One of the clearest videos about these boxes I've seen. You're an excellent teacher and you cover a broad area of issues that seem to come up with these boxes. In just a few minutes you answered a lot of lingering questions I still had after watching dozens of other demos. I wish there were more youtubers out there like you. That would save us all a lot of time. Keep making music and videos. Thanks!
I agree. Best one I've seen. Most videos focus on how amazing it is, but then I bought one, and I must say it's a headache, because one needs to rethink the workflow, coming from several MPCs and even an SP-1200 (check out my videos 😉). This video makes me understand what the limitations are, and how to use them to my advantage. I'm about to return it and get an MPC 500, but still on the fence (my main goal is to have a battery powered box for vacations / away from studio). Take care
Brotha MG, I bought my SP404 Friday. Found this video Saturday. Made my 1st beat (using this hardware) the same day while rewatching this video. Now, I'm 4 beats in and never looking back. Many many thanks! You saved me and others so much frustration.
Thank You so much for sharing your insight on this machine. I just found this channel and its so valuable to hear your opinion. I picked up the SP when I heard Madvilian and Donuts in HS and I learned that machine till today. I LOVE this machine and one thing I always felt bad about was that I never track out the sounds when I make beats on the SP. I usually use pattern mode, create the beat making a couple patterns, then I play that in real time to a DAW. I perform it in real time and use the FX in the box and just dump it. I play it out like a song w its own fx and then when its dumped to a DAW I dont bother to trak it i just erase the sounds on the sp and start over just dumpin ill ass beats. How u speak on the SP and how its a tool idk brah u just helped me be proud of my style a bit more. You helped me understand a bit better why i love the SP404sx for creating musical art.
fantastic video my dude. I've had my 404sx for a few months, but have barely used it since i'm so familiar with Live. You explained its features and limitations perfectly - editing samples was so confusing before - but you explained things clearly with examples in the context of both ableton and historical sampling, which finally made it click for me. I'll definitely check out your other vids - you're a great teacher!
This is a fantastic video. I’m a new 404sx owner; I never realized you can adjust the start end multiple times before truncating :) you are a terrific teacher and I can’t wait to watch more of your 404videos.
Thanks a lot that was very helpful I just brought a sp404a I just learned how to sample on it but all the problems I was running into you just showed me thanks a lot I appreciate it
I don't watch many TH-cam tutorials but you sir, should be teaching a course on this machine. Your historical references are never boring, and the comparing & contrasting are not only educational but also inspirational. Extremely well done! Just sorry I wasn't hip to you sooner. Easy Sub.
youd make a good electrical engineer, I think you might be spot-on with the "grainy sound" being the electricity properties of the circuits in the sp-404SX, also you're already an engrossing historian of beatmaking artists and hardware!
I was just randomly watching SP for four videos and came across ur channel. Crazy I have the album at home and have used that Same track. It was begging to be sampled
To trim the end of the sample faster- Hold down mark while you trigger the sample, the mark button will blink while the sample plays. Press mark in time with the desired sample end time.
First vid I found that can give me all basic operations on this machine in one go! Tnx! Will love to see some tips on metronome use with this and using it with other devices at a live gig situation, I mean if this is lowfi and not looping on a metronome, how can it sinc with other device clocks?
I'm getting one soon. I already see myself pulling my hair out of my skull trying to wrap my head around this machine. I'm coming from the MPC Ren an live back ground.
Great video! And on the note of polyphony you can have up to four mono pads triggered simultaneously or two stereo ones. It can be limiting but it's a great machine, nonetheless.
Circling back to catch everything missed before getting one for myself! I discovered that my understanding of the mark button was both right and wrong at the same time lol Let me know if you have a SP-404 playlist of your SP-404 videos. The learning curve on it is very real as it seems that repetition is mandatory lol 🎯💯🏆🌶
Your mentioning of the SP-404 Wave Converter is a real gem because I have not seen any mention of it within their own documentation after buying one! It is still available on their site too. 🤯🏆🎯💯🌟
Just to be clear...you're sort of snipping down your sample with the fine adjust by hitting the button for that over and over, right? That nibbles it down eh? Coming from Maschine, this feels like the dark ages. But that's half the fun eh? Great video! This makes way more sense! It is the best I've seen too.
Issie wizzie Out for Android now too! I always thought of it being more based on teenage engineering po 33, but yeah. This was the forerunner. It’s 404-like.
I am thinking about buying one but I only see downsides to an electribe sampler for example where you can program your samples to be in time perfectly and they are at the same price range..
guillll actually got one and sold it to get an electribe sampler.. think it will fit better into my setup.. couldnt even adjust volume on the fly or add more effects without recording over and over again :/
maybe you can use the reverse button and then adjusting the end time knob so you won't have to listen to the whole track? I saw the TH-camr, Nonjuror, do that
What do you think would be an appropriate price for one? I've seen used ones for like $350, which is less than the price of a proper controller like a Maschine,
Back in the day (1999-2008) and the forums you mentioned, were you on Future Producers? That was my baby... Created it and ran it until 08 👏 I was curious if we crossed paths there
I have 505. The sequencer seems fine on it. Aside from it being 4 tracks how exactly is it worse? Anyone with a 505 or 606 who also has used a 404 care to chime in?
Yeah the sequencer doesn't work great for loops, I record it into my korg kp3 mini or my ipad. I sample into it then I edit the samples on my computer and then load them back into the 404 so that using ableton I get all my loops perfect. Back in the 90s you didn't have the computer in the workflow so it was a real challenge to perfect beat match loops. Cheating with ableton makes it much easier, if you pre-edit your whole set in ableton and then load those matched loops every pad will be perfectly beat matched.
Craziest things missing to me, and... Only saying this because it's *almost* there... I may be wrong about some of them -- can you review my list, and confirm / point out what I missed? Thank you so much... - Can't mute pads - No metronome while resampling - No way to play pattern while resampling (other) pads on top - No "project" ... Getting a bunch of 1GB cards is probably an OK workaround - No way to save BPM (at least, per pattern) It has its strengths, of course.
Nah don't need SP404SX, machine just keeps pitch and does same thing dubbing track's. Get vinyl player, akia Mpc one sample in track and dub over track with drum kit. Remember akia Mpc is production machine. Load samples on MPC simple mini sd card and adapter for SD card. Put samples from free sites on card transfer to Mpc and got data. Want to go studio on standalone Do the same as SP404sx push play practice beat and then dub track add instruments. Ppl try to make it sound hard to add samples to MPC not even close. Make it sound backwards. Other issue ppl create is not saving as .wav file and save PC and turn into .mp3 and transfer to phone for playback at work. Work on your craft in spare time.
Hey MG awesome vid. Do you do additional processing or arrangement in ableton after you've created your inital beat on the SP? I'd imagine it would be really easy to record in all your steps of the beat (e.g. chop+kick, chop+kick+snare, chop...+hihat, etc.) and then do some cool arranging in ableton. Or would you just arrange in the SP with more resampling? I could also imagine creating the arrangement in ableton, then routing it BACK to the sp to do live effects processing and routing that back into ableton for more mixing & mastering type stuff. What are your thoughts? Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us!
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One of the clearest videos about these boxes I've seen. You're an excellent teacher and you cover a broad area of issues that seem to come up with these boxes. In just a few minutes you answered a lot of lingering questions I still had after watching dozens of other demos. I wish there were more youtubers out there like you. That would save us all a lot of time. Keep making music and videos. Thanks!
I agree. Best one I've seen. Most videos focus on how amazing it is, but then I bought one, and I must say it's a headache, because one needs to rethink the workflow, coming from several MPCs and even an SP-1200 (check out my videos 😉). This video makes me understand what the limitations are, and how to use them to my advantage. I'm about to return it and get an MPC 500, but still on the fence (my main goal is to have a battery powered box for vacations / away from studio). Take care
Brotha MG, I bought my SP404 Friday. Found this video Saturday. Made my 1st beat (using this hardware) the same day while rewatching this video. Now, I'm 4 beats in and never looking back. Many many thanks! You saved me and others so much frustration.
This video convinced me to purchase a 404. It's amazing how effortlessly you demonstrate your process.
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Thank You so much for sharing your insight on this machine. I just found this channel and its so valuable to hear your opinion. I picked up the SP when I heard Madvilian and Donuts in HS and I learned that machine till today. I LOVE this machine and one thing I always felt bad about was that I never track out the sounds when I make beats on the SP. I usually use pattern mode, create the beat making a couple patterns, then I play that in real time to a DAW. I perform it in real time and use the FX in the box and just dump it. I play it out like a song w its own fx and then when its dumped to a DAW I dont bother to trak it i just erase the sounds on the sp and start over just dumpin ill ass beats. How u speak on the SP and how its a tool idk brah u just helped me be proud of my style a bit more. You helped me understand a bit better why i love the SP404sx for creating musical art.
and bro we can build about workflow whenever. This is a great video.
5 minutes in i already know i found the right tutorial. guy knows his shit
fantastic video my dude. I've had my 404sx for a few months, but have barely used it since i'm so familiar with Live. You explained its features and limitations perfectly - editing samples was so confusing before - but you explained things clearly with examples in the context of both ableton and historical sampling, which finally made it click for me. I'll definitely check out your other vids - you're a great teacher!
Rowan's Music thank you, I appreciate it 💯
This is a fantastic video. I’m a new 404sx owner; I never realized you can adjust the start end multiple times before truncating :) you are a terrific teacher and I can’t wait to watch more of your 404videos.
Thank you
Thanks a lot that was very helpful I just brought a sp404a I just learned how to sample on it but all the problems I was running into you just showed me thanks a lot I appreciate it
Resample mode!
Best way to make your patterns.
Great video and sooo chilled at the same time. A pleasure to watch, thanks
You are an angel from the heavens.. thank you for your videos. So helpful.
Love your videos, you're one of the best teachers on here. Pseudo is pronounced sue-doe.
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Good stuff MG. Just got into the SP404 party, yeah late but whatever. Haha. Tons of sampling fun with this little box.
I don't watch many TH-cam tutorials but you sir, should be teaching a course on this machine. Your historical references are never boring, and the comparing & contrasting are not only educational but also inspirational. Extremely well done! Just sorry I wasn't hip to you sooner. Easy Sub.
Bro you do a great job presenting this information and keeping it interesting. Keep it up!
That sample sounds like that Slum joint. Love the video and thanks for the tutorial. Definitely gonna grab one of those for my studio
youd make a good electrical engineer, I think you might be spot-on with the "grainy sound" being the electricity properties of the circuits in the sp-404SX,
also you're already an engrossing historian of beatmaking artists and hardware!
Appreciate you
Fun machine. I think it's a good machine for beginners.
Asr-x coined the term resample first
Dope video !your a genius on the 404!
I was just randomly watching SP for four videos and came across ur channel. Crazy I have the album at home and have used that Same track. It was begging to be sampled
To trim the end of the sample faster- Hold down mark while you trigger the sample, the mark button will blink while the sample plays. Press mark in time with the desired sample end time.
Yep yep
First vid I found that can give me all basic operations on this machine in one go! Tnx! Will love to see some tips on metronome use with this and using it with other devices at a live gig situation, I mean if this is lowfi and not looping on a metronome, how can it sinc with other device clocks?
I'm getting one soon. I already see myself pulling my hair out of my skull trying to wrap my head around this machine. I'm coming from the MPC Ren an live back ground.
Youll love it !akai can be over kill some times you need a break i have a live , 1000, studio but the 404sx is what i enjoy using most !
great video been on the mpc200 for a while now and feel it could use a little company looking forward to useing this thanks for the insite.
No problem 🙏🙌
Great video thank you.
Great video! And on the note of polyphony you can have up to four mono pads triggered simultaneously or two stereo ones. It can be limiting but it's a great machine, nonetheless.
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Great video. Thanks.
More vids PLEASE on specifically 404sx. I have an Mpc2500 but want an sp404 for it’s beautiful effects and live performance vibe.
Now I understand what my friend was doing and y he wouldn’t teach or show me.
It be like that sometimes
Thank You :) Most helpful video so far!
i love and hate mine so much. dope video man. thanks!
MG many thanks! Upgraded my brain matter
No problem!
Circling back to catch everything missed before getting one for myself! I discovered that my understanding of the mark button was both right and wrong at the same time lol Let me know if you have a SP-404 playlist of your SP-404 videos. The learning curve on it is very real as it seems that repetition is mandatory lol 🎯💯🏆🌶
Your mentioning of the SP-404 Wave Converter is a real gem because I have not seen any mention of it within their own documentation after buying one! It is still available on their site too. 🤯🏆🎯💯🌟
Great video!
I love my SP-404SX! Great Stuff MG!
The earliest re-sample function I'm aware of is on the ASR-X. Everything is older than you think.
YO MG ! Love your videos and your music... Please tell me... MPC ONE vs SP404sx... your choice? I work with Logic ProX...
well explained !!!
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Awesome vid! So helpful!
Thanks 💯
Thank you Brother!
You’re welcome
incredible video mate
G dizzle 🙏🙏🙏
Great Vid!..... Thats its I'm getting one. Forget Maschine 3.. Im selling Mk 2!!!
Your can still get great usage from maschine mk2/3. Check out Sarah2ill
thanks. will u do more on the sp 404
Great video saludos from Mexico
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Just to be clear...you're sort of snipping down your sample with the fine adjust by hitting the button for that over and over, right? That nibbles it down eh?
Coming from Maschine, this feels like the dark ages. But that's half the fun eh?
Great video! This makes way more sense! It is the best I've seen too.
Yeah, manually trimming in increments ..very tedious indeed 😭
thank you man !!!
No problem!
Just subbed I got the sp404sx and I’m learning so much from your channel and knowledge . Question though how did you connect it to Abelton ?
Just audio in
It clears my mind MG thank you! I wonder if there's any trick that we can eliminate the click sound at the end point of a loop?
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Use the trim feature, i forget how i used to do it. I'll mess around with it this evening and get back to you.
doom used a 303?
Make your drums mono ;) Will Free up some lines/bands/whatever when resampling ;)
hello MG do you know how the push 2's resample feature works? Do you have any push 2 videos?
MG peace Allah finally cop this joint the 404A version, please make a GETTING STARTED VIDEO W/ DAW ARE THE FEATURES THE SAME FOR THE AIRA VERSION?
I think so
I’m new to beat making. Which machine should I buy?
Get an app on your phone first, Korg gadget or mpc or beatmaker 3
thank you for making me finally fall asleep....
Dope!
Thanks
Koala app for iOS is based on this machine
Issie wizzie Out for Android now too! I always thought of it being more based on teenage engineering po 33, but yeah. This was the forerunner. It’s 404-like.
I am thinking about buying one but I only see downsides to an electribe sampler for example where you can program your samples to be in time perfectly and they are at the same price range..
Yeah those are cool too, the old red on specifically
"Perfectly in time" is boring !
guillll actually got one and sold it to get an electribe sampler.. think it will fit better into my setup.. couldnt even adjust volume on the fly or add more effects without recording over and over again :/
This machine is similar to the zoom sample track st224.
awesome video, how did you get your sp 404 hooked up into your Ableton Live?
I just have the lines going to my soundcard
maybe you can use the reverse button and then adjusting the end time knob so you won't have to listen to the whole track? I saw the TH-camr, Nonjuror, do that
On some things. Especially if theres a detectable transient....others...same struggle
@@MGTheFuture That's true, with loops especially it's not super helpful
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I still can't understand why those things are so damn Expensive!
What do you think would be an appropriate price for one? I've seen used ones for like $350, which is less than the price of a proper controller like a Maschine,
@@zongzoogly4549 simple $150!/200 😀
Not more not less than a MC 303
@@BrancoArgenta My guy there are plugins that try to imitate just one of the 2 dozen effects that are on this thing that cost more than $150.
@@zongzoogly4549 I know
I'm just trying to bring the prices down
Do you use a separate camera to film the sp 404?
Yeah
Nice. Can you do a Mike & Keys beat they use to be called the Futuristics. They do production for Nipsey Hussle, his album drop today.
MG The Future thank you
Nipsey Hussle - Effortless is the one track I can't seem to figure out how it's done.
MG The Future no it didn't just his single. I found out it drops in February. The producers i preferred to are Mike & Keys or Keyz.
Mike & Keys Producers Tracks - Effortless/ Stressed Out/ Down as a great/ Clarity/ Ocean views
Back in the day (1999-2008) and the forums you mentioned, were you on Future Producers? That was my baby... Created it and ran it until 08 👏 I was curious if we crossed paths there
Rapmusic was my primary, then rapbattles, hiphopcrib, illmuzik, roc battle, FP, and a few others.
Small internet.
@@MGTheFuture FP!! What was your username? I was "mano 1". It was a ton of work... I know it helped a ton of people too, so it was worth it.
@@mano123456 either mgthefuture or dskillz
@@MGTheFuture it's always great to run into people who remember FP 🙏👋👊🔥🔥🔥
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IN MONO MODE PLEASE...I USE "DEL" FUNCTION TO PLAY DIFERENT CHOPS.WHY NOT USE THE SECUENZER...
I have 505. The sequencer seems fine on it. Aside from it being 4 tracks how exactly is it worse?
Anyone with a 505 or 606 who also has used a 404 care to chime in?
Yeah the sequencer doesn't work great for loops, I record it into my korg kp3 mini or my ipad. I sample into it then I edit the samples on my computer and then load them back into the 404 so that using ableton I get all my loops perfect. Back in the 90s you didn't have the computer in the workflow so it was a real challenge to perfect beat match loops. Cheating with ableton makes it much easier, if you pre-edit your whole set in ableton and then load those matched loops every pad will be perfectly beat matched.
@@hazyviews hahaha right? I refuse The SP404 does it all you don't need a computer!
Do I need a daw when using the sp404?
It’s standalone
@@MGTheFuture can i record music straight off vinyl to the sp404 or mp3s off my laptop and chop samples with it? It seems hard I know nothing about it
Yeah, search some for videos on it
Im trying to find out how to do this too
If you want to get the music off your 404. Yes you do sir.
Craziest things missing to me, and... Only saying this because it's *almost* there... I may be wrong about some of them -- can you review my list, and confirm / point out what I missed? Thank you so much...
- Can't mute pads
- No metronome while resampling
- No way to play pattern while resampling (other) pads on top
- No "project" ... Getting a bunch of 1GB cards is probably an OK workaround
- No way to save BPM (at least, per pattern)
It has its strengths, of course.
True indees
WATH SAMPLES NAME...PLEASE.
The DAW-less set-up I want: Akai MPC Touch, SP404SX, TR-8 drum machine, analog synth.
Nah don't need SP404SX, machine just keeps pitch and does same thing dubbing track's. Get vinyl player, akia Mpc one sample in track and dub over track with drum kit. Remember akia Mpc is production machine. Load samples on MPC simple mini sd card and adapter for SD card. Put samples from free sites on card transfer to Mpc and got data. Want to go studio on standalone Do the same as SP404sx push play practice beat and then dub track add instruments. Ppl try to make it sound hard to add samples to MPC not even close. Make it sound backwards. Other issue ppl create is not saving as .wav file and save PC and turn into .mp3 and transfer to phone for playback at work. Work on your craft in spare time.
@Troy uk to late own it for 6 months. Not that bad! Yes it's a standalone unit and just doesn't work with PC that well.
Can you use this without a laptop?
Thanks
MG The Future is there any other equipment i need to buy like sd cards? Aux?
Hey MG awesome vid. Do you do additional processing or arrangement in ableton after you've created your inital beat on the SP? I'd imagine it would be really easy to record in all your steps of the beat (e.g. chop+kick, chop+kick+snare, chop...+hihat, etc.) and then do some cool arranging in ableton. Or would you just arrange in the SP with more resampling? I could also imagine creating the arrangement in ableton, then routing it BACK to the sp to do live effects processing and routing that back into ableton for more mixing & mastering type stuff. What are your thoughts? Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us!
Awesome, thanks for the reply. Is the 90 min course available on youtube?
Why can’t I see your replies I feel like they’d all be so helpful lol
As I clicked like it hit 666, just as you said the word TABOO. I'll be staying away from any mirrors for a while.