SP-404sx Sequencer Tutorial // Better Than I Expected..

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  • SP404SX sequencer tutorial - Basic rundown of how this the 404 sequencer works. It's a bit basic, but excels in a few spots. So let's take a deep look at it.
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  • @russellwoodstechno
    @russellwoodstechno 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i tend to fall into the trap of "i don't see people using this to make the music i make" so i'm glad i saw this. the SP is making me change my approach and trying new things.

  • @soundtester
    @soundtester 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Maybe the most simple and proper tutorial with 404SX I've ever seen. Respect!

  • @LfunkeyA
    @LfunkeyA 5 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    people often suck more than their tools

  • @GeneralTarik
    @GeneralTarik 4 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Bruh! You had me at “Swing”! I’ve literally watched about a 150 videos on the SP 404 and you are the first one to even mention that there is a swing function! I picked up a SP 404A a week ago and remember reading someone say in the comments to one of the vids that there is no swing function. Thanks for the informative video man. Dope beat too!

    • @Lingatsu
      @Lingatsu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've recently buy a PO-33 and I still don't know what this function does. Thanks to point that out. This make a good reason to watch the video even though I don't have a SP-404 ahahah

    • @echoworldco
      @echoworldco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True - i've never noticed a tutorial mentioning the swing... Maybe SPVidz has covered it though.

    • @elwoodg29
      @elwoodg29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@echoworldco tons of them have

  • @aaronfarrell5446
    @aaronfarrell5446 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I think Dibiase revealed you can overcome that gated choke on the 1 if you turn on quantize when recording and then turn it off.

  • @badbenjy
    @badbenjy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Would love to see more 404 stuff. In a world of screens and waveforms, its still kicking ass.

    • @echoworldco
      @echoworldco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Much better than using a laptop, although you can translate the SP workflow to Ableton pretty easily.

  • @Hell_Inc
    @Hell_Inc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    my sundays are never complete without your vids. thank you!

  • @AT-eh2eo
    @AT-eh2eo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    people sleep on the sequencer!! the power comes when you know whats a job for resampling, and whats a job for the sequencer! together its unstoppable!

    • @R0b1zzle137
      @R0b1zzle137 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      can you elaborate? do you usually sequence drums and resample ur samples? vice versa?

    • @elib7467
      @elib7467 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      One of my favorite things to do is use resample to create microchops that can be sequenced in pattern mode! It’s time consuming but that’s how I use koala too

  • @sussvarman
    @sussvarman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ive been waiting like 2 years for a well produced sequencer tutorial holy shit. this is awesome dude. thanks a lot. can't wait to put this thing in use again!

  • @jacobcontreras9754
    @jacobcontreras9754 5 ปีที่แล้ว +244

    The sequencer doesn't suck,y'all just can't keep time.😂💀

  • @bewareofthehollowbone9759
    @bewareofthehollowbone9759 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow, what a lovely Tutorial in every aspect, the Video, the Audio and the Presentation... Keep up the good work and thanks for helping me unterstand my OG 404 a bit more

  • @str8upndown856
    @str8upndown856 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    To each his own...once you get the hang of the sequencer, its cake. It really depends on how patient you can be when creating your music and if you like the challenge of working with limited hardware. Although it has its limitations, Roland definitely created one of the most dopest, on the go sampler/sequencers with the SP's

  • @508dos2
    @508dos2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow. I was staying away from the sequencer but after seeing this workflow I'm going to give it a shot. Thanks for the vid

  • @goodpal7444
    @goodpal7444 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    You keep making me play my 404sx. Thank you. Also good to note for anyone who bought one second hand, Roland has the manual as a PDF on their website. It's not that long to read either!

    • @russellwoodstechno
      @russellwoodstechno 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      it's the BEST Roland manual i've ever read.

  • @martinwhitesell5771
    @martinwhitesell5771 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome intro! Cleared up all the questions I had about the SP404 differences right off the bat. Been thinking about upgrading my OG 404 lately, think I might just go for it already.

  • @NenJiDaPassiv
    @NenJiDaPassiv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    On resampling patterns, this weekend my friend is bringing a tape deck up for me to tinker with. I'll be modifying the dc motor to give it a speed control. This will solve to issues: I'll be able to sample tapes and modify the speed; and, I'll be able to use the tape deck as a resample device (you could imagine the interesting effects I'll get when recording onto the tape at a super slow speed). Should be an interesting experiment at the least.

    • @PoipleBabby
      @PoipleBabby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      So how did it go?

  • @Shock23BEATS
    @Shock23BEATS 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome channel! Your sp404sx videos are very clean and helpful.

  • @mariogordon4125
    @mariogordon4125 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought a 404a about a month ago. Watching several videos on here helped (a little). This video helped me a lot! I'm subscribed now & will be checking out your other vids. Thanks...

  • @I.O.M.
    @I.O.M. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ricky we need more SP404 content from you. Love your vids and a newer SP 404 user.

  • @LeeDaHitman
    @LeeDaHitman 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best beginner Sp-404sx video on youtube

  • @dbeez8317
    @dbeez8317 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hey man thanks for this been avoiding the pattern sequencer but going to give it a go .

  • @hkoxnw
    @hkoxnw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    i'm definitely busting my SP out to mess with the sequencer after watching this.

  • @1dkappe
    @1dkappe 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Appreciate the insights into different types of gear for live performance.

  • @robbalbrecht
    @robbalbrecht 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Super helpful, Ricky. Thanks!!

  • @MikkelGrumBovin
    @MikkelGrumBovin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You...make...it...seem....so....easy.... Bravo Tricky ! 🤩

  • @preppybeats
    @preppybeats 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bruh....i needed this video. I almost sold my sp 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

  • @TheCircusp
    @TheCircusp 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    i didn't know for the shuffle & the subpad, thanx

  • @T.H.W.O.T.H
    @T.H.W.O.T.H 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really look forwards to these Sunday sojourns into the sonic realm. Superb! 🐋

  • @magicspiral3323
    @magicspiral3323 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The sequencer itself really isn’t bad for what it is, rather it’s the two-step logic that Roland implements. With something as basic as transport controls, the 404 comes off as cryptic and counter intuitive. Many get used to it, but I haven’t yet. I feel a lot of Roland gear has an odd workflow attached to it, like the sequencer on the 808. I think you did a good job demystifying the 404.

  • @kiboards1830
    @kiboards1830 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gotta get a sp 303 or 555 to go with it for the sweetest work arounds 🖤 great vid

  • @bboyeducator
    @bboyeducator 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome! I just bought one and will have it in a few days. I am excited to pair it with my op1 and opz. I also got a Bose sp1 pro. Basically, my dawless set up can be in a canoe if I want - taking the same sound anywhere I want. Always love your videos. This one was especially timely for me

    • @bboyeducator
      @bboyeducator 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ps what was that secret?

  • @jacobshillingburg1372
    @jacobshillingburg1372 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dope video as always!

  • @SirMalikCobra
    @SirMalikCobra 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The sp404 A version is indeed different from the SX. Model A has a sub-mixer and processor, and comes with optimized sounds for syncing with the Roland Tr-8. Samples on the A model can be sequenced into the TR-8. Any sounds you create or upload on the SP-404A can be manipulated on the TR-8 in real time.
    The SP-404A’s interface with the TR-8 is difference between the 404SX and 404A.
    In addition, its bundled with sounds from Loopmasters. Other than that, they are similar.

    • @NikoNoxious
      @NikoNoxious 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      sorry, I believe the SX utilizes the same midi implementation. It recieves on Channel 10, coming from triggers 1 thru 11 on on TR8. Most drum machine es use same Channel. It's less proprietary than the AIRA line would want you to believe

  • @WrvrUgoThrUR
    @WrvrUgoThrUR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In the past you convinced me to buy a Novation Circuit🙏🏽 loved it. Then I bought a Maschine(then I was like ‘Logic’ Who?) that got me re-obsessed with LoFi. Then I convinced myself to sell the Circuit. Considering an SP, and-despite your great demo here, realizing I miss my Circuit. So, you’ve basically convinced me to buy a Circuit twice. I know they’re very different, but I miss my Circuit nevertheless🙏🏽

    • @shaunmadison99
      @shaunmadison99 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What attracted you to getting a circuit?

  • @sergeysinin8155
    @sergeysinin8155 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your tutorial is very informative. Thank you brother.

  • @jthorpe4droid
    @jthorpe4droid 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, like you said before know your instruments inside outside to get the most from them. It would be interesting to see the same /similar workflow on the other units. To see how they compare.

  • @metokyo4960
    @metokyo4960 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    love your channel !!!! Thanks!

  • @hypergorf6634
    @hypergorf6634 5 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Damn Ricky, ur videos are always filmic, but you went hard on the vibe today 💜

  • @hazrdus
    @hazrdus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    hell yeah! owner for a few years and def learned a few things! good looking out!

  • @rhynemusic
    @rhynemusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sick tut! Thanks!

  • @weddingvowsmanifesto3536
    @weddingvowsmanifesto3536 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks dude, you inspired me to buy a 404. yeah!

  • @YOSHIOPC
    @YOSHIOPC 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I also made a track, it was a very fun video because I was interested in sp404! Thank you

  • @Hey_russ
    @Hey_russ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is outstanding

  • @sheaholiday3019
    @sheaholiday3019 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That subpad hack is a life saver 🔥

  • @MortChud
    @MortChud 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The sequencer was a bit tricky to get the hang of but now I love it. It's my favorite sequencer to use out of all of my gear. It's very versatile in the way that you can turn quantization on and off and everything in between for each individual note. The only thing that I don't like is that all patterns share BPM across the board. That really sucks but there are workarounds. Other than that it's great.

    • @RickyTinez
      @RickyTinez  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yea super sweet. Put the kicks in and take everything else off quantization. Once the muscle memory kicks in it's pretty fast

  • @AmkuMusic
    @AmkuMusic 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could never gel with the on board sequencer too much. I usually just use resample and midi sequence the pads with a external sequencer like the Digitakt. Loving the Sp videos

  • @josemanuellucasmunoz8023
    @josemanuellucasmunoz8023 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tips!

  • @saltfeend
    @saltfeend 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    man, such a good vid.. thx

  • @JDMNOOB
    @JDMNOOB 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whoooo. Love your groove. Inspirational for sure. Gotta check you out on ig and soundcloud.

  • @flakee8856
    @flakee8856 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    needed this

    • @flakee8856
      @flakee8856 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      how do you avoid the sequencer from extending the bars? It’s mostly the reason I don’t use it... ex: I’ll set 2 bars, but then it runs to 4 bars and there’s 2 empty bars that I can’t ever play over?

  • @Atamone
    @Atamone 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    love this video

  • @TheTravelTechBear
    @TheTravelTechBear 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this - I just bought an SP-404A and hoping to spend a lot of time with it this weekend.

    • @treveenos
      @treveenos 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same. Enjoy brother

    • @willcasket_goycdyg
      @willcasket_goycdyg 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      how are y’all liking it

    • @TheTravelTechBear
      @TheTravelTechBear 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@willcasket_goycdyg I've been working on completing some other projects before I truly deep dive into it. So far, getting the gist of it.

  • @jotwicemusic2432
    @jotwicemusic2432 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    dope video!

  • @chahan2016
    @chahan2016 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    How did it get “wonky” after you added two more bars? Interesting.
    I find quantisizing only the first down beat of the first bar (and then turning quantization off) in a sequence to be useful...discovered it in the iOS app world. Tried it on the SP and voila..buttery.

  • @ablack9431
    @ablack9431 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Roland would sell out if they made a few tweaks to this machine with velocity sensitive pads being first on my wish list lol.
    Great video man thanks for the tips.

  • @mirks150
    @mirks150 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Ricky! All your vids are great quality and down to earth. Have you ever played with a Zoom sampletrack 224? It’s old and runs on smart media cards but the work flow is amazing. Nothing like it. I have an sp but I personally think the work flow of the zoom is way easier then an Sp.
    Thanks for the vids!

  • @FaOut
    @FaOut 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice.. inspiration for My music.

  • @ALTARBEATZ
    @ALTARBEATZ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice look in the Kitchen of the SP404

  • @moonsu7825
    @moonsu7825 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool video Enrique

  • @guitarerooo
    @guitarerooo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, great video! I'm looking into this thing for simple sound cues for theater performances. Does it allow you to fade as it were between two "samples/songs", also volume wise?. So far I'm using a novation pad with Ableton, but tbh. I am looking for something more simple without carrying to much around with me.

  • @davidsegaar3450
    @davidsegaar3450 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    this song is amazing, and best part is that it remembers me of another video i saw with the octatrack. Bassline is not from this planet😍

  • @JIDEHHIGHELEMENTS
    @JIDEHHIGHELEMENTS 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    greets Ricki Tinez , thx for this video inspire to go back diggin in this sampler ;actually got the old sp555, the main difference is the acceptable memory size ( something like 2GO max on some old memory flash , seems they got the same options , reason i talk about this because the sp 555 got a "phrase capture option in wich we can rec ext source or ... int source as pad or pattern , also many other options like aditional mono input & stuff, if you can get your hands on one of them sure you'll love it.

  • @3ambreakbeats977
    @3ambreakbeats977 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great vid

  • @Olivander12
    @Olivander12 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for another great video about the 404. Do you know the Korg Kaoss Pad 3? It has a great looping/resampling workflow and would nicely work together with the 404.

  • @TheCoheed88
    @TheCoheed88 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi ricky, im using the sp404 for almost 3 years now and ive diddnt know that you actually can set the swing parameters. Thanks for the tip

    • @RickyTinez
      @RickyTinez  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Blew my mind when I found that out also

  • @adriannunez8868
    @adriannunez8868 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If I’m trying to connect the SP to a synth (Microkorg) and Synth Looper (Korg Kaoss) thats running through to a Bluetooth speaker
    . Will I need more speakers or just the correct cables? I use the microkorg on a guitar amp as well. New to music but just hard with tech/wiring side of it. Thanks

  • @MrPisster
    @MrPisster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I"ve seen him mention his "secret setting" on the SP a couple times now. I can't wait to get mine and try to figure out what it is lol.

    • @samson_BNR32
      @samson_BNR32 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      compressor

    • @echoworldco
      @echoworldco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's just a simple compressor on a relatively low setting, with the kick of the beat turned up louder than usual.

  • @HatishBeats
    @HatishBeats 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You so much man

  • @messypro1
    @messypro1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice review. ! I got tired of lugging my Mpc live around , needed something light but capable.

  • @strangestrains.
    @strangestrains. 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dope!

  • @MatthewHyatt
    @MatthewHyatt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I see that orgone pyramid, dude. Nice touch.

    • @jeremygoodbread355
      @jeremygoodbread355 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for that excellent observation Mathew! Sold.

  • @kenzwa
    @kenzwa 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the inspiring vid Ricky! btw sometimes you sounds like Tony Stark talking bout tech things.. 😂

  • @kaithecreatorrr
    @kaithecreatorrr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How did you film all of these cool angles? Are you just using a tripod?

  • @MikeGomeztheDMG
    @MikeGomeztheDMG 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finally got bit by the SP bug 😝. Excited to bounce OP-Z tracks to it. Soon, soon 🤓🤓

  • @xavierrandall
    @xavierrandall 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the Boss samplers and the Roland Sp555

  • @mikegraham92
    @mikegraham92 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Are you using natural lighting in this video or are you using your Gordox? This is so aesthetically pleasing

  • @jack3361
    @jack3361 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That's a 10-4 on the 96 ppqn. This fact is listed in the specifications page of the owner's manual.

  • @That125Kid
    @That125Kid 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How about using a keyboard like the fa-06 to record your different patterns on and resample into the fa-06 midi out of the fa into the sp404sx

  • @tientienyao
    @tientienyao 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Ricky,
    I'm wondering if you had a chance to check out the latest Roland MC-101? I am a noob and it would be nice to compare MC-101 with the venerable SP-404SX/A. I have the SP-404SX but the preset sounds, fader, etc.. in MC-101 seems really attractive. Or can the two compliment each other. What do you think?

  • @SonicScholar
    @SonicScholar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does it have an MPC style 16 level equivalent or ability to tune samples without them sounding dodgy? i.e good tuning like the eSPi 1200 by Low-Hiss?

    • @SonicScholar
      @SonicScholar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MortChud Cheers 🍻

  • @laulyam3868
    @laulyam3868 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, i have an mpc 1000 and i use it with lot of samples wavs, but the internal memory is only 128mb. i´d like to know if i can play more songs lopped buying the sp 404, and can you suggest me how the connection would be. I make the songs first in the computer, then a pute them as loops in the sampler. Thank you!!

  • @zzirjukez2899
    @zzirjukez2899 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I see the Orgonite!!

  • @bartduwez8968
    @bartduwez8968 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great! what's the piano sample from?

  • @Sparks3D
    @Sparks3D 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Ricky. Great work on the track! Sounds tight! One question, have you looked at the SP-404A and does it have anything better than a SX? Thanks!

    • @RickyTinez
      @RickyTinez  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nothing better other than paint job

  • @shaunmadison99
    @shaunmadison99 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a question. Im having trouble to even get it to record. Everyone presses record and its ready, ill press record and the buttons just flash. Never becomes solid. What am I doing wrong?

  • @itchyvinyl
    @itchyvinyl 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good, clear video. Satisfied my curiosity. I'm still stuck on the MPC2000xl.

  • @charliecowan9973
    @charliecowan9973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You just sold me on one of these. The pattern length alone. I can't do the 4 bars on most sequencers, it frustrates me to no end

  • @nyingjea6837
    @nyingjea6837 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video!!! I just got one of these and I am wondering how to set it up in Ableton to record with other beats. Is there a configuration to be able to play the SP-404SX into an audio track or midi? In my settings, Ableton doesn't recognize the SP-404SX. Is there a trick to this? Thanks for the great video!! :)

  • @MrJoldroyd
    @MrJoldroyd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would you recommend the Digitrakt over the SP404A/sx?

    • @echoworldco
      @echoworldco 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I would personally. After about a year of using it regularly you can get at least 12 usable sample pads and a beat done in under an hour.

  • @user-vw8ez9zx5s
    @user-vw8ez9zx5s 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    my lovely smplr

  • @fsuchs
    @fsuchs 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    excellent vidz as usual :) i'm on market for a "snapshot" sampler wich i can resample my modular stuffs and rearange them in a listenable way... seems really capable to work this way...

  • @khasm13
    @khasm13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks bro...

  • @Decoy303
    @Decoy303 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    @rickytinez what is the difference between the Sp404a and sx?

  • @DeBanked
    @DeBanked 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You ooze style Ricky, love the sp404 also. Any new equipment you like??

    • @tmfse8875
      @tmfse8875 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did he ever reply?

  • @elijahmohr8822
    @elijahmohr8822 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How do you get the sounds onto the sd card? I’m a bit confused as to what it all originally comes with?

    • @lukee.2673
      @lukee.2673 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can transfer sounds to the card using a computer or you can record in with a 1/4 cable or RCA. I’m not sure what sounds they came with out of the factory, but you probably won’t find them on a used unit. In my experience, it just comes with stuff the previous owner made.

  • @loribolo
    @loribolo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Isn't the Circuit much more usable than this for sequencing? Except maybe for the length limits of the patters?

  • @bagoftrix
    @bagoftrix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i've owned the OG sp-404 since 2005 i believe, and just can't find a way to work with it while it feeling like a very tedious way to make beats. Not being able to copy and paste anything (without that famous fly lo trick), i miss it way more than you'd expect. I have so much respect for anyone who's a master on the OG 404, or the 303, which i suspect is just as limited in this regard?
    I love so much about the 404, and will probably never part with it, but its always an excursion rather than a go to device for me, and can't help thinking i'm still missing key info on how to master this little thing.
    Also, the SX is so much more popular, hard to find OG info only :)
    anyway, sorry about this OG 404 rant for no reason lol

  • @MikeGomeztheDMG
    @MikeGomeztheDMG 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Multiply that by a kagillion or whatever I just said 🤣🤣🤣 . Been thinkin about this for a while, thanks for a great look at it 🤘🤘

  • @benjamindemers2115
    @benjamindemers2115 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the SP allow you to record in different time signatures?

  • @user-wc5pi4cy7w
    @user-wc5pi4cy7w 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if you wanted to lengthen a pattern couldn't you just start recording on to a free pad and just rerecord the original pattern for the new desired length instead of redoing it from scratch? gotta check it when i get home and gonna update here. cheers