Pylos - History of the City of Nestor (1600-1180 BC)

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  • The city of Pylos was one of the biggest and most significant centers of the Mycenaean Greece. In this episode, we go through the history of this wealthy Bronze Age city.
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  • @taybak8446
    @taybak8446 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Wow! I did not know that Nestor's descendants continued on as Athenian nobility. Thanks for all this great information.

    • @joshjacob1530
      @joshjacob1530 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      damn so my ancesor literally like created democracy and shieet. We wuz republicans.

  • @mercianthane2503
    @mercianthane2503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Mycenaean story is always welcome and appreciated. Bronze age Greece is full mysteries.

    • @muffin6369
      @muffin6369 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hey Peeps I watch "In Search of The Trojan War" presented by the GREAT GREAT GREAT Michael Wood. He also did "In the Footsteps of Alexander the Great." I just watched another awesome doc Lost Cities of The Ancients 3 series one on of course those crazy Labarna (King) of the Hittites, and one on Lost City of Ramesees II about Pi-Ramesses. That one was with the great archaeologist Mnfred Biatok.

  • @Jippa_33
    @Jippa_33 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wanax has some of the most informative videos on Ancient Greece on TH-cam.

    • @WanaxTV
      @WanaxTV  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Appreciate it! 💯

  • @muffin6369
    @muffin6369 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love World of Antiquity with Dr, Miano!!!! I love it when he blasts Graham Hancock.

  • @ivacho9428
    @ivacho9428 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you for this channel!! I'm trying to write a novel set in the Mycenaean era and your content helps a lot. Greetins from Argentina

    • @WanaxTV
      @WanaxTV  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for the feedback! You are always welcome to reach out at wanaxtv@gmail.com

  • @Bogey1022
    @Bogey1022 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Sandy Pylos.... Somewhere scrawled into the plaster "Telemachus was here"

  • @PathsUnwritten
    @PathsUnwritten 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I visited the Palace of Nestor last week. It's a significant distance from the modern city of Pylos, where the ancient city would have presumably been. This seems a little odd considering most other Mycenaean cities had their palaces in walled acropoli at the heart of the city.

    • @talyn3932
      @talyn3932 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pylos was ancient, its possible it was built before they adopted that convention?

    • @uselesscoffeemachine
      @uselesscoffeemachine 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pylos was not in any danger before the Dorians and Sea Peoples, so the palace did not have to be in a location where it could be defended, but its odd from the administrative perspective.

    • @Alusnovalotus
      @Alusnovalotus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Seems Mycenaean culture didn’t have that strong an impact on this region like it did in the east. From what I’ve read, they seem to have copied Minoan Crete more. Especially now that we know they copied the Minoan alphabet, sea faring trade and that there was much more literary evidence at Pylos than anywhere else in mainland Greece.

    • @Salonicasoccerbattle
      @Salonicasoccerbattle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The ancient city was near the palace,the site was abandoned after the palaces ruined in 1180BC. Modern city was inhabited later. Mykenai also was abandoned after the destruction of the city around the same time.

    • @douglaskingsman2565
      @douglaskingsman2565 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't follow. Pylos probably had an akropolis with a palace. Just because modern Pylos was built further away means nothing. Ancient Mycenae is distinct from the current village of Mykenai too.

  • @jonhstonk7998
    @jonhstonk7998 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love the bronze age! i never knew about pylos tho i want to know more about other polis too!!

  • @muffin6369
    @muffin6369 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have fav videographers that put out better history and archaeology than ANY history channel. Here's a few.....Pete Kelly he has 2 pete kelly and history Time. He writes, produces all of it. All of these guys do it all. History with Cy, Get factual, Fall of Civilizations Paul Cooper there a ton of them and having grown up listening to the old Schweppes commercials with Alexander Scourby!!!! I got hooked on voices and presentations.

  • @EstateCareMV
    @EstateCareMV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hope to see more Sparta videos soon! Great work.

    • @douglaskingsman2565
      @douglaskingsman2565 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sparta is so overdone. It was not important as a city-state in the Mycenaean Age. Lakonia itself was the real home of Tynareos and Menelaos.

  • @ΓιώργοςΑφθονίδης
    @ΓιώργοςΑφθονίδης 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There are some mistakes in the map : Northern Thessaly (Magoula near modern Makryhori village), parts of Makedonia (excavations have been made in Mount Olymbos and script in Linear B in Western Makedonia) and North-eastern Aegean island of Lesvos (as well as Cyprus) where also parts of the Mycenean world. There aren't many excavations in Makedonia, but there are some evidences.

  • @thodorisx8875
    @thodorisx8875 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Make a video about the history of arcadia!we waiting...

  • @secularstones
    @secularstones 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Consider this progression: Pylos -> Peleset -> Philistine Could it be that the Peleset who attacked Egypt at the close of the bronze age were in fact the people of Pylos?

    • @talyn3932
      @talyn3932 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think they are pretty sure that the Peleset were from Crete. Pele was a common sound in a lot of people in the region, Peleponese, Pelasgian, etc... Cool idea though!

  • @ΠαναγιώτηςΖώης-ι6ψ
    @ΠαναγιώτηςΖώης-ι6ψ ปีที่แล้ว

    Love from Athens to all who read ancient history...

  • @NovaSeven
    @NovaSeven 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoyed this video, but there are a couple small mistakes on the map (2:36): the (modern) settlement near Pylos is called “Iklaina” not “Iklania.”
    Also, Pylos (“Palace of Nestor”) is about 2.5 miles NW of Iklaina, but on the map it is located to the SW at the coastal site that Iron Age Greeks called Cape Coryphasium [Koryphasion] (see Thucydides 4.3), which lies across the bay from the modern city called Pilos (Navarino).

  • @LuciusQuinctiusCincinnatus111
    @LuciusQuinctiusCincinnatus111 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is very cooool chanal about ancient greece! Hi from russia! I am to interested by Mycennaenan civilization))))

  • @veronicalogotheti5416
    @veronicalogotheti5416 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @jarlnils435
    @jarlnils435 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wasn't the ruler of Theben not Mykene, the one, who was called Brother by the great king of Hatti?

  • @Alusnovalotus
    @Alusnovalotus หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:42
    I think that's a bit of a stretch with 50,000 -120,000 inhabitants, considering the arable land around it, the technology in sewage systems and fresh water resources there. Wouldn't older centers be even more populated than Pylos at this time? Babylon barely Passed 70,000 inhabitants and it stood a millenium before Pylos at the time.

  • @LuciusQuinctiusCincinnatus111
    @LuciusQuinctiusCincinnatus111 ปีที่แล้ว

    What did I use to reconstruct the battle?

  • @alexanderguesthistorical7842
    @alexanderguesthistorical7842 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My thoughts are; Pelasgians=descendants of the neolithic people. The name coming from Pylos. Peleset ('Sea Peoples') = those from the kingdom of Pylos.

  • @LuciusQuinctiusCincinnatus111
    @LuciusQuinctiusCincinnatus111 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am subscrubed)

  • @LuciusQuinctiusCincinnatus111
    @LuciusQuinctiusCincinnatus111 ปีที่แล้ว

    how to contact you?

  • @douglaskingsman2565
    @douglaskingsman2565 ปีที่แล้ว

    The "blink" of collapse??

  • @Salonicasoccerbattle
    @Salonicasoccerbattle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this kind of videos but there are many mistakes in this one. For example the griffin warrior grave was not a tholos. And it is dated ca 1450 BC.

  • @muffin6369
    @muffin6369 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The Real Big Wanax here Michael Ventries/John Chadwick deciphered Linear B. Linear A STILL no such luck.

  • @LuciusQuinctiusCincinnatus111
    @LuciusQuinctiusCincinnatus111 ปีที่แล้ว

    I made a diagram of the Mycenaean society and I am writing a Wikipedia article about the Mycenaean civilization

  • @henkstersmacro-world
    @henkstersmacro-world ปีที่แล้ว

    👍👍👍

  • @diktatoralexander88
    @diktatoralexander88 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    *P I Y A M A R A D U*

  • @viorelpiscanu9425
    @viorelpiscanu9425 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is more fiction than reality thanks to that existiting(!?) Homer(s).... Myths are so much loved by humans ../

  • @manfredfruhauf3557
    @manfredfruhauf3557 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is your mother-tongue?

  • @hanswi336
    @hanswi336 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why are you singing in all your videos ??

  • @douglaskingsman2565
    @douglaskingsman2565 ปีที่แล้ว

    Never 120k people!

  • @JimmyTheGreek2000
    @JimmyTheGreek2000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not pielos! It is Pylos or Pilos !

  • @hessgdesd
    @hessgdesd ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you