After 9 months in this hobby I've noticed something about battery chargers. There is no last battery charger. When you get enough batteries, you either spend all day charging them on one charger, or you buy several chargers. The people saying a single channel charger should be your first charger.... wrong. Why limit yourself to a single channel charger? You're going to end up getting more batteries than you can charge on a single channel charger at once. You're also going to end up with different size batteries, so get a duel channel charger every time you buy a charger. That's just my opinion on chargers. I feel like I wasted money on a single channel charger. It works, but for about the same price I could have bought a duel channel charger, which is just 2 different chargers in the same box. Charging my 450, 520, 650, 850, 1100, 1300 and 1500mah batteries would go a hell of a lot faster if I had of bought a duel channel charger. This charger would work for that I suppose.
I have had this charger for a few months now. This is the first review that I have seen on it. I totally agree that it is probably the best charger that has been released lately. Independent controls are great but a bit "touchy". Love your channel, you are really ahead of the game and I have made many decisions based on your reviews, keep up the great reviews.
Thanks for your help! I always watch your channel with my dad. I was confused on how to set up 6s battery charge settings. Watching your review on this product helped solved two of my questions 1. Regarding the battery and 2 about the product. Thank you brother !
Not into the drone scene but looking for a good RC car charger and I think you cover this off well. The balance charge rate is important, this little unit has a balance charge of 1000mA which will help speed up final charging of the battery as learned in other reviews. I would say this is a beast of a charger for those looking to get started, particularly is you are hunting on Australian hobby sites. Many claim to have a big watt output but the balance charge is so so..
looking good but ... i dont really see how it's better than HOBBYMATE. the HOBBYMATE D6 Duo Pro is more compact, weigh 250g less. same output ... and cost 50$ less ( depends where you getting it from )
Has more features and newer design / better navigation / servo tester / motor tester / larger screen and just overall nicer. It's about a year newer design also much more features than the D6.
Do you find the pc software for this? And is it possible to charge a LiFePO4 (with internal BMS) with more than 0.2A i think it dont get more than 0.2A because i cannot add the balancer
for me the ISDT P30 is the only one out there as it does 1500W. and the P30 delivers a charging current range from 30A to 50A....i fly big 700 helis so this 300w charger would be too slow for me. I would not be interested in the motor or servo test function either. The only problem i have with ISDT chargers is they claim you can update over bluetooth on your phone...well its best not chance it, many have like me and made a brick out of the charger, so always connect using usb to computer for firmware upgrade.
Been having trouble with this charger when trying to charge using DC input from my jeep. As the charging amps go up, the charging input voltage drops until it hits 11.9v and the charger stops charging and flashes a low input voltage warning. The thing is I know the input voltage has NOT dropped. I have independently tested the voltage while the charger was on and it never dropped below 12.3v. With the engine running it never got below 13.2v. I have also double and triple checked by attempting to use the charger in 2 other vehicles, with no luck. For whatever reason, the charger is reading a lower input voltage than there actually is, while charging. I can only charge one battery at a time, or at less than 8 amps total. The other thing is that for the first couple months it was not like this. I could charge at a full 16 amps on one port, 6 amps on the other port, and my phone charging wirelessly on top, all without the engine running and without issue. This problem started just a few days ago so I exchanged the charger and the new charger is doing it as well.
You might have developed a short/resistance in the cable your using to connect the charger to your car battery. Try verifying the voltage under load at the input point on the charger.
Awesome. Seems it can be my next charger. Question about fan - how loud it is? Any idea which fan it use? Have an idea to replace stock fan to similar but quieter computer fan.
I´m having problems with the discharge. I don´t have the external discharge unit just UP6+. The discharge is about 0.3 A and it take forever. Anyone with the same problem?
Hey, question from a noob: I am building my first FPV and really like the night vision of the Caddx Ratel cam. However I also really want a built in DVR like the HD cam had on one of your last build videos. Is there an option to combine both of those features somehow? thanks!
I bought this chargeer since you said is could kill a lipo battery. It doesn't seem to have any feature to drain lipos down to 0v. Watched is again and maby you where just kidding. I have alot of swollen lipos I need to drain to 0v. Can't find any safe way to do it.
If you have swollen lipos... cut the connectors off them and put them in a bucket of very salty water. They will discharge and be safe to throw away. Or take them to batteries plus.
@@dronecamps Hey my friend because of you I bought the DUO T 240 charger touch screen. I'm still very happy with it. Do you still use your Duo ? Keith Kuhn
Has more features and newer design / better navigation / servo tester / motor tester / larger screen and just overall nicer. It's about a year newer design also. Much better.
Not necessarily recommended but you can charge with caution LiPo's w/o the balance lead using the NiMH setting until it gets to 3v per cell. After that, switch back to LiPo and charge as normal. Keep an eye on it while it's charging, particularly when using the NiMH setting as this is kind of a work around which isn't recommended by the manufacturer. But it works.
You can pull up "dead" cell voltage with any laboratory DC power supply with current limiter. Charge cell with 100 mA current to 3.2V (it will happen quite fast). Then let battery to charge as usual. However results may vary. "Dead" cells often are already degraded so during use they will sag very fast, rendering all battery unusable.
Hey man, this is a weird question. But do you have a video of you flying a whoop in a dome house? If so, I'm trying to find it again, but I'm having trouble. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!
Got a Hota D6 Pro from Banggood and when turned on I just get the message "CH1 Self-check failed! (E108)". Troubleshooting I did: firmware update or hard reboot, but problem continued. Not happy! UPDATE - reported the issue to HOTA, sent emails several times for any news, and they only kept replying "sorry to hear that" and did nothing - reported the issue to Banggood, and after sending the unit back was fully refunded - now I have an ISDT D2
I'm waiting for a multiport 1s charger that can do storage charge too but I have to have it test internal resistance also because it's important to know the condition of the battery and how well one brand of battery maker performs compared to other.
Does it have the fan running continuously as soon as you turn it on like the HOTA does ? It's the only thing that annoys me on the HOTA. The small ISDTs only turn the fan when needed.
Great review. Seriously thinking about pulling the trigger on this unit. I need a dual-port for charging RC truck batteries and I like the higher W when using DC (which I will, 24V 400W ps). Question for you, can you change the W's per channel? eg, set channel 1 to 200W and Channel 2 to 400W if I wanted to charge a few batteries on my parallel board?
@@dronecamps Great, thank you for the reply. It's either between this one or the ISDT P30. I do like the ability to do Syncro parallel charging on the ISDT.
Thank you for the video. I am new in this hobby so my question may be silly but I am wondering how you charge the smaller batteries, such as 1S-2S,etc, with smaller battery and balance connectors. Does the charger come with any adapter for smaller batteries. the second question is that does the vendor provide any update to the firmware. Please advise.
Get parallel charging board with XT60 connector. It will allow you to charge anything from 2S to 6S. 1S batteries however are like 1 cell in larger battery. You can charge them in bulk, connected in series. Connect connections between cells to appropriate balance connector pins. For safety reasons though charge only the same capacity batteries at once.
@@KrotowX Wasn't aware of the parallel charging board. Balance connections for 1S batteries is still little bit confusing but I will search for a video. Thank you.
After 9 months in this hobby I've noticed something about battery chargers. There is no last battery charger. When you get enough batteries, you either spend all day charging them on one charger, or you buy several chargers. The people saying a single channel charger should be your first charger.... wrong. Why limit yourself to a single channel charger? You're going to end up getting more batteries than you can charge on a single channel charger at once. You're also going to end up with different size batteries, so get a duel channel charger every time you buy a charger. That's just my opinion on chargers. I feel like I wasted money on a single channel charger. It works, but for about the same price I could have bought a duel channel charger, which is just 2 different chargers in the same box. Charging my 450, 520, 650, 850, 1100, 1300 and 1500mah batteries would go a hell of a lot faster if I had of bought a duel channel charger. This charger would work for that I suppose.
I agree 100%
I have had this charger for a few months now. This is the first review that I have seen on it. I totally agree that it is probably the best charger that has been released lately. Independent controls are great but a bit "touchy". Love your channel, you are really ahead of the game and I have made many decisions based on your reviews, keep up the great reviews.
Thanks for your help! I always watch your channel with my dad. I was confused on how to set up 6s battery charge settings. Watching your review on this product helped solved two of my questions 1. Regarding the battery and 2 about the product. Thank you brother !
Voltcraft V-Charge 600 DUO = Ultra Power UP6+
Not into the drone scene but looking for a good RC car charger and I think you cover this off well. The balance charge rate is important, this little unit has a balance charge of 1000mA which will help speed up final charging of the battery as learned in other reviews. I would say this is a beast of a charger for those looking to get started, particularly is you are hunting on Australian hobby sites. Many claim to have a big watt output but the balance charge is so so..
This charger does not have a balance charge mode.
Haha you had a video last month claiming the same thing😂😂
looking good but ... i dont really see how it's better than HOBBYMATE. the HOBBYMATE D6 Duo Pro is more compact, weigh 250g less. same output ... and cost 50$ less ( depends where you getting it from )
Has more features and newer design / better navigation / servo tester / motor tester / larger screen and just overall nicer. It's about a year newer design also much more features than the D6.
Well there’s also check the internal resistance of the battery?
Wow finally a charger with a ac/dc power instead of a separate power brick
A charger with AC/DC power was available at least for 6 years already. Bought my SkyRC D100 at May 2016.
Do you find the pc software for this?
And is it possible to charge a LiFePO4 (with internal BMS) with more than 0.2A i think it dont get more than 0.2A because i cannot add the balancer
I charge in the field with a large 6S and buck converter set to 17v out, it seems to last forever.
Nice charger! Its nice how connectors are on front and more compact than a Hota d6 "plus".However d6 plus is 50 USD less and same specs.
Exactly, and that $50 you saved could have been used to buy another charger on top of that.
The Hota / hobby mate also has a higher “balance rate” at 1.5 this is only 1…
@@robaxelsson530 this exactly. That will actually make balance charging quite a bit faster saving you time on every battery you charge.
Which HOTA are you talking about?
Can this work as Pover Suply? Like Loolkit RC chargers?
for me the ISDT P30 is the only one out there as it does 1500W. and the P30 delivers a charging current range from 30A to 50A....i fly big 700 helis so this 300w charger would be too slow for me. I would not be interested in the motor or servo test function either. The only problem i have with ISDT chargers is they claim you can update over bluetooth on your phone...well its best not chance it, many have like me and made a brick out of the charger, so always connect using usb to computer for firmware upgrade.
Does it give Internal Resistance of each cell?
Been having trouble with this charger when trying to charge using DC input from my jeep. As the charging amps go up, the charging input voltage drops until it hits 11.9v and the charger stops charging and flashes a low input voltage warning.
The thing is I know the input voltage has NOT dropped. I have independently tested the voltage while the charger was on and it never dropped below 12.3v. With the engine running it never got below 13.2v. I have also double and triple checked by attempting to use the charger in 2 other vehicles, with no luck.
For whatever reason, the charger is reading a lower input voltage than there actually is, while charging. I can only charge one battery at a time, or at less than 8 amps total.
The other thing is that for the first couple months it was not like this. I could charge at a full 16 amps on one port, 6 amps on the other port, and my phone charging wirelessly on top, all without the engine running and without issue.
This problem started just a few days ago so I exchanged the charger and the new charger is doing it as well.
You might have developed
a short/resistance in the cable your using to connect the charger to your car battery. Try verifying the voltage under load at the input point on the charger.
Awesome. Seems it can be my next charger. Question about fan - how loud it is? Any idea which fan it use? Have an idea to replace stock fan to similar but quieter computer fan.
Hi everyone,
Do you know what kind of balancing connector does the charger have? is it JST-XH? thanks in advance!
Yep!
I tried to find a balance connector but no luck
Does this allow you see the IR of each cell?
Yes
Does it balance charge? I didn't see that like other chargers I have had .. ? Great Review
Yes
I´m having problems with the discharge. I don´t have the external discharge unit just UP6+. The discharge is about 0.3 A and it take forever. Anyone with the same problem?
1.8A and that thing is running the fan already. Bummer.
hello, you know a duo charger that has include (permanently installed) ec5 plug?
Looks really good.
It is!
thanks for showing us
ULTRA POWER UP8 AC 400W DC 600W 2x16A Dual Channel Battery Balance Charger or this one?
If it had a touch screen it would be perfect
And for what is the PC Link used for?
Update software
Hey, question from a noob: I am building my first FPV and really like the night vision of the Caddx Ratel cam. However I also really want a built in DVR like the HD cam had on one of your last build videos. Is there an option to combine both of those features somehow? thanks!
There are 20x20mm dvr boards available
How does it compare to the D6
Died in 6 months of use. Was good while it lasted.
I bought this chargeer since you said is could kill a lipo battery. It doesn't seem to have any feature to drain lipos down to 0v. Watched is again and maby you where just kidding. I have alot of swollen lipos I need to drain to 0v. Can't find any safe way to do it.
If you have swollen lipos... cut the connectors off them and put them in a bucket of very salty water. They will discharge and be safe to throw away. Or take them to batteries plus.
Do u have to make adapter for xt30?
Nice vid! I'll Stick to my HOTA D6 pro dual
Nice work my friend 😎👍 Keep it up and stay safe 😷🤟🏻 Greetings from Germany
Thanks, will do! Hope you're well also Lenny. Stay safe bro. - JD.
@@dronecamps
Hey my friend because of you I bought the
DUO T 240 charger touch screen.
I'm still very happy with it.
Do you still use your Duo ?
Keith Kuhn
How does this compare to HOTA D6 Pro Dual?
Has more features and newer design / better navigation / servo tester / motor tester / larger screen and just overall nicer. It's about a year newer design also. Much better.
I was wondering the exact same thing. Not sure that's worth the extra costs though. $100 vs $170.
Nice but would have liked to see the max on 6s👍😉
We had enough of "smart" chargers.We really need a charger that bring back dead cells!
#zombieland
Not necessarily recommended but you can charge with caution LiPo's w/o the balance lead using the NiMH setting until it gets to 3v per cell. After that, switch back to LiPo and charge as normal. Keep an eye on it while it's charging, particularly when using the NiMH setting as this is kind of a work around which isn't recommended by the manufacturer. But it works.
@@Funcentric Thanks, i've tried this trick, but i couldn't save any cell of any battery!
You can pull up "dead" cell voltage with any laboratory DC power supply with current limiter. Charge cell with 100 mA current to 3.2V (it will happen quite fast). Then let battery to charge as usual. However results may vary. "Dead" cells often are already degraded so during use they will sag very fast, rendering all battery unusable.
I’d just like to get my hands on a Thor 4x2s charger!!!!!
Does this do single cell repair
What power supply do you recommend for the UP6+?
RL power are bad ass
Hey man, this is a weird question. But do you have a video of you flying a whoop in a dome house? If so, I'm trying to find it again, but I'm having trouble. Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!
Seems like the shelf behind you is about to go bad...
Got a Hota D6 Pro from Banggood and when turned on I just get the message "CH1 Self-check failed! (E108)". Troubleshooting I did: firmware update or hard reboot, but problem continued. Not happy!
UPDATE
- reported the issue to HOTA, sent emails several times for any news, and they only kept replying "sorry to hear that" and did nothing
- reported the issue to Banggood, and after sending the unit back was fully refunded
- now I have an ISDT D2
can it changes radio 7.4v Lipo battery ?
Yes
will it automatically balance?
Yes if plugged in ;)
Is this "charging" mode is balance charging?
Sure
@@embargo2135 thank you. So O don't see the option, I am guessing by default it balance charges?
What are the available modes for nimh? I hope it has AV sensitivity adjustment/detection and battery cycle and trickle current for nimh
Still waiting on a multiport 1s charger that can do storage charge.
Parallel board is what I use. Works well.
I'm waiting for a multiport 1s charger that can do storage charge too but I have to have it test internal resistance also because it's important to know the condition of the battery and how well one brand of battery maker performs compared to other.
Would this handle 2 4s 9000mah lipos at the same time on ac power input? And still charge fast
Wow! 300w for AC?!
Does it have the fan running continuously as soon as you turn it on like the HOTA does ? It's the only thing that annoys me on the HOTA. The small ISDTs only turn the fan when needed.
No the fan does not always run
@@scritchfpv1119 thanks !
Why does it hurt people's pussy that a fan is running? Are you holding the damn charger to you ear the whole fucking time you're charging batteries?
Great review. Seriously thinking about pulling the trigger on this unit. I need a dual-port for charging RC truck batteries and I like the higher W when using DC (which I will, 24V 400W ps). Question for you, can you change the W's per channel? eg, set channel 1 to 200W and Channel 2 to 400W if I wanted to charge a few batteries on my parallel board?
I don’t think so. But you could def parallel charge. I use the URIAV Blacklight parallel board.
@@dronecamps Great, thank you for the reply. It's either between this one or the ISDT P30. I do like the ability to do Syncro parallel charging on the ISDT.
Thank you for the video. I am new in this hobby so my question may be silly but I am wondering how you charge the smaller batteries, such as 1S-2S,etc, with smaller battery and balance connectors. Does the charger come with any adapter for smaller batteries. the second question is that does the vendor provide any update to the firmware. Please advise.
Get parallel charging board with XT60 connector. It will allow you to charge anything from 2S to 6S. 1S batteries however are like 1 cell in larger battery. You can charge them in bulk, connected in series. Connect connections between cells to appropriate balance connector pins. For safety reasons though charge only the same capacity batteries at once.
@@KrotowX Wasn't aware of the parallel charging board. Balance connections for 1S batteries is still little bit confusing but I will search for a video. Thank you.
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