the external battery (internal remove). Reason I ask is the external battery is within the limit of 160wh for carryon for the flight. Wish TQ start breaking there 320wh battery into 2 pieces so that we can also put in on carry-on bag in the flight.

  • @EMTBnorthyorkshiredad
    @EMTBnorthyorkshiredad 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, very professional. I have a channel which I have recently started and can only dream of pro edits like this 😂. One day maybe 🤔

  • @ohiomoto
    @ohiomoto 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have a Trek Fuel EXe with the same TQ motor it lets me ride like I'm in great shape when I'm not. It's awesome! 😂 Seriously though, I haven't had a bad ride on it yet. It never makes you suffer.

  • @1brenmaster
    @1brenmaster 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Waiting in the long grass with my analogue bikes until these things get to about half of what they are looking for now

  • @lozetchells9164
    @lozetchells9164 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting video thanks Rob. I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts on this vs the Levo SL and Heckler SL though.
    As for "why wouldn't you choose this over a regular bike?" - no reason. No reason whatsoever.

  • @Wabit01
    @Wabit01 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd love an ebike, they are so much fun to ride. Whats keeping me away right now is how difficult it'll be to buy replacement motors and batteries in 5 years time. Knowing these carbon frames will all end up in a landfill seems so wasteful, whereas my regular bike I can keep on going for many more years - provided my knee's can. I really want an ebike, but as things are, I just can't.

  • @TaradaleLions
    @TaradaleLions 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What’s the range with range extenders on soft trails climbing?

  • @SportFlow
    @SportFlow 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's funny how the concept of lightweight has changed so much in recent years. Just to be clear: 19kg for a bike is not light.

  • @elvingtonred
    @elvingtonred 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The elephant in the room? That's right, PRICE! Starts at nearly £7,000! That's the BASE SPEC!

  • @RichardWagenknecht
    @RichardWagenknecht 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Curious why you didn’t mention the Fuel Exe once? Is this better?

  • @The.JZA.
    @The.JZA. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the look of this bike but in reality I don’t think I could go from a 600 watt, 750 Wh Mondraker Crafty to a bike that has half the power and battery. I mean I’m sure I would get used to it and I’d probably get fitter but I’d be going a lot slower up the climbs which is part of the reason why I love my ebike and also my GF has a full power ebike so she would just be waiting for me all the time. I think I’ll stick with the full power bikes but I hope that the batteries will get lighter soon and I also hope that Mondraker start selling XL Mondraker Crafty Carbon in NZ because currently they only sell the carbon bikes in M/L size which means I’m stuck with alloy. Not that there’s anything wrong with alloy but carbon is just so nice.