🔵Our Wax dipping tank and all about it!
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Awesome! Thank you for posting this!
Awesome info. Great live last night. Always lots of good information.
Good information and resources for this stuff. And you're right it has to do with beekeeping open up your pocketbook and dig deep LOL. Thanks for sharing.
Awesome video. Tank will be a summer project for my son and I. Thanks for the links.
Variables, variables, variables!!! Beekeeping is in a class of its own! You gotta make a variable T !! Lol! :) GREAT JOB! :D
Great video Kamon. You are a great source for information on beekeeping basics and other aspects as well. I am very interested in doing this. Not sure if it is cost effective now but will be looking into it. Thanks.
Great info, amazing, thanks for sharing, cheers form Northern BC Malvy
My bees need to get busy!! Now I need a wax dipping tank! LOL Good luck in Maysvillle! I'm disappointed I can't make it but will definitely be looking forward to your next engagement. Thanks for everything!
amazing content
Thanks for the video! I wish you showed us how well the hives fit into the vat....
Thanks 👌🐝🐝
Thanks !!
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Great Video Kamon! Frederick Dunn sent me!
Fredrick Dunn shared this link
FIRST...great live cast last night!
"Frederick Dunn sent me to your website " thanks for the video.
nice video
Hi Kamon! I have a question regarding the soaking of the boxes in this wax. If you were to cut a box in half after the soaking, do you have an idea as to how deep it penetrates? Thank you as always and I hope you're having an excellent beginning to your 2021 beekeeping year.
Hey Fred I have tried soaking for 6 hours, 15 minutes, half an hour and all are so shallow after being cut I would need some time of professional equipment to determine the depth. The seal is absolute unless compromised by damage but is very shallow. I happen to be dipping 45 boxes and 28 pallets right now during this sleet we are getting. I hope you are having a great season also.
@@kamonreynolds Thanks for that answer :) I'm re-visiting this video today as you're my shout-out during the Friday Q&A :) Have you found that pre-warming the boxes before dipping would make any measurable difference at all? Thanks :)
I’ve watched several who do the wax dipping. One of them (I think it was sand hill?) says he uses just under 4oz of wax per deep box so 1/4 lb roughly. He does his quite a bit hotter than 250 though so that may affect the numbers. Thanks for posting this by the way
Kamon, I've seen several others using a similar tank that they have welded on additional metal to make the tank deeper. As in twice as deep. Seems that would be easy for anyone with the right equipment and a little skill.
Hey Edward you are totally right and we have been talking about doing that very thing
@@kamonreynolds I've seen some commercial sinks about that deep! Usually come in a 3 pack! Lol! ;0
Roll tide! Thanks Kamon!
Ahh ..I understand now why some Leach out and exactly what you meant earlier ,makes sense
Hi Kamone.
I have a question. I waxed the hives and after the first heavy rain black spots and blemishes appeared. I bought paraffin from a reputable dealer and boiled it for 7-8 minutes at a temperature of 130-160c. When I pour water on the hive, it stands and the wood does not absorb it.
Sorry for bad english.
good video
Kamon, thank you for getting this video out! The standard chicken scalder is built with a 50,000 BTU burner. In your video, you mentioned a 100,000 BTU burner. Was the replacement burner you modified this scalder with a direct replacement. If so, would you mind sharing exactly what model and where you purchased it? It would be awesome if the 100,000 BTU burner used the existing mounting hardware thought, it would be understandable if you had to get creative. Let us know. You and the family have a great week:)
Just weigh a few boxes before dipping and then after. That should give you a weight of wax used. per box
What about the moisture weight that is forced out of the wood? Kinda complicated
But that should be about the same as it is replaced with wax. Would need to calculate the weight of 1 cf of wax vs a cf weight of water. I think they are close to the same. Plus or minus a few ounces.
The plywood tops would take more wax that solid wood hive body’s do to all the void spaces in plywood however.
I would like to have some ideal as to how much wax is use in order to estimate the cost per hive.
It would be interesting to know. It is not much. I just have no time or desire to take the time to figured it out. Sounds like a job for Laurel!!!
I was not thinking it thru. You would not be able to weight the water that boils off so you would not know how much of the finial weight was wax that had replaced water. The only other way would be to weigh the total wax in the tank and after doing several boxes weigh the remaining wax to get a average amount used. This method is call Pain in the ***. LOL
What about using a colorant in the wax like what they use for candles
If you really want to get penetration have 2 tanks, one at about 300 deg to get the box's hot and one at 200 deg, as the box's cool down in the 2nd tank the air spaces will contract and pull the wax in deep.
Thanks for keeping Kamon straight and on track Laurel! Melting Point was the term I needed to hear!
Does the heating element on the tank use propane? If so, is there much danger with the wax hitting the flames and flaring up?
Yes propane is the fuel source. And if it did get down in the burner you are in for a fun day I would think.
Kamon Reynolds - Tennessee's Bees - keep a big fire extinguisher handy please.
@@donbearden1953 we do
I know they are alot of variables but what is about the lowest temp a person can dip and it still be effective
Thanks from Kentucky mountains USA
Can I use a turkey fryer setup for small nucs Or does tank need to be double walled and stainless steel?
Have your tried dipping the telescoping hive covers that Albert Zook sells with the painted white sheetmetal on top? I am concerned the high temperature of the wax will damage the paint on the sheetmetal and cause it to peal off.
I haven't tried those Randy but It might mess up the paint on the metal
@@kamonreynolds I have my wax dipper set up and ready to go. I will try dipping one cover and let you know how it works out.
@@kamonreynolds Kamon, I dipped 12 telescoping covers I got from Albert Zook and they seemed to turn out fine. I DID reduce my wax pot temperature to between 220 - 240 degrees as a precaution. Spray paint on engines is not usually harmed by temperatures in this range so did the same. They are too big to lay flat in the tank so I stood 6 on end and dipped them for 15 minutes on one and they flipped them over to the over side for another 15 minutes. I suspect if you heat the wax up to 290 - 300 degrees, that may damage the paint.
Fred Dunn said say he left this link in his Friday vid 4-1-22
👍. Sea ol around me, so my life is paint and inox schrus
There is a product that the PIG company makes that floats on water and absorbs oil. Might absorb the wax that floats ??
Thanks! It is crystal clear ;). Thanks Laurel for the word.
I just have to figure out how to get the stuff here and if I can make a deal of becoming a seller of the aquipment... just to get it here. Folks just do not do it here....
I am thinking on a light version. I still have so few boxes I might consider it can take some time to do it. So, thinking on having a shallow metal container, only space enough to place one side of one box down at the time. It will be a smaller container to fill up. It is still done. The corners of the box will get extra time in the wax. It should be doable. Anyone following me? (=is anyone understanding what I try to say😅, slightly lost in translation. )
Hello. I enjoy your videos. Can you help me with something that just came up. I'm in south Florida ( Palm Beach County).I'm trying to have bees build comb right in the glass jars. However moisture is building up in most of the jars. They are on top of a eight frame hive with holes drilled in a piece of plywood the jars are face down in the holes and a queen excluder under the plywood . encased in a empty box and lid. Any ideas to get rid of or why there would be moisture in the bottles? Thanks for your time Eric
Hi kamon! I got my tank being delivered next week no more paint ing for me.ill be dead and buryed and the woodenware will still be useable.I wanted to come to maysville its in my back door but im way to busy bee inspections and filling in for my coworker next 12 days .travel safe and enjoy your self.🐝safe and keep your smoker lit.
Konrad
How much wax do I need to order ? it comes in 60 lbs of each. Is that enough for a deep?
Kamon, What if you weigh a box before and after you dip it to be able to tell the amount of wax by weight.
It is a little more complicated than that as you are forcing moisture out and putting wax in.
Hey kamon was wondering if the air temperature if to cool that would effect the wax from soaking in to boxes after pulled out
I have done it below around freezing and so far haven't noticed anything. Just the eyeball test though
@@kamonreynolds thank you 4 the info wax tank should be done tomorrow been in mid 40s in central Wisconsin prolly still a month away be4 my nucs r ready 4 pickup
Weigh one deep box prior to dipping, then after it's done and cool, weight it again.
That will give you the net weight of the wax per box, more or less...
It's not that simple. You also have to calculate for the water that is expelled from the wood, etc.
So how many lbs of wax does it take to fill your tank for first use?
300lb area
How much wax did you initially add to your tank to get it going?
350 lbs or there abouts I would say
But how does it taste?
How much wax to fill the tank initially?
300 lbs or so
Will the tank heat the wax to 250 as it comes? Or did it require some alteration?
Alterations the built in thermostat won't go to 250
@@kamonreynolds shoot. Thank you for responding.
Hi, do you think one can dip cardboard in such a tank?
Very interesting but you have me curious as to what you play when you play bluegrass I’m guessing fiddle or Mandolin ?
Here is a video of him playing the mando. th-cam.com/video/h8-VLiG-UVg/w-d-xo.html
Does it have to be stainless steel?
Do it doesnt have to be
Great information. Thanks for sharing it. The live show was great till the trolls started playing. 🐝🐝🐝👍
I’m curious about dipping then assembling. There are so many types of glues these days, must be one that will work.
Thomas Harris thats a negative, ghost rider. As a woodworker there are no wood glues that binds to wax. Even if it did, the joint would be extremely weak.
Ever wonder how many times you started your video by saying "Hi I'm Kamon Reynolds?" Maybe that intro could be edited. You know just to change things up from time to time.
I enjoy most of your videos! Keep up the good work!
kamon
could i use a heavy aluminum tank to do the dipping in?
Yeah, the issue is temperature regulation on the wax~
"Over here we have some bear equipment" Now it makes sense why you stopped growing chickens if you're raising Bears!!! Now I know who helps do the honey extraction!
Great video!
Watch just one turkey fryer fire video before you fire the thing up inside. It's an outside toy.
Weigh a box before and after waxing, then you'll know how much you need/use per box.
Are you able to adjust for the moisture lost/expelled? And what are the weight differences
@@kamonreynolds I'm sure someone wanting to get real technical about it could, say measure the moisture content and figure out that weight, which in new kiln dried woodenware is going to be very low.
Kamon, I didn't see the link for the tank manufacturer.
It is in the comment pinned at the top
Thanks Kamon!
Kamon you mention you play bluegrass.. any videos on youtube playing?
Sounds like s significant expense. Do that last considerably longer than with painting?
Can I borrow your tank?
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