Why Everyone HATES Yone | League of Legends
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This explained why I love playing Yone so much. As someone who doesn't care what my score looks like, it's good to have a champ I can rely on through thick and thin.
@@potterinhe110
Another negative about yone although also applies to yasuo to some degree is how much more difficult they make balancing ADCs just by existing anytime a change to ADC items occurs they have to also change yone so that it doesn't become to op
Yone Yasuo, Irelia and many oters are completly broken, WHY?
Melee with superior attributes, with RANGE OF RANGED CHAMPS, BARELY NO COOLDOWN ON SKILLs, CCS, ULTRA SUSTAIN OR DEFENSE, and MOBILIT THAT MAKE IMPOSSIBLE TO KEEP RANGE WITH MULTIPLE DASHES, becouse only one its not enogh for trash player.
Im done with this games.
Full of cheaters, SH it players doing sh it in the game, dont get banned or any kind of punishment, when you say hes a piece of sh it and its making mistakes that its costing YOU your lane and game are punished.
Like everything in this world when the sh it gen Z invades it becomes cancerous.
Is he still as hated now that lethal tempo is gone?
I remember when Skarner's rework hit PBE and people found out his E could stop Yone's Soul Unbound recall. Riot fixed that one with a quickness.
that's a game-breaking bug, so it's kinda expected (mfw Riot forgets to fix the other gazillion game-breaking bugs on other champions:)
Lol
riot fixed a bug no way how dare they fix something thats not supposed to work like that
@@noriakikakyoin8198 It's moreso the fact Yone gets extra special care when shit like Illaoi's infamous skin bug gets through the net, and it's not even subtle
@@silque_brigandess Yone doesn’t get special care, he is simply one of the most played champs in the game, meaning bugs get noticed faster and have a bigger impact, since a popular champions big bug is way more import than a rarely played champion having a minor bug. Of course every bug should get fixed, but riot is simply not capable of doing that, so they need to prioritize the more important bugs over the minor bugs
something i want to add, just a small annoyance with new champs in general (including yone): WHY DO SO LITTLE ABILITIES GET CANCELED BY CC??
Yone's ult doesn't even get canceled by death, motherfucker's swords move on their own.
It does get cancelled by death, the animation doesn't. Still enough to spook you tho :)
Apparently it is because velkoz main don't know their champ.
thats simply wrong tho, his ult does get cancelled by death, only not by cc because well its an uncancellable windup, like many other abilities like skarner ult, briar E, irelia W, aatrox q etc
Remembering when it was a pretty big deal that Vi couldn't get cc'ed during her ult, not half the abilities on champions still going off or are cc immune.
His Q is shut down when airborne it still comes out but it doesn’t hit anythjng
Personally the thing that frustrates me the most about yone is that cc doesnt stop anything he does, you can stun him durring the cast time of his ult but it still goes off, you cant stun him out of 3rd q, and you cant stun him out of his e, so it just feels like he doesnt have any counterplay unless you just statcheck him to death.
good luck trying to statcheck a double crit manaless champ with ftee magic damage on hit
thats a lot of champs tho, its not like the cc simply doesnt work, its that he can buffer them, meaning he needs to activate in a very specific timing for him to cancel the cc. the only unstoppable thing about him is his e recast, which has to be buffered. he cant recast if he already got hit by cc
The funny thing is that you CAN stun him out of these things (not r tho). The window is just so short only massive cc moves from tanks or massive no no zones like Taliyah E hit it consistently.
@@danielbarnes1241 True and even the ult can stun him after he casted it, because he just has an uncancellable windup, not cc immunity or displacement immunity
I agree 100% a big problem is people saying his E to "cleanse" is a good skill mechanic. I can tell you right now that shit is not hard to do, and it really happens on accident more often than not. I propose his E can be hit like similar to how illaoi works.
THE DAY HAS COME AT LAST
The prophecy has been fulfilled!!
YES!
I was looking for this
Overloaded is the word, to recap, he has:
-free crit chance
-Magic damage
-AA reset
-AoE CC combined with mobility x2
-Shield
-%hp damage
-Rewind to position mechanic
-CC "cleanse"
-true damage
-free ghost
-only scales off AD, with AS being his secondary
-has increased base resistances to compensate for various "mechanical nerfs to other aspects of the game"
Edit: forgot manaless
Also
-nice at clearing waves
-Split pushing
-Has the best type of CC in the game
-His shield gets bigger based on the amount of enemies he hits
-Has EVERY single type of damage (Aoe, %, Magic, True and physical)
-CC doesn't stop his Q and R
-can go through walls ( 3 skills that can go through walls)
-Edgylord in a relationship with a furry
Tencent champion
well he does not have true dmg, its a misconception a lot of ppl have with his e. it does replicate the 25-35%dmg to 100% so it is shown in statistics as true dmg. but it replicates the dmg that has already been negleted by mr/armor.
You can’t even do the Showmaker K’sante meme for this champ because he has too many features to fit in that template
@@N3207H05 zed has the same mechanic ON HIS R and it is ad dmg. just because it is based of his normal dmg doesn't stop it from being true dmg.
Babe wake up, vars hatting Yone just dropped
couldn't even spell the joke right.
@@Beaudunk 🤓☝️
Vars the mad hatter
@@Beaudunk😬
@@Beaudunk😫🤓🤓☝️☝️😫🤡
0:56 “as your favourite lunch break TH-camr” I’m literally watching this during my school lunch. Vars you will always be the best lunch break TH-camr.
You wanted to say "best toilet brake youtuber"
I think we need to talk about how he buys zerks (1100 gold item) and his W cooldown goes down by THREE SECONDS!
Even is W cooldown is based on AS?
Yes it is@@davidepicchiotti9989
@@davidepicchiotti9989 Yes - both the ability cooldown AND the cast time
@@moonlight8451 my fucking god
@@moonlight8451 my fucking god
Yone is the fifth horsewoman
Mommy yone
@@sevaneken3461, he didn't deserve such title
He is more disguisting than them, Riven countered by tanks and ranged, Fiora no AOE damage, countered by ranged but can outplay, only good at dueling and splitpushing, Irellia gets statchecked by many top laners and depends on minions,skillshots and timing, and Camille is turbo broken right now.
blip bloop
Even tho Yasuo windwall is annoying, i'd rather play against a good Yasuo than a good Yone because he only has 2 damaging abilities, a targeted dash and requires 10 times the amount of skill and effort to be good
He has 2 damaging ability and yet he does as much dmg as yone
@@baptistecochennec5956that is the biggest cap I've ever seen all day, besides his windwall everything he does Yone does better AND easier
@@baptistecochennec5956not true? Yone has way more faster dps then Yas when late game
@@Duby-rv7bx hmm no
Honestly I agree. Say what you will about Yasuo being dumb, he atleast requires SOME level of skill to play well. Yone is faceroll mode
And riot says that zed needs to be kept weak because he's too op otherwise... But Yone is fine, like you said, he even gets compensation buffs whenever he is supposed to be affected by a nerf...
Ok but like, both are problematic, like, an assassin that plays like a control mage by poking constantly during laning phase only to later tower dive you with ignite and ult and then leave with his shadow without you being able to properly counter him unless you have like, a strong point and click cc or a supression(malzahar), and yone, well, you saw the video, right?
@@xarao Sure, but my point is that only one of them is under scrutiny, while the other is actively supported by riot. Also, I don't think a character created in season 3 is as 200 years as the peak example of that meme. They're not even remotely close in toxicity. Zed is clearly counterable, Yone's not, Zed has difficulty dealing with tanks, yone usually doesn't, Zed has almost no magic damage, yone has split scaling. Also, yone has no resource bar, big and forgivable AoE and a lot of cc. Zed needs to deal with his crap energy, his q have small hitbox and his only cc is a slow.
As a top main, i never have problem with yone, you can easily fight him with most if not all bruiser champs, you can wait at his e to rekt him after he used it, his ult is a good escape but you can block it. I would rather face a fed yone than a zed that can jump every 5 second. (I HATE EZREAL WITH BURNING PASSION)
@@ezioasasyn2394 Zed is much more safe, and can much more easily deal with adc's. (Just has overall better burst and potential to jump on an important target)
@@ezioasasyn2394 i know i know, yone is way worse than zed, but still, i would be fine if they could rework zed so his playstyle is less poke-ish you know... Maybe be like qiyana, where she has a bigger range than most assassins but you still need to be considerably close to the enemy.
as somebody who *plays* the little bastard, I think that everything you said about him is completely true - but I also think that the favouritism is by *far* the worst thing about him. runes have favoured him, he ducks under the nerf radar every time, and the fact that he keeps getting skins is a *lot* of salt in an open wound. Riot’s moneygrabbing is an aggravating trend, and Yone’s one of their most blatant cash cows. it sucks, dude.
He is almost permaneantly 48% winrate, how is he shown any favoritism at all?
Stupid people exist so his winrate gets lowered even if his op.@@Cryptic.0_o
@@Cryptic.0_o any champ with a high skill ceiling has to be below 50% it's as simple as that. If it's hard to play properly, you will have lower wr. Yone's 48% wr is actually rly good and if he is ever at 50% it's serious problem for many champs. I know because I main him
@@m1ndlss583 Just dodge Q3, champ is weak
@@Cryptic.0_o well hitting your q3 is up to the yone player, the mind games, is he gonna e-q3? Is he gonna q3? Is he gonna e-r-q3? Or r-e-q3? That’s the skill part. But yes if you miss it he’s considerably weaker
The one and only thing I hate about Yone and think is truly unfair is that, no matter how much you try to shut him down in early game, if he gets 2 items, he will carry, rendering all your early efforts completely useless. No other champion has that amount of low effort/investment to high reward/carry/comeback potential
I think this is true but also saying other champs don't have this is not really that accurate. I can think of several others like Urgot, Sion, and a few others (typically split pushers) because they just have so much pressure with their tower damage while taking all of the other team's attention away from the more important things or else they'll literally just end the game.
One thing I hate about his and how unfair it is, is his E. He is a mele Champion you cannot trade against becouse he is always safe with his E
Like every scaling champ in the game?
@@baptistecochennec5956 you really don't play scalling champions do you?...(At least the old ones...not the 200 years..)
@@usarhabilidade2697 twitch, kog, ryze, vlad, Jax are new champ?
You know this video came straight from the bowels of his heart 😂
the biggest issue will always be that he never has to commit to a fight if he doesn't want to.
his spirit form means he literally never has to fully commit to a fight. if the player id playing him right, he can always just return to his positions giving him an insane amount of mobility in the middle of a skrimish. so you have to respect his engage while he also can simple opt out of the fight if it doesn't go his way. and then if it's real dicey he can dash and ult away.
If he doesnt commit he doesn't do dmg and both his engage tool are conditional
@@baptistecochennec5956 he can be noncommittal with e while doing dmg with aa, q, w, and r. And E will still do dmg.
Watch the video!
@@flightlexx6985 he still need to commit like you can damage him while in e he is not xerath and you can even stun him while in e, yes he can e back if he has the right timing but he need to have the timing and if he goes back he cant reengage
@@flightlexx6985 lmao this is the dumbest thing possible
If he's gonna lose the fight he can't just E away in the middle of it. His killer will just sit on top of his E.
If he uses E to try to poke you just step back and wait for it to time out. Resume stopping him from getting farm after.
"noncommittal" is so bs, you're being dummy afraid of a yone if you think that's his problem.
“His killer will wait on top of E” Oh boy. I sure hope there isn’t a team or a tower there or any minion damage to tank while I wait!
“Walk away”. Oh boy. Let me just let him deny me XP and farm so he can catch up or get ahead. That won’t become a problem.
Yasuo has to get a knock up first, then he can ult and gain access to 50% armor pen for a short duration, Yone's bitch ass permanently has 50% armor pen from split damage, but then ALSO get's zeds ult as TRUE damage, which works AOE as another basic ability. "we do not think our newer champion kits are more overloaded overall"
if only it was 50% armor pen but no... it 50% BONUS armor pen for yas. so its only good against tanks and even then its kinda ass.
Yone doesn't have 50/50 split dmg chart, magic dmg is still reduced by me, and his true dmg isn't real true dmg
@@baptistecochennec5956 ......the worst part is that I'm pretty sure you know it is true damage... you're just playing dumb until someone comes with the "funny numbers" don't you?...
@@usarhabilidade2697but it’s legit a repeat of the dmg he dealt in E so it’s not more. The problem is the amount/ the fact there’s repeat dmg not that it’s true dmg
@@Ash-my4gf Okay...before I bring the funny numbers, do you think it would be okay if Zed's R work the same way as Yone? Or would it be a buff?...
you missed that he was created so Yasou player have someone to pick when Yasou is banned, which means there is next to 0 cost for spamming his abilities.
He has a zero risk engage with his E so the second he feels threatened he teleports back so there's no counterplay to him engaging you. Also his ulti is a blink and buggy so you can't counter it with cc
How so, you clearly don't play the champion, once he uses E you just all in him and he dies, it's a almost 20 sec CD - easy champions to beat him are Leblanc, Ahri, Pantheon, Renekton, Darius, and many more.
@@LuccasGabrielMirandadeSo-qw1tc How do you all in though? the idea of assassin is that they dive in for high risk reward and there isn't any risk as the second you try to jump no him all he has to do is *checks note* press a button.
@@embalancer6146 How so? we have established you are all ining when he is without his E. If he ults away, then he can't ult you. Unless you ulted too, you win the trade. Yone is like any other champion, as Renekton for example, you can all in him anytime, literally, and there is no counterplay, same for Leblanc and Ahri. Yone is a snowball champion, if he doesn't outfarm you, and doesn't constantly win trades, he can't force anything. You can literally pick Malzahar and just push wave so he can't roam, and wait for jungler to just ult on his face while playing neutral defensive and defending his push.
He’s extremely fun to play. But getting chased half way across the map by his E before he zips back perfectly safe is so frustrating.
anything strong is fun to play, just look at the amount of people playing heimer in Arena because he is strong (or used to be) compared to a non existent pick rate in normal games
@@Tiagocf2yeah no if that was true zilean would be played in ranked
@@Tiagocf2 Also he's not only strong but safe and rewarding is as well
If you're a main Yone, you're going to have a way safer and easier time overall playing this game, because he's overall great at almost everything
@@baptistecochennec5956I can tell you were not playing during the Magifelix meta
@@Tiagocf2 Heimerdinger has the single lowerst winrate of all champions in the Arena gamemode.
Strengths: Resourceless, Low CD spammable waveclear moves, ranged poke, shielding, hybrid damage, doubles crit for free, can roam and respond to jungle activity without having to commit, spammable crowd control.
Weakness: the player
Weaknesses: Weak early game, many moves are telegraphed, his consistent dmg is melee range, his E creates a kill zone if used poorly, if q3/r miss the situation can be catastrophic
@@tonysmith9905 IE: The player
"spammable crowd control" yeah I love getting hit by q3 only to get q3 stacked again before I'm done with the knock up
actual living cancer
Goodbye lethal tempo, you won’t be missed
This is why I think yas though also frustrating is more fair than yone. Yas needs set up, he can't truly burst squishes and his dashes are all conditional regardless of how easy the condition is depending on team comp. They honestly need to make w not scale cooldown with as. It's actually dumb that it does.
Yas can't burst squishy?
Yas can burst squishies, ofc. But you're fucked if you don't have a target for your one and only dash ability. Meanwhile, Yone has 3 dash abilities, with 1 of them even allowing you to move 1/4 of the map and still be able come back to safety everytime.
@@baptistecochennec5956not unconditionally, he doesn't gey any free engage on his own. He needs a wave or multiple enemies to get close.
Yas' counterplay is good wave management and not standing next you your allied minions when you're killable
Vars, don’t you realise? Hating Yone is a serious penalty: you are required to ban him EVERY game.
Unironically met more people defend and like Yone, claiming he's very hard and difficult, rather than hate him, BUT FUCKING FINALLY
Yone made me realize how much skill Yasuo actually takes to be played properly
Unlike this piece of shit
As a Yone main I could not agree more with the haters. Yes he is overloaded. Yes he is annoying to play against. But GODDAMNIT is he fun.
Playing yone well can be difficult, because of how his kit works.
The problem is that, as someone who plays yone, I can jump on a garen, miss q, auto, w, miss q, chase him under tower, take a tower shot, miss an auto, e back to my body, and he'll be down from 100 to 60%, and I'll have 80% hp left from starting at 82%.
He’s not a hard champ but he does have a high skill ceiling.
@@thetheory6159 I doubt this a little because Yone gets really fucked up by champs with good bullying like Darius or Garen. Maybe if it was anyone else but Garen will whoop his ass
I have been waiting years for this! This takedown will be legendary!
One of my happiest memories in League was a few years back, when I was playing draft top, someone asked to swap and a lot of bungled communication later, the both of us had picked support, so I ended up going Leona Top with support runes.
Into the man himself, Yone.
Everyone on the team was in rather good humour about it, but... I ended up not losing lane all that hard. A couple of overconfident towerdives left me 2/3/0 and Yone 3/2/0 at the end of laning phase and come teamfights, I absolutely clobbered him with my team at my back. We ended up stomping that game.
yeah I found that yone/yasuo are absolutely countered by Leona, she's just too tanky and too much cc for them.
@@theillogicalmindset For Yone, she has the very fun gimmick of increasing both her armour and magic resistance at the same time too…
@@kiwwat4139jesus christ, this is truly huge brain time
@@yurilopes420 In that game I was dropping the idiot ball so hard, I accidentally stumbled back into being smart.
As a Qiyana player, I FUCKING HATE YONE.
As a Bel’veth player… I have no right to complain LOL.
but yone has 35% wr against qiyana ☠☠
@@Im-Eva … what? Not even close. His WR playing into her mid is like 48% most of the time.
@@listerineclean343 it says on ugg he has 34.8% wr against qiyana now
@@Im-Eva That's because he's dog now after lethal and item changes. He has 45% wr XD
@@Im-Eva yeah idk, I see what ur talking about but It’s for like ~100 matches only. Most Yone vs Qiyana stats I’ve found are small sample size and vary wildly from 35-48%. It seems clear Qiyana has the advantage but not sure by how much
Regardless… I never said I was a /good/ Qiyana player, and I will never enjoy the matchup. But maybe there is some things I can learn that will make it easier
Because he is an excuse for fanservice, an overloaded champion so people can feel more skillful while playing him but actually only breaks rules other champions are tied to just for that main character syndrome.
And while I agree Yone has a good skill cap, the amount of BS he can get with kinda makes "easier" to reach said skillcap.
Which rules?
@@baptistecochennec5956power budget in kit rule but instead Yone has no cons.
@@emperorsfinest4907 yeah and what are those rule? If you think yone has no con you are delu
champions shouldnt kill you if they missed/you dodge every ability.
simple.
Guess jinx shouldn't be allowed to kill if she misses w, guess trynda shouldn't be allowed to kill at all
@@baptistecochennec5956??? trynd??
@@baptistecochennec5956Tryndamere is slated to get a rework in the near future for a reason.
@@100organicfreshmemes5 so every adc, Jax, yi will also get a rework?
@@baptistecochennec5956they are not really ability caster focused they're carrys where there power budget is behind their passive or ult. Unlike Yone where there is no power budget because he is overpowered as a caster AND carry.
He's an assassin-fighter-hypercarry, stat checker, dangerous at all stages of the game, has a mixed damaged profile, does percent health, can one shot in a single rotation, but if he misses everything he still kills you in three autos, has a cleanse, is manaless, can zone AAers with a 700 range shotgun, can chase you Tower to Tower, and after 2 to-3 damaged items he builds full tank and is unkillable.
All this is okay because hes Ionian. Ionians get affirmative action and are protected in League of Legends.
Everytime i called a champion my main they got gutted eventually, or outright deleted (R.I.P Aatrox) but you have the 2 windshitters getting double crit for free, and a clear preferential treatment from rito. I'm seriously so sick of this company not respecting the players in so many ways, they make the game less fun to manipulate you into grinding or getting that last win of the day every day. And games only last 15-20 minutes because one of the team always dominates the other the entire game. We gotta start respecting ourselves and ask for better or stop playing.
Bruh you can't be real
@@baptistecochennec5956fr it’s not that big of a problem LMAO, I don’t even see yone that often tbh
lol old Aatrox was shit and unhealthy his own way. And if your main got gutted it was more than likely because of pro play. Even with these windshitters they have never been full meta or pro play problems, and that’s cause their meant to be more fun then viable.
What does yone do?
Yes.
Yone's E is whole Zed kit packed in one ability
The worst part about Yone or the wind brothers in general is that they will always suck in your team but get turbo fed, 1v9 and even kill you irl if they are on the enemy team
Quite a few ways to fix him.
-We could remove half the passives on his abilities.
-Reduce his range on all his abilities and autos by half.
-Make it so the magic damage auto doesn't allow lifesteal from items only omnivamp.
-remove his multiplied crit chance.
-change his damage multiplier from his ghost become either physical or magical damage instead of true damage or make it deal more damage the further he travels to get back to his original location so if he fights a tank right next to his dash position it deals little to no damage.
-give him mana bar or even energy.
-give his cds an additional 10 seconds for those dash abilities.
-Make it so immobilizes either sent him back from his dash or he must remain until the cc wears out.
-Make his ult interruptable(no reason to be cc immune for that).
He already gets stuck in E if you cc him when it’s about to end. It just snaps him back when the cc is over.
@@Z0MBIEkiller106 he can activate it while cc'ed to go back with no downside.
@@CorruptionAuraI play a lot of yone and you definitely can’t. I’ve been stuck in E for ages longer than 5 seconds thanks to Morgana root for example
@@CorruptionAurahe needs to perfect activate it at the exact frame he was cc'ed
an interesting fix for him is to turn him to an AP champion. one of his main problems is he can miss all abilities and be able to kill you just by using autoattacks. by turning him to a caster, missing abilities is actually punishing. his basic attacks could then scale with AP so that he's a pure magic dealer, giving him counterplay as the current one is impossible to build resist against(hybrid max health damage. yea good luck with that)
Being able to survive critical mistakes is the most frustrating thing for me. I feel like that kind of security should only be afforded to tanks.
Or possibly assassins since they're all or nothing champs
If his e actually functioned like any other teather in the game. I think he'd be fine. Because you really just can't run away from him
His e isn't a tether at all?
@@baptistecochennec5956 it looks like every other tether in the game. Idk why it doesn't work like every other one
@@Ekaidseaky bc it's not a tether? Like how do you even want that to work? I'm genuinely curious
@@baptistecochennec5956 give him a max range to walk in his e. And make it clear to both the opponent and the yone. As it is right now its just a frustrating ability with no real visual clarity on what it does other then the icon on your character
@@Ekaidseaky why would u do that that's not supposed to be a limitation to yone like
In my humble opinion, Yone is fun to play but he does have weaknesses as well like other champions in the game. In my own experience, he's really weak early against bruisers/tanks. If enemies are good at having visions on the map, Yone's hard to do surprise attacks combo which works really well with him, go in and kill then go back with e. Meanwhile if you're seen, enemies can tell just by looking at your 3rd q animation, smart people would draw a bit of distance to punish him if he does dash. Overall I think it's more of predicting what yone does which is easy and dodge, or if you can trade blows with him.
i agree, you have to land your Q's to actually have pressure in lane and be able to kill. unlike alot of champs which are less reliant on landing point and click abilities like renekton w, people tend to forget his e is long cooldown as well 22 seconds, alot of items he used to build got nerfed hard kraken, dagger got nerfed, his crit chance got nerfed, lethal tempo got removed. you are forced to snowball in lane because going even means your losing now. alot of champions will just outscale you and even if you snowball with all the nerfs ive talked his not as good right now any good player can tell, his w got nerfed multiple times also before (for a good reason imo). people will always find ways to hate on a champion though which is understandable if they can't deal against him he had his times where he was really good (back when shieldbow was very good and he didnt have his w nerfs). thats why you shouldn't really listen to everything you hearso yeah i agree with most things you said at the end of the day every champion has a weakness.
Now it's time for "What makes shaco so hated"
How is this not the very first video on his channel
3rd Q range, plus the knock-up .
Doesnt his body also count towards the knock up hitbox and not just the projectile
@@toastedmarsh6185Yes it does
That's why yasuo's windwall does jack shit if you hit him with body
I guess another reason to hate yone is that his he is the embodyment of privilige because why does he need that
@@toastedmarsh6185 yes is a dash, that you can't stop.
Can we just delete him
This one gave me good old "Delete Priest class" vibes for some reason
TBH the most tilting thing is his ult hitbox. I’m like yea I dodged and then I’m dead.
in my honest opinion yone is really annoying to play against he does WAY to much. hes a 200 years classic
What is your opinion on why more people dont play him
Refusal to play a busted champ @@ziglaus
No, no... he IS the 200 years classic
I could swear his Q doesn’t ignore armor boots.
(His Q and W should get increased cooldown by frozen heart imo.)
Tabis passive reduces specifically auto damage and his q is ability damage
@@ethanstyant9704 except that his Q is counted as an autoattack for the first enemy hit, then everything beyond the first is counted as an ability, that's why when you Q somebody lifesteal is only applied to the first enemy struck, same as Yasuo Q. Been this way since Yas came out, and Yone Q is (apart from the movement) the exact same coding wise as Yasuo Q. So by buying Tabis you instantly block 11% of his Q damage just from the passive, and on top of that you have the armor from tabis to block damage as well.
I hate tabis, I'd you buy them first back you should take more aa damage
the thing is since he has TWO abilities that scale with attack speed (both castime and cooldown) it makes him spike so hard at just the smallest amount of gold since attack speed also doubles up as ability haste for him (with just around 60-70 percent AS his q gets lowered to 1.3 seconds and his W cd GETS LOWERED TO LESS THAN HALF) like people complain about camille passive being oppressive in short trades but that shit Has 10 seconds cd at level 16 and only blocks on type of damage while yone gets a n all purpose shield with a poke ability and mixed max health damage
Let's be real, Yone has a lower winrate because of his massive play rate. There are a LOT of Yone players who suffer from the dunning-kreuger effect, because they see themselves as successful and skilled players having missed half their kit and ran you down by sheer statchecking, when killing you does nothing and they're doing nothing to move towards victory.
They killed you, so they're good. Then they lose to macro, and blame their team.
All of his abilities are tricky to dodge, he can easily retreat after engaging, even if he misses all of said abilities he’ll just auto you down anyway.
WHY DOES E GIVE INCREASING MOVESPEED????
imagine having 3 sec knockup CC Big damage and safe skill that is a finisher with true damage
THE TIME HAS COME AND SO HAVE I
Who TF had the ducking idea to create this garbage champion? Also Viego...
Literally the only reason Yone as a champ hasn’t cracked a 65% win rate is because of all the players that first-time him. For once, we are spared from League being a bad game by all of the players (myself included) that bad at the game.
10:22 - Call 911 because I just witnessed a MURDER!
You could argue that he is very hard to learn and even harder to master, BUT no champion should be able to do what he is able to do when you master him
Another problem is his skill floor is above 1/3 of the champions skill ceilings.
once he builds bork all the skill is gone because the enemy is slowed making it so easy to land skillshots
oh please difficult my ass a fucking bronze players plays him just damn it
Kalista,Azir,Yasuo.Urgot,Irelia,Aurelion sol,Kindred,Ranger,Aphelios,Zoe are much harder campions than this edgy ghost with deer fetish boy and they are not that overboard with bullshit
Yone isnt even the worse (broken ) otp champ. GP and riven can be so much more ridiculous (gp maybe not atm, but the things solarbacca pulls off shouldnt be allowed)
@@user-hv1tr9ok1i Yet there's still VERY low number of people who can play GP or Riven at an almost perfect level every game in ultra high elo, reason why these two champs are nowadays fairly rare in competitive, Yone on the other hand is also strong and safe enough to be picked into big tournaments like MSI.
Interesting how you didn't mention his free cleanse on his E or how he is unstoppable during ult channel/blink. His Q dash can be interrupted but the damage still goes through (along with the knock up)
That's one of the things that pisses me off the most because sometimes when I play the anti dash champs like poppy and tali I am still punished for using my abilities correctly
@@ethanstyant9704 The dash creates a projectile. Pay attention to the animations and you'll see the windblade being shot out ahead of Yone. Working as intended.
the worst part about yone is his CONCEPT
i look at his kit and i dont see a demon (azakana) hunter or a man trapped in limbo between his physical and spiritual form
i just see yasuo with a teamfight ultimate
i have endlessly (and hopelessly) thought of dozens of different skills and ultimates that yone COULD'VE had that still would've connected him to yasuo but had a fundamentally different playstyle and feel that would be unique to league of legends
it pisses me off to no end that an amazing character that deepens the lore of runeterra and uncovering a new realm of its universe has their gameplay wasted on jacking off edgelords who can't hit simple skillshots
I'd say he's pretty objectively a magic samurai. The evil looking red looks pretty demonic. I don't think it's a stretch to think he's a demon magic samurai. And his lore is demon magic samurai that hunts demons, aside from the Yasuo stuff.
I think also a contributing factor is his popularity. You see Yone all the time. And thats because despite the high skill sealing, he had at least before the removal of lethal tempo a low skill floor. Even if he misses all of his skillshots, he can still autoattack you to death, and because of his scaling, even if you manage to bully him in lane, his e and his scaling give him safety nets that help even the bad players to still contribute something. He is a bit like ezreal in that regard, in that he can be played relatively safe despite his melee nature. He might still fluctuate in his pressure, but he doesn't outright feed so hard that it feels frustrating for the player who plays him. The reason why Ezreal isn't as hated is that he at least is still a adc and somewhat easy to explode, he has just more range and also cannot hypercarry that hard. A extremely frustrating champ that you see all the time just reinforces the hatred.
I mean what you are saying about him is true for every melee carry since the beginning of league of legends
He has:
A good neutral on Q, and a dash with CC and on-hit on Q3;
A shield so every trade is good;
Zed R on his E;
Massive teamfight ult;
hybrid damage due to passive;
Q and W have CDR based on attack speed;
Powerspike on t2 boots;
Good early, mid and late game;
And is also manaless
The legitimately only reason why Yone doesn't have a 60% winrate at this point is because the people who love playing him are beyond stupid, Yone players tend to be the most "just run at enemy and kill them" type players, and since the character is so easy and rewarding they just even out the Winrate.
nice bait troll
@@Madhvipanchgade "They hated him because he spoke the truth"
that is the most retarded take ive ever seen
@@Madhvipanchgade No, no.. this guy actually has a point, for a character that's supposed to be "hard" and a "high" skill celling while maintaining one of the biggest playerbases of the game, is not a good thing
I've never been able to play him. I don't know why but I think I can't force myself to go to the wind-side.
I know what would be a good Yone nerf
make his shadow clone from E like an illaoi E, and you can hit it to deal a fraction of damage. That way he has to be more concious of E placement and cannot ALWAYS just run you down to execute range
I really liked the thoroughness of this video! It’s surprising how unbiased it was also, I loved this!
Long story short: Windshitter.
Everyone else remember a time when yasuo and zed were the most hated champions for years. Man how times have changed. 😂
I don't, as a mage player I would rather face him that his brother
One and only, an ability to block half of league roster for 20% of the game 😂
same
My main just dodges his qs and ult and she can even w his ult or q. She also can duel him with autos, so I'd much rather deal with yone than shit like rumble in lane
This entire series boils down to "X champions normally have Y weakness, but Z champion ignores this weakness entirely while not losing anything for it"
I've watched 0.1 second of this video, and I agree with whatever this man said
he's like yasuo: even if he ints early game he will reach his 0\10 powerspike and do a pentakill
Huh just 15mins? I expected it to be longer. Like 15 hours or so 😂
Not anymore. Without Lethal Tempo Yasuo and Yone actually takes skill. I mean Yasuo was always harder, but atleast now everything about this topic is solved in my eyes
but how are all the pint vary pointed out are solved, when almost all of them have nothign to do with lethal tempo.
Let's hope riot don't give any "compensation" buff, atleast not to yone, just joking, of course they will do
not gonna lie i loved ur vids, always nice. This on the other hand is just bs. Yone was only OP when lethal tempo was OP. you can ask any good yone players, dzukill, tempest etc. In no way i can respect what you said when in live in the reality where he is on a legit 46% wr and lower in some ranks because tempo has been removed. Even with OP tempo he was around 50% with only high ranks having a higher one. Lets be honest people in lower ranks dont know how to deal with him or play him. end of story. Also he has a weak early game, he loses to shit ton of matchups. I beg you, play 50 games of yone, I want to see your WR on him toplane.
Mr 200 years himself. A man so hated his very existence is giving me character creation ideas for my story works. Truly, a man with centuries worth of game design behind his making.
It’s so funny. I’m like 40% of the video in and half of the things you say are wrong. Tabis decreases his damage by a ton. FH guts his damage. His magic damage is ON HIT meaning if you slow his attack speed he does less magic damage it really is that simple. Tabis reduces Auto damage MEANING it also reduces his magic damage from passive. And before you try to flame me in the replies actually go to practice tool and try it out for yourself.
you are right, especially now that tabi is just 1000 gold. and all his spikes got nerfed and lethal tempo got removed and that he needs to land abilities unlike alot of champions in top where your allowed to point and click and that his e is 22 second cooldown. you are forced to snowball in lane otherwise you don't do anything the whole game going even is losing and even if you snowball you get outscaled by most champions. yone had his moments where he was broken but people often hate without understanding.
Thanks for saying this
I have yet to start this video, but I know you had an absolute field day with this one, and I already anticipate several bleeped out rants. And I’m ALL IN for this. :D
NA players are just cringe
Run-yo-down auto wacker that can chase you till the end of the earth and can beat yo ass by two items.
Nothing mo, nothing less.
What a shocker of a video idea
Man... I just wanna play the epic Anime swordfighter that dual wields and can do the "nothing Peersonal, kid" (R) as well as the "You're already dead" (E) but I can't do that without being called slurs for having over 300k Master with him
Most broken champ to date.
skarner rework has entered the chat
I have the same problem with him and Akshan and it’s the sustain. Champions with high mobility/damage and CC in Yone’s case DO NOT need shielding as well. That’s why Malphite loses so hard into them. They can mitigate all of the poke damage, and he can’t win trades with W, E due to their kiting and lack of reliance on attack speed.
Malphite unironically skull fucks yone and is obnoxious to askhan tho
@@bullettime1116 In my experience (which is considerable Emerald malphite main 2 mil plus mastery) those matchups are far harder than they should be. It’s possible to eek out early leads especially against bad players, but the amount of extra work it takes vs the rate you fall off at is incredibly annoying. And if you are using general winrates to determine the ease of laning , that’s not how that works. Malphite has a high impact ult, surviving lane without feeding should put you in a good position to win most games. My argument is Yone and Akshan should get dumpstered and stay dumpstered, with half the amount of effort it currently takes.
@@jongahimer5338 nah what in saying is, q and e literally make both of them absolutely useless against you. Akshan and yone with half of their attack speed against a pure armor building tank? There's a reason malphite is an s tier cou terpick champion
@@bullettime1116 If you watched this video you’d know Yone is hardly limited to physical damage. Akshan also deals magic damage although a lesser amount. Like most champions nowadays yone is not auto attack reliant, he spams abilities. In addition to abilities Akshan is literally built to not care about attack speed slows with his double fire mechanic. And while armor is generally useful the main problem is that malphite loses into sustain matchups and they both rush BoTrk. Between that and their shielding, damage simply doesn’t stick. And then they simply out scale as the value of tank stats diminishes as the game progresses. And again those counter stats you reference are based on the game outcome, not how easy a lane matchup goes. Malphite wins those games ultimately because he feeds far less than other lane matchups for those two and has a high impact ult.
I really hope they buff yone, with the lethal tempo removal I'm afraid I might dip back into bronze 😢
Yone doesn’t feel like he cares of he’s behind when playing against him, and if he’s ahead he feels like an unstoppable force
I love defending yone cause it makes everybody angry
Let me guess, Shaco main?
Your ways are beyond mortal comprehension.
@@punishing_birb i am too stupid for such things 😔
Its because Yone has an answer to anything you can do to him, but short of stomping him hard early and finishing the game in
What I found funny is that Vars didn't even need to mention Soul Unbound recast is a cleanse. I robbed too many people with that recast, special Morde Ults lmao.
Yeah no it doesn't cleanse morde ult. Morde main here, even tested it myself well before the "you can't qss my ult" changes. He's never been able to E out of it.
@@tonysmith9905 From my knowledge it still can. The timing is just really strict because Yone needs to press E at the right time to cancel it
It goes some like Morde Ults Yone in Soul Unbound but before it can full cast the Soul Unbound recast cancels out the Ult
@@kyookusanagi
You must be talking about the split moment when he presses R and points his finger at you BEFORE the deathrealm actually goes off. Yes, lots of things can cancel that and for some reason it actually puts Morde's R on cooldown. It's absolutely frustrating. But once the walls are actually up Yone can't get out.
@@tonysmith9905 yeayea that's wat I'm referring to. But if Yone gets caught in the arena he can't get out
I recently played Vlad mid against a Yone and was up 6/0 over him before 20 minutes. Then he roamed bot lane ONCE, got two kills, and proceeded to demolish my entire team for the rest of the game. Champ needs to go.
You play vlad arguably the biggest scaling champ in the game yone was not the problème
@@baptistecochennec5956 I'd love a hit of whatever you're smoking, dude
yone aphelios and yasuo are definetly not 200 years, every time you die to them they miss all skillshots and then the auto attacks get you.
RIOT just needs to fire the boosted balance team members that main Yone. That'd fix him in one patch, possibly sooner. It's not OK for a champion to be able to engage on you only on their terms from so absurdly far away, getting out reliably even if you land cc against them. The only way to beat that without counter-picking is to be nearly immune to damage, so that it does him no good to go in against you and fight... but even that doesn't actually counter him, as he will still ninja in/out to kill your four teammates while you you sit on items that make you do no damage whatsoever to his team. The number of champions that pick well into Yone is by far the smallest in the game for any champion. It's stupid.
Only weakness I've seen is lockdown, CC is (while not effective completely) his enemy as if he can't move he cant do bullshit. Anivia has been working as a solution for mid at times but then theres all that bs knock up of his, eventually he just E and immediately ults for you but otherwise, she can somewhat match him
To be strict, that part about frozen heart doing nothing to his abilities is blatantly untrue because his ability cds are attack-speed reliant, so lowering his as will also make him use his abilities less.
A 3 minute long fight with some beefy Sion of which my teammates mass '?' me over how long the fight was lasting, until my team assisted me.
In summary:
Yone gets to have all the toys and doesn't get put in time out when he abuses it.
one of the most annoying things about yone that wasnt mentioned in this video is the fact that he has no mana or energy at least with yasuo you know you can exploit a mana weakness if hes low, or at least capitalize (with roaming, wave pushing, freezing ,etc.) on the fact he has to go back to base to gain mana with yone once he gets bork or anything with lifesteal he can literally stay on the map for as long as he wants which is why he was broken with hullbreaker it makes literally no sense for him not to have at least energy so he cant spam abilities as he does with lethal tempo.
Wot? Did you just say Yasuo has mana?
yea, seems like average yone hater's game knowledge
i get that its a joke but still...
@@MrEnergyStaff i mean im not a hater i guess i just didnt see yas has not got mana because i typically just fuck him with a shen counter pick
I will never forgive riot for that time they decided to buff Yone because YASUO wasnt doing as well
A thing I also find extremely annoying is how much pressure he can exert by literally just existing in lane. Let's see it like this:
It's still early game, only 2 waves have come around, so both Yone and you are currently level 2. You're both miraculously full HP, no minion has attacked you and neither of you have hit the other one. Yone uses his Q on a minion and gets one stack. He is now on the cooldown between Qs. You go for a minion since his Q is on a 4 second long cooldown. 4 seconds are up, Yone gets another Q stack the wind FX is now around him. From the moment this happens, you have 4 seconds to make a decision:
1. You stay close to keep getting CS and not get pushed in by him.
2. You immediately create a good distance from Yone
Logic dictates the safest option right now is to create distance and wait his Q3 out. Let's put a pin on this to come back to later. Let's say you picked option 1 of staying close. 4 seconds pass by, you now get the privilege of playing the world's most unfair game of "Left or right". Yone is definitely going to use his Q3 on you since you are so close. You now can only pray that you guess right and dodge because, if you don't, he gets to: knock you up, use his W to both deal damage and shield himself while you are still in the air, and now you get to make another choice: you either stay after to try to trade damage (pointless, as he has a shield and he will just get to deal even more easy damage to you) or you immediately run away, in which case you might not take any extra damage but you have already lost the trade. This is what you have to deal with if you decide to stick close to wave.
Now, let's go back to that pin we left in the conversation. The safest option when Yone is about to get or has Q3 is to move away from him. Alright, so now what? Yeah, he can't hit you but you have effectively been zoned out from the wave since any attempts to get closer will just lead to the paragraph above repeating itself. Ok, so I guess we stay away for the duration of the stacks. Yone's Q cooldown is 4 seconds at the highest, since it scales purely off of his AS and not ability level. So assuming that he just hit his Q2, he would have to wait for 4 seconds to use it, and Q stacks last 6 seconds, being refreshed everytime he hits a Q. Ok, so he hits Q2 and now you have 2 or 3 seconds before he actually uses it. Time's up, he doesn't use it, he just kept attacking minions, and immediately hits his Q1 as soon as his Q3 stacks fall off. He is now back to 1 stack, there's only 4 seconds until he gets his Q2 and then 4 more seconds until he gets to use Q3 yet again. That, in a full rotation against Yone, playing especially carefully against Yone, leaves you around 5 to 6 seconds in his Q rotation to maybe get close and get some CS.
Welp, that's annoying but at least if you are a far enough distance from him when he has Q3, you should be fine. I mean, it's not like he has an ability that simultaneously allows him to get slightly closer to you, make him move faster, allow him to apply a stacking damage mark similar to Zed's ult and return safely to his casting location if he ever just so happens to bite off a bit more than he can chew, right? Yeah, at the end of the day, the problem with Yone isn't any individual ability, is that every ability combined into one champion just allows for the most obnoxious trading pattern than anyone could ever have to deal with and nothing pisses me off more than the people who say "just dodge Q3". Yeah, no shit Sherlock, just DODGE the ability. Just dodge the Zyra E, just dodge Blitz Q, just dodge Thresh Q, just dodge Malphite ult. THAT'S NOT HOW THIS WORKS. You can try to dodge but you're never gonna dodge every single Yone Q, and God knows you do NOT wanna be in the situation where you guess wrong and it hits (refer back to paragraph 2). He is a menace just by existing, because he gets to do so much out of hitting a ranged knock up that brings him closer and allows him to unleash an entire combo before you even land. And, again, even if you so happen to dodge his Q3, what do you think happens next? If he Q3'd at you, he's now right in your face, perfect for him to just use his W and shield any of your attempts to punish his miss. And God forbid he used his E before his Q3, because you will not be punishing him for that shit.
The sounds of the yone subreddit is really amusing to me after the removal of lethal tempo and being actually not as elo inflated as he was
As much as I hate Yone, people always say that he does true damage, this is not true so I must defend him. The true damage on his E is just an echo of the post-mitigation damage he did during Spirit Unbound, so he already had that damage reduced by Armor/MR so even though the game says true damage it’s just telling you the post-mitigation damage you already did.
yeah very common misconception.
forgot to mention he is a manaless champion aswell!
Also, once again, we must not forget just how broken %health damage is, especially because of how ubiquitous it is.
Today Rito removed a pure health tank item, partially because just HP turns out to be very useless for tanking. Yet they refuse to adress the problem of %hp dmg.
Bruh he can do 15% of someone max health every 6 sec at best do you realize how little that is?
the last time I was able to somewhat deal with yone was to have a jax 4-0 him in lane and headbut (with Alistar) him out of the way of ult. Otherwise, gotta pray your frontline chunks him enough so he can't all in and have all the vision - even then his auto damage is enough to shred an adc before he goes down. uncommon opinion but in a disjointed team, its actually easier to deal with yone than master yi as he can't really go untargetable or run really far without ult
My biggest gripe with both of the int bros is their double crit chance, especially Yone, when I duel him, I can hit my entire combo & then he misses all of his abilities on me to then proceeds to hit me with 2 or 3 autos with 100% crit chance which will in turn wipe my entire hp bar, it's blatantly not fun to play against, the crit chance multiplier should be removed, I don't care if they have to buff him in order to remove it, it should be removed/hard nerfed
Yas/yone main here.
I’d be thankful if they removed the crit multiplier and buffrd them elsewhere atm, crit on them feels scuffed due to 1st item and randuin’s being broken.
So yeah, hope your prayers are answered.
The worst part is that his ult hitbox doesn't match the animation