Hope one day this respectful gentleman meet up with Hamza Yusuf. Two very articulated gentlemen who appreciate the work of Al Ghazali (Rahmato Allah alaih).
I refer to the neoplatonists as ‘the philosophers’ because Ghazali refered to them as such. Well it’s possible that he really took 3 years to study the work of the philosophers and finally to refute their “heretical” views. Al Ghazali already studied logic and kalam which can be described as PHILOSOPHY in his youth, and he was an engineer and a medic so he might have come across the books of philosophers when he studied the material sciences so it was not that he didn’t have any foreknowledge of philosophy.
It's interesting that Dr. Griffel, after mentioning the name of Dr. Richard Frank, recites the du'a 'Rahimahullah' which is a Muslim du'a of course. So, I am being curious to know if Dr. Griffel has converted to Islam.
He holds an ideology close to Asharite theology I would say, so if you consider such philosophers Islamic then you can consider Dr. Griffel that way too. However, these terminologies are just labels. Philosophers usually are not concerned with revelations but they do believe in Creator :)
@@jenniraisovna5698 I have just found myself looking up contemporary muslim philosophers, as I feel the need to reconcile revelations, Creator and reasoning in modern age. And that's what has brought me here. I guess Prof. Griffel deserves some attention... I wonder if you would you have any other recommendation (?) You seem to have done some studies...
@@hozkul What a nice note, thank you for sharing your interest and the intellectual victual that you're seeking. I have taken few classes from Professor Griffel and learned a great deal from him. Since I was orienting my attention toward Classical Muslim Intellectuals I'm not much aware of modern ones, but I could recommend professors in academia who are publishing many secondary sources that you might find interesting and who may be able to lead you to things you're curious about. Jon McGinnes, David C. Reisman, Peter Adamson, Sarah Stroumsa, Joshua Parens, Nadja Germann, Lenn E. Goodman, Mehdi Haeri Yazdi, Wheeler Thackston, Henry Corbin, Tjitze J. de Boer, Shlomo Pines, W. Montgomery Watt. And some of the other faculties whose work can be found via www.academia.edu: Klaus Hachmeier, Travis Zadeh, Stephen Ogden, Ismail Hanoğlu, Cyrus A Zargar, Mehmet Zahit Tiryaki, Joseph Macfarland. As for subjects outside of philosophy and more of theology, I would recommend looking into Hossein Nasr, Sherman Jackson, Khalid Yahya Blankinship, Joseph Lumbard, Hamza Yusuf, and Timothy Winter. Also, after a brief google search I found a list of contemporary Muslim scholars in case you'd like to check them out (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_contemporary_Muslim_scholars_of_Islam), but the aforementioned people so far are the ones whose work I briefly studied. Hope this list is helpful and comprehensive enough for you to find your niche. All the best in your studies. Peace be with you and your family.
@@jenniraisovna5698 Thank you very much for all suggestions and generously extending your hand 🙏 No doubt, I have sought advice from the right person. 😊 You must have studied history, philosophy or religious studies. I also realize that you are passionate about your studies, which is great! As far as I am concerned, I am not such a good reader. I will google the scholars you have named, and will probably read some or try to reach their lectures at youtube. (I know only a few of them.) When I used to live in Montreal, I attended a few conferences of Hamza Yusuf. He is good muslim, but as you said, not a philosopher... It does disturb to realize that most philosophers and intellectuals in our time have no faith in God. 😔I would really like to find and read some who do believe... Perhaps you could narrow your suggestions in this respect. Apart from above, would you mind letting me know who your favorite is among the intellectuals of Classical Period? I did not study Avicenna, Averroes or others... Did they accept Quran as Word of God? Please write brief replies if possible, as I don't want to take up much of your valuable time. Peace be with you and all your beloved ones.
@@hozkul I'm very sorry for bombarding you with all these people, sometimes I forget that it might be too much for others due to my passion as you duly noted. You're lucky to see Hamza Yusuf in life, I admire him a lot and the ocean of knowledge and wisdom he carries while remaining an inspirational exemplar for many Muslims of our modern society and to be frank he knows plenty about philosophy, he is just not that vocal about it because the mass is not ready for such philosophical polemics. You're right, many philosophers today assume that their title by default must never incorporate any faith, rather only reason. As for suggesting philosophers who have faith, I don't think I can be helpful as I never assume the faith of scholars when I read their work, but I might suggest starting with Frank Griffel of course, Mostafa Malekian, Henry Corbin, Hossein Nasr and Muhammad Iqbal. As per your next question, there are several of my favorites of intellectuals for various reasons, and they are al-Kindi, legendary Ibn Sina (though I find him ignorant at times), Suhrawardi, Ibn Tufayl (fan of Hayy Ibn Yaqzan), and Ibn Khaldun, the rest are not as impressive to me. For your last question, all philosophers had different positions on the Qur'an being a word of God or not. General rule of the thumb I would say that those who ascribe under falsafa generally do not believe Qur'an being a word of God, whereas mutakallimun do believe the text to be from God (mutazilites, asharites, maturidi). But to just mention about the two you listed Avicenna and Averroes: as far as I understand Avicenna did not believe it to be as such, but he believed Muhammad being an intuitive kind of philosopher which allows him to preach to masses and have majority followers than trying to explain God's existence from only rational standpoint. Averroes on the other hand claimed that both cannot contradict, and when they do so the scripture must be subordinate to reason and must be understood allegorically. For that I would suggest reading more "rules of interpretation" that al-Ghazali developed, this way I don't have to type more and you can search what you need accordingly :) Again, I studied these superficially myself, and would like to expand my knowledge more in the future, but hopefully this helps you, and my apologies for my lengthy messages. All the best in your endeavors and peace to you all.
Seems like a fairly typical Western academic. Some things he says are useful, others less so. I have detected nothing profound in his take on Ghazali so far, but will still read the book, in case something crucial happens there.
You need to work on the title and keywords and thumbnails of your vids to reach more people, because this deserves more views.
Thank you for these speeches about Imam Al Ghazali and his ideas and works.
Hope one day this respectful gentleman meet up with Hamza Yusuf. Two very articulated gentlemen who appreciate the work of Al Ghazali (Rahmato Allah alaih).
Very glad to come across this! A very good analysis on Ghazali's Munqidh min ad-Dalalah and his reason to write it.
We want more videos about Ghazali... :)
Is he a muslim?!
I refer to the neoplatonists as ‘the philosophers’ because Ghazali refered to them as such.
Well it’s possible that he really took 3 years to study the work of the philosophers and finally to refute their “heretical” views.
Al Ghazali already studied logic and kalam which can be described as PHILOSOPHY in his youth, and he was an engineer and a medic so he might have come across the books of philosophers when he studied the material sciences so it was not that he didn’t have any foreknowledge of philosophy.
Thank you for this great video ! I hope you release more of this kind :)
love your work.
It's interesting that Dr. Griffel, after mentioning the name of Dr. Richard Frank, recites the du'a 'Rahimahullah' which is a Muslim du'a of course. So, I am being curious to know if Dr. Griffel has converted to Islam.
He holds an ideology close to Asharite theology I would say, so if you consider such philosophers Islamic then you can consider Dr. Griffel that way too. However, these terminologies are just labels. Philosophers usually are not concerned with revelations but they do believe in Creator :)
@@jenniraisovna5698 I have just found myself looking up contemporary muslim philosophers, as I feel the need to reconcile revelations, Creator and reasoning in modern age. And that's what has brought me here. I guess Prof. Griffel deserves some attention... I wonder if you would you have any other recommendation (?) You seem to have done some studies...
@@hozkul What a nice note, thank you for sharing your interest and the intellectual victual that you're seeking. I have taken few classes from Professor Griffel and learned a great deal from him. Since I was orienting my attention toward Classical Muslim Intellectuals I'm not much aware of modern ones, but I could recommend professors in academia who are publishing many secondary sources that you might find interesting and who may be able to lead you to things you're curious about. Jon McGinnes, David C. Reisman, Peter Adamson, Sarah Stroumsa, Joshua Parens, Nadja Germann, Lenn E. Goodman, Mehdi Haeri Yazdi, Wheeler Thackston, Henry Corbin, Tjitze J. de Boer, Shlomo Pines, W. Montgomery Watt. And some of the other faculties whose work can be found via www.academia.edu: Klaus Hachmeier, Travis Zadeh, Stephen Ogden, Ismail Hanoğlu, Cyrus A Zargar, Mehmet Zahit Tiryaki, Joseph Macfarland. As for subjects outside of philosophy and more of theology, I would recommend looking into Hossein Nasr, Sherman Jackson, Khalid Yahya Blankinship, Joseph Lumbard, Hamza Yusuf, and Timothy Winter. Also, after a brief google search I found a list of contemporary Muslim scholars in case you'd like to check them out (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_contemporary_Muslim_scholars_of_Islam), but the aforementioned people so far are the ones whose work I briefly studied. Hope this list is helpful and comprehensive enough for you to find your niche. All the best in your studies.
Peace be with you and your family.
@@jenniraisovna5698 Thank you very much for all suggestions and generously extending your hand 🙏 No doubt, I have sought advice from the right person. 😊 You must have studied history, philosophy or religious studies. I also realize that you are passionate about your studies, which is great! As far as I am concerned, I am not such a good reader. I will google the scholars you have named, and will probably read some or try to reach their lectures at youtube. (I know only a few of them.) When I used to live in Montreal, I attended a few conferences of Hamza Yusuf. He is good muslim, but as you said, not a philosopher... It does disturb to realize that most philosophers and intellectuals in our time have no faith in God. 😔I would really like to find and read some who do believe... Perhaps you could narrow your suggestions in this respect. Apart from above, would you mind letting me know who your favorite is among the intellectuals of Classical Period? I did not study Avicenna, Averroes or others... Did they accept Quran as Word of God? Please write brief replies if possible, as I don't want to take up much of your valuable time. Peace be with you and all your beloved ones.
@@hozkul I'm very sorry for bombarding you with all these people, sometimes I forget that it might be too much for others due to my passion as you duly noted. You're lucky to see Hamza Yusuf in life, I admire him a lot and the ocean of knowledge and wisdom he carries while remaining an inspirational exemplar for many Muslims of our modern society and to be frank he knows plenty about philosophy, he is just not that vocal about it because the mass is not ready for such philosophical polemics. You're right, many philosophers today assume that their title by default must never incorporate any faith, rather only reason. As for suggesting philosophers who have faith, I don't think I can be helpful as I never assume the faith of scholars when I read their work, but I might suggest starting with Frank Griffel of course, Mostafa Malekian, Henry Corbin, Hossein Nasr and Muhammad Iqbal.
As per your next question, there are several of my favorites of intellectuals for various reasons, and they are al-Kindi, legendary Ibn Sina (though I find him ignorant at times), Suhrawardi, Ibn Tufayl (fan of Hayy Ibn Yaqzan), and Ibn Khaldun, the rest are not as impressive to me.
For your last question, all philosophers had different positions on the Qur'an being a word of God or not. General rule of the thumb I would say that those who ascribe under falsafa generally do not believe Qur'an being a word of God, whereas mutakallimun do believe the text to be from God (mutazilites, asharites, maturidi). But to just mention about the two you listed Avicenna and Averroes: as far as I understand Avicenna did not believe it to be as such, but he believed Muhammad being an intuitive kind of philosopher which allows him to preach to masses and have majority followers than trying to explain God's existence from only rational standpoint. Averroes on the other hand claimed that both cannot contradict, and when they do so the scripture must be subordinate to reason and must be understood allegorically. For that I would suggest reading more "rules of interpretation" that al-Ghazali developed, this way I don't have to type more and you can search what you need accordingly :)
Again, I studied these superficially myself, and would like to expand my knowledge more in the future, but hopefully this helps you, and my apologies for my lengthy messages. All the best in your endeavors and peace to you all.
Seems like a fairly typical Western academic. Some things he says are useful, others less so. I have detected nothing profound in his take on Ghazali so far, but will still read the book, in case something crucial happens there.