I felt the conversation around 20:11 in my core. Lots of churches need to step back and reevaluate Jesus the Messiah. We have turned being a disciple into something you do instead of someone you are. Our discipleship should look a whole lot more like the life Jesus told John's disciples to consider than the Pharisees gathering in the synagogue. The proclamation of the kingdom is always paired with Kingdom works by kingdom priests.
Add to my previous statement what Wes had to say around 23:00. In the system of which I have grown up, we are so concerned with getting people in the water, and making that the standard of judging our sucess, that we have completely lost teaching counting the cost before people take on "christianity". It has watered down our discipleship and kingdom influence.
Great conversation , very insightful!
I felt the conversation around 20:11 in my core. Lots of churches need to step back and reevaluate Jesus the Messiah. We have turned being a disciple into something you do instead of someone you are. Our discipleship should look a whole lot more like the life Jesus told John's disciples to consider than the Pharisees gathering in the synagogue. The proclamation of the kingdom is always paired with Kingdom works by kingdom priests.
Add to my previous statement what Wes had to say around 23:00. In the system of which I have grown up, we are so concerned with getting people in the water, and making that the standard of judging our sucess, that we have completely lost teaching counting the cost before people take on "christianity". It has watered down our discipleship and kingdom influence.