Oh wow. A whole hour and a half of creamy diarrhoea. If you honestly call THIS poo ‘content’, then you need to get your head checked. My channel has more nuanced Doctor Who reviews and my videos are thicker and dencher. Your channel is a graveyard and I’m the bullet that put you there. 💀💀☠️💀
I like how ya take the piss out of your own channel, but you're right, an hour an a half is way to fuckin long for something I already know is shit. I watched 2 eps and I was done with this season of Dr Who
That's unfair, it sucks on each and every level so completely, to single any one element out for total suckage is invidious and does a gross disservice to all the other elements which suck asshole to infinity in their own right.
Wit, charm, and modest brilliance would be great. Oh; I guess I'm thinking above my station -- do you think Dame Helen Mirren has the makings of this Doctor?
That would legitimately be a great "first woman Doctor". Sweet old grandmas can go undetected and underestimated. So many ways to make good episodes around that.
Alas, the whole idea of Chibnal's mess has plainly been to appeal to young people -- a fresh new audience to gorw up with new Doctors and stick with them forever. An older man is fine; an older woman -- ? Hell, no! Stupid, stereotype-bound, commercially limited decisions got us here. I don't think I'm going to live long enough to see the show grow back to itself -- assuming it lasts at all.
I loved the part where 13 kept saying "nO gUnS" but then lured a bunch of spiders into a room to starve to death and let another one painfully suffocate. Real solid moral compass.
Also: detonated DNA bombs in Tim Shaw, and then the person being targeted by Tim Shaw for murderizing pushes him off a crane, so she says "you had no right"
And then killed a TEENAGER who wanted better rights and yes he was doing something bad but she never punishes the ai who killed an innocent girl instead of getting more help
I just realized the racial discrimination scene perfectly demonstrates what’s wrong with Whitaker’s doctor. Can you imagine ANY of the other doctors reacting so passively to Ryan getting assaulted the reaction should be like when the tenth doctor loses it at the dad yelling at him in that one with the alien tvs.
contrast fem who to capaldis who who punched out a guy just for making a comment towards Bill for being black. whittekers weak woman dr just stood there while far worse occurred. women are warriors against oppression, right? it seems the limp wristed bbc only want to point at racism, instead of actually portraying someone actually confronting it.
You know what’s really messed up? 13 uses similarly racist language to Ryan when she first meets him. She calls him “boy”, which is used racially against Black men in America. The racist guy in Rosa calls him “boy” as well. As soon as I heard her say that, I cringed. She could have said any other word. Lad. Fella. Gent. Anything else. But she says boy. I love when woke people trip up and expose themselves.
Just like Rian Johnson was for Star Wars. Say what you want about JJ and Force Awakens, you can tell that he genuinely love Star Wars, all its flaws and beauty. For Johnson it felt like he likes it as well maybe even love it but wants to change it completely for the sake of being different and make it "better" while ultimately leading nowhere. I feel Chibnall is the same way. Both these people either just want to be different for the sake of being different or they just don't get the franchise they have.
@@nostalgiatrip1 In some ways, there's still even a bit of the 'good' in there as well, as arguably Rogue One's the best of the new lot, with some good stuff of it's own that doesn't feel like rehashes or 'subvert expectations'.
@@gratuitouslurking8610 2/3 of the original trilogy stories were about blowing up the death star, anyone who complains about rehashing story in startwars has as much idea of what makes starwars good as Rian Johnson does. It's a space opera, just like in soap operas the overall story doesn't matter it's only there so we can see characters interact, every single Iconic moment from starwars is about characters and JJ understood that's why at the end of the force awakens all you have is questions about characters, Who's snoke? who are rays parents? where is luke? ect, while when you have an generic action story like in the last jedi the only real question is "Why are they making another movie after this?" because the rebels have lost, there is no way to recover without some stupid bullshit like finding a lost rebel fleet somewhere and there are no questions about the characters. Rogue one was a good action movie, but it's not a space opera like episodes 1 to 7, Though i would be happy for them just to abandon the main series and just make decent spin offs like this and not trying to bait people in like they did Solo: The story no one asked for.
@jason lewis Well yea, it's a trilogy, he was writing it as one, the only mainline stand alone Star wars movie is Star Wars (A New Hope) because it was never intended series. Basically everything you mentioned doesn't matter, not trying to be rude but, watch the first 3 movies and they tell you fuck all about the political state of the galaxy or how they manage to build 2 death stars so quickly. Sure the prequels gave us a shit ton of lore but, people hated them...well until TFA and TLJ came out, now I only see people talking about how good they are, disney basically sat down JJ and told him to stay the fuck away from anything that even remotely looked like the prequels, so that's why there isn't even a hint of lore in the movies. JJ did fine setting everything up, it was rian that fucked it, was TFA a master piece, no but nether was A new hope which is weakest of the original trilogy and I'm not even going to mention how god awful the phantom menace was compared to clone wars and return of the sith.
Can we all stop and acknowledge that Chibnall has accomplished one thing that's pretty impressive. Got Davies fans and Moffat fans to agree on something. True, it's the fact that he sucks worse than either, but still!
It really annoyed me how hard people were on Moffat towards the end, sure his overarching storylines were hit and miss, but even in the weaker seasons in that respect (6,7 and 9) there were some great individual episodes.
@@andybyrd4107 Moffat's troubles started with 12 - or more accurately 12 and Clara. Clara shined with 11, because they were both equally as...manic. But 12 was far calmer and poised (guitar solos on tanks not withstanding) so the two characters just grated against each other. I liked Bill, but before too long, Moffat started trying to cram 2 episodes worth of plot into a one episode slot. But overall, I agree - it was mostly Davies fans that were trashing him for the most part. Probably because he trolled them a bit with how he handled Amy and 11 (in contrast to 10 and Rose freaking Tyler)
@@digitalutopia1 I preferred Clara with Capaldi because in her first series she was just copying Matt Smith and the show already had a character like that. I think the conversation in the cafe where they both lie to each other about being happy and everything working out should have been the last we saw of her though. That would have been poignant and meant something.
@@andybyrd4107 It's funny you say 6, 7 and 9 where the weaker season, becuase I think the exact opposite. 5, 8 and 10 were the weakest, and 6, 7 and 9 were decent overall.
That the problem, series 11 is poorly written. The actors involved are proven good actors so it's unfortunate to see the potential for new and interesting stories being totally squandered
@@themadhammer3305 how do you like peices of cinematic work where the actors write about their charicter living and enjoying, and disliking things and even episodes with them as their character helping drive the story
@@VincentGonzalezVeg well to use a previous doctor who character as an example. the actor who played Wilfred Mott had input on how the character was written, the scene where he talks about being in Palestine in 1948 was a real experience of the actor who played Wilfred. In my opinion scenes like that help make a character feel like a real person, obviously not every scene can be improvised but actor input on their character and being given a bit of Lee way to improvise usually does work quite well
Here's something an actual critic might do: Explain why the earlier seasons worked and this one didn't. Instead of assuming everyone's a sexist because of a stunt to boost ratings (that failed).
@@Nevir202 this is exactly why i went from criticizing garbage isekai novels with over-sexualized heroines to writing a series of garbage isekai fantasy novel with over-sexualized heroine.
Racism was adressed in "Family of blood", where noone believes that Martha could be a doctor, because she's a black woman. It gives her a good moment to stand her ground and is generally pretty well written.
Like we always say, "It's not the the fact that she's a woman that's the problem, it's that she's a poorly written character that happens to be a woman." Don't use your gender as your most important feature.
What i find to be wrong is it brakes the story of the 13th doctor as seen in the show , The 13th Doctor is broken a mess unsure what is good are bad anymore. It was going to be such a great story calling back to how ppl did see the 1th doctor. but as a woman is nothing not even knowing it till told or acting like.
yeah it's actually kind of insane how I went from being in love with this show to straight up not bothering with the new season. stopped episode 2 half way and haven't bothered to continue.
The thing that annoys me the most is that they dropped the whole lonely god complex that Davies really worked on. Tennants acting as a man who keeps running because if he stops he will relize how lonely he is is heartbreaking I know this hasn’t got much to do about the comment but I just wanted to talk about how much I love the older episodes
@@thechazzler8934 The 10th Doctor and his adventures are straight up magical. I almost feel like that attitude and vibe Tennant brought to the role gave me a whole new lease on life, a new perspective, a new morality.
@@Xerophlume Fetus, Yes, that's authentic Doctor, to me, -- loneliness, and loss. Capaldi's version of this gave me a place to put my own feelings during the years that my husband was descending into Alzheimer's and death. I swear, if Capaldi's Doctor hadn't played it all out there in front of me, I think I'd have exploded with that kind of pain, the way people can. They say every fan eventually gets the Doctor they deserve; I'd loved Tom Baker and enjoyed Pertwee, but I think Capaldi helped me save my sanity.
Basically Dr. Who became the one thing that will kill any show: agressively bland. Bland writing, bland acting, bland music, bland cinematography. I'd rather watch a baseball player swing for the fences and sometimes miss than bunt every at-bat. It's just not thrilling to watch.
@@demitraferles7970 Not really. Firstly, I'm not sure how Doctor Who wasn't politically correct before. Like, you had that Silurian woman and the other woman having an on-screen snog in series 8, and Bill being black and lesbian, and some of the pro-worker (I can't think of a better word) lines that the Doctor had in series 10, like the bit in Thin Ice when he shuts down that posh racist guy. Secondly, I think it's just that the writing was not good. None of the characters felt like real people, or different people for that matter, motivations for doing anything important rarely made sense, the villains were uninteresting, let alone unthreatening and the dialogue was just truly _awful._ Even if the Doctor had been a guy as normal, she would have still been grossly unDoctorlike. She had giant spiders starve to death, murdered that Amazon worker guy in cold blood, got the Master sent to a concentration camp, and was utterly pathetic in hiding behind her so-called "social awkwardness" as an excuse not to comfort Graham about his cancer worries. The acting was similarly dull, although I suppose we can blame that on the absence of real characters to act out, and the music wouldn't even fit a department store lift. I can tell you, as someone who watched series 11 and 12, that it doesn't have anything to do with politics, especially not when the only things it really gets right are "racism is bad" and "climate change is bad". The show just happened to be shite.
@Matrix29bear so youre getting so much sex and have so many women coming your way that you feel Jodie Whittaker is unattractive? Or maybe just maybe you mocking her is your way at getting back at her for....... a) ruining the show with diversity= adding cast member that you can't relate too. b) having the cheek to bring all her womanly essence to this most manly of shows( even thought most of the recurring cast since the reboot have been female.) c) the bad writing...... this is Doctor Who we still talking about right? d) or maybe some of you hate the fact that she a woman because you can't relate to her and but you can relate to an near immortal alien with two hearts and who shows more compassion than most of you are showing in this comment section. e) your a virgin and an incel who knows deep down you don't have a chance with most women because of who you are inside and out and calling them ugly is your way getting back someone who doesn't even know your alive.
Season 10, The Doctor's companion is insulted by a racist this angers the Doctor enough for him to knock the guy out. Season 11, the Doctor's companion gets a slap in the face and the Doctor doesn't even give one of her telling off. This is an example of one of the things I really hate about the Chiball era, there's no way the Doctor would be so chilled out about someone under their care being assaulted, this was a great opportunity for the new Doctor to go dark and be a badass but nope she apparently has less teeth than Nardole..
Whittaker's Doc, however he's written, has no passion. She's just like one of those boring characters in "Broadchurch", which literally put me to sleep, the people were so dull.
@@ichabod1370 It seems that with her they were like "Well she's the first female doctor, what else does she need?" As a woman I was all for a female doctor but like she needs a personality too you know? Nobody has any personality here. The doctor, the companions, they're all so boring. What a disappointment.
032 "I watched all of Who for this video" Dang a few seasons must have ate up a good week or two- "And I mean ALL OF WHO" Oh lord, how did you survive?!
Hartnell, Troughton, Pertwee-hit-or-rmiss, fast forward, Eccleston, Tennant... *The End.* All in, about 13 years. Anything else was drivel. All aboard the Tardis and mind the doors, please! 😜😂
TimStamper Honestly that scene where Van Gogh is crying in the gallery and then when Amy comes back and realises that even with their help he still killed himself broke me as it shows how depression can't be solved with one act and the like.
Honestly Murray Gold was a genius and I think it is in fact the biggest loss of the entire show’s history. Apart from the doctors dick. I imagine the next male doctor will feel pretty good when he has that back
It's like those low budget crappy music videos where the first scene is the same as the last scene to try and add some sense of continuity even though there isn't any. At all.
I agree with everything you've said about Chibnall, but I disagree - it does matter. The BBC should find a better show runner. One who understands the elements you pointed out.
Johnny snowden stuck in the outreaches of space on a hostile alien planet and your only means of escape had no chance of reappearing. Yes, the Doctor would definitely go, "it's fine, it doesn't matter, this planet will kill us and you're thousands of light years from home, but it doesn't matter, we'll be fine." Remember when the Eleventh Doctor said: "Yes, if we lie to her, she'll get all better."
@@samuelbarber4154 it’s more the fact that the companions do not give a shit. They unwillingly got teleported into deep space, suffering oxygen deprivation, got shot at by robots, and still don’t really care or are angry towards the doctor in ANY way. They literally just accept it. There’s no character conflicts. Imagine Rose, Martha or Donna having this happen on their first “accidental” outing. The Doctor would get a right slap. Maybe it’s bc she’s a woman it would seem too old fashioned to get angry at her. Unpopular opinion I know
"i reformatted your phone" she says, matter of factly. "all my stuff's on there!" he says, obviously dismayed. "not anymore!" she replies pitilessly and obnoxiously; like she LOVES the fact he's upset. because yes, THAT'S endearing. everyone loves a bully.
I know I'm late, but I completely agree. Screwing with someone's stuff, taking joy in their dismay and showing no remorse is sociopathic behavior, not friend teasing.
@@aubreykosch4227 To be completely fair, Peter Capaldi took Matt Smith's social awkwardness and increased it to sociopathic levels without having Smith's eccentric charm to balance it out. The Doctor being sociopathic didn't start with Whittaker. At times, Capaldi felt like the Valeyard, which I would be more forgiving of if the Valeyard had actually been ACKNOWLEDGED while the Doctor was in his sociopathic phase. Instead Moffat waited until his last episode, long after Capaldi had grown out of that phase, to mention that the Valeyard existed and even then it was just a throwaway line.
Joanna Lumley was the Doctor for 90 seconds in a Comic Relief sketch. In that time she gave more personality and character to the Doctor than I saw in the entire last season. I can't tell you what Wittakers Doctor is, what quirks she has, etc. except her being female. I can't tell you about the personality of her companions other than "Old guy" "Clumsy guy" and "girl." I couldn't give you a summary of a single episode from the entire season. It was just bland.
Thanks for the heads up. I only watched young Smith as the Dr, because of young Pond's incredible acting. I somehow doubted a female Dr would do well, because Chibnal is incapable of writing a strong female role. I've heard her performances were tepid. Personally, I expect an alien of the Dr's calibre to both amuse and terrify me, which is why my respective placings would be Tennant, Eccleston, then Hartnell. The Dr is fond of our species, but brooks little nonsense from us.
Guy who looks like he should be the Doctor, woman who looks like she should be a smart and capable companion without being a Mary Sue for a change, obligatory token black guy, random East Indian chick because BBC.
@@stone-ageraccoon1157 Exactly. They have no personality other than their gender or skin colour. As a minority myself i am much more than simply those things, martha was a good example of this. She wasnt just a token black girl, she was a well developed memorable character.
"A lot of Doctor Who is getting through the schlock to get to those episodes which are really special" That's the best description of the show I've ever heard.
Chris was probably trying to take us back to old who, despite the fact that doctor who learned pretty quickly that having one companion is much easier to write a character for.
Basically, Chibbs writes plot-driven stories instead of character-driven ones. And not only do character-driven stories work better generally, it’s especially the case for Doctor Who because The Doctor, the companions, the monster and how they all interact based on the choices and themes in the episode is kind of the whole point of the show. RTD and Moffat understood that in a way I fear Chibbs never will.
No, he just wrote shite. Plot driven is good. Aristotle agrees with me. Chibnall just spews utter drek and I have no idea how he managed to do a Broadchurch.
@P A TV's still had to be plugged in and cords were shorter. Also have you ever lifted a proper square TV and not a flat screen? Those things can be as heavy as a couch.
Hide? Don't hide just switch it off. It's pure Dr Poo. And yes being a Woman is a part of the problem. The other parts being the crap stories and blatant PC BS. Turn it off and it will go away, as it should.
Also since people tended to do parties and social things at home. the couch was away from the wall, allowing sideboards and table. and a place for people to gather all around. Europeans did this traditionally. the US too but not as much.
The only heating in the room was a fire, so the settee had to be reasonably close to it if you weren't going to get hypothermia. And, yes, I hid behind ours.
That comparison of Van Gogh and Rosa Parks episodes was spot on. Van Gogh still makes me cry everytime Bill Nighy praises him. I couldn't care less about Rosa when 13th spoke.
The show has lost its whimsical fun creepiness. Love Jodi, but am beyond sad the writing is so horrid for her. The writers ruined this all time favorite show. Come back Neil Gaiman!
Its legitimately so frustrating too because we have seen those moments when jodi really shines through and i want so badly what she could do with someone decent to support her obvious skill as an actress
I love how during Moffat's tenure, everyone hated him, especially towards the end, but now he's gone, everyone's suddenly acting like he always struck gold.
Imainge you have two choices between a lunch. One lunch is some crazy type of curry/different food you haven't had before and the other is a very very plain and boring sandwich. Not even a good normal. It may look kinda good but you can tell its not gonna be. I cant speak for you but im taking the curry
Moffat certainly didn't always strike gold (in fact I'd say he only did once on his own - series 5. Yes he wrote extremely good episodes for RTD, but his biggest failure is recognising which of his big ideas are stupid, and when he wasn't the showrunner, he had someone else to reign him in), but at least he didn't constantly drill straight through the bedrock.
You know what, I didn't even realise one of the biggest reasons I disliked the new series: Daddy Murray is no longer doing the music. The music in Doctor Who has always been one of the most enjoyable parts of the show for me.
My father had only watched the older Doctor Who once or twice growing up as it wasn't his type of show. I urged him to watch the Van Goph episode and he teared up at the final scene. The idea that Vincet was suffering from depression yet was able to see the impact he had in the world of art is beautiful and something to speak of even though he inevitably lost his fight. The message is strong but clear and to this day remains my favorite episode.
Brilliant episode, nitpix didn't mention it and i could have imagined it but i remember taking away an implication that the doctor taking him to the future was the final straw which caused Van Gogh's suicide which added to the (already heavy) emotional impact of that ending
@@Cheesusful I thought something like that too, but it seemed that it was left as a bit question unanswered - which, imho, is the best way. You are left wondering if it was because or despite of the Doctor.
Chibnall: Don't challenge me, fans, because I'm a completely new showrunner. I could bring down your "Doctor Who" with a single word. Fans: You're the worst writer and showrunner we've ever met, but we don't think you're quite capable of that. Chibnall: No, you're right. Not a single word, just six. Fans: We don't think so. Chibnall: Six words. Fans: Stop it! Chibnall: Six. Chibnall goes over to BBC and shows this: Chibnal: The Doctor is the timeless child! Fans: What did he say? BBC: Oh, well, nothing, really. Fans: What did he say? BBC: Nothing. I don't know. Fans: Chibnall, Chibnall, what did you? What was that? What did he do? What did you say, Chibnall? Chibnall! You stupid...
12 revealed that he is a hybrid right towards the end so the doctor being part time lord and part whatever makes sense to me. I wish more people would look at this show with more love and understanding. It's debatably the greatest TV show in the world and the longest running so just imagine the pressure on Chris Chibnall and the new writers to deliver. They're all trying to fill gigantic shoes here and the show did grow stronger from season 11 to 12. I've grown to love Jodie and I'm still giving these writers and Chris a lot of slack. All the negative criticisms might do more harm than good.
I really hope that Murray Gold will come back for the 60th. I can't imagine a episode with 10, 11, 12 without The doctor forever, I am the doctor and A good man.
@@razlad2523 let's not J. K. Rowling's the doctor just yet. The tenth doctor believes he (essentially) killed all other time lords. If the Master lives, he did not commit full genocide of his own people.
Why get so triggered when someone points out that people in the past were racist by our standards? We should be able to look back and laugh because we've progressed.
Yes there was more cultural racism, but forgetting that the cultural change against racism began in the 60s, so must have been doing something right. “Everyone in the past was racist” is just an oversimplification of the past to feel smug about who you are today. But whateverervereverever
I'm so glad you mentioned the change of composers. The music in the doctor who was one of the main reasons why I loved the show but since they changed composers every scene in the new season just feels really empty.
I can't begin to describe my frustration with various situations where 13 basically just shrugs her shoulders at the villain, especially when similar confrontations created some of the best moments for previous Doctors. I want a 13 'Captain Runaway' speech or just an episode where she comes across as someone I should actually listen to. She's an incredibly passive protagonist.
perfect analysis, actually: in order to address the division in the audience, they played it as safe as humanly possible in an attempt to not piss off either side. yet ultimately what that resulted in was not pleasing either side either - EVERYONE just saw it as almost violently mediocre.
My brother would say "that is what sjw's do to everything they touch." I like to think this is what happens when you make art for money not art for art.
@@entertain7us148 It does if you believe your political party would eat you alive if you said anything that doesn't fit the narrative. This is what is happening were I live. Everyone is acting like their poo doesn't stink. And, when someone just happens to smell it, they mark you with the scarlet letter. Thank goodness I'm illiterate.
Dryice 2199 I spose. That was truly poetic. That was my original point tho - trying desperately not to offend anyone on either side so being just mediocre enough to actually end up pissing off both sides. If that reflects any political position at all, it’s probably centrism.
"they played it as safe as humanly possible in an attempt to not piss off either side" You've got Chibnall practically boasting that a chunk of his (uniformly leftwing) cadre of writers now partly comprise of individuals hired because they ticked boxes rather than were proficient in their craft. You've got the ever noxious, charisma-free Whittaker frequently gassing on about muh feminism via interviews instead of promoting the show. You've got practically every episode of the season dedicated to ramming various facets of _far_ Left ideology down the audience's throat at the expense of the ingenious escapist entertainment they so desperately want. You've got elements of the leftwing media blatantly shilling for the show SOLELY because of _ideological_ expediency..... (phew) .....and you're intimating that Doctor Who is failing because it attempted to placate all 'sides'?! Well each to their own and all that but nah.
To be fair, she was following someone who did a bit of that. Guitar battles in the medieval times anyone? The problem is.. one of these was better written than the other and the actor is much better suited for it. Chibnall tried to pick up where it was left without being a good writer or having good writing staff and an actress who just doesn't fit that type of character. It's a shame, they could have done better with what they were given.
@@Folsomdsf2 The 12th doctor was the biggest shame of its time, and some of the moments like the one you mentioned just made me slam my face into a door.
@@Solisus starting the video with "this is sponsored by X" and then his message about the sponsor, would been better than this random lets pretend its natural
Vincent and The Doctor - An episode that makes me fucking cry every time I see it because it's so powerful. One of the best Who episodes ever penned. Rosa - I dunno, it's racism I guess.
My favorite example of Murray Gold's genius was the Amy/Rory motif throughout the first half of Series 7. It slowly builds on itself through several episodes until it reaches a climax of full statement with choral part when Amy and Rory jump from the roof in The Angels Take Manhattan.
It's a Moffat situation again. Chibnall wrote 42, The Hungry Earth/Cold Blood, and a bunch of Torchwood episodes, which are all good stories, but he's not that good a showrunner, it seems
“I can’t even objectify the doctor” that is somehow the best description someone has ever given on the 13th doctor. Shows how little personality she has. Like 10th and 11th have some type of personality and “quirk”.
I hate the music. I hate how every episode has some statement it is making. I hate how 13 has no personality. I hate how they are wasting historical figures for shoutouts, only using them to seem ‘woke’. What was the point of Ada Lovelace being in Spyfall?! I would have loved an episode like The Unquiet Dead with her in it but the plot was so dull and lifeless. Pretty much the only thing I like about the new seasons is Ryan and Graham.
All the best episodes have a statement they’re making, especially left wing ones, it’s a big part of the shows history, the difference is just that these episodes don’t do it very well.
@@Noah-po2cr left wing yes, but still in good taste and not literally calling the other side Nazis, racist or whatever the ism of the week is, Doctor who used to respect both sides, now it only preaches to one.
Just compare how 13 uses historical figures to how others use them, every episode I watch has some political message. 11 included Hitler for gods sake, they just put him in cupboard showed distain and carried on. That was a good episode. Hell there's a scene now where 13 describes her change as an 'upgrade' despite contradicting the fact that Timelords surpassed concepts like this a long time ago. It's all just a mess with the focus on a political message rather than having a good story. Have a good story then add in a political message.
@@jakechinn6561 yeah never liked how the 13th uses historical people to push agenda's. in the older seasons they where just well themselves part of the furniture.
pinkchihua Ada Lovelace being in spyfall was so odd, they just seemed to clutter up what started as an interesting modern day story. Also they had Lovelace and Babbage but only treated Ada Lovelace as being important, it seems like they are trying to ignore one persons achievement so they can make a woman seem like the main creator. They were both important and deserved more than to be shoehorned in to an unrelated episode. The best message doctor who has had was Martha in Elizabethan London, mentioning that people may notice that she’s black only for the doctor to effectively say people won’t care. It let Martha be something more than her race as she could actually develop a personality, while also having a great message that you shouldn’t care about someone’s race. To compare that message with today, it’s as if we’ve taken a step backwards far from the policy of letting people be people everything is aimed at going look at that minority they need help and extra representation because they definitely are incapable of doing something themselves, then getting angry at white people for thinking this isn’t fair. It’s fine to have a message, but if you’re making people take a step back and go what you have fucked up, the best message is one that someone watching in the future won’t notice like the Star Trek kiss between Kirk and Uhura, massive then but something without knowing the context doesn’t seem unusual for the plot. The recent poisoned planet episode which SPOILERS turns out to be earth because writers are predictable, was so on the nose about climate change it’s ridiculous, we know it’s a problem don’t patronise us.
From what I recall, 9, 10, 11, and 12 had reasons for being. Recovering from the war, wanting to reject a past self and just adventure, cutting loose on his enemies, and eventually accepting what was and looking older again...or something like that. Writing aside, maybe this version just doesn't have a reason to be. Maybe that's why it feels "meh."
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR BEING THE FIRST PERSON TO ACTUALLY CREDIT MURRAY GOLD. I've downloaded every Dr Who soundtrack with him on it and I just adore his work. Such an underrated composer and definetly my favorite.
Creation I actually DID hide behind my couch, when I was Quebecker, from a Quebecker, child-friendly, production of some mind (that I had on DVD), of _Annie Brocoli_ : I mean, it’s just that Annie lost his little friend, but she thought he was sitting right beside her, and when she realized it, the music became “DU-DUUUUH, TRAGIC !!!😱”; and then, she was growing more and more desperate and then ends the scary part by screaming his name to the sky, or smth... Yeah, that DEFINITELY scared me a lot, lol ! And I haven’t been scared like that ever since, nor before
What I hate the most about 13, is that there is nothing that ties the season together. Have a look at the crack in time or bad wolf, those made everything for together...
Chibnall criticized DW for not really challenging the audience way back when, and you can see how that viewpoint has influenced the latest season. Thing is, it's even less challenging now. The show just presents a black and white situation and tells you which one is the right one, then the credits role. I find it kinda funny.
Forgive me for saying this, but it sounds like politics. Remember everyone, the other side is evil, and wrong. They definitely don't all have unique and varied reasons for why they believe what they do. Every single person is either with you, or against you. There is no in-between, or gray area. Just listen to our side, we'll tell you what is right and wrong, and what to believe. Note that I'm not saying which side does this. That's because everyone does this, no matter the political side they personally adhere to. inb4 I'm obviously [insert political side opposite who ever is replying to me] so anything I say should be ignored, or is dangerous, or some other bullshit.
Do you mean Robert Llewellyn? I don't think he's Welsh though. Back to Reality was filmed on Rhyl beach though, I know that because I watched them film it.
For the first episode they should've had two competing aliens trying to kill Ryan. Why Ryan? Because he was the first person to touch the Mystery Fig. No stupid timeless bombs that don't do anything, no stupid tentacle blob that doesn't do anything.
and ride a bike to escape, scrap that whole youtube channel sht, ask doctor to save grace when she got tardis back, give doctor a death cable instead of his phone because why not,...
Oh that’s actually interesting. The aliens could come from a planet where these hunting competitions are used to give status to different people. It would give the doctor this odd three way situation of 2 characters stopping each other from killing someone because they want to kill them themselves, while the doctor is stuck in the middle just trying to stop them both and save the person. What a fun way to introduce a new companion too, by having them at the center of a ridiculous sci fi alien society thing they can really reinforce their role as the grounded half of The Who dynamic who is meant to be a vessel for the viewer. It lets the doctor have a strong conflict and allows the doctor to have time with a new companion who can also have chances to show off why they would be a good and unique new companion. As far as concepts for an episode, and more specifically a new series introductory episode, of doctor who I actually really love this idea.
@@ArlanKels Yeah I agree with that. Like simplifying the story down makes it easier and more digestible to portray and understand characters and the world they’re in. There are examples of complex that work really well (like inception and honestly really any Christopher Nolan movie) but generally speaking simplistic story let’s you highlight the other aspects more clearly. Well nonetheless the story in that episode was simple and yet somehow nonsensically dumb and it did not do a good job of using what simplicity was there to help focus on character and world building.
It’s the opposite for me. No matter how hard I try, I cannot possibly hate or not enjoy any of it. Colin Baker? Passive enjoyment. Love and Monsters? At least slightly interesting. Sleep No More? Very passive enjoyment. It is not humanly possible for me to not like anything Doctor Who, which gets me in some very heated debates.
Chibnall is notorious for over-saturating the story, with tons of things happening at once, without doing much with all of them. The kerblam episode was decent, but I wasn't really entranced with any of the others, and a lack of memorable moments. I agree he was trying to do something "different", and I enjoy something intriging that makes me think, but this series didn't scratch my itch.
"It''s wasn't really challenging to watch" A. Well you've sure as hell has made it hard to watch, I can't even finish an episode without yawning B. Why does Doctor Who have to be a challenge to watch?
45:00 no doctor I respected would've just stood there and said "I don't want any trouble." It's just painful how poorly they wrote poor Jody. I really hope they can right the ship, because this show has meant a lot to me.
This show has always known how to write good female characters: River Song, the first Clara, Missy, Amy... How come it suddenly forgot how to do that when its main character became female?
"How come it suddenly forgot how to do that when its main character became female?" It didn't. The anti-Female Doctor propaganda that got circulated before the season started created a viewer bias before she ever hit the screen, and people are nit picking her more than the other female characters as a result. There isn't really that much difference between her and any of the doctors that came before her. She is very Matt Smith like
I remember the Monday after Doctor Who episode Rose aired was our bin day, i happened to be going out to the shop as the guys who come along to empty the bins came round as far as my bins. Made a joke about getting eaten by a wheelie bin and they laughed even though they been getting those all day. Russell T Davis was a genius because he was able to get an every day object that you barely even notice is there, and make it suddenly scary.
I’d say five S12 a go, or at least the first few episodes of each new season, to see if it’s any good. Might be missing out in something good. Like It Takes You Away, which was a genuinely amazing story (save the frog bit, if you’re not into that) or Resolourion.
Yeah, female Doctor is insanely inconsistent. Like in the giant spider episode where she won't let that guy kill the dying spiders (thus giving them a quick and merciful death) and instead lets them having a slow and painful death for no reason whatsoever. In the first episode, it was okay for her blow up the bad guy but the crane operator pushing him off the crane was over the line. She is so all over the map.
Also, she has a go at Ryan for shooting at non-sentient robots that are trying to kill them but blows them up straight afterwards. And tries to justify it in a later episode by stating that she only destroys things that can be rebuilt.
@Joshua Simpson That was a bit different. The Doctor, as a character, had been dealing with U.N.I.T. off on for a long time (I think an early version with Stweart, not even a Brigadier yet first appeared during the second Doctor's time) and he had, in the past, had conversations with the people in charge about their tactics, to no avail. I would also point out that: (1) Other people's lives were in danger and don't think the Doctor is going to demand that U.N.I.T. soldiers risk innocent lives going in unarmed and helpless and (2) most of the creatures U.N.I.T. faced were bulletproof or had a way to disable their guns so it was a moot point. Seriously, I don' think there has ever been a "Doctor Who" episode with U.N.I.T. where their guns did anything but annoy the evil alien(s). I would also say that is a far cry from "you can't shoot the giant spider, that's cruel, we'll just let it die a slow and painful death because it can' breathe or whatever.
I didn't think the Rosa episode was very realistic. The white racist people were really over the top, like hating black people was all they ever did or thought about. They didn't come across like they just too racist attitudes for granted, they seemed like enraged fantatics who thought about nothing but race. Rosa herself was made to seem almost angelic, she was literally back lit when she first appeared. She was so saintly that she also didn't seem like a real person, any more than the furiously racist towns people did. Also some of the depictions of events were misleading. The bus driver involved wasn't a screaming monster, he was more annoyed in a "look, I've got a job to do, why are you making a fuss?" kind of way according to actual accounts. It was all made very cartoonish. And the bad guy really was incredibly boring. I actually joked as I was watching "is the bad guy going to be an evil space racist?" And then it turned out he was.
@@gombocdimensional9050because it's ends up like Chinese Xianxia novels "a perfect human being" which we sure as Frick aren't, its just bad writing IMO
@@GotoMaki4Micah I would have loved the Dr to be Tilda Swinton. So disappointed with this one. She got the scatterbrain, that talks to much part of her role right, but sadly in a none entertaining way. I just don't want to listen to her. After the often to serious Capaldi, Swinton would have been ideal. Alien, new to being female,... - just perfect!
Jerrica Benton I think she’s got the right charisma and style, but we haven’t seen enough of her emotional power. Nearly all other Doctors (definitely all the good Doctors) had bursts of wrath and still had childish moments. The new series is good enough (some episodes needed better writing) but we need another one to see all the potential of Whittaker. I agree other series have been more iconic in fewer episodes but I was skeptic about Peter Capaldi at first. I really disliked him at first and thought the first episodes could’ve been better... but now he’s one of my favourites because we’ve seen him as angry, slightly childish, witty and impulsive. We only need more experience watching Whittaker’s acting before we make a concrete judgement. Anyway sorry for my rant.
YES you hit the nail on the head , plus there has been far too many episodes where they always end up in victorian england which is very boring, love the old doctor whos from the 70s heheh
@@jeerapaul 60s were the best. We'd only seen serieses made in the States, up 'til then. After Troughton it went downhill, like the Dr had enrolled in Drama School and found the costume box. Eccleston brought that edgy, very likely psychopathic alien back and Tennant brought an even colder and lethal rage, in between some hilarious quips, against those that tried to hurt his beloved hairless apes. Since then it's regenerated back to theatrics. I waited around thirty-six years for the Dr to regenerate and, hopefully not, I'll wait as long again for his return. 🎶Ti-i-i-ime is on my side, yes it is🎵
Heck they could have aloted more time about The Doctor's gender confusion, as it has been astablashed Time Lords can change gender, the confusion could come from this being the first time for the doctor. Almost like the introduction of 11th and his confusion with taste and almost everything else about himself.
when I watched the first episode of new who with my dad in 2005 the first thing he said was ‘I used to hide behind the couch when watching this’ I always thought hiding behind a couch was strange too
I kind of assumed that couches in the UK where for some reason, not up against the wall like every couch I ever saw in real life here in the states. :)
80 minutes. I thought this was too long. Then I remember: "wait, this is Chibnall's run, it sucks so much it could be three hours long". Thanks for making a good video on this subject and not all of that "PC BBC is ruining Doctor Who with diversity" shit. It's not The Left, my dears, IT'S BAD WRITING.
The far left communistic lunatics are a problem just as much as the alt right facists either side are extremists and hate the actual right and left wingers for speaking out against them and their cult like delusional politics
If it was bad writing though it would be like other times the show had bad writing, so it's not just that and everyone needs to admit it, before this show dies a horrible, painful, slow and weak death
Phew, I was already wondering if I should watch the video or not, because I really don't have time to listen to the same "diversity SUCKS!!" complaint.
@@TheRealUnkn0wn_289 Hm? Except it very often is. People who hate diversity because of their conspiracy that Jews want to mix races. Stupid shit like that.
Brilliant mate. You've pointed out how a long running show cannot keep it's quality by hiring directors, producers and script writers who've NEVER watched the show. Your critique of this new season and direction of this show is based on your love of Doctor Who. These people running this show have no idea what they are writing about nor do they really care about good writing.
I stopped watching Doctor Who before Peter Capaldi became the Doctor (actually right around the Matt Smith changeover), and have only seen a few episodes here and there.
3:24: 50 Years Ago I Was Dead 11:09: Chibbys First Day At School 31:07: Should The Doctor Be A Chick? 40:53: Talking Bout Issues 58:13: The Chibnall Package 1:14:10: What’s The Deal With Doctor Who
doctor who used to feel like an escape but now it feels like I’m having education forced down my throat,, don’t get me wrong I agree with all their messages but it just doesn’t have the same wonder and edge it did before
Oh wow. A whole hour and a half of creamy diarrhoea. If you honestly call THIS poo ‘content’, then you need to get your head checked. My channel has more nuanced Doctor Who reviews and my videos are thicker and dencher. Your channel is a graveyard and I’m the bullet that put you there. 💀💀☠️💀
NitPix and DikPix, if I told you two to just hook up and get it over with, would that pretty much be your teenage years all over again?
Yeah but your handle is 'dikpix' and no ones gonna subscribe to that
I like how ya take the piss out of your own channel, but you're right, an hour an a half is way to fuckin long for something I already know is shit. I watched 2 eps and I was done with this season of Dr Who
I absolutely _love_ this creamy diarrhea. All warm and moist, sliding down the back of my throat.
Diarrhea.
So it doesn't suck because it's political, it sucks because it sucks.
the political bits could have been bloody awesome had it been handled properly, even if people disagree with some of the political opinions expressed.
That's unfair, it sucks on each and every level so completely, to single any one element out for total suckage is invidious and does a gross disservice to all the other elements which suck asshole to infinity in their own right.
Marie Knaapen The political bits should not be there. It’s spreading sexist propaganda and FORCED “diversity” and “inclusiveness”
@@oliviakirby1409 you sure do love hyperboles
@@madeleineharp370 "muh SJW propAgAnda!!111!!" take off the tinfoil lad 💀
Imagine if the Doctor would have been a lovely old lady that gets out of situations with wit and charm
Ngl I'd actually like to watch that
Wit, charm, and modest brilliance would be great. Oh; I guess I'm thinking above my station -- do you think Dame Helen Mirren has the makings of this Doctor?
That would legitimately be a great "first woman Doctor". Sweet old grandmas can go undetected and underestimated. So many ways to make good episodes around that.
@@aliceiscalling I know!!! just imagine her quickly taking her sonic screw driver out of her purse and saving the day!!
Alas, the whole idea of Chibnal's mess has plainly been to appeal to young people -- a fresh new audience to gorw up with new Doctors and stick with them forever. An older man is fine; an older woman -- ? Hell, no! Stupid, stereotype-bound, commercially limited decisions got us here. I don't think I'm going to live long enough to see the show grow back to itself -- assuming it lasts at all.
I loved the part where 13 kept saying "nO gUnS" but then lured a bunch of spiders into a room to starve to death and let another one painfully suffocate. Real solid moral compass.
Also: detonated DNA bombs in Tim Shaw, and then the person being targeted by Tim Shaw for murderizing pushes him off a crane, so she says "you had no right"
That made NO sense
And then killed a TEENAGER who wanted better rights and yes he was doing something bad but she never punishes the ai who killed an innocent girl instead of getting more help
woke left don't have a moral compass that's the problem
@@travisgray8376 The right isn't much better
I just realized the racial discrimination scene perfectly demonstrates what’s wrong with Whitaker’s doctor. Can you imagine ANY of the other doctors reacting so passively to Ryan getting assaulted the reaction should be like when the tenth doctor loses it at the dad yelling at him in that one with the alien tvs.
contrast fem who to capaldis who who punched out a guy just for making a comment towards Bill for being black.
whittekers weak woman dr just stood there while far worse occurred.
women are warriors against oppression, right?
it seems the limp wristed bbc only want to point at racism, instead of actually portraying someone actually confronting it.
You know what’s really messed up? 13 uses similarly racist language to Ryan when she first meets him. She calls him “boy”, which is used racially against Black men in America. The racist guy in Rosa calls him “boy” as well.
As soon as I heard her say that, I cringed. She could have said any other word. Lad. Fella. Gent. Anything else. But she says boy. I love when woke people trip up and expose themselves.
@@hothotheat3000 that's a real stretch. Even if that's true it's not even an American show.
@boris steve I'm not surprised. Just disappointed
@@hothotheat3000 The term boy doesnt have the same racial connotations here, that's a silly point.
So basically, the wrong Dr Who fanboy got the job.
Just like Rian Johnson was for Star Wars. Say what you want about JJ and Force Awakens, you can tell that he genuinely love Star Wars, all its flaws and beauty. For Johnson it felt like he likes it as well maybe even love it but wants to change it completely for the sake of being different and make it "better" while ultimately leading nowhere. I feel Chibnall is the same way. Both these people either just want to be different for the sake of being different or they just don't get the franchise they have.
Yeah, I don't really know what does Chibnall liked from Doctor Who, he is just writing as if it is any other show.
@@nostalgiatrip1 In some ways, there's still even a bit of the 'good' in there as well, as arguably Rogue One's the best of the new lot, with some good stuff of it's own that doesn't feel like rehashes or 'subvert expectations'.
@@gratuitouslurking8610 2/3 of the original trilogy stories were about blowing up the death star, anyone who complains about rehashing story in startwars has as much idea of what makes starwars good as Rian Johnson does.
It's a space opera, just like in soap operas the overall story doesn't matter it's only there so we can see characters interact, every single Iconic moment from starwars is about characters and JJ understood that's why at the end of the force awakens all you have is questions about characters, Who's snoke? who are rays parents? where is luke? ect, while when you have an generic action story like in the last jedi the only real question is "Why are they making another movie after this?" because the rebels have lost, there is no way to recover without some stupid bullshit like finding a lost rebel fleet somewhere and there are no questions about the characters.
Rogue one was a good action movie, but it's not a space opera like episodes 1 to 7, Though i would be happy for them just to abandon the main series and just make decent spin offs like this and not trying to bait people in like they did Solo: The story no one asked for.
@jason lewis Well yea, it's a trilogy, he was writing it as one, the only mainline stand alone Star wars movie is Star Wars (A New Hope) because it was never intended series.
Basically everything you mentioned doesn't matter, not trying to be rude but, watch the first 3 movies and they tell you fuck all about the political state of the galaxy or how they manage to build 2 death stars so quickly.
Sure the prequels gave us a shit ton of lore but, people hated them...well until TFA and TLJ came out, now I only see people talking about how good they are, disney basically sat down JJ and told him to stay the fuck away from anything that even remotely looked like the prequels, so that's why there isn't even a hint of lore in the movies.
JJ did fine setting everything up, it was rian that fucked it, was TFA a master piece, no but nether was A new hope which is weakest of the original trilogy and I'm not even going to mention how god awful the phantom menace was compared to clone wars and return of the sith.
Can we all stop and acknowledge that Chibnall has accomplished one thing that's pretty impressive. Got Davies fans and Moffat fans to agree on something. True, it's the fact that he sucks worse than either, but still!
It really annoyed me how hard people were on Moffat towards the end, sure his overarching storylines were hit and miss, but even in the weaker seasons in that respect (6,7 and 9) there were some great individual episodes.
@@andybyrd4107 Moffat's troubles started with 12 - or more accurately 12 and Clara. Clara shined with 11, because they were both equally as...manic. But 12 was far calmer and poised (guitar solos on tanks not withstanding) so the two characters just grated against each other.
I liked Bill, but before too long, Moffat started trying to cram 2 episodes worth of plot into a one episode slot.
But overall, I agree - it was mostly Davies fans that were trashing him for the most part. Probably because he trolled them a bit with how he handled Amy and 11 (in contrast to 10 and Rose freaking Tyler)
@@digitalutopia1 I preferred Clara with Capaldi because in her first series she was just copying Matt Smith and the show already had a character like that. I think the conversation in the cafe where they both lie to each other about being happy and everything working out should have been the last we saw of her though. That would have been poignant and meant something.
@@andybyrd4107 It's funny you say 6, 7 and 9 where the weaker season, becuase I think the exact opposite. 5, 8 and 10 were the weakest, and 6, 7 and 9 were decent overall.
Alon More What do you mean?
"A cheeky man in a leather jacket" sums up the ninth spot on
I loved that from Eccleston by the way - “That won’t last, he’s gay and she’s an alien.”
😂
Yes. This is what I want. Feed my hate for bad writing.
That the problem, series 11 is poorly written. The actors involved are proven good actors so it's unfortunate to see the potential for new and interesting stories being totally squandered
@@themadhammer3305 how do you like peices of cinematic work where the actors write about their charicter living and enjoying, and disliking things and even episodes with them as their character helping drive the story
@@VincentGonzalezVeg well to use a previous doctor who character as an example. the actor who played Wilfred Mott had input on how the character was written, the scene where he talks about being in Palestine in 1948 was a real experience of the actor who played Wilfred. In my opinion scenes like that help make a character feel like a real person, obviously not every scene can be improvised but actor input on their character and being given a bit of Lee way to improvise usually does work quite well
Here's something an actual critic might do: Explain why the earlier seasons worked and this one didn't. Instead of assuming everyone's a sexist because of a stunt to boost ratings (that failed).
@@mariokarter13 What are you talking about?
Is it me or does season 11 feel separate from all of the rest of the revived doctor who
Agreed!!
Separate from mainstream scifi, but cloned from political broadcasts.
That was the point. It was meant to bring in lots of new people to the series.
As long as Chibnall is showrunning, I'm gonna treat it like a spin off.
its an entirely different show, a mere shadow of its former self, dr who in name only
Imagine criticizing a show then directing it just making it worse.
Those that can, do. Those that can’t, critique. 🤣
@@Nevir202 And Chibnall can't even critique!
Nickolas Ganadakis lol
@@lyravain6304
*Chinballs,* love-child of the Daleks and Slitheen!
@@Nevir202 this is exactly why i went from criticizing garbage isekai novels with over-sexualized heroines to writing a series of garbage isekai fantasy novel with over-sexualized heroine.
Racism was adressed in "Family of blood", where noone believes that Martha could be a doctor, because she's a black woman. It gives her a good moment to stand her ground and is generally pretty well written.
thank you, I remember her naming all the bones of the hand
Yea it also wasn't preaching at you it showed it didn't say explicitly something because that is boring.
Like we always say, "It's not the the fact that she's a woman that's the problem, it's that she's a poorly written character that happens to be a woman."
Don't use your gender as your most important feature.
@Matrix29bear Did you even watch the video? Yikes...
@Matrix29bear Who hurt you
Tell that to Chibnall and Whittaker
What i find to be wrong is it brakes the story of the 13th doctor as seen in the show , The 13th Doctor is broken a mess unsure what is good are bad anymore. It was going to be such a great story calling back to how ppl did see the 1th doctor. but as a woman is nothing not even knowing it till told or acting like.
@Matrix29bear That's not Jodie's fault. The writers made her like that.
yeah it's actually kind of insane how I went from being in love with this show to straight up not bothering with the new season. stopped episode 2 half way and haven't bothered to continue.
The thing that annoys me the most is that they dropped the whole lonely god complex that Davies really worked on. Tennants acting as a man who keeps running because if he stops he will relize how lonely he is is heartbreaking
I know this hasn’t got much to do about the comment but I just wanted to talk about how much I love the older episodes
@@thechazzler8934 The 10th Doctor and his adventures are straight up magical. I almost feel like that attitude and vibe Tennant brought to the role gave me a whole new lease on life, a new perspective, a new morality.
Fetus Sexytime the mix of humour, drama, and the overwhelming loneliness that the show use to display is radical
@@Xerophlume Fetus, Yes, that's authentic Doctor, to me, -- loneliness, and loss. Capaldi's version of this gave me a place to put my own feelings during the years that my husband was descending into Alzheimer's and death. I swear, if Capaldi's Doctor hadn't played it all out there in front of me, I think I'd have exploded with that kind of pain, the way people can. They say every fan eventually gets the Doctor they deserve; I'd loved Tom Baker and enjoyed Pertwee, but I think Capaldi helped me save my sanity.
@@thechazzler8934 so annoying that she calls them family... dude the doctor would never let that happen
I will never forget "nice to meet your Rose, RUN FOR YOUR LIFE"
who's rose?
"I'll never forget when the doctor what me." - Matt Smith, final words as The Doctor
@@themasteronhigh1665 YOUR rose!
@@pyxylation mhm, damn right. (wtf me)
MenacingScone "go have your lovely beans on toast" will be the last thing I remember before I die
Basically Dr. Who became the one thing that will kill any show: agressively bland. Bland writing, bland acting, bland music, bland cinematography. I'd rather watch a baseball player swing for the fences and sometimes miss than bunt every at-bat. It's just not thrilling to watch.
Maybe for a while, with the timeless child it seems to have escalated to pissing off fans :/
That's what this era of cancel culture's done. No one wants to offend anyone, so it's all sterile. Nothing pushes the envelope, or is exciting.
In short, it became politically correct. That's what kills creativity.
@@demitraferles7970 Not really. Firstly, I'm not sure how Doctor Who wasn't politically correct before. Like, you had that Silurian woman and the other woman having an on-screen snog in series 8, and Bill being black and lesbian, and some of the pro-worker (I can't think of a better word) lines that the Doctor had in series 10, like the bit in Thin Ice when he shuts down that posh racist guy.
Secondly, I think it's just that the writing was not good. None of the characters felt like real people, or different people for that matter, motivations for doing anything important rarely made sense, the villains were uninteresting, let alone unthreatening and the dialogue was just truly _awful._ Even if the Doctor had been a guy as normal, she would have still been grossly unDoctorlike. She had giant spiders starve to death, murdered that Amazon worker guy in cold blood, got the Master sent to a concentration camp, and was utterly pathetic in hiding behind her so-called "social awkwardness" as an excuse not to comfort Graham about his cancer worries.
The acting was similarly dull, although I suppose we can blame that on the absence of real characters to act out, and the music wouldn't even fit a department store lift.
I can tell you, as someone who watched series 11 and 12, that it doesn't have anything to do with politics, especially not when the only things it really gets right are "racism is bad" and "climate change is bad". The show just happened to be shite.
Love how this one review of season 11 was more interesting than season 11 itself
Frrrr
Truuuuuuuuu
Ooooooooooof
I didn't even notice how long it was until I was in the half of the video, haha. It is a good review.
@Matrix29bear so youre getting so much sex and have so many women coming your way that you feel Jodie Whittaker is unattractive? Or maybe just maybe you mocking her is your way at getting back at her for.......
a) ruining the show with diversity= adding cast member that you can't relate too.
b) having the cheek to bring all her womanly essence to this most manly of shows( even thought most of the recurring cast since the reboot have been female.)
c) the bad writing...... this is Doctor Who we still talking about right?
d) or maybe some of you hate the fact that she a woman because you can't relate to her and but you can relate to an near immortal alien with two hearts and who shows more compassion than most of you are showing in this comment section.
e) your a virgin and an incel who knows deep down you don't have a chance with most women because of who you are inside and out and calling them ugly is your way getting back someone who doesn't even know your alive.
19 year old Chris Chibnall is that annoying video game reviewer from Bandersnatch
LMAO
Lol
HE'S THE ANGRY DR WHO NEEEEEEERRRRRDDDDD
He also looks like the hemroid on my outer rim
Haemorrhoid. (sorry I swallowed a medical dictionary 33 years ago)
Season 10, The Doctor's companion is insulted by a racist this angers the Doctor enough for him to knock the guy out. Season 11, the Doctor's companion gets a slap in the face and the Doctor doesn't even give one of her telling off.
This is an example of one of the things I really hate about the Chiball era, there's no way the Doctor would be so chilled out about someone under their care being assaulted, this was a great opportunity for the new Doctor to go dark and be a badass but nope she apparently has less teeth than Nardole..
Whittaker's Doc, however he's written, has no passion. She's just like one of those boring characters in "Broadchurch", which literally put me to sleep, the people were so dull.
Less teeth than Nardole, at least when he was talking about kicking the Doctor's ass
@@ichabod1370 It seems that with her they were like "Well she's the first female doctor, what else does she need?"
As a woman I was all for a female doctor but like she needs a personality too you know?
Nobody has any personality here. The doctor, the companions, they're all so boring. What a disappointment.
plus whittaker's doc straight up blames ryan kinda and then ignores him
Thank you Anakin
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"I watched all of Who for this video"
Dang a few seasons must have ate up a good week or two-
"And I mean ALL OF WHO"
Oh lord, how did you survive?!
Getting through some certain episodes must have been pretty painful.
Hartnell, Troughton, Pertwee-hit-or-rmiss, fast forward, Eccleston, Tennant... *The End.*
All in, about 13 years.
Anything else was drivel.
All aboard the Tardis and mind the doors, please!
😜😂
Regeneration obviously
He has earned his no life badge
@@billyandrew Fuck off mate
I remember crying like a grown man should when I watched the Van Gogh episode, it was a heartbreaking experience.
That's my favorite episode.
Re watched recently. Cried again. Arguably one of the best episodes ever.
TimStamper Honestly that scene where Van Gogh is crying in the gallery and then when Amy comes back and realises that even with their help he still killed himself broke me as it shows how depression can't be solved with one act and the like.
Omg same
It was so good I keep on misremembering it as a Tennant episode.
I was surprised by just how much the music thing bothered me. You don’t appreciate some things until they’re gone😩
a god man goes to war, i am thedr, all the strange creatures..became benchmarks for the show.
there is nothing now
That's heartbreaking to hear.
Honestly Murray Gold was a genius and I think it is in fact the biggest loss of the entire show’s history. Apart from the doctors dick. I imagine the next male doctor will feel pretty good when he has that back
@@TommyLednorMusic Ummm, yikes? Wtf.
@@crossface5710 Doomsday, This is Gallifrey and Clara's Theme are all incredible too. Murray Gold is honestly one of the best composers ever.
The only season arc was basically: "oh do you remember that guy in the first episode? well he's in the last episode too."
@@ELSHERBINY tooth face
It's like those low budget crappy music videos where the first scene is the same as the last scene to try and add some sense of continuity even though there isn't any. At all.
Cuttlefish?
@@Ragnar_Aevarsson BIG ONION~
I agree with everything you've said about Chibnall, but I disagree - it does matter. The BBC should find a better show runner. One who understands the elements you pointed out.
*Chinball
@CK Lim No it's Chinball
@@Haispawner Both, BBC Diversity Act 2016.
@Haispawner It wasn't funny the first time, fuck off.
Doctor- yeah we're all gonna die
Yaz- That's fine we have eachother.
Like bish w0t
Johnny snowden stuck in the outreaches of space on a hostile alien planet and your only means of escape had no chance of reappearing. Yes, the Doctor would definitely go, "it's fine, it doesn't matter, this planet will kill us and you're thousands of light years from home, but it doesn't matter, we'll be fine." Remember when the Eleventh Doctor said: "Yes, if we lie to her, she'll get all better."
@@samuelbarber4154 it’s more the fact that the companions do not give a shit. They unwillingly got teleported into deep space, suffering oxygen deprivation, got shot at by robots, and still don’t really care or are angry towards the doctor in ANY way. They literally just accept it. There’s no character conflicts. Imagine Rose, Martha or Donna having this happen on their first “accidental” outing. The Doctor would get a right slap. Maybe it’s bc she’s a woman it would seem too old fashioned to get angry at her. Unpopular opinion I know
I’m going to watch an hour and a half long video on a show I don’t watch.
Let’s go!
Same here
Holy shit just saw the lenght. I guess it makes us three
Nobody else watches either.
Yeah i didn’t watch it too
@@lukeism2 I watched the first ep
"i reformatted your phone" she says, matter of factly. "all my stuff's on there!" he says, obviously dismayed. "not anymore!" she replies pitilessly and obnoxiously; like she LOVES the fact he's upset. because yes, THAT'S endearing. everyone loves a bully.
I know I'm late, but I completely agree. Screwing with someone's stuff, taking joy in their dismay and showing no remorse is sociopathic behavior, not friend teasing.
Writers don't know how to make female leads a strong character anymore, they gotta bring down everyone else to bring a lady up.
@@aubreykosch4227 To be completely fair, Peter Capaldi took Matt Smith's social awkwardness and increased it to sociopathic levels without having Smith's eccentric charm to balance it out. The Doctor being sociopathic didn't start with Whittaker. At times, Capaldi felt like the Valeyard, which I would be more forgiving of if the Valeyard had actually been ACKNOWLEDGED while the Doctor was in his sociopathic phase. Instead Moffat waited until his last episode, long after Capaldi had grown out of that phase, to mention that the Valeyard existed and even then it was just a throwaway line.
The loss of Murray Gold is the worst thing to happen to NewWho
Agree. The music was a character in itself
True!! Film scoring (well tv) is so underrated
Ikr! I didn't realise it till lately, but i went back and watched some older episodes and there is a serious difference
Oh my gosh is that that Leo Mc Chizzle!
Some of the classics also had really memorable music but I see what you mean.
Joanna Lumley was the Doctor for 90 seconds in a Comic Relief sketch. In that time she gave more personality and character to the Doctor than I saw in the entire last season.
I can't tell you what Wittakers Doctor is, what quirks she has, etc. except her being female. I can't tell you about the personality of her companions other than "Old guy" "Clumsy guy" and "girl." I couldn't give you a summary of a single episode from the entire season. It was just bland.
Thanks for the heads up.
I only watched young Smith as the Dr, because of young Pond's incredible acting.
I somehow doubted a female Dr would do well, because Chibnal is incapable of writing a strong female role.
I've heard her performances were tepid.
Personally, I expect an alien of the Dr's calibre to both amuse and terrify me, which is why my respective placings would be Tennant, Eccleston, then Hartnell.
The Dr is fond of our species, but brooks little nonsense from us.
Is preachy moralizing and bad acting considered "quirks"?
Guy who looks like he should be the Doctor, woman who looks like she should be a smart and capable companion without being a Mary Sue for a change, obligatory token black guy, random East Indian chick because BBC.
Agreed. This is what happens when you cast people based on their sexual organs rather than their talent
@@stone-ageraccoon1157 Exactly. They have no personality other than their gender or skin colour. As a minority myself i am much more than simply those things, martha was a good example of this. She wasnt just a token black girl, she was a well developed memorable character.
"A lot of Doctor Who is getting through the schlock to get to those episodes which are really special"
That's the best description of the show I've ever heard.
So Dr. Who is a live-action anime with mostly filler, got it.
Why the hell were there 3 companion characters if they have no personality at all. It was like watching a bad harem anime >:(
shelby ladra but at least the side characters are hot girls even if they have bad personality
@@strawberryqueen0382 anime or doctor who wise ? because if its anime I can kind of agree to that
Chris was probably trying to take us back to old who, despite the fact that doctor who learned pretty quickly that having one companion is much easier to write a character for.
Doctor Who is my favorite Isekai protagonist.
True but I doubt that anyone watches harems for the plot and character development
It was Chibnalls view that the show wasn't challenging to watch!
Well he's successfully made it a challenge to watch now!
Lmfao.
Peter Moore - it’s painful to watch and listen! I’ll try watching DW minus audio... that should be a help!
It'll be getting complaints from jews and muslims next with all the ham acting. 😜😂😂😜
or rather, hes made it a show that only the most ardently challenged (ie, diverse) people will appreciate.
@@crossface5710 I am one of those people and I hate it.
I think the most annoying thing about this whole thing is that if you don't like the current writing/doctor then you are labeled as a ""TOXIC FAN""
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Remember when Britney Spears was playing on Doctor Who? The space Titanic episode? Toxic? Good times...
@@brycehampton8315 that... Wasn't Britney Spears. Kylie Monogue dear. But Toxic was played on the observation deck in season 1 episode 2
Jessica Emmas that was the episode I was referring to. I may have mixed them up...whichever one has Cassandra in it
Basically, Chibbs writes plot-driven stories instead of character-driven ones.
And not only do character-driven stories work better generally, it’s especially the case for Doctor Who because The Doctor, the companions, the monster and how they all interact based on the choices and themes in the episode is kind of the whole point of the show.
RTD and Moffat understood that in a way I fear Chibbs never will.
It's not f******** rocket science - GET RID OF CHIBNALL NOW!!!......
what plot?
No, he just wrote shite.
Plot driven is good. Aristotle agrees with me.
Chibnall just spews utter drek and I have no idea how he managed to do a Broadchurch.
Amen to that.
Tvs were smaller back then, so the couches were closer and not up against the wall so people could see. There you go, plenty of room to hide now.
@P A TV's still had to be plugged in and cords were shorter.
Also have you ever lifted a proper square TV and not a flat screen? Those things can be as heavy as a couch.
P A would you have your tv in the middle of the room?
Hide?
Don't hide just switch it off.
It's pure Dr Poo.
And yes being a Woman is a part of the problem.
The other parts being the crap stories and blatant PC BS.
Turn it off and it will go away, as it should.
Also since people tended to do parties and social things at home. the couch was away from the wall, allowing sideboards and table. and a place for people to gather all around. Europeans did this traditionally. the US too but not as much.
The only heating in the room was a fire, so the settee had to be reasonably close to it if you weren't going to get hypothermia. And, yes, I hid behind ours.
That comparison of Van Gogh and Rosa Parks episodes was spot on. Van Gogh still makes me cry everytime Bill Nighy praises him. I couldn't care less about Rosa when 13th spoke.
The show has lost its whimsical fun creepiness. Love Jodi, but am beyond sad the writing is so horrid for her. The writers ruined this all time favorite show.
Come back Neil Gaiman!
Its legitimately so frustrating too because we have seen those moments when jodi really shines through and i want so badly what she could do with someone decent to support her obvious skill as an actress
I love how during Moffat's tenure, everyone hated him, especially towards the end, but now he's gone, everyone's suddenly acting like he always struck gold.
Right?!
Imainge you have two choices between a lunch. One lunch is some crazy type of curry/different food you haven't had before and the other is a very very plain and boring sandwich. Not even a good normal. It may look kinda good but you can tell its not gonna be. I cant speak for you but im taking the curry
Generally unwise to look at something through rose-tinted glasses.
U don't know what U got til it's gone... But I always stand up for Moffat I prefer him to Russell t Davies any day
Moffat certainly didn't always strike gold (in fact I'd say he only did once on his own - series 5. Yes he wrote extremely good episodes for RTD, but his biggest failure is recognising which of his big ideas are stupid, and when he wasn't the showrunner, he had someone else to reign him in), but at least he didn't constantly drill straight through the bedrock.
You know what, I didn't even realise one of the biggest reasons I disliked the new series: Daddy Murray is no longer doing the music. The music in Doctor Who has always been one of the most enjoyable parts of the show for me.
Definitely. The OST now is decent but I'm not a huge fan of when it gets all atmospheric and stuff.
You might have already seen the dr who at the promos youtube concert of the music.
My father had only watched the older Doctor Who once or twice growing up as it wasn't his type of show. I urged him to watch the Van Goph episode and he teared up at the final scene. The idea that Vincet was suffering from depression yet was able to see the impact he had in the world of art is beautiful and something to speak of even though he inevitably lost his fight. The message is strong but clear and to this day remains my favorite episode.
Fuck me, I forgot about the Van Gogh episode that ending was so intense.
Brilliant episode, nitpix didn't mention it and i could have imagined it but i remember taking away an implication that the doctor taking him to the future was the final straw which caused Van Gogh's suicide which added to the (already heavy) emotional impact of that ending
Fuck yes it's the one episode I always think of when I think about why I love doctor who.
@@Cheesusful I thought something like that too, but it seemed that it was left as a bit question unanswered - which, imho, is the best way. You are left wondering if it was because or despite of the Doctor.
Bill Nye was the guy at the end if that episode. Still doing his acting thing pretending to be a scientist.
@@kevinbonin6173 True.
Chibnall: Don't challenge me, fans, because I'm a completely new showrunner. I could bring down your "Doctor Who" with a single word.
Fans: You're the worst writer and showrunner we've ever met, but we don't think you're quite capable of that.
Chibnall: No, you're right. Not a single word, just six.
Fans: We don't think so.
Chibnall: Six words.
Fans: Stop it!
Chibnall: Six.
Chibnall goes over to BBC and shows this:
Chibnal: The Doctor is the timeless child!
Fans: What did he say?
BBC: Oh, well, nothing, really.
Fans: What did he say?
BBC: Nothing. I don't know.
Fans: Chibnall, Chibnall, what did you? What was that? What did he do? What did you say, Chibnall? Chibnall! You stupid...
😂😂😂
You've commented this a whole lot of times, and it's still funny
Remember guys NoThInGs ChaNgEd
God damn this is funny
12 revealed that he is a hybrid right towards the end so the doctor being part time lord and part whatever makes sense to me. I wish more people would look at this show with more love and understanding. It's debatably the greatest TV show in the world and the longest running so just imagine the pressure on Chris Chibnall and the new writers to deliver. They're all trying to fill gigantic shoes here and the show did grow stronger from season 11 to 12. I've grown to love Jodie and I'm still giving these writers and Chris a lot of slack. All the negative criticisms might do more harm than good.
Strap in everybody. Looks like we're in for a Chib Nib Quadruple Bill, so let's get Chibby in this Hibby.
Preston K. Productions Sir I will follow you through hell and back if you so will it
cool name
@SlytherinLumosMaxima 'Tis.
Wow, didn't expect to amass a cult of five so easily.
@SlytherinLumosMaxima Thank you, thank you. It took a lot of no effort.
The way the music sounds makes me think that Chris Chibnall is using the free version of some random music program and using barely anything from it.
I really hope that Murray Gold will come back for the 60th. I can't imagine a episode with 10, 11, 12 without The doctor forever, I am the doctor and A good man.
To sum this whole video up in two words why current Dr. Who is a mess:
*BAD WRITING*
and music... I didn't really realize it until he pointed it out but yes the music is just so bland and music is important.
It really is missing the music parts, which were so crucial.
Good God Holmes you solved the case! :D
The only character development Yaz got was she changed her hair every episode.
6:55
Master: *"I HATE YOU"*
Doctor: "You were a brother to me Master. I loved you."
Master: (screams in agony)
YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE MASTER!, YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO DESTROY THE DALEK NOT JOIN THEM!
but they were gay lovers
@@razlad2523 So maybe like a Lannister-Family-like love? :D
That all changed when he became Missy
@@razlad2523 let's not J. K. Rowling's the doctor just yet. The tenth doctor believes he (essentially) killed all other time lords. If the Master lives, he did not commit full genocide of his own people.
“Everyone just entertained themselves, with sticks... and racism.” Lmfao.
Everything is sexist and everything is racist and you just have to point it out
Goveber buy it Sarkesian law
Why get so triggered when someone points out that people in the past were racist by our standards? We should be able to look back and laugh because we've progressed.
Yes there was more cultural racism, but forgetting that the cultural change against racism began in the 60s, so must have been doing something right. “Everyone in the past was racist” is just an oversimplification of the past to feel smug about who you are today. But whateverervereverever
@@ThemeParkChomp That's how jokes tend to work. Oversimplify something to maximize the reaction.
I'm so glad you mentioned the change of composers. The music in the doctor who was one of the main reasons why I loved the show but since they changed composers every scene in the new season just feels really empty.
bring back murray gold
I can't begin to describe my frustration with various situations where 13 basically just shrugs her shoulders at the villain, especially when similar confrontations created some of the best moments for previous Doctors. I want a 13 'Captain Runaway' speech or just an episode where she comes across as someone I should actually listen to. She's an incredibly passive protagonist.
perfect analysis, actually: in order to address the division in the audience, they played it as safe as humanly possible in an attempt to not piss off either side. yet ultimately what that resulted in was not pleasing either side either - EVERYONE just saw it as almost violently mediocre.
My brother would say "that is what sjw's do to everything they touch." I like to think this is what happens when you make art for money not art for art.
Dryice 2199 lol, like your political persuasion has anything to do with your writing ability.
@@entertain7us148 It does if you believe your political party would eat you alive if you said anything that doesn't fit the narrative. This is what is happening were I live. Everyone is acting like their poo doesn't stink. And, when someone just happens to smell it, they mark you with the scarlet letter. Thank goodness I'm illiterate.
Dryice 2199 I spose. That was truly poetic. That was my original point tho - trying desperately not to offend anyone on either side so being just mediocre enough to actually end up pissing off both sides. If that reflects any political position at all, it’s probably centrism.
"they played it as safe as humanly possible in an attempt to not piss off either side"
You've got Chibnall practically boasting that a chunk of his (uniformly leftwing) cadre of writers now partly comprise of individuals hired because they ticked boxes rather than were proficient in their craft.
You've got the ever noxious, charisma-free Whittaker frequently gassing on about muh feminism via interviews instead of promoting the show.
You've got practically every episode of the season dedicated to ramming various facets of _far_ Left ideology down the audience's throat at the expense of the ingenious escapist entertainment they so desperately want.
You've got elements of the leftwing media blatantly shilling for the show SOLELY because of _ideological_ expediency.....
(phew)
.....and you're intimating that Doctor Who is failing because it attempted to placate all 'sides'?!
Well each to their own and all that but nah.
*"Everyone in the 60's entertained themselves with something dumb like sticks or racism"*
*"It's not like they could switch the channel and watch something MORE INTERESTING"*
True, because they didn't know how to get to the moon or pass anti-discrimination laws or create music.
I miss racism.
Big Boy Dan Cannon whOoOoOooOah
@@bigboydancannon4325 r/WOOOOOOSH
I lost count of how many times I snapped my fingers, pointed at the screen, and thought, "Yes. That."
13 is just a lazy mash up of both 11 and 10 but with none of the heart or charisma that they had
The new Doctor gives me the same feeling as when corporations use memes in adverts. That's what she's like, funnyxdlol kind of "humour".
She’s the “Lol so random XD” Doctor
@@trial_with_an_error9687 She would unironically use 'lol' in spoken conversation. If she hasn't already.
TheGrouchyGamer its funny because the 11th doctor did that once
To be fair, she was following someone who did a bit of that. Guitar battles in the medieval times anyone? The problem is.. one of these was better written than the other and the actor is much better suited for it. Chibnall tried to pick up where it was left without being a good writer or having good writing staff and an actress who just doesn't fit that type of character. It's a shame, they could have done better with what they were given.
@@Folsomdsf2 The 12th doctor was the biggest shame of its time, and some of the moments like the one you mentioned just made me slam my face into a door.
"I've been mostly playing Raid the newest and freshest mobile RPG..." *shudder*
Yeah, I kinda tuned the video out after that. That was some hardcore shilling.
@@dyveira because god forbid if a guy tries to make money right?
The Shillening.
@@Solisus starting the video with "this is sponsored by X" and then his message about the sponsor, would been better than this random lets pretend its natural
after that i stopped watching
Vincent and The Doctor - An episode that makes me fucking cry every time I see it because it's so powerful. One of the best Who episodes ever penned.
Rosa - I dunno, it's racism I guess.
One of the best episodes of anything
Still cry every time I see the ending of Vincent and The Doctor.
I'd put Kylie dying at Christmas up along there, too.
Pathos can be a real kick in the nuts!
Who else is rewatching to cope with "the timeless child?"
My favorite example of Murray Gold's genius was the Amy/Rory motif throughout the first half of Series 7. It slowly builds on itself through several episodes until it reaches a climax of full statement with choral part when Amy and Rory jump from the roof in The Angels Take Manhattan.
Yes!! I agree!
“My Gran fell off a crane! STORY TIME! ***NOT CLICKBAIT*** iPhone give away! “
🤣🤣🤣😂🤣🤣
Short version: The writing sucks. It's Chibnall's fault.
Yes.
@Sebastian Thor be a bit more specific, I don't follow
not only chibnall, but whoever gave him the authority.
But its one hour long because people can't see the obvious
It's a Moffat situation again. Chibnall wrote 42, The Hungry Earth/Cold Blood, and a bunch of Torchwood episodes, which are all good stories, but he's not that good a showrunner, it seems
“I can’t even objectify the doctor” that is somehow the best description someone has ever given on the 13th doctor. Shows how little personality she has. Like 10th and 11th have some type of personality and “quirk”.
I hate the music. I hate how every episode has some statement it is making. I hate how 13 has no personality. I hate how they are wasting historical figures for shoutouts, only using them to seem ‘woke’. What was the point of Ada Lovelace being in Spyfall?! I would have loved an episode like The Unquiet Dead with her in it but the plot was so dull and lifeless.
Pretty much the only thing I like about the new seasons is Ryan and Graham.
All the best episodes have a statement they’re making, especially left wing ones, it’s a big part of the shows history, the difference is just that these episodes don’t do it very well.
@@Noah-po2cr left wing yes, but still in good taste and not literally calling the other side Nazis, racist or whatever the ism of the week is, Doctor who used to respect both sides, now it only preaches to one.
Just compare how 13 uses historical figures to how others use them, every episode I watch has some political message.
11 included Hitler for gods sake, they just put him in cupboard showed distain and carried on. That was a good episode.
Hell there's a scene now where 13 describes her change as an 'upgrade' despite contradicting the fact that Timelords surpassed concepts like this a long time ago.
It's all just a mess with the focus on a political message rather than having a good story. Have a good story then add in a political message.
@@jakechinn6561 yeah never liked how the 13th uses historical people to push agenda's. in the older seasons they where just well themselves part of the furniture.
pinkchihua Ada Lovelace being in spyfall was so odd, they just seemed to clutter up what started as an interesting modern day story. Also they had Lovelace and Babbage but only treated Ada Lovelace as being important, it seems like they are trying to ignore one persons achievement so they can make a woman seem like the main creator. They were both important and deserved more than to be shoehorned in to an unrelated episode.
The best message doctor who has had was Martha in Elizabethan London, mentioning that people may notice that she’s black only for the doctor to effectively say people won’t care. It let Martha be something more than her race as she could actually develop a personality, while also having a great message that you shouldn’t care about someone’s race.
To compare that message with today, it’s as if we’ve taken a step backwards far from the policy of letting people be people everything is aimed at going look at that minority they need help and extra representation because they definitely are incapable of doing something themselves, then getting angry at white people for thinking this isn’t fair.
It’s fine to have a message, but if you’re making people take a step back and go what you have fucked up, the best message is one that someone watching in the future won’t notice like the Star Trek kiss between Kirk and Uhura, massive then but something without knowing the context doesn’t seem unusual for the plot. The recent poisoned planet episode which SPOILERS turns out to be earth because writers are predictable, was so on the nose about climate change it’s ridiculous, we know it’s a problem don’t patronise us.
From what I recall, 9, 10, 11, and 12 had reasons for being.
Recovering from the war, wanting to reject a past self and just adventure, cutting loose on his enemies, and eventually accepting what was and looking older again...or something like that.
Writing aside, maybe this version just doesn't have a reason to be. Maybe that's why it feels "meh."
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR BEING THE FIRST PERSON TO ACTUALLY CREDIT MURRAY GOLD. I've downloaded every Dr Who soundtrack with him on it and I just adore his work. Such an underrated composer and definetly my favorite.
He is the man who composed "I Am the Doctot" right?
Darius Brown not just that, most of the S1 to S7 music o believe.
@@ludbud57 Sweet!
I watched this video from behind my couch.
I watched my dad and the milkmen from behind the couch.
Creation
I actually DID hide behind my couch, when I was Quebecker, from a Quebecker, child-friendly, production of some mind (that I had on DVD), of _Annie Brocoli_ :
I mean, it’s just that Annie lost his little friend, but she thought he was sitting right beside her, and when she realized it, the music became “DU-DUUUUH, TRAGIC !!!😱”; and then, she was growing more and more desperate and then ends the scary part by screaming his name to the sky, or smth...
Yeah, that DEFINITELY scared me a lot, lol ! And I haven’t been scared like that ever since, nor before
😂😂😂😂
Peeping through your closet you mean?
@King Peppy rats? Spiders? What? Not knowing is worse than knowing especially when you've already brought it to my attention.
What I hate the most about 13, is that there is nothing that ties the season together. Have a look at the crack in time or bad wolf, those made everything for together...
Chibnall criticized DW for not really challenging the audience way back when, and you can see how that viewpoint has influenced the latest season. Thing is, it's even less challenging now. The show just presents a black and white situation and tells you which one is the right one, then the credits role. I find it kinda funny.
Forgive me for saying this, but it sounds like politics. Remember everyone, the other side is evil, and wrong. They definitely don't all have unique and varied reasons for why they believe what they do. Every single person is either with you, or against you. There is no in-between, or gray area. Just listen to our side, we'll tell you what is right and wrong, and what to believe. Note that I'm not saying which side does this. That's because everyone does this, no matter the political side they personally adhere to. inb4 I'm obviously [insert political side opposite who ever is replying to me] so anything I say should be ignored, or is dangerous, or some other bullshit.
@@LeafMaltieze I'm not quite sure what you're getting at.
@@maxieprimo2758 Don't worry about it. Just annoyed with politics. It's fairly off topic, so this is probably not best place to discuss it.
@@LeafMaltieze thats how SJW's think and this season is the SJW season.
The challenge is to watch the show
Red Dwarf really had a diverse cast. Not only were two of the cast black, one of them was WELSH. Shocking.
It was also very cheap looking, but the charm of the cast made it shine!
Unfortunately the SJW's ruined it with their virtue-signalling quotas for token toaster characters.
Do you mean Robert Llewellyn? I don't think he's Welsh though. Back to Reality was filmed on Rhyl beach though, I know that because I watched them film it.
@@darrenbradleytwin according to wiki he is of welsh ancestry but he was born in Northampton
When I was a child I would watch Dr. Who then Red Dwarf soon channel 9(PBS) late at night. Some of my favorite memories.
"it's not like they could switch the channel and watch something more interesting"
*Meanwhile, the week of the JFK assassination.*
The day of Diana's death was an interesting one in the UK. Admittedly if it hadn't been a Sunday normal service might have been restored quicker.
For the first episode they should've had two competing aliens trying to kill Ryan.
Why Ryan?
Because he was the first person to touch the Mystery Fig.
No stupid timeless bombs that don't do anything, no stupid tentacle blob that doesn't do anything.
and ride a bike to escape, scrap that whole youtube channel sht, ask doctor to save grace when she got tardis back, give doctor a death cable instead of his phone because why not,...
Oh that’s actually interesting. The aliens could come from a planet where these hunting competitions are used to give status to different people. It would give the doctor this odd three way situation of 2 characters stopping each other from killing someone because they want to kill them themselves, while the doctor is stuck in the middle just trying to stop them both and save the person. What a fun way to introduce a new companion too, by having them at the center of a ridiculous sci fi alien society thing they can really reinforce their role as the grounded half of The Who dynamic who is meant to be a vessel for the viewer. It lets the doctor have a strong conflict and allows the doctor to have time with a new companion who can also have chances to show off why they would be a good and unique new companion.
As far as concepts for an episode, and more specifically a new series introductory episode, of doctor who I actually really love this idea.
@@willster2967
I'm of the opinion that the less complex the story, the more complex it can be.
If that makes sense.
@@ArlanKels
Yeah I agree with that. Like simplifying the story down makes it easier and more digestible to portray and understand characters and the world they’re in. There are examples of complex that work really well (like inception and honestly really any Christopher Nolan movie) but generally speaking simplistic story let’s you highlight the other aspects more clearly.
Well nonetheless the story in that episode was simple and yet somehow nonsensically dumb and it did not do a good job of using what simplicity was there to help focus on character and world building.
39:13 that is the blandest "we're all going to die" scene I have ever seen
"we got each othah"
oh, shut up Yaz. You are never there.
@@Pikabycolorz the question. The first question in the universe. "Yaz who?"
Always remember the ancient adage of Doctor Who fans:
"Doctor Who has always been shit, and I say that as a fan"
MrBosch3 You can’t get into an argument with a doctor who fan because we know it’s shit and that makes us more powerful 😂
But it was fun fairy-tail-ish shit!
Exactly.
It’s the opposite for me. No matter how hard I try, I cannot possibly hate or not enjoy any of it. Colin Baker? Passive enjoyment. Love and Monsters? At least slightly interesting. Sleep No More? Very passive enjoyment. It is not humanly possible for me to not like anything Doctor Who, which gets me in some very heated debates.
Jonathan Nicholls
It’s all garbage. Heated debate me Bich. Tell me why it’s gud becuz I’m genuinely interested... bitch.
Chibnall is notorious for over-saturating the story, with tons of things happening at once, without doing much with all of them. The kerblam episode was decent, but I wasn't really entranced with any of the others, and a lack of memorable moments. I agree he was trying to do something "different", and I enjoy something intriging that makes me think, but this series didn't scratch my itch.
At least it get very refreshing ending
@@ladrok97 yeah we got to watch an anti killing people character murder a kid
@@xyphos6790 I meant that WHOLE episode wasn't boring and easy to anticipate
"It''s wasn't really challenging to watch"
A. Well you've sure as hell has made it hard to watch, I can't even finish an episode without yawning
B. Why does Doctor Who have to be a challenge to watch?
Im still upset about Dirk gently getting cancelled.
Yeah me too
I've just binge watched both seasons and my hopes and dreams of watching season 3 were crushed the same day. Such a rollercoaster of emotions!
read the graphic novel 'Green Valley' written by the same writer as DG
Season 2 was much worse anyway
King Peppy
And the books are brilliant, Chloe.
45:00 no doctor I respected would've just stood there and said "I don't want any trouble." It's just painful how poorly they wrote poor Jody. I really hope they can right the ship, because this show has meant a lot to me.
it's already crashed and burned, that's like saying you can fix the titanic after it's already hit the seafloor.
This show has always known how to write good female characters: River Song, the first Clara, Missy, Amy... How come it suddenly forgot how to do that when its main character became female?
Better ask the writer...
"How come it suddenly forgot how to do that when its main character became female?"
It didn't.
The anti-Female Doctor propaganda that got circulated before the season started created a viewer bias before she ever hit the screen, and people are nit picking her more than the other female characters as a result.
There isn't really that much difference between her and any of the doctors that came before her.
She is very Matt Smith like
@@MrGreensweightHist hahahahaahh what? Are you mental? Ffs go watch this video again
@@kevk9306 I don't need this idiot's opinion.
I've been watching Doctor Who since Tom Baker's days.
@@MrGreensweightHist really you're telling me that you enjoyed the last couple of episodes that came out? You can't be serious..
I remember the Monday after Doctor Who episode Rose aired was our bin day, i happened to be going out to the shop as the guys who come along to empty the bins came round as far as my bins. Made a joke about getting eaten by a wheelie bin and they laughed even though they been getting those all day. Russell T Davis was a genius because he was able to get an every day object that you barely even notice is there, and make it suddenly scary.
Autons is a Robert Holmes creation, and Moffat is who make every day objets into monsters.
Do you remember when we hated Moffat?
Yeah, people hated him; because he killed off Amy and Rory.
I admit his first and second season started out pretty good then it got shit
nope
@@KitKat4Christ I still hate him and I couldn't care less about those two doofuses.
@@Humr666 At least they were part of the story, haha.
Season 11 has ruined Dr Who, for me.
Worst writing ever.
Worst acting ever.
Worst Showrunner ever.
Reckon I'll be waiting for the next Showrunner.
Did you forget about the 6th Doctor? You know.... the one that strangled his companion and never apologized for it.
@@Ubermensch9240 I don't care. I'd rather watch the worst episodes of the Classic series than endure season 11 again.
@@Ubermensch9240 6 is decent
Artie Rupinen honestly the sixth doctor’s existence gives me hope... if the series can survive that shit I’m hoping it can survive chibnall
I’d say five S12 a go, or at least the first few episodes of each new season, to see if it’s any good. Might be missing out in something good. Like It Takes You Away, which was a genuinely amazing story (save the frog bit, if you’re not into that) or Resolourion.
I don't watch Doctor Who, but I'm only 30 minutes into this video and I'm just like, "What?" How did Chibnell think his plot made any sense?
Chibnell probably doesn't employ any proofreaders...
Chris Chibnall in the 80's: Well I just think the stories are unbeliveable. 1st episode hmmmm, tentacle monster.
Throwback to when rhino people attacked a hospital on the moon and they all went unconscious and somehow the weak incapacitated people didn’t just die
That was lowkey a good episode too.
Such a good episode man
And it started raining upside down
That one is great fuck
@@mcbadrobotvoice8155 and some old lady gave a bunch of people the succ
Yeah, female Doctor is insanely inconsistent. Like in the giant spider episode where she won't let that guy kill the dying spiders (thus giving them a quick and merciful death) and instead lets them having a slow and painful death for no reason whatsoever.
In the first episode, it was okay for her blow up the bad guy but the crane operator pushing him off the crane was over the line. She is so all over the map.
Also, she has a go at Ryan for shooting at non-sentient robots that are trying to kill them but blows them up straight afterwards. And tries to justify it in a later episode by stating that she only destroys things that can be rebuilt.
@@adamsmart1075 Yeah, very inconsistent and sloppy.
@Joshua Simpson That was a bit different. The Doctor, as a character, had been dealing with U.N.I.T. off on for a long time (I think an early version with Stweart, not even a Brigadier yet first appeared during the second Doctor's time) and he had, in the past, had conversations with the people in charge about their tactics, to no avail.
I would also point out that: (1) Other people's lives were in danger and don't think the Doctor is going to demand that U.N.I.T. soldiers risk innocent lives going in unarmed and helpless and (2) most of the creatures U.N.I.T. faced were bulletproof or had a way to disable their guns so it was a moot point.
Seriously, I don' think there has ever been a "Doctor Who" episode with U.N.I.T. where their guns did anything but annoy the evil alien(s).
I would also say that is a far cry from "you can't shoot the giant spider, that's cruel, we'll just let it die a slow and painful death because it can' breathe or whatever.
The 13th doctors introduction was too rushed in my opinion. Even the companions were confused for a while.
MeghanIsBored exactly!
I didn't think the Rosa episode was very realistic.
The white racist people were really over the top, like hating black people was all they ever did or thought about. They didn't come across like they just too racist attitudes for granted, they seemed like enraged fantatics who thought about nothing but race.
Rosa herself was made to seem almost angelic, she was literally back lit when she first appeared. She was so saintly that she also didn't seem like a real person, any more than the furiously racist towns people did.
Also some of the depictions of events were misleading. The bus driver involved wasn't a screaming monster, he was more annoyed in a "look, I've got a job to do, why are you making a fuss?" kind of way according to actual accounts.
It was all made very cartoonish.
And the bad guy really was incredibly boring.
I actually joked as I was watching "is the bad guy going to be an evil space racist?"
And then it turned out he was.
@@gombocdimensional9050because it's ends up like Chinese Xianxia novels "a perfect human being" which we sure as Frick aren't, its just bad writing IMO
The 'villain' was so predictable... oh, look - it's a white man..... Yawwwwwwwwwwn
Season 11 is just bland
That's it, Bland.
*gordon ramsay wants to know your location*
the female doctor lacks presence.
@@GotoMaki4Micah that has a really cool looking dildo I mean Sonic screwdriver...
@@GotoMaki4Micah I would have loved the Dr to be Tilda Swinton. So disappointed with this one. She got the scatterbrain, that talks to much part of her role right, but sadly in a none entertaining way. I just don't want to listen to her. After the often to serious Capaldi, Swinton would have been ideal. Alien, new to being female,... - just perfect!
Jerrica Benton I think she’s got the right charisma and style, but we haven’t seen enough of her emotional power. Nearly all other Doctors (definitely all the good Doctors) had bursts of wrath and still had childish moments. The new series is good enough (some episodes needed better writing) but we need another one to see all the potential of Whittaker. I agree other series have been more iconic in fewer episodes but I was skeptic about Peter Capaldi at first. I really disliked him at first and thought the first episodes could’ve been better... but now he’s one of my favourites because we’ve seen him as angry, slightly childish, witty and impulsive. We only need more experience watching Whittaker’s acting before we make a concrete judgement. Anyway sorry for my rant.
It sounds like she's doing a bad david tennant impression..
I wanna like it but it’s on 69 likes and I don’t wanna ruin it
I stopped watching after matt smith left, david tennant was my FAVOURITE doctor, still is.
This looks like an utter mess.....no thanks
YES you hit the nail on the head , plus there has been far too many episodes where they always end up in victorian england which is very boring, love the old doctor whos from the 70s heheh
@@jeerapaul
60s were the best.
We'd only seen serieses made in the States, up 'til then.
After Troughton it went downhill, like the Dr had enrolled in Drama School and found the costume box.
Eccleston brought that edgy, very likely psychopathic alien back and Tennant brought an even colder and lethal rage, in between some hilarious quips, against those that tried to hurt his beloved hairless apes.
Since then it's regenerated back to theatrics.
I waited around thirty-six years for the Dr to regenerate and, hopefully not, I'll wait as long again for his return.
🎶Ti-i-i-ime is on my side, yes it is🎵
Billy Andrew
Oh joy. One of those fans.
Season 11: Because there's a difference between informing me, and beating me over the head with your message
Heck they could have aloted more time about The Doctor's gender confusion, as it has been astablashed Time Lords can change gender, the confusion could come from this being the first time for the doctor.
Almost like the introduction of 11th and his confusion with taste and almost everything else about himself.
Oh, cool another Doctor Who video, how long is this, twnty, thirty minutes?
Oh.
OH.
I’ll finish that for you
...YES
Zarbi Xii about an hour and twnty lol
Let's go.
O H
Read the ohs in Mr. Plinkett's voice....
when I watched the first episode of new who with my dad in 2005 the first thing he said was ‘I used to hide behind the couch when watching this’
I always thought hiding behind a couch was strange too
My dad's always said that too. Weird.
They can’t GET you behind the couch. If you just hide your face behind a pillow, they can see you but you can’t see them. LOGIC! 🤓
it's scarier in black & white
I kind of assumed that couches in the UK where for some reason, not up against the wall like every couch I ever saw in real life here in the states. :)
yeah but when I was a kid when the weeping angels came along i was hiding behind the sofa as well lol
80 minutes. I thought this was too long. Then I remember: "wait, this is Chibnall's run, it sucks so much it could be three hours long".
Thanks for making a good video on this subject and not all of that "PC BBC is ruining Doctor Who with diversity" shit. It's not The Left, my dears, IT'S BAD WRITING.
The far left communistic lunatics are a problem just as much as the alt right facists either side are extremists and hate the actual right and left wingers for speaking out against them and their cult like delusional politics
If it was bad writing though it would be like other times the show had bad writing, so it's not just that and everyone needs to admit it, before this show dies a horrible, painful, slow and weak death
Phew, I was already wondering if I should watch the video or not, because I really don't have time to listen to the same "diversity SUCKS!!" complaint.
@@maschaorsomething except that's never ever waht the argument is
@@TheRealUnkn0wn_289
Hm? Except it very often is. People who hate diversity because of their conspiracy that Jews want to mix races. Stupid shit like that.
Brilliant mate. You've pointed out how a long running show cannot keep it's quality by hiring directors, producers and script writers who've NEVER watched the show. Your critique of this new season and direction of this show is based on your love of Doctor Who. These people running this show have no idea what they are writing about nor do they really care about good writing.
Actually Chris Chibnall is a lifelong Doctor Who fan.
Still can’t write for jack shit tho lolllll
"So what I'm going to do in this video is unpack all season 11 and tell you everything I don't like about it".
Indeed ...
watching this video was better than watching the current season of doctor who
I stopped watching Doctor Who before Peter Capaldi became the Doctor (actually right around the Matt Smith changeover), and have only seen a few episodes here and there.
3:24: 50 Years Ago I Was Dead
11:09: Chibbys First Day At School
31:07: Should The Doctor Be A Chick?
40:53: Talking Bout Issues
58:13: The Chibnall Package
1:14:10: What’s The Deal With Doctor Who
I recommend to watch the whole video, he has really good points and facts.
doctor who used to feel like an escape but now it feels like I’m having education forced down my throat,, don’t get me wrong I agree with all their messages but it just doesn’t have the same wonder and edge it did before
same even though im a super die hard socialist i hate it when media preaches my own morals to me
I mean that's on par with the original show too, which was made in part to educate British youth
It's WOKE'D God save the Doctor"