No, the government still has to let you know they are going to do it before they do it. They have to notify you first. Them just tresspassing on your land is illegal.
If nothing else they should have notified the local fire department incase it got away. I lived in an apartment yrs ago and the maintenance department decided to do a sewage repair outside my window about 8 am without having the utilities marked and started digging about 2 feet from my window. They broke a 3 inch gas line and ran away without even turning off the backhoe. I woke up and smelled the gas and ran out the front of the building. My friend and I walked 3 blocks down the street to a convenience store and on the way back about 1/2 hour later I walked across from the store to the firehouse where the people were sitting on benches and asked if it was safe to return home. Nobody had reported the gas leak and they rushed down there and evacuated the entire development until the utilities were cut off. They told me that gas leak was big enough that if it blew after leaking so long and the buildings were made of red brick it would have destroyed 90% of the homes within 2 miles from fallout. When the fire department got there most of the people were still sleeping in their apartments. It's always important that these people inform someone before they do something, even controlled fires incase it gets out of control.
If nothing else, I would demand they inform at least the fire department weeks ahead to be prepared, get a lawyer and force them to give notice in advance from now on.
I would 100% pursue it. The government will just do whatever they want if you dont stand up for your rights. It's your right to not have them tearing up your private property.
You are absolutely right. Your property and you should have been notified before the burn. The government is a what mine is mine and what is yours is mine😡. No respect for the landowners. Hope you get it sorted out. God’s blessings
So many comments here that you may never see this. I am a Registered Professional Forester in California. I have lived, worked, and went to college in Michigan, Indiana, Ohio, Wisconsin, and Oregon. I have not worked in Oklahoma and do not claim to know the laws and customs there. You don't seem to know what governmental agency did this or what agency controls the land. You need to know that. It makes a difference. It appears that the burn got away from them and they ran a dozer land at a flat area that just turned out to be an existing road. From that line, they tried to backfire with varying amounts of success. It does not appear that they ran vehicles to the creek for water. If it was a client of mine (or on my land), I would write a formal letter to the agency. It would specify that there was concern that there was no post fire notification or attempt to remediate damage. It also might be noticed that the dozer work opened up unwanted access to your parcel. For you, I make the following recommendation. Contact a forestry supplier such as Nelson Paint Co, or Forestry Suppliers and obtain PURPLE boundary paint. Mark trees on your line such that there is no doubt that there is a property line. This will reinforce your postings and make sure all comers know they are entering restricted property. On a final note, had positions been reversed and a fire on your land gone on to "public land", there would be hell to pay.
If anyone came on my 54 wooded acres that I live on and did anything, I would be mad as heck and would be pursuing charges and restitution for any damage, including damage to trees! Furthermore, you fought in the Marine Corps, Dutch, for our freedom and rights under the constitution, and they shouldn't get away with doing whatever they want on private property! Thank you for your service, semper fi!🇺🇸
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well.....on the other hand, if the goberment decides to do that there, would it be better to have the burden on your shoulders...it would be an ORDER in the end. $$$
@@quebecpatriot1874I guess you are the one person who would advocate for the fire services to notify you before they go onto your property and pour water on your house as it burns. Maybe your kids are left at home while you’re out grocery shopping and you forgot and left your phone at home. The house is on fire and one of your kids is missing and presumed to be trapped inside. Using your train of thought the firefighters have to get your permission to enter your property to put out the fire and to cause property damage to break down your door and go in to rescue your trapped family member. I don’t care if a fire is planned or not if it gets out of control I’m not going to fuss about the fire crews in a rush tearing down my fence to plow a fire break. It’s just not reasonable to delay entry onto a property to fight a fire to wait to do so until you can contact the land owner.
You’re 110% correct for feeling the way you do. It’s YOUR property and they SHOULD have came to you. That’s so wrong not to contact you and to damage your property.
They work for us and they have NO right to trespass in your property for ANY reason. Sue them for everything you can get. They tried to destroy it. No! I would never allow anyone especially any government agency or personnel to come on any property that I owned. This makes me so mad. Yes! Your opinion counts before everyone's.
I’m glad you are getting some answers to this mystery. No, I’m not okay with them coming onto your property without YOUR permission. It’s completely unacceptable!
There have been multiple cases where failing to contest a trespass resulted in a decision that the property owner had voluntarily granted a public easement. It's sort of the flip side of "adverse possession", if you don't defend it you eventually discover it is no longer yours.
You need to make a legal stand - if you do not - you are inviting further intrusion. You are now the man to take the stand. People here will help fund your legal fees, just say the word.
Exactly. The police are a government agency, but they can't violate your rights while doing their job. It looked like initially you were upset. Now you're easing up on them. If someone did something wrong, they should be disciplined. Maybe next time they won't do that.
@@LANEZZ-jv5okUnless your house, landscaping, or property is on fire then you should demand it. You may not like it but you would be the first to sue if your house was on fire and the fire department delayed fighting the fire until you give them permission to do so. The way Dutch showed us it appeared as a controlled burn that got out of control. It happens. I guess you would want to be notified every time your neighbor did some yard cleanup and was burning their refuse. It’s not feasible to delay fighting a fire until the land owner is notified. And any damage done should be covered by homeowners insurance. That’s why everyone should have a HO policy.
You are so right! It is your property and you pay the taxes on it. No one should be on your property with out letting you know first. I would not like anyone just come on my property with out giving us a heads up first.
You are a better human than I would be in this situation. I would have filed charges with the county and had them start an investigation. Thank you for the content.
When a controlled burn starts to burn into areas which were not planned to burn, it creates an exigent circumstance. That exigency creates a situation where they are allowed to not only come onto your property, they may perform any tasks necessary in order to control the exigent circumstance, in this case the controlled burn fire which likely began off your property.
Suggestion: find a retired Stop sign at the scrap yard or talk to the local public works (they are constantly replacing & scraping damaged signs). Mount it to a tree next to where the fire break crosses your property line, 6-8 feet high and put no trespassing and private land signs below it
You never let a government agency on your property because they will make up any reason to take it from you or not let you use it. All they have to say is they saw a spotted owl without proof of anything, and then you can't log or build.
I live in Montana and when they do controlled burns here it is on Forest Service land not on private property. Now during a forest fire emergency they will go on to private property and cut a fire break but they do their best to notify property owners.
I have a feeling that it was possibly a controlled burn that went out of bounds. That they had to get control of.. I am a former wild land firefighter with cal- fire formerly known as California department of forestry and fire protection. I have a degree in prescribed burn. I'm not 100% familiar. With your area of the country. But I know that usfs (US Forest service) does partner with land owners to do prescription burns. It's actually good for the environment. It eliminates invasive plant species and helps other plants germinate because their seeds cannot germinate without fire. And the carbon is good for the land . But what do I know. I only have 3 masters degrees one in para medicine. Masters of fire science. Forestry management and prescribed burn.
You said it right,what do you know.A degree only attests to the fact that you passed the required tests.Common sense may or not be something you are endowed,what do I know 😮
Now have more opportunity for trespassers on your property with having easy access. Need them to fix fence and I’d spray purple paint on trees around there to show private property. Love your videos
Yeah but they need to be put on notice for not asking or telling you it was happening. It is yours, they busted thru fences, uncool. If you did it to public or private land that's not yours, they'd sue or charge you with a crime....
I'm 1/6, owner of 320 acres . ( hunting club). It's fully fenced and posted. We let the person we bought the land from run a maple syrup operation on the property. He keeps the trails open and keeps a close eye out for trespassers. I would call and have them replace the fences .
The State/Federal Government CANNOT take your land under the Constitution's Taking Clause without proper compensation. 'Taking' is not just using your land for Public Use, but also accounts for the taking of your Use of the land. Not only did they trespass they damaged the land affecting how you can use the land. Reach out to the Institute of Justice as they just won a very similar case against the state of TX
They don't always compensate for eminent domain...they stole our land and ruined it. They do whatever they want to whenever they want to. And it is not OK!
Holy Cow Dutch. I’m with you. So much liability with folks just wandering through your land. I certainly hope that you will report this incident and find out why you weren’t notified prior to. Good luck and please keep us posted.
No, they should not have "notified" him. It is his property. They have no right on his property without a warrant. This is called illegal search and/or seizure.
Hi Dutch, you’re much more calm than I would be. That is just terrible that a government agency trespassed on your property and broke through two fences. It’s scary that they take such liberties. It’s dangerous too! God bless you Sean. I enjoy your videos and family! Thank you for sharing your lives with us. From Canadice NY ❤
Having lost two good friends in the wild fire in paradise. I have mixed feelings about the government doing a controlled burn but I agree you should have been informed.
Wow!! The creek was so amazing with the new camera!! I can't wait until you come up on the otter with the new camera!! The colors are extremely vibrant, too!!!
I 100% agree with you. Your ownership should be respected! You should have been notified. The destruction of your fence should absolutely be their responsibility to fix. You know if the table was turned things would most likely be a whole different thing.
No government has a right to trespass and destroy private property. You need to take legal action against then them Please do not let them get away with this Please take leg action against them Have a Bless Day, Cassie❤
If you give them an inch, they will take a mile! They should have notified you. If someone got injured on your property, it could become legal. Whatever you decide Dutch, I'll support your decision. Thanks for sharing! 👍
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Just my opinion…… it was not a controlled burn. On a controlled burn , they advise the landowner and if they do a controlled burn, a lot more of it would have been burnt. Dutch, I don’t believe they just leave a note! I believe they have to contact you in case the burn gets out of control! It is a huge deal! I agree with you! Protect your family. If you don’t, no one else will! I could go on and on.
You have to be advised when they are wanting to burn so you can make sure you have your homestead prepared if that controlled burn turns into a wildfire because it is known to happen. That is a pretty poor firebreak. I can see branches and brush able to easily cross the gap.
I think it’s very sad that people are so cruel. I agree with you 100%. I grew up with an Uncle who raised pigs for meat, cows for milk, and gardens and tobacco. You are doing well with your family. God bless you.
I think you are correct you have every right to your land and some people think they can push their own way on you . Stay strong true to yourself 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👊🏻
They would at the Very Least be Fixing my fences after all Good fences make for Good Neighbors. The Government is Seriously Overstepping Their Authority when it comes to land owners rights and the ability to grow our own food. GET A LAWYER.
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Love your videos and enjoy watching them. May the lord bless and protect you and your family and the animals. You have the right to protect your abandoned property and the government was wrong without notifying you first
You don’t work for your Government. The Government works for you. I never seen Government burn control anyone property. I seen property owners control burn.
Was it a State Agency? County? Forest Service? It is all different. The only way a fire should be on your land is if a burn get out of control, they were sloppy about this or it was a mistake. This was a mistake because there is way too much liability starting a fire on your property without permission. When you find out who exactly did this, be sure to at least send a registered letter , them follow up in person and meet with the head of the agency. They need to at least reimburse for fence damage or if access needed for fire fighting Federal land, they should put in gates, that can be locked with a combination lock. They can contact you for access or by agreement so no one who shouldnt have combination won't. Id worry about creek access from the clearing . That is going to give you issues.
Here in Texas, the weather conditions (temperature, humidity, wind speed, amount of rain fall, etc.) are so difficult to meet that controlled burns are darn near impossible to do! We had a government biologist work with us for several years, and at NO TIME did we meet the criteria to do a controlled burn.
I would first check to see if they made any public announcements like a newspaper ad, road signs, PSA on the radio, etc. if they didn’t, I’d be pretty angry. Private property rights are fundamental to our freedoms as Americans! Good luck!
No, no, no...under NO circumstances notice or not they have NO right to step foot on your property without a warrant. Let alone burn his property and bust through fences.
YES, they should have contacted him. It was a big no-no to go on his land without prior notification and a pencil necked geek needs to be reprimanded. I would never buy abandoned land that backs up to a government property without having a long polite conversation about any plans and expectations. The USDA plans these burns up to a year in advance and knowing how they work, either it was probably still listed as an abandoned property and a notice would have been sent to the previous owner's address. That being said, the USDA has a website showing all of it's scheduled burns.
Camera work looks great Dutch. I know you will do what is right about the burned land, and the property damage.And not only fences, but to tear up your gates.
I would sue them for infringements of our Bill of Rights and Constitution. This is illegal search and seizure of private property. They need a warrant. He needs a good lawyer.
@@lindahitt6825 Also signs cannot threaten (Compost, Shoot etc). He had signs "No Trespassing.” I watched him posting some on this channel. We are on your side Sean.
In Canada, the only leased land that the government can do a controlled burn, May be done on Provincial or Federal land. Being a lease tenant, I would appreciate a notification, beforehand...
I use to work for forestry & we had to have paperwork & look at property map before doing any controlled live burn & no they can't come on your properties without a emergency, they can't burn on u.
You'll Have To Go To Someone In The Government And You Will Need More Than Someone Assuming It Was Them, I Hope You Are Ready For A Fight For Your Property!
Unless the main forester was there then I'd say someone gave the ground crew the address or told them where to go into the property at,but there's no excuse for tearing down fence or going past 'no trespassing' signs without permission or it being an emergency.
I agree with you on knowing who is coming onto your property. I have had vehicles with out of state tags (mostly from CA) coming onto my property when it is posted with several signs saying it is a "DEAD END ROAD, PRIVATE DRIVEWAY, NO TRESPASSING, NO SOLICITING". I dislike looky leures.
@@Tetelestai.John19.30 I know. But the folks who took down the fence should not have assumed that is the case. If it was a single wire fence, the maybe they assumed that. If it was a 3 or 4 wire fence, making the assumption that there are no animals is risky.
Great having the controlled burn, but I agree, they 100% need to be in communication with private landowners in preparation for the field work to be done. This is a pencil-pusher problem, not the folks in the field doing the work. At a minimum they need to make it right for the destruction of your fencing/gates/signs along with a promise to do a better job of communicating.
They should have notified you. What if it had burned your camper. If they went through your fence they should be responsible for repairing it. Bobbie is a handsome Lil Fella. GOD bless y'all.
My dad in Eastern Oklahoma had it happen to him. Mail notification was mail to his separate property not where he lived so he didn’t get it. He was mad too but found out it was for fire control. Government has rights to create fire breaks and roads.
Just a suggestion... it ought to be fairly easy to install wire insulated fencing which triggers an alarm which could alert you, if it is severed, that us if you are in cell or range of maybe a neighbor's wifi
Nope, I would have been at their office the next day. It's not okay for them to bull doze through your fence that is obviously marked private property. 😡 Give an inch they take a mile. What if you had plans to build a house on the property and they totally just trashed your plans. Or they're doing a controlled burn and it gets out of hand? We just had this happen a couple weeks ago here. My friend's house burned down due to their negligence. To add to the insult they were sound asleep and woke to banging on the door. It was the police department telling them they had to evacuate immediately. No chance to get anything. The winds were blowing 30-45 miles hour with gusts to 60 miles hour. This is not okay at all. Thank You for sharing. Much love from our family to your family 💞
Take them to court for the destroying, including the burning of your personal property! That's abuse of their power in office, of citizens rights! You've got rights! Don't just let them get away with violating your rights!
Having anyone show up unannounced, especially when you aren't there, is an incredible legal issue for the land owner/tenant because you are liable if something happens to them!! Destroying your fences or any other property is definitely a problem!!
Private Property is protected by the US Constitution. When I watched this last night, I said a short prayer. The 1st TH-cam that popped up this morning is called Supreme Court Issues 9-0 permit fees. By... Facts Matter with Roman. It's a must watch about your legal right as a property owner.
I agree with you Dutch! They shouldn’t be allowed without permission. But I thought there is something about landowners not having the rights to the minerals underground. Check that out as well. Maybe it’s for certain states but I’ve been hearing that as well
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I bet it's a government hideout or future bunker location.
No, the government still has to let you know they are going to do it before they do it. They have to notify you first. Them just tresspassing on your land is illegal.
Check public notices in local newspapers. It was probably posted there
If nothing else they should have notified the local fire department incase it got away. I lived in an apartment yrs ago and the maintenance department decided to do a sewage repair outside my window about 8 am without having the utilities marked and started digging about 2 feet from my window. They broke a 3 inch gas line and ran away without even turning off the backhoe. I woke up and smelled the gas and ran out the front of the building. My friend and I walked 3 blocks down the street to a convenience store and on the way back about 1/2 hour later I walked across from the store to the firehouse where the people were sitting on benches and asked if it was safe to return home. Nobody had reported the gas leak and they rushed down there and evacuated the entire development until the utilities were cut off. They told me that gas leak was big enough that if it blew after leaking so long and the buildings were made of red brick it would have destroyed 90% of the homes within 2 miles from fallout. When the fire department got there most of the people were still sleeping in their apartments.
It's always important that these people inform someone before they do something, even controlled fires incase it gets out of control.
If nothing else, I would demand they inform at least the fire department weeks ahead to be prepared, get a lawyer and force them to give notice in advance from now on.
You are 100% correct. NO ONE has the right to trespass on your property.
He's lieing
The law is whatever the highest ranking bar member thinks it is.
I would 100% pursue it. The government will just do whatever they want if you dont stand up for your rights. It's your right to not have them tearing up your private property.
You are absolutely right. Your property and you should have been notified before the burn. The government is a what mine is mine and what is yours is mine😡. No respect for the landowners. Hope you get it sorted out. God’s blessings
So many comments here that you may never see this. I am a Registered Professional Forester in California. I have lived, worked, and went to college in Michigan, Indiana, Ohio, Wisconsin, and Oregon. I have not worked in Oklahoma and do not claim to know the laws and customs there. You don't seem to know what governmental agency did this or what agency controls the land. You need to know that. It makes a difference.
It appears that the burn got away from them and they ran a dozer land at a flat area that just turned out to be an existing road. From that line, they tried to backfire with varying amounts of success. It does not appear that they ran vehicles to the creek for water.
If it was a client of mine (or on my land), I would write a formal letter to the agency. It would specify that there was concern that there was no post fire notification or attempt to remediate damage. It also might be noticed that the dozer work opened up unwanted access to your parcel.
For you, I make the following recommendation. Contact a forestry supplier such as Nelson Paint Co, or Forestry Suppliers and obtain PURPLE boundary paint. Mark trees on your line such that there is no doubt that there is a property line. This will reinforce your postings and make sure all comers know they are entering restricted property.
On a final note, had positions been reversed and a fire on your land gone on to "public land", there would be hell to pay.
If anyone came on my 54 wooded acres that I live on and did anything, I would be mad as heck and would be pursuing charges and restitution for any damage, including damage to trees! Furthermore, you fought in the Marine Corps, Dutch, for our freedom and rights under the constitution, and they shouldn't get away with doing whatever they want on private property! Thank you for your service, semper fi!🇺🇸
Don't hold back!!! Don't let the government get away with anything! Sue the crap out of them!!
🤬🤬🤬 NO, NO, NO RIGHT TO DO THAT ON PRIVATE LAND. JUST LIKE RONALD REAGAN SAID,"THE SCARIEST WORDS YOU WILL EVER HEAR FROM THE GOVERNMENT IS WE ARE HERE TO HELP!"🤬🤠
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The Government has no right to trespass on private property to bulldoze or do anything unannounced.
Your property and your rights have been violated. Someone should be held accountable for this totally inappropriate action.
well.....on the other hand, if the goberment decides to do that there, would it be better to have the burden on your shoulders...it would be an ORDER in the end. $$$
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5th amendment provides for this and they will have right to make a claim for compensation for the damages
@@quebecpatriot1874I guess you are the one person who would advocate for the fire services to notify you before they go onto your property and pour water on your house as it burns. Maybe your kids are left at home while you’re out grocery shopping and you forgot and left your phone at home. The house is on fire and one of your kids is missing and presumed to be trapped inside. Using your train of thought the firefighters have to get your permission to enter your property to put out the fire and to cause property damage to break down your door and go in to rescue your trapped family member. I don’t care if a fire is planned or not if it gets out of control I’m not going to fuss about the fire crews in a rush tearing down my fence to plow a fire break. It’s just not reasonable to delay entry onto a property to fight a fire to wait to do so until you can contact the land owner.
@@warriorwoodworking5136 I don't know why that last comment didn't pop up as a reply to yours, but it was, it was a reply to your goofy what ifs
You’re 110% correct for feeling the way you do. It’s YOUR property and they SHOULD have came to you. That’s so wrong not to contact you and to damage your property.
They work for us and they have NO right to trespass in your property for ANY reason. Sue them for everything you can get. They tried to destroy it. No! I would never allow anyone especially any government agency or personnel to come on any property that I owned. This makes me so mad. Yes! Your opinion counts before everyone's.
Sue them just to keep them out (if not for financial benefit) just too keep them honest and off your property without permission
Sue them because they didn't ASK first!
Nope! We are their slaves!!!!! The elites that run and rule over everything on this green earth own it all!!!!!!!
I’m glad you are getting some answers to this mystery.
No, I’m not okay with them coming onto your property without YOUR permission. It’s completely unacceptable!
They have a right to fight the fire.
There have been multiple cases where failing to contest a trespass resulted in a decision that the property owner had voluntarily granted a public easement. It's sort of the flip side of "adverse possession", if you don't defend it you eventually discover it is no longer yours.
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You need to make a legal stand - if you do not - you are inviting further intrusion. You are now the man to take the stand. People here will help fund your legal fees, just say the word.
Exactly. The police are a government agency, but they can't violate your rights while doing their job. It looked like initially you were upset. Now you're easing up on them. If someone did something wrong, they should be disciplined. Maybe next time they won't do that.
I agree. Stand up for what’s right.
Also, if he doesn't take a stand the next time it will be some poor slob that doesn't have the means to fight them.
@rondiferrin3266----I agree!
@@LANEZZ-jv5okUnless your house, landscaping, or property is on fire then you should demand it. You may not like it but you would be the first to sue if your house was on fire and the fire department delayed fighting the fire until you give them permission to do so. The way Dutch showed us it appeared as a controlled burn that got out of control. It happens. I guess you would want to be notified every time your neighbor did some yard cleanup and was burning their refuse. It’s not feasible to delay fighting a fire until the land owner is notified. And any damage done should be covered by homeowners insurance. That’s why everyone should have a HO policy.
You are so right! It is your property and you pay the taxes on it. No one should be on your property with out letting you know first. I would not like anyone just come on my property with out giving us a heads up first.
Don't let it go. Charge them for your time to repair the fence, and also make a complaint for trespassing and unlawful damage to your property.
And make sure it's outrageous government rate$$$$
Stop the intruders, it is illegal stop them ! Government has no power to do it!!.,
A control burn?? Burn line? What in the world is going on on? Damage property control burn?
It is your land!
Try deducting the cost from your property taxes and see if they like that!
You are a better human than I would be in this situation. I would have filed charges with the county and had them start an investigation. Thank you for the content.
Don’t assume! Find out by going to the agencies and get the facts.
When a controlled burn starts to burn into areas which were not planned to burn, it creates an exigent circumstance. That exigency creates a situation where they are allowed to not only come onto your property, they may perform any tasks necessary in order to control the exigent circumstance, in this case the controlled burn fire which likely began off your property.
" Controlled Burn" is "controlled in Kansas". Not like this!
@@cynsnprairie8980that makes no sense grammatically
If they started the fire and it burned private property they owe damaged. I sell my lumber so they’d owe me for the loss of income.
Suggestion: find a retired Stop sign at the scrap yard or talk to the local public works (they are constantly replacing & scraping damaged signs). Mount it to a tree next to where the fire break crosses your property line, 6-8 feet high and put no trespassing and private land signs below it
I hope you all get the notification of future control burns 😊! Glad you talked to your neighbor😊! Thanks for the update, be careful 😊! God Bless🙏🏻🤗💕!
Once they do something without accountability,they'll keep doing it
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You never let a government agency on your property because they will make up any reason to take it from you or not let you use it. All they have to say is they saw a spotted owl without proof of anything, and then you can't log or build.
Since when is it the government’s place to Control Burn private property. I would think burning is the Private Owner’s responsibility. 😊🙏🏼
Hmmm, something isn’t adding up. I think he’s playing “I don’t know what’s going on” for clicks $$$.
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That's what I've always thought..it's the owners responsibility
Where I live the DNR does controlled burns.
I live in Montana and when they do controlled burns here it is on Forest Service land not on private property. Now during a forest fire emergency they will go on to private property and cut a fire break but they do their best to notify property owners.
Sounds like you need to get Legal Representation ASAP. When you have the Corrupt Department of Justice NOT following the Law, this is going to happen.
I have a feeling that it was possibly a controlled burn that went out of bounds. That they had to get control of.. I am a former wild land firefighter with cal- fire formerly known as California department of forestry and fire protection. I have a degree in prescribed burn. I'm not 100% familiar. With your area of the country. But I know that usfs (US Forest service) does partner with land owners to do prescription burns. It's actually good for the environment. It eliminates invasive plant species and helps other plants germinate because their seeds cannot germinate without fire. And the carbon is good for the land . But what do I know. I only have 3 masters degrees one in para medicine. Masters of fire science. Forestry management and prescribed burn.
Overachiever! 😅
Spoken like a true government worker
You said it right,what do you know.A degree only attests to the fact that you passed the required tests.Common sense may or not be something you are endowed,what do I know 😮
The main thing I’d be mad about is bulldozing through my fences! They owe you! I’d at least pursue that much!
Now have more opportunity for trespassers on your property with having easy access. Need them to fix fence and I’d spray purple paint on trees around there to show private property. Love your videos
I am one who happened on your previous video and subbed immediately. Appreciate your channel and it's content. My family and I will continue to watch!
I agree with you on that. They should have informed you they were going to do a controlled burn. What if you had been out there on foot
Yeah but they need to be put on notice for not asking or telling you it was happening. It is yours, they busted thru fences, uncool. If you did it to public or private land that's not yours, they'd sue or charge you with a crime....
Hope he doesn't have to fight eminent domain and lose half of it
He won’t fight them. He said he wants to be notified and also fix the fence.
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Glad they didn't burn down any structure stay safe and well 💕
The government is overstepping there authority
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As usual.
Exactly.. what can we do?
@@tammymcguire4991 sue them. They will pay out probably more then expected. They destroyed private property. Absolutely unacceptable
I'm 1/6, owner of 320 acres . ( hunting club). It's fully fenced and posted. We let the person we bought the land from run a maple syrup operation on the property. He keeps the trails open and keeps a close eye out for trespassers. I would call and have them replace the fences .
The State/Federal Government CANNOT take your land under the Constitution's Taking Clause without proper compensation. 'Taking' is not just using your land for Public Use, but also accounts for the taking of your Use of the land.
Not only did they trespass they damaged the land affecting how you can use the land. Reach out to the Institute of Justice as they just won a very similar case against the state of TX
They don't always compensate for eminent domain...they stole our land and ruined it. They do whatever they want to whenever they want to. And it is not OK!
I love the Institute For Justice. That would be awesome if they helped. He's gonna need it..
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I would definitely let them know that it's not okay to do that and that you should be notified 24 hours in advance good luck
Holy Cow Dutch. I’m with you. So much liability with folks just wandering through your land. I certainly hope that you will report this incident and find out why you weren’t notified prior to. Good luck and please keep us posted.
Take Legal Action! They need to held accountable! They take one right at a time! Take a Stand!
They should have notified you.
No, they should not have "notified" him. It is his property. They have no right on his property without a warrant. This is called illegal search and/or seizure.
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Hi Dutch, you’re much more calm than I would be. That is just terrible that a government agency trespassed on your property and broke through two fences. It’s scary that they take such liberties. It’s dangerous too! God bless you Sean. I enjoy your videos and family! Thank you for sharing your lives with us. From Canadice NY ❤
I would definitely contact an attorney to find out the right they may have, or think they have. Doing nothing just invites further intrusions.
Having lost two good friends in the wild fire in paradise. I have mixed feelings about the government doing a controlled burn but I agree you should have been informed.
Its tresspassing and arson and destruction of personal private property
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Wow!! The creek was so amazing with the new camera!! I can't wait until you come up on the otter with the new camera!! The colors are extremely vibrant, too!!!
I 100% agree with you. Your ownership should be respected! You should have been notified. The destruction of your fence should absolutely be their responsibility to fix. You know if the table was turned things would most likely be a whole different thing.
No government has a right to trespass and destroy private property.
You need to take legal action against then them
Please do not let them get away with this
Please take leg action against them
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If you give them an inch, they will take a mile! They should have notified you. If someone got injured on your property, it could become legal. Whatever you decide Dutch, I'll support your decision. Thanks for sharing! 👍
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@@angelpony1657 you need to reply directly to Dutch not the comments other people made. Thanks
Dutch man I feel the same way just shouldn’t be able to come on your property without at least notifying you man keep up the good work. God bless.
Just my opinion…… it was not a controlled burn. On a controlled burn , they advise the landowner and if they do a controlled burn, a lot more of it would have been burnt. Dutch, I don’t believe they just leave a note! I believe they have to contact you in case the burn gets out of control! It is a huge deal! I agree with you! Protect your family. If you don’t, no one else will! I could go on and on.
Probably setting permiters for their tanks and such when the real take down comes.
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You have to be advised when they are wanting to burn so you can make sure you have your homestead prepared if that controlled burn turns into a wildfire because it is known to happen. That is a pretty poor firebreak. I can see branches and brush able to easily cross the gap.
I think it’s very sad that people are so cruel. I agree with you 100%. I grew up with an Uncle who raised pigs for meat, cows for milk, and gardens and tobacco. You are doing well with your family. God bless you.
I think you are correct you have every right to your land and some people think they can push their own way on you . Stay strong true to yourself 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👊🏻
They would at the Very Least be Fixing my fences after all Good fences make for Good Neighbors. The Government is Seriously Overstepping Their Authority when it comes to land owners rights and the ability to grow our own food. GET A LAWYER.
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Love your videos and enjoy watching them. May the lord bless and protect you and your family and the animals. You have the right to protect your abandoned property and the government was wrong without notifying you first
You don’t work for your Government. The Government works for you. I never seen Government burn control anyone property. I seen property owners control burn.
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Dutch you are 100 percent right!
Private property... ahhhh.. ARSON... ACCOUNTABILITY. PRIVATE PROPERTY, POSTED WITH A FENCE. NO!!!
Was it a State Agency? County? Forest Service? It is all different. The only way a fire should be on your land is if a burn get out of control, they were sloppy about this or it was a mistake. This was a mistake because there is way too much liability starting a fire on your property without permission. When you find out who exactly did this, be sure to at least send a registered letter , them follow up in person and meet with the head of the agency. They need to at least reimburse for fence damage or if access needed for fire fighting Federal land, they should put in gates, that can be locked with a combination lock. They can contact you for access or by agreement so no one who shouldnt have combination won't. Id worry about creek access from the clearing . That is going to give you issues.
It is still a rumor.. You do not know who or why.. Still not sure if the fire got out if control..
Here in Texas, the weather conditions (temperature, humidity, wind speed, amount of rain fall, etc.) are so difficult to meet that controlled burns are darn near impossible to do! We had a government biologist work with us for several years, and at NO TIME did we meet the criteria to do a controlled burn.
You need to let them know you’re not happy with the situation and the damages caused.
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I would first check to see if they made any public announcements like a newspaper ad, road signs, PSA on the radio, etc. if they didn’t, I’d be pretty angry. Private property rights are fundamental to our freedoms as Americans! Good luck!
No, no, no...under NO circumstances notice or not they have NO right to step foot on your property without a warrant. Let alone burn his property and bust through fences.
YES, they should have contacted him. It was a big no-no to go on his land without prior notification and a pencil necked geek needs to be reprimanded. I would never buy abandoned land that backs up to a government property without having a long polite conversation about any plans and expectations. The USDA plans these burns up to a year in advance and knowing how they work, either it was probably still listed as an abandoned property and a notice would have been sent to the previous owner's address. That being said, the USDA has a website showing all of it's scheduled burns.
Camera work looks great Dutch. I know you will do what is right about the burned land, and the property damage.And not only fences, but to tear up your gates.
I’d definitely sue them for damages
I would sue them for infringements of our Bill of Rights and Constitution. This is illegal search and seizure of private property. They need a warrant. He needs a good lawyer.
Such beautiful healthy looking animals!❤
If I were you, I would get me some no trespassing signs that say trespassers will be composted.
Dutch did have signs. A bulldozer even ran over one.
I get it...those trees love it.😊
@@lindahitt6825 Also signs cannot threaten (Compost, Shoot etc). He had signs "No Trespassing.” I watched him posting some on this channel. We are on your side Sean.
@@leonardpratt9530calm down y'all be butt hurt about somebody else life
Reminds me of that old movie,
I think it’s called, ‘Hotel He**’???
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That peacock is courting the chicken 😂
You absolutely cannot be too careful these days. Any agency, govt or not should contact you if needing to access your property.
Dutch I sure don't blame you for being upset over the fire.
Agree with you 100%‼️‼️ about government coming without notice or permission.
In Canada, the only leased land that the government can do a controlled burn, May be done on Provincial or Federal land. Being a lease tenant, I would appreciate a notification, beforehand...
I use to work for forestry & we had to have paperwork & look at property map before doing any controlled live burn & no they can't come on your properties without a emergency, they can't burn on u.
You'll Have To Go To Someone In The Government And You Will Need More Than Someone Assuming It Was Them, I Hope You Are Ready For A Fight For Your Property!
Unless the main forester was there then I'd say someone gave the ground crew the address or told them where to go into the property at,but there's no excuse for tearing down fence or going past 'no trespassing' signs without permission or it being an emergency.
Beautiful clarity, in color & sound!❤🎉❤🎉
Sounds like a lawsuit! The government needs to be put in their place and teach them they can’t trespass!
I agree with you on knowing who is coming onto your property. I have had vehicles with out of state tags (mostly from CA) coming onto my property when it is posted with several signs saying it is a "DEAD END ROAD, PRIVATE DRIVEWAY, NO TRESPASSING, NO SOLICITING". I dislike looky leures.
As they took down your fence, if you had livestock escape, they possibly could be held responsible if they were injured or not recovered.
Are injured somebody out on the roadway
Dutch and Brandi do not have any animals at the Creek Property.
Oklahoma had screwy livestock laws and fence laws.
@@Tetelestai.John19.30 I know. But the folks who took down the fence should not have assumed that is the case. If it was a single wire fence, the maybe they assumed that. If it was a 3 or 4 wire fence, making the assumption that there are no animals is risky.
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Great having the controlled burn, but I agree, they 100% need to be in communication with private landowners in preparation for the field work to be done. This is a pencil-pusher problem, not the folks in the field doing the work. At a minimum they need to make it right for the destruction of your fencing/gates/signs along with a promise to do a better job of communicating.
They should have notified you. What if it had burned your camper. If they went through your fence they should be responsible for repairing it. Bobbie is a handsome Lil Fella. GOD bless y'all.
When they do controlled burns here, they send letters to all the property owners 30 days in advance, and also place a notice in the local newspaper.
You can force them to fix the fences
My dad in Eastern Oklahoma had it happen to him. Mail notification was mail to his separate property not where he lived so he didn’t get it. He was mad too but found out it was for fire control. Government has rights to create fire breaks and roads.
The picture is clear and beautiful Dutch
The picture is great! Real clear, sharp.
I was going to say that’s what it looked like the other day. They do them all the time around here. You’re right they should have informed you.
Just a suggestion... it ought to be fairly easy to install wire insulated fencing which triggers an alarm which could alert you, if it is severed, that us if you are in cell or range of maybe a neighbor's wifi
Look into purple paint laws. You can paint some trees and mark them as private property. You now have a road anyone can use to access your property
Totally agree with you. Notification should be required.
You are absolutely correct concerning your property.
Nope, I would have been at their office the next day. It's not okay for them to bull doze through your fence that is obviously marked private property. 😡 Give an inch they take a mile. What if you had plans to build a house on the property and they totally just trashed your plans. Or they're doing a controlled burn and it gets out of hand? We just had this happen a couple weeks ago here. My friend's house burned down due to their negligence. To add to the insult they were sound asleep and woke to banging on the door. It was the police department telling them they had to evacuate immediately. No chance to get anything. The winds were blowing 30-45 miles hour with gusts to 60 miles hour. This is not okay at all. Thank You for sharing. Much love from our family to your family 💞
The new camera looks and sounds great.
Take them to court for the destroying, including the burning of your personal property! That's abuse of their power in office, of citizens rights! You've got rights! Don't just let them get away with violating your rights!
Having anyone show up unannounced, especially when you aren't there, is an incredible legal issue for the land owner/tenant because you are liable if something happens to them!! Destroying your fences or any other property is definitely a problem!!
Private Property is protected by the US Constitution. When I watched this last night, I said a short prayer. The 1st TH-cam that popped up this morning is called Supreme Court Issues 9-0 permit fees. By... Facts Matter with Roman. It's a must watch about your legal right as a property owner.
I agree with you Dutch! They shouldn’t be allowed without permission. But I thought there is something about landowners not having the rights to the minerals underground. Check that out as well. Maybe it’s for certain states but I’ve been hearing that as well
The picture is very clear and brighter.❤
I wouldn't be as worried about them burning but bulldozing down fences is not acceptable
you are so lucky that you have friends that can look out for you and find things out