I don't find this bitter but a song of encouragement. these women only did what a real song writer would do and that's putting their real life situations and emotions into their music. This song is for people who've been through tough situations and need encouragement to know time heals all wounds.
That because they didn’t want you to the dad would try to make letoya and latavia sing bad one of the vocal coaches said he would do it to them on purpose and also there vocal coach said all of them could sing just as good and he did it that way on purpose so nobody can say they can’t sing. Really the only thing that made Beyoncé different was her dad and her voice it’s not her singing her voice is light and kinda strong so it sounds nice and people like that she never could sing better
yo this is awesome. Letoyas verse really hit home. You can see the difference with how they felt vs how Bey and kelly felt with survivor. They didn’t throw any shade here
This song showed how hurt and confused Latavia and Letoya when it all went down and a humble response to Survivor which in all honesty was a brutal diss and tore them down but glad the ladies have grown and moved past the mess and realized that evil.man Matthew Knowles was the root of it all. I hope one day these can be Released on to streaming
That’s why sometimes I look in DC 2(not Michelle) in a questionably. It just doesn’t sit right with me. The way things were done after the break up. And the comments made. Nasty and underhanded. They coped well for young ladies. And Letoya on this track proves she should of been singing Lead. IDC.
@@tajsimms8976Beyonce and Kelly were definitely the lead singers in Destiny's Child, it was only in Anjel group that LaTavia and LeToya sang lead, otherwise in Destiny's Child in the main songs and live concerts, they were never allowed to sing lead yet in my humble opinion, LeToya for example could sing lead even if only in a few songs ... Farrah, too, was never allowed to sing lead ... Curiously, when Destiny's Child became a trio, Michelle was the only member of the group to be allowed to sing lead and Beyonce had this to say : "We've found the right recipe for harmonies, everybody gets to sing lead now, because everybody can sing leads, it's the first time it's ever happened in Destiny's Child history" ...
"Moving on" : "I ain't mad at you, you did what you had to do", "I forgive you" "Survivor": "now i got you out of my life I'm so much much better", "thought we wouldn't sell without you, we sold millions" My opinion: moving on > survivor
@@lucasorlando99 u r right. Thats why all of the girls are very good friends again today. Bey, Kelly, Chelle, Toya, and Tavia are sisters. Mathew Knowles was the real culprit. He lied to Beyonce n Kelly. He wrote "Survivor" and then let Toya n Tavia drag Bey n Kelly in court over it. Because he felt that would only drive even more apart. Hes an evil man. LeToya has said to this day he hasnt apologized. Hes the only one. Even Ms.Tina n Solange apologized. Angela Beyince apologized, everyone did, except Mathew.
You can tell Letoya and Latavia were really hurt ! Instead of bashing them like bey and Kelly did in survivor they said they forgive them and they did what they had to do 🥺!
I've always loved Latoya & Latavia!! They're both amazing singers & beautiful women! Its so unfair to them how things were handled, i know they had to be extremely hurt! Its ashame that Anjel's songs couldn't get publicly released at the time these songs were made, i love them all!!
WOW ...AMAZING VOICE OF LATAVIA......VERY NICE SONG...............AROUND THE WORLD STILL WAITING FOR LATAVIA.........WE NEED YOU COME BACK WITH SOLO CAREER LATAVIA........AFTER TEN YEARS I NEVER FORGET MISS LATAVIA....THE ORIGIONAL OF DESTINY'S CHILD.....WE LOVE YOU LATAVIA
I feel this song too much as a person coming from a similar background this is felt. I’m glad that things are better now. Thank God 🙏🏾 but memories I feel this.
Dan they Letoya and latavia song back up for so long I never knew latavia had amazing voice so different!!! love it girl. I also seen her on housewives of al n she was crying about how she wants a come back.... girl get on it !!!
@@TVwriter23 but not young enough to do Toni’s BG’s and tour with her? Plus she was a child in ‘The Braxtons’ as well- If Mrs E and Micheal Braxton did that it was messy
No I too was a fan of LaTavia Roberson & LeToya Luckett and I remember the group having a picture in S2S magazine so I looked into them and I like there sound as a group...I mean that ship has sailed and went to another place but oh well Lol....
2:42-2:52 is everything LaToya blacked out From 2:30 reminds me of classic DC also I could hear why they chose Michelle, Latvia tone sounded similar at 2:54
@JrodLuvn The thing is...LaTavia was the only one out of her and LeToya who actually got a lead on a an album...LaTavia sang the first verse of SWEET SIXTEEN from The Writing's On The Wall album...even though LeToya was always the better singer - not saying LaTavia is bad, but the Anjel demos show that LeToya had potential that has now been developed and showcased with her sucessful solo career
They were dismissed because matthew knowles wanted to be a slime dog and didnt want to be called out on it. he lied to beyonce about why they didnt want him as their manager so beyonce not realizing her father was a scumbag went along with it. listen to the song survivor you can tell she was told something else. to bad she (beyonce) found out the truth about her dad years later.. I can hear the hurt in Latavias verse. she was there in the beginning and was beyonces best friend.
See Letoya and Latavia could blow even back then but when in dc u only heard bey and Kelly smh they got the short end of the stick they were basically backup with more talent than bey and Kelly smh
@@JCole-fg3rr clock them. These people come on here and lie all the time. We have heard their solo songs and nobody is touching Beyonce in technique and difficulty of songs. Beyonce's songs like Listen, Love on Top, I care, Speechless clear everything Kelly, Toya or Michelle has ever sung. We can love these girls without lying about their talent.
You people come on here and lie all the time. We have heard their solo songs and nobody is touching Beyonce in technique and difficulty of songs. Beyonce's songs like Listen, Love on Top, I care, Speechless clear everything Kelly, Toya or Michelle has ever sung. We can love these girls without lying about their talent.
@@money-dl1jwI'm not questioning LaTavia and LeToya's vocal abilities, but let's be honest, Beyonce and Kelly have much stronger voices, which is why they were given the role of lead singers in Destiny's Child (DC4) : Beyonce (first lead singer) and Kelly (second lead singer) ... In the end, LeToya could try to play the role of lead singer in Destiny's Child (DC4), but honestly, LaTavia clearly couldn't play the role of lead singer in Destiny's Child, so making LaTavia and LeToya back-up singers in Destiny's Child : LaTavia (back-up singer in the group as alto voice and at the same time spokesperson for the group) and LeToya ( back-up singer in the group as soprano voice) was perfectly reasonable ...
@@rjperez7399I'm not questioning LaTavia and LeToya's vocal abilities, but let's be honest, Beyonce and Kelly have much stronger voices, which is why they were given the role of lead singers in Destiny's Child (DC4) : Beyonce (first lead singer) and Kelly (second lead singer) ... In the end, LeToya could try to play the role of lead singer in Destiny's Child (DC4), but honestly, LaTavia clearly couldn't play the role of lead singer in Destiny's Child, so making LaTavia and LeToya back-up singers in Destiny's Child : LaTavia (back-up singer in the group as alto voice and at the same time spokesperson for the group) and LeToya ( back-up singer in the group as soprano voice) was perfectly reasonable ...
I don’t think so... Destiny’s Child didn’t go mainstream until they left the group! It’s just something about them becoming a trio that just clicked with the mainstream audience! With the 4 members I think they would’ve stayed solely r&b & been a group that never crossed over! LeToya & Latavia had very urban looks & personalities... Kelly Michelle Bey has that pop appeal... also I don’t think Bey would’ve become as big as she is bcuz she probably would’ve not gone solo so early!
B MOORE they didn’t become mainstream until Say My Name! After that the sound of their music changed from r&b to pop/r&b... wouldn’t have never happened had they stayed as a foursome bcuz the dynamics of the group & it’s sound & appeal just wouldn’t have worked!
Matthew Knowles did those girls fucked up and dirty, he was the one who kicked them out of the group but karma's a bitch what goes around comes back around
You people come on here and lie all the time. We have heard their solo songs and nobody is touching Beyonce in technique and difficulty of songs. Beyonce's songs like Listen, Love on Top, I care, Speechless clear everything Kelly, Toya or Michelle has ever sung. We can love these girls without lying about their talent.
If anyone owns the "Writings on the Wall" CD like I do (not bootleg thank you), you can read their personal "thank yous" and it becomes real obvious that there was major tension. B & K wrote to each other, while L & L wrote to each other, with all talking about the hard times they were experiencing. Read it if you don't believe me. . anyways who really gives a Sh@#
What are the word in the background at the end around the 3:14 mark when they are saying "I ain't mad no more I'm moving on cause I know down inside you know you wrong I never tried to do nobody wrong" what are they saying after that part because I can't understand or figure it out?
The song is actually pretty good. If you fixed the sound and added better quality, this could be a hit! Yeah It would be nice for ALL 6 members to reunite and put beyonce on background vocals for a change, lol
I honestly don't think Beyonce and Kelly wanted the 2 to go, Honestly Beyonce was still a kid and of course she is going to listen to her dad, I mean who wouldn't, they should of had a better manager so the group could be treated fair and not just let Beyonce get more of the share but I guess everything happens for a reason I love this so g though it gives the two to tell how they feel about this thing
They did, but she died of Lupus. He came and took over. All these girls asked for was better treatment than they were getting. I think Matthew was upset because LaTavia and LeToya's parents wouldn't sign over guardianship to Matthew. Hell no I wouldn't either especially when you look at how he had them training etc. A letter to Matthew asking for better treatment did that. They may should have talked to Bey and Kelly, but at the same time, they were right that they should have had separate management. Kelly should have too, because he did her so wrong for years. At least she finally realized that and moved on to better management.
They might have been right about LaTavia but LeToya sounds good here (and still today) so idk why they said the thing about them both not being able to sing like that
If this is just Latavia and Letoya its so OBVIOUS that they are the HARMONY of DC....Sounds just like a DC song...so nice to hear them with out Bey and Kelly drowning them out
@@JCole-fg3rr clock them. These people come on here and lie all the time. We have heard their solo songs and nobody is touching Beyonce in technique and difficulty of songs. Beyonce's songs like Listen, Love on Top, I care, Speechless clear everything Kelly, Toya or Michelle has ever sung. We can love these girls without lying about their talent.
Beyonce was one of the people who wanted LaTavia and LeToya out of the group, not because she didn't like them, but because she didn't think they were talented enough to take Destiny's Child to the next level ... Beyonce has always been cordial and friendly with LaTavia and LeToya, she's always appreciated their friendships but Beyonce is a perfectionist, she wanted to take Destiny's Child to the next level ... Beyonce and Kelly were definitely the lead singers of Destiny's Child (DC4) because their voices were much stronger, consistent and marketable compared to LaTavia and LeToya ... LaTavia and LeToya are undoubtedly talented, but they didn't have the level of Beyonce and Kelly ...
You know to me Destinys Child is a one women show anyway because how can a group still sell after 3 members were let go. I still do like the original 4 better but it was really wrong for Mathew to just let them girls go like that that was very sneaky but then again the girls outed themselves when they tried to get there own management, they knew that wasnt gonna fly.
they should move on I mean I want 2 b a singer(badly) but if the other band mates were treating me like crap or things were unfair within that group I would leave 2. shoot I commend Latavia and Letoya buisness and did what they had 2 do
The music industry is mercurial and unfortunately it has a lot of pitfalls. When you put God first. This doesn't happen. What happened to these girls was tragic. They were talented and deserved so much better. 😢
Actually they were a Group called "Anjel" & their Cd never hit the streets but they had a few jams in there but LaTavia Roberson voice is STILL A MESS!! Lol
Kyyndall Now that you're outta my life, I'm so much better You thought that I'd be weak without ya, but I'm stronger You thought that I'd be broke without ya, but I'm richer You thought that I'd be sad without ya, I love harder You thought I wouldn't grow without ya, now I'm wiser! You thought that I'd be helpless without ya but I'm smarter You thought that I'd be stressed without ya, but I'm chillin' You thought I wouldn't sell without ya, sold nine million How is this not a direct reference to the other girls they just kicked out?
I'm not questioning LaTavia and LeToya's vocal abilities, but let's be honest, Beyonce and Kelly have much stronger voices, which is why they were given the role of lead singers in Destiny's Child (DC4) : Beyonce (first lead singer) and Kelly (second lead singer) ... In the end, LeToya could try to play the role of lead singer in Destiny's Child (DC4), but honestly, LaTavia clearly couldn't play the role of lead singer in Destiny's Child, so making LaTavia and LeToya back-up singers in Destiny's Child : LaTavia (back-up singer in the group as alto voice and at the same time spokesperson for the group) and LeToya ( back-up singer in the group as soprano voice) was perfectly reasonable ...
They broke up because beyonce father kept showing favoritism to beyonce , x Kelly x lavtivia x latoya didn't like it , so they filed law suits. But he shouldn't of did that , they woulda still been together
They just wanted new management...and I guess Mr. Knowels wanted to be everyones manager, but I don't think he was being fair monetarily. They probably could've worked it out if they weren't kicked out...It was sad to see all those years of friendship go down the drain...hopefully time heals.
Exactly. The song sounded like they were crying and "spilling the beans". Then to drag two new members into that was a bad move. Seems like Jagged Edge would've known better. They should've just became a duo instead of trying to mimic Destiny's Child. They were young girls though, and devastated I could imagine. My thing is ... where were their parents and/or guardians? Wonder if they were advising them on any moves to make.
It's weird though because they went after Beyonce and Kelly for survivor, but Beyonce and Kelly didn't go after them for this song (well that we know of.) Anyways, i guess they all had the chance to spill how they felt.. Just two different ways. Beyonce and Kelly said they would survive no matter what and Latavia and LeToya said how they were hurt on what happened. I mean Beyonce said the song was about haters, but we could never know whether that included the other 2 original members or not.
No wonder they never sung lead atleast LaTavia, not that she is bad singer but this song does not compliment her voice. Good thing this song did not come out in public because it seems as if it it wouldnt be very successful and it has way too much information about the split to not be successful.
Ppl always seem to forget that Beyonce was the beginning of the group. She was intended to be the lead singer so therefore she had to be in the forefront of it all. These members auditioned for Beyonce to be in HER group lol.. don't get it twisted. These girls that fell off just wanted a bigger role in the wrong place. At the end of the day Beyonce rose to the top.. I haven't heard much music from Latavia as much as I been hearing her reminiscent interviews on how she got kicked out smh lol
this is a stupid song, but that would be hott if they all got back together including michelle. now I would pay to see that! oh yeah they shoulda had letoya sing lead on more stuff. she sings great. they dissed her vocals.
😂😂😂 This and all their other songs sound like D rated produced songs of that era. FOH! They couldn't get a major deal because these songs are terrible! 😂😂 The interludes on Survivor sounded better than all these "demos" lol. People hate Beyonce so much they will praise unreleased demos by an below average group 😂😂
This song wasnt that good. But um all of their songs were not garbage. You hating now. Yes this song along with a few others were not good. But alot of their songs on this demo were very good. Come on now. I understand not liking this song, be with you, lonely, and break by them because they are wack. However they have plenty of more songs that went hard.
clock them. These people come on here and lie all the time. We have heard their solo songs and nobody is touching Beyonce in technique, talent and difficulty of songs. Beyonce's songs like Listen, Love on Top, I care, Speechless clear everything Kelly, Toya or Michelle has ever sung. We can love these girls without lying about their talent. Even in Destiny fulfilled, Beyonce produced about 80% of their songs in terms of Vocals.
clock them. These people come on here and lie all the time. We have heard their solo songs and nobody is touching Beyonce in technique and difficulty of songs. Beyonce's songs like Listen, Love on Top, I care, Speechless clear everything Kelly, Toya or Michelle has ever sung. We can love these girls without lying about their talent.
I don't find this bitter but a song of encouragement. these women only did what a real song writer would do and that's putting their real life situations and emotions into their music. This song is for people who've been through tough situations and need encouragement to know time heals all wounds.
Ummm Jagged Edge we need this album professionally mastered and and all the unheard tracks placed in iTunes 🎉
YESS ASAP
wow i didn't know latavia's voice is like that, i loved it
She sounds like tboz
@@KC-ig4hy yep she sound like tboz
That because they didn’t want you to the dad would try to make letoya and latavia sing bad one of the vocal coaches said he would do it to them on purpose and also there vocal coach said all of them could sing just as good and he did it that way on purpose so nobody can say they can’t sing. Really the only thing that made Beyoncé different was her dad and her voice it’s not her singing her voice is light and kinda strong so it sounds nice and people like that she never could sing better
I will always love Latavia Robertson and Letoya Luckett the two original members of Destiny's child.
yo this is awesome. Letoyas verse really hit home. You can see the difference with how they felt vs how Bey and kelly felt with survivor. They didn’t throw any shade here
This song showed how hurt and confused Latavia and Letoya when it all went down and a humble response to Survivor which in all honesty was a brutal diss and tore them down but glad the ladies have grown and moved past the mess and realized that evil.man Matthew Knowles was the root of it all. I hope one day these can be Released on to streaming
That’s why sometimes I look in DC 2(not Michelle) in a questionably. It just doesn’t sit right with me. The way things were done after the break up. And the comments made. Nasty and underhanded. They coped well for young ladies. And Letoya on this track proves she should of been singing Lead. IDC.
Yeah survivor was really brutal. Destiny child already won they didn’t need to humiliate the girls even more
I can really hear latavia’s voice in this song and she sounds great
She’s leading the song
@@eclipseeditz9147 she opens not leads, letoya is lead
@@tajsimms8976Beyonce and Kelly were definitely the lead singers in Destiny's Child, it was only in Anjel group that LaTavia and LeToya sang lead, otherwise in Destiny's Child in the main songs and live concerts, they were never allowed to sing lead yet in my humble opinion, LeToya for example could sing lead even if only in a few songs ... Farrah, too, was never allowed to sing lead ...
Curiously, when Destiny's Child became a trio, Michelle was the only member of the group to be allowed to sing lead and Beyonce had this to say : "We've found the right recipe for harmonies, everybody gets to sing lead now, because everybody can sing leads, it's the first time it's ever happened in Destiny's Child history" ...
"Moving on" : "I ain't mad at you, you did what you had to do", "I forgive you"
"Survivor": "now i got you out of my life I'm so much much better", "thought we wouldn't sell without you, we sold millions"
My opinion: moving on > survivor
Brandon Johnson Grammy>>>
Brandon Johnson Matthew Knowles is to blame he lied to Beyoncé and Kelly saying that Letoya and LaTavia quit but in reality he fired them
@@lucasorlando99 Mathew was the root of the issues, he is ruthless
@@lucasorlando99 u r right. Thats why all of the girls are very good friends again today. Bey, Kelly, Chelle, Toya, and Tavia are sisters. Mathew Knowles was the real culprit. He lied to Beyonce n Kelly. He wrote "Survivor" and then let Toya n Tavia drag Bey n Kelly in court over it. Because he felt that would only drive even more apart. Hes an evil man. LeToya has said to this day he hasnt apologized. Hes the only one. Even Ms.Tina n Solange apologized. Angela Beyince apologized, everyone did, except Mathew.
Matthew Harjo When Tina and Solange apologise?
i got mad luv for letoya and latavia. cant wait for that new letoya album!
Lady Love is a great album... the songs are wonderful. I am so proud of Toya's achievements
You can tell Letoya and Latavia were really hurt ! Instead of bashing them like bey and Kelly did in survivor they said they forgive them and they did what they had to do 🥺!
I've always loved Latoya & Latavia!! They're both amazing singers & beautiful women! Its so unfair to them how things were handled, i know they had to be extremely hurt! Its ashame that Anjel's songs couldn't get publicly released at the time these songs were made, i love them all!!
Happy Birthday LaTavia Marie Roberson!
WOW ...AMAZING VOICE OF LATAVIA......VERY NICE SONG...............AROUND THE WORLD STILL WAITING FOR LATAVIA.........WE NEED YOU COME BACK WITH SOLO CAREER LATAVIA........AFTER TEN YEARS I NEVER FORGET MISS LATAVIA....THE ORIGIONAL OF DESTINY'S CHILD.....WE LOVE YOU LATAVIA
I feel this song too much as a person coming from a similar background this is felt. I’m glad that things are better now. Thank God 🙏🏾 but memories I feel this.
This song always makes me sad :(
Dan they Letoya and latavia song back up for so long I never knew latavia had amazing voice so different!!! love it girl. I also seen her on housewives of al n she was crying about how she wants a come back.... girl get on it !!!
Come on LaTavia & LeToya !!! Sanggggg!! This still my jam. And the lyrics are everything! 😁❤❤❤
This song was kinda dedicated to their old group.
at 2:14 she says, "Funny how I thought it was my destiny."
2:14
Letoya got a pretty voice periodt
I understand why Latavia and Letoya didn’t lead songs in Destiny’s Child. They CAN sing!
W. Ray And Anjels other music🔥🔥
True they singin!!
Remember the original lead was Tamar. They got signed and Tamars parents decided she was too young
@@TVwriter23 but not young enough to do Toni’s BG’s and tour with her? Plus she was a child in ‘The Braxtons’ as well- If Mrs E and Micheal Braxton did that it was messy
@@AgingLikeWine Different Tamar hon
Latavia sounds like Tboz
This puts their point of view in perspective. One line says " we didn't even finish school".
Why is this still my favorite song by Anjel & Missing You is also my jam...:)
YEAH ITS A NICE SONG IT WAS MY FIRST TIME HEARING IT AND SHE DOES SOUND LIKE T-B0Z A LIL BIT
your favorite by them? were u in the group because I had never heard of them until now? ;-) #noshade
No I too was a fan of LaTavia Roberson & LeToya Luckett and I remember the group having a picture in S2S magazine so I looked into them and I like there sound as a group...I mean that ship has sailed and went to another place but oh well Lol....
I like Missing you too I wish they made a video for these two songs
"Lingerie" is my jam & "Missing You" is a good one also, oh & "Me & My Boyfriend"....lol
WOW this song is clearly tlking about the break up. glad to know they're all better and friends now
My mom said she really miss the orriginal destinys child
That was my favorite line up
Stacy Robinson Mine too! After they left the group was good but incomplete. My eye would always go to LeToya and LaTavia
2:42-2:52 is everything LaToya blacked out
From 2:30 reminds me of classic DC
also I could hear why they chose Michelle, Latvia tone sounded similar at 2:54
i blame matthew for this group breaking up i don't blame beyonce but matthew own daughter kicked him to the curve so he got what was coming to him
He was just mad cause their parents had common sense and said no to giving him guardianship
loves it they should all make a reunion
So thankful for TH-cam.
This song would have gotten major airplay.
It's sounds different I need this on my iphone !!'
@JrodLuvn The thing is...LaTavia was the only one out of her and LeToya who actually got a lead on a an album...LaTavia sang the first verse of SWEET SIXTEEN from The Writing's On The Wall album...even though LeToya was always the better singer - not saying LaTavia is bad, but the Anjel demos show that LeToya had potential that has now been developed and showcased with her sucessful solo career
Btw Latavia sounds great on sweet sixteen
Not as shady as "Survivor" though.
Thank you. Exactly!
kelly and Letoya are best of friends now
Now I see why they asked latavia to replace Kandi in xscape.. rasp is her reality
it would have been a great opportunity for her! but she refused, she had to take care of her parents I think
@ the 3:45 mark, the outfits are very similar to the Say My Name garage scene outfits.
yeah those clothes Michelle and Farrah were wearing in the video were the old members clothes that they paid for but didn't get to wear.
not its not theyre different clothes
That's not even possible, they were totally different sizes.
They were dismissed because matthew knowles wanted to be a slime dog and didnt want to be called out on it. he lied to beyonce about why they didnt want him as their manager so beyonce not realizing her father was a scumbag went along with it. listen to the song survivor you can tell she was told something else. to bad she (beyonce) found out the truth about her dad years later.. I can hear the hurt in Latavias verse. she was there in the beginning and was beyonces best friend.
See Letoya and Latavia could blow even back then but when in dc u only heard bey and Kelly smh they got the short end of the stick they were basically backup with more talent than bey and Kelly smh
Kelly too though. I mean it took Kelly's album to do well to realize that Matthew was not doing her right.
You are delusional lmao. They will never be more talented than Beyoncé.
@@JCole-fg3rr clock them. These people come on here and lie all the time. We have heard their solo songs and nobody is touching Beyonce in technique and difficulty of songs. Beyonce's songs like Listen, Love on Top, I care, Speechless clear everything Kelly, Toya or Michelle has ever sung. We can love these girls without lying about their talent.
You people come on here and lie all the time. We have heard their solo songs and nobody is touching Beyonce in technique and difficulty of songs. Beyonce's songs like Listen, Love on Top, I care, Speechless clear everything Kelly, Toya or Michelle has ever sung. We can love these girls without lying about their talent.
@@money-dl1jwI'm not questioning LaTavia and LeToya's vocal abilities, but let's be honest, Beyonce and Kelly have much stronger voices, which is why they were given the role of lead singers in Destiny's Child (DC4) : Beyonce (first lead singer) and Kelly (second lead singer) ...
In the end, LeToya could try to play the role of lead singer in Destiny's Child (DC4), but honestly, LaTavia clearly couldn't play the role of lead singer in Destiny's Child, so making LaTavia and LeToya back-up singers in Destiny's Child : LaTavia (back-up singer in the group as alto voice and at the same time spokesperson for the group) and LeToya ( back-up singer in the group as soprano voice) was perfectly reasonable ...
They should've never let success get in the way of their friendship. Success lasts for a little while friendship lasts a lifetime.
I didn't know the two could sing like that back then. That is sad that they didn't let them sing lead in any of the songs.
In with me pt 1 bey wasn't in the chorus and Kelly was barely in the chorus so listen to it
@@rjperez7399I'm not questioning LaTavia and LeToya's vocal abilities, but let's be honest, Beyonce and Kelly have much stronger voices, which is why they were given the role of lead singers in Destiny's Child (DC4) : Beyonce (first lead singer) and Kelly (second lead singer) ...
In the end, LeToya could try to play the role of lead singer in Destiny's Child (DC4), but honestly, LaTavia clearly couldn't play the role of lead singer in Destiny's Child, so making LaTavia and LeToya back-up singers in Destiny's Child : LaTavia (back-up singer in the group as alto voice and at the same time spokesperson for the group) and LeToya ( back-up singer in the group as soprano voice) was perfectly reasonable ...
The original DC could’ve been bigger than DC3 easily and tighter harmonies
I don’t think so... Destiny’s Child didn’t go mainstream until they left the group! It’s just something about them becoming a trio that just clicked with the mainstream audience! With the 4 members I think they would’ve stayed solely r&b & been a group that never crossed over! LeToya & Latavia had very urban looks & personalities... Kelly Michelle Bey has that pop appeal... also I don’t think Bey would’ve become as big as she is bcuz she probably would’ve not gone solo so early!
Glamgirl they went mainstream with no no no part 2 and bug a boo.. they gained more exposure because the girls were kicked out the group
B MOORE they didn’t become mainstream until Say My Name! After that the sound of their music changed from r&b to pop/r&b... wouldn’t have never happened had they stayed as a foursome bcuz the dynamics of the group & it’s sound & appeal just wouldn’t have worked!
Glamgirl it was my opinion lol.. I’m not arguing but I definitely respect your option.. and I do agree with some of it
@@obamatherealdeal08 michelle is gospel...she is not pop .
Does anyone have the just for me commercial wth latavia? I remember it but can find nothing on the net.
Thank god they are dc5
Beyonce and LeToya were my favorite members of DC4. I was so bummed out when LeToya got fired. I thought she quit the group at first.
Matthew Knowles did those girls fucked up and dirty, he was the one who kicked them out of the group but karma's a bitch what goes around comes back around
You people come on here and lie all the time. We have heard their solo songs and nobody is touching Beyonce in technique and difficulty of songs. Beyonce's songs like Listen, Love on Top, I care, Speechless clear everything Kelly, Toya or Michelle has ever sung. We can love these girls without lying about their talent.
If anyone owns the "Writings on the Wall" CD like I do (not bootleg thank you), you can read their personal "thank yous" and it becomes real obvious that there was major tension. B & K wrote to each other, while L & L wrote to each other, with all talking about the hard times they were experiencing. Read it if you don't believe me. . anyways who really gives a Sh@#
Let me see that where's the link
Yeah you are right I noticed it, too... there clearly was a split
I read the thank you notes... they ALL acknowledge and said I love you to each other
Yep. I remember it. I had the CD back in the day.
I remember that book inside and it had a pullout with them all sitting on chairs posing
Wooow i never knew they formed a group after. I wonder if survivor came out first and then they made this? 😮
@yantravimana i agree but they were best friends, practically sisters since elementary school
What are the word in the background at the end around the 3:14 mark when they are saying "I ain't mad no more I'm moving on cause I know down inside you know you wrong I never tried to do nobody wrong" what are they saying after that part because I can't understand or figure it out?
@Larry Banks they actually were a good group & this song & "Missing You" was my jam also!!
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people if u listen to sweet sixteen by destinys child latavia sing first lead
David Lee Brewer is my voice coach and train Original DC and Anjel
Where he from ?
The song is actually pretty good. If you fixed the sound and added better quality, this could be a hit! Yeah It would be nice for ALL 6 members to reunite and put beyonce on background vocals for a change, lol
I honestly don't think Beyonce and Kelly wanted the 2 to go, Honestly Beyonce was still a kid and of course she is going to listen to her dad, I mean who wouldn't, they should of had a better manager so the group could be treated fair and not just let Beyonce get more of the share but I guess everything happens for a reason I love this so g though it gives the two to tell how they feel about this thing
Trae Dotson Jagged Edge and Letoya's mom got the girls kicked out
Billy Larkin no she didn't?!
They did, but she died of Lupus. He came and took over. All these girls asked for was better treatment than they were getting. I think Matthew was upset because LaTavia and LeToya's parents wouldn't sign over guardianship to Matthew. Hell no I wouldn't either especially when you look at how he had them training etc.
A letter to Matthew asking for better treatment did that. They may should have talked to Bey and Kelly, but at the same time, they were right that they should have had separate management. Kelly should have too, because he did her so wrong for years. At least she finally realized that and moved on to better management.
I agree, they *should've.* #TheresNoSuchThingAsShouldOF
@@BillyLarkin31 GTFOHWTBS
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OMG SHE DOES~!!!!!!!! :D
They might have been right about LaTavia but LeToya sounds good here (and still today) so idk why they said the thing about them both not being able to sing like that
Latvia sounding like TBoz from TLC. It's a shame none of the songs from Anjel ever got released.
i thought the same thing!
If this is just Latavia and Letoya its so OBVIOUS that they are the HARMONY of DC....Sounds just like a DC song...so nice to hear them with out Bey and Kelly drowning them out
How are they the harmony when Beyoncé came up with everything and is the DC sound.
@@JCole-fg3rr girl get off my line
@@JCole-fg3rrexactly. just exaggerating
@@JCole-fg3rr clock them. These people come on here and lie all the time. We have heard their solo songs and nobody is touching Beyonce in technique and difficulty of songs. Beyonce's songs like Listen, Love on Top, I care, Speechless clear everything Kelly, Toya or Michelle has ever sung. We can love these girls without lying about their talent.
@@JCole-fg3rrNO TF SHE DIDNT LETOYA WROTE JUST AS MUCH
@BaybeeBubblez03 Ikr that girl has to be pushin forty
This is a pretty good song. And Beyonce and her fans said she couldn't sing
Lol i remember this!!
Bey lied about them not being able to sing.
Beyonce was one of the people who wanted LaTavia and LeToya out of the group, not because she didn't like them, but because she didn't think they were talented enough to take Destiny's Child to the next level ...
Beyonce has always been cordial and friendly with LaTavia and LeToya, she's always appreciated their friendships but Beyonce is a perfectionist, she wanted to take Destiny's Child to the next level ...
Beyonce and Kelly were definitely the lead singers of Destiny's Child (DC4) because their voices were much stronger, consistent and marketable compared to LaTavia and LeToya ...
LaTavia and LeToya are undoubtedly talented, but they didn't have the level of Beyonce and Kelly ...
wat ever happened 2 latavia?
She stopped singing, basically
They were done wrong!
@CollegeboiQSTL so do you
@kinyadreyahoo Thats GOOD!
I wonder if Beyoncé & Kelly ever heard this.
They have
@@rjperez7399 did they?
They keep doing these DC 3 reunions lypsinging to dc4 vocals place do a DC 4 reunion
Their label probably didn't put any $ behind them.
they would of been really good! this song is really sad
You know to me Destinys Child is a one women show anyway because how can a group still sell after 3 members were let go. I still do like the original 4 better but it was really wrong for Mathew to just let them girls go like that that was very sneaky but then again the girls outed themselves when they tried to get there own management, they knew that wasnt gonna fly.
latavia was carrying this song!
they should move on I mean I want 2 b a singer(badly) but if the other band mates were treating me like crap or things were unfair within that group I would leave 2. shoot I commend Latavia and Letoya buisness and did what they had 2 do
The music industry is mercurial and unfortunately it has a lot of pitfalls. When you put God first. This doesn't happen. What happened to these girls was tragic. They were talented and deserved so much better. 😢
Wow how painful
Actually they were a Group called "Anjel" & their Cd never hit the streets but they had a few jams in there but LaTavia Roberson voice is STILL A MESS!! Lol
That's not nice...anyway how do you feel about her voice nowadays.
they got kicked out because the twins from jagged edge liked were dating latavia n letoya
No they wrote Matthew Knowles a letter about being treated better than they were vs Bey and Kelly
But Survivor wasn't about the girls specifically. It was geared to the press and everyone who made Beyonce seem like she was a wicked witch.
Kendall Hart "didn't think we'd sell without you, we sold millions" that's petty
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Kyyndall Now that you're outta my life, I'm so much better
You thought that I'd be weak without ya, but I'm stronger
You thought that I'd be broke without ya, but I'm richer
You thought that I'd be sad without ya, I love harder
You thought I wouldn't grow without ya, now I'm wiser!
You thought that I'd be helpless without ya but I'm smarter
You thought that I'd be stressed without ya, but I'm chillin'
You thought I wouldn't sell without ya, sold nine million
How is this not a direct reference to the other girls they just kicked out?
@@jermaphobic8308 you’re reaching
Even though these 2 can’t sing (in the words of Beyoncé and Kelly) I love this song
I'm not questioning LaTavia and LeToya's vocal abilities, but let's be honest, Beyonce and Kelly have much stronger voices, which is why they were given the role of lead singers in Destiny's Child (DC4) : Beyonce (first lead singer) and Kelly (second lead singer) ...
In the end, LeToya could try to play the role of lead singer in Destiny's Child (DC4), but honestly, LaTavia clearly couldn't play the role of lead singer in Destiny's Child, so making LaTavia and LeToya back-up singers in Destiny's Child : LaTavia (back-up singer in the group as alto voice and at the same time spokesperson for the group) and LeToya ( back-up singer in the group as soprano voice) was perfectly reasonable ...
What a bitter song but they said what they had to say.
Dréya B ummm... did you hear survivor
How is this song bitter?
i luv Letoya as a solo artist, i was always a LeToya fan when she was in DC, but ima be honest and say i wasn't impressed wit what i heard with Anjel
They broke up because beyonce father kept showing favoritism to beyonce , x Kelly x lavtivia x latoya didn't like it , so they filed law suits. But he shouldn't of did that , they woulda still been together
They also asked for separate representation
This is basically if Destiny's Child kicked Beyonce (and Kelly) out
They just wanted new management...and I guess Mr. Knowels wanted to be everyones manager, but I don't think he was being fair monetarily. They probably could've worked it out if they weren't kicked out...It was sad to see all those years of friendship go down the drain...hopefully time heals.
I feel like making this song was a bad move for them because it made them seem bitter honestly
Exactly. The song sounded like they were crying and "spilling the beans". Then to drag two new members into that was a bad move. Seems like Jagged Edge would've known better. They should've just became a duo instead of trying to mimic Destiny's Child. They were young girls though, and devastated I could imagine. My thing is ... where were their parents and/or guardians? Wonder if they were advising them on any moves to make.
It's weird though because they went after Beyonce and Kelly for survivor, but Beyonce and Kelly didn't go after them for this song (well that we know of.) Anyways, i guess they all had the chance to spill how they felt.. Just two different ways. Beyonce and Kelly said they would survive no matter what and Latavia and LeToya said how they were hurt on what happened. I mean Beyonce said the song was about haters, but we could never know whether that included the other 2 original members or not.
+datgurlky1 you make a very good point
Nah what sounded bitter was survivor this was their song of how they felt and moving on,
@@navarriosmith6961 They recorded this song for an album that never came out.
Letoya voice is nice. She can't hold Beyoncé and Kelly but she's noticeable
+Likedbymany kelly shits on letoya
Nobody cares about Beyonce and Kelly
Beyonce was lied to by her father he still in tryna stop them from getting back close
lol meeh 2 an it sux cuz i don wanna lol
This song shady as hell tho.
No wonder they never sung lead atleast LaTavia, not that she is bad singer but this song does not compliment her voice. Good thing this song did not come out in public because it seems as if it it wouldnt be very successful and it has way too much information about the split to not be successful.
Ppl always seem to forget that Beyonce was the beginning of the group. She was intended to be the lead singer so therefore she had to be in the forefront of it all. These members auditioned for Beyonce to be in HER group lol.. don't get it twisted. These girls that fell off just wanted a bigger role in the wrong place. At the end of the day Beyonce rose to the top.. I haven't heard much music from Latavia as much as I been hearing her reminiscent interviews on how she got kicked out smh lol
Beyonce AND LaTavia were the beginning of the group. Kelly (and later LeToya) auditioned for Girls Tyme/Destiny's Child.
Tinker B I always thought Kelly & Bey were cousins
Actually it was Tamar
Well technically in girls time Beyonce didn’t start out as the lead singer the original lead quit.. but her and tavia were the beginning core of DC
Apparently Keke Wyatt was meant to be in the group in the early stages as Girls Time but left/ replaced with Beyonce
this is a stupid song, but that would be hott if they all got back together including michelle. now I would pay to see that!
oh yeah they shoulda had letoya sing lead on more stuff. she sings great. they dissed her vocals.
Wack
mk but this is like a group of mediocre background singers?
to the left hater.
😂😂😂 This and all their other songs sound like D rated produced songs of that era. FOH! They couldn't get a major deal because these songs are terrible! 😂😂 The interludes on Survivor sounded better than all these "demos" lol. People hate Beyonce so much they will praise unreleased demos by an below average group 😂😂
This song wasnt that good. But um all of their songs were not garbage. You hating now. Yes this song along with a few others were not good. But alot of their songs on this demo were very good. Come on now. I understand not liking this song, be with you, lonely, and break by them because they are wack. However they have plenty of more songs that went hard.
No Anjel didn't become a famous group is because some studio was falling apart
clock them. These people come on here and lie all the time. We have heard their solo songs and nobody is touching Beyonce in technique, talent and difficulty of songs. Beyonce's songs like Listen, Love on Top, I care, Speechless clear everything Kelly, Toya or Michelle has ever sung. We can love these girls without lying about their talent. Even in Destiny fulfilled, Beyonce produced about 80% of their songs in terms of Vocals.
this song is whack af
I agree. It could have been much better.
clock them. These people come on here and lie all the time. We have heard their solo songs and nobody is touching Beyonce in technique and difficulty of songs. Beyonce's songs like Listen, Love on Top, I care, Speechless clear everything Kelly, Toya or Michelle has ever sung. We can love these girls without lying about their talent.