@@SuperM789not a correct analogy. See, people don't run off rental stores holding a physical game copy they grabbed off shelf. They just download pirated digital version of a product, so no goods gets "stolen". (And as we now know, corporations don't even consider videogame a "good", so they can't even claim it's a steal xoxo) So at the end of the day, no "car" gets "stolen"
if anything piracy is more similar to trespassing, like sneaking into a movie/concert/sport theatre as the supplier loses nothing of value and the only thing you really gain is the experience they are selling
Places like Brazil that have major piracy issues because games are priced as expensive as the US and Europe despite the fact that money is a lot tighter in those places. It's been proven that if you make games cheaper for certain places then piracy goes down. Hell, even if you don't live in Brazil, a lot of crap games are extortionately priced these days (looking at suicide squad)
@@donpollo3154yup, brazilian reals ratio from 5:1 to american dollars. so something as cheap as 20 dollars goes as high as 100 brazilian reals. that's mostly why piracy is incredibly enormous.
I once saw a TikTok user say he hated DVDs so much that he wished the government had full control over what we could watch digitally It's scary how brainwashed some people are about this
That guy's an idiot but it has little to do with the government. It's the companies fucking you over by taking away what you paid money for, the government only fucks you with that "well you signed the licensing agreement so therefore we can take the game back from you". We should make it so that you don't have to agree to the licensing agreement to play the game, you should just be able to download and play it
well I mean. The government will probably disagree about whether it's legal or not. XD But fuck the government, it _is_ ethical, IMO. Copyright should have a use-it-or lose it clause, last just 15 years, an exemption for archivists in legitimate libraries, and _require_ that works be properly archived and preserved in a public institution of some kind to qualify for legal protection against copying. Also DRM should be illegal. Until we get all that the system is broken.
that's not true. piracy is always illegal, even if the game isn't available for purchase anymore and even if you already bought the game. whether it's ethical to pirate is a different story but it's always illegal
The only problem now with trying to collect physical games is that there are companies now trying to cash in on the anti-digital trend. Companies like Limited Run Games will price gouge and treat people like crap because for a while, it was widely accepted that they were the “only people who cared” about physical collecting
is LRG actually that bad or do people just hate em for making collectors items? like, not once have i seen LRG sell a game that even came off as hard to get. hell, iirc, its mostly indies that wouldnt really have any other chance to go physical. itd be one thing if a company *only* sold a game via LRG, but unless theres some BTS drama im missing, i dont get the hate
@@2-Way_Intersectionwell the fact that they market themselves as being the best way to preserve a game, only for the games they sell to not work half the time, and if you try to get a refund they’ll ban your address from receiving any more games from them
@@hilotakenaka not work....how? cause, call me naive, but the only options are the games being broken (which going physical wont change by default) or for possible releases on older hardware (assuming they do that, idk). like, im assuming they use the same switch cart factories as everyone else and idk how you fuck up making a *disc* in 2024
Basically with LRG, they claim to be all about preservation, but the companies actions contradict it heavily. Some of the biggest examples being the games they released broken and required patches that needed to be downloaded to be playable, which forces you to use an online connection. There have also been cases where they've released physical games with missing content that you then needed to download. Their business model itself also relies heavily on the same thing Nintendo did with the Mario 3D All-Stars release, where you only have a set amount of time to buy the game before it's gone forever. Except with LRG, the amount of copies they sell is nowhere near as many as Nintendo sold for 3D all-stars, meaning if you don't buy it when the pre-order window is open, you'll have to pay one of the many scalpers who buy their products. One of the most infamous cases even being that members of the company were even involved with scalping, having some copies set aside specifically so they could resell them personally at a higher price once the production run was over.
I remember that. I was extra salty cause I had the demo and played the hell out of it, but didn't think to buy the full game until I saw a speed run on it. Go to look it up and find out it had been removed from the store a while back.
Yeah personally I've also been trying to buy drm free files as much as I can. I don't want too much physical stuff at this point in my life, but I also don't want to be completely without access to music, shows, books, etc. without wifi. As well as not wanting to lose something as soon as they stop wanting to license or host it. Love being able to just plug a usb stick into my car radio to listen to music even in the middle of the woods instead of having to pay for spotify in perpetuity with no guarantee that my favorite songs will even continue to be there. And I can have all those songs on my laptop and phone and 3 separate usb sticks so if one thing breaks I still have them. But when I get the space I'm definitely going to get physical of the things i care most about
Number five really gets across a weird mentality I've seen a lot as of recent. "It's the future, therefore it's better!" It's not like I want CDs or cartridges back for nostalgia, I'd just like to have some damn protection and rights as a customer again...
Reminds me of idiots that think a smart house/lock is a good idea. It’s not hard to not lose keys. And what if the electronics are busted, or you lost your phone, or the batteries died out. How are you gonna get in now? If you can’t be responsible enough to take care of a key, you shouldn’t even be allowed a driver’s license, let alone responsible for yourself.
@@noone12748not even that. Someone thinks he hears you say a bad word, tells amazon that he for sure heard you said the bad word without any proof other than "trust me bro" and you get locked out of your house until you can find evidence nothing was said what so ever and the deliveryman made it all up. Guilty of hearsay until proven innocent. And he deserved it for beign stupid enough to buy a spyware house dependent on the non-existent benevolence soulless corporations.
Same for me, tbf though, everytime I forget how crap their service is.. and that they have no way without 3rd party media to know about a video game on the store from other consumers... to stop and just turn the switch off is my response everytime it lags like this
The switch eshop is the slowest, clunkiest, piece of garbage I’ve ever had the displeasure of browsing. It’s slower than the archaic PS3 store! I dunno who was in charge of that, but they dropped the ball all the way into hell! And here we are, 8 years later, and it still sucks ass! Nobody bothered fixing it!
I'm convinced that the reason why so many games take up so much space these days is to fill up your hard drive so there's not much room for the competition
Part of me believes that too but I think there’s also another reason being that most AAA games have extremely egregious development cycles and levels of crunch time. Leaving it so the devs don’t really have the time to optimize their games and assets for release, and hey, since it’s still functional it doesn’t matter right?? Don’t mind the fact that it takes up 100+ GB and if it was optimized it could take up like 40GB Optimization is for losers obviously, gotta churn out the games as fast as possible to get money as fast as possible!
I think this was already legit proven by the devs of either Battlefield of Call of Duty. That is legit a business strategy to not let your consumer have more options installed, so they'll be disencouraged from playing something else. It's not even a conspiracy, it's pretty much real.
I should start a diner which follows this same business practice. Imagine eating your succulent meal, only for it to be snatched half way because 'uhm, you didn't actually buy the food, you just bought the license to eat the food.'.
isn't that what a buffet is? you are "licensing" to having as much of a specific set of food as possible until your "subscription" expires or the restaurant closes, at which point you lose access to what you just paid for
You joke but some people in Japan this happened to in Anime themed cafes just because they took Photos of their food because the food you payed for was copyrighted.
you mean like Tony Hawk Pro Skater 5, where I had to download and Install literally the entire game? Games unplayable in current day bc of this unless you own that disc, and when they shut that server down, the game is worthless. they shipped the game without 80% of the game in the disc. in the 2000's
I wish consoles had an option to pin games to the Home Screen for that reason. Heck, I jailbroke my Switch not just for mods, but to change the Home Screen. Instead of only seeing 4 tiles at once, which is a huge waste of space, I can see 10. No need for scrolling, everything is right there. I hope Switch 2 does something like the 3DS where you could increase/decrease the icon size to fit more on screen. It seems like every console OS adds good/normal features, and then forgets them at the next console and restarts completely. No one seems to build and add to what was there from the start.
Yeah, a customizeable homescreen would be ideal for the next Switch. How Nintendo managed to mess up the homescreen and still hasn't changed it all these years later is baffling.
Another feature of owning physical media that isn’t mandatory but still fun are the tidbits of bonus features that come with it- film commentaries on a DVD, character bios in the manual of a game disc, the lyrics and special thanks pages in a CD that make the experience of owning and enjoying physical media all the more worthwhile - it’s more personal and feels like you have an actual connection to what your playing and with who made it. Some physical media today omits these things but as someone who buys a lot of my stuff second hand and pre-2010s it’s an especially fun thing.
Regarding the part where you discuss how Mario 3D All-Stars would have been lost if it was digital-only, Nintendo actually DID (kinda) pull that with another major franchise: Fire Emblem. They officially ported the very first Fire Emblem game for the first time ever, made it digital-only, and only sold it for 3 months. They DID make a physical edition...that cost an extra $44 because it included a bunch of collector's items.
It gets worse. The Physical Version doesn't even include a game cartridge. Just a Download Code. They made an NES Dummy Cartridge, Cardboard Sleeve, and a replica box... but not a physical Nintendo Switch Cartridge. This means the only way you can buy the game is through an unused code.
@@EnigmaBarry Why go through all that effort for a nothing burger? It’s like spending all night wrapping Christmas presents with nothing inside them. It’s a waste of time, money, and effort and you’re only gonna disappoint the people you give it to.
I think a major and clear example as to why physical video games should still exist is the PT PS4 demo. That game spread everywhere online and everyone was talking about it, and for good reason. The chilling atmosphere, effective jumpscares, and tricks no horror game had ever pulled off made it one of the scariest games of the 2010s. But because of Kojima and Konami's conflict, and it being digital only, it got taken down and it's gone pretty much forever (At least until PS4 emulation is fully figured out) If you ever wanna experience the demo these days, you HAVE to buy a used PS4 with it installed.
it got taken down because it was a big middle finger to konami. It was a resignation letter and a roundabout way to break NDA. There are ways to get it back on your ps4 if you had it back then, i just re-downloaded it with Squid. The gist of it is, blocking a download of something once it's published to the store required a bizarre workaround which is easily avoided. Permanent availability is so intrinsic to the digital distribution model that they had to invent a way to make it un-downloadable and they didn't even do THAT properly. (You create a proxy server on your PC and connect to psn through that, the software looks for the packet that blocks the package download and intercepts it before the ps4 sees it.) Plus, I don't even understand the point you're making. I can't tell you how many games I played in the 90s that are out of print today and impossible to find without downloading an image file because the disc version simply isn't sold anymore or is on ebay for like thousands of dollars, and a lot of those companies didn't survive the 2000s. This was way MORE of a problem with physical media, actually. P.T. is literally the only example of it happening digitally, and you can STILL get it.
@@HB-fq9nn Well a recent video of Caddicarus showed he had a PS4 with it. So I'm thinking even if that happened, which wouldn't be surprising, it somehow didn't affect ALL the consoles.
Me with social media. I was chronically online as a teen, but once the internet became corporatized, I decided to touch grass instead. You know how bad things have to be??
I started gardening and spending more time outdoors, reserving my gaming time to only the best games at this point. I’ve been playing video games for 35 years and have never been less inspired than in the last few with only a few notable exceptions. I’m actually happier rather than being frustrated with constant nickel and diming or broken games
I'm surprised you didn't mention the most ironic example of a company deleting a digital item from a users device which was when Amazon deleted all copies of 1984 off of everyone's devices.
does it? like, its way easier to make sure music never goes anywhere even if its only digital. music piracy isnt nearly as cracked down on anymore, and literally any device can play music as well as the other (unless youre an audiophile). like, any modern track has little reason to get lost to time unless its *that* bad or was never widely released to begin with.
@@2-Way_Intersection yeah i think in terms of preservation more songs that were never released digitally are lost than those that only released digitally
That Starfield tweet is rather misleading. The copies aren't "going to be 3 cents or destroyed" they're just being destroyed. After all the instructions say to remove all items from the sales floor and backroom. A lot of retail stores will severely mark down something that's flagged for destruction. I used to work at Michaels and had a customer ask for a vase on a high shelf on a back wall. I was perplexed that it was only a penny. My manager confirmed that it was a vase long past being clearanced and was just going to be thrown in the dumpster. Shame I couldn't let that customer have it. This was back in 2008. There are likely instructions like this for a lot different titles. The employee probably just thought it was funny or didn't understand what it meant. Of course a physical copy of Starfield for 3 cents would be an absolute steal as a one-time use frisbee.
The reason they lower the price of something they are going to trash is as follows: If you have a game that didn't sell well, for example, and it's price tag is $60, then when you take it out of the system, the system will say that you just lost $60 of potential profit, making the business look bad on financial reports. Now if you shrink out a game that only cost a penny, then on digital paper, you only lost a penny. At least, that's how I saw it go down during my stint as a shift manager at a game retail store. Had the opposite happen as well. Coworker of mine lost a game that was on sale for $30 so we took it out of inventory to avoid online purchases of a missing game. By the time we had found the game and put it back into inventory, it was $60. My boss proclaimed that we just made $30 for the company. I assume they don't let us sell penny items because they probably make more money by it being destroyed as a tax write-off or something.
Or they’ll be returned to the publisher, because that’s also an option. In one case, a movie/game rental store I worked for was going under. Their liquidation “deals” weren’t that good. Why not try to sell them by having decent deals? At least they’d get some return right? Well whatever didn’t sell, they just shoved into a warehouse. I don’t even know why, the discs had the company label on it (and leaves a residue if you remove it), so it’s not like they were gonna sell to some other retailer. Entirely pointless to have them in a warehouse when you’re not gonna sell them anyway. But they’d rather stick to their guns on prices than make back more money or save on not storing them by getting rid of all of it.
I used to live in the middle of the boonies with no internet, I was completely reliant on physical media to fuel my hyperobsessions. If it wasn’t for physical media, I wouldn’t be playing games in the first place.
"You won't own nothing and you will be happy" was never so true like nowadays, where you buys access to a digital product but the true owner can block you from using it at anytime.
One of my to-dos is to get an external hard drive that contains a copy of every DRM free game I own and chuck that thing in some bomb proof container just as a backup. I don't really like that I feel the compulsion to hoard and hide my game data as if I'm some protestor at video game Tiananmen Square but the other option is just letting that sword of Damocles dangle over my head.
@@CMan-x7k highly skilled cracking. GOG is also a DRM free digital game store, every game you buy on GOG is DRM free and can be locally transferred and backed up to your heart's content. Idk how to crack I'm not techy enough but if your asking how to aquire DRM free games not for sale on GOG, well, you hoist your sails my friend. And don't feel bad about it, the industry has made piracy a necessity, just don't pirate indie games or double a titles and your morally in the clear
@@CMan-x7k Buy from Good Old Games. They offer DRM free but also have a steam-like launcher for the social media aspects. But you can ignore Galaxy (the launcher) entirely and just buy games and install them yourself. Granted the developers WANT that scummy DRM like Denuvo. So if you want that cracked you gotta sail the high seas. But nothing with Denuvo is worth your time.
all we need is a rewrite or restructuring of digital goods ownership laws. Pretty much every law pertaining to " ownership " was written for an era of renting videos and games alongside appliances, the games rentals vanished bc they could - appliances remained. I'm fine with digital games, if my steam library was physical it would occupy two rooms in my house, and also be unusable. All we need are servers that remain to let us grab our goods , servers with time limits and plenty of warnings. While not perfect, it's better than nothing
Amazon Video: $8.99, Netflix: $15.49, Hulu: $17.99, Peacock: $5.99, HBO Max: $9.99, Disney+: $7.99 Versus: A DVD player I found in my attic: $0.00, the DVDs I found at thrift stores: $0.50
Also you need to pay monthly for the streaming services and they can randomly remove stuff, I was halfway through rewatching Hellboy then they removed it. To me it’s just better to keep a collection of shows and movies where YOU get to choose what you get whether it be something you know you like or something you’ve been interested in + you’ll continuously be able to watch them forever after paying the 1 flat price to get them as opposed to: pay big chunks of money monthly for the 5% of stuff you actually like
a DVD player with none of the content available on Netflix barely any of the cotent available on Amazon video barely any content available on Hulu barely any of the content available on peacock barely any the content available on HBO Max barely any of the Content on Disney Plus
@@jackskudlarek3138 Buying DVDs at thrift stores isn’t actually cheaper. The ones you find won’t be Netflix titles, and even if they were, Netflix costs $15.49 per month, giving you access to nearly 7,000 titles in the US. So comparing that to a $5.35 DVD after tax doesn’t hold up, since you’re getting almost 7,000 titles versus just one
>i'm still not touching Gacha >I'm still not paying for DLC >I'm still not paying for online >I'm still not paying for opening lootboxes >I'm still not buying digital AAA slop >I'M REALLY NOT PAYING FOR MULTIPLAYER COMP GAMES LMAO >I'm still not preordering >i'm still not paying kickstarter/Patreon games Been a decade, still simple as
...you're *never* gonna buy dlc? even if its done perfectly like, for example, super smash bros. or borderlands 3 like, my brother in christ, dlc is not bad by default
@@2-Way_Intersection 1) DLC stands for DownLoadable Content, wich means more than the devs back in 2010 wanting to push more content without the need to make a whole new game. But it also include Season pass, special items, event unlocks ect... 2) the only "DLC" i ever "bought" is picking Shovel Knight Treasure Trove and upgrading my TF2 account to premium lol. I could buy a good DLC somewhere but why lol? I don't need it or i could just Yargh my way out of them.
@@taste5728genuine question, do you just wait until rerelease to buy? Say like Skyrim so that you get all the dlc together on the disk and is actually in the game now and not just added dlc?
@@taste5728 1) ok? that doesnt make DLC bad by default (edit: season passes too, like, if the dlc is good, then its really just a discount bundle. again, see smash bros.) 2) being a pirate isnt a flex and i couldnt care less what you personally purchased
Reminds me a lot of my own music collection. I collect cassette tapes, CDs and vinyls. I LOVE the feeling of physically HAVING my music, entirely tangible and there to admire stacked on my shelf, and it’s mine, and ready and able to be listened to whenever I want. There is nothing like it.
Same here, it's the best feeling like it's definitely nice having the music online but it feels even better having it as an object you can directly touch
I Still collect vinyls! It’s honestly really fun to go to the store and see what they have, support small businesses, and hang out with friends and talk about music with others.
The funny thing is, the push for digital is a poisoned well in the long term. Piracy is something that companies can't really compete with on a large scale. They are fierce, but there's a legal grey area with Emulation and digital copies that companies don't want to touch at the risk of hurting themselves. There is a reason game companies do nothing about emulation software. In a digital ONLY ecosystem, pirates go from a non-factor to a legitimate concern as streaming found out the hard way.
I really hope it comes back to bite them in the end. I don't see how they think they can shake us around like this and expect everyone to willingly put up with it long term. If it was digital only WITHOUT the threat of something you paid for literally being ripped away from you, piracy might not be as tempting, but when a game I bought was suddenly erased with no explanation (on Amazon) I went and pirated it and now I'll never have an issue like that again. Piracy is just a better service at this point.
I mean thor (pirate software on yt) made a game that is really hard to pirate by keeping progress tied to the steam achievement system. The game checks your achievements and then unlocks the progress you gained. You'd need to emulate the steam achievements site, redirect the game to it and manipulate it to be able to play your safe. It'll just be fortresses and nukes rather than shields and guns.
@@RuneKillerz109 True. But that limits the game to be Steam exclusive. GOG, EPIC, and any other site would be off the table. And even then, it creates a point of failure for the game. If the Steam Achievement System is reworked or changed for whatever reason, then legitimate customers could be accidentally flagged as pirates. Make no mistake, in a Digital Only ecosystem Anti-Piracy will be much stronger, but so long as it inconveniences legitimate players, people will attempt to circumvent it. Nor will it stop the people who want to play a game before playing, or those that just want free games. So long as people are allowed to download local copies of a game, there will be piracy and Cloud gaming is far from even feasible.
@@NotSpecialDude definitely especially the latter part is what i meant with "there will be fortresses and nukes rather than shields and guns". IT sec in general is a constant battle against an enemy that you can't see so while digital makes it easier to build the fortresses, we pirates are able to build low orbit ion cannons to vaporize them given enough time and both time and silence are on our side.
In the section about games getting delisted, you could’ve also mentioned that licensed music the games use can expire. It caused Alan Wake to be delisted for nearly a year and a half, and just a few weeks ago Spec Ops The Line got delisted, only took over 11 years! No official statement was even made, but it was most definitely for similar reasons, there’s like 13 licensed songs in it. Both these examples use these songs for story reasons that are more than just a radio, and they work really well, they just need to figure out a better system so these games actually last longer than a decade. Another reason for delisting that’s arguably more egregious is when a remaster comes out, and they just delete the original so more people will buy the new thing.
About 18 months ago, there was an incident where digital copies of Chrono Cross were being removed from peoples' accounts by SQEX (I think it was Steam?) on the basis that the license had expired 30 years before the original PS1 game had released :D . Sad thing is that this is the only time either of the Chrono games have gotten an Australian release. Additionally, the only (official) english language version of Shin Megami Tensei I was a mobile phone port that was yeeted out of existence.
If the digital version costs the same as the physical one, it’s a scam. They should charge less. There’s no retailer cut, there’s no expense with printing and pressing…
Don't forget the NES Fire Emblem game which was only digitally had the same deadline as the Mario all-star game And that is the first time an old FE game that wasn't a remake that was once Japan exclusive got to be released and they locked it away
it was shadow dragon and the blade of light, the first game in the series released on the famicom (it did have a remake on ds, which was released in europe and america btw)
I still remember the first time I played my PS4, and the absolute slap in the face it was that the disc just gave permission to download the game to the hard drive.
Ps4 and ps5 copy data from the disc, you even have a clip in this video at 4:28 You dont need an internet connection to do so. Ps4 blu rays hold up to 50GB, while ps5 up to 100GB. The fault is on the developers for not releasing a finished product on launch.
I will forever loathe Nintendo giving up Virtual Console in favor of locking their old games on a subscription, have them drip-fed, and then wiping them off the face of the earth when the service dies, ultimately killing so many games in the process with no guarantee they'll come back.
At least you can play every Nintendo game ever made in a mid range PC, including switch. BOTW is great but even better in 4k 120 FPS, I'll never pay them a dollar again. When Iwata passed, and Miamoto stopped directly being involved, Nintendo became EA, Ubisoft, Activision. They used to be the exception to the greedy norm.
@@roachdoggjr3458 For now you can emulate Nintendo games but when Switch 2 comes out later this year you will need to buy them to play them Switch emulation is only so good because of how easy it was to crack the whole thing and it's an android tablet from 10s specswise
@@roachdoggjr3458That's BS and pirating new games that come complete on physical media is stupid, immoral and harmful. Nintendo is no saint but the only company sticking to those physical games.
@@napoleonfeanor they are a multi billion dollar company. I do not feel bad stealing from them and neither should you. I would steal their entire Treasury if I could and laugh to the bank, they aren't our friends they are a corporate entity and it is morally correct to steal from them
19:35 We don't have to imagine, Nintendo released Four Swords Anniversary Edition, the first Fire Emblem game fully translated, and Super Mario Bros. 35 exclusively on their digital storefronts, then removed them after a few months. In fact, they've actaully done worse. In the mid 90s several Super Famicom games were released through the Satellaview (a peripheral that allowed Nintendo to broadcast games to the Super Famicom), multiple games were released exclusively on the Satellaview, including a remake of the first Zelda game and a visual novel sequel to Chrono Trigger. None of the Satellaview exclusive games have ever been re-released, and whilst fans have manage to dump the roms of many of these games online, a lot of these games have been preserved in an incomplete state as they contained voiceovers, cutscenes, or orchestrated music that couldn't be recovered.
Same. I knew dumping Fire Emblem Fates' third route Revelation digitally on the eShop(and the opposite game if you bought Birthright/Conquest over Conquest/Birthright) at discount isn't gonna age well, whether it's Three Houses giving you all different stories at once without spending a single penny(excluding it's Ashen Wolves DLC), or the Wii U and 3DS' eShops getting shut down.
Europe never got Four Swords Anniversary Edition on 3DS for free or to Buy at all instead they gave us the GBC version of mario one instead. But you had to get emailed a code to fownload it which only worked for a few days instead of you know putting the game for free on E Shop for a few days instead.
@@masterseal0418 You could still technically get Fates Revelations physically, but you had to buy the limted edition release of Fates. Still pretty fucked up that the only way to get Fates Revelations legally nowadays is to buy a second-hand limited edition of a game released on hardware that's no longer supported by Nintendo.
@@wolfetteplays8894 I do kind of respect the Satellaview as it was a unique and innovative idea, but the fact Nintendo has pretty much refused to preserve any of its exclusive games is just scummy in my opinion.
Your dedication to using the DKC cartoon as a core part of your channel's theme is my favorite thing. I can't explain why, it's just fucking hilarious to me, keep it up homie.
The only issue we have is that exe files might not be compatible wirh future version of windows. But maybe a virtual machine running windows using a Linux machine might solve the issue.
a while ago I started going to thrift stores and amassing a sizeable DVD collection. Its so much better because you're you'll find things on DVD that have been completely forgotten, hidden gems that you would NEVER find on streaming services because nobody has heard of them. Another reason you should buy physical media is because streaming services cannot be trusted. They can't garuntee that they'll have anything because the rights are always changing. Around Christmas time my family was trying to watch "a charlie brown Christmas", that classic Christmas special from 60 years ago? It is not on any streaming service except apple TV. We are not going to buy a new TV just to watch Charlie Brown. We walk into Walmart a day later and we find the charlie brown holiday specials on DVD PLUS bonus episodes for 20 dollars. Streaming services are the devil that we were forced to make a deal with in 2020
Something I never see people bring up is how important piracy is for preservation. There are _so many_ Switch games that are now ONLY obtainable through less-than-legal sources; if it weren't for them, they would literally be lost forever. If a game is a digital-only console exclusive, if they delist it there is no legal way to preserve it outside of keeping it on your system (and even then it might stop working). PT is a big victim of this since it can't be ripped yet from the few PS4s that have it and put onto others. This is also a major issue with DLC and patches/updates, since unless a GOTYE or reprint comes out, those won't be on what little physical media still exists. Consider how many games ship these days that are literally fixed _after_ the consumer gets them; if they're delisted, even with a physical copy you won't be able to properly experience it.
Valid. A lot of remakes and remasters often have content changed due to licensing or other issues. For example, The backgrounds of Junk Man's stage from Mega Man 7 were changed in the Legacy Collection to remove the images of the Famicoms being scrapped and I've heard complaints of recent Sonic 3 remakes having different OSTs, presumably due to licensing issues with the Michael Jackson estate. Conker's Bad Fur Day on XBox censors bad language whereas the N64 doesn't. And then there are games that are changed to "improve" them. Some of the censorship that gave the earlier Final Fantasy games its character were uncensored in later translations ("I, Garland, will knock you all down!"), the Tiamat glitch being fixed in Final Fantasy Collection 1-6). Some companies (Atlus) tend to remake their games with story elements that often undermine the story and themes from the original (I still think vanilla Persona 4 is better than Golden, and I have no idea what the definitive version of Persona 3 would be)
"if they're delisted, even with a physical copy you won't be able to properly experience it" Driveclub moment. If you ever wanted those sweet 100% achievement scores, you should've bought it when it was still on the store page. No such luck now.
Glad people are speaking out about the importance of physical media. Unfortunately it really does feel like physical media could die completely, but people should be way more upset about that than they are (which for most seems to be not at all)
I mean, I see this as no different than when TV came out and everyone thought radio was going to die. Now? Trad radio(I’m a media buyer btw) prob gonna outlive cable tv boxes and the ground lines where I live at least, have been cut for over a decade. Things change, deal with it.
Of course they’re not upset. There are only so many things people have the capacity to be actively upset about and willing to change. Sorry, but politics and the environment and education among others have priority right now. I keep seeing people complain that no one cares about their Cause when really, everyone cares about something and is afraid no one else cares. So yeah keep speaking about it, but stop acting like everyone and their mother has time to prioritize your specific issue de jour.
You are entirely capable of taking that digital media and making it physical by downloading it on your hard drive or burning it on a CD. Physical media will exist for as long as you're made of matter. You can always turn the digital waste you find into physical media yourself. Stop complaining and start doing.
In a similar vein, Ross Scott, the Freeman's Mind guy, has a video on games as a service. It's been a hot minute since I've watched it but basically he goes over the issues of games that rely on a temporary online service that the publisher can kill on a whim, with no way to save the game. I think recently he's been trying to gather the resources to start a class action lawsuit against Ubisoft to keep them from obliterating one of their online racing games, The Crew, and hopefully try to get a legal foothold for others to do the same with more games.
Ross is awesome for that. He's a diehard of media preservation and that is frankly quite admirable in a day and age of increasing apathy about what may seem like a frivolous issue to most, but holds dire implications for media in general, and how it is sold/managed. It's not only video games, but even down to books, movies, physical and digital art, etc. If there is no effort to see it preserved, then we run the risk of future generations never being able to enjoy it. And that is no good.
@@viscountrainbows2857 100%. Just the concept of media ownership is at risk unless things change. It's a terrifying thought. I do a lot of work with younger teens. It's scary when I explain that they need to buy an app for $5 and they're surprised to hear that it's a one time purchase instead of a monthly subscription.
Ubisoft did this with a game called "Spartacus legends". It was an online game that was also entirely playable on your own in single player but they shut the servers down and now you can't access the game at all
One reson I think companies want to phase out physical disks that isnt talked about a lot, is that the largest currently produced Blurays are quad layer BD-XLs at 128GB in size, which are only manufactured by Sony (this would be an especially big problem for microsoft as that would mean either every game sale benifits sony, or their disks be limited to tripple layer sub-100GB disks if they go with another manufacturer). With the ballooning filesizes of games, we would either have to go back to multi disk games or money would have to be invested in making the games smaller or the disk capacity larger. Unfortunately just not bothering with disks is by far the cheapest option in this regard
If purchase is not ownership, piracy is not theft. If they’re comfortable telling you what they’re taking from you, feel confident and comfortable taking it back.
I’m with you on this, but what you're saying doesn’t add up. When you first launch a game, you have to agree to their terms of service. It’s all laid out, and by accepting those terms, you’re agreeing to them. So yeah, it’s still piracy.
26:13 This is the reason why multiplayer games has become much less social. Experienced players will prefer to communicate via Discord rather than risk their own accounts on the official chats. Many people miss the 2008 CoD days where they can say whatever they want. Now, a simple swear on the voice chat can be autodetected by AI, and possibly ban your account.
Not just that, but playstation voice is direct-connect . Unless you have a VPN running on your router, a malicious actor can find your physical location. SWATting has been done this way.
This is why I still collect physical game, movies games etc. me and my dad go to garage sales all the time and people give away boxes upon boxes of DVD’s and cd’s, even occasionally blue rays and games. If you wanna make sure something you like will be with you forever, make sure it can’t be destroyed by corpos. Like do I *need* a full original box set of Star Wars galaxies? No but for 1 dollar I’ll take it
@@noone12748 oh believe me I do that too as my fav youtubers stuff can become lost media unless I save it, also a lot of good people have mirrored my fav ytbers stuff on a place that rhymes with blarkarchive . Blorg.
@@noone12748 Bad logic. Piracy relies on people uploading physical media to the internet. Once physical media goes away, people will have to settle for pirating films that have somehow been downloaded off of a streaming service (likely in very low quality too).
@@account-now-closed This media isn't physical anymore, not these days, most of it is digital only, and quality isn't gonna go down, if anything, there are more high quality versions of movies than there are bad
as someone who prefers to buy physical CDs of music, it’s very frustrating and even scary to know that any of my digital music purchases could be taken at any time. my biggest fear is that if any of the music I’ve purchased digitally gets taken off of the service I’ve purchased it from, the only way I can keep it is if I keep a download of it, otherwise it’s no longer “mine”. add to this that certain music purchasing platforms (such as iTunes) have some songs that are REALLY hard to transfer to other devices for some reason (for example I had a Fall Out Boy EP where for some reason one specific song WOULD NOT transfer to a USB no matter how hard I tried.)
Yeah allowing complete control to a single store per system is a bad idea for so many reasons. Digital also tends to be more expensive these days, at least with new games. And you can't resell if you ever needed to get back some of your cash. I don't understand how people can prefer it when it's pretty much all negative for the consumer. Great video, glad somebody made a video about this.
I'm so glad you played clips of Final Space. I was a fan of it when it was removed and the creator posted a video about how pretty much the greatest project he's ever worked on was just axed as a tax write-off was genuinely heartbreaking. Imagine working day and night on a project you didn't imagine would be taken so far, then watching someone who you've probably never even met just delete it from all legal streaming platforms. It's truly demotivating and heartbreaking and I'm so glad he was able to fight tooth and nail into getting some sort of happy ending out of such a demoralizing mess.
Great Video, I was a Walmart Electronics employee for a couple years, at 6:45 games will be often priced for 3 cents when employees are supposed to take them off the shelf and take them to claims. This doesn't happen often, and when it does happen its usually with PC physical games or unpopular console games. However, the games can still be bought at that price so my theory on why that happened is that someone on upper management priced starfield so they could buy starfield for 3 cents rather than $70.
You know, what's funny is if there was a big enough lawsuit over these companies taking away your purchased digital content it would set a precedent as to what you own and don't own. 'This software is licensed, not sold' is not what these companies want you to think it means. "this software" refers to the software intellectual property and not the copy you bought off PSN, eshop, Amazon, etc. So I wouldn't own the intellectual property of the thing I bought, but I own that particular instance of that thing. It's no different than if I bought a t-shirt or toy of Super Mario. Just remember this: Your purchased digital content is a good, not a service.
6:20 Is so funny to me because even before name soundalikes became super popular for comedy recently, I used to joke about the soundalike between "Clearance"(as in the retail section) and "Clarence"(as in the cartoon) all the time to myself
As a literal fetus zoomer growing up with purely physical games on the ps3 and Wii, the angry birds thing was my first exposure to a mass-purge on games, and i'm pretty sure it was the tiny spark that got me into only downloading indie games from there on, and wanting the devs to have an actual face and interaction with the community. For example Postal 2 is hot garbage for some people but Vince Desi and his team still reply to almost every single complaint.
We need laws that smack down the industry. If you own a game in one form, you should be entitled to all digital re-releases of that game for life. If you own a compilation game (the Zelda 4-game collector's disc, Mega Man Legacy Collection) you should be entitled to free downloads of all versions of all games on that disc/cartridge, for life. Furthermore, all digital downloads from all storefronts should be required to be able to be traded or sold to anyone, with no more than a 1% transaction fee going to the compay for processing the transfer (with the exclusion of games obtained for free through the "I own a previous version" above.)
@@teal_m_101 Well, once you start following Putin’s lead and a few executives take some one-way flights through some windows, the rest will fall in line and there will be no more union busting.
all the damage done by eliminating the scarcity of shelf space, and they think i will buy a console without a disc drive. physical sales numbers will always be skewed as long as physical releases largely don't happen and aren't available at all. digital sales will outpace physical every time physical isn't an option. the last pc game i found in a store to buy on DVD was return to wolfenstein, in 2001.
WALMART IS ONLY NO LONGER STOCKING PHYSICAL XBOX GAMES YET HEADLINES MISINTERPRETED IT AS "they’ll stop carrying physical games entirely" WHEN THEY STILL CARRY PHYSICAL PLAYSTATION AND NINTENDO TITLES
Lyin', lootin', stealin' is the reason we are pirates! Ransackin', pillagin', don't knock it 'til you try it! Plunderin' and pilferin' make up a healthy diet, Arr, look at us! We're doin' the Booty Boogie~
Arr, when I was a young lad, my father said to me ""Arr, lend an ear and learn some pirate history! Once a fearsome pirate ruled the seven seas He was your great-great-great-grand-pappy, Quint Skurvy!"" He told me tall tales of his ill-begotten gains But the greatest treasure of them all still haunts me to this day! I'll make you swab the deck and then I'll throw you in the brig! I swear I'll make you walk the plank to right the wrong you did! The day you mess with Skurvy, arr, you'll wish you were never born! When the coconut is mine, then you'll feel this pirate's scorn! He hid it in an idol where it stayed for many years But the eye of Inka Dinka Doo did shed the crystal tear! It laid upon the ground until, much to my surprise A stupid ape just wandered by and snatched my treasured prize! He discovered it possessed extraordinary power And stealing it from Skurvy would be his darkest hour! I'll make you swab the deck and then I'll throw you in the brig! I swear I'll make you walk the plank to right the wrong you did! The day you mess with Skurvy, arr, you'll wish you were never born! When the coconut is mine, then you'll feel this pirate's scorn! When the coconut is mine, then you'll feel this pirate's scorn!
Alot of people forget that everything is hosted on a server and they can and will eventually shut down. Doesn't matter if it's a game or a service. Great vid as always
2 terabytes of space fills up pretty quickly when you remember a fat chunk games can be up to and above 300 gigs. Plus, recall a fat chunk of that space is taken up by the OS and any updates needed to run the console.
This licensing nonsense needs to go. If you pay for a copy, you own that copy. Pulling your access is clawing back the sale and should come with a mandatory refund.
If you don’t like the terms of service, just don’t agree to them. You’re literally reading it and clicking "agree," giving them permission. It’s not like you need Call of Duty to survive-it’s a want, not a need. If you don’t like their terms, don’t use their product. lol
>I can't play the digital game because it's been delisted In the age of digital media people need to get more comfortable with piracy. If the company doesn't want to take your money that's on them; buy it if it ever goes back on sale if you feel bad about it.
Agreed. There are a few games that I have pirated simply because i have no way to play them legally, and I know for a fact that if I ever could play them legally, I would literally throw my money at the publishers.
There really needs to be laws around digital ownership to where they cant just take away stuff you pay for. I love physical media and also collect. I hate the thought of a digital future even if we did own them but the fact we dont that is insane. We should have options
Thank you for compiling this video for people to see. I have bought a few things digitally before, and I’ve always felt dirty when doing it, I knew companies were scummy but I never knew it went that deep. Suffice to say I will never purchase anything digital again if I can help it. Another reason to buy physical copies of movies, games, etc.: it feels nice to hold a cool looking disk/cartridge in your hands. Plus the boxes have pretty pictures on them :)
It’s interesting with the companies taking games from people’s accounts because on one hand you have The Day Before, which was refunded from all Steam accounts that happened to buy it because it was The Day Before But then you have stuff like this, there was this one TMNT game that got accidentally relisted and delisted on Steam within the same day and to the people that bought it on that day, it got refunded from their accounts
Physical MUST STAY! I mean physical media is on the uprise in popularity in all other forms of media, idk why the video game scene can’t see they need this as well.
TH-camrs ruined game collecting during covid. They told kids how cool it was to own old versions of Pokemon and now you can't get anything for less than $100 unless it's a repro cart. Random N64 games fetch high prices too because the wrong dude told little Billy that owning this cartridge for a console he didn't own was poggers. Because of this, thrift stores don't even put games on the shelves now, they look up eBay prices and keep the good ones for themselves.
Great video. I like my digital games on steam like the next guy, but I buy physical games whenever and wherever possible. Having them on a shelf and being able to pop them it whenever you like is one of those little perks that's never gone away no matter how much games and the industry changes. Glad to see other physical warriors out there o7
I wish I could buy all my things physical, but companies make it so difficult. I remember trying to look for The Lion Guard TV show on DVD, only to realize they didn't release it aside from a few episodes. That's not even mentioning trying to find some of my favorite games like Yu-Gi-Oh Zexal World Duel Carnival, which wasn't released in North America and can't be downloaded thanks to eStore closing. I bought a copy of that game as a kid, but Nintendo wouldn't let me download it again after my old 2DS broke so now it's impossible to get.
A lot of shows meant for younger kids get the same “select episodes” on DVD treatment for whatever reason. At least streaming services keep them in circulation (either officially or otherwise) instead of having to hunt down VHS recording from 15 years ago.
Physical isn't what it used to be either. The majority of physical Xbox & Play Station games now require hearty downloads & updates to even be playable past the tutorial sections (if you can even launch it at all from a physical disc & no internet). There are numerous Switch games like this as well sadly. Heck, some games for the PS5 will use the disc to try to do a 80+gb download, instead of copying the 80gb from the disc & downloading a 10gb of so update file (need to insert the disc with the console offline, copy the disc, connect & update) The GameCube and similar earlier generation consoles had final copies of the games on the disc, at worst they fixed bugs on newer pressings of the media. They were not designed with internet connectivity in mind, so they were self contained and comolete. Those days are over. That's not even mentioning disc rot or problems with cartridges or flash media. It's a no win situation in a lot of ways.
If there is no object, you will never own what you buy. An unscrupulous corporation can remove your access at will, and they can edit and omit as they choose to alter history to line up with contemporary tastes.
its fucked up how big companies want to shut down physical media yet the consoles they provide literally dont have the capacity to store more than a couple of games and there is absolutely no alternative
So glad hard drive prices have dropped so much lately. I have copies of my entire Spotify library, every show I’ve watched and enjoyed on any streaming service, online courses, movies, TH-cam videos, games, and anything else I think I may want in the future that could get deleted. Thank you Seagate 🙏
If you ever feel like you own anything digital just know that Ubisoft removed Assasins Creed Liberation from everyone’s Steam library so they could sell it back to them as part of the assasins creed collection. Same with all the classic Sonic games
R* did the same thing with gta a few years back as well. I'm just waiting to see if Take2 is willing to send a few more hired goons out to player's doorsteps whenever they are caught torrenting a copy of gta6
2:20 YES! SOMEONE FINALLY SAID IT! That been my biggest gripe with this sht. Even more than the drm and other garbage. I just ain't got the hard drive space for these big ahh 89 Billion GB headahh games! Miss me wit that!
I bought a 500GB PS4 because I don't do digital at all, and having the lowest HDD PS3 space was never an issue. But since almost every PS4 game takes up 10% of my HDD space I was constantly having to waste time deleting game data with every new game. I eventually caved and bought a 1TB system.
let us never forget how the original skullgirls was completely pulled and any old version specific releases were just straight up disabled to being played at all, and the fan base was forced to move over to the completely censored and “pc” version.
@@henrynelson9301 the triggering and sexual imagery was the entire point of the game. regardless, i don’t care about the contents. i care about permanent censorship without the actual consent of the original creator, and the entire fallout and subsequent community shift afterward.
Watching this for the first time, and worth noting that on the day I'm watching this, California just passed a law saying that companies cannot claim consumers bought or owner digital purchases. While it's a very small step, it's at least a step toward physical still having a place.
as a brazilian with now two laptops that are almost 10 years old, a ps2 and a now 3 years old phone, that never had any *original* physical game, this video was pretty cool to watch, and as someone who couldn't purchase almost half the games I like digitally (some not even physically) even if I had enough money for that, because they're not available at any store anymore
Always remember kids: If buying isn't owning, then pirating isn't stealing.
Pirating is never (was never, and will never be) stealing.
if you steal a car from a dealership that's just renting them, that's still stealing... this argument doesn't work
@@SuperM789not a correct analogy.
See, people don't run off rental stores holding a physical game copy they grabbed off shelf. They just download pirated digital version of a product, so no goods gets "stolen".
(And as we now know, corporations don't even consider videogame a "good", so they can't even claim it's a steal xoxo)
So at the end of the day, no "car" gets "stolen"
if anything piracy is more similar to trespassing, like sneaking into a movie/concert/sport theatre as the supplier loses nothing of value and the only thing you really gain is the experience they are selling
do you guys know any websites to download/Pirate some goods/games?
Always remember what Gabe Newell said “Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem”
Exactly. Why would I give Nintendo my money for their older games that they don't really care about, when I can just get an emulator?
Places like Brazil that have major piracy issues because games are priced as expensive as the US and Europe despite the fact that money is a lot tighter in those places. It's been proven that if you make games cheaper for certain places then piracy goes down.
Hell, even if you don't live in Brazil, a lot of crap games are extortionately priced these days (looking at suicide squad)
he says that and turns around and sell you a license to play a game and not own it lol
if i hear this fucking quote one more time i am going to kick something so hard my foot turns into a red paste
@@donpollo3154yup, brazilian reals ratio from 5:1 to american dollars. so something as cheap as 20 dollars goes as high as 100 brazilian reals. that's mostly why piracy is incredibly enormous.
The stfu incident legit makes me sick to my stomach imagine losing your entire digital library cause of something so miniscule and insignificant
wacky...
They're woke trash, that's why i havent bought any games for years except spend a 2$ on GOG last year.
I hope that guy did the right thing and pirate all his games back.
@@Ckoz2829 The moral thing to do
@@AnthonybrotherYou don't even know what woke is.
I once saw a TikTok user say he hated DVDs so much that he wished the government had full control over what we could watch digitally
It's scary how brainwashed some people are about this
That guy's an idiot but it has little to do with the government. It's the companies fucking you over by taking away what you paid money for, the government only fucks you with that "well you signed the licensing agreement so therefore we can take the game back from you". We should make it so that you don't have to agree to the licensing agreement to play the game, you should just be able to download and play it
The Government shoud not have full power over our entertainment but yeah I agree.
Were they dropped on there head a couple hundred times as a toddler
Was he being serious?
I wonder if VHS tapes or cassettes would give that user an aneurysm.
Also when something is "removed" it becomes fair game for piracy. If you already paid for it, it's not even illegal.
It's called "abandonware"
3hs moment! (if you have a hacked 3ds go to 3hs and download literally anything 3ds-related you could possibly want)
well I mean. The government will probably disagree about whether it's legal or not. XD But fuck the government, it _is_ ethical, IMO.
Copyright should have a use-it-or lose it clause, last just 15 years, an exemption for archivists in legitimate libraries, and _require_ that works be properly archived and preserved in a public institution of some kind to qualify for legal protection against copying. Also DRM should be illegal.
Until we get all that the system is broken.
Why bother giving the time of day to people who would gladly sell you down the river to save their own asses?
that's not true. piracy is always illegal, even if the game isn't available for purchase anymore and even if you already bought the game.
whether it's ethical to pirate is a different story but it's always illegal
The only problem now with trying to collect physical games is that there are companies now trying to cash in on the anti-digital trend.
Companies like Limited Run Games will price gouge and treat people like crap because for a while, it was widely accepted that they were the “only people who cared” about physical collecting
is LRG actually that bad or do people just hate em for making collectors items?
like, not once have i seen LRG sell a game that even came off as hard to get. hell, iirc, its mostly indies that wouldnt really have any other chance to go physical.
itd be one thing if a company *only* sold a game via LRG, but unless theres some BTS drama im missing, i dont get the hate
@@2-Way_Intersectionwell the fact that they market themselves as being the best way to preserve a game, only for the games they sell to not work half the time, and if you try to get a refund they’ll ban your address from receiving any more games from them
@@hilotakenaka not work....how? cause, call me naive, but the only options are the games being broken (which going physical wont change by default) or for possible releases on older hardware (assuming they do that, idk).
like, im assuming they use the same switch cart factories as everyone else and idk how you fuck up making a *disc* in 2024
LRG is garbage
Basically with LRG, they claim to be all about preservation, but the companies actions contradict it heavily.
Some of the biggest examples being the games they released broken and required patches that needed to be downloaded to be playable, which forces you to use an online connection.
There have also been cases where they've released physical games with missing content that you then needed to download.
Their business model itself also relies heavily on the same thing Nintendo did with the Mario 3D All-Stars release, where you only have a set amount of time to buy the game before it's gone forever. Except with LRG, the amount of copies they sell is nowhere near as many as Nintendo sold for 3D all-stars, meaning if you don't buy it when the pre-order window is open, you'll have to pay one of the many scalpers who buy their products. One of the most infamous cases even being that members of the company were even involved with scalping, having some copies set aside specifically so they could resell them personally at a higher price once the production run was over.
After the Scott Pilgrim video game got delisted 10 years ago, I already knew something was wrong.
It’s a shame how much media has been lost due to digital store exclusivity. Scary to think how some games/shows/movies will only exist as memory.
@@scatman786it’s especially scary with something like Netflix that will never release the rest of Bojack on dvd
It’s pretty awesome though how Sony and Microsoft allowed you to redownload it if you’d bought it (or claimed it on PS Plus back in 2012/2013)
I remember that. I was extra salty cause I had the demo and played the hell out of it, but didn't think to buy the full game until I saw a speed run on it. Go to look it up and find out it had been removed from the store a while back.
@@scatman786Piracy my man, unless we’re talking about MMOs.
With how streaming services have been i've slowly started to buy blu-rays and dvds
Your grammar ain't grammaring, but your logic is logicing! ❤
Yeah personally I've also been trying to buy drm free files as much as I can. I don't want too much physical stuff at this point in my life, but I also don't want to be completely without access to music, shows, books, etc. without wifi. As well as not wanting to lose something as soon as they stop wanting to license or host it. Love being able to just plug a usb stick into my car radio to listen to music even in the middle of the woods instead of having to pay for spotify in perpetuity with no guarantee that my favorite songs will even continue to be there. And I can have all those songs on my laptop and phone and 3 separate usb sticks so if one thing breaks I still have them. But when I get the space I'm definitely going to get physical of the things i care most about
Especially since Disney stopped making psychical copies of their media in Australia
And if people still don't want physical copies, they can always sail the seven seas.
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Number five really gets across a weird mentality I've seen a lot as of recent. "It's the future, therefore it's better!" It's not like I want CDs or cartridges back for nostalgia, I'd just like to have some damn protection and rights as a customer again...
A lot of people are obsessed with new versions of things even if it's objectively worse. Just join any fandom in current year
Reminds me of idiots that think a smart house/lock is a good idea. It’s not hard to not lose keys. And what if the electronics are busted, or you lost your phone, or the batteries died out. How are you gonna get in now? If you can’t be responsible enough to take care of a key, you shouldn’t even be allowed a driver’s license, let alone responsible for yourself.
@@mrshmuga9 Or you say a bad word and Amazon locks you out of your own house
@@noone12748in that incident a bad word wasn't even said and the guy was still locked out of his account
@@noone12748not even that. Someone thinks he hears you say a bad word, tells amazon that he for sure heard you said the bad word without any proof other than "trust me bro" and you get locked out of your house until you can find evidence nothing was said what so ever and the deliveryman made it all up. Guilty of hearsay until proven innocent. And he deserved it for beign stupid enough to buy a spyware house dependent on the non-existent benevolence soulless corporations.
It's not just your Internet, the eshop chugs like crazy
Same, I hate it.
Same for me, tbf though, everytime I forget how crap their service is.. and that they have no way without 3rd party media to know about a video game on the store from other consumers... to stop and just turn the switch off is my response everytime it lags like this
the real nintendo died around the end of last decade
The switch eshop is the slowest, clunkiest, piece of garbage I’ve ever had the displeasure of browsing. It’s slower than the archaic PS3 store! I dunno who was in charge of that, but they dropped the ball all the way into hell! And here we are, 8 years later, and it still sucks ass! Nobody bothered fixing it!
I'm sure its due to Switch is just very underpowered (even on release)
I'm convinced that the reason why so many games take up so much space these days is to fill up your hard drive so there's not much room for the competition
Part of me believes that too but I think there’s also another reason being that most AAA games have extremely egregious development cycles and levels of crunch time.
Leaving it so the devs don’t really have the time to optimize their games and assets for release, and hey, since it’s still functional it doesn’t matter right?? Don’t mind the fact that it takes up 100+ GB and if it was optimized it could take up like 40GB
Optimization is for losers obviously, gotta churn out the games as fast as possible to get money as fast as possible!
Blame Titanfall for starting the trend of uncompressed audio.
The only way the compete with each other is that they are all bad games
I think this was already legit proven by the devs of either Battlefield of Call of Duty. That is legit a business strategy to not let your consumer have more options installed, so they'll be disencouraged from playing something else. It's not even a conspiracy, it's pretty much real.
They definetly refuse to compress the games on purpose
I should start a diner which follows this same business practice. Imagine eating your succulent meal, only for it to be snatched half way because 'uhm, you didn't actually buy the food, you just bought the license to eat the food.'.
"That bacon didn't cater enough to modern sensibilities. Here are some bugs instead."
isn't that what a buffet is? you are "licensing" to having as much of a specific set of food as possible until your "subscription" expires or the restaurant closes, at which point you lose access to what you just paid for
You joke but some people in Japan this happened to in Anime themed cafes just because they took Photos of their food because the food you payed for was copyrighted.
@@Acidonia150reborn Saw that story, messed up that they can just do that lmao.
@@Minty1337 Don't think so. I'd consider it more like a gamepass- you don't own all these games but you can play them all with a subscription.
This just makes me depressed. I wanna go back to the early 2000s where physical media was king, where you actually OWNED your games.
Agreed.
I don't give a damn about the 2000s but I love physical I don't get stuff digital that much.
I own my .iso I downloaded more than you own a physical copy
Yes!
you mean like Tony Hawk Pro Skater 5, where I had to download and Install literally the entire game?
Games unplayable in current day bc of this unless you own that disc, and when they shut that server down, the game is worthless.
they shipped the game without 80% of the game in the disc.
in the 2000's
I'mma be real. I often forget I own certain digital games because I can't see them on a shelf in my living room.
I wish consoles had an option to pin games to the Home Screen for that reason. Heck, I jailbroke my Switch not just for mods, but to change the Home Screen. Instead of only seeing 4 tiles at once, which is a huge waste of space, I can see 10. No need for scrolling, everything is right there. I hope Switch 2 does something like the 3DS where you could increase/decrease the icon size to fit more on screen. It seems like every console OS adds good/normal features, and then forgets them at the next console and restarts completely. No one seems to build and add to what was there from the start.
Yeah, a customizeable homescreen would be ideal for the next Switch. How Nintendo managed to mess up the homescreen and still hasn't changed it all these years later is baffling.
@@TheMapleSyrupShowcustomization anything on the switch would be so lovely
Another feature of owning physical media that isn’t mandatory but still fun are the tidbits of bonus features that come with it- film commentaries on a DVD, character bios in the manual of a game disc, the lyrics and special thanks pages in a CD that make the experience of owning and enjoying physical media all the more worthwhile - it’s more personal and feels like you have an actual connection to what your playing and with who made it. Some physical media today omits these things but as someone who buys a lot of my stuff second hand and pre-2010s it’s an especially fun thing.
Man, I miss those game manuals
The phrase "move heaven and earth to change Nintendo's mind on this" is great, seeing as their name commonly translates to "leave luck to heaven.
Right??? They never listen to sh¡t, language barrier or not
Regarding the part where you discuss how Mario 3D All-Stars would have been lost if it was digital-only, Nintendo actually DID (kinda) pull that with another major franchise: Fire Emblem. They officially ported the very first Fire Emblem game for the first time ever, made it digital-only, and only sold it for 3 months. They DID make a physical edition...that cost an extra $44 because it included a bunch of collector's items.
It gets worse. The Physical Version doesn't even include a game cartridge. Just a Download Code. They made an NES Dummy Cartridge, Cardboard Sleeve, and a replica box... but not a physical Nintendo Switch Cartridge. This means the only way you can buy the game is through an unused code.
@@EnigmaBarry I'm no Fire emblem fan but this is TORTURE
@@EnigmaBarry
Why go through all that effort for a nothing burger? It’s like spending all night wrapping Christmas presents with nothing inside them. It’s a waste of time, money, and effort and you’re only gonna disappoint the people you give it to.
I think a major and clear example as to why physical video games should still exist is the PT PS4 demo. That game spread everywhere online and everyone was talking about it, and for good reason. The chilling atmosphere, effective jumpscares, and tricks no horror game had ever pulled off made it one of the scariest games of the 2010s. But because of Kojima and Konami's conflict, and it being digital only, it got taken down and it's gone pretty much forever (At least until PS4 emulation is fully figured out)
If you ever wanna experience the demo these days, you HAVE to buy a used PS4 with it installed.
it got taken down because it was a big middle finger to konami. It was a resignation letter and a roundabout way to break NDA. There are ways to get it back on your ps4 if you had it back then, i just re-downloaded it with Squid.
The gist of it is, blocking a download of something once it's published to the store required a bizarre workaround which is easily avoided. Permanent availability is so intrinsic to the digital distribution model that they had to invent a way to make it un-downloadable and they didn't even do THAT properly.
(You create a proxy server on your PC and connect to psn through that, the software looks for the packet that blocks the package download and intercepts it before the ps4 sees it.)
Plus, I don't even understand the point you're making. I can't tell you how many games I played in the 90s that are out of print today and impossible to find without downloading an image file because the disc version simply isn't sold anymore or is on ebay for like thousands of dollars, and a lot of those companies didn't survive the 2000s.
This was way MORE of a problem with physical media, actually. P.T. is literally the only example of it happening digitally, and you can STILL get it.
Didn’t Konami send out bots to forcibly delete the game from all consoles?
@@HB-fq9nn Well a recent video of Caddicarus showed he had a PS4 with it. So I'm thinking even if that happened, which wouldn't be surprising, it somehow didn't affect ALL the consoles.
There's an unofficial PC port of PT
@@HB-fq9nn its definitely still playable on my ps4
Media is getting so bad and the streaming services are so annoying that I might legit take up wood working and hunting instead.
Honestly these are great activities for the well being of any man
ive been going camping and kayaking, and loving it. i hate being outside
Me with social media. I was chronically online as a teen, but once the internet became corporatized, I decided to touch grass instead.
You know how bad things have to be??
I started gardening and spending more time outdoors, reserving my gaming time to only the best games at this point. I’ve been playing video games for 35 years and have never been less inspired than in the last few with only a few notable exceptions. I’m actually happier rather than being frustrated with constant nickel and diming or broken games
I'm surprised you didn't mention the most ironic example of a company deleting a digital item from a users device which was when Amazon deleted all copies of 1984 off of everyone's devices.
Which is a very 1984 thing to do...
This applies also in music! That’s why the vinyl craze and somewhat CD’s are making a comeback
does it?
like, its way easier to make sure music never goes anywhere even if its only digital. music piracy isnt nearly as cracked down on anymore, and literally any device can play music as well as the other (unless youre an audiophile).
like, any modern track has little reason to get lost to time unless its *that* bad or was never widely released to begin with.
but you could just download the songs
@@2-Way_Intersection yeah i think in terms of preservation more songs that were never released digitally are lost than those that only released digitally
@@2-Way_Intersection It's also trivial to turn a TH-cam video into an MP3, I'd argue music piracy has never been easier.
@@luka9967 this, and those who *knows* if theyll be found at that point
Remember. Paying for something that you cannot use as a blunt force instrument is a waste of money.
so kleenex is a waste?
@@2-Way_Intersection Just wrap your fist with it. There it goes.
so my rubik's cube collection isnt a waste?
Modern game cases will shatter if you breathe on them though
i solemnly swear to never buy another pair of pants ever again
That Starfield tweet is rather misleading. The copies aren't "going to be 3 cents or destroyed" they're just being destroyed. After all the instructions say to remove all items from the sales floor and backroom.
A lot of retail stores will severely mark down something that's flagged for destruction. I used to work at Michaels and had a customer ask for a vase on a high shelf on a back wall. I was perplexed that it was only a penny. My manager confirmed that it was a vase long past being clearanced and was just going to be thrown in the dumpster. Shame I couldn't let that customer have it. This was back in 2008.
There are likely instructions like this for a lot different titles. The employee probably just thought it was funny or didn't understand what it meant.
Of course a physical copy of Starfield for 3 cents would be an absolute steal as a one-time use frisbee.
Hey, don't be like that. Starfield let's you be a space cowboy.
@@twinzzlersLOL this nga enjoyed Starfield😂🤣😭
@@rkraccoons Actually I got bored right after I became a space cowboy.
The reason they lower the price of something they are going to trash is as follows:
If you have a game that didn't sell well, for example, and it's price tag is $60, then when you take it out of the system, the system will say that you just lost $60 of potential profit, making the business look bad on financial reports.
Now if you shrink out a game that only cost a penny, then on digital paper, you only lost a penny.
At least, that's how I saw it go down during my stint as a shift manager at a game retail store.
Had the opposite happen as well. Coworker of mine lost a game that was on sale for $30 so we took it out of inventory to avoid online purchases of a missing game.
By the time we had found the game and put it back into inventory, it was $60. My boss proclaimed that we just made $30 for the company.
I assume they don't let us sell penny items because they probably make more money by it being destroyed as a tax write-off or something.
Or they’ll be returned to the publisher, because that’s also an option. In one case, a movie/game rental store I worked for was going under. Their liquidation “deals” weren’t that good. Why not try to sell them by having decent deals? At least they’d get some return right? Well whatever didn’t sell, they just shoved into a warehouse. I don’t even know why, the discs had the company label on it (and leaves a residue if you remove it), so it’s not like they were gonna sell to some other retailer. Entirely pointless to have them in a warehouse when you’re not gonna sell them anyway. But they’d rather stick to their guns on prices than make back more money or save on not storing them by getting rid of all of it.
I used to live in the middle of the boonies with no internet, I was completely reliant on physical media to fuel my hyperobsessions. If it wasn’t for physical media, I wouldn’t be playing games in the first place.
YESSS never forget your roots
"You'll own nothing, and be happy."
- WEF
"You won't own nothing and you will be happy" was never so true like nowadays, where you buys access to a digital product but the true owner can block you from using it at anytime.
Don’t.
Most people who used that phrase were far right nutjobs
Statists and the "Oligarchs that shouldn't be" DESPERATELY want the Death of >All Property Rights
You a conspiracy theorist or something?
@@れきし Naw that's just capitalism
One of my to-dos is to get an external hard drive that contains a copy of every DRM free game I own and chuck that thing in some bomb proof container just as a backup. I don't really like that I feel the compulsion to hoard and hide my game data as if I'm some protestor at video game Tiananmen Square but the other option is just letting that sword of Damocles dangle over my head.
How do you remove the DRM on games?
@@CMan-x7k highly skilled cracking. GOG is also a DRM free digital game store, every game you buy on GOG is DRM free and can be locally transferred and backed up to your heart's content. Idk how to crack I'm not techy enough but if your asking how to aquire DRM free games not for sale on GOG, well, you hoist your sails my friend. And don't feel bad about it, the industry has made piracy a necessity, just don't pirate indie games or double a titles and your morally in the clear
@@CMan-x7k Buy from Good Old Games. They offer DRM free but also have a steam-like launcher for the social media aspects. But you can ignore Galaxy (the launcher) entirely and just buy games and install them yourself.
Granted the developers WANT that scummy DRM like Denuvo. So if you want that cracked you gotta sail the high seas. But nothing with Denuvo is worth your time.
Jesus man that's too dramatic for literally vidyagames lmao
@@CMan-x7k Back in the day you'd just use GameCopyWorld or whatever it was called. Not sure if it's still active.
The wake-up call for me was when these digital storefronts were supposed to close and they never even did a proper closing sale on their stuff.
all we need is a rewrite or restructuring of digital goods ownership laws.
Pretty much every law pertaining to " ownership " was written for an era of renting videos and games alongside appliances, the games rentals vanished bc they could - appliances remained.
I'm fine with digital games, if my steam library was physical it would occupy two rooms in my house, and also be unusable.
All we need are servers that remain to let us grab our goods , servers with time limits and plenty of warnings.
While not perfect, it's better than nothing
id be more ok with it on the stipulation they cant reach in my device and delete my purchased data
Amazon Video: $8.99, Netflix: $15.49, Hulu: $17.99, Peacock: $5.99, HBO Max: $9.99, Disney+: $7.99
Versus:
A DVD player I found in my attic: $0.00, the DVDs I found at thrift stores: $0.50
Also you need to pay monthly for the streaming services and they can randomly remove stuff, I was halfway through rewatching Hellboy then they removed it.
To me it’s just better to keep a collection of shows and movies where YOU get to choose what you get whether it be something you know you like or something you’ve been interested in + you’ll continuously be able to watch them forever after paying the 1 flat price to get them as opposed to: pay big chunks of money monthly for the 5% of stuff you actually like
The DVD original price st the store with a seal? 5.35 after tax. Still cheaper.
a DVD player with none of the content available on Netflix barely any of the cotent available on Amazon video barely any content available on Hulu barely any of the content available on peacock barely any the content available on HBO Max barely any of the Content on Disney Plus
@@jackskudlarek3138
Buying DVDs at thrift stores isn’t actually cheaper. The ones you find won’t be Netflix titles, and even if they were, Netflix costs $15.49 per month, giving you access to nearly 7,000 titles in the US. So comparing that to a $5.35 DVD after tax doesn’t hold up, since you’re getting almost 7,000 titles versus just one
@@WholeSomeHomie I don't think you know what DVDs contain. They contain *good* content.
>i'm still not touching Gacha
>I'm still not paying for DLC
>I'm still not paying for online
>I'm still not paying for opening lootboxes
>I'm still not buying digital AAA slop
>I'M REALLY NOT PAYING FOR MULTIPLAYER COMP GAMES LMAO
>I'm still not preordering
>i'm still not paying kickstarter/Patreon games
Been a decade, still simple as
...you're *never* gonna buy dlc? even if its done perfectly like, for example, super smash bros. or borderlands 3
like, my brother in christ, dlc is not bad by default
@@2-Way_Intersection
1) DLC stands for DownLoadable Content, wich means more than the devs back in 2010 wanting to push more content without the need to make a whole new game. But it also include Season pass, special items, event unlocks ect...
2) the only "DLC" i ever "bought" is picking Shovel Knight Treasure Trove and upgrading my TF2 account to premium lol. I could buy a good DLC somewhere but why lol? I don't need it or i could just Yargh my way out of them.
@@taste5728genuine question, do you just wait until rerelease to buy? Say like Skyrim so that you get all the dlc together on the disk and is actually in the game now and not just added dlc?
@@taste5728
1) ok? that doesnt make DLC bad by default (edit: season passes too, like, if the dlc is good, then its really just a discount bundle. again, see smash bros.)
2) being a pirate isnt a flex and i couldnt care less what you personally purchased
Speaks nintendo online levels of shit
Reminds me a lot of my own music collection. I collect cassette tapes, CDs and vinyls. I LOVE the feeling of physically HAVING my music, entirely tangible and there to admire stacked on my shelf, and it’s mine, and ready and able to be listened to whenever I want. There is nothing like it.
Same here!
Same here, it's the best feeling like it's definitely nice having the music online but it feels even better having it as an object you can directly touch
Just be careful with cassettes they are know to degrade, definitely back up what you want to keep!
same.. cds are goated and the cover art of some albums can be a really nice decoration
I Still collect vinyls! It’s honestly really fun to go to the store and see what they have, support small businesses, and hang out with friends and talk about music with others.
The funny thing is, the push for digital is a poisoned well in the long term. Piracy is something that companies can't really compete with on a large scale. They are fierce, but there's a legal grey area with Emulation and digital copies that companies don't want to touch at the risk of hurting themselves. There is a reason game companies do nothing about emulation software.
In a digital ONLY ecosystem, pirates go from a non-factor to a legitimate concern as streaming found out the hard way.
I really hope it comes back to bite them in the end. I don't see how they think they can shake us around like this and expect everyone to willingly put up with it long term. If it was digital only WITHOUT the threat of something you paid for literally being ripped away from you, piracy might not be as tempting, but when a game I bought was suddenly erased with no explanation (on Amazon) I went and pirated it and now I'll never have an issue like that again.
Piracy is just a better service at this point.
I think piracy is going to come back with a vengeance once all these platforms are digital only.
I mean thor (pirate software on yt) made a game that is really hard to pirate by keeping progress tied to the steam achievement system. The game checks your achievements and then unlocks the progress you gained. You'd need to emulate the steam achievements site, redirect the game to it and manipulate it to be able to play your safe.
It'll just be fortresses and nukes rather than shields and guns.
@@RuneKillerz109 True. But that limits the game to be Steam exclusive. GOG, EPIC, and any other site would be off the table. And even then, it creates a point of failure for the game. If the Steam Achievement System is reworked or changed for whatever reason, then legitimate customers could be accidentally flagged as pirates.
Make no mistake, in a Digital Only ecosystem Anti-Piracy will be much stronger, but so long as it inconveniences legitimate players, people will attempt to circumvent it. Nor will it stop the people who want to play a game before playing, or those that just want free games. So long as people are allowed to download local copies of a game, there will be piracy and Cloud gaming is far from even feasible.
@@NotSpecialDude definitely especially the latter part is what i meant with "there will be fortresses and nukes rather than shields and guns". IT sec in general is a constant battle against an enemy that you can't see so while digital makes it easier to build the fortresses, we pirates are able to build low orbit ion cannons to vaporize them given enough time and both time and silence are on our side.
In the section about games getting delisted, you could’ve also mentioned that licensed music the games use can expire. It caused Alan Wake to be delisted for nearly a year and a half, and just a few weeks ago Spec Ops The Line got delisted, only took over 11 years! No official statement was even made, but it was most definitely for similar reasons, there’s like 13 licensed songs in it. Both these examples use these songs for story reasons that are more than just a radio, and they work really well, they just need to figure out a better system so these games actually last longer than a decade.
Another reason for delisting that’s arguably more egregious is when a remaster comes out, and they just delete the original so more people will buy the new thing.
About 18 months ago, there was an incident where digital copies of Chrono Cross were being removed from peoples' accounts by SQEX (I think it was Steam?) on the basis that the license had expired 30 years before the original PS1 game had released :D . Sad thing is that this is the only time either of the Chrono games have gotten an Australian release.
Additionally, the only (official) english language version of Shin Megami Tensei I was a mobile phone port that was yeeted out of existence.
Grand Theft Auto IV had a whole radio station replaced on it's 10 year anniversary due to music licenses running out
If the digital version costs the same as the physical one, it’s a scam. They should charge less. There’s no retailer cut, there’s no expense with printing and pressing…
Thanks for the free guide, digital and physical should coexist at the end of the day.
If only corpos didn't exist
@@noone12748 unfortunately.
@@noone12748then no games. It's a lose lose
Yeah
Don't forget the NES Fire Emblem game which was only digitally had the same deadline as the Mario all-star game
And that is the first time an old FE game that wasn't a remake that was once Japan exclusive got to be released and they locked it away
Piracy is now preservation.
it was shadow dragon and the blade of light, the first game in the series released on the famicom (it did have a remake on ds, which was released in europe and america btw)
The switch store feels like it's gonna crash every time I press a button
Real as hell it feels like it’s on life support powered by a Duracell battery
Remember, kids: If buying isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing.
I still remember the first time I played my PS4, and the absolute slap in the face it was that the disc just gave permission to download the game to the hard drive.
Ps4 and ps5 copy data from the disc, you even have a clip in this video at 4:28 You dont need an internet connection to do so. Ps4 blu rays hold up to 50GB, while ps5 up to 100GB. The fault is on the developers for not releasing a finished product on launch.
@@dav786its the slippery slope of what we put up with
I will forever loathe Nintendo giving up Virtual Console in favor of locking their old games on a subscription, have them drip-fed, and then wiping them off the face of the earth when the service dies, ultimately killing so many games in the process with no guarantee they'll come back.
At least you can play every Nintendo game ever made in a mid range PC, including switch. BOTW is great but even better in 4k 120 FPS, I'll never pay them a dollar again. When Iwata passed, and Miamoto stopped directly being involved, Nintendo became EA, Ubisoft, Activision. They used to be the exception to the greedy norm.
@@roachdoggjr3458 For now you can emulate Nintendo games but when Switch 2 comes out later this year you will need to buy them to play them
Switch emulation is only so good because of how easy it was to crack the whole thing and it's an android tablet from 10s specswise
I agree with the Virtual Console part. They should go back to it for the next console.
@@roachdoggjr3458That's BS and pirating new games that come complete on physical media is stupid, immoral and harmful. Nintendo is no saint but the only company sticking to those physical games.
@@napoleonfeanor they are a multi billion dollar company. I do not feel bad stealing from them and neither should you. I would steal their entire Treasury if I could and laugh to the bank, they aren't our friends they are a corporate entity and it is morally correct to steal from them
19:35 We don't have to imagine, Nintendo released Four Swords Anniversary Edition, the first Fire Emblem game fully translated, and Super Mario Bros. 35 exclusively on their digital storefronts, then removed them after a few months.
In fact, they've actaully done worse. In the mid 90s several Super Famicom games were released through the Satellaview (a peripheral that allowed Nintendo to broadcast games to the Super Famicom), multiple games were released exclusively on the Satellaview, including a remake of the first Zelda game and a visual novel sequel to Chrono Trigger. None of the Satellaview exclusive games have ever been re-released, and whilst fans have manage to dump the roms of many of these games online, a lot of these games have been preserved in an incomplete state as they contained voiceovers, cutscenes, or orchestrated music that couldn't be recovered.
Same. I knew dumping Fire Emblem Fates' third route Revelation digitally on the eShop(and the opposite game if you bought Birthright/Conquest over Conquest/Birthright) at discount isn't gonna age well, whether it's Three Houses giving you all different stories at once without spending a single penny(excluding it's Ashen Wolves DLC), or the Wii U and 3DS' eShops getting shut down.
The satellaview is kinda based. They just need to re-release them.
Europe never got Four Swords Anniversary Edition on 3DS for free or to Buy at all instead they gave us the GBC version of mario one instead. But you had to get emailed a code to fownload it which only worked for a few days instead of you know putting the game for free on E Shop for a few days instead.
@@masterseal0418 You could still technically get Fates Revelations physically, but you had to buy the limted edition release of Fates. Still pretty fucked up that the only way to get Fates Revelations legally nowadays is to buy a second-hand limited edition of a game released on hardware that's no longer supported by Nintendo.
@@wolfetteplays8894 I do kind of respect the Satellaview as it was a unique and innovative idea, but the fact Nintendo has pretty much refused to preserve any of its exclusive games is just scummy in my opinion.
Your dedication to using the DKC cartoon as a core part of your channel's theme is my favorite thing.
I can't explain why, it's just fucking hilarious to me, keep it up homie.
Tbh a DRM-free exe on my PC is just as good as a cartridge or disc, even better infact because it can be replicated for extra safety.
The only issue we have is that exe files might not be compatible wirh future version of windows. But maybe a virtual machine running windows using a Linux machine might solve the issue.
a while ago I started going to thrift stores and amassing a sizeable DVD collection. Its so much better because you're you'll find things on DVD that have been completely forgotten, hidden gems that you would NEVER find on streaming services because nobody has heard of them. Another reason you should buy physical media is because streaming services cannot be trusted. They can't garuntee that they'll have anything because the rights are always changing. Around Christmas time my family was trying to watch "a charlie brown Christmas", that classic Christmas special from 60 years ago? It is not on any streaming service except apple TV. We are not going to buy a new TV just to watch Charlie Brown. We walk into Walmart a day later and we find the charlie brown holiday specials on DVD PLUS bonus episodes for 20 dollars. Streaming services are the devil that we were forced to make a deal with in 2020
Something I never see people bring up is how important piracy is for preservation. There are _so many_ Switch games that are now ONLY obtainable through less-than-legal sources; if it weren't for them, they would literally be lost forever. If a game is a digital-only console exclusive, if they delist it there is no legal way to preserve it outside of keeping it on your system (and even then it might stop working). PT is a big victim of this since it can't be ripped yet from the few PS4s that have it and put onto others.
This is also a major issue with DLC and patches/updates, since unless a GOTYE or reprint comes out, those won't be on what little physical media still exists. Consider how many games ship these days that are literally fixed _after_ the consumer gets them; if they're delisted, even with a physical copy you won't be able to properly experience it.
Valid. A lot of remakes and remasters often have content changed due to licensing or other issues. For example, The backgrounds of Junk Man's stage from Mega Man 7 were changed in the Legacy Collection to remove the images of the Famicoms being scrapped and I've heard complaints of recent Sonic 3 remakes having different OSTs, presumably due to licensing issues with the Michael Jackson estate. Conker's Bad Fur Day on XBox censors bad language whereas the N64 doesn't.
And then there are games that are changed to "improve" them. Some of the censorship that gave the earlier Final Fantasy games its character were uncensored in later translations ("I, Garland, will knock you all down!"), the Tiamat glitch being fixed in Final Fantasy Collection 1-6). Some companies (Atlus) tend to remake their games with story elements that often undermine the story and themes from the original (I still think vanilla Persona 4 is better than Golden, and I have no idea what the definitive version of Persona 3 would be)
"if they're delisted, even with a physical copy you won't be able to properly experience it"
Driveclub moment. If you ever wanted those sweet 100% achievement scores, you should've bought it when it was still on the store page.
No such luck now.
@@TheBlackSeraph Conker’s Bad Fur Day (the original N64 game) IS censored. The Xbox remake (Live and Reloaded) is the uncensored one.
Glad people are speaking out about the importance of physical media. Unfortunately it really does feel like physical media could die completely, but people should be way more upset about that than they are (which for most seems to be not at all)
People have been saying stuff like this FOR YEARS!!!!
I mean, I see this as no different than when TV came out and everyone thought radio was going to die. Now? Trad radio(I’m a media buyer btw) prob gonna outlive cable tv boxes and the ground lines where I live at least, have been cut for over a decade.
Things change, deal with it.
Of course they’re not upset. There are only so many things people have the capacity to be actively upset about and willing to change. Sorry, but politics and the environment and education among others have priority right now. I keep seeing people complain that no one cares about their Cause when really, everyone cares about something and is afraid no one else cares. So yeah keep speaking about it, but stop acting like everyone and their mother has time to prioritize your specific issue de jour.
You are entirely capable of taking that digital media and making it physical by downloading it on your hard drive or burning it on a CD. Physical media will exist for as long as you're made of matter. You can always turn the digital waste you find into physical media yourself. Stop complaining and start doing.
its the tigers eating faces party all over
In a similar vein, Ross Scott, the Freeman's Mind guy, has a video on games as a service. It's been a hot minute since I've watched it but basically he goes over the issues of games that rely on a temporary online service that the publisher can kill on a whim, with no way to save the game. I think recently he's been trying to gather the resources to start a class action lawsuit against Ubisoft to keep them from obliterating one of their online racing games, The Crew, and hopefully try to get a legal foothold for others to do the same with more games.
Came here to post the same thing! I'm hopeful Ross's efforts could be the start of something significant here.
Ross is awesome for that. He's a diehard of media preservation and that is frankly quite admirable in a day and age of increasing apathy about what may seem like a frivolous issue to most, but holds dire implications for media in general, and how it is sold/managed. It's not only video games, but even down to books, movies, physical and digital art, etc. If there is no effort to see it preserved, then we run the risk of future generations never being able to enjoy it. And that is no good.
@@viscountrainbows2857 100%. Just the concept of media ownership is at risk unless things change. It's a terrifying thought. I do a lot of work with younger teens. It's scary when I explain that they need to buy an app for $5 and they're surprised to hear that it's a one time purchase instead of a monthly subscription.
Ubisoft did this with a game called "Spartacus legends". It was an online game that was also entirely playable on your own in single player but they shut the servers down and now you can't access the game at all
One reson I think companies want to phase out physical disks that isnt talked about a lot, is that the largest currently produced Blurays are quad layer BD-XLs at 128GB in size, which are only manufactured by Sony (this would be an especially big problem for microsoft as that would mean either every game sale benifits sony, or their disks be limited to tripple layer sub-100GB disks if they go with another manufacturer). With the ballooning filesizes of games, we would either have to go back to multi disk games or money would have to be invested in making the games smaller or the disk capacity larger. Unfortunately just not bothering with disks is by far the cheapest option in this regard
If purchase is not ownership, piracy is not theft.
If they’re comfortable telling you what they’re taking from you, feel confident and comfortable taking it back.
I’m with you on this, but what you're saying doesn’t add up. When you first launch a game, you have to agree to their terms of service. It’s all laid out, and by accepting those terms, you’re agreeing to them. So yeah, it’s still piracy.
26:13 This is the reason why multiplayer games has become much less social. Experienced players will prefer to communicate via Discord rather than risk their own accounts on the official chats.
Many people miss the 2008 CoD days where they can say whatever they want. Now, a simple swear on the voice chat can be autodetected by AI, and possibly ban your account.
Not just that, but playstation voice is direct-connect . Unless you have a VPN running on your router, a malicious actor can find your physical location. SWATting has been done this way.
Yes it’s so awful people can’t spew vitriol and hate speech 😂 be real dude, like seriously?
@@PutYourQuarterUpGaming "stfu" isn't hate speech
@@PutYourQuarterUpGamingIf you hate trash-talking, then turn off hearing microphones. You can’t complain when you have the options to avoid it.
@@PutYourQuarterUpGaming People miss being free.
I made MP3s of your entire channel. I listen in the car on loop. Autism is power! Thanks for another MP3 ❤️❤️
I do that too for a lot of videos. Also some great documentaries I download as mp4 and save them on my pc
This is why I still collect physical game, movies games etc. me and my dad go to garage sales all the time and people give away boxes upon boxes of DVD’s and cd’s, even occasionally blue rays and games. If you wanna make sure something you like will be with you forever, make sure it can’t be destroyed by corpos. Like do I *need* a full original box set of Star Wars galaxies? No but for 1 dollar I’ll take it
I understand the sentiment, but sadly they won't last, the real tried and true method of keeping your stuff is by sailing the seven seas
@@noone12748 oh believe me I do that too as my fav youtubers stuff can become lost media unless I save it, also a lot of good people have mirrored my fav ytbers stuff on a place that rhymes with blarkarchive . Blorg.
Yeah I mainly do it for stuff I care about like i have bladerunner on Blu-ray.
@@noone12748 Bad logic. Piracy relies on people uploading physical media to the internet. Once physical media goes away, people will have to settle for pirating films that have somehow been downloaded off of a streaming service (likely in very low quality too).
@@account-now-closed This media isn't physical anymore, not these days, most of it is digital only, and quality isn't gonna go down, if anything, there are more high quality versions of movies than there are bad
as someone who prefers to buy physical CDs of music, it’s very frustrating and even scary to know that any of my digital music purchases could be taken at any time. my biggest fear is that if any of the music I’ve purchased digitally gets taken off of the service I’ve purchased it from, the only way I can keep it is if I keep a download of it, otherwise it’s no longer “mine”. add to this that certain music purchasing platforms (such as iTunes) have some songs that are REALLY hard to transfer to other devices for some reason (for example I had a Fall Out Boy EP where for some reason one specific song WOULD NOT transfer to a USB no matter how hard I tried.)
A win for physical: Alan Wake 2 is having a physical release later this year!
This is why I keep a list of any digital game I own. If anything on that list is removed, I immediately pirate a copy.
I do the same thing, though I try to buy a physical copy later if applicable.
Same!
@JayboCorp.2014 Same!
Thats a smart thing to do.
I should do the same...
THE MUSH IS BACK
Ghosts chomping at his feet
@@darodus mushs our hero
@@MolternKMush just can’t be beat YEEEEAH!
Return of the king
@@darodusPEAK!
Yeah allowing complete control to a single store per system is a bad idea for so many reasons.
Digital also tends to be more expensive these days, at least with new games. And you can't resell if you ever needed to get back some of your cash.
I don't understand how people can prefer it when it's pretty much all negative for the consumer.
Great video, glad somebody made a video about this.
Downloading 100+ gb games with rural Internet is a nightmare
I'm so glad you played clips of Final Space. I was a fan of it when it was removed and the creator posted a video about how pretty much the greatest project he's ever worked on was just axed as a tax write-off was genuinely heartbreaking. Imagine working day and night on a project you didn't imagine would be taken so far, then watching someone who you've probably never even met just delete it from all legal streaming platforms. It's truly demotivating and heartbreaking and I'm so glad he was able to fight tooth and nail into getting some sort of happy ending out of such a demoralizing mess.
Not a video game but when Oppenheimer released on blu ray it was sold out for a few weeks. The whole "nobody buys physical anymore" is a complete lie.
If purchasing isn't owning, then piracy isn't stealing
Great Video, I was a Walmart Electronics employee for a couple years, at 6:45 games will be often priced for 3 cents when employees are supposed to take them off the shelf and take them to claims. This doesn't happen often, and when it does happen its usually with PC physical games or unpopular console games. However, the games can still be bought at that price so my theory on why that happened is that someone on upper management priced starfield so they could buy starfield for 3 cents rather than $70.
You know, what's funny is if there was a big enough lawsuit over these companies taking away your purchased digital content it would set a precedent as to what you own and don't own.
'This software is licensed, not sold' is not what these companies want you to think it means. "this software" refers to the software intellectual property and not the copy you bought off PSN, eshop, Amazon, etc. So I wouldn't own the intellectual property of the thing I bought, but I own that particular instance of that thing. It's no different than if I bought a t-shirt or toy of Super Mario.
Just remember this: Your purchased digital content is a good, not a service.
6:20 Is so funny to me because even before name soundalikes became super popular for comedy recently, I used to joke about the soundalike between "Clearance"(as in the retail section) and "Clarence"(as in the cartoon) all the time to myself
"Even Sony's movies are having their price drops limited." I appreciate that one.
I think I stopped trusting companies with online stores the moment Rovio delisted almost every single Angry Birds game off the App Store
*I'm glad I downloaded the game to my phone before they delisted it.*
As a literal fetus zoomer growing up with purely physical games on the ps3 and Wii, the angry birds thing was my first exposure to a mass-purge on games, and i'm pretty sure it was the tiny spark that got me into only downloading indie games from there on, and wanting the devs to have an actual face and interaction with the community. For example Postal 2 is hot garbage for some people but Vince Desi and his team still reply to almost every single complaint.
Glad I own the trilogy on wii u. Never thought I’d say it… but I still have angry birds.
We need laws that smack down the industry. If you own a game in one form, you should be entitled to all digital re-releases of that game for life. If you own a compilation game (the Zelda 4-game collector's disc, Mega Man Legacy Collection) you should be entitled to free downloads of all versions of all games on that disc/cartridge, for life.
Furthermore, all digital downloads from all storefronts should be required to be able to be traded or sold to anyone, with no more than a 1% transaction fee going to the compay for processing the transfer (with the exclusion of games obtained for free through the "I own a previous version" above.)
But how could the poor executives be able to afford their union busters?
@@teal_m_101 Well, once you start following Putin’s lead and a few executives take some one-way flights through some windows, the rest will fall in line and there will be no more union busting.
Amen
As a media preservationist, all this digital-only stuff is an absolute nightmare.
all the damage done by eliminating the scarcity of shelf space, and they think i will buy a console without a disc drive.
physical sales numbers will always be skewed as long as physical releases largely don't happen and aren't available at all. digital sales will outpace physical every time physical isn't an option. the last pc game i found in a store to buy on DVD was return to wolfenstein, in 2001.
WALMART IS ONLY NO LONGER STOCKING PHYSICAL XBOX GAMES YET HEADLINES MISINTERPRETED IT AS "they’ll stop carrying physical games entirely" WHEN THEY STILL CARRY PHYSICAL PLAYSTATION AND NINTENDO TITLES
ALSO NUMBERS ON PHYSICAL MEDIA SALES RECENTLY JUMPED BACK UP AFTER COVID, SO BEST BUY MADE A STUPID MISTAKE
I've seen some physical copies at walmart, but they're locked behind a glass case.
for now, it's a slippery slope until your mic picks up one swear and you lose all the games you ever purchased.
@@CHECKthisvid
And if you check the numbers today, they went down again, so no, Best Buy didn’t make a mistake, lol.
Yar-har-fiddle-dee-dee
Being a pirate is all right to be!
Do what you want 'cause a pirate is free
You are a pirate!
Lyin', lootin', stealin' is the reason we are pirates!
Ransackin', pillagin', don't knock it 'til you try it!
Plunderin' and pilferin' make up a healthy diet,
Arr, look at us! We're doin' the Booty Boogie~
Arr, when I was a young lad, my father said to me
""Arr, lend an ear and learn some pirate history!
Once a fearsome pirate ruled the seven seas
He was your great-great-great-grand-pappy, Quint Skurvy!""
He told me tall tales of his ill-begotten gains
But the greatest treasure of them all still haunts me to this day!
I'll make you swab the deck and then I'll throw you in the brig!
I swear I'll make you walk the plank to right the wrong you did!
The day you mess with Skurvy, arr, you'll wish you were never born!
When the coconut is mine, then you'll feel this pirate's scorn!
He hid it in an idol where it stayed for many years
But the eye of Inka Dinka Doo did shed the crystal tear!
It laid upon the ground until, much to my surprise
A stupid ape just wandered by and snatched my treasured prize!
He discovered it possessed extraordinary power
And stealing it from Skurvy would be his darkest hour!
I'll make you swab the deck and then I'll throw you in the brig!
I swear I'll make you walk the plank to right the wrong you did!
The day you mess with Skurvy, arr, you'll wish you were never born!
When the coconut is mine, then you'll feel this pirate's scorn!
When the coconut is mine, then you'll feel this pirate's scorn!
Alot of people forget that everything is hosted on a server and they can and will eventually shut down. Doesn't matter if it's a game or a service.
Great vid as always
2 terabytes of space fills up pretty quickly when you remember a fat chunk games can be up to and above 300 gigs. Plus, recall a fat chunk of that space is taken up by the OS and any updates needed to run the console.
3:16 WARNING DOBSON JUMPSCARE!
I’m with you mush, I started collecting Movies and other physical media, and it feels good to just pull out a movie or game and watch/play it.
Plus physical copies of movies are nice little time capsules with the previews.
@@BlazingKhioneus yup, always a good feeling to see previews for old movies.
@@BlazingKhioneus The Previews bring a lot of Nostalgia.
This licensing nonsense needs to go. If you pay for a copy, you own that copy. Pulling your access is clawing back the sale and should come with a mandatory refund.
If you don’t like the terms of service, just don’t agree to them. You’re literally reading it and clicking "agree," giving them permission. It’s not like you need Call of Duty to survive-it’s a want, not a need. If you don’t like their terms, don’t use their product. lol
>I can't play the digital game because it's been delisted
In the age of digital media people need to get more comfortable with piracy. If the company doesn't want to take your money that's on them; buy it if it ever goes back on sale if you feel bad about it.
Agreed. There are a few games that I have pirated simply because i have no way to play them legally, and I know for a fact that if I ever could play them legally, I would literally throw my money at the publishers.
There really needs to be laws around digital ownership to where they cant just take away stuff you pay for. I love physical media and also collect. I hate the thought of a digital future even if we did own them but the fact we dont that is insane. We should have options
Thank you for compiling this video for people to see. I have bought a few things digitally before, and I’ve always felt dirty when doing it, I knew companies were scummy but I never knew it went that deep. Suffice to say I will never purchase anything digital again if I can help it.
Another reason to buy physical copies of movies, games, etc.: it feels nice to hold a cool looking disk/cartridge in your hands. Plus the boxes have pretty pictures on them :)
It’s interesting with the companies taking games from people’s accounts because on one hand you have The Day Before, which was refunded from all Steam accounts that happened to buy it because it was The Day Before
But then you have stuff like this, there was this one TMNT game that got accidentally relisted and delisted on Steam within the same day and to the people that bought it on that day, it got refunded from their accounts
Physical MUST STAY! I mean physical media is on the uprise in popularity in all other forms of media, idk why the video game scene can’t see they need this as well.
The Donkey Kong Legend of the Crystal Coconut references are part of why I love you, Mush.
TH-camrs ruined game collecting during covid. They told kids how cool it was to own old versions of Pokemon and now you can't get anything for less than $100 unless it's a repro cart. Random N64 games fetch high prices too because the wrong dude told little Billy that owning this cartridge for a console he didn't own was poggers. Because of this, thrift stores don't even put games on the shelves now, they look up eBay prices and keep the good ones for themselves.
Considering the fact that Funimation shut down without giving people refunds, I say that piracy is morally right.
Great video. I like my digital games on steam like the next guy, but I buy physical games whenever and wherever possible. Having them on a shelf and being able to pop them it whenever you like is one of those little perks that's never gone away no matter how much games and the industry changes. Glad to see other physical warriors out there o7
I wish I could buy all my things physical, but companies make it so difficult. I remember trying to look for The Lion Guard TV show on DVD, only to realize they didn't release it aside from a few episodes.
That's not even mentioning trying to find some of my favorite games like Yu-Gi-Oh Zexal World Duel Carnival, which wasn't released in North America and can't be downloaded thanks to eStore closing. I bought a copy of that game as a kid, but Nintendo wouldn't let me download it again after my old 2DS broke so now it's impossible to get.
Andrew?
@@beckjanssens6504 what???
@@Doub1eSpark let me put it this way... Post production?
remember that us gamers have the high seas to travel to get those old games. *Cough* Vimm *Cough*
A lot of shows meant for younger kids get the same “select episodes” on DVD treatment for whatever reason. At least streaming services keep them in circulation (either officially or otherwise) instead of having to hunt down VHS recording from 15 years ago.
Just imagine if demo discs were still around when P.T came out
Physical isn't what it used to be either. The majority of physical Xbox & Play Station games now require hearty downloads & updates to even be playable past the tutorial sections (if you can even launch it at all from a physical disc & no internet). There are numerous Switch games like this as well sadly. Heck, some games for the PS5 will use the disc to try to do a 80+gb download, instead of copying the 80gb from the disc & downloading a 10gb of so update file (need to insert the disc with the console offline, copy the disc, connect & update)
The GameCube and similar earlier generation consoles had final copies of the games on the disc, at worst they fixed bugs on newer pressings of the media. They were not designed with internet connectivity in mind, so they were self contained and comolete. Those days are over.
That's not even mentioning disc rot or problems with cartridges or flash media. It's a no win situation in a lot of ways.
Crying yourself to sleep after Valentine's becomes pretty familiar, but waking up to a new MM video gives me the hope I need.
If there is no object, you will never own what you buy. An unscrupulous corporation can remove your access at will, and they can edit and omit as they choose to alter history to line up with contemporary tastes.
Nice story
What about DRM-free games, like the ones GOG. You can technically back those games onto a CD or external hard-drive for long-term storage.
its fucked up how big companies want to shut down physical media yet the consoles they provide literally dont have the capacity to store more than a couple of games and there is absolutely no alternative
I'm definitely starting a movie DVD collection
If you buy them used they can be ridiculously cheap.
So glad hard drive prices have dropped so much lately. I have copies of my entire Spotify library, every show I’ve watched and enjoyed on any streaming service, online courses, movies, TH-cam videos, games, and anything else I think I may want in the future that could get deleted. Thank you Seagate 🙏
If you ever feel like you own anything digital just know that Ubisoft removed Assasins Creed Liberation from everyone’s Steam library so they could sell it back to them as part of the assasins creed collection. Same with all the classic Sonic games
R* did the same thing with gta a few years back as well. I'm just waiting to see if Take2 is willing to send a few more hired goons out to player's doorsteps whenever they are caught torrenting a copy of gta6
2:20 YES! SOMEONE FINALLY SAID IT! That been my biggest gripe with this sht. Even more than the drm and other garbage. I just ain't got the hard drive space for these big ahh 89 Billion GB headahh games! Miss me wit that!
I bought a 500GB PS4 because I don't do digital at all, and having the lowest HDD PS3 space was never an issue. But since almost every PS4 game takes up 10% of my HDD space I was constantly having to waste time deleting game data with every new game. I eventually caved and bought a 1TB system.
let us never forget how the original skullgirls was completely pulled and any old version specific releases were just straight up disabled to being played at all, and the fan base was forced to move over to the completely censored and “pc” version.
mfs who have 30 minutes in a fighting game when Skullgirls removes Nazi imagery and sexual depictions of minors
@@henrynelson9301 the triggering and sexual imagery was the entire point of the game.
regardless, i don’t care about the contents. i care about permanent censorship without the actual consent of the original creator, and the entire fallout and subsequent community shift afterward.
@@henrynelson9301 Mfs who equate fake imagery in videogames to being a real life crime
I can slightly understand why physical PC games died out, but I cannot justify physical console games dying out.
Thank you sincerely for making this
Watching this for the first time, and worth noting that on the day I'm watching this, California just passed a law saying that companies cannot claim consumers bought or owner digital purchases.
While it's a very small step, it's at least a step toward physical still having a place.
as a brazilian with now two laptops that are almost 10 years old, a ps2 and a now 3 years old phone, that never had any *original* physical game, this video was pretty cool to watch, and as someone who couldn't purchase almost half the games I like digitally (some not even physically) even if I had enough money for that, because they're not available at any store anymore