This ONE setting on the Mini 3 pro could CRASH your drone - Be CAREFUL using this!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 เม.ย. 2023
- This video will show how this one setting on the mini 3 pro could crash your drone. In my opinion, this feature is bad.
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One aspect of lowering the brake value for a special session is, forgetting to set it back might be bad during a later flight.
Air pilots use checklists, line by line, but do drone pilots practise that discipline? How many drone pilots have made and read home made checklists? I don't think there are too many doing it....
A huge difficulty handling, setting, parameters is the hopelessly bad logic in the DJI way to spread the functions "all over the place". DJI stores functions as the squirrel store his nuts, every ware...
Great points 👍 you are taught this when taking the A2cofc.
@@nobby-green Yes, and being a private pilot earlier in life.
Excellent point. Having a short checklist or a couple of them depending on the flight purpose is a great idea. maybe some more experienced users here could help creating those.
@@tadengey Thanks! I'm a former privat pilot, active train engineer, but rather new to flying drones.
Being hot, testing something, starting the camera has been forgotten, starting the screen recording etc. Setting the max altitude often works as I'm flying in a restricted area near an airport.....
I can make my checklist out of what I have forgotten.....
@@ihaveurnose Likely being to hot to start, not patient enough, I someway seem to have missed the "manual" You refer to.
Can You provide a link to it? DJI general pages is not where I spend my time.
Not to be a killjoy, but most relatively experienced drone pilots realize the obstacle avoidance sensors are unable to pick up things like electric wires and small tree branches. This really has little or nothing to do with braking sensitivity.
I think you have missed the point. Settings the sensitivity to low means if you let go of the sticks in that scenario the drone is going to continue flying and potentially crash. Hope that makes sense 👍
I believe most obstacle avoidance systems on drones won't detect wires or thin branches but I understand what you mean, if you notice them in the FPV at the last moment, you won't be able to stop if brake sensitivity is set to low⚠️😲
I guess the only use of lowering brake sensitivity is to smooth out any abrupt stops you make to keep movements deliberately cinematic rather than jerky.👍
As long as the pilot understands the limitations, it is something that could be useful as long as it is used with caution.
Spot on 👍
The slow break mode is One feature I requested & is mostly used filming in cine mode. It gives a gentle stop to the video this is often required when you are shooting something very close. Sudden breaking looks bad & mostly have to cut the clips in editing. Slow breaking I almost get perfect clips without any edits.
It is indeed but you have to be careful when using in different modes 👍 thanks 🙏
Thank you so much for the informative video❤❤❤ sir . Greatings from Philippines
You’re welcome ☺️ glad you found it helpful 🙏
Thanks. Great info.
You’re welcome thanks 🙏
As always, informative; cheers from across the pond. 😊
Thanks Lambo 👍
Excellent points. Thanks for increasing our awareness of this sensitive setting.
Thanks you’re welcome 👍
Thanks Nobby you covered some very important points in this video.
Thanks Bob. 🙏
Excellent point sir...
Thank you 🙏
With respect to pausing the flight. If i suddenly was aware my drone was about to collide with something like a power line, i don’t think I would have time to react quickly enough to hit the pause button. I think my reaction would be to hit full reverse, rather than look down to hit pause. I’m new to drone flying and have a mini 3pro. Things aren’t muscle memory with me yet. I wouldn’t mess with the Brake sensitivity anyway. I’ve no desire to wreck my new drone. Great informative videos 😊
Once you get confident you will know by feel where that button is 😁 one good tip is if flying autonomous mode I.e quick shots, keep your finger over the button just in case 👍 thanks 🙏
Thanks for sharing 👍
You’re welcome 👍
Thanks for explaining, wires are not seen so you need to be careful. Have some experience with it since I sometimes inspect antennas with the mini 3 pro.
Thanks you’re welcome. Indeed you need to be careful 👍
I think the issue is the obstacle avoidance not picking up power lines (which we've always worried about) and not necessarily so much to do with the brake sensitivity, as it would hit the power lines irrespective of the brake sensitivity setting if you didn't see them. That said, you're braver than me flying so close to them :) but as I think we both agree, if you knock that brake sensitivity down, then you better not be relying on letting go of the sticks to stop fast as it will just go sailing on.... Pause Button is your friend
Hi Ian, yes indeed totally agree, but as we all know those power lines can creep up on you, and if its set to low and you spot them at the last minute and release the sticks it wouldn't stop abruptly as it would set to high. That was the point i was trying to make in the video. Thanks for the comment really appreciated 👍
@@nobby-green Yep. Spot on.... I've had 7 years getting used to stopping by letting go of the sticks and suddenly that's not going to be the right move....👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@@IaninLondon Absolutely! thank goodness for the pause button eh?😀👍
I just mentioned Ian from London in my comments.
@@africanhistory you did and I replied
Yea people whine for more control over their drones and then whine/ blame DJI when they crash. Good info Mr Green.
They do indeed. I’m all for tripod mode but slowing the braking speed is beyond me. Thanks 🙏
Brilliant Nobby, thank you mate. What a great little drone. Oh, im gonna get the free Epidemic trial, im setting up a youtube channel hopefully have some nice vids for you from lovely North Wales, Kev.
Great stuff Kev. Epidemic sounds are great. So much to choose from. Look forward to your videos. One of my favourite places is wales we was there last year 👍
Thank you for that Nobby. I do not have good eyes so I will keep my brake sensitivity set the maximum.
I would too Earle 👍
Also if your eyes are not good sir, then you will only be flying it around 50 m away from you so that should also keep you safe
@@LRSTUDIOCREATIONS 😁 nothing wrong with my eyes 😁
Thanks for the warning, Nobby. Cheers from Wisconsin, U.S.A.
Thanks George you're welcome 👍
Nice informative video👍👍👍
Thank you 🙏
Nice one Nobby
Thanks buddy 👍
Hello Nobby, I wonder if you could advise me please? I have the Mini3 pro with the new controller. It all works ok except after I take off the start up screen usually comes on, which has to be swiped away. Have you come across this problem at please?
Hi Graham. Sometimes it’s easy to catch the screen which can cause this. Hope it’s this that’s the problem 👍 thanks 🙏
Thanks Nobby, I don't think I touched the screen but I will look into it. SInce I contacted you I tried DJI tech support and they want me to send a video of the problem. I was wondering if the screen recorder which I have not used yet would show the problem or would I need a separate camera or phone pointed at the screen?
@@gbh1946 yea screen recording should be fine. The file will be in the movies folder on the sd card. It has happened to me before you can catch it with your palms when holding the controller 👍 hope this helps 🙏
Thanks again Nobby I will give it a go, trouble is if it did need a second camera I would have to wait until her indoors gets back from shopping as I only have the one pair of hands....I will give it a try in a few minutes. Cheers, Graham
Your theory is correct Nobby, I did a couple of tests and yes if I touch the screen randomly the Go fly screen appears a couple of seconds later, this is what was confusing - if it had appeared instantly I would have cottoned on straight away. Thanks again. I wonder if this is a "feature" not a fault? I will report back to dgi tech help and see what their reaction in. Many thanks....
Goodlookin because I’m gettin one today ❤💯
Enjoy buddy when it arrives 👍
Can adjusting the gains makenitngo faster then it used to originally
No you can only slow it down 👍 thanks 🙏
Good info Nobby, don’t want to fly your drone right into something because your settings are buggered, tbf that reminds me that I need to check my settings as I done the firmware update but forgot to check them👍🏻
Hi Kacper. Yes you need to double check your settings after a firmware update 👍
@@nobby-green yep normally I do but I forgot this time, cheers for reminding me :)
@@kacpermajewski81 😁
slow break mode is great for cinematic shots because the stop isn't as abrupt or jerky.
I agree as I said in the video. Doesn’t change what I explained
@@nobby-green This was good coverage of the break sensitivity. I felt that someone may not know what it could benefit or loose when making this change.
@@CreativelyJeff "I felt that someone may not know what it could benefit or loose when making this change."
Agreed. Tuning the Expo is an advanced feature. If you know what it is and does then you already know what it is and does 🙂
I don't think it's going to see the power lines or small branches no matter what the sensitivity is at. The only good thing is that with the high sensitivity you can stop quicker.
Absolutely 👍 so why put it there in the first place. Thanks 🙏
@@nobby-green I haven't changed from the default settings on mine. So many people want more and figure it's the saviour and going to prevent accidents. Wires and small branches have been the cause of many crashes that we see. Sideways movements has caused my two careless crashes. LOL
@@gbower1 yep that’s the cause of most crashes.
I disable sideways flight unless I need it for a specific shot
what are you doing flying around powerlines in th first place?
I thought that was pretty obvious showing that these drones don’t see them 👍
👍👍 good point to raise 👍👍
Thank you 🙏
Interesting video. The takeaway is we now have a brake sensitivity setting, and it's use does not change the positive behaviors of OA.
Indeed 😊
Agree Nobby, best left well alone! 🙈👍
Thanks David 🙏
You can also "break" using sticks. Fly forward with low "break sensitivity" and you need to suddenly stop. What now? Just reverse stick! Full reverse and see how it "breaks" with full power.
Yes you can but depends on your reaction time 👍
I'm sorry, i think I may be missing your point about brake sensitivity. You demonstrated that when the m3p sensors detect an object ahead the drone will full stop regardless of how low the brake sensitivity is set. When you tried the same with the power lines, the obstacle avoidance didn't detect them, so does it matter what the brake sensitivity is set at? It seems your issue is more the sensitivity or accuracy of the obstacle avoidance senosrs than the brake sensitivity? Am I just misunderstanding?
The point is if you let go of the sticks with it set to low it will continue not like it will abruptly stop set to high. Unless you use the pause button. It’s all about reacting quickly to certain situations 👍
@nobby-green ok, that I agree with completely. The M3p and obstacle avoidance is new to me, I've been flying a Mini 2 for about 18months. I think I was just confused by the demonstration, if the drones obstacle avoidance fails to sense something in the way it will hit it regardless of where the brake sensitivity is set, but yes, I agree if you are relying on pilot skill to avoid an obstacle and you have your brake sensitivity set too low, releasing the sticks may still result in your drone possibly "drifting" into whatever is in the way but only if the obstacle avoidance doesn't sense that object as well, yeah?
@@jasonwatts_wattstraveling yes that is correct. If it’s set low it will continue flying if it doesn’t see an object. If you have it high and let go of the sticks it will stop quickly as it does with hitting the pause button 👍
@@nobby-green cheers! Thanks for sharing your experience and info!
@@jasonwatts_wattstraveling you’re welcome 👍
National Grid's UK pylons are a minimum height of 118ft (36m), while the tallest are 623ft tall (190m), crossing the River Thames between Essex and Kent.
Interesting to know thanks 🙏
A vastly simpler demonstration of brake action is to fly the drone laterally across the field of view of your stationary camera and simply let go the throttle stick. The drone will lean backward about 30 degree angle, that's the brake action. Reduce brake sensitivity, repeat the procedure, and notice the greatly reduced backward angle of the drone, maybe only 10 degrees.
Why it matters: Movie making in particular ought not to be abrupt. Sudden start and stop is conspicuous and not particularly attractive. In older drones (Phantom 3) abrupt braking could actually unscrew the propellers in mid-flight.
Adjusting the "expo" on pitch and yaw allows for gradually increasing effect on the pitch and yaw controls. This is great if sometimes you want very nuanced rotation or movement but you also want full speed at maximum command. It has little effect on flyers that simply slam the controls to maximum all the time anyway.
*The Reason* that most drones cannot detect an obstacle such as a horizontal wire is the stereoscopic vision system looks for parallax. A horizontal line does not have parallax for horizontally displaced sensors. This is true of your own human eyes; with no other clue, you cannot visually determine distance to a horizontal line.
Some great points 👍
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Thank you and welcome aboard 👍
Spot on mate i defo would not use that
Seems pretty pointless to me Johnny. Thanks 🙏
I appreciate the vid mate, but you have just highlighted a known issue. Powerlines have always been an issue for all drones, and Tbh I will use my common sense and not fly in line with them, as would most other pilots.
I understand the purpose of the video and thanks for that, but any pilot who is flying safely should be evaluating the area anyway lol
Yes indeed most pilots would. That doesn’t include everyone that’s why there are so many that crash. Thanks 🙏
Agree. If someone is fly near power lines they deserve the outcome. Common sense is a must. Before flying,LOOK AROUND!
If you have difficulty seeing powerlines you are using the drone in the wrong place. Always scout the area and know the hazards. As for brake sensitivity it is a sliding scale and using it all the way to the left is extreme. Like the accelerator in your car it is not really intended to be used at the extreme range of travel.
I don’t have difficulty seeing power lines it was a demonstration and also know exactly how the brake sensitive works. 😁 thanks for the comment
Ian from London did these test and there is no real risk.
If there is no real risk then you should check his comments in this video 😁 fly it towards something it can’t see and it will continue to fly if it’s set to low 👍 so there’s no risk 😁
I left it on default and switch the avoidance off when I need to record smoother, power lines are dangerous, high voltage would most problaby barbeque it ...
Best way and yes the power lines are bad 👍
Damn good tip. Thanks for sharing. I used fly around mode in a very thick wooded area across from my house. Mini 3 pro actually saw the tiny branches. It would stop calculate and fly around them. Or in between them. While giving off the warning the entire time. It made me nervous. But it did well. I was really surprised! Here is a link. It’s at the very end of the video
th-cam.com/video/ZbTjS2YF5wo/w-d-xo.html
Glad you found it useful 👍 thanks 🙏
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I wouldn't mess with it... Bad things seem to happen with I mess with buttons... lol
Haha. I know the feeling Kevin 😀
I picture Arnold Schwarzenegger in Twins... " I did nothing! The button was his enemy" 😂
@@BlairAir love it 😁
Sorry but did I miss something? All you proved was that the obstacle avoidance can't see power lines etc full stop, you proved it doesn't matter what level of sensitivity its set to but you suggested that it did.
The purpose of the video was to show if you set it to low and you see power lines at the last minute it will carry on. Not if it was set to high. 👍
@@nobby-green Fair enough, I missed that.
So true, even the Mavic 3 classic won't see fine twigs or power lines.. Obstacle avoidance is something you should NEVER rely on, sure it is helpful and could save your drone in many circumstances, but please never rely on it to save it each and every time... Personally I don't understand the reason for a beake sensitivity setting... Surely you want the drone to brake as soon as possible
Absolutely 👍
I agree. I want the brake to activate asap. If I want to do a slow stop ill do it by skillful flying.
Spot on 👍 thanks 🙏
I'm not sure what your concern is - the manual specifically warns against power lines and small branches...
Yes it does however the concern is if the sensitive is set to low the drone will keep flying for quite some distance. It needs to be used in the places if you are going to use it 👍
Only idiots crash there drones! 🤷♂️🙈
Really 🤷♂️
what is this nonsense? Seriously. Almost no current drone can adequately detect power lines and it has zero to do with brake sensitivity. Obviously if you turn the braking sensitivity down to 10% then it doesn't stop as fast as it does at 150%. What on earth did you expect to happen? Ian from London has the worst Mini 3 Pro videos on youtube. He makes all sorts of claims that are completely false.
You obviously completely missed the point 🤷♂️
High or low settings,,power lines have never been seen by censors FAMILY,,, We all know this... You didn't???
Of course I did hence the video 😁 you obviously didn’t take onboard what I said. And the point of the video 🤷♂️
Nice one Nobby
Thanks Keith 👍